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How Do Geeks Exercise?

An anonymous reader writes "I have always been thin but all the sitting in front of the PC is taking its toll now that I'm getting older. I have begun to get a little heavier around the waist. I don't eat a lot but the weight seems to stay on these days. Most of the time I don't have the luxury of just getting out of the house/office. And being an introvert, I'm not enamored of the idea of exercising in full view of *shudder* people. I regularly do press-ups (60 per night) and sit-ups (30 per night) and some fetching and carrying, but that is all and these days it isn't enough. I need a solid and effective routine that will tone all my muscle groups efficiently. Do any Slashdotters have a regular workout routine that can be performed in the privacy of the home to stave off those pounds?"

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  1. Bike to work by evw · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Bike to work. (Make living close enough to bike a priority.)

    1. Re:Bike to work by letxa2000 · · Score: 5, Informative

      Agreed. I bike 30 miles every other day and that was enough, along with a sensible diet, to get me from a peak of 180 pounds down to a more healthy 155. Now I'm steady at 155 but can still eat more than I normally could without the exercise. Plus it's good for the heart.

      Maintaining weight is a matter of how many calories you consume and how many your burn. Weight training will build muscle but doesn't burn a lot of calories. Things like running, swimming, and biking are the kinds of things that burn calories.

      I'm sorry you're an introvert. Make time for your health and enjoy the great outdoors. You can always get a stationary bike but, having one of those that I use in the winter, I can assure you that a real bike out in the real world is MUCH more rewarding and it will help you relax mentally as well as keep you in shape physically.

    2. Re:Bike to work by g-to-the-o-to-the-g · · Score: 2, Funny

      I second that. And also check out Rippetoe's program. It requires a bit of equipment (barbell + weights), but it's probably the best full body exercise you can do. I cycle to work every day and it's fun, relaxing, and makes you better than everyone else.

    3. Re:Bike to work by JakeD409 · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Bike to work. (Make living close enough to bike a priority.)

      I want to start doing, but I work in an office where they'd care if I came to work sweaty and stinky. What's the solution to this?

    4. Re:Bike to work by GWBasic · · Score: 1

      Bike to work. (Make living close enough to bike a priority.)

      I strongly considered moving closer to work for that specific reason... But then I realized that the residential areas near big tech companies tend to have NO girls.

    5. Re:Bike to work by NickHydroxide · · Score: 4, Informative

      Weight training will build muscle but doesn't burn a lot of calories. Things like running, swimming, and biking are the kinds of things that burn calories.

      You'd be surprised. Not only does resistance training burn kilojoules at a sufficient rate to lose weight (depending on your eating habits), but also the increase in metabolism (due to increased muscle mass) means that your BMR will be higher than if you only engaged in aerobic training. In other words, you'll burn more kilojoules at rest.

    6. Re:Bike to work by pluther · · Score: 5, Funny

      Just bike home from work, instead?

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    7. Re:Bike to work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Agreed. And it doesn't have to be that far. My round trip commute is only about 7 1/2 miles, and while it's not the only thing I do for exercise, I do feel that it has a significant role in keeping me in shape. And I feel much better overall when I bike to work vs. the rare times that I drive.

      Don't live that close to work? Get a new job, or a new place to live. Being able to commute by bike is one of the top reasons that's keeping me at my current job.

    8. Re:Bike to work by Mr.+Underbridge · · Score: 1

      Same here. A little over 6 miles each way for me, and I treat it like a workout so I average about 20mph when I'm really pushing it. Since I started doing that, I've had to change my diet to "eat whatever I want whenever I want" just to keep my weight *up*. Quite a change from 5 years ago when I decided to go on a diet because I was 30 pounds overweight and none of my clothes fit.

    9. Re:Bike to work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      and makes you better than everyone else.

      I laughed at this, but why do some cyclists have that attitude? I'm talking about the type who scream at motorists to "share the road" because "bikes have the same rights as motor vehicles," and then proceed to run the next four red lights.

      /rant

    10. Re:Bike to work by mrsquid0 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Make a point of walking any distance under a mile. Swim for half an hour twice a week. Learn tai chi. Play tag with your kids.

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    11. Re:Bike to work by silverkniveshotmail. · · Score: 1

      Bike to work. (Make living close enough to bike a priority.)

      I want to start doing, but I work in an office where they'd care if I came to work sweaty and stinky. What's the solution to this?

      Take the bus to work and bike back.

    12. Re:Bike to work by $random_var · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I bike halfway to work - in California we have these "park and ride" lots, where you can drive to a transportation hub and catch public transit the rest of the way. My long commute and lack of bike trails near home make biking all the way to work impractical, but there's a beautiful bike trail along the 56 freeway that I can take once I get to the park and ride lot.

      Other than that, I stretch, do crunches, and do pushups every morning when I wake up. This is not only stay-in-shape exercise, it's also wake-me-up exercise - double benefits! On the weekents, I ride my bike to In N Out - the benefits may cancel out with the calories, but at least I'm getting exercise. :-)

      To speak to your specific questions, you may want to consider pilates in the home. That gives you a pretty full body workout. You can get private pilates lessons (about $40/hour around here) to help you build a routine, and then go from there exercising at home. I tried that, but frankly I didn't like putting in half an hour to an hour per day.

    13. Re:Bike to work by lazybeam · · Score: 3, Informative

      Get them to install a shower and be 10 minutes early. My work has a full bathroom for this, and they even supply a personal trainer once a week!

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    14. Re:Bike to work by Colonel+Korn · · Score: 0, Troll

      In other words, you'll burn more kilojoules at rest.

      This is a myth that's been going around for quite some time. A more heavily muscled person doesn't burn any more calories at rest. The person can burn more calories while exercising due to the ability to lift/carry/etc against more resistance, thus using more energy, but there's absolutely no basis for claiming that a well muscled person burns more calories when sitting on the couch.

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    15. Re:Bike to work by letxa2000 · · Score: 5, Informative

      A good mix is obviously best. But if he wants to burn calories, I stand by my assertion that traditional exercises such as running, swimming, and cycling are more efficient at burning calories than weight training unless you're doing some ungodly effort on the weight training.

      As an example, this link suggest that at 155 pounds and 60 minutes, I'd burn about 744 calories per hour cycling at 14-15.9mph. Meanwhile, general weightlifting comes in at 223 calories and vigorous weightlifting comes in at 446 calories. And it's a lot more reasonable for most people to do an hour on a bike than a constant productive hour of weight training.

      If he wants to lose weight, he should do these kinds of activities (biking, running, etc.). If he is looking for muscle mass then obviously weight training is an obvious choice. And if he wants both, well, he's going to have to do both.

    16. Re:Bike to work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      If you're working at home like I do, buy a treadmill. I have an additional 24-inch display attached to my laptop and they're setting on a table I place on the treadmill. Walking at 2-2.5 mph you can get a lot of miles in during the day and it doesn't inhibit my production. I think it qualifies me as super-geek, but ya gotta do what ya gotta do when faced with sitting on yer *ss all day

    17. Re:Bike to work by momerath2003 · · Score: 1, Offtopic

      This is a myth that's been going around for quite some time. A more heavily muscled person doesn't burn any more calories at rest. The person can burn more calories while exercising due to the ability to lift/carry/etc against more resistance, thus using more energy, but there's absolutely no basis for claiming that a well muscled person burns more calories when sitting on the couch.

      [citation needed]

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    18. Re:Bike to work by Mr.+Freeman · · Score: 1

      Where do you live that you can bike to work without nearly getting run over on a constant basis?

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    19. Re:Bike to work by beaverbrother · · Score: 1
      Do people just not sweat or something?

      I would never be able to bike to work and not offend people.

      Is there a secret trick?

    20. Re:Bike to work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Tell me about it. 1200-1280 calories a day, for almost 8 years, an hour walk every morning and 2 hours cyclic + circuit work 5 nights a week, and I have all the strength in the world underneath this flab. I also have fat rolls hanging off my arms and thighs, my stomach hangs down so much I haven't seen my own crotch in years unless I'm looking in the mirror, and I have two extra chins. 380lbs is the lowest I've been since the 1990s. Some of us keep up a decent amount of muscle and a hell of a lot of fat on minimal energy intake.

    21. Re:Bike to work by Mr.+Freeman · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Yes, because finding a new job and home is such an easy thing to do.

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    22. Re:Bike to work by $random_var · · Score: 1

      Perhaps you work for the wrong tech companies :-) Try San Diego!

    23. Re:Bike to work by Flapjack · · Score: 5, Insightful

      That's simply not true. Muscle mass burns calories all day long while aerobics only burns while you perform that particular exercise. Metabolic rate is increased around 11hrs post-resistance training & only 1 hr aerobically. You really need to do both to be fit though, as well as the 3rd piece of the puzzle - flexibility.

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    24. Re:Bike to work by R3d+M3rcury · · Score: 1

      Have your sweat glands blocked?

      Seriously, a quick answer is to look around for showers. If there are gyms local to your office, sign up for their cheapest rate and just use the shower.

    25. Re:Bike to work by arth1 · · Score: 0

      How do you bike to work in the privacy of your own home ?
      Work from home and bike from the living room to the office?

      Seriously, though, why exercise? It's not like you're going to live forever anyhow, and if you subtract the time spent exercising or recovering, it's not like you'll live noticeably longer anyhow. Exercise for 2 hours a day, plus another hour preparing/recovering, and you spend an eighth of your life. If you live ten years longer by doing that, you'll still be behind the game, having lost more time than what you make up for.
      Cut down on the calorie intake, and make sure you move your muscles enough to avoid atrophy. That's really all you need, no matter what the jocks try to tell you.

    26. Re:Bike to work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ITYM "secrete trick".

    27. Re:Bike to work by mazarin5 · · Score: 1

      Agreed. Bike everywhere you need to go within a few miles from your house. Also, running in the park (usually people are few and far between). Boxing or martial arts may not be his style, but weightlifting at home may be well suited for him. Lastly; you're a geek, right? Why haven't you picked up a book on fitness training (specifically, one meant for fitness trainers)?

      I do all of the above, and have had great success.

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    28. Re:Bike to work by g-to-the-o-to-the-g · · Score: 1

      Where do you live that you can bike to work without nearly getting run over on a constant basis?

      People love to use this excuse. I bet if someone looked up the statistics, you'd find you're more likely to get hit by a car when you're in one rather than on a bicycle.

    29. Re:Bike to work by celebere · · Score: 1

      I bike to work in Atlanta, 10 miles each way. I'm not going to say that it's the safest activity, but it is certainly possible if you live close enough. If you can find alternate routes through neighborhoods and the like, it makes things much easier.

    30. Re:Bike to work by Thaddeaus · · Score: 2, Funny

      Change of clothes and a whore's bath at work.

    31. Re:Bike to work by Dewin · · Score: 1

      Do people just not sweat or something?

      I would never be able to bike to work and not offend people.

      Is there a secret trick?

      Disclaimer: I don't bike (but I want to.)

      From what I've heard, it's not the sweat itself that stinks but something like the waste products from the bacteria that 'eat' the sweat. So you bike to work, hit a bathroom, and towel yourself off and change into work clothes, and nobody will be able to tell... supposedly.

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    32. Re:Bike to work by u.hertlein · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I'm sorry you're an introvert.

      Don't be sorry for us (you insensitive clod!)

      It's not like it's a disease, bad in anyway, or meaning that one does not enjoy being outside.
      It's probably different for everyone - for me it means that I don't like being in crowds and
      am more likely to relax being alone or with (a few) close friends.

      But I digress.

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    33. Re:Bike to work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Screw biking its overrated and you have to find a place to put that silly thing when you get somewhere.

      I do a hard walk to and from work 3 miles each way, 5 days a week, 8 years. Not only do you get the work out it helps with your posture, social skills and a list of other things.

      Besides its what humans were designed to do for a long time.

    34. Re:Bike to work by Malevolyn · · Score: 1

      Another easy one: cut 500 calories per day. That's a measly 250 calories from food, and 30 minutes of aerobic exercise (like biking to work, jogging, DDR, etc). That nets you one pound of fat lost per week. It's not a lot, but it's the easiest, most effective method and it can be expanded upon to lose weight more quickly (ie, 500 calories off of food and one hour of aerobics = 2lbs/week).

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    35. Re:Bike to work by SpcCowboy · · Score: 1

      This is a myth that's been going around for quite some time. A more heavily muscled person doesn't burn any more calories at rest. The person can burn more calories while exercising due to the ability to lift/carry/etc against more resistance, thus using more energy, but there's absolutely no basis for claiming that a well muscled person burns more calories when sitting on the couch.

      I don't know where your info came from, but your BMR is most definitely impacted by the amount of lean muscle mass. Cells require energy to maintain, even when you're just sitting on the couch. The bigger the cell, the more energy required. It's basic physiology.

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    36. Re:Bike to work by mikenap · · Score: 2, Informative

      Actually, muscle burns more calories than fat at rest...but both burn so little that they're completely insignificant. So the "myth" is technically true, but utterly insignificant.

      On the other hand, GP was trying to say was that weight training is an effective way to loose weight. Many prefer it to pure cardio. Either one can work, so just find one that suits you best.

      I'm tired and can't think of the data for metabolic rate after exercise for weight training vs pure cardio, but many methods of exercise do raise your metabolism for some time after the exercise. You just have to exercise in the first place. ;) If you're in the pure cardio camp, interval training can really raise your metabolism for the rest of the day.

    37. Re:Bike to work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Poor you, wasting fuel in your car being a lazy bitch and getting fatter by the month.

    38. Re:Bike to work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just avoid the Critical Mass

    39. Re:Bike to work by thedullroar · · Score: 5, Informative

      Counter citation: "Body size and composition. To function properly, a bigger body mass requires more energy (more calories) than does a smaller body mass. Also, muscle burns more calories than fat does. So the more muscle you have in relation to fat, the higher your basal metabolic rate." From http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/metabolism/WT00006

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    40. Re:Bike to work by Hamster+Of+Death · · Score: 0

      It's not all about quantity of life, it's also the quality.

    41. Re:Bike to work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why haven't you picked up a book on fitness training

      .

      Those books are damned heavy, and I'm too unfit. Ebooks on the treadmill FTW!

      On a side note I did try taking an O'Reilly book to the john once, but ended up as the target of a /. scat troll. Worst day ever.

    42. Re:Bike to work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Have you considered selling your body to science? I mean by studying the way you can spend 3000 to 4000 calories while eating only 1200 calories could lead to a perpetual machine or something!

    43. Re:Bike to work by GeffDE · · Score: 5, Funny

      Unpossible, AC Troll! Your lies are laid bare.

      The minimum caloric needs of your 380 lb corpulence are ~2700 calories/day. Any less than that and your body starts raiding your fat rolls like your raid bakery rolls.

      You are full of shit; that may explain your obesity.

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    44. Re:Bike to work by Roger+W+Moore · · Score: 1

      Bike to work. (Make living close enough to bike a priority.)

      I want to start doing, but I work in an office where they'd care if I came to work sweaty and stinky. What's the solution to this?

      Make living somewhere cold enough that you don't get hot and sticky a priority. Northern Alberta is really good.

    45. Re:Bike to work by magarity · · Score: 1

      The submitter wants an exercise in the home and as far as biking in the home goes, stationary bikes are really lousy in terms of comfort and overall workout, IMO. Elliptical machines, however, are a pretty good workout. A good one is about 600$ or so and can be found at Sears or similar. This satisfies 1. done at home and 2. good exercise and even 3. you can watch SciFi channel at the same time.

    46. Re:Bike to work by 19thNervousBreakdown · · Score: 1

      Yeah, there's no fucking way. I mean, there's variances, but what you've described isn't even close to possible.

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    47. Re:Bike to work by KillerBob · · Score: 1

      I want to start doing, but I work in an office where they'd care if I came to work sweaty and stinky. What's the solution to this?

      Take a shower? If there isn't one in your building, there's probably one in a gym that isn't too far from your building. I'm lucky, in that there's 2 showers on the ground floor where I work, but in the past I've had to get a membership at the YMCA or some other gym not too far from work. Not usually a problem in the city... that said, something aerobic at said gym is also good for weight loss... half an hour on a treadmill, elliptical, or exercise bike a day can go a very long way.

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    48. Re:Bike to work by Hadlock · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Shower before work and put on clean clothes before you leave. The clothes are (for your purposes anyways) sterile, as is your body. Just like you can't make a green oasis of a field from parched desert from an hour's rain, you can't stink from an hour's exercise right out of the shower. I'd recommend a shower after biking home from work however!

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    49. Re:Bike to work by magarity · · Score: 2, Funny

      you'd find you're more likely to get hit by a car when you're in one rather than on a bicycle
       
      Not in Beijing.

    50. Re:Bike to work by Beardo+the+Bearded · · Score: 2, Informative

      I went from 250 to 180 after biking to work. The weight has been off for several years. I'm 5'11" and 31 years old. My BMI is 25.00 (measured today).

      I bike about 45 minutes a day and my bike route is primarily trails. There are minor sections on low-traffic roads.

      I've also been using a Wii Fit at night. I've lost an additional 5 pounds since starting that routine a month ago. (Today was day 30.)

      As for working out in front of people, gym memberships are almost always a rip-off. I had to close a bank account to get away from Nautilus. Fortunately for me, I lied to them about my age and I was only 18 when I signed the papers.

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    51. Re:Bike to work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My experience exactly. I'm a mesomorph, and weight training benefits me by boosting my otherwise conservative metabolism. In addition, weight training can be done in ways that burns calories and is in fact even aerobic as well as anaerobic ( google circuit training). The key is high reps close together in time to maintain a high heart rate. Besides, you'll be buff :)

    52. Re:Bike to work by DaveV1.0 · · Score: 1

      Good idea unless you live in Florida, one of the worst states in which to ride a bike, where it can be 82F and 95% at 8AM and there are no showers at or anywhere near work.

      Yeah, I don't want to be the one who does that, or the guy in the cube next to the guy who does that.

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    53. Re:Bike to work by berboot · · Score: 5, Informative

      If you shower at home before biking, you'll be surprised at how little your sweat smells after a ride into work. Apparently the smell people associate with sweat is mostly bacteria being dispersed by the sweat. Then when you get to work, I change in the restroom into my work clothes, and freshen up any sweaty spots with some scentless moist wipes, apply some deodorant, and I'm good to go for the day. I've been petitioning my employer to install a shower, but so far, no luck.

    54. Re:Bike to work by Hadlock · · Score: 1

      Yup, i.e. go for the regular size combo with no cheese(60 cal), eat only half the french fries (130 cal), and get a diet soda (300 cal).

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    55. Re:Bike to work by Proudrooster · · Score: 1

      Or Bike with a friend before work. The friend part is essential since it provides motivation. Getting up early to exercise all alone is hard to do.

    56. Re:Bike to work by Beardo+the+Bearded · · Score: 4, Informative

      From a quick search, unverified stats show that bikes make up 2% (just like milk) of vehicle fatalities:

      From:
      http://bicycleuniverse.info/transpo/almanac-safety.html

      How many cyclists die

      Deaths per year. 725, 629, 665, 732, and 693 cyclists died per year in 2004, 2003, 2002, 2001, and 2000 respectively, and were about 89% male. (National Highway Traffic Saftey Administration, and Insurance Institute for Highway Safety)

      An average of 16.5 cyclists per million die every year in the U.S. (For motorists, it's 19.9 motorists per million.) (National Safety Council 1988)

      Cyclists are 2% of road deaths & injuries. The 761 cyclists killed in 1996 accounted for 2% of traffic fatalities, and the 59,000 cyclists injured made up 2% of all traffic injuries. (5)

      They also state later:
      Health benefits of cycling outweigh the risks. "The gain of 'life years' through improved fitness among regular cyclists, and thus their increased longevity exceeds the loss of 'life years' in cycle fatalities (British Medical Association, 1992). An analysis based on the life expectancy of each cyclist killed in road accidents using actuarial data, and the increased longevity of those engaging in exercise regimes several times a week compared with those leading relatively sedentary lives, has shown that, even in the current cycle hostile environment, the benefits in terms of life years gained, outweigh life years lost in cycling fatalities by a factor of around 20 to 1." -- Mayer Hillman, Senior Fellow Emeritus, Policy Studies Institute, and British Medical Association researcher (7, 8)

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    57. Re:Bike to work by Nyckname · · Score: 1

      One pound of adipose tissue metabolises six calories per day.

      One pound of muscle tissue metabolises fifty calories per day.

    58. Re:Bike to work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sorrento Valley FTW!

    59. Re:Bike to work by Beardo+the+Bearded · · Score: 2, Informative

      Buy biking clothes and pack your work clothes in your panniers. Take it easy on the way in. When you get to work, change after a brief cool-down. Wash your face in the sink (you may not want to fill it - just use running water) and that should be good enough to get you through your day.

      You'll want to shower daily; you just might have to do it at home.

      I wore slacks and dress shirts for a year while biking to work. It's perfectly doable. The biking clothes make a big difference in your biking comfort. The pants / shorts don't have to be the "sausage casing" style - they make them with outer layers which make them look just like regular shorts.

      I'd suggest putting deodorant and an extra change of socks and underwear in your drawer in case you forget something.

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    60. Re:Bike to work by Beardo+the+Bearded · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I plan on living to the end, not just surviving until I succumb to a heart attack.

      I'm in the best shape of my life now, and it makes life more enjoyable.

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    61. Re:Bike to work by Sparky+McGruff · · Score: 5, Funny

      Perhaps he left off a zero... If he spends 3,000 to 4,000 calories a day, while only eating 12,000 calories, it would explain a lot.

    62. Re:Bike to work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Its not like you are not living the hours spent in exercising yourself, you are living them.
      The key is to do something you enjoy.

      People like biking because its fun, they get to meet people, see places, etc.
      The gym is a social place where you can meet people too.
      Some people even go as far as doing DDR (dance dance revolution) for exercise, I don't think they get bored with it.

      By the way, DDR seems to be a great exercise. A few songs and you already feel like you climbed the Everest.
      Anybody in here does DDR as an exercise? Care to share the experience?

    63. Re:Bike to work by glavenoid · · Score: 1

      Yep, there is a secret trick. Change of clothes. Many of us who cyclocommute wear either cycling specific or athletic clothing that is designed to wick away sweat. At work, just duck into the bathroom (if that's all that's available), maybe wipe down with baby-wipes if necessary, apply deodorant, and change into work attire. The short and long term effects of bike-commuting *far* outweigh this minor inconvenience.

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    64. Re:Bike to work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      This is a myth that's been going around for quite some time...there's absolutely no basis for claiming that a well muscled person burns more calories when sitting on the couch.

      How about the fucking laws of a physics? If that extra muscle isn't decaying, and is being maintained alive, it takes energy to do so.

      The same thing is true for fatter people too. They burn more energy just sitting around. It's one of the reason for the yo-yo dieting. They lower their food intake, lose weight, thus their body requires less energy for maintenance of their thinner body. Now their lower intake of food isn't enough to make them lose weight at the same rate, and eventually they'll stop losing weight altogether. This causes them to becomes disheartened, they quit the diet thinking their new weight is good enough, and start eating at their older levels. Except that their older levels is far more energy than they need and they quickly gain the weight again.

      Advice to everyone who intends to lose weight. This sucks, but until you accept this as the truth, you'll never succeed: you don't go on a diet until you lose the weight and then it's over. You go on a diet, you lose weight. If you stop losing weight, it means you'll have to cut more calories. Eventually you'll reach the weight you want. Then you don't get to eat any more calories. You just found your equilibrium calorie point. That's the maximum you get to eat forever.

      Unless you put on some muscle and do enough cardio to burn more calories. Then you get to eat a bit more.

    65. Re:Bike to work by phkhd · · Score: 1

      I'm lucky to live in a place with nice roads. Back in Virginia, the choices were slim. I think it is key to live somewhere that makes it possible to exercise outside.

      So, I just train like the dickens for events over the year. Things like the Triple Bypass or 24hrs of Moab.

      Actually, just about any type of endurance exercise seems to be suit the geek personality pretty well. There is a lot of science and performance tracking that goes on to optimize your performance.

    66. Re:Bike to work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Second that. I ride 35km to work, 35km back (about 1.5 hours each way, so total of 70km in 3 hours) every day. Start off slow (I started about 12 months ago catching a train about 3/4 of the way), then work your way up to whatever your full distance is.

    67. Re:Bike to work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      and how do you get the bike there?

    68. Re:Bike to work by letxa2000 · · Score: 5, Informative

      Following-up, I found this link which says:

      he estimates that the increased lean body mass associated with exercise can increase total daily energy expenditure by between 8% (143 cals per day) for a moderately active person to 14% (286 cals per day) for a highly active person.

      If this person dos moderate weight training then over time (the increased MBR is not immediate) he might burn an extra 143 calories per day. That pretty much supports my position that if he wants to lose weight, he needs to be on a bike burning 400-740 calories per hour rather than 223 calories per hour of weightlifting. So if he does two hours of weight training to my two hours of biking, he'll burn maybe 223 * 2 + 143 = 589 calories per day in his exercise while I burn close to 1,480 even if I don't get any increased muscle mass from biking (which I do, albeit to a lesser extent than a good weight training program).

      If you want to burn calories: Run or bike, or similar cardio exercises. Of course a balanced workout including weight training is obviously the final goal. But if the immediate goal is weight loss, weight training isn't going to accomplish it nearly as fast as running or biking.

    69. Re:Bike to work by William+Baric · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I have a heart rate monitor, which is a somewhat good tool to evaluate burnt calories. 16 miles per hour on a bike (flat road and no or little wind) will be around 500 calories an hour. 20 miles per hour will jump to about 750 calories (I have a cheap and heavy mountain bike). Running 9 miles per hour will be about 900 calories. As for weight lifting, it's difficult to say because there is a lot of pauses between series (which depend a lot on the number of people in the gym), but I'd guess 400 to 500 calories for a regular session (about an hour) would be about right.

      I'm not saying your site is wrong, but it is certainly wrong for me (at least according to my heart rate monitor).

      I'm curious... Could other people post their own data to compare?

    70. Re:Bike to work by Goldberg's+Pants · · Score: 1

      How can that be done, as the article states, in the privacy of the home? If you work from home you could cycle from the bedroom to your desk I guess.

      Do people even READ the posts anymore?

    71. Re:Bike to work by spyder-implee · · Score: 1

      Amen to that, start riding and you will never stop. And for the record the 'It's too far excuse doesn't hold up - you will usually end up looking for the longest/exciting ride to work oppose to the shortest route.

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    72. Re:Bike to work by arth1 · · Score: 1

      It's not all about quantity of life, it's also the quality.

      Indeed. Have you ever seen a happy jogger?

    73. Re:Bike to work by William+Baric · · Score: 1

      I'm not the parent poster, but I do this and I live in Montréal.

    74. Re:Bike to work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Tell me about it. 1200-1280 calories per meal (4-5x/day), for almost 8 years, an hour walk every morning (~100 feet to the car) and 2 hours of thinking about cyclic + circuit work 5 nights a week. I have just enough strength to get out of bed in the morning. I also have fat rolls hanging off my arms and thighs, my stomach hangs down so much I haven't seen my own crotch in years unless I'm looking in the mirror, and I have two extra chins. 380lbs is the lowest I've been since the 1990s. Some of us make up stories about why we are so fat and I'm one of them.

      Really hate the cliche but "There fixed that for you."

    75. Re:Bike to work by spyder-implee · · Score: 1

      Melbourne, Australia. Bike tracks everywhere.

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    76. Re:Bike to work by kaizokuace · · Score: 1

      regardless a heavily muscled person requires more food as upkeep for those muscles. That should show some evidence that more energy is burned in general. But I think that it isn't about the muscle mass as much as muscle percentage. My friend who is very muscular and my friend who is equally lean but has much smaller muscle mass both eat like monsters. Their metabolism is high. Their bodies have been formed into high output machines that require a lot of fuel. If they stop exercising for a while and lose the tone and definition i am sure they will not actually be as hungry all the time.

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    77. Re:Bike to work by Nefarious+Wheel · · Score: 4, Funny
      Generally I send my orc hunter out on foot instead of using his epic mount.

      Oh, wait...

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    78. Re:Bike to work by letxa2000 · · Score: 1

      Every site is going to be different, as is every body. However, I can't find any site that suggest weight training consumes more calories than running or biking--even considering any benefit the person in question might receive from a modestly increased metabolic rate.

      My argument wasn't that weight training doesn't burn calories. Of course it does. But if the goal is weight loss then it's not the best choice for the stated goals. It seems your post confirms that.

    79. Re:Bike to work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What that fails to mention is what percentage of vehicles are bicycles.

      Me, I walk, and don't own a car or a bicycle.

      But it'd be interesting to see, cause if bikes are 1% of the traffic, and 2% of the fatalities...

    80. Re:Bike to work by TeacherOfHeroes · · Score: 4, Informative

      This was said in jest, but if your city's busses are good enough to include bike racks, and you are able to find a bus route that will take you close to where you work, you can take the bike with you, and just bike home.

    81. Re:Bike to work by cdance · · Score: 1

      I agree. Cycling to work is the best way for a programmer to keep fit. You effectively kill two birds with the one stone - get to work and keep fit at the same time meaning you loose no programming time! My employer, PaperCut Software, actively encourages all employees to ride where possible. We're all provided with free membership for Bicycle Victoria providing us with basic accident and 3rd party insurance.

    82. Re:Bike to work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Take a shower just before leaving. Go slowly (13 or 14 miles an hour) when going from home to work (you won't sweat much) and, just in case, bring a towel and some spare clothes. If you eat and drink correctly, your sweat won't smell. When going from work to home, that's when you go fast to do some exercize.

    83. Re:Bike to work by Goldberg's+Pants · · Score: 1

      I don't do it as much as I should, but yes, I do. Though I actually use "In The Groove" on the PS2. I find it better than DDR, and I don't feel like it's trying to kill me:) The workout mode has a timer and I do 20 minutes. The calorie burn counter is horse shit because if you step and miss (which if you're horribly uncoordinated it's really easy to do) it doesn't count the calorie despite you doing the move. And if you're very tall like me, you can't change the settings to match your height, so it's largely nonsense.

      The songs are pretty shitty too, but they have a fast beat which is what you need, and they're not the worst songs in the world.

      Overall I'd recommend it. It's the perfect in house exercise that isn't boring.

    84. Re:Bike to work by Galactic+Dominator · · Score: 1

      WTF?

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    85. Re:Bike to work by hansamurai · · Score: 1

      I've been biking (not to work, too far still) for the past six weeks and have lost more than 10 pounds. Smaller food portions have helped too, and drinking tons and tons of water (don't know if that does anything but I enjoy drinking it).

      I was 205 for the last two years when I was at most 160 for about eight straight years (I have the stretch marks to prove my quick weight gain). I'm 6'2'' so that weight wasn't horrible, but being 195 now feels really nice, plus I'm getting used to biking and going for longer and longer rides. It feels great.

    86. Re:Bike to work by silverkniveshotmail. · · Score: 1

      With the bus, remember?

    87. Re:Bike to work by flewp · · Score: 3, Funny

      You are full of shit; that may explain your obesity.

      Reminds me of one of my favorite quotes from the TV show "Scrubs" by Dr. Cox:

      "Well here's the deal you are what you eat so you clearly must have gone out and devoured a big fat guy!"

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    88. Re:Bike to work by igny · · Score: 1

      How about the effects on fertility? Oh wait, this is Slashdot.

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    89. Re:Bike to work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      If you shower at home before biking, you'll be surprised at how little your sweat smells after a ride into work.


      Cluetrain, comin through!! You don't notice your smell nearly as much as the non-relatives around you.

      Then when you get to work, I change in the restroom into my work clothes

      In case you want to know where to find me naked...

      and freshen up any sweaty spots with some scentless moist wipes, apply some deodorant, and I'm good to go for the day.

      Be thankful for small favors. Glad I don't work in your office!

    90. Re:Bike to work by eugene+ts+wong · · Score: 1

      That does sound silly, but some transit systems have bike racks on all/most buses. So, he could bus to work, and bike home. Or even better, he could bike casually part way, and then ride the bus the rest of the way, and then bike home.

    91. Re:Bike to work by Goldberg's+Pants · · Score: 2, Insightful

      So bsically waste food. Sorry, but if you're going to only eat half the fries, DON'T FUCKING BUY THEM! Honestly wasting food, especially with the costs these days, is just fucking sick.

    92. Re:Bike to work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      actually, there is a problem, some sort of inertia on the perceived energy requirement and the actual body metabolism, so if they stop out of the blue, they will maintain a month or two their eating level, quickly gaining fat mass. losing that weight is a terrible self control exercise, I know because I suddenly stopped training due to increased working hours and now im almost 10kg overweight

    93. Re:Bike to work by arth1 · · Score: 1

      I want to start doing, but I work in an office where they'd care if I came to work sweaty and stinky. What's the solution to this?

      I wouldn't call it a solution, but what most of the jocks do seems to be to splash on liberal amounts of perfumes.
      The problem is that even if your job has a shower, and you take one, the perspiration levels stay increased for a couple of hours after exercising. So unless you can take a second shower a couple of hours later, you are going to stink more than someone who hasn't exercised. And then the jocks make a bathroom break, spray themselves with deodorant to cover it up, and nearly kill the allergics. Not a good idea, IMNSHO.

    94. Re:Bike to work by vrmlguy · · Score: 1

      Take a shower? If there isn't one in your building, there's probably one in a gym that isn't too far from your building.

      I used to work for a start-up in an office park. We occupied half of the third floor, so company provided facilities weren't likely and the YMCA was five miles away. One day I discovered that the restrooms in the basement all had a shower. *Sweet!*

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    95. Re:Bike to work by Kell+Bengal · · Score: 5, Interesting
      I have had a similar experience. I do an hour of exercise a night (mostly riding - about 2500 kj) and lived on 4000 kj daily (yes, I worked it out) and my weight never droped below 110 kg.

      I got frustrated and decided to get scientific about it. When I did the maths I was surprised that my daily base intake should be 8000 kj - about twice of what I was getting. I realised that my body was probably in starvation mode and my metabolism was very slow.

      Currently, I'm working on an energy intake of about 6000-8000 kj and letting the exercise I do increase my metabolism and burn it off slowly. Consider upping your intake to 1500 calories a day and see how your metabolism reacts.

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    96. Re:Bike to work by kesuki · · Score: 4, Interesting

      "The minimum caloric needs of your 380 lb corpulence are ~2700 calories/day. Any less than that and your body starts raiding your fat rolls like your raid bakery rolls."

      perhaps, the fault doesn't lie in the AC, but rather in the information he's using to obtain his calories? I for one have noticed that food packaging, while usually having truthful nutrition facts labels, have downright false of misleading front of package portion numbers, the worst offender was 'great value' brand products, their microwave bacon claims the same number of ounces as their competitor, hormel, yet if you go by the nutrition facts label, and do the math you wind up with double the number of grams of meat as on the front of the package. if you go by calories per gram, and multiply by the front of the package, you'd only come up with 50% of the actual calories.

      now myself, the only diet i use is pretty simple. 1. restrict sugar. sugar is evil, and i avoid sugary foods wherever possible. 2. snack healthy this means, for me, popcorn, pork rinds, whole grain baked snack chips, 1% fat cottage cheese, or small quantities of peanut butter + wheat bread (like a fold over sandwich)

      anything high in protein is a priority over other snacking options carb based snacks are highly limited, once in a while for a treat i'll get a 99 cent sized potato/dorrito chip bag, or a candy bar, mostly the only other treat i allow is stride gum, which uses more carbs in chewing that chewing gum gives calories.

      Since i can't tolerate asperatame (headaches) that means i'm stuck with sucralose or stevia for low carb flavored drinks. luckily a very nice sucralose based powdered drink mix is on the market under 2 brand names propel, and fulfill. for $2.50/10 pack and $2/10 pack respectively. This is my primary daily drink although i'm likely getting over vitaminized by this but they're water soluble vitamins...

      since my food is also on a budget, i've been relying on some fairly cheap, but not as good for me products, and i shop almost exclusively at the local wal-mart. i was having weight gain problems when i was eating breakfast cereal daily, and i have trouble following my diet on vacations, since my relatives have no sane diet restrictions... but since i cut the breakfast cereal, my weight has stabilized. i only eat breakfast (microwave ones, though) on my grocery shopping day, so i'm not shopping on an empty stomach. i allow allow myself about 16 ounces of sugar sweetened soda(actually 1/4 a 2-liter), per day maximum, skipping days whenever possible through will power, etc.

      and i sit all day in front of a computer, and don't exercise.

      it's totally unhealthy, to not exercise, but i always justify my life style with the 'you can't live forever' argument.

    97. Re:Bike to work by flewp · · Score: 0, Troll

      I really hate the holier than thou attitude as well. I'll gladly share the road with cyclists... when they start going the speed limit instead of doing 20mph in the middle of the road with a posted 30 mph speed limit - thus holding everyone behind them up.

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    98. Re:Bike to work by Darinbob · · Score: 2, Interesting

      In Silicon Valley I can't imagine the thought of biking to work. It's way too dangerous, the bike lanes are often missing, and there's no easy way to change lanes. I don't even feel safe in my car sometimes. Probably a non-issue for people who grew up in the city, but coming from a small town I just don't want to try it. (and what's with the idiot bike riders who don't even follow traffic rules?)

      As an alternative, walking is easy to do. Just wander around the block every day at work. You don't have to really work hard at it, even a little bit is helpful. Walk to lunch; use the stairs instead of elevators; etc. Walk a trail on the weekend. And you can do this alone without having to talk to anyone. You could join Team In Training, but that's too social :-)

      You could also try jogging. A bit more involved, having to do the whole gym thing all over again with workout clothes and showers, etc. But again you don't have to talk to anyone (it's impossible if you're out of breath anyway).

      If your job has a gym, use a stationary bike or treadmill. Put some headphones on and no one will try to talk to you.

    99. Re:Bike to work by dougmc · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Another myth. And while it can cause problems with erection, that's only if you go numb down there. Picking the right saddle, adjusting it properly, having the right clothing (cycling shorts are padded, which helps but certainly isn't required) and simple practice will prevent any problems in that department.

      And besides, chicks dig cyclist legs. That'll do far more for your erection and your fertility ...

    100. Re:Bike to work by flewp · · Score: 5, Funny

      Buy a huge SUV big enough to fit your bike in. Then drive to work with the bike. Then ride your bike home. Then take a cab to pick up your SUV and drive home. Simple!

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    101. Re:Bike to work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If your sweat smells that bad, it's a sign you don't eat right.

    102. Re:Bike to work by dougmc · · Score: 1

      Fresh sweat doesn't smell that much. It's only old sweat that really stinks. (Though not everybody's sweat smells equally. Some you never smell, some stink all the time, actively sweating or not.)

      Also, it's pretty easy to bring fresh clothes with you, and you can clean yourself up with wet paper towels or a sponge without a shower. And keep some deoderant at work.

      Also, you can take it easy. Cycling at 10 mph is MUCH less strenuous than cycling at 15 mph.

    103. Re:Bike to work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yup. Weight training may ADD weight, so if the only consideration is weight, don't develop muscles. However, having more muscle mass will help one burn more at rest, as you mention. And, if you ever stop exercising, you'll lose some muscle mass and thus lose weight.(not recommended)

      Most slashdotters exercise their brains.

      And biking outdoors is fun, except when it's very cold or icy.

    104. Re:Bike to work by dougmc · · Score: 1

      and if you subtract the time spent exercising or recovering, it's not like you'll live noticeably longer anyhow.

      As I understand it, you're incorrect. An hour spent exercising will, on average, make you live a few hours longer. Citation, though I don't know how accurate his claim is. It will also make you more healthy, so you'll enjoy the hours that you are alive more.

      (You never really appreciate your health properly until you don't have it ...)

    105. Re:Bike to work by lawaetf1 · · Score: 1

      Alas, poor me, the hard gainer. If I don't exercise I start *losing* weight. It might sound like a gift but when you're 6'1 and 140lbs you're pretty skinny.

      If I make a concerted effort to eat three meals a day and work out I can sidle up to 155 of wiry mass but it takes discipline.

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    106. Re:Bike to work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Riding a bike, depending where you live will expose you to traffic fumes. Not good on the lungs. Jogging will place to much stress on your knees, particularly if you are overweight and not fit - even athletes suffer from long term joint problems. The best (as in does not stress your body too much but burns A LOT of energy) cardio workout is swimming and rowing. Maybe invest in a rowing machine at home. Use it every other day for 20minutes, by cycling through a three minute routine where you start of light, then medium then flat out sprint, and repeat for 20minutes. do this for about a month, and then introduce resistance training on each day in between, focusing on only one muscle group per day, Use enough weights so you can do 12 slow reps, and rest for 30 seconds. do 5 sets of these - reduce the weights if necessary to maintain the rep count.

      This method eases you in, without stressing your body - which can turn you off exercise.

      AND the most important thing is to have a HUGE breakfast with at least 50g of carbs. a medium lunch with equal carbs and protein. and a small dinner with mostly protein and minimum carbs. don't snack on anything except vegestable like carrots and celery - not fruit, it has too much sugar. You can have some for breakfast but that's it. no soft drinks or sweets - except for one day a week where you can pig out (within reason).

      it's not hard to maintain if you put effort in, and the exercises can be done infront of the TV but make sure you put the effort in. that you push yourself. start now and you'll be buff by end of the year.

      peace.

    107. Re:Bike to work by Beardo+the+Bearded · · Score: 1

      I've got two kids, and they took practice. I know that it's a great meme to say "ha, nobody online get laid" but it's simply not true. Most geeks and engineers are outgoing people with interesting personalities. You attitude is simply incorrect, and if you're using your "geekiness" to hide a lack of social skills, you're going to be sadly disappointed later in life. I'll give you a tip in DnD terms: CHA is the only stat you can fake, and the only one you actually improve when you fake it.

      Get a decent saddle, adjust it properly (in my experience, most bike shops will give you an improper fit) and you'll be fine. If you feel any numbness, you require an adjustment. Note that a slight pain is normal on the second week. Those are your muscles adjusting to holding your weight on a very small surface area.

      Unless you're biking 100k+ in a day, every day, you won't have to worry about the effects of the close-fitting shorts on your sperm count.

      Also: when you're fitter, it's better.

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    108. Re:Bike to work by InadequateCamel · · Score: 1

      IIRC, the metabolic benefit is somewhere around 50 calories per pound of muscle.

      I liken cardio to the Atkins diet and weight training to the balanced diet (strictly in terms of immediate impact on body composition...I'm ignoring benefits of cardio like the significant benefits to cardiovascular fitness): the former pair will ensure you lose weight quickly but they require vigilant adherence, whereas the latter pair yield more long-term effects.

      So, if you need to drop a few pounds to fit into the wedding dress, hit the stairmaster. Otherwise, for general health benefits and long-term weight management you need a balance of running in place/climbing imaginary staircases with repeatedly picking up reasonably heavy things and putting them back down again.

    109. Re:Bike to work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      +5 Awesome

    110. Re:Bike to work by Macman408 · · Score: 1

      Go one step further - sell your car. Get a decent bike, a rear rack, and some panniers. Maybe a sizable shoulder bag, too. I'll bike to the grocery store, buy a week's worth of groceries, and take them home. When I get there, I carry the bike and groceries up the stairs - luckily I only live one flight up, but I used to live 3 flights up. Plan some fun biking trips - find a campground 30 miles away, bike there on a Saturday, and back on Sunday. Be sure to have friends bike with you. When biking isn't feasible, use public transportation, or even rent a car for those rare occasions where it's necessary. And maybe you can't get away with selling your car - but if you at least minimize how much you use it, it'll help.

      Also, find something fun to do outside. I like canoeing, especially somewhere absolutely isolated (though I bring a few close friends). Ultimate frisbee is also popular with the geeks. Find a recreational league, sign up for something fun (softball, soccer, volleyball). Or just take a walk around your neighborhood - walk down the roads you've never been on before.

      I agree that exercising in a gym is unappealing. So camouflage your exercise as something else - a mode of transportation, playing a game, or a leisure activity. Especially if you do it with other people, so you don't feel like you're being watched.

    111. Re:Bike to work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      FYI: (30min exercise at home + 15min shower + change clothing) * 4 = 3 hours a week out of 105 waking hours a week = ~3% of your life and you will live far more than 3% longer and enjoy the time you have more.

    112. Re:Bike to work by vawarayer · · Score: 1

      Yeah. There's a secret trick

    113. Re:Bike to work by Skippy_kangaroo · · Score: 3, Insightful

      See, the thing about sharing is that you don't get to do whatever you damn well please whenever you want to. That's what makes it sharing rather than being selfish.

      Do you feel the same way about school busses? You'll share the road with school busses and children when they travel at 30mph without stopping or crossing the road? I presume you also think that anyone over 60 should have their licenses confiscated because they rarely travel at the speed limit. And while we're at it, let's get rid of all heavy vehicles, all tourists who are confused about where they are and drive slowly looking for street signs, all people driving slowly looking for a parking spot, and all learner drivers. I'm sure that will solve all your problems.

    114. Re:Bike to work by spiffyman · · Score: 1

      Why the hell did this get modded +3 Insightful?

      Not only is it not recommended that casual fitness enthusiasts exercise for 2 hours per day, but the parent is ignoring the psychological benefits of regular exercise. That's not a jock's advice - it's just a simple fact that you'll feel better with regular exercise than you would by merely avoiding atrophy.

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    115. Re:Bike to work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A good mix is obviously best. But if he wants to burn calories, I stand by my assertion that traditional exercises such as running, swimming, and cycling are more efficient at burning calories than weight training unless you're doing some ungodly effort on the weight training.

      What's easier: running full tilt for an hour or saying, "No, I'll have the salad instead of the Big Mac." Same caloric difference.

    116. Re:Bike to work by wh1pp3t · · Score: 1

      Bike to work. (Make living close enough to bike a priority.)

      I want to start doing, but I work in an office where they'd care if I came to work sweaty and stinky. What's the solution to this?

      Baby-wipe shower.

    117. Re:Bike to work by Skippy_kangaroo · · Score: 1

      If you are commuting by bike it doesn't really take any extra time to exercise than if you sat in a car or rode the bus. Bike commuting is usually as quick if not quicker than alternatives (see Top Gear for example) so it is a time-efficient way to exercise.

    118. Re:Bike to work by PietjeJantje · · Score: 1

      Health benefits of cycling outweigh the risks.

      Ah yes..for the BORG it does! What good does it do to me? If you're in a collective, indeed a lot of healty biking borg will give them a benefit (although it's a rather slow way of space travel) even if you die. As a human, I ponder how to enjoy the benefits of my increased health while I'm dead.

    119. Re:Bike to work by aaarrrgggh · · Score: 1

      I live in Los Angeles and bike to work every day. Yes, there are bad days, but it is safe enough if you are smart about time, route, and habits. You also need to be within a reasonable distance for cycling.

      It is possible almost anywhere. Obviously you try to avoid the biggest roads wherever you can; dealing with freeways, train tracks, subway grates, and road rage can be problems...

    120. Re:Bike to work by hack++slash · · Score: 1

      I have to agree, cycling to work is great, just twist the throttle and you're there in no time, without even breaking a sweat!

      O, wait, you meant a non-electric bike.

      I think that explains why I'm now accumulating mass around my middle after over 30 years of being skinny. If I owned a car I'd have gotten big & round years ago just like my uncles, maybe it's time I got a normal bike again for the excersize.

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    121. Re:Bike to work by OctaviusIII · · Score: 1

      You can do circuit training with a mix of anaerobic and aerobic excercise. The premise is: do 1 set of one thing (bench press, say), then do a set of something else. Then jog for a little. Then go back to your second set of bench press, then your second set of whatever was next, and then jog again, and so on through your routine. It's quite effective and can shorten the length of time you spend exercising while increasing the returns, so long as you remember to switch up how you work each muscle group every month or two.

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    122. Re:Bike to work by stpk4 · · Score: 1

      Good mix is best for general purpose, having more muscle will improve the rate that you burn through the fat. So unless you want to stay lean for other purposes ( marathons? ) should mix up weights with cardio

    123. Re:Bike to work by jcgf · · Score: 1

      I was 6'5" and 135lbs about 10 years ago. Now I'm around 190 and was up to 220 for a bit. The way I gained weight was that my doctor prescribed Olanzapine. I've since quit taking it, but have found it quite easy to keep the weight on compared to gaining it. I guess my point is that I know how you feel.

    124. Re:Bike to work by Cylix · · Score: 1

      Funny thing about the gym....

      It's the only place you can be surrounded by hundreds of people and still be alone.

      Most everyone there was always much like myself and immersed in their routine. (With headphones on as well).

      For me, who at times is socially questionable, didn't bother me a bit.

      Seriously, you get more interaction at a grocery store.

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    125. Re:Bike to work by Hadlock · · Score: 1

      It's too real to be a carefully crafted troll...
       
      Dude, WAKE UP - don't believe everything you read - especially the counter culture crap. How old are you? 15? 100 grams of fried potatoes wasted is nothing. I shit that much undigested food in a day. I also drink four diet cokes a day, which is wasteful and does nothing for me or the environment, but I'll take the little luxuries where I can. I do my part to conserve - I live close to work (2 miles by choice, and pay dearly for it), I leave the thermostat set to 83 (in DALLAS, in AUGUST), I take short showers during droughts, and I only water my garden - not the lawn. Fuck you and your judgment, I'll do as I please.

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    126. Re:Bike to work by hedwards · · Score: 3, Informative

      Some of this isn't really a specific reply.

      Unless a person is really out of shape he or she isn't going to be losing weight during resistance training. It's not going to happen typically unless you're doing something wrong. It's definitely possible to put on 20lbs., of muscle without losing even 1 lbs., of fat.

      The thing to sort of watch for is that the body composition should be changing to favor muscle over fat. A person can still carry quite a bit of fat whilst still weight training if they aren't careful about caloric intake. The natural tendency is to increase calories by enough to offset the difference.

      Weights are a great invert exercise set, just as long as there are no barbells involved. A good set of dumbbells can more than do the trick when used properly.

      The ultimate dumbbell guide by Myatt Murphy is probably the best guide book I've ever read. It's quite to the point and leaves little to be desired in terms of the actual lifts.

      Depending upon the situation cardio work tends to be the more difficult thing to do without a gym. I say depending, if a person is able to get outside to do things like running, biking or handle jump rope, that's going to be a good choice.

      For the rest of us it's treadmills or trainers in doors.

      In terms of diet, one doesn't typically need to add much protein at all in order to gain weight. The general rule is protein before and carbs after. The reason being that protein eaten after a workout isn't broken down and into the muscle while it's still building the bulk of the muscle. The carbs are mostly there to ensure that you're not burning protein for energy.

      Typical water consumption is about 1 oz., per pound of weight. I don't really know how that translates to the metric system. Specifically, I'm not feeling like doing the conversion there.

      The more accurate method is do a weigh before and after and then drink the amount of water necessary to make up the weight difference. It's not exact, but it'll typically be pretty close.

    127. Re:Bike to work by Cylix · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I find in my area there are a great number of places to cycle at. (Trails, suburban areas and even huge tracks of land)

      However, none of that stops the cyclist from making traffic a nightmare.

      Me, I do cycle, but I also have the sense not to screw around in high traffic areas.

      I really haven't seen a good deal near the highway since I witnessed an accident though.

      Bike vs Car, car wins.

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    128. Re:Bike to work by Cylix · · Score: 1

      People are crazy!

      I used to have a routine around the last city I lived in. It was a huge loop and it was fairly nice. Some down slopes, some huge uphills and a few things to jump off of.

      However, when traffic picked up it was vicious.

      I think the previous summer I was almost hit no less then three times. Thankfully, my keen instinct to live forced me to veer away violently.

      Incidentally, I was one of the crazy ones who would stay with the flow of traffic in a downhill slope.

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    129. Re:Bike to work by hedwards · · Score: 1

      A frequent problem people have when they work out, usually on a treadmill or similar in the gym, is that they'll go out and eat a similar number of calories later. Usually they aren't eating as many so in theory they should be operating at a net deficit.

      Unfortunately, the calculations on cardio equipment are usually off by about a factor of 2x, meaning that they're giving a figure which is typically about double the number of calories actually being burned.

      Also people frequently don't count calories from beverages. It's easy to not notice the calories in there and they can make up a huge amount of a persons daily intake.

      The other thing is that anybody who hasn't seen even 5 lbs., lost over the course of a couple months or so is doing something wrong, or in some fashion sabotaging it. A suitably qualified personal trainer will be able to get that wait loss in a month or less in most cases. This part of the country the Apex certs plus an endorsement from the NASM are pretty much the gold standard. Other parts of the country may use other qualifications.

    130. Re:Bike to work by geekgirlandrea · · Score: 1

      If the cost of half a bag of fries is anything other than utterly trivial for you, you really shouldn't be eating out at all. Sheesh.

    131. Re:Bike to work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There are a lot reasons that may not be true. It might be 100 degrees (F) outside, it might be raining. I ride my bike 30-50 miles a day, you most certainly can stink after an hour out of the shower on the bike.

      Plenty of offices do have showers and chaning rooms though.

      If you live somewhere fairly temperate and have a 10 mile or so trip you should be able to make it without working up too much sweat if you are in reasonable shape. However that is probably not getting your heart up to an ideal range, it is still better than nothing and every little bit helps.

      Use stairs whenever possible, no need to take the elevator on anything less 6 floors for most people, you can do 10 easy if not pressed for time. Some US high rises go out of their way to make it diffuclt to use the stairs, but when there is a will , there is a way.

    132. Re:Bike to work by Piranhaa · · Score: 2, Informative

      Agreed. This is why HIIT (High Intensity Interval Training) is getting so much attention now. You can get a motabolism boost up to 24 hours after performing the exercise, and burn a LOT of calories after the session. It's quick (15 minutes plus pre and post-stretching) and very good for you - changing up between aerobic and anaerobic exercise..

      This site has a bit more than I mentioned here... http://musclemedia.com/training/hiit.asp .. Lots of other resources too. http://www.t-nation.com/readArticle.do?id=1756065

      I personally do 5 minute warmup followed by a couple minute stretch. Then run for 1 minute on a decent running pace, spiking it up for 15-30 seconds and aim for 90-95% of my MHR (max heart rate) and then bringing it back down to the pace I started with for another minute.. Repeating this for 15 or so minutes, followed by a 5 minutes cool down and then some more stretching. By the 10 minute mark you seriously feel like you're done but you got to push though it.

    133. Re:Bike to work by joggle · · Score: 1

      This is really the only sensible suggestion. My office building installed 2 showers in the restrooms in the basement (one for the girls and one for the guys, no coed the bastards). Rather than take a shower when I get up, I just pack my clothes into a backpack, put on my cycling clothes (spandex) and ride over. Arrive at the building, take a shower, get dressed, ready for work.

    134. Re:Bike to work by Hadlock · · Score: 1

      Even in august it's rarely above 83 degrees by 9am here in Dallas. I don't stink when I get to work after a 15 min all-uphill ride to work (granted it's Texas and moderately flat but it's still a 150 foot vertical climb overall). It's usually 100 by 1pm or so and peaks around 4pm here.

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    135. Re:Bike to work by allenthelee · · Score: 0

      I just bring a fresh shirt and deodorant and bike to work in Phoenix. Some people are definitely more fragrant than others though so YMMV.

    136. Re:Bike to work by arth1 · · Score: 1

      Why the hell did this get modded +3 Insightful?

      Not only is it not recommended that casual fitness enthusiasts exercise for 2 hours per day, but the parent is ignoring the psychological benefits of regular exercise. That's not a jock's advice - it's just a simple fact that you'll feel better with regular exercise than you would by merely avoiding atrophy.

      One man's fact is another man's fantasy. Having been both an active exerciser and a lazy lifestyle, I can say with the authority of someone having tried both that while I enjoyed it while I exercised, in retrospect, I didn't feel better. I had to adjust my life around exercising, was hungry all the time, injured myself a fair bit more, and while I could jump a fence with no problems, or run up the stairs, there never was any imperative to do so.
      FWIW, I trained in a training studio for two hours every day, plus rode a bike or walked to and from work. I was considered healthy, and thought myself to be happy.

      Then something unforeseen happened, and I no longer could exercise. At first, this was a loss, and I missed it a lot. Then acceptance came, and I gradually discovered that there was a lot more to life that I had missed out on with my active lifestyle. Like not being hungry all the time, and being able to take time to enjoy a good meal, not just wolf it down for the proteins. Like being able to stay up with friends until 5 AM, because I no longer would fall in a stupor at 1 AM because my body was tired. Like being able to take things as they come, instead of having to plan for when to take a shower, how to change, or (always a big one) how to get food.
      I can sit up and read a book from cover to cover without passing out. I can enjoy a good pipe and glass of fine whisky. When having sex, I no longer ejaculate after 3 minutes nor fall asleep afterwards. I don't sweat even a fraction of what I did, which, truth to be told, is quite nice.
      No, I no longer can jump a fence or rush up a flight of stairs carrying heavy stuff, but I don't have to. And if I have to walk twice from the car to bring the groceries in, so what -- it's a nice day, and I don't have any hurry. Hurry, hurry, hurry was the order of the day back when I exercised. Now I have a sedate lifestyle, and enjoy life a hell of a lot more. I have time and incentive to actually stop and enjoy it.
      So what if I die ten years earlier, if I enjoy life more? And a heart attack isn't the worst way to go either.

    137. Re:Bike to work by Dare+nMc · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Just bike home from work, instead?

      I did this for awhile, 2 methods: car pool with pickup drivers, not my week I throw in the bike, this way I could get in the extra hours needed for my job.
      Truck with bicycle to work. Bicycle home. Motorcycle to work. Motorcycle in truck home. repeat.
      Need safe storage at your work. This was more informal, IE always tried to leave 2 wheel backup at work, and car pool (motorcycles actually not that fuel efficient, since no guy would ride with me on a moto. 45 MPG cycle is 45 mpg per passenger mile. 25 MPG pickup + 5 adults = 125 MPG/ passenger. My share was only 3, still 75 MPG/ passenger mile > moto.)

    138. Re:Bike to work by shermo · · Score: 1

      Is heart rate a reliable indicator of calories burned? I always thought so.

      If I'm right about that, then what's the point in arguing about 'cardio' vs weightlifting? They're both loose terms describing points on a continuum. Someone who has a high heart rate while doing a 'weightlifting' workout will burn calories at a faster rate than someone who doesn't.

      Measure your heart rate, look up how many calories that burns, problem solved.

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    139. Re:Bike to work by blitziod · · Score: 4, Insightful

      accept you are confusing phsyics with biology. the caloric content of food is based on what the average person should be able to get from it. If the posters body can extract more of the energy from foods( or certain types of foods) than average he will get more energy than the caloric contents on the label. those are not based at 100% conversion to energy.

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    140. Re:Bike to work by LaskoVortex · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      chicks dig cyclist legs

      almost as much as showing up in a $80,000 ride.

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    141. Re:Bike to work by Eternal+Annoyance · · Score: 1

      Better yet: walk to/from work.

      Granted, you'll need to live relatively close to work, but you'll burn more calories then with cycling.
      Need to do groceries? Walk to the shop,if possible.

      Go for a swim once in a while, you use a lot of muscles while swimming and it can be fun.

      Pick up gardening as a hobby (I'm sure you have a nice slab of concrete as a garden :P, but that can be fixed), as it can be very heavy labor to maintain a garden.

      Instead of taking the elevator, try climbing the stairs instead (if possible/feasible).

    142. Re:Bike to work by dougmc · · Score: 3, Funny

      $80k would buy you one sweeeet bicycle!

    143. Re:Bike to work by ntboz · · Score: 1

      I find jumping to conclusions works for me!

    144. Re:Bike to work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Exactly what I was going to say. Being introverted is neither better nor worse than being extroverted.

    145. Re:Bike to work by DudeFromMars · · Score: 1

      Biking is good. Be more than careful - a few drivers are hostile to sharing the road and most won't notice you. Cut carbohydrate consumption - high carb consumption makes you fat in the middle. Diabetes is an occupational risk for programmers as we get older. Many of the fat programmers my age (50) are diabetic. Another good reason to cut carbohydrates and increase exercise.

    146. Re:Bike to work by drsquare · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The problem with not weight-training, is that when you lose weight there's nothing there other than loose skin and bone.

    147. Re:Bike to work by Fjandr · · Score: 1

      While I don't have external citations to back this up, logically it doesn't follow that heart rate is a good indicator of calorie consumption. Over a period of time, a person's heart rate will lower with the same amount of work as the body's oxygen efficiency rises.

    148. Re:Bike to work by cool_arrow · · Score: 1

      I agree. I live in the san fernando valley Ca and I've seen alot of cyclists riding in what I would consider dangerous traffic. Not worth it. Too many people in a hurry and on phones.

    149. Re:Bike to work by eh2o · · Score: 1

      I bring a clean shirt and peel of the sweaty one as soon as I get to work... works for me.

    150. Re:Bike to work by dubl-u · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The minimum caloric needs of your 380 lb corpulence are ~2700 calories/day.

      I've seen other people make similar reports. You're quoting an average number, but I've never seen good data on the outliers, which this guy could well be.

      Also, data like that you quote is generally taken from people on normal diets. The body has a number of low-calorie adaptations do deal with times of famine.

      Although the AC you reply to is not typical, you won't be able to know that he's actually wrong until you get him in a lab for a week. Which, given that you feel confident enough to be a total dick about it, I'm sure you've already done, right?

    151. Re:Bike to work by zrobotics · · Score: 1

      Simple, move to Minneapolis. Yeah, it's in the midwest, but it's usually easier to ride your bike than deal with parking and traffic.

    152. Re:Bike to work by drsquare · · Score: 1

      So you cycle to the gym (after paying hundreds for membership), use the shower, then cycle to work and you're sweaty again. And in all this time your suit is creased to fuck in your bag.

      I used to cycle to work and didn't lose any weight, but in fact gained it. It doesn't burn that many calories if you're only doing say 10 miles a day. It isn't worth getting soaking wet every day and dodging traffic.

    153. Re:Bike to work by fugue · · Score: 1

      Moreover, (1) live near the highest point in town, (2) do all your grocery shopping at the lowest good grocery store in town, (3) do your errands by bike (which sort of goes without saying, I guess...).

      Worked great for me!

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    154. Re:Bike to work by funwithBSD · · Score: 1

      You have to calibrate for weight. The more you weigh the more calories you burn at a surprising rate.

      I just did (tonight) 1hr, 20 minutes, average 15 mph, burned 1450 cals. Using a Polar CS200 for a HR monitor.
      (My fitness goal is 1000 per hour, regardless of distance or speed. I can do that with ease.)

      Why? I weigh 240. (Overweight, but even at a reasonable 12% BFI I would still be 205)

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    155. Re:Bike to work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Cyclists are 2% of road deaths & injuries.

      That's like saying there is practically no chance of being killed by a shark. It all depends on whether you swim with them. If you suddenly start biking a lot, then your comforting "2%" figure means absolutely nothing to an individual cyclist.

    156. Re:Bike to work by linkedlinked · · Score: 1

      +1 for showers at work. I work at a major software vendor where there are showers in about half of the buildings. I've got a locker, no registration necessary, that'll stay locked for a week after I last accessed it, which means I can leave things at work when I need to, leave clothes in random buildings close to bars I'm hanging out at (mattress in my office; why drive home?), or just work all night before a deadline. Granted, I live ~15 miles from work, and still don't bike, but I'm still in the younger years and have the metabolism to support 36 cups of Raman a day without lifting more than an xbox controller in over a week.

    157. Re:Bike to work by funwithBSD · · Score: 1

      Effective Cycling

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Effective_Cycling

      Has detailed analysis on what causes injury/death to cyclists.

      It is other cyclists. Specifically ones riding against traffic and those breaking the law. One of the most common is getting rear ended by a cyclist that is NOT going to stop for a signal/stopsign.

      Act like a car, other drivers will respect you. Granted, there are still a-holes... but they would do the same to you in a car.

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    158. Re:Bike to work by TheLink · · Score: 1

      The main problem is drivers might swerve to avoid hitting them and thus kill someone else. They should just brake in a straight line instead - better for overall safety, if it doesn't work, the bright side is the cyclist may never run a red light again.

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    159. Re:Bike to work by bennomatic · · Score: 1

      PORTLAND!

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    160. Re:Bike to work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In the short term, aerobic exercise WILL burn more calories, so you are correct there.

      However, weight training burns more calories on a longer term than aerobic exercise alone because muscle tissue requires calories to sustain itself.

      If you put on 5 pounds of muscle, that's going to burn calories even when you're just sitting there on the couch over the next few days.

      Either way, you're going to have to do aerobic exercise to put on muscle. So stop whining about people watching you and get out there, fatty.

    161. Re:Bike to work by bennomatic · · Score: 1

      What WTF? In Portland, for example, every stinkin' bus has a multi-bike rack up in the front. Lots of people do one-way bus, one-way bike commutes here. It's awesome.

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    162. Re:Bike to work by jmaccelari · · Score: 1

      Yep - it's uber geek and healthy. It's faster for me to travel the 16kms (10 mile for you in the US) to work than to travel by car!

    163. Re:Bike to work by Adoxographer · · Score: 2, Informative

      A combination will give better results with less investment of time. Letxa and Nick, you're both partially right in different ways.

      The most important thing is to increase BMR. This can be done by exercising at about three quarters of your maximum for 20 minutes every few days. Most of the calories you burn through exercise are usually burned while you aren't exercising because of raised BMR.

      Hypertrophic (muscle building exercise) isn't as efficient at raising your BMR, but it has two very important added benefits. The first is raising lean body mass which means to use more energy moving , oxygenating your tissue et cetera (e.g. while doing the aerobic exercise or just resting). The second is the relatively large amount of energy it takes to metabolise dietary protein into muscle tissue. IIRC a gram of muscle takes more energy to make than a gram of fat, and that's even discounting the protein required.

      Spending equal time on each (up to the point of diminishing returns for hypertrophic exercise) will lower your weight faster than spending all of the time on aerobic. Additionally, if aesthetics are an issue you may wish to replace the decreasing fat with something else so you don't end up a thin but saggy skin bag.

      I'd recommend biking or similar for cardio. Plus pilates for all-over tone, strength and posture. Plus free weights for increasing muscle mass.
      If you had to pick one I'd say pilates as it gives both aerobic and hypertrophic in roughly equal amounts, and a decent video will show how to vary the exercises to make them more or less strenuous.

    164. Re:Bike to work by the+grace+of+R'hllor · · Score: 1

      Bike to work slowly and relaxed, don't get your heart rate up to much.

      Bike home like the devil's chasing you, towards that shower and clean clothes.

    165. Re:Bike to work by baeksu · · Score: 1

      I can't comfortably ride to work every day, so instead I get up 1-2 hours earlier, and do my bike ride before going back home for breakfast and shower.

      Usually you'll notice that you spend at least some time in the evening doing unnecessary stuff (TV, web surfing). Instead of doing that, go to sleep earlier (I go to be at around 9pm), and you can get up quite early (4:30am for me).

      Early sleeping also cuts down drinking and late night snacking, which helps keep the fat off.

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    166. Re:Bike to work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you obviously have not done any weight training to make an absurd statement. The fastest way to lose weight is in fact to weight train PERIOD.

    167. Re:Bike to work by smellotron · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Just be careful to ALWAYS alert the bus driver when you're handling your bike, and ALWAYS maintain eye contact while doing so. There was a case in the last year somewhere in Illinois where the bus driver didn't pay attention, and ended up running over and dragging a cyclist who was getting his bike from the rack on the front of the bus.

    168. Re:Bike to work by taragui · · Score: 1

      I concur that aerobic training is the way to go if you are looking to lose some weight. If you absolutely must do it in the privacy of your home, then either a little investment is in order (a stationary bike, a treadmill) or you can try not to think of the preteen girl connotations and skip rope. It's an excellent cardio and coordination exercise, an essential part of the training of boxers and weightlifters, and quite exhilarating once you get the hang of it.

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    169. Re:Bike to work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Typically when someone says they are trying to lose weight they really want to lose fat (or at least they should just want to lose fat). You'll lose more fat in the long run doing both resistance training and cardio so you lose fat but also keep as much muscle you as you can. If you just do cardio, you'll burn off muscle and lower your metabolism over time, which is bad.

    170. Re:Bike to work by Adoxographer · · Score: 1

      That's interesting. I thought that cardio was just as good at raising BMR, but it looks like you're right.

      My trainer has been bullshitting me, and part of my previous post is rubbish.

      Congratulations, this may be the first time I learned something true on slashdot.

    171. Re:Bike to work by emjay88 · · Score: 0

      I have no problem with bikes sharing the road with cars and even having the same rights as motor vehicles - on the condition that they pay yearly registration to help maintain the roads.

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    172. Re:Bike to work by Adoxographer · · Score: 3, Informative

      Replying to myself.

      Quick literature review indicates hypertrophic more (not less) efficient at raising BMR.

      So I lied, sorry.

    173. Re:Bike to work by smellotron · · Score: 1
      ...especially with the costs these days...

      I shudder when people refer to "these days" or "these times". Are we somehow special? Is there something unique about the current economic condition that makes food so precious?

      Oh wait, it's just a bit more expensive. Because yeah, sometimes that happens in a non-command economy. Woe to us and our hard times, different from the hard times of our predecessors.

    174. Re:Bike to work by d3jake · · Score: 1

      Agreed. I have a nasty habit of being down by my computer more often than I should and getting outside for 45+ mins and biking is great! It also helps that I'm out in the country so there are a lot of open roads that I can take in different patterns to liven up the scenery.

    175. Re:Bike to work by sir+fer · · Score: 4, Insightful

      A lot of good suggestions here, but what you people are also missing (amongst other things) is the number of calories that get used up building extra muscle. It takes something like 24 calories to build a gram of muscle which would only yield 4 calories if eaten (insert cannibal jokes here), so there's a lot more to the weight-training-picture than all of the above posts take into account by focusing on the number of calories that get used in the activity.

      Also, people who only focus on calories are missing 90% of the nutrition picture. If calories were the only thing that mattered when it came to body composition, then we could all drink vegetable oil and eat sugar without any worries. There is a lot more to the nutritional picture than calories, such as vitamins, minerals and the "side effects" and chemical interaction of any food upon the body. For example one can obtain amino-acids from nuts or tobacco leaves but I can guess which one we would all prefer.

      When it comes to diet, just try and eat "clean" i.e. stay away from food you haven't prepared yourself and learn to read food labels. This will generally keep a lot of hidden crap out of ones diet. Learn to like rice, lean meats/fish, raw/lightly cooked veges and fruits. Eating a good deal of fibre and nutrient-rich food will go a long way toward moving ones body composition in a favourable direction, and in my experience will solve 90% of the problem

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    176. Re:Bike to work by rossdee · · Score: 1

      "those are not based at 100% conversion to energy."

      If anyone could convert even 50% of what they eat into energy, we wouldn't have to worry about importing oil, digging for coal, or even burning natural gas. 250 grams converted to energy is 6.25 billion Kwh

    177. Re:Bike to work by ruphus13 · · Score: 1

      IANAD, but from what I've read (and, I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night), you have until the age of 35 to build bone density. Depending on genetics, you might be prone to Osteoporosis (I'm taking a wild stab and assuming you are male, but in the very slim chance you are not, that too is another reason you might be prone), and you have to basically lift weights to build bone density (and have calcium in your diet). So, don't leave out the weights!

    178. Re:Bike to work by adrianmonk · · Score: 1

      I agree 100% that more muscle mass leads to a higher resting metabolic rate.

      However, please also consider this question: is strength training the only way to build (or maintain) muscle mass? I say that it isn't. If you do regular, intense aerobic exercise, that will have a significant effect on muscle mass as well.

      If you disagree, try doing several 5 mile runs a week, so that you're completing 5 miles in around 45 minutes, and so that you're hitting 20+ miles/week. From personal experience, you are going to have some muscle mass in your legs if you do that.

      And as a bonus, a good rule of thumb is that you burn about 100 calories per mile that you run. If you run 20 miles in a week, that's 2000 calories a week, which means you're losing 0.5 lb of weight every week compared to not running at all, just on the pure calories burnt while actually running.

    179. Re:Bike to work by mcrbids · · Score: 1

      I bike halfway to work - in California we have these "park and ride" lots, where you can drive to a transportation hub and catch public transit the rest of the way. My long commute and lack of bike trails near home make biking all the way to work impractical, but there's a beautiful bike trail along the 56 freeway that I can take once I get to the park and ride lot.

      Other than that, I stretch, do crunches, and do pushups every morning when I wake up. This is not only stay-in-shape exercise, it's also wake-me-up exercise - double benefits! On the weekents, I ride my bike to In N Out - the benefits may cancel out with the calories, but at least I'm getting exercise. :-)

      I'm a jogger, and I live in the California central valley. I am *not* a morning person. For 4-5 months out of the year, it's too hot to jog far, and that would be now. So I have a cheap-o treadmill I bought at Kmart on sale for about $70, and I run vigorously for one hour while watching my fave show for the day. (Currently, Junkyard Wars - go "High Flyers!")

      The rest of the year, I go for a jog around 9 PM or so for about 45 min to an hour. I'm a bit introvert, and don't like the whole 'health club' thing, either. But jogging is very much an individual thing. Grab an MP3 player, and pick some place you'd like to run to. It's great for thinking to yourself - I usually jog in a reverie, barely conscious of my environment beyond avoiding cars. It's really awesome when the endorphins kick in - I have, at times, been so overwhelmed with the joy of being alive, I've cried! It's an awesome feeling!

      Make sure you have good shoes, though. It's worth it to spend $100 on some good therapeutic running shoes. They'll last longer than you thought, and will prevent injuries to your hips and knees. (I'm 36, so it's not like it only happens to "old folks")

      Since somebody else brought it up, I weigh a bit over 200, and am just shy of 6', making my BMI around 27-28. I jog primarily because I have issues with blood sugar, and jogging sets everything "right". My doctor's told me that if I stopped jogging and taking care of myself, I'd be a out-n-out diabetic almost immediately!

      So I jog. I eat reasonably well, occasionally going on a conscious diet to lose a few pounds. More than just the blood sugar, it improves my whole sense of well-being. Very much worth it!

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    180. Re:Bike to work by EvanED · · Score: 1

      Anybody in here does DDR as an exercise? Care to share the experience?

      I did a couple summers ago. Between my living arrangements other times (dorm room == too small, and noisy floors for the last couple years) and being quite self-conscious has made it so this doesn't happen, but I plan on taking it up again after my upcoming move. I did it for about an hour a day almost every day, and not only is it actually fun (pretty much any other exercise I can do myself I don't like) but it seemed to work. My memories of that time are that when I went back to school I found myself getting winded easier and easier. Though could be an illusion or something.

    181. Re:Bike to work by NormalVisual · · Score: 1

      we could all drink vegetable oil and eat sugar without any worries

      Mmmm....Cool Whip....

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    182. Re:Bike to work by SuperQ · · Score: 1

      I bike to work just about every day. 7 miles round trip. It isn't a long distance, but I don't take it easy. Most days I sprint it fairly hard each way. It's a simple 12min workout.

      I need to set aside more weekends for longer 30+ mile trips.

    183. Re:Bike to work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Even better than prolonged aerobic exercise: HIIT: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-intensity_interval_training. 15 minutes of HIIT training per 2 days and 15 minutes with strength exercise does wonders for both body and fat percentage, requiring only 1,5 hour per week and no equipment.

    184. Re:Bike to work by Estanislao+Mart�nez · · Score: 1

      Of course a balanced workout including weight training is obviously the final goal. But if the immediate goal is weight loss, weight training isn't going to accomplish it nearly as fast as running or biking.

      I think we should be questioning the idea that the submitter should seek weight loss as an immediate goal; rather, s/he should be encouraged to adopt a complete exercise routine for the long term. In the end, long-term fitness is more important than immediate weight loss. And by fit, I mean the following distinct things, each of which requires a different kind of exercise:

      1. Cardiovascular capacity
      2. Muscle strength
      3. Flexibility
      4. Balance
    185. Re:Bike to work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Love the replies here. Who responds to facts cited from a reliable source with "I agree 100%" and "My HS bio teacher says it's true too!"?

    186. Re:Bike to work by chrisdotwood · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I've found that weight training is also a great way to relieve stress at the end of the day, infinitely more effective than alcohol which most people seem to prefer. For those that suffer with depression then exercise is by far the best way to overcome it. I took SSRIs for ages and they had next to no benefit. When I took up cycling and running regularly I started to feel better in a matter of weeks.

    187. Re:Bike to work by soulfury · · Score: 0

      I'm sorry you're an introvert.

      Introversion grants us insight into one's self.

    188. Re:Bike to work by MEGAMAID · · Score: 1

      I also agree with this one. Just under two years ago I was a porky 117 kgs (257 lb) and did almost no exercise except for a few token visits to the gym each week. Bought a push bike and haven't looked back since. Down to 87 kgs (191 lb) and falling. I'm now getting up at 5am for my daily commute to work and some extra training. After joining the local cycling club I've also started bike racing on the weekends. Also... endorphins, better than sex (which coincidently is much better now), they last longer.

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    189. Re:Bike to work by pthor1231 · · Score: 1

      There is a reason it is called a speed limit and not a minimum speed. Places that have minimum speeds, ala interstates, don't allow non-motorized traffic to travel on it. It's amazing how that works, eh?

    190. Re:Bike to work by fedxone-v86 · · Score: 1

      Why the cab? You could as well cycle back to pick up the SUV :D

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    191. Re:Bike to work by glitch · · Score: 2, Insightful

      As someone who was (and sometimes still is) intensely introverted, I think the grandparent post was simply nudging toward the fact that introversion can be stifling and is, in that sense, often unfortunate. In my view, anything that limits one's options is.

      I'm happy as an introvert being alone, but I'm happiest when I don't have the requirement of being alone to enjoy myself. KnowwhatImean?

      When it becomes an impediment (or inconvenience) to staying healthy, a person would be wise to not assume themselves permanently incapable of operating outside their current, relatively confined comfort zone. I think this is true in all areas of life and adapting/learning.

    192. Re:Bike to work by ILongForDarkness · · Score: 1
      I up until recently lifted weights frequently. If losing weight is your goal, my experience is it won't work, but in a good way I guess. I put on weight and lost muscle but I still weigh more than I should. I'm 6'3", my "ideal" weight should be around 190lbs, I way 225 (after slacking off for half a year). But here's the kicker I still have 186lb lean. Since you need a certain amount of fat (protects organs, helps balance blood sugar etc), I can't get to my "right" weight without loosing a lot of muscle.

      That said I think I look better than if I was my normal weight, and I can do things that I wouldn't be able to do otherwise, eg. move around 6U disk arrays by myself if needed :)

    193. Re:Bike to work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I do this routine after work... just need some dumbbells and a barbell.

      http://www.muscleandstrength.com/workouts/dumbbell-barbell-mass-workout.html

    194. Re:Bike to work by kitgerrits · · Score: 2, Funny

      Somehow, the thought of everyone carrying a portable nuclear reactor seems a bit bisturbing.

      How about a Mr Fusion in every car?
      Speaking of which, the 80s called, where IS my flying car?

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    195. Re:Bike to work by packeteer · · Score: 1

      In all seriousness if you are at 380 lbs and eating that little food i think i know what is wrong. When you eat so little your body becomes hyper efficient. You need to eat more to lose weight. Eat slightly more and start exercising longer and possibly easier. If you are shocking your body into thinking you are starving yet must work hard you will become very efficient. This will teach your body that body fat is very important because you live in times of starvation and overwork. You will never lose your fat until your body think you are living in the land of plenty.

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    196. Re:Bike to work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Rule of thumb: ride a bike like you drive, be assertive and know what's around you, signaling your intent.
      I rode to work 2 years, 40 miles a day round trip. Most accidents happen from people thinking a bicycle is able to bypass all traffic rules. Of course there's the obvious people who drive erratically and hit a cyclist on the road, but that's with any existence near the road.

      I can't do that anymore since I have a prosthetic leg from being hit in the side at 45 mph by a redlight-runner on my old motorcycle. In the end, it's all about what other people do.

    197. Re:Bike to work by Chrisje · · Score: 1

      Are you telling me that you work in an office that doesn't offer minimal services such as a shower, relaxation room, squash court and sauna?

      Hm. You must not work for HP Sweden then.

    198. Re:Bike to work by Stephan+Schulz · · Score: 1

      Do people just not sweat or something? I would never be able to bike to work and not offend people.

      For me, I just cycle in cycle clothing, cool down five minutes, and change into a fresh t-shirt at work. Of course, if you have a shower, even better. But I never found this necessary, and never had complaints. Fresh sweat does not smell, it only does so when it gets stale and bacteria start to decompose it. Most of the fresh sweat will be in your cycling jersey - have a few and change them daily.

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    199. Re:Bike to work by ion++ · · Score: 1

      If a normal bike is not comfortable enough, get a recumbent bike.

    200. Re:Bike to work by sir+fer · · Score: 1

      Yep bike accidents make up 2% of vehicle fatalities. What they fail to mention is that bikes make up 3% of all road vehicles.

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    201. Re:Bike to work by sir+fer · · Score: 1

      Well you could do all that...or just not sit on your nuts when you cycle...

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    202. Re:Bike to work by Chrisq · · Score: 1

      I used to work with an annoying guy like you. His wife would pack him sandwiches for lunch, but at about 10am he'd be hungry and eat them. At lunch he would go to the fish and chip shop and eat fried fish and chips. Halfway through the afternoon he would get hungry and buy a mars-bar from a snack machine.

      He was as skiney as a rake, and I have to make do with an apple at lunchtime to maintain my slightly overweight frame.

    203. Re:Bike to work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      exercising to eat more, probably will decrease your ultimate life expectantcy due to oxidation.

    204. Re:Bike to work by CapnOats.com · · Score: 0, Troll

      I've found a way to comabt this.

      Simply wait at the red until the cyclist pulls level with the front of your car, then give 'em a blast of the ol' horn. It helps if you're at the head of the queue. There's nothing funnier than watching a cyclist try to catch his breath as he wobbles across an empty junction in full view of thirty other pissed off motorists.

      Fun times.

    205. Re:Bike to work by Chrisq · · Score: 1

      If you are lucky enough to have an on-site gym you may well be able to use the showers for free. A greeny-cyclist where I work wrote a note to our HR department about the environment, corporate responsibility and how it would look good if they let him (and other cyclists) shower for free at the gym.

      The company actually did have a paragraph about this in a brochure where it discussed its "green credentials".

    206. Re:Bike to work by Chrisq · · Score: 1

      Some people have a very pungent body odour. I would not be able to do this... unless maybe I moved to France.

    207. Re:Bike to work by Simon+Brooke · · Score: 1

      Where do you live that you can bike to work without nearly getting run over on a constant basis?

      Anywhere. Cycling is not dangerous. According to the UK National Statistics Office, there is on average one fatal accident for every twenty one and a half million miles cycled. If you were to cycle ten miles every single day, it would be nearly six thousand years before you had a fatal accident. The UK isn't a particularly safe place to cycle - in Holland you're three times safer than that.

      What's more, cycling is twice as safe per thousand kilometers as walking - but you don't think walking is unacceptably dangerous, do you?

      I've personally cycled something like a quarter of a million miles, and I've never been hit by a car.

      Obviously, there are things you can do which make your cycling safer. They're mostly obvious -

      • Don't cycle in the doorzone near parked cars (a third of all cycling fatalities in London are caused by a cyclist being hit by an opened car door and being thrown into traffic).
      • Never cycle up the inside of a large vehicle waiting at traffic lights - another major cause of fatal accidents is when a large vehicle turns on a junction with roadside barriers, catching the cyclist between the vehicle and the barrier.
      • Don't cycle in the gutter or very close to the edge of the road - if you do, motor vehicles will try to pass you without changing lane, and you have nowhere to go when they get too close. Normally cycle in the 'primary position' - the centre of the lane - where drivers can see you clearly and where they have to change lanes to overtake you. That way, they don't pass you so close.

      Cycling is the ideal way for a geek to exercise. I can never be bothered to do exercises just for the sake of, and the idea of going to a gym leaves me completely cold. But cycling to work is fun, and gets the blood flowing.

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    208. Re:Bike to work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Absolutely. Having to add something extra to your day, like a gym session, or whatever is a drag. If you are like me you are busy enough already. You have to get to work anyway, so why not cycle? You save the money otherwise spent on public transport or (dare I say it) driving a gasoline driven vehicle.

    209. Re:Bike to work by init100 · · Score: 1

      Apparently the smell people associate with sweat is mostly bacteria being dispersed by the sweat.

      The smell comes from bacteria eating one of the two types of sweat. The sweat that comes from your armpits and your genitals contain a high percentage of fatty acids, which bacteria love. The rest of the body produces the other type of sweat, which contains mainly water and some salts. Bacteria aren't attracted to this type of sweat, and as a result it never smells.

    210. Re:Bike to work by Sobrique · · Score: 3, Informative
      This is very relevant. Conservation of energy applies to food intake, and energy 'use', however your body will 'conserve' energy when supplies are low, as famine protection - you'll just spend a few weeks being lethargic, weary and 'bleuggh', but not actually using very many calories at all.

      This is the major reason why eating a 'proper' breakfast is good - it 'signals' that you've got food, and are ready to do a full day of 'stuff', and hey, yeah, lets use some of those stored fat reserves, it'll be ok because there's food on hand.

    211. Re:Bike to work by Gori · · Score: 1

      That very much depends on the chick I guess...

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    212. Re:Bike to work by Simon+Brooke · · Score: 4, Informative

      I really hate the holier than thou attitude as well. I'll gladly share the road with cyclists... when they start going the speed limit instead of doing 20mph in the middle of the road with a posted 30 mph speed limit - thus holding everyone behind them up.

      This is a nonsense argument anyway, because in urban traffic a cyclist is almost always faster than a car. What's slowing you down is not cyclists, it's congestion. A cyclist uses a lot less road space than a car, so if everyone got out of their cars and onto bikes there would be a lot less congestion and everyone would get to their destinations faster (and in better temper).

      But - at least in the UK and most other English-speaking countries - cyclists use the road by right while motorists use it by license. The point about a license is you don't have a right - that it can be taken away from you.

      Motorists are allowed on the road as long as they play nice with the people who have a right to be there - and no longer.

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    213. Re:Bike to work by init100 · · Score: 1

      Other than that, I stretch, do crunches, and do pushups every morning when I wake up. This is not only stay-in-shape exercise, it's also wake-me-up exercise - double benefits!

      IIRC, there is another benefit: When you sleep, the body changes to consume a higher proportion of fat than during the day, when carbohydrates is the main energy source. By exercising right when you wake up, the body has not gone back to normal day mode, and those exercises consume more fat than they would do later in the day.

    214. Re:Bike to work by Gori · · Score: 1

      Most offices will have a shower somewhere in the building, at least they do over here. Just ask around, you will be surprised. Pack your neat clothes in saddle bags/backpack (roll them around a towel to prevent creasing) and you will be fine. Plus, it can save time in the morning, as there is no need for the morning shower, just have some breakfast and jump on the bike. You can even do the shave routine under the shower.

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    215. Re:Bike to work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      For extra geeky points, e-bike to work.

      Optionally, for extra autonomist points, install solar panels on the luggage rack to recharge.

    216. Re:Bike to work by Simon+Brooke · · Score: 2, Informative

      In Silicon Valley I can't imagine the thought of biking to work. It's way too dangerous, the bike lanes are often missing, and there's no easy way to change lanes...

      As an alternative, walking is easy to do.

      Statistically, cycling is approximately twice as safe as walking. Counter-intuitive, but true.

      (and what's with the idiot bike riders who don't even follow traffic rules?)

      (sigh) They're selfish idiots. There are selfish idiots in all groups of people.

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    217. Re:Bike to work by init100 · · Score: 1

      It's only old sweat that really stinks.

      And not all old sweat either. The watery sweat on your forehead or on your lower arms never smell, fresh or old. The smelly sweat is the (fatty) sweat that was produced in your armpits and in your crotch, and has been left to "ripen" for some time. The "ripening" is actually bacteria eating the fatty acids in the sweat, and producing the smelly substances as a side effect.

    218. Re:Bike to work by sir+fer · · Score: 1

      Can you quantify or even qualify "better"? I used to be in extremely good shape but now just do a bit of exercise here and there to avoid atrophy and haven't noticed the difference to be honest.

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    219. Re:Bike to work by c0p0n · · Score: 4, Informative

      The answer to weight lifting vs cardio is to do both. Alternate cardio days with weight lifting days. Your muscles repair and grow both in size and strength when you are resting, so you need some days off. For example, my workout consists on mon/thurs cardio & core, tues/fri weight training. So if you workout your legs, heart & core one day, they will be in repair mode the next while you're exercising a different set of muscles.

      Food is equally important, for it affects directly your performance in everything. You need to eat MASSES of veg and salad and fruits. And by MASSES I mean they have to be the bulk of your diet. Don't consume many carbs the days you're working out, do mostly veg & protein. No fats. Replenish the days you're resting with eating a bit more carbs. Brown rice, wholewheat bread, cereals such as oats, porridge, wheetabix.

      Have breakfast in the form of cereals I said earlier. Eat some protein right after working out. If you feel peckish, nibble on apples. Leave bananas and melon fo "once in a while" as they contain masses of sugar, nevertheless you still need to eat them. Substitute meat by white or blue fish. Eat oily fish twice a week; red meat once, white meat twice.

      Water. At least 2 litres a day, specially when you workout. Reason being, all the fat & energy your body is burning leaves debris, and guess how you expel it... hydration is not also important for that, but also to keep your brain's and body performance; and your skin will be so much better. Water. Not diet coke, yes? And forget by the way about coke & fanta. 125kcal every 1/3 litre (one can). Dude, that is well bad. It takes 12m on a medium sized person running at 9 km/h to burn all that.

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    220. Re:Bike to work by sir+fer · · Score: 1

      It feels great.

      Yep. WHo needs crack when you've got endorphins? ;o)

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    221. Re:Bike to work by Redlemons · · Score: 1

      I wouldn't know for sure, but I'd guess that weight-lifting burns more calories *after* the exercise --re-building muscle tissue etc. That said, I feel a lot more "exercised" and "refreshed" after a good swim than I do after the gym.

    222. Re:Bike to work by sir+fer · · Score: 1

      No I will not do that with your goat!

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    223. Re:Bike to work by c0p0n · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Forgot to explain the reason of why having breakfast and in general avoiding to be hungry is important. First, you've got less of a temptation to go to the kebab shop. Second, when your body "sees" a steady supply of high quality energy (fruits, slow energy releasing carbs such as brown pasta, brown rice, proteins in form of some nuts etc) it is less likely to store energy right away in the form of fat to preempt any future starvation. To accomplish this, have your normal 3 meals a day (bfast, lunch, dinner) and have some nibbles (fruit & nuts are great for this but don't overdo the nuts as they are fairly high in calories per volume, that's the reason I mostly nibble on apples & pears) between them before you feel hungry, after a while doing it you will know when to nibble as your body will be very regular in asking you for some more food.

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    224. Re:Bike to work by KGIII · · Score: 5, Insightful

      There are some great ideas here as you say but there are also some dangerous ones from my learning experiences. I will quantify/qualify...

      I went through about 13 years as a NON-PROFESSIONAL body builder. Not a weight lifter. (spacing intentional) At my peak I managed to hit 198 pounds with a 3% body fat. (For those interested in the perspective I'm a hair under 5' 10" tall.) At that time I was spending two to four hours a day in a gym and actually striving to get in a couple hours a day of some other heavy physical activity such as running or playing a sport. It was an obsession, prior to this I had been fat.

      I will NOT say that I know what I'm talking about because at 33 years old I suddenly started getting chubby but, by that time, I was already down to 172 pounds, not muscle, but chub. If I'd chopped the chub off (cardio) I'd have been nothing but 152 pounds.

      There are reasons at both ends of the spectrum for me.

      The first is diet and exercise. I ate well, I ate a lot. I ate healthy. During build cycles I'd consume 10k calories a day and think nothing of it. (I still love me some peanut butter.)

      The second, latter days, is due to lack of diet and lack of exercise.

      Today I've gotten to a healthy weight of 165.5 pounds (went to the doctor's this week) and pretty much sit there. I'd estimate that I engage in some sort of low impact exercise two to three times per week.

      However, I only eat two meals a day and only have two snacks per day. My caloric intake from beer is enough to maintain the weight and my limited activity keeps me from sagging.

      I would say that diet, nothing else, is more important than any other aspect of weight control. For each person it WILL be different. The idea that we, as geeks, can apply metrics is patently absurd because the human body ranges in scope from person to person to such wildly different degrees that we simply can't.

      This being said, I'm not a doctor and a doctor is the best choice to start with. Look to see what you're healthy enough to do and to find the best methods to achieve your weight control goals. To put it into geek terms there is no right choice nor a better choice for an OS/app but the one that works best for you. In my case it has always been diet constraints/allowances as the single most important factor.

      For anyone else it may be different.

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    225. Re:Bike to work by awdau · · Score: 1

      What about ppl that have a medical condition (ie epilepsy) which precludes them from swimming, biking, climbing?
      Even running outside is something I've got to be carefull about.

    226. Re:Bike to work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not well muscled, a person with a high lean muscle mass (they are different)

    227. Re:Bike to work by Bugbear1973 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Cycling to work is a great way to keep fit, or at least justify eating more 'fuel'.
      As far as being an introvert, cycling is actually a perfect activity. You don't need to wait for anyone to go for a ride.
      Try not to get bitten by the bug though. My plan was to use cycling to save on transport costs. Instead I've got my eye on a second carbon fibre bike (AU$3000 or so!) for dry weather, and after two and half years, I've yet to recoup my expenditure on the original bike, plus the myriad of accessories...but I just love riding to work now!!!!

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    228. Re:Bike to work by Oktober+Sunset · · Score: 1

      If you cycle like a scally on a BMX there's no risk at all, cos your crotch doesn't even get near your saddle. ;)

    229. Re:Bike to work by Oktober+Sunset · · Score: 1

      cycle slowly?

    230. Re:Bike to work by Mattsson · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I totally agree.
      I do about equal amount of driving, cycling and skateing to work, depending on the weather and how much time I've got.

      I always cycle and skate as if I'm driving a car.
      Why? Because I fall under the same traffic rules as cars.

      99% of the cyclist around me doesn't. They dont stop for redlight, they turn without signaling, they go the wrong way on one way streets, don't respect right of way, etc, etc.
      Some even get annoyed and shout at me when I stop to let cars cross when it is my duty to stop!
      People who skate tend to be even worse!

      There should be a license required to operate a bike, so that all cyclists at least have the required knowledge of the traffic rules.

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    231. Re:Bike to work by Mattsson · · Score: 1

      Solution 1.
      Bring a change of clothes and see if the janitor doesn't have a room with a shower you can borrow.

      Solution 2.
      Set out a bit earlier so that you don't have to cycle as fast and bring a change of clothes in case you do get a bit sweaty anyway.

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    232. Re:Bike to work by j_sp_r · · Score: 1

      In the Netherlands we all bike to work, and this isn't a problem. You just cycle somewhat slower and when your healthy you won't sweat at all. Or just take a deodorant with you, not that heavy.

    233. Re:Bike to work by Goldberg's+Pants · · Score: 1

      What has my goat ever done to you?

    234. Re:Bike to work by mxs · · Score: 3, Funny

      It's not like it's a disease, bad in anyway, or meaning that one does not enjoy being outside. It's probably different for everyone - for me it means that I don't like being in crowds and am more likely to relax being alone or with (a few) close friends.

      You know what would be great ? All us introverts should get together some time. No party people allowed. And then we'll have a party. In other news, I may need medication :P

    235. Re:Bike to work by aliquis · · Score: 1

      Where to start?

      Why should he eat only vegetables and protein on workout days and lots of carbs on rest days? Would be nice to see the source for that advice ... If everything the muscles can pick up food without insuline after working out and you refill your glucogen storages better at this time to, so why shouldn't he eat lots of carbohydrates on workout days? Also what's this stupid "no fat" advice?
      Time and time again it's been proven that a higher fat energy percent improves your body composition, not the opposite.

      Let him eat whatever breakfast he prefer, porridge or cooked food would be fine to, personally I most often eat bread and tea because I like it ..

      Why should he eat apples but not banans and melons? Almost all fruit have lots carbohydrates in the form of sugars in them, apples does to, so what? Melons are LOW in total energy content and have much nutrition in them.
      http://www.nutritiondata.com/facts/fruits-and-fruit-juices/1954/2
      The sugar vs should still eat them is an advice for all kinds of fruits.

      Red meat and especially processed things like sausage and such isn't that good no chicken and fish are better. Personally I'm vegan so neither of them for me of course.

    236. Re:Bike to work by aliquis · · Score: 1

      It's true that one will look for a fast solution if one are very hungry, but if one aren't it doesn't matter so much if you eat 2 or 3 meals per day or 6-8 ..

      Doesn't matter if he eats nuts aslong as his daily calorie intake remains the same, probably better for his form than fruit.

      Of course he can't eat kilos of nuts per day.

    237. Re:Bike to work by aliquis · · Score: 1

      I have no idea what the numbers come from, but no matter what no ones body unless you have some serious disease would waste the food, the "boho my body picks up everything I eat, my friend can eat pizzas and still remain thin."

      No shit fatso! He only eats one pizza per day and nothing else, not 10 or fill it up with a lot of other stuff.

      An olympic lifter at the gym weights in at 160 kg and complain how his body picks everything up, and then he goes to the store buying 1 kg of winegums and 2 litre of ice cream for "dessert" after his meal (he buy 1 kg because it's like 1 sek less / kg than if he had bought the 500 gram bags.)

      Boohoo, poor him.

    238. Re:Bike to work by aliquis · · Score: 1

      Doesn't fat weight take something like 4 kcal / day and kilo at rest? Yeah, big deal ..

      Of course a 380 lbs blob will use quite some amounts of energy if he starts moving.

    239. Re:Bike to work by aliquis · · Score: 1

      To tone doesn't matter, but the amount of work they push themself thru at the gym. Also the smaller guy probably try to increase his body mass so that's why he eats so much.

    240. Re:Bike to work by aliquis · · Score: 1

      Of course cardio use more energy than not doing cardio, but that doesn't matter since you can just as well eat less and for most of us eating less is a smaller sacrifice than having to do lots of cardio.

      Cardio does not increase your fat metabolism (in percent so to speak.)

      And you need to do weight lifting to keep your muscles.

      So if your body use 2500 kcals per day and you choose to do what you do and only eat 2000 for a 500 kcal deficiency or if you choose to do 1000 kcal of cardio and eat 3000 kcal for a 500 kcal deficiency won't matter.

      But if you don't do weight lifting you'll probably end up with less muscle then you are done, which isn't good for your metabolism or looks.

      Also people don't get more muscle mass while on an energy deficiency, beginners maybe, or very lucky people, but not regular people who have been working out for some time.

    241. Re:Bike to work by aliquis · · Score: 1

      But how much energy you burn doesn't matter. The only thing which matters are how much you burn vs how much you eat.

      1480-223 = 1257.

      If we had the same body and I'd go with weight lifting for a 500 deficiency and you wen't with cardio and ate 1257 kcals more than me per day my body would still look better in the end.

    242. Re:Bike to work by u38cg · · Score: 1

      Sorry, but before you get on your high horse about wasting food, sort out the rich world's insistence on farm subsidies. Once the 3/4 of the planet that doesn't grow food efficiently because it can't access a market gets up and running, food waste will not be able to be an issue.

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    243. Re:Bike to work by aliquis · · Score: 2, Informative

      The most important thing is to increase BMR.

      No, the most important is to not eat more than you burn.

      This can be done by exercising at about three quarters of your maximum for 20 minutes every few days.

      Sounds like some "fat burn zone" / cardio increasing pulse. Which is more bullshit. doing some low intensity work will burn a higher percentage of fat while doing so, but your body will burn less fat the rest of the day and thereby compensating for it.
      Doing high intensity training in intervals are most efficient for increasing your cardio.

      Most of the calories you burn through exercise are usually burned while you aren't exercising because of raised BMR.

      This is bullshit to, cardio and weight training don't make you use much more energy at rest, the most difference is while you're doing the activity. Weight training increase it more, but it's only by a few kcals, not a big deal.

      Hypertrophic (muscle building exercise) isn't as efficient at raising your BMR

      Wrong, but you already know that.

      The first is raising lean body mass which means to use more energy moving

      On an energy deficiency you're very unlikely to build more muscle even if you do weight lifting.

      oxygenating your tissue et cetera

      Means what?

      The second is the relatively large amount of energy it takes to metabolise dietary protein into muscle tissue. IIRC a gram of muscle takes more energy to make than a gram of fat, and that's even discounting the protein required.

      1 gram of carbohydrates or protein contains around 4 kcal of energy, alcohol 7 and fat 9.

      It's true that body thermogenesis raises a little more from eating protein, I don't remember how much but maybe 15% or so of the energy is wasted this way. (The energy from the protein, not from all food.)

      Spending equal time on each (up to the point of diminishing returns for hypertrophic exercise) will lower your weight faster than spending all of the time on aerobic. Additionally, if aesthetics are an issue you may wish to replace the decreasing fat with something else so you don't end up a thin but saggy skin bag.

      If doesn't matter what you do, what matters is how much you eat. Workout for 12 hours per day and eat a lot of food and you can still remain huge, sit in the couch and eat very little food and you will get smaller.

      I'd recommend biking or similar for cardio. Plus pilates for all-over tone, strength and posture. Plus free weights for increasing muscle mass.
      If you had to pick one I'd say pilates as it gives both aerobic and hypertrophic in roughly equal amounts, and a decent video will show how to vary the exercises to make them more or less strenuous.

      I'd say do what you think is fun if all you want to do is burn energy, bike trips, walks, running, inlines, skiing, golf, badminton, volleyball, doesn't matter. If you don't care about being able to run for 5 miles without starting to walk or such you don't need to do shit.
      Intensive training will be best for increasing cardio, so running at high intensity in intervals, or doing the same thing with weights, or swimming as fast and hard as you can for a while, rest and then go at it again, or whatever you want will work best.

      Pilates? Isn't that for girls? Decent as core training.

      Free weights won't increase your muscle mass on an energy deficiency, use them to KEEP muscle while losing fat or to get MORE muscle without getting AS MUCH fat when eating on a surplus.

      I'd choose weight training as the single one, because it's the only one which will build your body as good as it can. It may not get you super cardio but decent enough if you keep your rest times short.

    244. Re:Bike to work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you are focusing on immediate results. Cardio does not increase you resting metabolism -- which the above link doesn't take into account. What this means that you will burn less calories immediately, but overall you will burn more calories per day.

      Now I am not suggesting one or the other. My workout plan uses both. I run on the odd day, and I do weights on the other. I also eat very well. This will increase lean mass (good weight), while reducing fat.

      Some notes about weight training, make sure you do all muscle groups (it doesn't have to be all in the same day, you can spread it across the week.), and remember, there is not such thing as spot training.

      The weight around the waist is, unfortunately, the last place most guys loose fat. So the results may not be immediate. try to keep one self motivated and active.

      Just some info about me. I am currently 23. I am a programmer/mathematician. I work out every day. I am a nerd in every sense of the word. When I first started working out I weighed 230 lbs, when I was 18, then dropped down to 150lbs within the first few years. Not to toot my own horn, but I am pretty defined -- which doesn't hurt when you're a single male.

    245. Re:Bike to work by aliquis · · Score: 1

      The bad part of eating crap isn't as much how it effects your body composition as if is that it's crap and don't have any nutritional value.

    246. Re:Bike to work by Sobrique · · Score: 1

      Since i can't tolerate asperatame (headaches) that means i'm stuck with sucralose or stevia for low carb flavored drinks. luckily a very nice sucralose based powdered drink mix is on the market under 2 brand names propel, and fulfill. for $2.50/10 pack and $2/10 pack respectively. This is my primary daily drink although i'm likely getting over vitaminized by this but they're water soluble vitamins... /BLOCKQUOTE You realise that water is actually pretty low carb, right? Actually, if you're drinking _cold_ water, it has a negative amount of energy.

    247. Re:Bike to work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Agreed a lot. Cycling briskly the ten miles or so per day to and from work and taking a longer (30-60 mile) ride with a club every couple of weeks on a Sunday has lost me a bunch of weight and made me fit enough to do a 120 mile overnight ride quite comfortably.

    248. Re:Bike to work by Karem+Lore · · Score: 1

      I find it quite hard to cycle down my stairs to my office though!

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    249. Re:Bike to work by Sobrique · · Score: 1
      Diets aren't something you do, and then stop. Changing your diet will alter your equilbrum weight, and it may converge your overall mass at a new level (this does take a lot of time, typically).

      But go back to the old diet, and you'll go back to the old weight, too.

    250. Re:Bike to work by Nursie · · Score: 1

      No it isn't.

      The caloric content is the energy you get for complete combustion of something, measured in a bomb calorimeter.

      Now, if you want to go the other way and say the daily intake guidelines are based on soft figures about how many calories people can extract, or that the figures for how much energy someone burns when doing exercise may well vary from person to person, then go ahead.

      But calories are a scientific measurement.

    251. Re:Bike to work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Have they showers at work?

      My employers don't have a shower. But I don't stink. (I hope!)

      I take my fold-up bike most of the way on the train, then cycle the remainder. Then in the office I clean with baby-wipes.

    252. Re:Bike to work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just like you can't make a green oasis of a field from parched desert from an hour's rain, you can't stink from an hour's exercise right out of the shower.

      Oh yes, you can. This was a recurring annoyance to me until I figured out the culprit and started waxing the armpits (they are worst in that respect). Not much fun the first few times round if you have a thicket there, but a comparatively low maintenance option and quite effective in rooting out the stench reservoirs. I found them pretty impervious to showering.

      The disadvantage of waxing for aesthetic reasons is that you need to have a certain length grow back before the next time.

      But that's not much of a concern if all you are after is stench control: a light down is not much harm then.

    253. Re:Bike to work by Archtech · · Score: 1

      Unfortunately, it turns out the parent has a point. My experience is similar, though less dramatic. Rising 60 years old (so with slower metabolism), I am 6 foot 4 inches and weigh about 245 pounds. Every day (unless the weather is really severe) I walk a fairly brisk 7 miles, occasionally increasing this to 10, 15, or even over 20 miles. I then eat 100 grams of muesli with a little skim milk (and at this time of year a few spoonfuls of mixed berries) and drink a glass of fruit juice. Later, I eat some more fruit - say a couple of apples, an orange, maybe a banana. For dinner I eat some fish, chicken, or occasionally a little red meat, with plenty of vegetables and occasionally wholewheat pasta. Never more than will fit on a standard dinner plate with room to spare. No seconds, no dessert, no sweets, cakes, or cookies. Apart from copious tea, coffee, and moderate alcoholic beverages, that's about it.

      My goal is to consume no more than about 2000 calories per day, while my walk should burn up well over 1000. Net intake, therefore, should be around 1000. The UK government says a man of my size and age needs about 2300 calories to maintain weight; amusingly, the US government cites a much higher figure.

      In the last three months, I have lost a grand total of 6 pounds. Exactly 2 pounds each month, by the way. According to all the "expert" information I have read, this too is impossible. My reply is the same as the bumblebee's when the experts proved it couldn't fly - "Eppur si muove"! If theory contradicts the facts, then the theory is inadequate - which, in this case, it plainly is.

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    254. Re:Bike to work by xalorous · · Score: 5, Informative

      I think you are trying to say that one should strive for balance between weight/resistance training and aerobic excercise?

      I'm male, approaching 40. At 30 I joined the armed forces and had an ongoing battle with weight and fitness for 4 years until I left. I learned (in no particular order after the first one):
      1. To lose weight requires that you burn more calories than you consume.
      2. After 30, men need to lift weights to maintain muscle mass.
      3. Don't run two days in a row.
      4. Muscle burns more calories than fat.
      5. If you dramatically increase your exercise, your appetite will increase.
      6. Change gradually and consult a physician.
      7. Running shoes are not one size fits all.
      8. "Fat burns in a fire fueled by carbs" (don't go on 0 carb diets, you'll burn muscle mass before you burn fat.)

      Sensible portions at meals, avoid sugary foods and highly processed flour, eat balanced meals, err towards more fruit and green leafy vegetables, exercise for stress relief and burning calories.

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    255. Re:Bike to work by GeffDE · · Score: 5, Informative

      Actually, the caloric content of food is measured by a bomb calorimeter, which simply burns the food until it is completely oxidized. To extract the maximum amount of energy, the body must do the same thing, which is what occurs through the metabolic pathway of glycolysis -> krebs cycle -> electron transport chain for sugars; beta-oxidation -> krebs cycle -> ETC for fats; and protease digestion -> reduction to pyruvate/acetyl CoA -> krebs cycle -> ETC for proteins. These pathways result in the food being broken down into water and carbon dioxide, the same end-products from the bomb calorimeter. In chemistry, the total energy derived from a chemical reaction (or set of chemical reactions) is given by the equation: Delta_Energy = Energy(in bonds of reactants) - Energy(in bonds of products). The body cannot extract more energy than this, and that is exactly what the bomb calorimeter is measuring. The caloric content of foods is based on the total amount of energy that can be derived from a food product.*

      Now, if our AC troll friend can derive more energy from food than the bomb calorimeter can, he is, quite literally, Mr. Fusion.



      * As such, it follows that people do not actually require 2000 kCal (on average) per day; however, that is how much energy needs to be in the food so that the ~35% efficient catabolic pathways can derive enough useful energy from the food to power the body. 35% efficiency is extremely high (the most efficient internal combustion engines get ~25-30%); it is the result of literally billions of years of evolution because deriving energy from a substrate is a requirement of life, so the whole complicated mess has been around from the beginning. Therefore, Nature has optimized the crap out of it. Unless Mr. Fusion up there has different catabolic pathways than the rest of life on earth there is no way that he could be that more efficient than everyone else.

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    256. Re:Bike to work by dkleinsc · · Score: 1

      Or walk (if you live even closer). Or take a Sunday afternoon and take a longer walk in a public area.

      Low-intensity exercise is always a good choice of activities, and is sure a lot healthier than, say, posting on /.

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    257. Re:Bike to work by berboot · · Score: 1

      Ahaa, I got it in reverse, thanks. I never was too good at biology.

    258. Re:Bike to work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      and makes you better than everyone else.

      I think the diesel fumes have got to your head.

      You are not better than anyone, you are just in the way with your childrens toy method of transport. If you want to exercise walk and stop pissing off proper road users.

    259. Re:Bike to work by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      Substitute meat by white or blue fish.

      Huh? Is this an Americanism for something else? I've never seen a blue fish, and if I did I wouldn't eat it.

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    260. Re:Bike to work by Chutulu · · Score: 1

      lucky you...

      in my gym people are always talking out loud about the latest football matches (that's soccer to you). But that's what you get when you go to a gym where almost everyone wants to be huge in order to be a security guard in night clubs.

    261. Re:Bike to work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Some people have lower metabolisms. I am one of them. IT work, sitting in front of the keyboard most of the day, intake of 2000 kcals a day maks me put on weight. 1500kcals make me stay stable. 1200 kcals make me loose weight. Cycling and walking doesn't help with the weight but if I do them regularly, I feel better and fitter.

    262. Re:Bike to work by madbawa · · Score: 1

      I used to do that. But no surprise, I started getting symptoms of hypertension. This was a direct result of biking on the road among all the horrible traffic. Here in India, especially in Bombay (as in other metros), car drivers honk endlessly, auto (cab) drivers are inconsiderate and bus drivers swerve to the left to stop and then go to the right to speed. Not to mention scores of pedestrians that haplessly pop up when you least expect. Potholes on the roads make the situation worse for your shoulders and back. In the monsoons (rainy season for those who are unaware), it gets even worse since almost every vehicle will splash you with muddy water. So, although I love to bike, I just can't. Luckily, my office is close enough to where I live so that I can walk to work in about 20 minutes. So daily, that makes up a good 40 minutes of walking. And I start slow for the first 5 minutes and then increase my pace to a nice brisk step.

    263. Re:Bike to work by Cormacus · · Score: 1

      Its not so much the frequency, but the consequences of what happens if you *do* get hit. I bet if someone looked up the statistics, you'd find you're less likely to turn into ketchup paste if hit by a car when you're in one rather than on a bicycle.

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    264. Re:Bike to work by GeffDE · · Score: 1

      Hookay, bub. It seems like I've been playing Whack-a-mole with morons recently.

      The quoted value is calculated using the Mufflin equation, which is regarded as among the best in the business (and assuming that the guy was young and short as both of these characteristics lower the caloric need. If he's actually 70 and 6'6", then that number is much higher. Additionally, the Mufflin equation is valid independent of diet. Now, if you look into what the Mufflin equation actually calculates, you will realize that 2700 calories/day is how much the body requires for just existing, doing no physical or mental activity. He goes on to talk about an hour's walk (which amounts to ), and 2 hours of combined aerobic and strength training 5 days a week. The energy required by these activities alone probably gets close to how many calories the guy ingests in a day.

      In short, the numbers don't add up. The body's low-calorie adaptations cannot get around the fact that doing all the exercise he claims to be doing requires energy, and it would appear that it requires more energy than he ingests in a day. Ergo, the body would have to derive energy from his fat stores and he would lose the fat.

      Your claim that I cannot possibly know the AC is exaggerating without empirical testing is wrong; this is exactly why scientists have bothered to write equations to describe natural processes. Using those equations, anyone can determine that the AC described an impossible situation.

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    265. Re:Bike to work by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      Statistically, cycling is approximately twice as safe as walking. Counter-intuitive, but true.

      That's probably because the "walkers" include three year children chasing fairies, doddery old grannies who've lost their hearing aid and glasses, and pant-wetting drunks trying to race buses with one shoe missing.

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    266. Re:Bike to work by Daengbo · · Score: 1

      Eating 2-3 meals a day means that your insulin levels aren't stable and that leads to storing fat. The more meals you eat, the more stable your insulin is.

    267. Re:Bike to work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Real Geeks ebike to work! http://www.endless-sphere.com/forums

    268. Re:Bike to work by xaxa · · Score: 1

      If you can get it (try the European/British section at a supermarket) I suggest squash rather than half a litre of soda a day. It's a bit like Kool-Aid, except it's a liquid concentrate and it's usually made from real fruit and sugar rather than artificial chemicals and sweetener.
      In the UK there's a big range, from cheap stuff with only 10% fruit juice and aspartame, right through to ones made with organic fruit and sugar in a fancy glass bottle. I don't know how much sugar there is compared to a soda, but I always dilute it about twice as much as they suggest anyway.

      Failing that, there's water :-)

    269. Re:Bike to work by fprintf · · Score: 1

      I have a HR monitor with my Garmin Edge 305 cycling computer. I do not know if it specifically correlate heart rate to calories burned. Yesterday it was reporting that for a 18 mile ride in just over an hour (17.7 mph) at my current weight of 187 pounds that I burned just over 1200 calories. My tracking software, SportTracks, recalculated it to just over 1000 calories.

      I don't know, I always just used 40 calories per flat mile. It may be conservative, and it definitely doesn't account for the cubed increase in power needed to raise speed, but it works to help balance out what I eat. www.bikeforums.net has a whole training/nutrition section with some *very* knowledgable people and even they can't agree on the right on-bike methodology for measuring calories burned. (they can in a lab, however)

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    270. Re:Bike to work by reovirus1 · · Score: 1

      Get an ebike. Check out http://www.ebikes.ca/ and http://www.endless-sphere.com/forums. I had the same problem, no showers, must dress professionally etc. With the ebike, I use the throttle going to work, charge at the office and pedal like a mad man on the way home. Don't pay for gas, don't pay for parking, its a hell of a good way to commute.

    271. Re:Bike to work by egyptiankarim · · Score: 1

      Well, that's only an opinion reached through a personal cost-benefit analysis.

      Perhaps finding a new job and home is easier than the alternatives for some other people.

      Or perhaps some people realize that just because something is hard doesn't mean it shouldn't be pursued as an option.

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    272. Re:Bike to work by gbjbaanb · · Score: 1

      perhaps its because of all those killer cyclists out there.

      cycling is still good for you though, just don't let it go to your head so you think you have right of way over everyone else.

    273. Re:Bike to work by xaxa · · Score: 1

      Nutrition data: I just made myself a glass of orange squash, and weighed how much I used. 35ml of decent-quality concentrated squash (containing 14g sugar) went into a 300ml glass (along with 270ml of tap water). 300ml of regular Pepsi contains 33g sugar, but the same amount of Tango (carbonated orange juice drink) contains just 13g sugar. So it really depends which soda you choose.

    274. Re:Bike to work by Muziqhed · · Score: 1

      I am all for any type of physical exercise, as I believe that people spend too much time on their tech-saavy butts these days. However, the idea that lifting weights doen't burn that many calories is as misinformed and off-target as the "All-Mr. Pibb and Pizza" diet. I don't mean to be rude, but seriously: you might want to read up on the stuff before doling out fitness advice.

    275. Re:Bike to work by ProppaT · · Score: 1

      I'm not sure if this is a joke or not but, if you are serious, I would seriously consider doing an elimination diet. It certainly sounds like there is a food allergy/intolerance at play. An easy and simple example of such would be something along the lines of Dr. Mark Hyman's UltraSimple diet. It doesn't have you doing anything too out there and, if you follow the advanced version of it where you bring in food items one by one, you'll discover what your body likes vs. what it doesn't like.

      Doing an elimination diet I found out that I have sensitivities to soy and dairy products. Once I totally removed dairy from my diet, it was like someone flipped a light switch. On the rare occasion I have it now, I definitely know it about 30 minutes after the fact. Before, I always felt lethargic and bloated and I never knew why. I can also easily loose weight and don't retain water now.

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    276. Re:Bike to work by ShannaraFan · · Score: 1

      Speaking of idiots, try this one on for size... One day last week, I was on my way home from work (on my bike). One stretch of the trip is on a paved bike trail through a wooded area, I've seen several deer, some wild turkeys, lots of wildlife. Anyway, last week, I'm riding through the woods, and ahead of me I see a slow-moving bike, weaving from side-to-side. I slow down, and yell ahead (twice) to announce that I'm passing - no response. I get close enough to see the rider and understand the problem - it's a teenager, riding a bike that's too small for him (knees hitting the handlebars), and HE'S TALKING ON A CELL PHONE!!!!! I thought I'd avoid cell-phone-distracted-drivers by getting off the road, apparently NOT!!!

    277. Re:Bike to work by GORby_ · · Score: 1

      I have to agree on that...

      I started commuting by bike a little over a year ago, and I feel better now than I did before. If riding a bike is giving you discomfort (other than sweating), try a recumbent... that did the trick for me.

      If you calculate the cost of your daily commute by car, and how long you have to work for that money, you might find that commuting by bike can even save you time. It helps when you're regularly stuck in traffic when you take the car, or when gas prices are ridiculously high (think 1,5 â/l (about $ 9 per gallon).

    278. Re:Bike to work by fprintf · · Score: 1

      For those with a medical condition, especially one as specific as epilepsy, I think your physician would have the best advice rather than Slashdot. I would venture to say that those with a medical condition comprise a very small percentage of non-exercisers, most are just not making healthy lifestyles a priority and get onto the downward spiral that eventually leads to them having the medical conditions that make exercising difficult.

      Good luck with your condition. I was once diagnosed with epilepsy as a child but either grew out of it, or was misdiagnosed. I was on Dilantin for almost the entire 1970s.

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    279. Re:Bike to work by famebait · · Score: 1

      Actually, a thorough round of moist wipes + deodorant to the armpits, while far from equivalent to a shower, will cut quite impressively into your BO unless it's been "maturing" for some time.

      If in addition you were squeaky clean and deodorized just an hour ago (and are not the naturally most smelly person. There are big differences), you might be OK. The fresh clothes are still a must, though.

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    280. Re:Bike to work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Get them to install a shower and be 10 minutes early. My work has a full bathroom for this, and they even supply a personal trainer once a week!

      Why do you need a personal trainer for the bathroom?

    281. Re:Bike to work by Daengbo · · Score: 1

      Except that your hour of casual cycling stops burning calories almost the moment you stop, while strength training (lifting to failure) means your body is spending energy to repair itself for two days.

      It also means that if I skip a workout, my body still burns more calories while the cardio guy just gets to watch TV.

    282. Re:Bike to work by fprintf · · Score: 1

      Haha, that is not a hill, just a slight incline. It is funny what some Texans call hills. Last year some of our local riders went to Texas to do a 5 day, 500 mile ride. They came back with all kinds of stories about the "warnings" they were given on a few days of the "hills" they were going to ride through. A few of them asked where the hills were and were told that they had just been through them.

      But it is all perspective. I am in Connecticut and I consider some of our hilly rides very difficult. Yet last year (same time as the TX group) I rode from CT to Pennsylvania and got a taste of what some really steep hills were like in the Poconos. And yet, someone from Colorado might laugh at what I struggled up.

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    283. Re:Bike to work by jridley · · Score: 1

      I bike to work every day, 22 miles a day (actually closer to 30 right now with some construction I'm avoiding). Summer and winter (studded tires in the winter). I started out partially as exercise, partially as ecological friendliness. Those are still pertinent reasons, but now I add to it that I love it so much more than driving. I honestly hate days that I have to drive, and avoid them if possible. I probably only drive 4 or 5 days a year, if I have something big to carry.

      I love getting outside. I hate riding in groups; I keep getting asked but I ride partially to get away from people.

      Check out bikeforums.net, particularly the commuting forum. You'll find that people credit bicycling with much better health, physically and mentally. I know that when I go on vacation for more than a week, by the end of it I'm starting to feel really lousy due to lack of vigorous exercise. I assume that this "lousy" is what non-exercising people call "normal".

      There's always someone who claims it's too dangerous; the statistics indicate that the lifetime benefits outweigh the risks by 20:1 - for every year taken off the life of a bicyclist by accident, 20 years are added to bicyclists lives by not getting cancer, heart disease, etc due to the increased cardio exercise.

    284. Re:Bike to work by jridley · · Score: 1

      Do a search on bikeforums.net. There are many people there that have come up with solutions to this. You can be surprisingly fresh if you take a shower BEFORE you leave home (stink comes from bacteria on your skin, NOT from sweat - sweat is odorless) - and then using baby wipes in a bathroom when you get there.

      Others have found that they can buy a "showers only" membership in a nearby gym, or that there is a hidden shower in the maintenance area they could get permission to use, etc. Most people who really try find a way.

      If it's less than 4 or 5 miles and at least on non-hot-sweaty days of the year, you can just take it easy and not be sweating much when you get there. This works for some people. Some of us sweat almost instantly though.

    285. Re:Bike to work by ShannaraFan · · Score: 1

      Couldn't agree more. I've made the 12-mile round trip 8 times this summer (I'm counting because my wife/kids didn't think I would stick with it). The first time, I thought I was going to die. Took over an hour to make the 6-mile trip to work, my legs were on fire, I could barely stand up when I got to the office. I had my wife pick me up at the end of the day. For the next three days, my legs and my ass were so sore that I could barely walk, I was HURTING. About a week later, I decided to try it again - this time, I made it to the office in decent shape, I couldn't believe the difference. The ride home wasn't as good, I ended up walking the last half of it. I tried again the next week, and now I've completed the round trip 8 times. Unlike the first trip, I can now make the journey with no pain, no rubber legs, no saddle-sores, nothing - I hop off the bike feeling like I just finished a brisk walk. It's amazing how much my body has adapted to the effort.

      I don't ride every day. I have to avoid rain, as I don't have the proper gear to keep my laptop dry (I didn't want to spent a bunch of money until I knew how this was going to work out). I also have days where I need to do something after work, kid appointments, errands, whatever. There are also days where I just don't want to ride, but I'm getting at least one ride in a week, which is better than nothing.

    286. Re:Bike to work by jridley · · Score: 1

      There are bike garment bags that can easily transport a suit without wrinkling it.

      Many gyms have "shower only" memberships that are really cheap. You might have to ask about it, they probably don't publish it.

      If the gym is within 2 miles of work, it's certainly possible to ride that distance without getting sweaty at all; just take it easy.

      It's not about losing weight, it's about becoming fit. Bicycle 10 miles a day and your heart will be in a lot better shape. Heart disease is one of the most likely ways to die, and it's expensive and can really screw up your life even if you don't die.

      Once they get used to it, many people say they ride simply to ride; the ride itself is reason enough to do it. I'm certainly in that camp; I have two good cars at my disposal, no problems paying for gas, free and ample parking, but I'd ride every day even if gas were free. They'd have to pay me to drive.

    287. Re:Bike to work by 19thNervousBreakdown · · Score: 1

      1500 with a sedentary lifestyle is believable. 1200-1280 while walking 5 hours and cycling 10 hours a week at 380 lbs just isn't, as you can see by the funny mod up there.

      Hell, cycling period at 380 lbs is a stretch. That's faaaaaaaaaat.

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    288. Re:Bike to work by xaxa · · Score: 1

      Also, don't drink so much on a night out that you lose everything you've gained, and dance like crazy in a nightclub :-)

    289. Re:Bike to work by twoshortplanks · · Score: 1

      Where's your flying car? If you're going by Back To The Future, about seven years away...

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    290. Re:Bike to work by Daengbo · · Score: 1

      But what's the point of your "right" weight? Two years ago, I was 6'3" and 110-115kg with ~35% body fat. After a year of heavy weight training, I was down to 15% BF and ... still 110-115kg.

      I fucked up a 200kg deadlift three months ago and tore my hamstring, so I've been off everything. I'm probably in the mid-20% BF ... and still 110-115kg.

      I can drop down below 110kg if I really try, but why would I? 110-115 appears to be my natural weight now.

    291. Re:Bike to work by jocknerd · · Score: 1

      The reason for this is that your body's metabolism is in protection mode. You eat 2000 calories but walk 7 miles. Your body is storing reserves because it needs them. You need to increase your calories and you need to change your routine. Your body is accustomed to the walk. Switch to something else. You have to shock your body. Lift weights. That will do much more for your body than walking will. Choose another aerobic activity but only do it for about 30 minutes every other day. Find a local high school stadium or something. Run the bleachers. Do wind sprints. Run 40 yard dashes 10 times and rest 30 seconds in between each one. That will kick your ass and give you a much better workout than your 7 mile walk. You need to mix anaerobics with aerobics.

    292. Re:Bike to work by Phreakiture · · Score: 1

      Biking to work is good. I did that for a while before my job moved too far away. (No, I will not sell my home in a buyer's market to move closer to work)

      I can still bike partway, and take a bus the remainder. Our local transit authority has bike racks on all of the routes.

      During the summer, I swim at least three times a day, once before breakfast, once when I get home from work, and once just before bed.

      During the rest of the year, I do push-ups, sit-ups, stretches and jumping jacks, following the programme in The Hacker's Diet , with a minor modification: I skip the lifts, because I don't need them.

      At work, I get up frequently, and choose to pay visits to people rather than phoning or emailing them. I use the stairs, and not the elevators.

      Weather permitting, I will go for a walk at lunch time.

      In other words, I do a little bit at every opportunity.

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    293. Re:Bike to work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Swim.Bike.Run

      www.beginnertriathlete.com

      Shameless plug, but hey, it works.

    294. Re:Bike to work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm sorry too, if what you call introverted is something that makes you afraid of being in public, as the OP basically wrote.

      I'm an introvert, but it makes me angry when people hide behind this label as an excuse for not making an effort to connect or even be around people. Intro/Extra-version is about the way in which you express yourself, not if you do.

    295. Re:Bike to work by Norwell+Bob · · Score: 1

      Weight training will build muscle but doesn't burn a lot of calories.

      Not exactly true. Weight training may burn slightly less calories than steady-state cardio *while* you're exercising, but lifting causes the body to continue to burn calories at a higher rate for a longer period post-exercise than cardio.

      But that's not really where most of its benefit lies. By weight lifting (and I mean heavy, stenuous, can't do more than 8 or 10 reps of this weight), you gain muscle which will increase your body's basal metabolic rate... a.k.a. the number of calories you burn while sitting around doing nothing.

      Frequent steady-state cardio, OTOH, has been shown to actually deplete muscle.

      I don't really have the time to write everything I'd like to on the subject (plus it's still early and I haven't shaken the cobwebs yet), but for some interesting reading on cardio vs. weights, as well as some really outstanding info on diet (as in, lifelong eating choices, not something you do for two weeks), AND some great workouts to get you started, check out "The Testosterone Advantage Plan" by Lou Schuler. I've recommended this book to a hundred people, and it's the book that got me started on the road from being a 250lb+ guy with no muscle who got winded tying his shoes to a 200lb guy who gets comments on how "muscular" and "in shape" he is (not to mention more attention from the opposite sex, and my wife isn't complaining, either).

      Good luck guys! Let's all shake this preconceived notion that geeks all look like Comic Book Store Guy!!

      -Bob

    296. Re:Bike to work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That type of party has already been done before. You just need some scissors, paint, and cardboard.

    297. Re:Bike to work by DaveV1.0 · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      That reminds me, I need to run over some Critical Mass riders on Friday.

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    298. Re:Bike to work by Veamon · · Score: 0

      I have to reply with "DUH".

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    299. Re:Bike to work by DaveV1.0 · · Score: 1

      In the United States, one does not have the right to block other traffic, regardless of whether one is in a car or on a bicycle.

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    300. Re:Bike to work by Cerberus7 · · Score: 1

      HOLY FREAKING CRAP, dude! I'm 6'5", 250. I want to lose about 20 pounds, and even at that weight I'm afraid I'll be too skinny. I was once 190, but back then I wasn't healthy and was nothing but bones. I can't imagine what 135 would be like at this height.

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    301. Re:Bike to work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not the same AC as above but one thing I did learn (after spending a little time with a nutritionist and exercise physiologist trying to peel some of the bulk away) is that you can consume a low level of calories (maybe not quite that low, but sub 2k for a 275 lb with BMR ~ 2700) and not lose weight IF you consume the calories in large batches. I was eating 1 or 2 large meals a day, and the result is that my body stored almost all of it. Eating the same amount but spread out across the day dropped 20 lbs with no increase in activity (was already biking 20 mi/week).

    302. Re:Bike to work by Kessler · · Score: 1

      Everyone is missing why biking is such a perfect geek exercise. It's not about the cardio benefits, or how fast you burn calories, or the fresh air ... it's about the *machine*!

      Biking requires owning (what can be) a very high tech machine. Alloys, composites, frame geometry, gearing systems, braking systems. The amount of stuff to study and upgrade is practically endless :) And of course the desire to go "play" with your fancy machine provides an additional motivational boost to get out and ride.

    303. Re:Bike to work by CastrTroy · · Score: 1

      I second that. I bike to work, and it's really good exercise. Also really good at getting rid of stress. Nothing better than doing some exercise to calm you down at the end of the day. I find the bus is actually faster than the bus, and only a few minutes longer than driving.

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    304. Re:Bike to work by dlaudel · · Score: 0

      There's a handy new invention that just hit the market a few years back. They call it a refrigerator. It's really good at storing left-overs so you can eat again tomorrow. Then they have microwaves and ovens for making the left-overs hot again. Amazing what they come up with, huh?

    305. Re:Bike to work by The+Dancing+Panda · · Score: 2, Insightful

      This is actually the reason I hate seeing people on the Atkins diet, or the South Beach Diet, or the "I just don't eat churros anymore" diet. One thing people really like, and have liked for thousands of years, is bread. Giving up bread (integral to the Atkins diet) is a difficult task for most people, because it takes away something they like eating. You can't easily sustain this for the rest of time: You're going to crack and start eating the things you like again eventually, purely because at some point you realize you really like bread.

      This is why I've started proposing the "put down the fork" diet. It's really simple: eat whatever you want. Just don't eat so damn much of it. I don't count calories (though I do look at the packaging to see what I'm taking in at any one time. If I really like a food, I don't care what the calories are, but if I could take it or leave it, I'll eat something lower in calories), but I do notice the weight of the things I put in my body. The law of conservation of mass says that I can't gain any more weight than what I actually put in, and curbing weight gain is a good start into promoting weight loss. It's helped me lose 25 pounds so far, and I'm not any more hungry than I was. I'm less lethargic (as I'm not constantly digesting food), and can now do more exercise to keep myself losing and get down to a better fighting weight.

      Also, table sugar really isn't that bad for you. If your plan is to just switch from using sugar to Splenda, you're not gaining much unless you're eating WAY too much sugar to begin with. So if you like sugar in your coffee, just use sugar.

      For your comparison, I'm 6'4", ~250lbs. At my worst I was 277, which is where I realized I needed to stop eating so damn much.

    306. Re:Bike to work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Agreed. Here's an excellent article on introversion:
        http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200303/rauch

    307. Re:Bike to work by D+Ninja · · Score: 1

      (and what's with the idiot bike riders who don't even follow traffic rules?)

      This this this this this.

      Just this morning, I saw a biker ride straight through a red light not even stopping to look left or right to see if cars coming. Good thing the woman coming in from the right was watching carefully.

      Bikers - you aren't the only people on the roads. Obey the laws.

    308. Re:Bike to work by darkmeridian · · Score: 1

      Biking is a great way to get in shape. Jump roping is another good cardiovascular exercise, and it also improves your hand eye coordination. I also recommend the Total Gym, which is promoted by Chuck Norris. It provides a quick way to exercise most of your major muscle groups in a fifteen minute session.

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    309. Re:Bike to work by The+Dancing+Panda · · Score: 1

      Botox does this, so if you want to get botox in your sweatiest areas you'd be good to go.

      Or just look for showers. I live by the beach, so every beach access has an outdoor shower. Wear board shorts while you're riding to work, hit the closest beach access and shower off before you walk in, change when you get there.

    310. Re:Bike to work by mopower70 · · Score: 1

      Actually - you're just wrong. Yes, the body has a number of low-calorie adaptations, but HORDING FAT isn't one of them. If he's admittedly flabby, 380 pounds, and been on a 1200 calorie diet for over 8 years, he is a physical impossibility. It doesn't take a lab to have common sense. Or do math.

    311. Re:Bike to work by DataBroker · · Score: 3, Informative

      You know, when you declare everyone else to be morons, you may want to actually back your own position by naming the equation you're using correctly. I believe you mean Mifflin.

      If I remember correctly, Mufflin is actually the sound that a 380 pound man makes in a bakery.

    312. Re:Bike to work by mopower70 · · Score: 1

      Running 9 miles per hour will be about 900 calories.

      Uh... running 9 miles per hour is gonna burn a lot more than 100 calories an hour for most people.

    313. Re:Bike to work by rhyder128k · · Score: 1

      Agree with this. I don't know anything about nutrition or exercise but I do know what helped me. A lot of people fail to take into account the behavioural aspect of exercise routine. People like me find it difficult to stick with an exercise routine, so the trick is to work the exercise into your existing routine. Doing some situps before bed/shower and commuting by bicycle and for leisure is something that I have been able to stick at for a couple of years in a row, longer than I have ever been able to stick to a "proper" exercise routine.

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    314. Re:Bike to work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Generally I send my orc hunter out on foot instead of using his epic mount.

      Wouldn't a treadmill game controller be sweet for this?
      It would certainly add new meaning to delivery quests!

    315. Re:Bike to work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Uh wow, real insight. I've always been apologetic for my introverted ways. You mean it's not something I should be ashamed of?

    316. Re:Bike to work by geminidomino · · Score: 1

      Doesn't work here (SW Florida). Standing still in the *shade* at 10am, one can find himself with sweat running out.

      I hate this place.

    317. Re:Bike to work by stewbacca · · Score: 1

      2 hours? I suggest no out-of-shape geek on slashdot try this at home without fear of death. No wonder you guys try working out once then give up forever.

      I work out 3-5 days a week at the gym and run 10ks and half-marathons (as a hobby, not competitively). The LONGEST I ever work out is 45 minutes. A couple times a year I do a long run to prep for a half-marathon (10 miles max, 90 minutes).

    318. Re:Bike to work by dintech · · Score: 1

      Why should he eat apples but not banans and melons?

      Because bananas and melons have a much higher glycemic load.. Tropical fruits increase the amount of sugar in your blood much more than apples do. Apples have a low glycemic index (~52), bananas are medium (~77) and melons are pretty high (~93). This handy table could help you compare various foods.

    319. Re:Bike to work by Simon+Brooke · · Score: 1

      In the United States, one does not have the right to block other traffic, regardless of whether one is in a car or on a bicycle.

      Indeed not. But proceeding at a normal pace is not blocking other traffic.

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    320. Re:Bike to work by BradleyAndersen · · Score: 1

      If you look here: http://www.calorie-count.com/calories/activities/2.html, you will note that riding to work and back will likely only burn off 4/10 of the big mac you eat at lunch ;)

    321. Re:Bike to work by geminidomino · · Score: 1

      My father's sister used to play Dr. Mario religiously while riding her stationary bike. I could never pull it off. =\

    322. Re:Bike to work by eagee · · Score: 1

      I can empathize about the gym, the last time I went I fell off the treadmill! 'Not one of my more attractive moments. The guy who said Biking to work was absolutely right. If you live in a cold area, don't let that dissuade you. I live in Cleveland and as long as you gear up it's not hard at all. It also helps with other geek-borne illnesses like depression.

    323. Re:Bike to work by torkus · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Good luck building muscle on a calorie deficiency.

      There's tons of advice floating around the first few pages and it varies from very good to very, very poor. Of course, everyone is an expert :)

      Weight loss and body shaping is not, and will never be, just a simple math equation as above. Is doing something better than doing nothing? Of course. Is lowering your calorie intake and weight lifting 2 hours a day going to help? Not much.

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    324. Re:Bike to work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're not retaining water! You're retaining chips!!!
      --Billy Connolly

    325. Re:Bike to work by allmanbro2 · · Score: 1

      There's a couple things to consider here. First, to the drivers who say that many bikers largely ignore traffic laws, especially red lights, they're right. But when was the last time those drivers drove to work without speeding? Without forgetting to signal a turn? Without taking their eyes off the road to change the radio, talk on the phone, etc.? The difference is that when a biker breaks a law or does something stupid, he puts himself at risk. When a driver breaks the law or does something stupid, he puts the biker at risk (as well as himself). So "share the road!" comes from the fact that bikers are in more peril on their way to work, and a larger part of their safety is reliant upon others not doing stupid stuff.

      As far as being better than everyone else, it's tough not to feel that way when you're passing stopped car after stopped car (which is legal where I bike) in a traffic jam. Then there's also the fact that except for hang-gliding, maybe, biking is just about the most energy efficient way to travel.

    326. Re:Bike to work by everphilski · · Score: 1

      i was having weight gain problems when i was eating breakfast cereal daily

      Actually research shows that eating a healthy breakfast is about the best thing you can do for weight loss - it kick starts your metabolism. There was a study done recently actually where one group actually consumed 1000 calories for breakfast and lost more weight than the group that consumed a minimalistic breakfast because of their increased metabolism and a decrease in cravings. When your mom told you it was the most important meal of the day, she wasn't kidding ... trim down lunch or dinner. Unless you are eating straight lard for breakfast and salads for lunch/dinner, it won't make a difference so long as the net caloric intake is the same.

    327. Re:Bike to work by AttillaTheNun · · Score: 1
      A combination of aerobic and resistance training is best, as it provides the immediate benefits of burning calories (aerobic) along with the benefits of additional muscle mass and strength. I found resistance training to counter the neck, back and forearm injuries common to my profession as a desk jockey.

      I'd still recommend at least a couple sessions with a personal trainer at a gym. You don't need to sign your life away to learn some effective exercises (i.e. results in less time) that will prevent you from wasting countless hours. A trainer could put together a challenging routine that you could do at home with little-to-no investment in equipment. You'd be amazed at what you can do with a BOSU, exercise ball, jump-rope, bungee and some light-weight dumbells (sounds like a McGiver promo, I know).

    328. Re:Bike to work by iank · · Score: 1

      Be thankful for small favors. Glad I don't work in your office!

      Should help with the petition for a shower at work.

    329. Re:Bike to work by Joseph+Hayes · · Score: 1

      One of two wrecks I've seen in life involved a innocent cyclist being obliterated.

      A friend and I were on our way home from an all night AD&D session at like 7 in the morning on a two lane road. There is a car stopped ahead in the lane to the left of us waiting to make a turn. A car traveling a littler faster than us in that same lane just kept going at the same speed approaching what was now two cars stopped to turn. This caught my attention as it was obvious this guy was quickly getting rid of his braking distance and was not applying the brakes.

      My friend looks over at me for a second with a face like "oh shit" and taps the break a little to get us out of range in case shit goes crazy (45mph speed limit).

      Then is happens, car SLAMS into the back of the car 2nd car waiting to turn, into the car in front of it, which is knocked into oncoming traffic, at least one oncoming car get hammered, and the car traveling next to it... and this is the part I was building up to ...swerves off the road to the ?median? that's when I see someone on a bike fly into the air like a ragdoll after being hit by the car and wrecking into a gas station sign where the other cars had been waiting to turn into.

      The guy on the bike ended up dying, we stopped and the cops took our name as witnesses. I was amped up on enough caffiene to get a horse buzzed, so I saw the whole thing in freakin 60fps HD Cinemacolor. Craziness

      That being said, I just bought a mountain bike ($99 Mongoose Mountain Bike @ Walmart) to try and get some exercise and eventually get back into Taekwondo. Which (if you aren't an introvert) is an awesome way to get yourself into shape and flexibility. Plus it's a self confidence booster. When you are "fighting" or training to fight 3 times a week, if you find yourself in an actual fight or danger, you have the confidence of knowing that you've trained for it, throwing punches and kicks everyday. Where the average person hasn't thrown a punch since they can remember.

      Good luck with your workout routines...

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    330. Re:Bike to work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or the ones who ride on the white line separating the lane from the shoulder, despite having a full, clear shoulder to bike in.

      I'm all about sharing the road, but cyclists need to learn that sharing means they share too, not that they get whatever the hell they want.

    331. Re:Bike to work by sapphire+wyvern · · Score: 1

      His gut might be a bit better at extracting nutrients from the food in the first place.

      Unless, of course, you're suggesting that poop contains no useful energy at all - in which case, I do wonder what benefit the flies see in it for laying eggs.

    332. Re:Bike to work by thomas.galvin · · Score: 1

      Agreed. I bike 30 miles every other day and that was enough, along with a sensible diet, to get me from a peak of 180 pounds down to a more healthy 155. Now I'm steady at 155 but can still eat more than I normally could without the exercise. Plus it's good for the heart.

      Maintaining weight is a matter of how many calories you consume and how many your burn. Weight training will build muscle but doesn't burn a lot of calories. Things like running, swimming, and biking are the kinds of things that burn calories.

      True, running a mile may burn more calories than lifting weights immediately, but the immediate effect isn't the only thing to consider. In fact, it isn't even the most important.

      The more muscle you have, the more calories you burn, even just sitting around browsing the web. So in the regard, weight training is vastly more important that steady-state cardio.

      And when you do brief, intense exercise, it fires up your metabolism for the next 24-48 hours. So running five miles burns more calories than 15 minutes of interval sprints or a half hour of CrossFit while you're exercising, but two days later, the guy who did intervals or CrossFit will have burned more total calories.

    333. Re:Bike to work by j_166 · · Score: 1

      "In other words, you'll burn more kilojoules at rest."

      This is America, bub. Use the correct unit: Imperial Hogsheads. Don't make me have to come down there and run a conversion calculation on your ass.

    334. Re:Bike to work by Archtech · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Thanks for the advice, but how does it fit in with the monotonous refrain of "eat less than you exercise - it's simple physics!" that I hear from everyone else?

      When someone has difficulty losing weight, first they are told to eat less and exercise more. That having failed, now you tell me to eat more and exercise less!

      Between them these two recommendations seem to cover all the possibilities.

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    335. Re:Bike to work by CastrTroy · · Score: 1

      Also worth point out is that activities like biking, swimming, and running do increase muscle mass. I bike to work, and my entire body is pretty well toned. I'm no hulk, but even doing cardio can build up quite a bit of muscle. You'll have a huge amount more muscle than somebody who doesn't exercise.

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    336. Re:Bike to work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Your both wrong in order to be at his best he should wake up and do yoga, bike to work and get a one-handed strap-on keyboard so he can do curls and squats at work, then bike home, and more yoga. And here's the important thing... EVERYDAY!

      Common, lets be frank. Unless you're obsessed with yourself there's a point where too much is simply too much. This is a busy man and if he's posting here, at the least an intelligent man, but also a procrastinating man who hopes the pounds will just go away on their own. I know I wish that. The truth is we all do this when it comes to exercise because most of us geeks hate it. If it involves a few less cycles in front of a monitor it feels like a waste. And ultimately, it's up to each of us to man up and pick the right thing. For me, it's gluttonous decline to certain peril. For a friend, it's vegetarianism and walking, and for another it's stationary bike hooked up to a mouse and keyboard so he can game while exercising, novel approach I think, though it hurts his skillz a bit.

      Good luck in your search friend, but remember this is something you're going to want to keep doing so pick something you can stand doing every day (or every other day) for the rest of your natural life or it will have no effect ultimately anyway.

    337. Re:Bike to work by bemenaker · · Score: 1

      I study Shaolin kung fu

    338. Re:Bike to work by roman_mir · · Score: 1

      Check your thyroid (t3, t4, tsh and thyroid antibodies)

    339. Re:Bike to work by onealone · · Score: 1

      One thing a lot of people fail to consider is temperature. If you spend all your time indoors, or you live in a hot area, then you're not going to burn calories keeping yourself warm. The typically quoted figures are only averages, so you may need to adjust them to take into account the current temperature. If you live in a cold or temperate area, turn the heating down or off in the winter. That'll help you lose weight without requiring any exercise.

    340. Re:Bike to work by bondjamesbond · · Score: 0

      Sitting on a couch - of course not. It's like if you have a truck and a Prius parked in a garage, they'll not burn any gas. If you drive them the same distance, the truck will burn more. If a muscular person and a skinny person walk a mile, the muscular one will burn more calories. No citation needed - it's common sense.

    341. Re:Bike to work by c0p0n · · Score: 1

      Tuna and swordfish are blue fish, to name a couple.

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    342. Re:Bike to work by roman_mir · · Score: 1

      So how much money is in the porn business?

    343. Re:Bike to work by AlejoHausner · · Score: 1
      To lose weight requires that you burn more calories than you consume.

      This doesn't make any sense, if you think about it. Yes, I know we've had that idea pounded into our brains for decades, but we're all techies here, and we should be able to do some math:

      The amazing fact is that people's weight stays constant despite varying levels of calorie intake and exercise. The body is smart. It has had billions of years of evolution to build in mechanisms that help preserve the body in a constant form. Yes, it's true that if eat nothing you will eventually overcome those mechanisms, and lose weight, but that's not permanent. If you go back to eating normally, you will regain the weight.

      There's so much morality-driven nonsense being promulgated about the virtues of exercise and caloric deprivation. But it's really just dogma that stands in the way of scientific reasoning.

      Here's a simple bit of logic: a slice of bread (a mere trifle, you'll agree) has about 100 calories. Suppose your body burns X calories per day (say X=2500), and you accidentally eat one slice of bread too many. Over a year, you'll have eaten 36,500 too many calories, and since fat (body fat and also dietary fat) has 8 calories per gram, you'll have gained 36,000/8=4560 grams (about 10 pounds for you metric-deprived 'murricans).

      Over 10 years, you'll gain 100 pounds! If, on the other hand, you erroneously omit that slice of bread, you'll become anorexic and probably die.

      But this doesn't happen in practice! In practice, people don't hit their exact metabolic requirements every day. It's hit and miss. And yet the very well established medical fact is that most people retain the same constant weight despite a completely varying dietary intake.

      Well, you'll argue that on average you'll hit the target, but why should that be so? Yes, there are people who tend to gain weight, but the vast majority of people keep their weight constant, even though their average dietary intake probably doesn't match their metabolic "ideal" exactly.

      The answer is that you metabolism adjusts to match your caloric intake. Your body is way smarter than you when it comes to weight. It's gonna do its best to keep weight constant no matter how hard you try.

      Go on, tell me I'm full of sh*t. But use reason. Don't spout preconceived dogma.

    344. Re:Bike to work by DuckDodgers · · Score: 1

      The problem with HIIT is that if you're already fat, it's rough on the joints.

      I tried HIIT about ten years ago. I started with just 4 minutes of 30 second sprint followed by a thirty second walk. I nearly vomited at the end - which probably meant I wasn't working hard enough. I went home with sweat pouring out of my body for the next half hour and a tremendous sense of accomplishment. I woke up the next day with my ankles and knees in incredible pain. I also had tremendous muscle soreness, but that's normal after an unfamiliar high intensity exercise.

      I couldn't run again for a month. If I had access to a pool, HIIT would work. Otherwise, not so much.

    345. Re:Bike to work by gosand · · Score: 1

      I'm sorry you're an introvert.

      Don't be sorry for us (you insensitive clod!)

      It's not like it's a disease, bad in anyway, or meaning that one does not enjoy being outside.
      It's probably different for everyone - for me it means that I don't like being in crowds and
      am more likely to relax being alone or with (a few) close friends.

      But I digress.

      I don't think you know what digress means, because you didn't do it.

      I am an introvert too... but I am certainly not afraid of being around other people. Those are totally different things.

      As for exercising, you should do a well-rounded routine (just like your diet). Why would you just lift weights, or just bike, or just do one thing? The point is not to just burn fat, it's to be healthier and improve yourself inside and out. You can learn a lot by going to a gym, you can see what other people are doing, you get a wide variety of machines and equipment, and there are usually attractive sweaty women there. (ok, I said it) If you WANT then you can possibly meet other people, but I have found that most people keep to themselves. My gym has lots of cool new equipment that would be difficult if not impossible to replicate at home. I've done quite a bit of home training over the years, and it never quite compares. The right tool for the job always makes it easier.

      Exercise should be fun, and something you look forward to - not a chore. If it's a chore, you won't keep up with it. It's just like anything else - embrace it, even if it's painful. Experience it to the fullest. Don't worry what others think. Learn the basics about diet, be mindful of what you eat, and try not to be too obsessive about any of it and over-do it.

      I try to do this with most things. You ever meet those people who are obsessed with something and can't talk about anything else? The guy you've met who always brings up baseball, or the one who talks about his online games in excruciating detail? The one who always talks about his trip to Brazil, even though you've heard it 100 times? The woman who only talks about celebrity news or the fact that she's training for a marathon? Don't be those people - nobody cares. And don't try to explain things that cannot be explained well - like movie scenes, or tv shows, or imitating some comedian's routine. Yes, I've seen that episode of the Simpsons that you just explained to me even though I told you I've seen it and you happened to get almost every single quote wrong. And no, that is not anyone's favorite episode, it isn't even in the top 100, you're just someone who found it funny because you didn't get the real sarcasm and social commentary behind the premise! Besides, everyone knows that episode 9F11 - Selma's Choice from Season 4 is the best episode ever. How can you beat the big rotting sandwich and Duff Gardens, complete with psychadelic freakout and beer goggles?! And multiple parts voiced by the late great Phil Hartman. A classic!

      See, now THAT'S how to digress. :)

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    346. Re:Bike to work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      toot your own horn? oh, you're skinny and flexible enough to suck yourself off.

    347. Re:Bike to work by c0p0n · · Score: 1

      Why should he eat only vegetables and protein on workout days and lots of carbs on rest days?

      Because he's trying to burn fat.

      why shouldn't he eat lots of carbohydrates on workout days?

      Because he's trying to burn fat.

      Also what's this stupid "no fat" advice?

      Because he's trying to burn fat.

      Time and time again it's been proven that a higher fat energy percent improves your body composition, not the opposite.

      Hopefully you ain't thinking about Omega 3/6 acids because it ain't even proved to be beneficial for your health. You get more than enough of the oils you need when you prepare a salad dressing with, say, olive oil. Other than that, *no* *fats* if you're trying to lose weight.

      Melons are LOW in total energy content and have much nutrition in them.

      I didn't say he can't. I said to do it occasionally. Not sure if you know anything at all about nutrition to be honest... The glycaemic index of melons is fairly high. That's the wrong type of energy to put into your body. You'll have a sugar rush and be hungry again before you can say "barbosa".

      Red meat and especially processed things like sausage and such isn't that good

      Agreed, that's why red meat should be once a week at most. It's a way of securing iron in large quantities. Also, there is no point in making your life miserable. You DO need to eat things you enjoy, from time to time or demotivation takes over and you're done. That's why each week I eat a large beef steak. Blue. I love it.

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    348. Re:Bike to work by DuckDodgers · · Score: 1

      Oops, I see from the web pages linked off the wikipedia article that HIIT is recommended with an exercise bike or jumping rope. I will have to try that, thanks for the excellent suggestion!

      I had started out reading the original Muscle Media article on the topic (the first link from the wikipedia page), and it suggested sprints. I had been jogging without joint pain, and figured a move to sprints wasn't a big deal even at my obese size. That was emphatically not the case.

    349. Re:Bike to work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      yes, and as a geek you might want to get one of these:

      http://www.mobikyusa.com/

      I just did and I am going to work with it
      is great fun!! :-)

    350. Re:Bike to work by Samurai+Cat! · · Score: 1

      I've been telecommuting the past few years so I don't get to bike to work. :( BUT I can bug out during the day and do laps around my neighborhood on my roadie, so that helps. :)

      The one time I was regularly biking to work was a several-month stretch in Portland, after moving there with a net startup which croaked some months later. :(

      I was fortunate in that way - the ride was only about 25 blocks, a good portion of which a) had a bike lane, and b) was slightly downhill going in. So the ride to work was not strenuous, hence I didn't even have a chance to get sweaty at all. And the ride home was uphill, and I would often push it riding home, to get that little workout.

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    351. Re:Bike to work by azav · · Score: 1

      I lift as heavy as I possibly can without straining or using bad form. That, with less reps and end of range of motion reps helped me put on 18 lbs in 6 weeks. That said, 3 years later at 43, I'm in Texas during a 100 degree summer and cardiovascularly, I'm in need of improvement. Simply running around the block in the early morning tells my heart it needs to work. After we get to a certain age, our bodies naturally store pile on the fat. Even for skinny people like me. :/ Research the calories in what you eat and try not to eat out every meal. A Baja Fresh burrito has about 1600 calories.

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    352. Re:Bike to work by cecille · · Score: 1

      If that is really the case, and you're not just accidentally ingesting more calories or burning fewer than you think, then you might be one of these lucky bacteria holders.
      Of course the article makes it sound like every overweight person could just blame bacteria, but in fact it's rare. But you never know, right?

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    353. Re:Bike to work by Hairy+Heron · · Score: 1

      This doesn't make any sense, if you think about it.

      In what world does that not make any sense? The rest of what you said is just nonsense that it doesn't even deserve a real response.

    354. Re:Bike to work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      With your choice of foods, eat until you're full. Make your own bread. Avoid the foodstuffs that have been fortified with additional vitamins.

    355. Re:Bike to work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're a girl. How can I tell? Guys are not going to refer to any of their activities as "freshen up", or come within 10 feet of a scentless moist wipe, unless they are at gunpoint.

    356. Re:Bike to work by darkwhite · · Score: 1

      You're an idiot.

      Bikers already pay to maintain your roads through all kinds of taxes, including estate, state income, federal income, and other taxes in the US, and I'm sure equivalently in other countries.

      Bikes also impart no damage whatsoever to roads compared to cars, let alone trucks, due to their negligible weight and surface loading.

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    357. Re:Bike to work by digitalaudiorock · · Score: 1

      The answer to weight lifting vs cardio is to do both.

      Absolutely...they're both important. I row on an indoor rowing machine (a Concept II...can't recommend it enough) three times a week for 20 minutes (a pretty rough 20 minutes usually covering about 2.8 miles) and lift weights extensively two to three times a week.

      I read that the average male, between the ages of 50 and 70 looses a full third of their muscle mass. You can prevent that with enough weight training. I'm 54 and have about 10% body fat and am still gaining muscle mass (though somewhat slowly).

      So yes...they're both important, and the weight training gets more important with age.

    358. Re:Bike to work by ectoraige · · Score: 1

      I can appreciate how stifling being introverted is.

      However, I'd suggest that training with a good martial arts school would be quite beneficial. To recognise a good school, find one with a fair gender and age mix with lots of beginners classes.

      Although you would be in a group, most of the time there's very little interaction actually required as you are all just practising the same moves. Being shown how to stretch or adopt a particular stance doesn't require much more than a nod from you.

      In fact, I started Capoeira a while ago, and the Brazilian instructors barely have a sentence of English between them. There are of course other members who are quite sociable, and seem to enjoy chatting amongst themselves, but they seem happy to allow me to be a quiet one. I think I know the names of one of them.

      I find it very hard to motivate myself so I'd fail horribly if I tried a home-exercise program. In a martial arts class (and I'm sure in others too), this problem goes away. Also, I find the specificity of movements and techniques holds my attention enough that I enjoy trying to get it right. I've tried gym classes and haven't enjoyed them nearly as much.

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    359. Re:Bike to work by slashgrim · · Score: 1
      True story: a friend got a ticket for running a red light...on a BIKE.

      He even stopped first and made sure it was clear. Funniest thing I heard all week.

    360. Re:Bike to work by GeffDE · · Score: 1

      His gut would have to be a whole lot better to explain the discrepancy. I mean, his resting metabolic rate is at least twice as much as his daily caloric intake. And he exercises. His gut is not >2x more efficient at nutrient extraction. I don't have the numbers, but I don't think that's even possible (which is true if humans extract more than 50% of the nutrients in their food).

      Maybe his gut can convert mass into energy. That would explain it!!! Come on. It's not fracking possible. Everyone here is supposedly geeks/nerds and those people are supposedly scientifically-minded. Science is screaming, "This guy's a phony," just as loudly as Holden Caulfield. You should listen.

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    361. Re:Bike to work by protobion · · Score: 1

      If you have more muscle mass, you have more cells. More cells burn more calories.

      I am not claiming that this extra calorie burning is significant enough to cause weight loss. But certainly a 150kg goliath sitting on the couch burns more calories than a 50 kg anorexic. Its the same reason why elephants need to eat more than say...cows even if they mostly stand around all day (barring any more complicated arguments of digestive efficiency etc.)

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    362. Re:Bike to work by Lobster+Quadrille · · Score: 1

      When you get home from work too late, or it's too bloody hot outside to go for a ride, I've found that the stationary bike and an xbox can make the time and blubber disappear.

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    363. Re:Bike to work by Otter+Popinski · · Score: 1

      Actually research shows that eating a healthy breakfast is about the best thing you can do for weight loss - it kick starts your metabolism. There was a study done recently...

      You're telling this to a guy who thinks pork rinds are a healthy snack, despite LOADS of sodium and moderate-to-high fat. Safe to say he's more concerned with carbohydrates and protein than anything else.

    364. Re:Bike to work by torkus · · Score: 1

      Actually you're exactly right and that's why i believe you're wrong.

      Over a period of time a person's overall metabolic efficiency can rise. This results in a lower energy consumption for the same (well, hopefully greater) energy output. Heart rate combined with age, height, weight, and sex should provide a fairly accurate measure of calories expended. e.g. an olympic runner wouldn't expend nearly as much energy on a brisk 2 mile walk as a man who's daily excercise is walking to the fridge a few times. Their heart rates would match this difference.

      While I don't consider PopSci to be the ultimate authority, they (or was it PopMech? ) have a very interesting article this month about fittness training.

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    365. Re:Bike to work by networkconsultant · · Score: 1

      In addition to biking excessively (To work, to the store to get milk ... to your friends parties). I have found that standard resistance training 15 to 20 well formed push ups and 25 to 30 sit-ups worked well for me. Generally speaking hitting your target heart rate for 1/2 hour every day will see you lose weight in conjunction with a low fat, no sugar, no high cholesterol, no monounsaturated fat, little red meat, lots of white meat and the key being eating less more frequently. (5 to 6 small meals per day evenly spaced and calculated to meet all vitamin and essential amino acid requirements or RDA's)
      I once weighed 230Lbs, I'm 6'1" however due to previous weight training and a natural muscular build i could not use a BMI as an indicator. Instead my personal trainer mentioned I should use how my clothes fit and how well defined my musculature was.
      Instead I used how my clothes fit, I used to buy 38" pants and they were tight. Now 36" is loose, it's been that way forever. (4+ Years)
      Now it's 36" loose, my weight fluctuates with the seasons (195 in the summer to 210 in the winter) however this is due to my regimens, weight training in the winter and more cardio in the summer. My weight also fluctuates with the time of day, water intake and alcohol consumption (best to be avoided as well since beer is empty calories).
      You probably have a naturally fast metabolism that is slowing down due to age, this is perfectly normal, ideally you may use dietary supplements in conjunction with exercise and negative or low calorie snacks that aren't fried or cooked in oil.
      Since you are not averted to energy drinks, try making your own to further enhance your workout regimen, I routinely mix nootropics, BCAA's, Glutamene, Lysine, and many others to off set the development of Lactic Acid in my muscles during and after training. Not only does my standing blood pressure remain very very low but it also allows me to burn more when I am working out at a higher rate.
      I sit in front of a computer in excess of 8 hours a day, I spend 15 to 20 minutes inverted (I have gravity boots and resistance training equipment) and I must say that the few hundred dollars spent on the equipment I have has been worth it. A pull up bar is by far and away the best investment, they cost around $20, fit in a door frame and make you gain about an inch over your entire upper body with regular use, there's a reason marines and infantry use them.
      Some links to get you started: http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/index.html (look at the exercises and schedules including how to not overtrain) http://hundredpushups.com/test.html (A good simple regimen to build your upper body strength) http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/templates/TC010219661033.aspx (a fitness chart for you to begin with)
      Apart from studying your diet more carefully, try to develop a flexible schedule that meets your needs. The nice thing about resistance training is no equipment is needed and since you are averted to gym's circuit training is out of the question although it's the best way to loose weight and increase your metabolism. A good place to start is to check out the standard training regimen of the american infantry, it's been over 50 years in development and turns out 1000's of athlete grade men every year, when you need to carry an 80lb bag while running with an assault weapon and 20lb's of protective gear on you you need to be in good shape, not an option to be slow if you are getting shot at.
      Things to think about: Push Up Bars, Chin Up bar (optionally with gravity boots), Resistance Bar, Pilates ball (push ups are a lot harder when you elevate your feet). All can be had for less than $500. Vs 6 months of insulin?

    366. Re:Bike to work by The+Gaytriot · · Score: 1
      Weight training burns much more calories than cardiovascular training. As an amateur body builder I know that many competitors don't do any cardio at all during their weight cutting phase, or simply use cardio as a supplement to their training.

      When you weight train you burn plenty of calories, but the major advantage is that you continue to burn calories for the several days. Breaking down your muscle tissue causes your body to expend calories in order to repair and strengthen it and this process really takes up to a week.

      In addition to that, for every pound of muscle you gain your body requires that much more fuel to nourish it. So more calories end up being used instead of being turned into fatty tissue.

      I guess what I'm really saying is I think you are right on.

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    367. Re:Bike to work by torkus · · Score: 1

      Metabolism is a wonderful thing. I used to be like this in my teens and early 20's. Breakfast, lunch, mcdonalds for "snack" in the afternoon, full dinner...and whatever else came my way in between. Lots of it was junk foot and unhealthy too. Calories? Psh...yeah i'll just eat the whole bag of chips and who cares.

      Then i got a fscking office job. Ugh, several years later trying to get back on track. It sucks.

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    368. Re:Bike to work by Kintanon · · Score: 1

      Weight training will build muscle but doesn't burn a lot of calories. Things like running, swimming, and biking are the kinds of things that burn calories.

      This statement is so incredibly ignorant that it makes me immediately discount everything you say.
      Weight training is a vital part of building and maintaining fitness and maintaining a healthy weight. A good weight lifting routine (Doesn't have to be powerlifting or bodybuilding) will burn calories with a quickness and the resulting muscle increase will improve your resting calorie burn and make it easier to lose weight and keep it off in general.

      The key is intensity. High intensity workouts are better than low, take less time, build better work capacity, burn more calories, build more muscle and are generally more effective.

      www.crossfit.com

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    369. Re:Bike to work by illumin8 · · Score: 1

      I for one have noticed that food packaging, while usually having truthful nutrition facts labels, have downright false of misleading front of package portion numbers, the worst offender was 'great value' brand products, their microwave bacon claims the same number of ounces as their competitor, hormel, yet if you go by the nutrition facts label, and do the math you wind up with double the number of grams of meat as on the front of the package. if you go by calories per gram, and multiply by the front of the package, you'd only come up with 50% of the actual calories.

      While I don't know for a fact this is the case, you might try reading the fine print on the package to ensure that the Nutrition Facts are not listing "cooked weight" or cooked serving size where the package is listing uncooked weight. I've noticed this on microwave popcorn packaging. They have to list the ounces of uncooked weight, but the Nutrition Facts are based on what the product is like right before consuming it (after being popped). Some foods will list both sets of information in the Nutrition Facts.

      Also, in the US the FDA is very strict about the Nutrition Facts label being on all foods, and being fairly accurate. While it doesn't have a lot of information about chemical and preservative content and won't tell you if the product has MSG, I've found them to be fairly reliable indicators of the caloric, fat, and carb content in most foods.

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    370. Re:Bike to work by yabos · · Score: 1

      It's not a myth. http://exercise.about.com/od/exerciseworkouts/f/muscle.htm
      While at rest it's actually burning 3x more calories than fat but while you're moving around the muscle is contracting and burning even more energy whereas your fat cells aren't doing anything and thus overall the more muscle you have the more calories you are going to burn while active.

    371. Re:Bike to work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I bike to work twice a week. It's about 14 miles each way, with temperatures anywhere from 75F in the morning to over 100F in the afternoon. Shower before riding, then once I get to work I cool down for 10 - 15 min while checking email, then get cleaned up and changed in the restroom. You can get no rinse shampoo and soap at camping supply stores, or use body wipes. Then, change in to clean clothes, apply deodorant, and you are good for the day. I've had people question my sanity, but never complain that I smell bad.

      You can bring in supplies (clothes, lunches, etc) on the days you drive so you don't have to carry them on the bike. Approach it as a technical / logistical problem and you'll figure out the details pretty easily for your situation.

      In addition to being great exercise, it is also good for my mental health. On the days that I drive, I usually have a headache when I get home. On the days that I bike, I feel better throughout the day and the ride home clears my head, gets my blood flowing, and I am usually energized instead of only wanting a nap by the time I get home.

    372. Re:Bike to work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have found this free site works http://www.power-fitness.info/index.html It involves calisthenics exercises and implementing "High Intensity Interval Training" (HIIT) look it up in Wiki other good sites for the home brew workout are http://www.rosstraining.com/ http://bodyweightculture.com/forum/index.php I think if youre shy about gyms bodyweight is for you. It has worked great for me if you try a search for bodyweight, hindu pushup, hindu squat, and the like on you tube you ll find plenty of good videos

    373. Re:Bike to work by dubl-u · · Score: 2, Informative

      Hookay, bub. It seems like I've been playing Whack-a-mole with morons recently.

      The quoted value is calculated using the Mufflin equation, which is regarded as among the best in the business [...]

      Listen up, my little douchenozzle. You're about to learn some science.

      First, there is no Mufflin equation. If you are going to be a total prick, you should at least know a tiny bit about what you're talking about. I gather you're referring to the Mifflin-St Jeor equation. But hey, I'm sure you just mis-typed it. Twice. The same way.

      Second, you're not "in the business". My guess is that you haven't gotten past a college sophomore science lab, and the most business you get up to is stocking cans in aisle 6. Otherwise you would know how people come up with numbers like this, and what they actually mean, rather than what self-important shitbag internet bullies think they mean on a casual reading of about.com. No, I didn't mean you there. I was thinking about... uh... somebody else.

      Third, this is not an equation like E=mc^2 or F=ma. Those describe fundamental natural relationships that are baked into the structure of the universe. This is a curve fit. These guys, by which I mean Mifflin and St Jeor, got a few hundred points of data (to be precise, 498), drew some lines through their field of dots, and then came up with an equation for those lines. If you had bothered to read the original paper, you would find that they say flat out that there is, even by their calculations, a 30% error rate baked in to their equation based on normal human variability.

      Fourth, they were studying normal people. They only got 40 guys who were more than 40% of the ideal weight, so at best you could say our anonymous big guy is rarer than 1 in 40. Worse, they specifically excluded anybody over 80% of their ideal weight. That's right: people anywhere near this guy's weight were intentionally left out of the study. So you are running your mouth in overdrive and being a jackass based on no data at all.

      Fifth, people still don't really understand how stuff like this works. They are still doing basic, basic science on the relationship between diet and weight. That this guy weighs 380 pounds means that he is a complete outlier. Maybe he's just fat because he likes the pies a whole lot. Or maybe he's fat because there's something different about him. E.g., that his body's famine adaptations are stuck in overdrive due to some genetic condition. We already know that he's very abnormal, and your whole line of argument is based on assuming that he's perfectly normal in every aspect except one. Which, if you knew any science, you would know is shitty science.

      So let's sum up here. You were a complete dick to some stranger on an internet forum based on nothing more than the heady fumes of your arrogance. plus maybe a quick Google search. If you'd bothered to think about it, you would know that anybody at 380 lbs has already taken plenty of crap about their weight. But did that slow you down? No. If anything, it made it easier for you to heap on the abuse. Nothing like picking on a fatty, eh? Then, when called on your ignorance, you tried to spin your way out of it, and failed.

      My sincere hope for you is that you are some vaguely malodorous, poorly groomed 10th-grade dweeb who sneaks off to the computer lab at lunch to post on Slashdot and hide from the people picking on him. Because that would give you an excuse for being such a clueless, needless asshole to a stranger who's life is already filled with suck. And because eventually you will have the chance to grow up and become a real human eventually.

      What I fear, though, is that you are already past the larval stage, and are writing missives like this from your elderly mom's basement while working a minimum wage job and creeping out the people who have to sit next to you on the bus. If that's the case, god help you, as you'll probably never change, and your life will be much sadder than some guy who is merely very fat.

    374. Re:Bike to work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Take a one hour brisk walk every morning before work.

      Oh that's right, this is slashdot. No one here gets up that early ;-)

    375. Re:Bike to work by Abcd1234 · · Score: 1

      Have you ever actually *been* to Northern Alberta? On the days when it's nice enough to bike, the temperature easily rides in the 70-80F (20-30C) range (at least, in Edmonton it does... whether or not that's "northern Alberta" is, I suppose, a matter of perspective). It ain't humid, but you'll sure as hell break a sweat.

      'course, I used to ride in the dead of winter (-20C range), and I'd still break a sweat under my gear, so I'm not sure how much temperature/humidity really makes a difference.

    376. Re:Bike to work by hhlost · · Score: 1

      > I'm sorry you're an introvert.

      There's nothing wrong with being an introvert. It just means that being around people, especially large groups, drains your energy.

    377. Re:Bike to work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's simply not true. Muscle mass burns calories all day long while aerobics only burns while you perform that particular exercise. Metabolic rate is increased around 11hrs post-resistance training & only 1 hr aerobically. You really need to do both to be fit though, as well as the 3rd piece of the puzzle - flexibility.

      As has already been said, a combination of the two is the best option. Every pound of lean muscle converted from fat muscle burns an additional 7 kcal an hour, all day long. So if you were to put on a few pounds of lean muscle through weight training, you'd be burning a decent amount of calories through the day, just while at your desk. And then, when you perform aerobic activities, these muscles will burn even more calories.

      Also, if you're sitting at a desk all day, get up and walk around once an hour. It will help to keep your metabolism going.

    378. Re:Bike to work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's not like it's a disease, bad in anyway, or meaning that one does not enjoy being outside.
      It's probably different for everyone - for me it means that I don't like being in crowds and
      am more likely to relax being alone or with (a few) close friends.

      You know what would be great ? All us introverts should get together some time. No party people allowed. And then we'll have a party.

      In other news, I may need medication :P

      Well then it wouldn't be a gathering of introverts if we all got together... We'd just be....verts.

    379. Re:Bike to work by torkus · · Score: 1

      Yes...but...

      Reducing your caloric intake also lowers your metabolism. Yes, you can most certainly lose weight by lowering your intake vs. burned kcals. In fact, for many people who cry about their weight that's exactly what I tell them. However, you get diminishing returns on this and your metabolism will STAY low(er) after your diet is done. This is one reason people often gain back some weight after a diet.

      I know adults who never eat more than 1000kcal a day and 5-700 is typical but do not lose weight (yes, aneorexics). They're an extreme example but it does make the point.

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    380. Re:Bike to work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A cyclist running a red light is really not that big a deal. They're small so if they get hit it's their own damned fault. Also, as a result of not being in a steel cage their periferal vision is a hell of a lot better than someone who's in a car, meaning their judgement on wether or not it's safe to cross an intersection is better informed.

      On the other hand, a car running a cyclist over is going to hurt the cyclist a lot more than the driver of the car.

      Besides, if you're in a car you're going to get there 10x faster and should feel privileged that you can afford that luxury instead of being angry at some poor schmuck who has to ride a bike everyday.

      /rant

    381. Re:Bike to work by AlejoHausner · · Score: 1
      The equation "weight_change = calories_eaten - calories_burned" is obviously correct (it's basic physics), but the way it' usually interpreted doesn't make sense. The usual interpretation is that you have to eat less to lose weight. However, this goes against observed facts. The observed fact is that most people's weight (with small variations) remains constant, even though they make no effort to match their caloric intake to their metabolism.

      The only rational explanation I can see is that metabolism adjusts to match caloric intake. The body is doing everything it can to keep body mass constant.

    382. Re:Bike to work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't shop at Walmart!

    383. Re:Bike to work by illumin8 · · Score: 1

      No fats.

      You have some pretty good advice generally, but I take exception to the "No Fats" rule. Sure, you want your protein sources to be very lean, and don't want saturated fats, but you also need to make sure you get a good supply of healthy fats. There is a difference between good and bad fats, and healthy fats that are mostly from vegetable sources like flax seeds, avocados, and also omega 3s from salmon and other fish oil are very important. Your body needs these healthy fats because they help build the tissue that supports important things like arteries and blood vessels. So, if you're doing weight training, cardio, or any type of exercise designed to build or strengthen the muscles in your body, be sure to get a good supply of healthy fats. It should be 20-30% of your caloric intake.

      Just stay away from saturated fats like what you find in red meat (always eat lean red meat), fried foods, and especially trans fats. These are all bad fats.

      Personally, I like to gorge myself on the occasional homemade guacamole, nuts like almonds and walnuts, and a few servings a week of salmon. I don't eat a bowl of guacamole every day, but fats like that are good for your body. There is far too much misinformation out there that "Fat = Bad". This is just not true. Some fats are bad, but some fats are incredibly healthy.

      For a real world example, look at the Alaskan eskimo population. They have ridiculously long lifespans, some living over 100 years, without the benefit of modern medicine. It turns out the majority of their diet was fish, especially a lot of salmon and other fish with high concentrations of omega 3 fatty acids. The health benefits to the entire body, but especially the cardiovascular system, are amazing.

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    384. Re:Bike to work by Nos. · · Score: 1

      You might want to read that again. Running 9 miles per hour (for an hour) will burn 900 calories. That fits (roughly) with what my treadmill tells me. I tend to run at about 6 miles/hour for 25 minutes (with a bit of walking included) at a 4.5 degree incline and it tells me I burn 350-400 calories.

    385. Re:Bike to work by yabos · · Score: 1

      Or he just actually has no clue about what he's eating which is about 90% of the population

    386. Re:Bike to work by yabos · · Score: 1

      You have to eat less but most people take that way too far and eat next to nothing. Of course your body then says wtf is going on and hoards everything it can because it now thinks you're in primeval earth and can't find any food for a month because the rain forest is flooded.

    387. Re:Bike to work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Amen to that.

      If cyclists weren't such absolute asses on the road, I wouldn't mind them. As it is, I feel little sympathy if/when they get hit by cars from the side while crossing during a red light (as I've seen once).

    388. Re:Bike to work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I agree with this completely. Ride a bicycle to work and get a bicycle stout enough to use for grocery shopping.

    389. Re:Bike to work by dubl-u · · Score: 1

      Actually - you're just wrong. Yes, the body has a number of low-calorie adaptations, but HORDING FAT isn't one of them.

      Eh? The point of fat is to get you through lean times. E.g., the bear fattening up for winter hibernation. Then when food is scarce, the metabolism shifts into a lower gear (those low-calorie adaptations you agree exist) and your body lives more off of the stored fat. But that lower gear, by reducing calories burned, would have act to hoard fat.

      he is a physical impossibility. It doesn't take a lab to have common sense. Or do math.

      You know what you're doing math on? Numbers that come out of labs where they study people of normal weight. As you can see elsewhere in the thread, the popular resting energy expenditure formula intentionally excluded very fat people.

      It could well be that this guy is giant because he eats a lot more than other people. People with eating disorders often have trouble confronting the truth of what they eat. (Not that accusing them of lying helps them get over that.) However, we are not bumping up against the second law of thermodynamics here; the human body is a complex and poorly understood system even for the normal case.

      This guy isn't normal. He isn't within three standard deviations of normal. Unless you are senior faculty member whose field of study is the metabolisms of the morbidly obese, pretending that you know everything important about him based on one short paragraph from the guy plus something you read on a dieting site is a big scoop of arrogance, leavened with a pinch of cluelessness.

    390. Re:Bike to work by Alinabi · · Score: 1

      3. Don't run two days in a row.

      Where did you get that idea? Care to elaborate a bit about the downfalls of running for two days in a row? I run every day except Monday, I've been doing it for 5 years now, and I am fine.

      7. Running shoes are not one size fits all.

      I would add to that the fact that they are only good for about 500 miles and that they should suit your biomechanics. Don't buy them at Dick's, or Sports Authority, or any other place like that. Go to a specialized running store. They will have you run barefoot on a treadmill and recommend a shoe based on what your foot does when it impacts the ground.

      I would also add that if your goal is to lose weight and you are running less than 40 mi/week, you are just wasting your time. My weekly milage varies from ~30 mi/week in the dead of winter, when I often have to skip running due to the road conditions (I hate running on treadmills), and 70 mi/week at the peak of a marathon training program. I am 5'11'' and my weight varies from 172 (at low mileage), to 163 (right before a marathon). Also, weight loss does not begin until I start doing runs that take me beyond the glycogen depletion point (2h 45 min for me). Before that the muscles burn sugars only, no fat.

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    391. Re:Bike to work by stdarg · · Score: 1

      I think he made a good point about switching exercises. My understanding is that muscles become specialized and more efficient which means burning fewer calories to do the same thing. You're the Prius of walkers!

      I would guess that lifting weights, especially with your legs, might help. I've read several comments on here that building muscle mass decreases efficiency. Or doing a different motion, like bicycling or stair climbing.

      If it makes you feel better, I weigh more than you and have just as hard a time losing weight (although I'm not NEARLY as disciplined with my diet).

    392. Re:Bike to work by b0bby · · Score: 1

      The law of conservation of mass says that I can't gain any more weight than what I actually put in

      That's true, but don't forget that your body is using water as well as the food when it makes fat; I'd guess that some foods could add more than their weight, when combined with the weight of the water.

    393. Re:Bike to work by Bender0x7D1 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The reason is your body is adaptive.

      WARNING: The following will be a really, really bad car analogy.

      So, think of your metabolism as a car engine running. Your metabolism when you are doing nothing, is like the car idling. When you decide to take part in exercise, you have to raise your metabolism to meet the extra demand. This is like increasing the RPMs on your engine when you actually want to drive forward.

      The big difference is your car only has 1 engine. Your body has an engine that adapts to the environment, demand placed on it and the fuel you give it. So, an athlete might have the equivalent of a Dodge Viper engine, while a casual athlete has a V6, and a couch potato has an engine from a Geo Metro. If you take all three people and have them sit there, and eat the same number of calories, the athlete will gain less weight than the couch potato. Why? A Viper engine at idle still consumes more fuel than a Geo Metro idling. The athlete's body has adapted so it can deliver a lot of energy on demand, so it needs more calories to maintain baseline activity.

      Now, here's where the adaptive part comes in. Your body has essentially one goal - to keep your brain alive. To do this, it will adapt to hostile environments by trying to consume fewer calories for other functions and build up reserves. So, if you have the Geo Metro engine and decide to go on a starvation diet, your body realizes that it isn't fuel efficient enough and, over a few weeks, will change it's metabolism to be a Vespa scooter engine. In addition, it will start throwing things out the window to reduce weight so it doesn't need to expend as much fuel to drive at the given speed - this is losing muscle which costs the body calories to keep around. So now, if you go back to your baseline diet, you gain more weight since your body is consuming fewer calories at rest. In addition, your body worries about the availability of gas stations, (since there has been a gas shortage), so it decides to carry a few few extra gas cans in the trunk - except it is extra fat, not gas cans. This is why going on and off diets causes people to gain weight - they slow down their metabolism and scare their body into storing energy reserves - exactly the opposite behavior of what they want.

      So, if you do eat fewer calories than you burn, then you will lose weight, since you have to use gas from the gas cans in your trunk, but you are also destroying your ability to burn the excess calories on the days you do eat more than you burn. In addition, since your body is downsizing your engine, you will have less strength, less speed, less ability to heal and will have reduced abilities overall. Now, is this going to be worse than being 100-200 pounds overweight? Probably not. But it won't be as good as someone who does things slowly, with an eye on convincing their body to maintain a larger "engine". To avoid some of the engine downsizing, don't "under-eat" by more than 200-300 calories a day so you don't "scare" your car (body). If you want to increase the size of your engine, stress your body a little bit more, and in different way every day. Remember, your body wants to keep your brain alive and it doesn't know you aren't running from a sabre-toothed tiger when you hit the treadmill. So, if your body thinks you need to be able to run a 7:00 min/mile to avoid predators, it will adapt to do that - but it will take time.

      This is why I really hate the physics diet. Yes, it is accurate that if you expend more calories than you eat, you will lose weight. It is also true that it is easier to monitor calorie intake than energy expended since it's hard to measure overall metabolic rate. However, you are destroying your bodies ability to perform physical activities and, by extension, it has some impact on your mental abilities. If you don't believe me, eat normally, run a few flights of stairs as fast as you can, (time it), and take some sort of mental test. A week or two later, under-eat for a few days so you are almost always

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    394. Re:Bike to work by dotancohen · · Score: 1

      I'm sorry you're an introvert.

      Don't be sorry for us (you insensitive clod!)

      Hey, I _am_ an insensitive clod, you introvert!

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    395. Re:Bike to work by CodeBuster · · Score: 1

      It is not just the calories that you burn while you are exercising, but the also the amount of calories that your body continues to burn during rest periods in between exercise sessions. A primary benefit of weight training is the creation of larger muscle masses which require additional calories continuously throughout the day. If you can coax your body into maintaining those larger muscles by regularly lifting weights then you will burn several times the number of calories of a skinny person who bikes and swims a lot when you are just sitting at your desk during the workday. Weight training is worth the effort, despite white the no-weights people say.

    396. Re:Bike to work by clone53421 · · Score: 1

      This is modded troll, but aren't slower vehicles legally supposed to pull over and let faster traffic pass them if they can't maintain something reasonably close to the speed limit?

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    397. Re:Bike to work by dotancohen · · Score: 1

      Motorists are allowed on the road as long as they play nice with the vehicles that weigh two orders of magnitude more than them - and no longer.

      There, fixed that for you.

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    398. Re:Bike to work by Dravik · · Score: 1

      Just about anybody, including all the guys, who have been in the army have become quite appreciative of scentless moist wipes.

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    399. Re:Bike to work by aliquis · · Score: 1

      Because he's trying to burn fat.

      While true that more protein increases the chances of keeping muscle and vegetables contain less energy and more nutrition, then why should he eat more carbohydrates on rest days?

      Also his recovery will get much worse if he don't get much carbohydrates after his workouts. If anything he'd put the carbohydrate rich food in the meal after workout and the vegetables at all other times.

      Because he's trying to burn fat.

      But that's just a question about energy intake, not source.

      Because he's trying to burn fat.

      But your advice is wrong, fat don't make you more fat, more energy makes you more fat. A higher energy intake from fat will get him a BETTER body composition than a low fat diet.

      Hopefully you ain't thinking about Omega 3/6 acids because it ain't even proved to be beneficial for your health. You get more than enough of the oils you need when you prepare a salad dressing with, say, olive oil. Other than that, *no* *fats* if you're trying to lose weight.

      No I'm not, I didn't mentioned any source. In any case you are wrong there as well. It's true that most people get plenty of omega 6 since most oils are rich of them, olive oil have more mono unsaturated fat acids so less of omega 3 and omega 6 but on the other side it have a pretty good omega 3 to omega 6 ratio.

      Of course they are beneficial for your health, without them you die, proof enough.

      Most people DON'T get enough omega 3 though, omega 3 only describes how the fat acids looks, there are multiple of them and all vegetable ones will be ALA while fish, seafood and some algae contain EPA and DHA.

      EPA and DHA are the fat acids you need, recommendations says at least 650 mg together and at least 200 mg of each. But your omega3 to omega6 ratio should be quite high to and since most people eat plenty of omega6 they need way more omega3.

      The problem with vegetarian omega3 (except from algae..) is that since it's all ALA the body have to convert it into EPA and DHA itself, I've seen studies for how efficient that is pointing out 0.2-15%. In one case with flax oil 5% turned into EPA and 0.5% into DHA.

      The body can convert between them in each correction, but it's much harder in one way, I think it was from EPA to DHA.

      I didn't say he can't. I said to do it occasionally. Not sure if you know anything at all about nutrition to be honest... The glycaemic index of melons is fairly high. That's the wrong type of energy to put into your body. You'll have a sugar rush and be hungry again before you can say "barbosa".

      GI have been proven to not affect shit, it's made to see the glucocemic load in people with diabetes, for normal people it doesn't affect anything.

      In any case, all of your advices are dead wrong, the only good part of them is the suggestion of low energy concentration energy sources such as vegetables because that way it will be easier to eat less for him.
      But still, it's not a matter as much of what he eats aslong as he consumes less energy than his body need, so say nuts and melons and some milk products for protein enough would work as well as he don't overfeed on them.

      Not sure if you know anything at all about nutrition to be honest.

      At least I'm not wrong, and someone who knows their shit may moderate the post accordingly.

      I've hanged around lots of forums with at least one guy which have studied nutrition and read lots of studies on the subject and used to write articles for magazines with new information.

      I could probably find some study references for most of my claims if I googled around for his answers or the information, but I'm to lazy.

      I've probably written like 20.000 posts on www.kolozzeum.com which is swedens biggest training forum, which proofs nothing but shows that chances are I've read something to ..

    400. Re:Bike to work by c0p0n · · Score: 1

      You're right. Couple of things though. Omega 3/6 acids are still not proved to be of any particular aid in terms of health, but they ain't the "evil" fats either. Also, notice that on a balanced diet you take all the good oily stuffs you need: nuts, salad (I personally use extra vifgin olive oil plus a bit of salt & pepper as only dressing), some fishes and things like avocado, like you pointed out. No need to look for as much as 30% in calorie intake in fats as long as you keep the oily ones coming in, but at a minimum. I don't eat anything coming out of a packet unless is a pure ingredient and not a pre-cooked meat for this sole reason.

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    401. Re:Bike to work by yabos · · Score: 1

      That's why I don't like the word diet. No I'm not on a diet, I eat like this all the time!! Diets are stupid and most people don't get it.

    402. Re:Bike to work by 74nova · · Score: 1

      This is in no way against the OP and make it flamebait if you must.

      I love being blamed for everything as an American, but we don't say "peckish", I don't know anyone who eats much porridge, I can only guess what a kabob shop is, and I have no idea what wheetabix is.

      maybe I should go have breakfast so I'm not so pissy :-)

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    403. Re:Bike to work by torkus · · Score: 1

      This is exactly why aneorexic girls (well, people in general but the majority....) stop losing weight after a certain point despite an extremely low caloric intake and quickly gain weight when they do eat anything of substance.

      It's not impossible, it's just a bad way to treat your body.

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    404. Re:Bike to work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you live in Florida, you can easily get enough exercise wrestling crocodiles and invading Cuba. That what you guy do for sport down there right?

    405. Re:Bike to work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not a good option for all cases. I work in San Diego for a defense contractor down near the coast by the Navy base, but live about 20 miles north. Why? Personally I'd love to live closer to work and nearer the coast, but I opted to live where I do to be in the Poway School District--the best school district in the area (and I hear one of the best in the entire state of California) so my daughter can get a better education. So while I'd love to bike to work, 20 miles down I-15 just isn't a viable biking option.

    406. Re:Bike to work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Are there no places where you can at least wash your face/armpits and/or dry off near to your work? You could also bring a change of clothes, then wash/dry up, and change clothes. Are there no bathrooms at your work where you can do that before your scheduled time to work? No gyms, parks, or any clean bathroom facilities in or near your work for that?

      Hell, just do a cursory google search for "biking to work" or similar and you'll find many a page for solving this problem.

    407. Re:Bike to work by aliquis · · Score: 1

      You will store kind of all fat you eat, what matters is how much of it you'll burn again... And if the body don't have any energy from food it will have to get it from somewhere else.

      GI doesn't affect things, fuck it's hard to find the correct posts with sources :/

      I'm too unintrested to find them for retards (not you), google kolozzeum king grub gi and whatever words may help find them and they will find up some time .. But I'm not awesome at english either so I don't know what words I should search for.

    408. Re:Bike to work by aliquis · · Score: 1

      So they should increase their energy intake slowly. Isn't part of the reasons also that they have lost quite a bit of stored glucogen and water and some muscle so they regain the water weight and have less muscle (since they went down to fast and didn't worked out) and therefor lower metabolism?

      Starvation and cutting up isn't the same thing ;(

    409. Re:Bike to work by torkus · · Score: 1

      Unfortunately, the calculations on cardio equipment are usually off by about a factor of 2x, meaning that they're giving a figure which is typically about double the number of calories actually being burned.

      Citation needed here. I've found cardio equipment to be somewhat LOW over a 30 minute jog compared to a polaris heart monitor. Granted anything without a heart rate monitor is not going to be particularly accurate.

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    410. Re:Bike to work by aliquis · · Score: 1

      I haven't said anything about building muscle?
      He will have the same problem building muscle on an energy deficiency no matter if he get there thru little food or to much cardio.

      If anything I've made plenty of posts in this thread commenting how people will not be able to build muscle on a deficiency.

      Is lowering your calorie intake and weight lifting 2 hours a day going to help? Not much.

      For losing weight and keeping muscle? Indeed it will.

    411. Re:Bike to work by aliquis · · Score: 1

      But glycemic index is useless (except eventually for people with diabetes.)

      Sure it tell you how fast blood glucose raises from 50 gram of carbohydrates of said source, but it doesn't mean shit when it comes to kind of any factors on health, weight loss, and so on.

      It's just a hype (rather was a hype) but it doesn't matter shit.

    412. Re:Bike to work by zakatov · · Score: 1

      Cardio only burns calories for the duration of the exercise, while weight lifting burns that, plus it elevates caloric expenditure during recovery (24-48hr post exercise), so if you had to choose, weights > cardio.

    413. Re:Bike to work by btm · · Score: 1

      +1 on biking to work.

      Although, I gained 30 pounds after I started biking 10mi round trip every day. I'm going to write that off to riding a fixie on Seattle hills.

    414. Re:Bike to work by mackil · · Score: 1

      I want to start doing, but I work in an office where they'd care if I came to work sweaty and stinky. What's the solution to this?

      Unfortunately a change of clothes and lots of Old Spice are the only answer if you live a good distance from your work place.

      My plan involves driving to work, then biking home. The next day I bike to work, and drive home. My commute is about 35 miles one way, so riding my bike both ways is rather out of the question.

    415. Re:Bike to work by aliquis · · Score: 1

      ... and I belived in the said benefits of GI like 6 years ago as well but since there are plenty of information how it doesn't matter now I don't care about it.

      Eat food with as much nutrition as possible in all cases, less energy to cut weight and more to increase it. Major part of what it is to it.

      More protein will to some extend give you more muscle while overeating and help you keep it while undereating.

      A higher fat intake at the expense of carbohydrate will give you a better body composition at the same energy intake but carbohydrates are better work your work outs and restoring glycogen.

    416. Re:Bike to work by russotto · · Score: 1

      Every day (unless the weather is really severe) I walk a fairly brisk 7 miles, occasionally increasing this to 10, 15, or even over 20 miles.

      Walking simply does not burn that many calories. Up to a point, walking faster is more efficient than walking slower, so by speeding up you don't burn that many more calories per hour (and may burn less calories per mile).

      An 8oz (250ml) glass of fruit juice contains about 150 calories. The 100g of muesli has 348 calories. The berries are mostly water but there's also sugar, so there's some calories there. A medium sized apple is 61 calories, an orange 80, a banana 105. That's at least 805 calories without including dinner, the alcoholic beverages, the skim milk (91 calories per cup), the berries. Vegetables are not non-caloric (despite their unpleasant taste) and whole-wheat pasta has just as many calories as the ordinary sort.

      So basically you're probably eating more than you think and burning less.

    417. Re:Bike to work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Muscle mass has been shown to improve overall metabolism, especially as you get older.

      That being said, I don't think there is anything simple about staying fit. Needs vary from person to person. Some people have a naturally higher metabolism than others, and their bodies burn calories more effortlessly.

      And it's not always the number of calories you consume, but often the type of calories, what interval you consume them, whether you're getting the right amount of protein, etc.

      Also, many people who work out do so incorrectly. I have a friend who used to work as a weight trainer. He said that most people who came to his gym ended up only getting small gains from weight training because they didn't know how to do it.

      He told me this: (1) Go slowly. I count 3 seconds down and 3 seconds up while doing push-ups, curls, dips, whatever. Doing 10 pushups slowly versus 30 as fast as you can go will yield much better results. (2) Your body adapts. Doing the same routine constantly will cause your body to plane out at some point, and you will never get past that level. I have a set of exercises that work various muscle groups, but I do them in a more-or-less random order throughout the week. Plus it doesn't hurt once in a while to throw in some completely different method -- like I recently tried out push-ups while keeping my feet on top of an aerobic ball. I spent the first set trying to keep my body from shaking from the movement of the ball. After that set, however, it wasn't as hard to stay up, and I could tell afterwards that my muscles had been worked in a way they weren't used to. (I.e. they hurt like the dickens.)

    418. Re:Bike to work by Exantrius · · Score: 1

      live uphill from work...

      ...Seriously. A number of years ago I used to bike to work 8 miles approx every day. it was downhill so other than slightly getting my blood pumping (and the occasional wind burn), I didn't have any adverse effects from the ride in. I generally wore a tshirt just for the ride in, then I'd change in the bathroom when I got to work. A couple times I was sweating a little bit, but I basically sat behind a building a couple away with my shirt off for 5-10 minutes until the sweat evaporated, then go in and rub down with a wet towel

      The only problem was it was a pain in the ass to get starched shirts to work on a regular basis so I didn't have to carry them in a backpack or something. I ended up stocking them in there a week at a time.

      The other benefit of this is you have to work your ass off on the way home, so you don't feel so bad about taking it easy in the morning.

    419. Re:Bike to work by dgcaste · · Score: 1

      According to this study, these interpolations may be inaccurate or lacking of additional variables such as people's TEE limited by their poor fitness. In other words, it seems you increase your energy expenditure only if you used to be a lazy slob. Otherwise, the major source of calorie burning comes from the direct cost of energy from the specific workout itself.

      I think this makes sense in an evolutionary sense, otherwise individuals that had to sweat to hunt would have eventually had to hunt more to satisfy their growing need for energy. Instead, the body got stronger and more efficient at handling the current caloric input.

    420. Re:Bike to work by xaxa · · Score: 1

      Or the ones who ride on the white line separating the lane from the shoulder, despite having a full, clear shoulder to bike in.

      I'm all about sharing the road, but cyclists need to learn that sharing means they share too, not that they get whatever the hell they want.

      Sometimes the "bike lane" isn't big enough for the cyclist. There are pictures on the net of people holding a bike upside-down over a "bike lane", with the handlebars extending over the lines. In these cases, it's safer to cycle down the line, so drivers are aware that the bike is outside the lane (otherwise, they might get the impression that the cyclist is in the lane, so they can be ignored).

      http://homepage.ntlworld.com/pete.meg/wcc/facility-of-the-month/August2005.htm
      http://homepage.ntlworld.com/pete.meg/wcc/facility-of-the-month/June2005.htm

    421. Re:Bike to work by c0p0n · · Score: 1
      Let me quote myself.

      Because he is trying to burn fat

      You are right on a few things, but they only apply on maintaining shape. Not *losing* * fat*.

      The idea behind a routine like this is to make your body get rid of fat by:

      * Burning it
      If you workout and your glycogen reserves are low, your body will start burning fat instead, and eventually it will start feeding on muscle (this is why body builders do very little if any cardio) after the readier fat sources are gone (even if you've got plenty of lard rolls). This WILL feel weird during the first weeks, but eventually your body gets used to it and uses your fat more efficiently.

      * Avoid storing new fat deposits
      You do this by lowering or nulling your sat fat intake and by eating very small portions of between your main meals. Your body won't think it's starving so it has no reason to store any fat, and obviously if you're not eating any dodgy fats they cannot accumulate on you either.

      Once, and only once your weight and body fat are correct, can you start eating fats and ch properly. While you may be right, it only applies at maintaining a body shape, and not changing it for the better or the worst

      The body can create protein out of nutrients and ch, but it can get it better and quicker of ready-made protein, so to speak. If you offer protein to your body after a workout you are aiding on to heal itself (for any workout damages your muscles). Of course you can eat only carbs and still get muscle grow, but you will start storing more fat at the same time.

      [on omega-x fats] In any case you are wrong there as well.

      There is only a statistical correlation between omega3/6 intake (as they need to go together) and beneficial effects. No link has yet been proved. Yet, if you get around actually reading my original post, I still mention oily fish to be eaten twice a week. You are vegan it seems, so you get your oils from somewhere else.

      Different objectives, different workouts and diets. If you want to either bulk up or lose fat, your diet must be unbalanced in some aspects (ie, consuming more proteins, or less ch, etc). If you want to keep your shape, your diet must be balanced. Obviously your exercise patterns need to correlate with those as well.

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    422. Re:Bike to work by Kimos · · Score: 1

      almost as much as showing up in a $80,000 ride.

      Actually, it mostly just makes them thing you have a small penis. You must be compensating for something, after all.

    423. Re:Bike to work by LuxMaker · · Score: 3, Funny

      Yes, some people eat in their sleep and don't even know it.

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    424. Re:Bike to work by Tetsujin · · Score: 1

      Bike to work. (Make living close enough to bike a priority.)

      I've been doing this lately and I want to say that I've really enjoyed it.

      It's helped tremendously that I've found a very good route - my old route went through a perpetual construction zone, crossed a couple busy streets, and led me through a maze of twisty little residential roads, all alike. It was also around 10 miles each way, with some fairly substantial hills.

      The new route is shorter - about 7 miles - there's just one little stretch with traffic (plus three crossings of fairly busy roads) and the rest is all fairly flat residential stuff. I also take a small shortcut that wasn't on the map - a foot-path connecting a cul-de-sac at the end of a residential street to a sort of industrial road. That cut about half a mile off my route and kept me off larger streets. Because the ride is easier and shorter, I've enjoyed it more and done it more frequently.

      The big surprise for me lately is how much I've enjoyed it. I enjoy getting places under my own power, I like the self-sufficiency of it. I also like that my route allows me to bypass traffic congestion (if all else fails I can get off and walk - pedestrian crossing takes time but it gives you right-of-way.)

      Comparatively, going to the gym is a chore. I hate the feeling that I'm taking a big chunk of time out of my day to do it, (never mind that biking takes just as much time and probably isn't as good a workout) as I have other things I want to get done. Biking to work becomes a natural part of my day. "Oh, I have to go to work now."

      If you don't live close enough to bike to work... Well, that sucks. I may be in that boat some day when I change jobs...

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    425. Re:Bike to work by kesuki · · Score: 1

      i can't handle water, i grew up on kool-aid, soda pop, and chocolate milk.

      blame my parents for spoiling us kids, but i'm not the only one in the family who doesn't drink plain water often.

    426. Re:Bike to work by ultrasonik · · Score: 1

      I bike to work in Hot Hot Arizona. I wear athletic shorts and shirt on the bike and keep my work clothes in a bag in my pannier. When I get to work I go straight to the bathroom and change. Not only does biking to work help you to stay in shape, it can increase your productivity by getting your blood flowing in the morning. And during the bike home from work I peddle out all of my work frustrations so I can arrive home with a clear and peaceful head.

    427. Re:Bike to work by GeffDE · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      1) OMG. I made a typo. Twice.
      2) I am in the business. What exactly are you? I am a biomedical engineer. I understand body mechanics and physiology. I understand the nuances. But a nice ad hom anyway.
      3) The equations still have predictive power, or they wouldn't have been published! I read the paper were Mifflin and his group described this equation. At least, I used the paper referenced here: http://www.ajcn.org/cgi/content/abstract/51/2/241. The paper does not give any error estimates for the equations. It does say that the variables account for 70% of the variability of the data, but that does not mean that the equations are 30% wrong. It means that their equations are at most 30% wrong. And for them to be 30% wrong, it means that the variables already accounted for have no predictive power towards any other variables that account for the other 30% of the variability.
      4) No, I am extrapolating. There is data there, even though the data is not drawn from the same population.
      5) We do not know that he is very abnormal. He has claimed to be abnormal. I am claiming that those claims are bogus. Assume for a minute that he has an REE of 0 kcal/day. As I also stated elsewhere, a 380 lb man walking for an hour requires a lot of energy, depending on how he walks; but on average, he'd burn about 600-700 calories in an hour. 2 hours of circuit training and weights come out to roughly 2400 calories. That's a lot more than his daily caloric intake, even with an REE of zero. I used the REE value initially to illustrate quickly why his claims were fishy. But even if we throw those out, there is still a numerical disagreement. Are you going to try to say that he is burning fewer calories exercising than people think he is because he's overweight? All of those estimates come from understanding biomechanics and biophysics; the equations are much more predictive because they are derived from physical principles.

      So let's sum up here. You looked at one part of my claim and then proceeded to "sink to my level" and provide a singularly stunning ad hominem attack. Bravo. I was a complete dick to some stranger on the internet based on cool hard facts and the heady, but oh-so-manly scent of my arrogance. Indeed I did bother to think about how much guff this AC has gotten for his weight, but I wasn't calling him a fatty; I was saying that his numbers don't add up. And I provided evidence, numbers. I didn't call him fat, I called him a liar. I never passed any judgment about his weight. Finally, when you called me on my "ignorance," I stated that regardless of his REE he would be using more energy than he could derive from what he eats. Whoops, why did you forget to talk about that?! As you should have read, I updated my claims with some numbers.

      Now, I can dispense with the ad hominem attacks. I don't need them because I won. It was valiant of you to defend an overweight gentleman who claims to be actively trying to change his weight to no avail. I really empathize with the guy. I was a fat kid, and I know it took 3 years and puberty (mmm, testosterone) to slim down to a weight that I liked. But if he is working out like he says he is, and eating like he says he is, then he would not still be 380 lbs with a lot of flab.

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    428. Re:Bike to work by kesuki · · Score: 1

      the problem is breakfast cereal is just empty carbs and sugar, some are 'whole grain' but many of them are corn.

      whole grain corn is what they give feed lot cattle for 6 months to get them to double their weight. BTW i didn't say i didn't eat breakfast, I said i stopped eating breakfast cereal. big difference. peanut butter bread has plenty of protein, but is still a bit high on sugar, unless you buy sugar free peanut butter..

      eggs are a good breakfast too, or egg beaters to not get the cholesterol... but breakfast cereal is the worst.

    429. Re:Bike to work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      On the same lines, you must think why do motorists always have a condenscending attitude of honking if a biker is riding uphill.

    430. Re:Bike to work by soren100 · · Score: 1

      There was a study done where they paid prisoners to eat massive amounts of food to become truly obese. Then they studied what their bodies did after they stopped making them eat so much. The bodies of the prisoners rejected all the extra weight and they naturally came back to their normal weight within 6 months and without extra exercise. The prisoners bodies would actually raise their metabolisms to help burn off the extra fat

      The scientists found that there is a "set point" for weight in people. For many obese people the scientists studied, their body goes into "starvation mode" when they reduce their weight below their normal weight, so that the resting metabolism drops far beyond normal and food cravings start coming at an extreme level.

      What the OP posted may well be true -- not everyone's body works the same as yours, and it has been scientifically confirmed (I am too lazy to search for the study).

    431. Re:Bike to work by wclacy · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Screw calories! Cut the carbs! Your body needs some fat and carbs, but unless you are really active the carbs will convert directly to fat. Fiber and protein will not make you fat yet they are counted in the calorie count of food. I have never seen a fat person that didn't consume lots of carbs. Yet I have seen many fat people that eat almost no fat.(but they are still fat)

      From the age of 20 to 25 I gained 10 pounds per year eating mainly carbs because I couldn't afford to buy meat. Then I started to eat less carbs and started just eating the food I liked.(fruits vegetables, High fiber grains, and meats) I lost 30 pounds in 4 months and have kept it off for 8 years.(not to mention breaking the cycle of gaining 10 pounds per year)

    432. Re:Bike to work by cparker15 · · Score: 1

      Are you in Boston, by any chance?

      The cyclists (mostly couriers, I think) around here pay no attention to traffic lights, one-way signs, or pedestrians crossing the road. There are lots of one-ways in Boston where pedestrians just wouldn't expect someone to come barreling down the street at them the wrong way. I've actually been hit by a cyclist going the wrong way down a one-way street. I had a severely bloody nose and a sprained ankle thanks to that loser (who also fell, scraped her knee, got up, started screaming at me for “not paying attention”, then just sped off).

      I have absolutely no sympathy for the cyclists who get killed doing stupid things like running red lights and going the wrong way down a one-way. None whatsoever.

      If you're a cyclist going the wrong way down a one-way in Boston and you see a tall man taking a swing at you, yeah, that's me. Obey the traffic rules or don't ride. It's that simple.

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    433. Re:Bike to work by goofballs · · Score: 1

      Never more than will fit on a standard dinner plate with room to spare. No seconds, no dessert, no sweets, cakes, or cookies. Apart from copious tea, coffee, and moderate alcoholic beverages, that's about it.

      My goal is to consume no more than about 2000 calories per day, while my walk should burn up well over 1000. Net intake, therefore, should be around 1000. The UK government says a man of my size and age needs about 2300 calories to maintain weight; amusingly, the US government cites a much higher figure.

      In the last three months, I have lost a grand total of 6 pounds. Exactly 2 pounds each month, by the way. According to all the "expert" information I have read, this too is impossible. My reply is the same as the bumblebee's when the experts proved it couldn't fly - "Eppur si muove"! If theory contradicts the facts, then the theory is inadequate - which, in this case, it plainly is.

      before you say something is "impossible", you need to actually keep track of what you're eating - not "some" of this, "maybe" one of those, a "standard dinner plate" worth... with accounting like that, you have no idea how much you're really consuming. heck, a standard dinner plate can probably hold about 4 servings of chicken, "with room to spare".

      counting up the foods you list- keeping in mind that study after study show that people eat more than they think they do- you come in at about 1700 calories for the food you list. add one alcoholoic beverage, and just one coffee with cream and sugar, you're practically at 2000 calories. add more coffees, tea with sugar, slightly larger portions here and there...

    434. Re:Bike to work by somersault · · Score: 1

      That's why people recommend that you either eat more smaller meals or have healthy snacks throughout the day, to keep your metabolism going. Just cutting out food entirely will cause your metabolism to slow like you say, but if you eat smaller meals more regularly then your body will know it doesn't need to store as much fat. Doing proper exercise will also mean your body needs to convert fat into energy, though I'm confused at how much of your energy comes from say carbs/fat if you go out running, are you eventually running on pure fat, and does your body at any point start breaking down muscle to provide energy?

      Personally I usually just eat whatever I like, but last week read about the using more calories than you eat, which does make sense a little, though you are also right that your metabolism comes into it a lot. My metabolism must be pretty good for me to not be a fat bastard by now, because I have a reputation for eating a lot but not being fat.. I have been a constant 13.5 stone (189 pounds) for the last few years, and even for the first month and a half that I started walking to work instead of driving, but now that I am trying to eat less I noticed I was more like 13.25 stone on monday (though it can still be back to 13.5 depending on how much food and drink I have in me :p ). I'm quite happy to put on more weight as long as it's muscle. When I first started university about 7 years ago I think I was around 11 stone if not less (that is, around 150 pounds). I'm 6' 1" and moderately built (used to be really scrawny until I was about 15 and started doing the occasional bit of weights).

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    435. Re:Bike to work by aliquis · · Score: 1

      Screw calories! Cut the carbs! Your body needs some fat and carbs, but unless you are really active the carbs will convert directly to fat. Fiber and protein will not make you fat yet they are counted in the calorie count of food.

      Wrong, it's not like you can choose to only overeat protein, if you overeat at all you're very likely to store more body fat than you burn, and if you undereat no matter what you eat you're more likely to burn more fat than you store.

      It's true that less carbohydrates and more protein and fat seem to be better for your body composition, but the major difference are made from the energy balance and nothing else.

      I have never seen a fat person that didn't consume lots of carbs. Yet I have seen many fat people that eat almost no fat.(but they are still fat)

      Look at their energy intake, not what it's made up of. Maybe drink lots of soft drinks or something.

      From the age of 20 to 25 I gained 10 pounds per year eating mainly carbs because I couldn't afford to buy meat. Then I started to eat less carbs and started just eating the food I liked.(fruits vegetables, High fiber grains, and meats) I lost 30 pounds in 4 months and have kept it off for 8 years.(not to mention breaking the cycle of gaining 10 pounds per year)

      Which in the end was because you went into an energy deficiency instead of surplus on your new diet, also maybe the switch made you more serious and actually TRYING.

      I find it very unlikely that part of the equation wasn't you telling yourself "fuck this, I can't keep on increasing weight and will have to lose some, so I'll start to eat more clean and try to shred of some fat", and therefor actually eating less and not fill upp all the time. Correct?

    436. Re:Bike to work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Um, someone else might point this out but when you do strength training (i.e., heavy weight, 2 - 5 reps and maybe 2 or 3 sets) your body also consumes a lot of energy repairing the muscle, which means that you will burn a lot of calories post-workout, even the next day, just repairing yourself. This step is not that big of a factor when you do only cardio because your muscles are not as 'damaged' (i.e., you aren't building muscle). So while burning ~500 Cal on a bike vs. ~200 Cal strength training, it may look like the bike is the best bet for burning calories, but in reality the next day you will continue to burn calories if you do strengh training. This is a really good idea if you can't bike to work or are only free to exercise for short periods of time.

    437. Re:Bike to work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Muscle mass doesn't burn that much though, only a couple more calories per pound per day. The difference in calorie burn between aerobic and strength training exercises dwarfs the gain by simply having muscle mass. This article is pretty informative:

      http://knol.google.com/k/runners-world/boosting-your-metabolism/2vpm2llkhc633/5#

      It's definitely good to mix the two, but aerobics is much better for weight loss.

    438. Re:Bike to work by ottothecow · · Score: 1
      While I agree with you that cyclists should follow the rules of the road, not looking both ways when crossing the street is your own damn fault. I don't care if it is a one way, it only takes a second and should be a habit that is firmly rooted in your mind--before you step off the curb, look both ways. I have seen cars go the wrong way down one ways (in downtown chicago no less) as well as bikers and while they are clearly out of line in going the wrong direction, the fact that they were wrong isn't going to be much consolation after you get run over for forgetting advice we give two year olds.

      As to following traffic rules on a bike, it can be hard. If I am approaching a stop sign with cars in the vicinity, I will try to stop and go in the order prescribed by stop sign rules. This only works out about half the time. The other half the cars will stop and wait and then wave (even if they were fully stopped before I got to the intersection) and continue to wait until I go out of order (or continue without coming to a full stop). Of course this is probably due to peoples experiances with cyclists who would just blow through the stop even with traffic present (of course I see cars not stopping or coming to half-assed stops all the time where I live and it scares the shit out of me to think whether or not they would see a cyclist)

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    439. Re:Bike to work by gnick · · Score: 1

      You know what would be great ? All us introverts should get together some time. No party people allowed. And then we'll have a party.

      In other news, I may need medication :P

      That's a terrific idea - maybe 100 or so introverts converging. But it may be hard to host.

      Who has a house with a living room that can entertain 7 people with 93 bathrooms for everyone else to hide in while they're recovering from the socialization exposure?

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    440. Re:Bike to work by Fjandr · · Score: 1

      I don't think I'd agree. As far as I can find, oxygen efficiency can vary greatly from metabolic efficiency, and it doesn't seem like the factors that contribute to the latter are very well understood. That makes correlating it to a metric (heart rate) that is highly variable within even the same individual a bit tenuous.

      The amount of oxygen needed to undertake a given task doesn't decrease with increased cardiovascular efficiency. It remains about the same. It just means more oxygenated blood is pumped per heartbeat, and as muscle mass increases a higher percentage of oxygen available in the blood is extracted by the muscles. The Olympic runner and fridge-guy are both having the same amount of oxygen delivered to their muscles to do the work. Fridge-guy's heart just has to work faster because its stroke volume is not as high as the Olympic runner.

      Even if heart rate did correlate directly with metabolic rate, the more fit individual is going to have a higher muscle mass. That mass burns calories 24/7 which means even if a given workload required fewer input calories the overall rate of calories burned is probably a wash due to the overall higher metabolic rate of the fit individual.

    441. Re:Bike to work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Biking to work is an excellent start. Getting out and riding for hours as an activity in and of itself is even better. Cycling is a very gear-intensive sport with plenty of room for geeking if you so choose. Materials science is one aspect (bike parts are made from common and exotic stuff from steel alloys (not just cro-moly) to Titanium to carbon fiber; aluminum and magnesium are very definitely in there as well. Mechanical engineering: gears and their ratios; the derailleurs; Pedals; Bike shoes and cleats for clipless pedals; position and fit bring in mechanical efficiency of power transfer as well as aerodynmaics.

      Don't forget the excuses to go out and go somewhere fun. Depending on where you live it may not be neccessary to suffer through climbing hills (they can bring their own joy of suffering and accomplishment). Also an excuse to eat (somewhat less than you burned off hopefully: riding 6 miles at 6 mph is not an excuse to consume 4 slices of pizza, but perhaps you can justify that if you do 50 miles at 15 mph average).

      Find a bike club and find lots of different folks. In NYC the 5 Borough Bicycle Club www.5bbc.org is a well-established active club, there are several clubs in NJ and Long Island (see www.bikelongisland.com) and every other major area and more. Remember Google is your friend: just put in "bike club" and your city...

      I'm a ride leader with the 5BBC. I love to find new places to eat and attractions to go to. How about a bike ride to an amusement park? That's my next trip. The club runs a bike trip to the beach every weekend all summer long, low speed low mileage flat terrain. Other clubs do similar things.

      Oh and don't forget tools. Geek out with chain tools, cone wrench, pedal wrench, tire "irons", set of hex/Allen wrenches (maybe two with different handles), sprocket wrench, truing stand, torque wrench (for screwing stuff onto carbon fiber frames), 3 different kinds of tire valve and the pump attachments for same -- and don't forget the floor pump and the portable pump to bring along. Different kinds of lubricants for different parts of the bike. Ball bearings are inside all manner of stuff on the bike ...then you move to more geekiness with navigation and of course cyclometers and gathering data with speedometer and power meter.

      Exercise and plenty of stuff to geek obsess over when the weather isn't suitable for riding (don't forget clothing! cold weather and warm weather ). Also lots to soak up all your spare cash and more.

    442. Re:Bike to work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Get a rear rack for your bike and either panniers, e.g. Ortliebs are waterproof, or e.g. Outdoor Research dry compressible sacks and e.g. a net of bungee cords, check your local bike shop (LBS). Carry a change of clothes, a hair dryer, a towel, and deoderant. When you get to work, use paper towels and soap, wash your pits, dry your hair, freshen up, change clothes etc. in the men's room. Reverse it for the trip home. You'll need a place to let your riding clothes dry during the day, be inventive. You can ride year round, google 'icebike'.

    443. Re:Bike to work by gnick · · Score: 1

      Buy a huge SUV big enough to fit your bike in. Then drive to work with the bike. Then ride your bike home. Then take a cab to pick up your SUV and drive home. Simple!

      No way am I paying for a cab to go get my SUV. I drive it to work with my bike in the back and then tie a chain to my bike so that I can tow the SUV home. Better work-out, no stink at work. It's a win-win!

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    444. Re:Bike to work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...and then go and play a round of golf 3 times a week.
      You will burn about 2000+ Kcal per 18 hole round (walking obviously). :)

    445. Re:Bike to work by somersault · · Score: 1

      I don't think you need to cut the walking - besides, you probably enjoy it - I know that I missed walking home from work the other night when I got a lift). But to burn away fat quicker I'd expect you need to do a bit more strenuous exercise too, like a bit of cycling or jogging - or if you do weights it's meant to speed up the rate at which you burn calories for the next few hours as well. If you do the same thing over and over your body gets pretty used to it like jockner says, so varying the types of exercise you do (ie which muscle groups you use) is more likely to build muscle, and probably also better for burning fat. Some posters above were talking about marathon runners not being any more muscly than your average schmoe, yet they have much more stamina - so as you use muscles regularly they will presumably be becoming more efficient and therefor will be burning less energy to do the same amount of work.. so varying the muscle groups will help keep everything slightly less inefficient.. heh.

      Personally I don't particularly care what weight I am - as long as I'm looking and feeling healthier with regular exercise then I know that I'm getting some benefit. I feel much less lethargic with regular walking than when I drive everywhere, and while my weight hasn't changed dramatically with walking to work over the last 2 months, I have gone down a belt notch or two (I expect I'm losing fat but at the same time putting on a bit of muscle in my legs). I occasionally do a bit of weights, and have been trying to work my core as well with ab crunches every couple of days (and recently looked up a few other exercises to strengthen other parts of my core, I think my lower back muscles could do with being a bit stronger - I should really get one of those inflatable ball thingies). I'm pretty happy with my results so far and am just going to continue with the same kind of idea until the weather gets worse, then I'll have to find something to replace the walking..

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    446. Re:Bike to work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The difference in caloric consumption between a well-muscled person and a scrawny marathoner is minimal. Muscle only burns roughly 3 calories more per pound per day than fat (so if you add 20 pounds of muscle, you can eat an extra 60 calories a day, which is pretty much an apple; over the course of a year, those 20 pounds of muscle instead of 20 pounds of fat will only help you lose 7 pounds). Your metabolic rate, which will improve with ANY exercise (the optimal exercise varies between people), has a much greater bearing on your caloric consumption than your muscle mass.

      If you take in fewer calories than a baseline (like say eat only 1200 calories a day), your basic metabolic rate will crash and dieting will get you nowhere.

    447. Re:Bike to work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Bike to work. (Make living close enough to bike a priority.)

      I want to start doing, but I work in an office where they'd care if I came to work sweaty and stinky. What's the solution to this?

      P90X. It's hard as hell but it works.

    448. Re:Bike to work by amccaf1 · · Score: 1

      Lastly; you're a geek, right? Why haven't you picked up a book on fitness training (specifically, one meant for fitness trainers)?

      I dunno; for a good workout, surely he'd have to lift something heavier than a book.

      (And stop calling me Shirley.)

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    449. Re:Bike to work by ChrisA90278 · · Score: 1

      You need to do both. Weight training, (or more accurately "strength training" because you can do it without weights.) will build muscle mass and if you have more muscle mass aerobic traing is be more effective and burn more energy.

      The key is to balance it. Even if you stick to just one sport, say bicycling you can use that as your strength training if you spend time doing hills and leveragae your way up using arm and back and leg muscle. Also weights can be used for aerobic trainning if you use lighter weights and move faster.

      The goal should be to do a wide range of activity at least 20 minutes a day on average. Don't do just one thing. try not to exercise the same body areas two days in a row. It's durring the recovery period (24 hours after excercise) is when the mass develops. So take a hike (or run depending on ability) one day, swim the next then do the weights. Mix it up. It's better for the body and just as importently mixing it up helps prevent bordom and burnout and quitting.

    450. Re:Bike to work by ahoehn · · Score: 1

      "I'm talking about the type who scream at motorists to "share the road" because "bikes have the same rights as motor vehicles," and then proceed to run the next four red lights.

      I'll grant that bicyclists are no more immune to prick'ism than car drivers. But, more often then not the root cause of that yelling is fear.

      If you, a car driver, run into a bicycle your car might be dented. If I, a bicyclist, am run into by a car, I'll likely at least suffer some broken bones, if not death.

      Bicycleists freak out when they feel a car is endangering them because every bicyclist should be scared shitless of being run over.

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    451. Re:Bike to work by LaskoVortex · · Score: 0

      You must be compensating for something, after all.

      You should try compensating for your inability to spot humor.

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    452. Re:Bike to work by nkpatel · · Score: 1

      Heck yeah! We've been CrossFit'ing for a while now, in a friend's garage. I feel great and in better shape than I've been in a long time.

    453. Re:Bike to work by Old+Breadbutt · · Score: 1

      I bike to work too. I can't stand any type of exercise that involves a gym or standing still. Biking to work and for fun on the weekends is great. Gets you out of the house, can be done alone or in groups, and you can see things you will never see from a car. I live in the bay area, which makes cycling even that much better. The Oakland/Berkeley hills are just blocks from my home. Riding up is quite a workout, but the views up there are well worth the effort.

    454. Re:Bike to work by Kintanon · · Score: 1

      I've been active in the Crossfit community and on the boards for a few months and have been flirting with it for over a year. But with Jiujitsu and other stuff going on I haven't been able to start until now. Been doing a 5x5 strength training routine instead. We're officially starting this Friday. Putting together my pullup/dip/squat rack/etc... station this weekend.

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    455. Re:Bike to work by Boigaz · · Score: 1

      i bike to work daily - about 8 miles. to get around the sweatiness problem i joined a gym a block from where i work. that my job contributes towards a gym membership helps! i shower just before i get in to work and carry a change of clothes with me. if i didn't bike to work i would get no exercise at all since i have no interest in working out or running on a treadmill. having the bike as part of my daily routine keeps me fit. i wholeheartedly agree with the comment about prioritizing living close to work. to me close means within 10 miles.

    456. Re:Bike to work by Jesus_666 · · Score: 1

      No, it's cool. We just need enough corners with chars people can sit in the whole evening.

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    457. Re:Bike to work by Jesus_666 · · Score: 1

      don't respect right of way

      Neither do I. I respect the fact that cars are much heavier and deadlier than me, so they always go first. I have found that to be a very sane policy.

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    458. Re:Bike to work by saskboy · · Score: 1

      And if more people wore helmets, the death rate would plummet, I'm certain.

      A bike helmet saved my head when a van hit me, and I had no serious injuries aside from a very bruised thigh that needed draining.

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    459. Re:Bike to work by kdemetter · · Score: 1

      In other words, you'll burn more kilojoules at rest.

      This is a myth that's been going around for quite some time. A more heavily muscled person doesn't burn any more calories at rest. The person can burn more calories while exercising due to the ability to lift/carry/etc against more resistance, thus using more energy, but there's absolutely no basis for claiming that a well muscled person burns more calories when sitting on the couch.

      He didn't say it was because of more muscles. It's because of higher metabolism .

      Your metabolism increases when your body needs it to increase.Like getting up early and go running , before breakfast. I can assure you , you will be famished by the time you eat breakfast. Only problem is that you might be so hungry you want to eat more. Wich would cancel out the effect.

    460. Re:Bike to work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Marked as funny, but if you can put your bike on PT this is easy to do. And exactly what I do.

    461. Re:Bike to work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And I can sympathize with them when that is the case, but when I said "full, clear shoulder" I meant it was motor-vehicle wide with absolutely no low-hanging obstacles of any kind. IE, Optimus Prime would have no problems driving in it (ignoring the fact that he could just run down anything that _was_ in his way, which there isn't), and yet they chose to ride the white line. Or perhaps a better example, is two motorcyclists could ride side-by-side in it and not interfere with traffic.

      Maybe their reasoning is that if they were to use the shoulder, any emergency vehicles would have to slow down till they were able to get out of the way, but that's just as true when they are riding the white line.

    462. Re:Bike to work by Jesus_666 · · Score: 1

      But - at least in the UK and most other English-speaking countries - cyclists use the road by right while motorists use it by license. The point about a license is you don't have a right - that it can be taken away from you.

      However, in Germany you can lose your driver's license while riding a bicycle. The ratio is that someone who's unfit to operate a bicycle also is unfit to operate a car. Granted, you have to really screw up (like causing an accident while riding drunken) but being on a bicycle does not make you sacrosanct.

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    463. Re:Bike to work by Jesus_666 · · Score: 1

      Haha, that is not a hill, just a slight incline.

      In North Germany that'd be considered a rather high hill. People from Holland would feel humbled by the colossal mountain before them.

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    464. Re:Bike to work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Ya what the FUCK, MORON! What is that like 80 cents for the fries? You just wasted 40 FUCKING CENTS you fucking sick bastard!

      JESUS FUCK! AHHHHHHHHHHHHH OVERREACTION!

    465. Re:Bike to work by avandesande · · Score: 1

      It's easier than that, they burn the food in an oxygen bomb and measure the temperature differental.

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    466. Re:Bike to work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Flaphjack is right - build the muscle mass and the standing heart rate metabolism will burn more while 'at rest' in front of the PC

    467. Re:Bike to work by Archtech · · Score: 1

      Thanks for your sincere, helpful reply (and those of the others who have offered advice). It makes a nice change from the complacent "it's all your own fault, you fat lazy greedy lying slob" crew.

      But there's a logical flaw. I admit to a long history of trying to lose weight. I lost over 40 pounds in 1974 - and kept it off for over 5 years, until I got married, had children, and found myself too busy trying to earn a living to worry about my health.

      What's this flaw, then? Simply that I have arrived at my present regime (diet plus exercise) as a result of 40 years' trial and error, plus wide reading. What I have described in my previous post is simply the least radical regime on which I can lose any weight at all. You guys are now telling me I am overdoing it, and need to go back to eating more and exercising less (or at least differently). But that simply means quitting. When I ate an extra 300 calories a day, or ate what I do now without exercising, I didn't lose any weight at all. There is no margin at all for backing off.

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    468. Re:Bike to work by Hairy+Heron · · Score: 1

      Yet last year I lost 30 lbs by changing none of my activity levels but I took in 800 less calories per day and my story is in no way unique. Apparently your "observed facts" don't fit reality as much as you think.

    469. Re:Bike to work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      LOL you know you sound like the 3 guys at my gym that are just like you. They come in the do some Circuit Training, they do some cardio, one guy does push ups even in the sauna, and for years their bodies have remained exactly the same. One guy is even a medical doctor.

      However here is the thing. They have been doing the exact same thing for years in the exact same pattern. First off look around at fat garbage men, fat waitresses, etc. Waitresses walk miles every day, garbage men lift a lot of weight every day. Thats just it, the human body adapts and quickly usually 2-3 months. Every 2-3 months you need to change what your doing and challenge your body again. Then you might hire a personal trainer as well. the other thing these guys have in common none of them are doing the exercises correctly. The one that does push ups in the sauna. well his but never moves, just his shoulders so he is nor really doing push ups.

      Then look seriously at your diet. Every single thing that goes into your body, including condiments, Ketchup or Mayo for example are loaded. I was looking at some different marinades last night for chicken at the grocery, the marinade was 24 calories per serving, serving size 1 tsp. Yeah like 1 tsp really covers a whole chicken breast. More than likely I would use the whole bottle and let it soak into the chicken. easily adding on 200-300 calories just to a piece of chicken. BBQ sauce as well.

    470. Re:Bike to work by kaizokuace · · Score: 1

      well the weird thing about the smaller guy is that yes he was trying to gain muscle mass (which was very difficult for him to aquire) but he wasnt forcing himself to eat. If we ate food and he downs a good size meal about an hour later maybe 2 he is so hungry that he looks like he is gonna die. I think his metabolism is too fast for his own good.

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    471. Re:Bike to work by wclacy · · Score: 1

      First off you body doesn't process all calories the same way. Your body doesn't count calories why should you! Your body uses protein, fat, carbs, and fiber in different ways. There are many good nutritionists and doctors that will tell you that counting calories is flawed, but it is an easy way of telling people how much to eat.

      "Look at their energy intake, not what it's made up of. Maybe drink lots of soft drinks or something."
      Exactly my point! People have been told to avoid fat because they will end up fat. Soft Drinks have no fat, but lots of sugar. Maybe if they would eat some more fat they wouldn't be as hungry all the time and eat all those low fat high carb snacks.

      When it comes to my past experience of losing weight I actually didn't change the amount of food I was eating. While I was gaining 10 pounds a year I was not drinking soft drinks, or eating candy. What I was eating that was making me fat was lots of pasta, potatoes, rice, and bread.(It was basically a low fat diet) At the time I couldn't afford much meat, and without enough protein you lose muscle mass which slows down your metabolism.

      Now I eat all I want, I just eat the things I really like. I find it interesting that all the good foods are more expensive.(Steak, Seafood, Fruits, and Vegetables). This is why many rich people don't have weight problems, and yet many of the working class people who can only afford to eat fillers(rice, potatoes, bread, pasta) are over weight. Yet they think they are eating right because these fillers are low fat.

    472. Re:Bike to work by aschlemm · · Score: 1

      I'm logging a little over 34 miles a day when I bike to work round trip and have my bike equipped with a rack so I can carry waterproof Ortlieb panniers. I have a head and tail light and wear a bright safety green jacket so I'm visible on the road even in low light situations. I carry some extra bike clothes in case it rains in one pannier, and have my street closes in the other pannier. Since I live up in the Pacific Northwest we can get lots of rain and so no bike is complete IMHO without proper fenders being installed. I keep a towel and toiletry kit at work and have showers available in the building I work in. I also have a spare set of shoes at work so I don't need to carry any shoes with me when I bike except my bike shoes which I wear. I know of another colleague in my building that keeps a spare suit case of clothes under his desk so they don't even need panniers and can get by with a backpack although you eventually need to take the suitcase them to do laundry.

    473. Re:Bike to work by Gonoff · · Score: 1

      Do you still have any of your own teeth?

      If someone really can't 'handle' water, they should get phycotherapy...

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    474. Re:Bike to work by stevencbrown · · Score: 1

      Polaris heart monitor? Is that the nuclear version of a polar heart monitor?

    475. Re:Bike to work by tachin1 · · Score: 1
      I am currently overweight but Im working on losing that weight, in the last two months I've noticeably lost weight and keep dropping.

      In order to lose weight, you need to burn more calories than you consume each day, this means that your diet is more important than your exercise routine. (Lets say that you spent 300 calories biking to and from work, eating some hostess cupcakes will easily replenish that, so you can just drop the hohos along with the biking and you'll get the same benefit.)

      Weight training will give you the benefit of burning more calories while at rest, so the results are not immediate, but they payoff in the long run.

      So the best way to lose weight is to:

      Start by dropping 500 calories from your diet each day, (drop the snacks and the sodas or eat lightly smaller portions).

      Get some exercise going, any exercise is good but strength training will get you more results. Make sure you use proper form and avoid over training, you can easily find info on this.

      After you notice a plateau in your weight loss, drop an extra 500 calories a day by changing what you eat, its time to start counting calories, if you keep note of what you eat and how many calories you're consuming it will be easy to see what to substitute for example: using mustard for your sandwich instead of mayo.

      Finally, don't buy something just because its low fat, instead check the amount of calories it has, low fat does not mean low calorie.

      Once you start checking the calories of the products you buy , always check the portions, you'll find that juice sometimes has more calories than soda, and other interesting things.

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    476. Re:Bike to work by tachin1 · · Score: 1

      Seriously though, sounds like you are at your balance point. all you need to do is watch your diet and along with the exercise over a long amount of time, you will see the benefits.

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    477. Re:Bike to work by DuckDodgers · · Score: 1

      Nice theory, but I disagree.

      My weight doesn't stay constant. If I don't keep militant control of my diet, I gain fat, period. So my life is a constant cycle of bulking up to 235 to 240 pounds and experiencing slight to mild pain just buttoning my pants, and then watching my eating careful until everything is comfortable. Then I stop paying attention, revert to my bad habits, and repeat the cycle.

      I think many people are gradually gaining or losing weight, it just isn't obvious to them or anyone else unless the change is very rapid.

    478. Re:Bike to work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      bicycling and yoga. you'll be fine.

    479. Re:Bike to work by DuckDodgers · · Score: 1

      But how much energy you burn doesn't matter. The only thing which matters are how much you burn vs how much you eat.

      And making more money than you earn is the secret to becoming wealthy, and avoiding death is the secret to eternal life.

      Just because a statement is true, does not mean it contains any useful information. The devil is in the details.

    480. Re:Bike to work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I use a bicycle powered by an engine to get to work and then I pedal most of the way home. That way I arrive non-sweaty, but get a workout on the way home

    481. Re:Bike to work by DuckDodgers · · Score: 1

      7 kcal per hour is 168 calories per day per pound of muscle. I've never read anything to back that up. Check: http://www.thefactsaboutfitness.com/news/cals.htm

      The 100 extra calories burned per day per pound of muscle is a myth, a more accurate picture is 6 calories per pound. 20 extra pounds of muscle burn 120 calories per day, not counting the energy you burn building and maintaining the muscle by exercise.

    482. Re:Bike to work by DuckDodgers · · Score: 1

      http://www.thefactsaboutfitness.com/news/cals.htm

      The amount of calories burned by muscle mass at rest has been greatly exaggerated. The best evidence indicates the muscle burns an extra 6 calories per day, per pound. That can't hurt, but a few more spoonfuls of Wheaties completely offsets the advantage.

      The workouts can burn lots of calories, the muscles at rest cannot.

    483. Re:Bike to work by jahudabudy · · Score: 1

      Another myth [uihealthcare.com]. And while it can cause problems with erection, that's only if you go numb down there.

      I'm pretty sure if you have trouble getting and maintaining an erection, it has a definite practical impact on your fertility.

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    484. Re:Bike to work by aliquis · · Score: 1

      Maybe his meal was smaller than yours anyway? I don't know, or maybe he just do lots of cardio and stuff.

      Or there may be a slight chance he actually DO have a very high metabolism / thyroid disease / ...

    485. Re:Bike to work by aliquis · · Score: 1

      Except they aren't comparable.

      If you burn 10.000 kcal / day or 2.000 kcal per day doesn't matter aslong as you consume 500 kcal less than your burned.

      You'll still lose a similar amount of weight.

      Your comment is useless.

    486. Re:Bike to work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Tell me about it. 1200-1280 calories a day, for almost 8 years, an hour walk every morning and 2 hours cyclic + circuit work 5 nights a week, and I have all the strength in the world underneath this flab. I also have fat rolls hanging off my arms and thighs, my stomach hangs down so much I haven't seen my own crotch in years unless I'm looking in the mirror, and I have two extra chins.
      380lbs is the lowest I've been since the 1990s.

      Some of us keep up a decent amount of muscle and a hell of a lot of fat on minimal energy intake.

      Bull.... At 380 lbs you will burn at least 3800 calories a day just laying on the couch (your at rest metabolism is 10 - 14 calories per pound of body mass per day). If you could restrict yourself to 1200 calories per day you'd end up somewhere around 120 lbs. It's fine if you want to fool yourself into thinking that your body violates the laws of physics, but don't spew this crap to someone who is interested in, and just might have the willpower, to improve their life.

      Exercise is a great way to get/stay in shape, but a poor way to loose weight. 223 calories an hour lifting weights? Thats one candy bar. Thats 15.7 hours of weight lifting just to loose one pound (3500 calories per pound). I know it sucks, but you just have to eat a lot less everyday if you want to loose weight. You have to exercise if you want to stay in shape.

    487. Re:Bike to work by Beardo+the+Bearded · · Score: 1

      From what I could see, s f, it looks like bikes make up about 1% of the traffic in the US.

      So, bikes make up 1% of the traffic yet have 2% of the deaths. That's very interesting.

      The source is here:
      http://www.bicyclinginfo.org/facts/crash-facts.cfm

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    488. Re:Bike to work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What, do you not understand expected value? Learn statistics before commenting on it, please.

    489. Re:Bike to work by porges · · Score: 1

      The equation "weight_change = calories_eaten - calories_burned" is obviously correct (it's basic physics)

      No, actually, it's not basic physics; it's a statement of biochemistry, and it's not at all simple. Basic physics tells you this: the mass you take in -- the food and drink -- minus the mass you excrete every day, equals your weight gain. The calories burned have roughly zero effect on your mass; unless you're a nuclear weapon, the amount of mass you're converting directly to energy is minuscule. (When you burn wood to get fire, the ash + smoke is near-identical in mass to the original wood.)

      I'm not saying the your equation is false, but there's a huge amount of uncertainty in the calories_burned value because of differing metabolisms, so it's not nearly as obvious and useful as people think.

    490. Re:Bike to work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I ride 25 km per day to/from work (that's around 15 miles as I recall) and it shows in the winter months when there's too much snow around here to cycle (that and they close the bike bridge to my place of work).

      I'm only an introvert (INTP baby!) when I'm not drunk, so I try to stay drunk. This probably explains why I maintain a sleek 175lbs :)

    491. Re:Bike to work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh ho! The "Mom's Basement" canard! I never saw that one coming. Your flamebaiting skills are weak, grasshopper. Too many words, not enough pure, unadulterated hatred. Come with me, and I will complete your training!

    492. Re:Bike to work by easyTree · · Score: 1

      Or.. more to the point, eating little and often (every three hours) will tell your body that it can always expect an energy boost in the immediate future, so there's no need for it to add to the fat stores. Of course a little fat is always nice as a backup. Think UPS for your body.

    493. Re:Bike to work by easyTree · · Score: 1

      If you stop losing weight, it means you'll have to cut more calories.

      ..or exercise more to burn calories. Losing weight is a bad goal. What you should be interested in is obtaining a lean body with good muscle tone; a good power-to-weight ratio. Can you do more than one pull-up? Try it, it's a real motivator to increase your power-to-weight ratio. If you can't lift your own body weight, you're screwed if you ever need to climb out of a pit of tigers with a taste for geek! ;)

    494. Re:Bike to work by nfk · · Score: 1

      "Then when you get to work, I change in the restroom into my work clothes"

      Ok, I can call you when I get to work, but how does your changing clothes help me?

    495. Re:Bike to work by AlejoHausner · · Score: 1
      I don't tend to gain weight, so feel free to call me a hypocrite for pontificating on diet theories. But I'm not a total ignoramus. I used to moderate a mailing list (remember those?) for people with reactive hypoglycemia who traded stories, ideas, and recipes. One idea kept coming up: blood sugar swings. Lots of people complained that, if they ate the usual low-fat, high-starch diet advocated by the powers-that-be, they would get horrible sugar crashes. In such crashes, they would get irritable, ravenous, and weak. They couldn't think straight, or see straight (the brain and eyes live mostly on glucose). Sound familiar?

      I realize this doesn't tie in very well with the set-point theory I've been talking about, but I think that blood sugar control is the key to staying thin. I know it's worked with my wife, who unlike me gains weight and used to have sugar crashes.

      So, how do you control your blood sugar? The one theory I've heard that makes sense to me is that some people tend to have an over-reactive pancreas (or something like that). Whenever they eat sugar or starch, their blood sugar goes up alot. Then there's an over-reaction, and a boatload of insulin gets secreted. The role of insulin is to turn blood glucose into fat. If there's too much insulin, all the blood glucose gets converted, and your blood sugar plunges. And you gain weight too. It's kind of like the feedback mechanism isn't balanced.

      To prevent this from happening, avoid sugars and starches. Each meats, fats and leafy vegetables. Kinda what the "paleolithic diet" folks advocate. They argue that, before the neolithic revolution introduced starches into our diet, we had adapted, over millions of years of evolution, into eating just such a diet.

      A.K.A. Low-carb.

      Gotta go! Dinner's ready (barbecue chicken and leafy salad) ;-)

    496. Re:Bike to work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Probably the same reasons people get angry or don't think while driving. Also, when you're on a bike you're more vulnerable to the idiocy of others so you may also be more sensitive to their mistakes.

      Nothing excuses anyone running red lights -- car, cyclist, or pedestrian.

      sidenote:
      People are much more worried about a car running a red because it is much more dangerous to others than a cyclist running a red. A car running a red could easily hit and kill people in cars, cyclists, or pedestrians. In contrast a cyclist running a red is a threat to other cyclists and pedestrians. Somehow I suspect the risk of killing people with a bicycle is much lower (less energy because MUCH less mass AND perhaps much less velocity: kinetic energy = 0.5*m*v*v).

      A motor vehicle weighs anywhere from 2000 to 8800 lbs. A fat person plus bicycle say 400 lbs. Converting to mass requires some multiplication but the ratio of masses stays the same. So at the same velocity a car still has between 5 and 22 times the energy of a bicycle.

      Again: no excuses. Only differences of risk.

    497. Re:Bike to work by letxa2000 · · Score: 1

      But how much energy you burn doesn't matter. The only thing which matters are how much you burn vs how much you eat. 1480-223 = 1257. If we had the same body and I'd go with weight lifting for a 500 deficiency and you wen't with cardio and ate 1257 kcals more than me per day my body would still look better in the end.

      No-one disputes that. You can lose weight by simply not eating. But given that we're comparing apples to apples and assuming that the person is going to eat and wants to do some exercise, assuming the same food consumption, you'll burn fat faster on a bike than lifting weights.

    498. Re:Bike to work by letxa2000 · · Score: 1

      Weight loss and body shaping is not, and will never be, just a simple math equation as above.

      Actually, weight loss IS a simple math equation. If calories consumed is less than calories burned, you lose weight. Period. That doesn't mean it's the most healthy approach or will result in the most attractive body. But weight loss and weight gain is nothing more than looking at calories consumed and burned.

    499. Re:Bike to work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      125kcal every 1/3 litre (one can). Dude, that is well bad. It takes 12m on a medium sized person running at 9 km/h to burn all that.

      Since it only takes ~5 seconds to run 12 meters at 9 km/h, would it be safe to assume you meant to say 12 minutes?

    500. Re:Bike to work by letxa2000 · · Score: 1

      If you can coax your body into maintaining those larger muscles by regularly lifting weights then you will burn several times the number of calories of a skinny person who bikes and swims a lot when you are just sitting at your desk during the workday.

      I call B.S. Can you provide any concrete data that supports that? Because the only thing I've been able to find is that a person that engages in strenuous weight lifting might, over time, be able to burn 8-14% more per day doing nothing. But several times (200-300%) more??? Absolute nonsense unless you have proof.

    501. Re:Bike to work by Zencyde · · Score: 1

      Biking is good; but, I also recommend jogging in the mornings in which you have free time. Build up some muscle tone by buying a weight set. For bulkier muscle mass, do heavier lifting and push yourself until failure. For leaner muscle mass, do lighter lifting and do a LOT of it. Personally, I alternate between the two. Isolate the muscles of your body and work them individually for the simplest benefit and find a routine that works for you. Switch out the routine every month or so (slight alterations). There are guides on Youtube for how to work specific muscle sets. To prevent overworking, alternate between opposite muscles. Work triceps one day and biceps the next, for instance.

      Remember, more muscle mass means more energy to sustain movement. This means that merely having the muscle will keep your weight low. Gaining the muscle will lower your weight as well. Not to mention the fact that the endorphins are addictive and you'll start wanting to work out regularly.

      Also, an alternative to low weight/high repetition is to do cardio.

      Remember to also break up exercises into sets. I usually do things in a halving pattern. This mostly applies to heavier weights. I do sets of 12, 6, and 3. I'm thinking of changing it to 16, 8, and 4. Each set has an increase in weight. This will vary from exercise to exercise. Find what works for you. Some people do 2 sets. Some do 4 or so. I've just found that 3 is a nice number.

      One more thing! Diet is VERY important. I'm sure you're aware of this. Though, three square meals a day isn't the best for you. You'll be better off breaking your meals up so that you get your nutrition throughout the day. Rather than 3 meals, try 1 meals and 7 snacking sessions. Again, find what works for you. Just make sure to watch what you eat and make sure that you get enough carbohydrates and drink plenty of water throughout the day. You might also want to consider dietary supplements. Protein powder is very helpful (I've been getting about 54 grams of protein but am thinking of halving it and eating more meat) and so are vitamins such as Centrum. It'll allow you to manipulate your diet in a more versatile manner so that you can focus on what's necessary for losing weight and staying healthy while still obtaining the nutrition your body needs.

      I hope my post helps. : )

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    502. Re:Bike to work by letxa2000 · · Score: 1

      Muscle mass burns calories all day long while aerobics only burns while you perform that particular exercise

      Yes, but not much more. Can you find any information that suggests that the increased MBR due to weight training exceeds 8-14% over that of someone that doesn't? Because I've looked and haven't been able to find anything.

      If not then, yes, you'll burn a few more calories than me while watching the TV. But I'll burn that, and more, when I go for my two hour bike ride.

      There's a reward in higher metabolism from weight-lifting. I can find NO credible information that supports the position that it increases metabolism enough to compensate for the fact that weight-training burns fewer calories than biking.

      I'm prepared to admit I'm wrong if anyone can cite evidence that proves it. But an 8% to 14% increase in MBR is not enough to make weight lifting a better calorie burner than biking.

    503. Re:Bike to work by flewp · · Score: 1

      You know what else is amazing? How everyone, on every road I've ever been on, has accepted that the speed limit is generally considered the normal pace. And my problem isn't so much with bicyclists going slower than the speed limit, it's with them going much slower than the accepted normal pace of the road. More specifically, going much slower in the middle of the road when they could, and possibly should be, to the side, allowing faster traffic to get through without causing sometimes dangerous congestion.

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    504. Re:Bike to work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I bike to work, I don't know if they care weather I'm sweaty, but the first thing I asked for at work was if there was a shower at the workplace. There was, so I shower at work and take on the extra clothes that I have in my bike bag. I'm less sweaty at work, than I would be if I drove a car or rode a bus there.

      If the workplace doesn't have a shower, check if there is another place close by that have a shower, like a gym.

    505. Re:Bike to work by DirtyAmish · · Score: 1

      The reader said: "can be performed in the privacy of the home"

    506. Re:Bike to work by DirtyAmish · · Score: 1

      1. Your weight doesn't mean all that much without your height. 2. In exercising outdoors, you need to keep in mind the toll that the increased inhalation of pollution (depending on where you live) takes away from the benefits of exercising outside.

    507. Re:Bike to work by PietjeJantje · · Score: 1

      Ah yes, the wise lessons from the people who have been genetically bypassed on the humor gen, take everything literally, and combine it with their head in their ass. Wonferful :) Get a sense of humor before commenting, please.

    508. Re:Bike to work by CodeBuster · · Score: 1

      Apparently I overstated the case a bit and while it depends upon who you ask when it comes to exactly how much more calories are burned by having more muscle tissue, one thing that they all agree on is that more muscle mass is better as part of a comprehensive weight loss or fitness program. So I stand by weight training as being a worthwhile part of any exercise program and well worth the effort. There is a decent article on about that talks about burning more fat with weight training as part of your program.

    509. Re:Bike to work by William+Baric · · Score: 1

      Actually, I think the root of the problem is "calories", from an energy point of view, are not what people find important. What they want to know, is the relationship between the food they eat and the activity they do. In that sense, even if oxygen consumption is the way to go to measure calories burnt, it is still not reliable for answering what people want to know since we don't know exactly the amount of energy one particular person will get from a particular piece of food.

      Anyway, I'd agree that heart rate is not reliable at all from an absolute point of view, but based on my experience it is still a good indicator if put within the context of other parameters (VO2 max, resting and maximum heart beat, weight...), which a good heart rate monitor will consider. Out of curiosity I once compared the food I was eating with what my heart rate monitor was telling I was using, and I'd say it was more or less on target. A good heart rate monitor is certainly more accurate than a simple table based on "activity" and "weight" alone (which severely overestimate calories used, at least for someone like me).

      As for a higher muscle mass burning calories 24/7, I mostly disagree (depending on what you mean, obviously) and I believe this is more a myth based on wishful thinking than anything else. Obviously, having to move more weight around will make you burn more calories all day long (it doesn't matter if the excess weight is due to fat, muscle or a backpack), but I don't believe the difference while sleeping or watching TV under normal condition (not extreme cold, for example, where muscle are used to increase body temperature) is significant. If you have hard data about that, I'm certainly interested.

    510. Re:Bike to work by xalorous · · Score: 1

      Ok, I'll rephrase it for you. Short of surgery or other invasive or dangerous practices, you cannot lose weight while your caloric intake is greater than calories burn + amount not absorbed (excreted as waste, or I guess purged by bulimics).

      The healthiest way to lose weight is to eat multiple small meals throughout the day, composed of healthy foods in balanced proportions, high in fruit and vegeteables, all while increasing exercise.

      Find a doctor or nutritionist who says differently.

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    511. Re:Bike to work by Roger+W+Moore · · Score: 1

      Have you ever actually *been* to Northern Alberta?

      I don't know. Does living there count? :-)

    512. Re:Bike to work by Adoxographer · · Score: 1

      Um, yeah.

      But really, apart from the nitpicking bits, and the bit I already retracted, most of that seems to depend on how much you're willing to restrict your diet.

      I'm biased in that when I wanted to lose a few stone I wasn't willing to eat less, so I ate differently and exercised.

      Actually I'm pretty sure I ate more, though perhaps skewed towards proteins, which are less efficient to metabolise for energy.

      Seemed to work for me, so you're probably right about the muscle building thing. The pilates actually seemed to build more muscle than the weights at first (judging by how hot and sore my trunk felt the next day).

      By "oxygenating your tissue et cetera" I meant anything that isn't directly related to moving, like respiration and so on. Or did you mean what does et cetera mean?

    513. Re:Bike to work by xalorous · · Score: 1

      3. Don't run two days in a row.

      Where did you get that idea? Care to elaborate a bit about the downfalls of running for two days in a row? I run every day except Monday, I've been doing it for 5 years now, and I am fine.

      Got that idea from my knees and shins. They both protest if not given time to recover. Your body is accustomed to the punishment of 10 miles a day. For someone who is just starting to get into shape, running every day is a bad idea. Running is hard on the knees.

      As for running 40 miles a week and your oxygen depletion point, you're a MARATHONER. Point being that you've trained your body to withstand a high level of exertion for an extended period of time. Every health expert I saw told me 15 minutes is a rough average for how long most people need to exercise before they begin the anaerobic phase (or is it aerobic). Your body gets warmed up, loose, and the heart settles into a steady level, and after 15 minutes, you begin to see the benefit of exercise because the available oxygen (?) in the bloodstream is used up so the body starts burning fuel (available sugar and fat).

      My point was that the health experts will tell you to ease into it. If I started today and ran 10 miles (and survived) and then repeated the process every day for a week, I would have shin splints, stress fractures, bloody blisters, my knees would be swollen like basketballs, and I would suffer from plantar fascitis.

      Your age, activity level, and current physical condition all factor into what it takes to get into shape.

      Back to the original issue: following all the other rules and suggestions, pick activities that are fun, not onerous, because you want to make them part of your lifestyle, and fun activities are easier, because you're more likely to keep with them and less likely to find excuses to skip days and eventually quit.

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    514. Re:Bike to work by aliquis · · Score: 1

      Of course.

      Though if he wants to lose the same amount of weight he or she will keep more muscle and look better if he had lifted weight instead of doing cardio.

      And I guess it differs if one prefer to still keep eating much but move around more or if one is lazy not move around a lot but eat less.

    515. Re:Bike to work by aliquis · · Score: 1

      At least one use to feel more full of protein dense food, and it was a good idea to eat more protein while losing weight since that will save muscle (or increase chances of building some if one is a beginner.)

      My pilates comment was unnecessary, and I won't argue that it's not good for abdominal and lower back work. It is, probably not that good for legs, arms, other parts of back, and so on though. Some mobility work though (and quite "heavy" in the cardio way to.)

      I mostly didn't understood what the oxygenating part was supposed to increase. But sure intense weight training will increase cardio/respiration to some extend to. High intensity interval training are probably better for that though. So like 15 times of 60 meters sprints or something like that, or jog for 30 seconds and walk for a short time and run jog and so on.

      I'd go with sprints since they put more weight on your legs and the movement pattern is a little different so they will probably build your hamstrings and ass better. But then I care more about strength / mass than cardio.

    516. Re:Bike to work by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      Their flesh isn't blue surely to God? I admit I've only seen dead tuna in fishmongers and in cans, but it certainly doesn't look blue to me.

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    517. Re:Bike to work by tehcyder · · Score: 1
      You're right, those aren't American terms. It's just that I've never come across "blue fish" before in the UK that's all, so I asusmed the OP was American (i.e. a native English speaker but not from the UK, so most likely from the US).

      Apologies.

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    518. Re:Bike to work by Ceyarrecks · · Score: 1

      "Weight training will build muscle but doesn't burn a lot of calories." actually, yes it does burn calories. I weight-lift at least every other day. and (for example) moving 800 pounds 10x takes a lot more energy/effort than moving 10 pounds 50x. also, with the additional muscle mass the body develops, the resting caloric burn is higher than with less muscle. (well documented) while light weights develop endurance (at that weight) and tone, one *NEEDS* muscle to burn fat/calories. (there are countless other benefits) ALSO. one must avoid foods with FRUCTOSE in them. Fructose is metabolized in only ONE organ, the liver, which is then immediately converted to fat. Glucose, however, can be used by EVERY cell in your body. in addition to the limiting of starches/sugars in the food I eat, and augmenting the protein I consume (beef, seafood, legumes"nuts") I also strive to limit the "amount" of food consumed per meal. One doe snot have to eat, and eat, and eat, until they feel full. by then it is too late, too many calories have just been consumed. couple with that a sedentary(sitting around) lifestyle equals too many calories not burned, and stored as fat. My usual works consist (during ideal schedule): Monday - mid-section (high-reps) and 30 min. cardio on stepper. Tuesday - Upper Body/chest weights (w/ partner.) Wednesday - either break or Arms. Thursday - Upper Body/chest weights (w/ partner.) Friday - break. Saturday - Legs. Sunday - mid-section (high-reps) and 30 min. cardio on stepper. Hope this helps.

    519. Re:Bike to work by DuckDodgers · · Score: 1

      I think you're absolutely right, actually.

      But when I tried to make the transition to low carb, I lasted two months before the inability to eat a regular sandwich or bowl of cereal drove me crazy and I stopped. Atkins (chicken, beef, eggs, and 3+ cups of green vegetables per day) was the first eating plan I ever tried that let me cut some fat without feeling hungy. However, instead of being hungry all of the time I was bored silly by my food choices.

    520. Re:Bike to work by fridlum · · Score: 1

      Over the years I've been a developer I put on several stone and became obese at one point. The biggest problem I had was knowing how much energy I was taking in and how much I was using up. So I started developing my own web app to keep track of things and lost two stone using this method. The site is still in development and really only suitable for users in the UK at the moment but it's free to register. Feel free to use it if you want to (shameless plug follows...) http://www.futureself.co.uk/. Use the support link to email me if you find it useful or if you think it's crap.

    521. Re:Bike to work by DuckDodgers · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Obviously the logic is true. Burning 500 more calories per day than you consume causes fat loss.

      But if the calorie deficit causes your appetite to increase and your energy level and possibly your mood to decrease day after day you eventually reach the point where you overeat, stop exercising, or both. Hence the tendency of most people to yo-yo in their diets.

      The difficult part is finding a combination of foods and appropriate exercises that maintain the calorie deficit without having your appetite, mood, or energy level spiral out of control. Millions of people succeed at it. Millions more don't. Sometimes the difference is raw willpower, and my hat is off to people whose will is stronger than mine. Sometimes it's knowing how to properly structure your diet and exercise, and my hat is also off to people who have done better research or gone through trial and error to figure out what works.

      Again, your basic statement is true but not helpful. The specifics are more helpful. I had a far easier time maintaining a healthy weight when I was in college and had the opportunity to walk everywhere I needed to go and exercise an hour or more per day. Now I have a job, a long commute, and a family, extremely convenient opportunity for hours of exercise per day is gone.

    522. Re:Bike to work by aliquis · · Score: 1

      You are right on a few things, but they only apply on maintaining shape. Not *losing* * fat*.

      Things like that and "Because he's trying to burn fat" don't say much, if anything say WHY it wouldn't be good.

      * Burning it
      If you workout and your glycogen reserves are low, your body will start burning fat instead, and eventually it will start feeding on muscle (this is why body builders do very little if any cardio) after the readier fat sources are gone (even if you've got plenty of lard rolls). This WILL feel weird during the first weeks, but eventually your body gets used to it and uses your fat more efficiently.

      I guess cardio will deplete glycogen reserves more than weight lifting. The reason many "body builders" don't do cardio is probably because:
      1) They don't need to have awesome cardio.
      2) Intense workouts gives some cardiovascular work.
      3) You don't need to do cardio to lose fat.

      You are correct that the body may start breaking down muscle protein, however it prioritize to break down fat first and will only start to break down muscle if it's needed to preserve even more vital things such as organs and the brain, and doing weight lifting and keep protein intake high limits this risk even more.

      It's speculated that the body may only be able to use around 70 kcal / kg body fat per day (will vary in individuals of course) and if you are on a energy deficiency higher than the amount of fat the body can take from it's storages it will have to use something else. One way would be to create glucose from some aminoacids, if those aren't available from food they will obviously be taken from muscle protein instead, if you go on a low carbohydrate diet for a longer time your body will go into ketosis instead and start to make ketobodies from fats and feed your brain with that instead, I don't remember if those needed some glucose component to form as well or if it was some other molecule made from aminoacids the body needed to make them. In any case you will still be breaking down some protein to form them if I remember correctly. (There is probably plenty of information if you google for ketosis protein breakdown or something like that.)

      In any case at a low energy deficiency with enough protein and protein synthese stimuli you're not likely to burn any muscle, but it can happen.

      * Avoid storing new fat deposits
      You do this by lowering or nulling your sat fat intake and by eating very small portions of between your main meals. Your body won't think it's starving so it has no reason to store any fat, and obviously if you're not eating any dodgy fats they cannot accumulate on you either.

      Fats are stored all the time, but it's also burned all the time.
      I've said it before and I'll say it again: More fat are GOOD for your body composition.
      If you google for it you can probably find lots of references for that, here's the two latest study results posted on a forum I'm a member on:
      http://www.optimalbody.se/forum/showpost.php?p=55510&postcount=1
      http://www.optimalbody.se/forum/showpost.php?p=55433&postcount=1

      It's not as simple as "omg only fat makes me fat", the goal is obviously to burn as much fat as possible compared to how much you consume. If consuming more fat makes you burn even more it may still be better, not worse.

      How often you eat doesn't matter much either, see:
      http://avidityfitness.net/2008/01/12/interview-martin-berkhan/
      http://www.elitefts.com/documents/intermittent_fasting.htm

      For instance. Eating often and not eating as much fats may be common sense logic but it fails to deliver any proof that it's actually BET

    523. Re:Bike to work by geminidomino · · Score: 1

      Alligators, not crocodiles. :)

    524. Re:Bike to work by plague3106 · · Score: 1

      Not always practical. A few retards here in Vt try to bike in the dead of winter. It's dangerous enough for bikes on roads in the summer, in the winter.. well I saw someone come very close to being killed because neither bike nor car can really stick to a road coated with 2" of ice.

      I wouldn't recommend working out at home anyway. Paying a gym can be a good motivator to actually make sure you go. Also, being surrounded by others also trying to get fit or stay fit is a motivator. As a geek, hopefully you can afford a trainer once in a while too. They are great, especially if you find one that works well with you.

      Go to the bookstore or online and find a DietMinder book, and use it properly. Combine that with 30 minutes of good cardio (a heart monitor is a must) and weight training and you'll drop pounds. I lost 70 lbs in about 10 months. I enjoy it so much now, I've become a gym rat outside of work and starting to work on packing on muscle.

      I've never felt better, and exercise can at least take the stress away, if not turn things around completely.

    525. Re:Bike to work by plague3106 · · Score: 1

      Not necessarly. While you may burn more calories doing cardio, you burn more calories from FAT doing weight training. Thirty minues of cardio after at least 30 minutes of moderate weight training is the way to go. Also, as you weight train you build more muscle, which helps you burn more calories.

      If you're looking to lose weight, you need 30 minutes of cardio after at least 20 to 30 minutes of weight training. And tracking your diet with something like DietMinder will help immensely as well... you won't be able to lie to yourself. When my wife and I lost weight, that's how we did it. She's now training to be in a body building show.. and we only started less than two years ago.

    526. Re:Bike to work by aliquis · · Score: 1

      Biggest reason for the yoyoeffect is probably people looking for a quick fix, and therefor losing weight so fast they also lose muscle and on the scale a huge part of the supposed "fat" they have lost will be water weight. So then they are happy they start eating again but now they will regain the water weight, have less muscle and therefor lower metabolism, and the metabolism at large may have went down for their previous "starvation" mode.. And back goes the weight, and eventually some more.

      Of course you'll have a problem in your current position if you want to be able to eat and live as you did when you moved around a bit more.

      Some people manages to squeeze in time for the gym even on a tight schedule, me myself I'm quite lazy so maybe I'd say "I have no time" and skip it.

      Anyway, on a tight schedule what I'd do and suggest you to do is to get a bar, a squat rack and a bench if you live in a house or have some place where you can fit it. If you live in a tempered area but don't have place for a "home gym" you could get kettlebells and work out outside, or you search youtube for things like "ghetto workout" and find people doing bench presses with tables, pullups in playgrounds, people throwing stones or sand bags, pushing cars or whatever. Get a pulley and take it for a walk, do tire flips, or something such.

      Personally I liked the sandbag exercises from:
      http://www.t-nation.com/article/most_recent/third_world_workouts

      Specifics:
      * Consume less energy than you burn.
      * Eat plenty of protein, shoot for 2 gram / kg bodyweight or maybe even more.
      * Eat fish oil.
      * More fats seem to be better for weight loss, so eat enough carbohydrates to have energy to train but preferably eat more fat .
      * Eat clean food for your nutrition, that means fat isn't cream or other milk products or oils, it's things like nuts and avocado or fat fish. Choose vegetables over fruit, fruit over grains, full grains over white flour, white flour over refined sugars. More fibre vs juice/softdrinks to get some stomach fill.
      * Do weight lifting to limit muscle loss. (And do heavy compound exercises, not isolated arm work in machines and such crap.)
      * Let it take time to minimise muscle loss and risk of weight gain when you goes of from the diet.
      * Feel free to use stimulants, for instance caffeine, yohimbine, tyrosine or ephedrine if you live in a country where it's available to lower cravings and raise metabolism.
      * Do cardio if it makes you feel better / you want to be able to eat more / not limit your food intake as much.

    527. Re:Bike to work by wolfperson1 · · Score: 1

      Have you considered that your weight might be medical? If you're truly eating and exercising as you say, then it's indeed possible that you have a thyroid condition. I'm not doctor, but I'd look into talking to one. It seems like you should be losing weight. You might want to try keeping track of everything you eat for a week or two (still eating normally, of course). If you're eating what you think you are, bring the week or two of records to the doctor (plus info about your exercise program). If it's a thyroid issue, they can fix it and you'll drop the weight.

    528. Re:Bike to work by Abcd1234 · · Score: 1

      Not if you believe that breaking a sweat isn't a problem while cycling there. ;)

    529. Re:Bike to work by The+Dancing+Panda · · Score: 1

      weight of me right now + weight of food = weight of me after digestion. There's no way I could ever gain *more* weight than the things that I put into my body. I count the water I drink as a food, in this case.

    530. Re:Bike to work by Alinabi · · Score: 1

      I did not say that you should jump straight into a 40 mi week or a 10 mi run, of course you have to build up gradually. But 24h is enough for your body to recover from all but the most demanding workouts, with the help of some ice packs. Training is about getting your body used to ever increasing loads, and your body does not adapt unless you keep it pretty much under constant stress, just short of the breaking point. You can start by running 1 mile a day for 6 days in a row, if that is the most your body can handle, but it has to be a daily routine.

      What I was saying was that you will not see a significant weight loss until you reach a fairly high weekly mileage and are able to do a long enough run every week, that would have you running after the GLYCOGEN in your muscles is depleted. At that point you are forcing your body to use the metabolic pathways that produce energy by burning fatty acids, instead of sugars.

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    531. Re:Bike to work by DuckDodgers · · Score: 1

      When I speak of yo-yo weight gain and fat loss, I'm not necessarily speaking of rapid changes. You can certainly crash diet, lose a ton of weight rapidly, and then start bingeing and regain it just as quickly. But both my wife and myself have lost 15 pounds or more at a rate of one pound per week or so. You plan for a permanent lifestyle change in eating habits and adjust your eating appropriately. However, after a few months the cumulative calorie deficit starts to catch up with you, and eventually you usually revert to you old habits. Then the weight you lost comes back on at the same pound or so per week, and a year later you're back where you started.

      Both of us have experienced this exact cycle more than once over the past decade.

      I enjoy strength resistance training and had been doing a home workout with weights consistently for years, but I hurt my back doing dumbbell deadlifts (with a relatively modest 150 pounds total) in mid June, and have decided to give weighted leg exercises a long break since I still have periodic pain from the injury. Instead, I've been doing calisthenics. I prefer the weights, but since (knock on wood) the calisthenics don't make my joints ache, that's the way I'm going.

    532. Re:Bike to work by letxa2000 · · Score: 1

      ... one thing that they all agree on is that more muscle mass is better as part of a comprehensive weight loss or fitness program.

      I agree.

      So I stand by weight training as being a worthwhile part of any exercise program and well worth the effort.

      And I never said otherwise.

      I was simply replying to the original question posted in the summary: "Do any Slashdotters have a regular workout routine that can be performed in the privacy of the home to stave off those pounds?" If the concern is "staving off those pads," cardio like biking and running is the most effective. That is not to say it's a well-rounded workout but it IS the most effective at staving off those pounds.

      The poster said he was already doing some resistance training so obviously he was aware of the benefits of doing so and, if anything, he might simply want to increase his mix of resistance exercises. But, again, it seems his frustration was in the "extra pounds" more than anything... and the answer is biking or running. :)

      Anywy, to sum it up--I've never said weight training isn't a good thing. It absolutely is. I just addressed the fact that it isn't the most effective exercise if the primary concern is burning fat.

    533. Re:Bike to work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have purchased a weight set and I have a healthy food plan to keep me in shape. I weigh in about 220lb and lift just over that. The more muscle that you have on you the higher your metabolism. And being an introvert is an excuse..... Tre

    534. Re:Bike to work by AlejoHausner · · Score: 1
      Re. how to stay on low carb: it's hard. Just going to the supermarket is a trial. You basically have to walk around the perimeter of the store, avoiding all the central aisles, where the bread, paste (aka pasta), processed foods, sugary drinks, etc are there to tempt you.

      A couple of things have helped us stay on low carb:

      • find interesting recipes: if you're gonna go low carb, you'll have to learn how to cook. As a bachelor, I found easy to cook roast chicken legs or grilled burgers or fried eggs, with steamed frozen broccoli. But if that's all you eat, you're gonna get mighty bored. There's a real dearth of low carb convenience foods: all the frozen stuff and packaged stuff is sugary and starchy (at times I suspect a conspiracy).
      • be nice to yourself. Once a week, have a "carb feast", and eat some cake, or donuts, have a beer, etc. You are part mind, part body, and you can't be too mean to your body. It's going to want satisfaction at some point. I was at a lecture where Marion Woodman (a psychoanalyst) described the typical dieter's dilemma: you're standing in front of the fridge at 11pm, and something very powerful and neglected within you says, with irresistible force "Ok, now it's MY turn."
    535. Re:Bike to work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I want to start doing (this), but I work in an office where they'd care if I came to work frozen solid six months out of the year. What's the solution to this?

    536. Re:Bike to work by cparker15 · · Score: 1

      I see. I'm supposed to be able to look around corners for rogue cyclists and dance around them when they don't show courtesy for people around them, ESPECIALLY when they come out of nowhere going 20 mph. Well, my apologies, then. Everyone knows all cyclists have lights and bells and it's impossible to not see them. They're just as big as cars, right? (Nobody said anything about (not) looking both ways.)

      Not going the wrong way down a one-way isn't hard. Anyone who thinks otherwise shouldn't be operating a vehicle.

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    537. Re:Bike to work by mokumegane · · Score: 1

      Yeah, why do you think bodybuilders eat a ton of carbs before working out? They do this so they bulk out instead of the exercises thinning them out due to the amount of carbs they burn during this time. Both Aerobic and Anaerobic exercises can burn a lot of calories. Professionals and even amateurs will do both aerobic and anaerobic exercises to get in shape. The main things dividing the two exercises are the intensity levels and aerobic means you consume more oxygen, making you breathe heavier, while anaerobic exercises don't consume more oxygen like the aerobic exercises do. Likewise, Anaerobic exercises typically build more power and bulk, while Aerobic will benefit your body in many ways by strengthening parts of your body you wouldn't think about while exercising. These ways include: strengthening muscles that are involved in respiration, strengthening and enlarging the heart muscle (to make it more healthy), toning muscles, improving circulation and reducing blood pressure, increasing the total amount of red blood cells in your body (which allows more oxygen to move about) and improved mental health. These are many well known facts but there are also unknown benefits (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aerobic_exercise ). (The known benefits are also found on that page.) I personally would do an aerobic exercise one day and an anaerobic one another day and also switch using different parts of my body, so that nothing gets overworked or underworked. For Aerobic, you can break out the old Sweating to the Oldies tape you have hiding in the house, jog in place, ride your bicycle everywhere you can... especially for everyday things. Anaerobic exercise examples would be: push-ups, weight lifting and there's several resistance training exercises you could do at home. One is ye olde medicine ball. There's A LOT you can do with that...

    538. Re:Bike to work by easyTree · · Score: 1

      It's quick (15 minutes plus pre and post-stretching) and very good for you

      Hmmn. When I took the induction at the gym I used to attend (about two years ago now), they said that people are no longer advised to stretch before exercise because cold muscles can be far more easily damaged by overstretching. They say just stretch afterwards..

      Anyone else been given this advice?

    539. Re:Bike to work by n7ytd · · Score: 1

      Unfortunately, the calculations on cardio equipment are usually off by about a factor of 2x, meaning that they're giving a figure which is typically about double the number of calories actually being burned.

      Disclaimer: I design treadmill electronics and firmware.

      I don't know about 2x off, but you are correct that ANY calorie calculations should be considered suspicious. The number of calories being burned by a person exercising is subject to many variables. Some of them, like incline, speed, and time can be measured by the equipment, but there are so many more that are not known to the machine, such as a person's gait, muscle tone, posture, etc.

      The best use of the calorie number given by your treadmill or pedometer or whatnot is to assume that the approximation it is displaying is consistent, and so it can be useful to compare your amount of effort from one workout to the next.

    540. Re:Bike to work by easyTree · · Score: 1

      Oops, I've evolved to the next level. Not only do I not RTFA, I don't RTFcomments (fully).
      You continued by saying..

      I personally do 5 minute warmup followed by a couple minute stretch..... /blockquote
      Which makes my point redundant.. :S

    541. Re:Bike to work by n7ytd · · Score: 1

      i was having weight gain problems when i was eating breakfast cereal daily

      An interesting experiment next time you sit down to the breakfast table: look at the "serving size" listed on your cereal (many cereals say that a serving is 1/2 cup). Measure that amount into your bowl, and add the 1/2 cup of milk that the label shows as adding to the calorie total for the serving. Is this more or less than the amount of this cereal you usually eat for the meal?

    542. Re:Bike to work by Corrado · · Score: 1

      I find jumping to conclusions works for me!

      Yea, I have a mat that I use. It's great!

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    543. Re:Bike to work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Get a job at TSA. You won't care anymore.

    544. Re:Bike to work by haggis4you · · Score: 1

      "Got that idea from my knees and shins. They both protest if not given time to recover" That comes from sitting at your computer all day typing in comments to slashdot, get out and do some work! ;-)

    545. Re:Bike to work by GWBasic · · Score: 1

      But - at least in the UK and most other English-speaking countries - cyclists use the road by right while motorists use it by license. The point about a license is you don't have a right - that it can be taken away from you.

      In the US, bikes are considered vehicles and have to follow traffic law. This means obeying stop signs, traffic lights, keeping to the right side of the road unless passing a slower-moving vehicle, staying in designated bike lanes when present, signaling turns via hand signals, and following bike specific instructions on signs. The traffic police can enforce these laws, and will do so when bikes become a hazard to vehicles that obey traffic laws.

      In the US, only pedestrians have "rights" to a road. The only "right" that a cyclist has in the US is to dismount the bike and carry it like an inanimate object.

      In the case of the post you were replying to, a bike blocking traffic by going slow is usually violating US traffic laws, unless (s)he is cycling on a narrow and curvy road where it is unsafe to pass. A traffic officer would be within his/her duty to give the cyclist a ticket.

    546. Re:Bike to work by strange_boy · · Score: 1

      Crossfit is the bomb. As a precursor, you might also try the Starting Strength program, from the 2nd edition book of the same name by Mark Rippetoe. That did things to my body composition that I wouldn't have believed possible otherwise.

    547. Re:Bike to work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      does work if you can get a train to the office - I use to do that.

    548. Re:Bike to work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      if you are being honest about the above then you have a serious metabolic problem! get to the doctor!!

    549. Re:Bike to work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because when you get cut up on a bike you nearly die - tends to get the adrenaline running more than when it happends in a steel cage. Usually at that point with me the red mist comes down and I black out - I never do remeber how I get to work after that, and why I appear to have red sticky stuff all over the end of my bike lock.

    550. Re:Bike to work by xalorous · · Score: 1

      I was in the military. (U.S. Army to be precise). The Army trains their soldiers to be physically fit. I saw significant weight loss, even with increased intake (increased is correct), because I raised my overall activity level significantly. And I was an old guy at 30. 66" and around 200lb. Got down to 180 and most of it muscle. From couch potato to outdoors 4-8 hours a day. Even with the overall general increase in physical fitness, years of being unfit had rendered my legs weak. Shin splints and 'overuse' problems in the knees and plantar fascitis were three problems I experienced, and they came from increasing running beyond every other day. My point is that you should alternate activities. Don't run 10 miles a day, 7 days a week. Even for marathoners this is not healthy. Swim, bike, cross country skiing, circuit training, walking, climbing stairs. There are many high aerobic impact exercises that can be woven together to increase fitness without destroying your legs.

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    551. Re:Bike to work by xalorous · · Score: 1

      As you age, your body's ability to repair degrades. It takes more time. I'm over 30, and I can tell you for a fact, even if I was still running my old 3 miles, 3 times a week with weight training on the off days, if I tried to run 3 miles 4 days in a row, on the fourth day my knees would be threatening collapse.

      Your body needs time to heal. That time varies. For me that means a day off between running days. Actually, I'm just getting back into it. I may need to limit myself to running 2 days a week and doing some other aerobic exercise in the middle (swim, bike, rowing, cross-country skiing or eliptical machine, stairs, stairclimber, etc.)

      But you miss the overall point. Stretching every day. Aerobic exercise every day. Strength training at least 2 or 3 times a week. Increasinging the overall activity level and the amount of muscle you carry may actually result in eating more. Be sensible when eating and the pounds will rearrange themselves into toned muscles. And watch for plateaus as well. As you exercise, you will gain muscle mass while burning fat mass. Go by what the mirror and your belt tell you. Stay away from scales.

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    552. Re:Bike to work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The comment about weightlifting vs cycling makes me wonder about how HealthDiscovery measured the calorie consumption rates.

      I know from my own experience that I can ride my lightweight racing bike at 15mph(24kph) for an hour without breaking a sweat and it feels like nothing, where as I challenge anyone to perform heavy squats and deadlifts for an hour straight. I know from personal experience that most people would be wiped out after 30 minutes of that, never mind an hour.

      I'd have to be riding up steep hills and going much faster on flat roads to come anywhere close to the effort involved in weightlifting.

      Most people don't really push very hard when using weights from what I've seen at gyms. If you truly workout intensely with weights and keep moving from exercise to exercise, there's nothing that can match it for giving your results.

      Just try one set to failure of deadlifts and you'll see that you'll be breathing hard and sweating like hell afterwards. You'll also be burning calories long after your workout is done.

    553. Re:Bike to work by droptone · · Score: 1

      Introversion isn't shyness, although they are correlated. Introverts avoid social situations due to their preferences whereas shy people avoid them mostly due to fear and/or anxiety. If you care, Paulhus, Delroy L. and Trapnell, Paul D. 1998. Typological Measures of Shyness: Additive, Interactive, and Categorical. Journal of Research in Personality, 32, 182-201 claim that shyness can be viewed as introversion plus neuroticism; they also have a good lit review for those who aren't too familiar with personality psychology.

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    554. Re:Bike to work by Alinabi · · Score: 1

      I'm 35.

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    555. Re:Bike to work by ILongForDarkness · · Score: 1
      Your right, I was a active mountain biker for a couple years in high school. Since then my legs have been very large even when I was down in the 80kg range. Now the rest of my frame matches :)

      Good luck with the recovery. A friend of mine threw his ankle out (inflamed the tendon which irritated the nerves) he still isn't a 100% a year later. It is amazing how little bits can cause so much problem, I can't imagine something the size of a hamstring.

    556. Re:Bike to work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That was supposed to be a JOKE???

    557. Re:Bike to work by Grizzlysmit · · Score: 1

      I walk lots Dr's Orders :(

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    558. Re:Bike to work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And everyone else smells funny...

    559. Re:Bike to work by xalorous · · Score: 1

      Ok, and how many years have you been running? I'm happy for you that you are taking care of your health. Some of us have to start from scratch.

      From the perspective of someone who is considering starting an exercise routine for the first time, or the first time in a long time, having someone stand up and say, "I run 10 miles a day and you should too", well, lets just say it's not helpful. If someone over 30 who has never exercised regularly followed your advice, they'd be going to the doctor with painfully swollen knees, at best, and at worst they'd have stress fractures or a blown knee or worse.

      For those like me, start slowly, work your way into good shape. Once you're in decent shape you can extend it to doing marathons like previous poster, or bodybuilding or powerlifting or biking or volleyball or whatever. Ease into it and get professional advice.

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    560. Re:Bike to work by Alinabi · · Score: 1

      "I run 10 miles a day and you should too"

      I never said that. What I said was that I run 6 days a week and you should too. I stand by that.

      how many years have you been running?

      5 years. I started at 30. When I started, I was 30 lb. overweight and I could not run for more than 3 minutes without vomiting. I started by running 2 min and walking 2 min an repeating until I totaled 30 min of running. I did that 6 days a week. Every week I reduced the walking to running ratio, until I was running for 30 min straight. Going from there to the marathon was significantly easier. Did I get an occasional swolen ankle? Sure. But I iced it and kept going.

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  2. Leave the car at home by Shados · · Score: 4, Informative

    Pretty much what the title says. Leave the car at home if you can. If you take public transportation, walking to the bus stop (rushing so you don't miss it =P), running down the stairs of the subway station (not using those fancy high tech automated ones! /cough), and so on, the pounds go away quite fast.

    That is if you live somewhere where its possible. I've melted a lot doing that.

    1. Re:Leave the car at home by nimbius · · Score: 3, Informative

      i tool a pretty proactive approach as i headed toward 200lbs of IT Flab. when my apartment lease was up, i moved downtown and limited myself to 1 tank of gas a month. i bike 2 miles to work every day. i dont take the elevator at work so i hike up 6 flights of stairs twice a day. "wanna get lunch?" has been a killer for me, as the office lunch is nothing but fat, but ive found sticking to something like salads at fast food chains or something light generally works. turn your office into exercise.

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    2. Re:Leave the car at home by Provoostenator · · Score: 1

      And if the weather is nice and you are ahead of schedule, just get out of the bus a couple of stops earlier. Even train stations in some places aren't as far in between as they feel like (but some are...).

    3. Re:Leave the car at home by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So true. I live and work in Urbania and walking is a big piece of my daily life. Unless the weather really sucks, I walk >= 30 min/day doing errands, going to my job, etc. If lived in the burbs I'd do the same thing: drive most of the way and walk or bike the rest. I've been doing this for years, eat more or less what I want, and my weight is steady. I was never into sports but getting outdoor exercise is pure joy for me.

    4. Re:Leave the car at home by ModernGeek · · Score: 1

      He wanted to lose weight though, not melt in the rain walking to bus stops and such.

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    5. Re:Leave the car at home by gnarvaez · · Score: 1

      Biking is great, but not always possible (not only because of distance). A few years ago when I was still working in high tech, I had a job that was some 45 miles from home. The drive on 880 (if you know the Bay Area, you will know immediately what I mean) was horrendous. So when I found that I could take the train and bike 14 miles a day, I hoped on the bike... the problem was that my manager started dropping hints like "you know, you should drive because it looks more professional," or "biking to work is really affecting your performance review." As soon as he started getting that attitude I started looking for another job that paid about 40% more and did not have to put up with the crap. Wonder how he is doing? He drove a sports car that sucked gas like crazy (midlife crisis?) and now I am completing a phd at a UC where my commute is either 12 minutes on foot, or 5 min on bike.
      Changing one's habits is not only an internal struggle, but one that is enmeshed with very complicated networks of power relationships. Obesity is not only the failings of the individual, but more so the society the individual lives in. Somethings like free soda at work might seem like a nice perk, but with what we know today, companies should restrict it if they care to have healthier workers. In its place, workplaces should provide things like coffee (good quality, not the typical swill), tea and other non- or light-caloric alternatives.
      To gain a pound of weight, one needs to consume about 3300 calories. An 8 oz. can of Coke (I am sure their bulldogs will be all over this) has some 45g of sugars or something like 180 calories. While that might not seem like a lot, the problem is that sweet foods and drinks stimulate overeating. On average someone who consumes 4 cans of soda (or one large fountain soda from the QuickyMart... something like 32 oz.) will eat an additional 600 to 900 calories a day, which adds up to an additional 1400 to 1700 calories per day (half if you drink sugar-free, but the stimuli to eat more still there, so you tend to overeat regardless the amount of calories in the soda).
      So not only is the exercise important, but what you eat. Unfortunately, we geeks tend to eat easily available highly processed foods that are making us gain weight like crazy. If you want an impartial source of data, Just look at office furniture catalogs from the last four decades (say Herman-Miller and Steelcase, two respected US corporations). There you will find a steady increase in the widths and depths of chairs to accommodate those of us who have consumed a bit too many sodas and similar "foods."

    6. Re:Leave the car at home by NormalVisual · · Score: 1

      An 8 oz. can of Coke (I am sure their bulldogs will be all over this) has some 45g of sugars or something like 180 calories.

      I think you meant a 12 oz can (355 ml), which would be 140 calories and 39g of sugar. Obviously this would be a bit less for the 330 ml cans that are common outside the US.

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    7. Re:Leave the car at home by knarf · · Score: 1

      As to the food thing the solution is simple: bring your own. Just stuff some sandwiches in your pack/case/whatever and eat those instead of the swill those fast fodder companies sell. You can eat what you want, when and where you want it. Drink tea instead of sugar-water-in-a-can. It is cheaper too...

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    8. Re:Leave the car at home by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Add to that: get off the bus a few stops earlier and walk the rest of the way. (Tends to be easier to do on the way home, rather than on the way to work, when you don't have time constraints.)

    9. Re:Leave the car at home by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is what I do, and I will shed a few pounds a week when I'm feeling fat.

      Either take a fast-moving walk outside for 30 minutes, or hit a stepper if I can't go outside. If you don't have a stepper, jog in place, but that's not ideal. Or at least use the Wii :)

      I also do 2 sets of as-many-as-I-can-do of curls with 20 pounds, push ups, and this ab roller thing I have. The ab roller could be substituted with GOOD crunches. I've heard a lot of people say that there are good an bad (useless) crunches.

      I usually eat exactly the same thing, but If I cut out the ice cream, I lose wait faster. I know people say it, but you really do feel amazing when you're in good shape. It also feels good to know you'll live longer, with a better chance of not getting sick or hurt!

    10. Re:Leave the car at home by xaxa · · Score: 1

      If you take public transportation, walking to the bus stop (rushing so you don't miss it =P), running down the stairs of the subway station (not using those fancy high tech automated ones! /cough)

      I like running up the subway escalators (moving stairs) as fast as I can :-). I only do it if there's one empty (so, not in rush-several-hours), but once I've started sprinting up the stairs then there's no way I can stop -- with everyone looking at me as they go down it would be far to embarrassing. The big steps make it hard work, too.

    11. Re:Leave the car at home by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And share the vehicle with lesser forms of live? Gah!! Never!

    12. Re:Leave the car at home by CFTM · · Score: 1

      Many of your points are valid but I disagree with your stance of blaming the society; obesity is an issue of personal responsibility and to put the onus anywhere inhibits change. Does McDonald's cater and contribute to the obesity problem in the United States? Of course it does, but an equally valid position would be to say that the Budweiser company contributes to the problems of alcoholism. In other words, they're merely filling the market with a product that is desired.

      Just like the alcoholic, an obese individual is responsible for their own circumstances. Ten years ago, as a 17 year old kid, I weighed 255 lbs at about 5'9''; I now weigh 169 lbs and have a very low body fat. It's a direct result of changes that I made to my lifestyle, eating habits and exercise habits. Society didn't make me overweight, I made that choice. It's not society's responsibility to prevent people from doing things that will cause them harm and adversely affect their quality of life; society merely creates the infrastructure for people to make choices. Bad choices tend to have bad results, whether it pertains to alcohol, food, drugs, education or any other aspect of life.

      I prefer to have my life served to me without the crutches, thank you very much.

    13. Re:Leave the car at home by Shados · · Score: 1

      I agree with you, though a note on your first point: That kind of peer pressure, especially in the professional world, is definately there, as you state it.

      I personally don't have a car, or even a license (I live in an area where its not needed if you're not too lazy, and I don't have kids that could MAKE it needed... I'll get the license when I get around to it, but for now it force me to do things the hard way... and before someone wonders, I'm almost 30).

      I get it all the time. I'm a consultant (taking medium terms, so its just like normal jobs, except I switch every year or so), and people who hire me conveniently "forget" to ask if I have a car or even can drive, since it is so "expected" in my area (where my girlfriend works, literally 40% of the company, several hundred people, are driver's license-less, so it really depends on where you live). So sometimes 3 months in a contract, someone asks me to go buy something for the office 40 miles away or to go on a client's site (which was never talked about in the contract). They usually totally freak out and throw a huge fit about it.

      On one of my last permanent job, same deal happened... my boss -never- asked if I could drive (and I was quite young at the time too, so it wasn't even a given that I did have a license, and especially not a car), so he kept pushing me to get one. I eventually looked for another job too (with a 120% salary increase, so I'm not complaining).

      Now with the price of gas (and I'm Canadian, so its a lot worse than in the US... something like 5$ a gallon if I can convert liters to US gallons correctly), there's no way in hell I'm driving to work (which in peek hour is suicide anyway... Subway all the way, dodge the traffic).

    14. Re:Leave the car at home by gnarvaez · · Score: 1

      ok, I was a bit off... while the information is on the side of the can, trying to find it online is not so simple (also, I am lousy at english measurements. Still, I should have looked it up).

    15. Re:Leave the car at home by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The specifics might not have been spot on, but your basic idea was still valid - lots of calories end up being silently consumed that way.

  3. Get outside by colourmyeyes · · Score: 4, Funny

    Seriously. It's actually pretty nice out there, or at least it was the few times I've had to go out.

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    1. Re:Get outside by grcumb · · Score: 1

      Seriously. It's actually pretty nice out there, or at least it was the few times I've had to go out.

      And to avoid exercising in public, find a nicely wooded area to bike, hike, canoe or cross-country ski in, depending on your location.

      I am also one of those people who needs to spend a fairly large part of my time alone in order to retain an even keel. I've find few things better for body and soul than tracking deer through the bush, or learning how to approach within 10 metres or so of a herd of caribou. It demands a remarkable amount of mental and physical discipline, and the rewards are tremendous.

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    2. Re:Get outside by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But the Daystar! It burns!

    3. Re:Get outside by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      yeah srsly, get up. get out. feel the breeze. not your keyboard febreeze spray.

    4. Re:Get outside by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't like "outside" or whatever it's called, so I do what prisoners do...I'm referring to the "burpee." Keep that dropped soap crap to yourself.

    5. Re:Get outside by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I live in Phoenix, Arizona you insensitive clod.

  4. Video Games, of course by AnimusF6 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Wii Fit. If you're a geek looking for a half-way decent workout at home, that'll fit the bill quite nicely.

    1. Re:Video Games, of course by Bloodhound+Alpha · · Score: 1

      Cardio is all well and good, and certainly a major factor in the sort of exercise that will help one lose weight, but half-way decent is rarely enough. I personally find martial arts fun, and great exercise, but it does void the whole privacy of the home thing.

    2. Re:Video Games, of course by Prozzaks · · Score: 1

      Dance Dance Revolution anyone?

    3. Re:Video Games, of course by Repossessed · · Score: 1

      I've always preferred Dance Dance Revolution for video game workouts myself.

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    4. Re:Video Games, of course by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why bother when clicking Yes / No / Cancel at Vista has much the same effect?

    5. Re:Video Games, of course by sehryan · · Score: 1

      I second this. I have been using WiiFit for nearly a month now, and it is great. Of course, you have to set your routine, find exercises you like, and such, but it can be very effective once you get in to it.

      My routine is get up early, quick glass of OJ, then WiiFit. My goal is to do at least 40 minutes of exercise, which - when coupled with navigating the system - usually results in an hour total. I used to do yoga at both the beginning and end to stretch out (8-10 minutes each), then 8-10 minutes of strength training, then 20 minutes of aerobics (once unlocked, the step program is awesome).

      Lately, I have dropped the yoga in the beginning, and lengthened the time on strength training and yoga at the end. Some of the strength training exercises are just as good for stretching.

      The biggest change is that it is starting to have an impact in other parts of my life. I have found myself wanting to eat better and eat less, because I want to see that downward trend on the scale every day. The best part, though, is that I am actually sticking to it. My next goal is to get up over four times a week to five. I am hoping that should have an impact on the speed of the loss.

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    6. Re:Video Games, of course by xaxa · · Score: 1

      Dance Dance Revolution anyone?

      *waves glowsticks*
      Sorry, I'm going clubbing tonight.

    7. Re:Video Games, of course by beyondkaoru · · Score: 1

      i'm a big fan of dance-dance-revolution (or stepmania), but never got a decent pad for home use, and never did it regularly. can anyone comment on it as exercise?

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  5. Three Exercises, No Equipment by Tau+Neutrino · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Hindu push-ups, Hindu squats, back bridge. For more information: http://cbass.com/Furey.htm.

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    1. Re:Three Exercises, No Equipment by gnick · · Score: 2, Funny

      Hindu push-ups, Hindu squats, back bridge. For more information: http://cbass.com/Furey.htm [cbass.com].

      That was not the kama sutra link I was looking for...

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    2. Re:Three Exercises, No Equipment by drgould · · Score: 1

      If you can get past the hype, "The Miracle Seven" by John Peterson has all three (calls them the "Furey Squat" and "Furey Pushup", but same thing) plus a lot of other good bodyweight and dynamic resistance exercises. Peterson has some other books out, but they're more expensive and don't add a lot to what's in "The Miracle Seven".

      Also, there are videos on YouTube. Search for "Hindu Squat", "Hindu Pushup" and "Back Bridge".

    3. Re:Three Exercises, No Equipment by Beryllium+Sphere(tm) · · Score: 1

      Yoga. An unscientific survey I saw once suggested it's better than anything else for fixing/preventing back problems. It addresses giving you flexibility as well as strength. You'd want to start with a class or two, though, so maybe it's out of the picture, but remember that a beginner's class will be full of people in worse shape than you.

    4. Re:Three Exercises, No Equipment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hindu push-ups are popular pretty much everywhere (picked up on them from a buddy's girlfriend who's an alternate for the US olympic team this year.) They're great for supplementing upper and core exercises. Sucking at them in the beginning is expected.

    5. Re:Three Exercises, No Equipment by Oktober+Sunset · · Score: 2, Funny

      Hindu push-ups? Is that like normal push-ups, but a Muslim comes in and kicks you halfway through?

    6. Re:Three Exercises, No Equipment by PK+Tech+Guy · · Score: 1

      For a non-obnoxious, hype-free alternative try Ross Enamit http://rosstraining.com/

    7. Re:Three Exercises, No Equipment by Kintanon · · Score: 1

      I've done the Matt Furey stuff before, and while those are some nice bodyweight exercises, and if you are hideously out of shape you'll get some good benefits from them, they are neither good calorie burners nor good muscle builders. A comprehensive program like Crossfit or RossTraining is much better.

      www.crossfit.com

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    8. Re:Three Exercises, No Equipment by nfk · · Score: 1

      So that's how Hindus get those spectacular bodies.

  6. Weights + a ball by LordEd · · Score: 1

    Get an exercise ball and a set of adjustable weights and you can do a lot of different muscle exercises. Google can give you details.

    1. Re:Weights + a ball by nickyj · · Score: 1

      Alternative to weights is bands. Xertube is a brand, but easy to search for. They are cheap $20, and they aren't heavy like weights, and you can store them away with little space taken up. I work out regularly, but I don't like weights because of the chance of overexerting myself. Bands only increase resistance over distance, so the further you push, the more they push back, you really can't hurt yourself with it.

      But for waist, you need more situps and a lot more cardio. Jump rope, if you never done it will take a few weeks to get a rhythm, but then you will be working to keep going.

      Now those are all for in the house. The best I have found is going out and doing something: Frisbee with friends, jog/walk, play a sport, etc. Those are the best things to get you motivated to doing stuff on your own more.

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  7. nerd leaning fitness site by skydude_20 · · Score: 1

    check out some john stone

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    1. Re:nerd leaning fitness site by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hello Mr. Steroid, howduyadoo?

    2. Re:nerd leaning fitness site by DoctorFrog · · Score: 1
      From his "about me" section:
      ...

      Unwavering And Absolute Dedication I refused to allow anything to interfere with my success. Some days I didn't feel like working out, some days my work would interfere with my morning workouts, there were family emergencies to tend to and on and on... but no matter what happened, I adapted to the circumstance and I got the job done. I didn't make excuses--I did what I had to do to achieve my goals.

      I knew right away that this was not the program for me.

  8. Slick Denis by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Heh heh! PENIS DENIS! You'd better go jogging around the park. The fresh air will do you good.

  9. Sex by sir_eccles · · Score: 5, Funny

    It's even more fun when you have an exercise partner.

    1. Re:Sex by kwabbles · · Score: 5, Funny

      The question was:

      "Do any Slashdotters have a regular workout routine that can be performed in the privacy of the home to stave off those pounds?"

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    2. Re:Sex by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The last time I had sex, Bill Clinton was still in office.

      I wish I was joking.

    3. Re:Sex by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I wish I was joking.

      Hint: poor grammar is unattractive.

    4. Re:Sex by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Monica?

    5. Re:Sex by ksd1337 · · Score: 1

      Then it becomes sexercise.

    6. Re:Sex by 4D6963 · · Score: 1

      According to this thread that's grammatically way not wrong enough to deserve an intervention from the grammar Gestapo.

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    7. Re:Sex by sokoban · · Score: 1

      Well, the last time I had sex, George Bush was in office and we were engaged in a war with Iraq.

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    8. Re:Sex by base3 · · Score: 1

      Chicks dig the subjunctive.

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    9. Re:Sex by Leftist+Troll · · Score: 1

      You know what's more unattractive than poor grammar? A grammar Nazi.

    10. Re:Sex by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So, 1990?

    11. Re:Sex by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      squats are good to do as are burpees. You can do squats moving forwards or backwards and you can do them while holding gallons of water. I think if you add those to what you already do it should help a lot.

    12. Re:Sex by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sex is still the answer to that question.

    13. Re:Sex by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The question was:

      "Do any Slashdotters have a regular workout routine that can be performed in the privacy of the home to stave off those pounds?"

      Oh fine. Masturbation.

    14. Re:Sex by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The question was:

      "Do any Slashdotters have a regular workout routine that can be performed in the privacy of the home to stave off those pounds?"

      He was referring to a time honored geek pass time that can be done alone but is more fun with a partner or that's the rumor at least. Aerobic exercise needs at least an hour a day so most don't quite get enough benefit but some obviously are doing more than an hour a day since some geeks are quite thin. Overly developed right arms are likely caused by heavy mouse use.

    15. Re:Sex by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      To provide a brief answer to the ORIGINAL question, since you already do push ups, you might want to try Burpees, yeah go figure with the name but look them up. In brief, you push up explosively while at the same time bringing your feet forward into the bottom part of a squat, then jump UP as hard up as you can, when you land, drop into the top part of a push up, WITH a fluid motion, go down, push up and repeat. Watch videos online for the proper form. These are tough, but if you do only 4 minutes minutes every other day (20 seconds work, 10 seconds rest, repeat, for 4 minutes) you will definitely start burning calories while at the same time improving your aerobic and anaerobic capacity. You only need as much space as is required for a normal push up. You can also jump rope indoors, ab wheel, other body weight exercises (hand stand push ups, just to be badass), BUT, Burpees you can start doing TODAY, you don't need any additional gear. Will recommend the jump rope as well because you can get one for less than $5 dollars. GIVE BURPEES A TRY. You'll thank me tomorrow, or maybe not. I personally call them my 4 minutes in hell, but they are definitely worth the time and effort. First Post.

    16. Re:Sex by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, as you see, GP understood and answered the original question, answer is: sex.
      And THEN as an added bonus, GP mentioned, that sex could be exercised in groups of more than one person. (which IMHO should have been +5 Informative, instead of Funny)

    17. Re:Sex by ZarathustraDK · · Score: 1

      "Do any Slashdotters have a regular workout routine that can be performed in the privacy of the home to stave off those pounds?"

      It's possible to wing it alone. Downside is you'll get Popeye-arms, and you have to take breaks regularly lest you 'overwork' resulting in significant downtime.

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    18. Re:Sex by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, I don't know about you, but I find that the regular exercise my right arm gets helps quite a bit :)

    19. Re:Sex by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The question was:

      "Do any Slashdotters have a regular workout routine that can be performed in the privacy of the home to stave off those pounds?"

      I think a better question is:

      "Do any Slashdotters have a regular workout routine?"

      And I think the answer is "no".

    20. Re:Sex by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You were joking, but really I feel much healthier after having sex; even my acne clears up. I wonder if there actually is substance to that method.

      Aerobics, flexibility, and weight training are all important, but one must not overlook the health benefits of having frequent sex.

    21. Re:Sex by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I know you're joking, but sex is actually a crap way to exercise. Surprising right? I don't have any citations for you but look into it a little bit.

    22. Re:Sex by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's even more fun when you have an exercise partner IN BED.

  10. Maybe you're not doing enough inside by Iamthecheese · · Score: 1

    I can't run because of medical problems, but I do push-ups, sit-ups, curls, and leg lifts. I do enough to keep my heart rate up for half an hour every other day and it's put me in much better shape. (hello belt buckle! long time no see!)

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    If video games influenced behavior the Pac Man generation would be eating pills and running away from their problems.
    1. Re:Maybe you're not doing enough inside by joeava · · Score: 1

      Swim if you can

  11. aerobic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    don't be afraid for other people to see you "exercise"... exercise isn't just for people who are in good shape, and those people know it more than anyone. People will respect you trying to get in shape even if you have to start off really slow, there's nothing to be afraid of.

    If you're looking to lose the weight, strength training isn't what you're looking for, although it seems to be what you're asking for. Get out biking, jogging, roller blading, walking, whatever gets your heart pumping. Start off light and work it up.

  12. Popeye Arms by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have popeye arms from all the one handed browsing, you insensitive clod.

    1. Re:Popeye Arms by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      How could you have two Popeye arms from browsing with one arm?

      Oh...

    2. Re:Popeye Arms by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Heavy mouse.

  13. Kayaking by Moray_Reef · · Score: 5, Informative

    You have to get out of the house, but to suit the introvert, you can go where most people can't. You also get to wear PFD as well as and a baggy dry suit to cover up the unsightlyness if you need it in your area.

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    1. Re:Kayaking by corychristison · · Score: 1

      Kayaking is a lot of fun, but very pricy if you don't own your own kayak.

      I live atop a hill overlooking a valley... There's a nice big river in there and a shop that rents out kayaks, canoes and a few other fun water sport-type things.

      A while back my girlfriend and I were looking for something to do, so we tried Kayaking. It cost $22 a person but I think it was worth it.

      I didn't feel any huge workout from it but it was a lot of fun... Weight training to stay healthy was a big priority in school but has since dropped on my priority list.

      I am now trying to cajole some friends and/or family members to come and make it a weekly thing.

    2. Re:Kayaking by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You could also try late-night jogging and late-night jungle-gym workout. Just watch out for the weirdos.

    3. Re:Kayaking by Fear+the+Clam · · Score: 1

      Kayaking is a lot of fun, but very pricy if you don't own your own kayak.

      You can buy used kayaks and roof racks cheaply from people who bought them to get in shape and never used them.

    4. Re:Kayaking by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      FTW

    5. Re:Kayaking by hal9000(jr) · · Score: 1

      You can get a kayak for around $700 and roof racks range from $20 foam blocks to $600 for a Yakima or Thule rig. You can build a really sweet kayak for about $1000.

      Now on Kayaking. Paddling properly will exercise your core. You should take an intro lesson from a certified BCU or ACA coach to get proper form.

      It works like this. Hold your arms out straight, slightly below your shoulders and a slight bend in your elbows. Twist your body from the trunk to the shoulders) so one arm is out in front. Stick the blade in the water and think about *pulling your body to the blade* by twisting in the opposite direction (unwinding), keeping your arms in a fixed position, and press with the paddle side foot. The paddle and your shoulders should be parallel during the stroke. When the blade reaches your waist, pull it straight up and out of the water, complete the twist and sink the other blade in and repeat.

      Sweep turns and corrective strokes are done the same way, but your making more of an arc through the water and extending the paddle out from the kayak.

      You are using your core to move you through the water rather than your arms which is far more efficient. You can go a longer distance at a steady pace. Your arms will simply give out sooner.

      Oh, and never kayak alone. Many of the stories you hear about people dying start out with "It was a sunny day and Bob went out on a solo paddle ..."

    6. Re:Kayaking by Synn · · Score: 1

      You can buy a used kayak off of craigslist for 200-500 pretty easily. The $500 ones are good for weekend trips, but for a couple hours on the river the $200 ones are fine.

      You can also buy foam roof racks for about 50 bucks.

    7. Re:Kayaking by nfk · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I'm sure he'll feel real comfortable with the rescue crew, and then in the hospital waiting room.

  14. Aerobics Necessary by MarkvW · · Score: 5, Informative

    You very much need aerobic exercise to supplement your muscular-oriented exercise. Aerobic exercise works the heart, lungs, and circulatory system--very critical subsystems.

    I'd recommend a treadmill or a bike with a trainer hooked up to it. Have a TV in front of you. After reading a couple books about it, use a heart rate monitor to keep from pushing too hard or too easy.

    Try to build up to one hour per day. Don't discontinue your calisthenics. Read about exercise.

    1. Re:Aerobics Necessary by mattack2 · · Score: 1

      I was going to mention a treadmill too. I can only force myself to do it since I watch tv while doing it. I've had a few used treadmills before, but finally bought a new one after the last broke (motor died). About $550 after taxes, it'll be cheaper than even the company gym in less than 3 years. Less than 2 compared to most typical gym memberships. I'd just use the company gym (watching video on an iPod or portable DVD player so I could control exactly what I watched) if it were free like a lot of companies.

    2. Re:Aerobics Necessary by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'd recommend a treadmill or a bike with a trainer hooked up to it. Have a TV in front of you.

      And don't forget a fan! One builds up a huge sweat when training indoors.

      I used to ride competitively and used to use a trainer for interval workouts or when it was raining. It introduced me to new depths of boredom and groin numbness. A TV definitely helps as does coming up with some kind of workout plan rather than just sitting there and riding.

    3. Re:Aerobics Necessary by Martin+Blank · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I'll add my experience into this. I'm currently getting caught up on 24. I missed a few episodes way back in Season 1, and so I stopped watching it. I use it to get roughly the same amount of time in on the treadmill each session (42:30, give or take a minute or so), and since I've just reached 4pm in Season 1, I still have a long way to go, even daily, to finish it out.

      Pick a series that you've missed, one that you can get a little lost in. Press play on the DVD remote and press the start button on the treadmill at the same time. Anything that goes for a total of 30 minutes or more (any hour-timeslot TV show from The Sopranos to The Wire to West Wing works perfectly) will keep you diverted from the effort itself enough that you'll be able to pass the time without much notice.

      I've only been doing this for a couple of months (started 24 a little into it), and I've managed to have to stay off of it due to foot injuries for a week at a time twice (get good new running shoes from a sporting good store!), but I'm averaging about 450 calories burned according to the built-in meter without too much stress, and I've dropped 14 pounds from my peak. I have a goal of dropping another eight pounds by October, which should be easily done well before, and may push on for another five after that, but that puts me at 140, and my family complains when I'm that low.

      If you're a complete geek, graph everything available. I track time, distance, average speed, calories burned, and fat calories burned, as well as pounds burned (based on 3600 calories per pound), average per session, number of sessions, weight each day, and the approximate target date the goal will be reached. All of these are graphed, so I can see my weight dropping and my efforts returning improved numbers.

      Another key point is to watch your calorie intake. I've tried doing the diet tracking and getting proper nutrition or leaving out fats or whatever, and I find that I stop this after a couple of weeks. It's much easier to track calories instead, and you don't stress over what you eat for dinner. I've read that it the average metabolism burn about 12 calories per pound per day, so if you weigh 160 pounds and can keep your intake below 1920 calories per day, you're going to do well. It's not at all difficult to maintain 1600 calories per day without much discipline, and it doesn't send your body into a crash that causes it to horde fat. It also gives you room for the occasional pizza day.

      One of the things that I do to help stave off the occasional hunger is to drink more fluids. I've found that the low-calorie Crystal Light mixes give me a good variety with little hassle and little cost. If it works for you, try Diet Coke Plus. It's not everyone's favorite flavor, but it's different from regular Diet Coke, and I use it to douse my occasional soda cravings.

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      You can never go home again... but I guess you can shop there.
    4. Re:Aerobics Necessary by mattack2 · · Score: 1

      If you like the Crystal Light mixes, there are generic versions available. Walmart has one for I think $1.88/can, compared to $5 or more for Crystal Light.

    5. Re:Aerobics Necessary by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I can vouch for cycling on an exercise bike in front of the PC. I use my 'tv torrents time' to do an hour of exercise - at the same time I can chat to my friends or read /. I don't feel like I've lost any valuable me-time while exercising and it keeps my mind alert, too.

    6. Re:Aerobics Necessary by Martin+Blank · · Score: 1

      The nearest Walmart is about five miles from where I shop, where the Crystal Light mixes are a little under $4 per can. Since it's more fuel to get to Walmart, I'll stick with the Crystal Light. :)

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      You can never go home again... but I guess you can shop there.
    7. Re:Aerobics Necessary by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I agree, ergo bike in front of tv, 1h per day, watch a couple of tv series.
      cant remember password so posted as anonymous

    8. Re:Aerobics Necessary by 93,000 · · Score: 1

      Doing the exact same thing here. Watched season 1 of heroes. Now I'm up to season 2.5 of BSG. I have a problem sitting down and watching TV without doing something else (feel like I'm wasting time), so watching when I'm on the treadmill is the one time I can focus on what I'm watching. I actually look forward to it.

    9. Re:Aerobics Necessary by apt142 · · Score: 1

      There's a lot of things you can do while you're working. But, they may make you look odd to the causual observer.

      I actually keep a pair of foam nunchucks at the office. While I'm thinking through a problem or waiting for some code to compile/process to complete, I whip them out.

      Granted, real nunchucks would be better training, but I can't have weapons at work. (Those sticks in the mud.) And at least with the foam ones, I don't have to worry about bashing my computer screen in when they slip.

    10. Re:Aerobics Necessary by GregGardner · · Score: 1

      I totally agree on watching interesting TV shows while working out. I ride a stationary bike 5 times a week and so I just load my Tivo up with as many one hour shows as I find interesting. It makes the work-out much more bearable and sometimes I even look forward to it. A Tivo HD w/ the DVR Expander (external hard drive) allows you to keep over 600 *hours* of standard def recordings so you can easily keep entire seasons of shows until you get around to watching them.

      Unfortunately when the summer rolls around there's less new programming, but the cable networks are trying to take advantage of this and are creating new entertaining shows that only run in the summer. I was running low on shows to watch in the past few weeks, but luckily Burn Notice and Mad Men both ran marathons of their first seasons from last year that I never caught (just before starting their second seasons), so I just recorded them all and now I have enough to watch to last me through August. Alternatively picking up seasons of shows on DVD works well, too, as you mentioned.

  15. Martial arts by Fry-kun · · Score: 4, Insightful

    They're cool enough to do in front of other people, no matter how bad you are, and you have something to show off to your friends. It's a win-win scenario.

    --
    Did you know that "FTW" ("for the win") is a direct translation of "Sieg Heil"?
    1. Re:Martial arts by argent · · Score: 1

      Just don't blow out your knees trying to do your kata with your feet in the wrong position because your sensei doesn't understand anatomy.

      Not that I'm bitter. Well, not... hell yes, I am.

    2. Re:Martial arts by Paradigm_Complex · · Score: 5, Funny

      They're cool enough to do in front of other people, no matter how bad you are, and you have something to show off to your friends.

      You've never been beatten up by a twelve year old girl, have you? Say, while testing for my yellow belt. Err, your yellow belt.

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      "A witty saying proves nothing." - Voltaire
    3. Re:Martial arts by Bloodhound+Alpha · · Score: 1

      My yellow belt test went quite fine thank you very much. :P

    4. Re:Martial arts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I attempted to find a place that teaches Tai Chi in my area, but couldn't so I'm learning Wing Chun Fut. At my belt level (white) I'm required to do 150 crunches, 150 leg-lifts, and 50 pushups, per day. Most importantly, my diet has changed from 2-3 meals to 4-5 meals a day and a larger intake of water instead of soda. Overall, my health has improved dramatically over the last 6 months.

      What others are saying is correct: read about getting fit, and find something to do to keep your heart-rate going. The amount of food isn't as important as what you're putting into your body.

    5. Re:Martial arts by tempVariable · · Score: 1

      Agreed about martial arts. It is practical AND it even teaches you good skills while keeping the weight down. Two birds with one stone. =D

    6. Re:Martial arts by Hyppy · · Score: 1

      They're cool enough to do in front of other people, no matter how bad you are

      I think the Star Wars kid would disagree...

    7. Re:Martial arts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      About as well as your brown pants test, right?

    8. Re:Martial arts by Bloodhound+Alpha · · Score: 1

      At least I did not have to take the red pants test. So hard to fight with cramps.

    9. Re:Martial arts by zobier · · Score: 1

      They're cool enough to do in front of other people, no matter how bad you are, and you have something to show off to your friends.

      You've never been beatten up by a twelve year old girl, have you? Say, while testing for my yellow belt. Err, your yellow belt.

      Even despite situations like that, all the students at the Kwoon I go to are lovely and there is no judgement. It's really nice to work out somewhere where people don't form an opinion of you based on your physical abilities.

      --
      Me lost me cookie at the disco.
    10. Re:Martial arts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They're cool enough to do in front of other people, no matter how bad you are, and you have something to show off to your friends. It's a win-win scenario.

      You've obviously never seen the "Kung Fu Tryouts" video:

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCJ-WTJNBbE

    11. Re:Martial arts by Eli+Gottlieb · · Score: 1

      No, not really. I made it to blue and then had to move.

    12. Re:Martial arts by angelic+upstart · · Score: 1

      Martial Arts are good. If you train in a real place. I would recommend MMA training. Find a MMA gym in your town do Muay Thai kickboxing and BJJ and you'll be in shape in no time. Go atleast 4 nights a week. A lot of the "martial art" schools teach you nothing about real fighting or even give you a good work out.

    13. Re:Martial arts by CryptoKiller · · Score: 1

      I second that, Martial Arts are the absolute business. Just be sure to look out for the people trying to rip you off:

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bullshido

      and

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mcdojo

      Good luck!

    14. Re:Martial arts by Fry-kun · · Score: 1

      Actually, I have :D
      It didn't take me all that long to catch up, though. Kids take you with speed, adults - with cunning. It's the teenage guys you should be worried about, really - they can give you a run for your money.
      I just tested for my brown belt, BTW - and I fully expected to be asked to take on 2 opponents at once :P The instructor didn't think it necessary this time, though.

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      Did you know that "FTW" ("for the win") is a direct translation of "Sieg Heil"?
    15. Re:Martial arts by MenThal · · Score: 1

      You've never been beatten up by a twelve year old girl, have you? Say, while testing for my yellow belt. Err, your yellow belt.

      That is actually a hell of a lot less embarassing than beating up a twelve year old girl, testing your orange belt...

    16. Re:Martial arts by burgundysizzle · · Score: 1

      LOL, can I suggest a style that doesn't allow full contact?

      I do Karate (Orange belt now) once a week for 2.5 hours (some times with an extra class for 4.0 hours total). In terms of at home I sometimes practice Kata for a total of about another hour. I've been doing it for a bit under a year and at 41 I'm probably more fit than I've ever been before.

      If someone out there is considering taking up a martial art try several out and choose one where you feel comfortable with the environment and the Sensei. If you're doing it for fitness find a Dojo where you can have some fun (start out with the kids lessons that also take beginner adults as you'll get to play some games as well). Don't worry about how good or bad you are (you'll always be learning). If you've got an injury or physical limitation find somewhere that will take it into account when training and grading.

      There should always be some fun involved unless you're doing something like training seriously for competition, if there is some fun rather than just only hard work you're more likely to keep going (even if there is some fun it will probably be hard work as well).

    17. Re:Martial arts by MrKaos · · Score: 1

      Just don't blow out your knees trying to do your kata

      Your instructor didn't show you how to stretch your knees? it was the first thing I learned about martial arts and have never looked back.

      1. Stand up straight, place feet together 2. Bend knees slightly 3. cup hands on top of your kneecaps (let your hands warm up your kneecaps a bit from contact) 4. With both knees together gently make small circles parallel to the floor in one direction and then in another direction 5. Over time increase the diameter of the circles

      6. do it every day (more than once a day is ok too)

      This works to improve your knees over time, hope this help

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      My ism, it's full of beliefs.
    18. Re:Martial arts by MrKaos · · Score: 1

      They're cool enough to do in front of other people, no matter how bad you are, and you have something to show off to your friends. It's a win-win scenario.

      Absolutely. I have been doing martial arts for about 20 years and I find it the best of many excercises I've done. It's the perfect exercise for geeks *because* it can be done alone and has the same type of intense technical component that geeks would love. You would be surprised how many other I.T people train martial arts AND are good at it, I just love it. I have met world champion judo practitioners who are also professional IT people. They each have a different emphasis like grappling, punching or kicking and eventually weapons. Go for something like karate or kung-fu to begin with and if you like that explore what other schools have to offer. Grappling, whilst confronting, gets you fit fast so does kick boxing - but it hurts too (good pain - good pain). Most schools are great and it helps you with your social skills and builds confidence in yourself, especially handy if you are negotiating contracts or mixing it up with sales people.

      When I am lucky enough to play, field sports like soccer, hockey, football are completely addictive but you can hurt yourself real bad with ballistic contacts - but they are soooo much fun. The running builds an iron will that you can apply to your work by keeping you patient and the team sports build the team building skills you can use to get on well with people at work.

      Bike riding is good, but it can get a little old when you have to deal with car drivers or in the rain. Keep you ass on the seat, make sure your knees are fully extended at the end of the pedals travel and smile when you are going up hills. Awesome aerobics excercise, drills your legs - good if you want to be lean.

      I have also done weights on and off, but having a workout partner that you can trust, who will not get distracted and has a safety mindset will multiply the gains you both can get because you can attempt heavier weights. The absolute focus gained from doing weights is exactly the same focus I use when coding and visa-versa. Having a coder's focus makes you fearsome in the gym - not everybody can achieve the focus of a programmer, conversely I also think that weights help train this focus. Weights is extremely hard work, anyone who tells you its boring isn't doing it right. Weights will give you the quickest bang for buck if you do it right and are persistent, three months of good solid weights training and you won't know yourself, after a year you will never look back.

      Finally, I am lucky enough to be able to walk to a beach, swimming in a pool is one thing, but challenging the ocean by body surfing is an extremely intense workout, lungs scream for breath, your muscles feel like they are vibrating. I can catch most of the waves a board rider can now and coming down the face of a big wave you have caught by your own swimming has got to be one of the biggest rushes ever, when you get spun by the wave at the end and spat out - all tension just disappears.

      I was told early on in life that I had a heart murmur and unless I wanted to become a statistic I really had no choice but to have a lifestyle that incorporated physical activity. I have been fit enough for the doctors not to be able to tell it's there but when I get lazy (we all do) it is still there - it's a big incentive to keep going.

      Of course nutrition is also important, so learning how to cook and being a good cook is a critical component but it's not that hard, just avoid processed food and pretty soon you will automatically pick up the right food to eat from the supermarket - lots of vegetables fruit and meat, pick a few recipes and practise on yourself - later you can impress your friends with your culinary skills.

      The good thing about this is I.T is one of the few professions where you can incorporate these activities into your day. Just remember to shower before going back to the office and wear deodorant!!!

      Hope this helps.

      --
      My ism, it's full of beliefs.
    19. Re:Martial arts by init100 · · Score: 1

      It's really nice to work out somewhere where people don't form an opinion of you based on your physical abilities.

      Actually, since March I work out in a regular, albeit better (and more pricey, but it's worth it) than average, gym. At first, I thought it would be like the physical education classes during my school years, with other attendants making mean comments of your performances, especially in the changing rooms. But when I finally went there, there was no problem. People might form opinions of you, but they keep them to themselves and generally mind their own business. And I found out that there are not only bodybuilders/jocks at the gym, on the contrary, most people are regular guys just like yourself, trying to get a better fitness.

      Aside from that, I really enjoy walking. I usually walk part of the way back from work, taking the subway train the rest of the way as it is a little bit far (around 8 mi) to walk. In addition, I prefer walking in the inner city, as it is much more scenic than the comparably boring suburbs, so I usually catch the subway when I reach the city limits, around 3-4 mi from work.

    20. Re:Martial arts by Mattsson · · Score: 1

      Problem with most martial arts is that they usually are one on one combative training, or at least have quite a large portion of this.
      This doesn't fit everyone.

      I, for instance, like martial arts, but dislike the sparring training...
      Iaido is a good art for me. No sparring, simply swordplay kata's without any real adversary.
      Like Tai Chi, it can be performed on you own anywhere where there's enough space to swing around you bokken or sword.

      You loose the high intensity endurance training that comes as a part of the more combative martial arts though...

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      /.Mattsson - My native language is not English, so please don't whine over linguistic errors. (That's lame anyway...)
    21. Re:Martial arts by ShakaUVM · · Score: 1

      Heh, I got my 1st degree black belt from beating up a 12 year old kid. At least he was pudgy...

    22. Re:Martial arts by puddles · · Score: 1

      Please ... no LARPing ... being geeky is bad enough without throwing in LARPing "martial" arts.

    23. Re:Martial arts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've lost between 20 and 25 pounds so far this year just by taking up Tae Kwon Do. Like the Tai Chi comment, once you learn some basic stances, strikes, and blocks, you can learn different Poomse (forms) which will exercise different muscle groups, help you burn calories, lose weight, increase flexibility, improve posture and balance, and calm your mind.

      There are many different kinds of Poomse, some schools have their own, most use traditional Tae Guek or Pal Gwe for lower belts. I particularly like the Pal Gwe because they tend to combine more different stances, strikes, and blocks than the Tae Guek which means they are more intellectually stimulating to perform.

    24. Re:Martial arts by stewbacca · · Score: 1

      Who would have EVER guessed that a slashdot discussion on exercise would involve martial arts!

    25. Re:Martial arts by geminidomino · · Score: 1

      The question I have about it is whether someone pushing/in his 30s should even bother. I've had an interest for some time, but now that I can afford it, I wonder if I'm not too old.

    26. Re:Martial arts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      many times.... when I was 12 :(

    27. Re:Martial arts by argent · · Score: 1

      Your instructor didn't show you how to stretch your knees?

      Yes, he did, in fact he had knee problems (probably from the same source) and was downright grindstone about doing knee stretches during warmups. The problem was doing kata over and over again with my feet in the wrong position, because that's what he insisted on, putting unnatural stresses on my knees. Until he came back from a trip to tell us that he'd been doing some of the stances all wrong. Well, damn.

    28. Re:Martial arts by CrazyP · · Score: 1

      I agree, I started to do jiu jitsu about 3 months ago, it is entertaining, and a great work out. And because of this I've started to exercise more on my own (running, lift weights). Starting a martial arts will give you motivation to keep going and get in shape, of course you have to find the right one for you.

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      How do you take a picture of the best moment of your life?
    29. Re:Martial arts by MrKaos · · Score: 1

      Until he came back from a trip to tell us that he'd been doing some of the stances all wrong. Well, damn.

      Holy shit dood, no wonder your pissed off, guess it's a good thing that I hated kata.

      --
      My ism, it's full of beliefs.
    30. Re:Martial arts by Mad_Rain · · Score: 1

      I'm rapidly approaching 31, and I started learning Kung Fu at 29. At my school, there are 3 other regular students between 30 and 36 (and as you get to know the other students, you learn of their inner geek), and a few over 40 who have been there for at least as long as I have (like many gyms or other Martial Arts, there are always some who come and go as they find out it's either "not for them," or "too tough." If it got easy, it'd stop being a workout!). Several of the black belt students are in their 30's (several in their 20's), our Sifu is in his 40's, and Sigung is ... well, I'm sure he's approaching his 70's, and he's going strong as well. In case you're in the NYC area (or Miami, Orlando ... Aberdeen and Edinburgh Scotland, or Tai Shan, Guangdong Province) look them up.

      Perhaps that should be an additional piece of advice to fellow students/geeks looking for a Martial Art to study - there should be a broad age range in the adult classes. It means it won't completely devastate your joints from the workout of it, and will still be useful to you in your older ages...

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  16. Treadmill by Wonko+the+Sane · · Score: 1

    You can pick those up pretty cheap in the spring after everyone has given up on their new year's resolutions.

    1. Re:Treadmill by bagboy · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I agree here. 30 minutes at 8mph (4 miles). Burns approx 450-500 calories. Then some sit ups and push ups. Top it off with 20 minutes of stairs. About an hour to an hour and a half and you've burnt approx 600-800 calories. Keeping weight down is simply a matter of burning more calories than you consume. If you begin to look at everything you eat as calories you'll need to burn (ie, 5 more minutes on the treadmill), you'll know what and when to cut things from your diet.

    2. Re:Treadmill by Chris+Pimlott · · Score: 1

      That's what I did. If you live in an largish apartment building, chances are good you have free access to a treadmill already.

      I got a plastic tray from Ikea and tied some elastic around the back so I could mount it on the control panel and read a book while I walked. This way I didn't feel like I was "losing time", rather it was a chance to get in a solid block of reading while getting some exercise. And it really makes the time fly faster.

    3. Re:Treadmill by stewbacca · · Score: 1

      30 minutes at 8mph (4 miles). Burns approx 450-500 calories.

      WHAT???? I think your treadmill is off. I burn that many calories in about half that time (at 190lbs). I run 15-30 miles per week and run various 10k and half-marathons. I can assure you that people involved in this thread (hint, the ones who see little benefit in exercise) can't run 8mph for two minutes let alone FOUR MILES!!! I've been running 3-5 times a week now for the past four years and 8mph on a treadmill is tough for me past 2 miles. Even if you meant 8 min/miles, that's still REALLY fast.

      For reference, here's a link to a Navy Seal forum about "trying" to run that fast: http://www.navyseals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=146220

      So as not to discourage those on here who may think of taking up running, here's some advice. Get a heart-rate monitor and keep your heart rate in the fat-burning zone. The main reason people don't lose weight when they run is because they run too fast, getting out of fat-burning, into cardio-building zones. Running slowly, especially when you are new to it, not only burns more fat, it also doesn't discourage you from keeping up the habit.

    4. Re:Treadmill by foniksonik · · Score: 1

      especially go lawn sale hunting in affluent neighborhoods... they always have the best stuff and won't worry about prices too much. We picked up a nice inclining treadmill with rate monitor, etc for $100 - was a $1200 model when bought.

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      A fool throws a stone into a well and a thousand sages can not remove it.
    5. Re:Treadmill by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      that's a helluva pace and distance to recommend for a beginner.

  17. I am in the same boat, here's what I do: by problah · · Score: 4, Informative

    I went and picked up a cheap yet sturdy bike ($500.00 Specialized Hard Core Comp), and I take the train to work. from train stations in either direction it's about a 10 minute ride (20 total one way), however I can bike down to farther train stations to get a real benefit from it.

    So the next train station from my work is about a 45 minute bike ride away, while the first one is ten.

    The one after that is about an hour and a half away, and so on an so forth.

    You can do this with bus stops too.

    It's uncomfortable at first getting used to the bike, so pick up Mtn Bike shorts (They aren't the spandex ones, they look like regular shorts), and get used to it, then have at it. I love it now, and I royally hate working out in front of people.

    Good luck!

    1. Re:I am in the same boat, here's what I do: by whtvr · · Score: 1

      Don't mean to be picky but it's HardROCK comp dude (-;

      I got Specialized Hardrock Sport Disc, awesome bike. I ride it couple of times a week, 30km each trip - I didn't really loose any weight but I feel a lot better anyway.

      I also try to go to the swimming pool like at least once a week and am careful about what I eat. That's enough to keep my weight and since I don't really want to loose any, just to get fit all I need to do is cycle/swim more.

  18. Wii Sports by argent · · Score: 3, Interesting

    If you play it right, it's a workout. You won't get as good scores at the weenies who sit on the couch and twitch the controllers, but who cares?

    1. Re:Wii Sports by gEvil+(beta) · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Riiiiight...You do realize you get more of a workout doing 50 or so jumping jacks (takes about a minute) than you do playing Wii Sports for 5 or 10 minutes. Or to put it more succinctly, if you're getting a workout from Wii Sports then you are horrifically out of shape.

      To the OP, I'd suggest both biking and running. I'm an introvert and I have no problem doing either of those things (of course, everyone is different). I mean, once you get out there and start moving, it's not like you're actually around the same people for more than a few seconds at a time. And if it feels like you've been following someone for too long (or they've been following) then it's easy to head down a different road or change direction or something.

      If you're concerned about some pudge, just get some baggy gym shorts and a dark wicking t-shirt. Seriously, if you get out and ride 10-15 miles and run 3-4 miles every few days (say 3 times a week), you'll start shedding weight pretty quickly. And you'll feel a whole lot better, too!

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      This guy's the limit!
    2. Re:Wii Sports by klenwell · · Score: 1

      I don't have a Wii but I have another Nintendo product that has made my life healthier: a DS Lite. I make it a point to go to the gym at least 4 times a week. But, my god, is it boring -- even with all the eye candy around.

      Get a DS Lite, a gym membership, and a couple good turn-based game (I like Fire Emblem for the Game Boy Advanced port and World Series of Poker for the DS side). I usually hit the stairclimber for 30 min and the cycles for 30 min.

      10 min on the stairclimber used to feel like 30 min. Now 30 min feels like 5.

      Who knew a video game company could end up being such a great promoter of exercise?

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      Innovation makes enemies of all those who prospered under the old regime... -- Machiavelli
    3. Re:Wii Sports by gnick · · Score: 1

      If you play it right, it's a workout. You won't get as good scores at the weenies who sit on the couch and twitch the controllers, but who cares?

      If you've already got the Wii and you want to use it to work out, just buy the Wii Fit. Mostly, it's just a scale that will track your weight, but there are a number of really useful benefits. Some of the Yoga/Strength exercises are good muscle builders and the Yoga/Balance games are pretty good for posture. And as for the Aerobics, the step-aerobics and jogging may help if you haven't moved in a while. However the Hula-hoop & Super-hula-hoop are actually a decent aerobics workout if you keep it up for 15 minutes or so (if not necessarily balanced around your muscles).

      Wii Sports is fun and I'll break a sweat playing baseball or boxing (the lamest two of the five games), but I wouldn't classify it as a workout.

      --
      He's getting rather old, but he's a good mouse.
    4. Re:Wii Sports by marcushnk · · Score: 1

      yeah being an avid player of wii fit and wii sports I can heartily say your statement is incorrect...

      It should read:
      If you play it wrong, it's a workout.

      And I'll add a hell of a lot more fun as well :-)

      --
      "Consider how lucky you are that life has been good to you so far. Alternatively, if life hasn't been good to you so far
    5. Re:Wii Sports by argent · · Score: 1

      You do realize you get more of a workout doing 50 or so jumping jacks (takes about a minute) than you do playing Wii Sports for 5 or 10 minutes.

      Probably so, but 50 jumping jacks I don't do isn't much of a workout compared to an hour of playing Wii Tennis I do.

  19. Well not quite, BUT... by Moryath · · Score: 4, Informative

    #1 - Yourself Fitness. PC, PS2, Xbox all options for it (and the ps2 and xbox titles are both compatible with their "upgraded" counterparts).

    #2 - Wii Fit. Surprisingly effective if you discipline yourself to doing it. Downside: not as organized.

    And now we get to some of the better stuff.

    #3 - Find a local swimming pool, strap on a pair of rollerblades, get a bicycle.

    #4 - Join a sports league. Your local parks & recreation department is a good start here and can steer you to local team sports if nothing else. This will also help with your "introverted" problem.

    #5 - Once you take care of the "introverted" problem... get a girlfriend and do a lot of the world's #1 calorie-burning exercise.

    1. Re:Well not quite, BUT... by Daniel_Staal · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Being an introvert is not a problem. Letting it rule your life may be, but then letting any one characteristic rule your life is a problem.

      A sports league is good, but it is not what the questioner asked for: regular, daily, exercise. It's usually twice a week at best. For all you know he may actually be part of a sports league, and just not consider it to be enough exercise to be worth mentioning in his post.

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      'Sensible' is a curse word.
    2. Re:Well not quite, BUT... by Ethanol-fueled · · Score: 1

      #5 - ... get a girlfriend and do a lot of the world's #1 calorie-burning exercise.

      If you're in it for the calories, you might as well jog(which burns 286 calories per half hour) as opposed to sex(which burns 173 per half hour). Or, better yet, jog in the afternoon(then shower, dammit!) before having sex in the evening. You'll lose a lot of sleep at first but you'll be sweating pimp juice by the end of the week.

    3. Re:Well not quite, BUT... by spir0 · · Score: 5, Funny

      #3 - Find a local swimming pool, strap on a pair of rollerblades, get a bicycle.

      I actually tried this and found I worked up a sweat very quickly. But a word of warning -- when cycling with rollerblades in a swimming pool, stay in the shallow end. The deep can be treacherous and the bike will weigh you down like you wouldn't believe.

      --
      The reason girls and Windows users don't understand UNIX is because all the documentation is in Man files.
    4. Re:Well not quite, BUT... by Bwana+Geek · · Score: 5, Funny

      #5 - Once you take care of the "introverted" problem... get a girlfriend and do a lot of the world's #1 calorie-burning exercise.

      Your girlfriend makes you take her shopping too, eh? I don't care what she says -- the only thing getting thinner is my wallet.

    5. Re:Well not quite, BUT... by Colonel+Korn · · Score: 5, Funny

      If you're in it for the calories, you might as well jog(which burns 286 calories per half hour) as opposed to sex(which burns 173 per half hour).

      That's not very impressive sex.

      --
      "I zero-index my hamsters" - Willtor (147206)
    6. Re:Well not quite, BUT... by Ethanol-fueled · · Score: 1

      True, but if the "anonymous reader" (AKA Kdawson) who submitted the article(or lack thereof) has to ask us to know how to do something as simple as exercise, then just try to imagine his sexual ignorance.

      Remember, we all have to learn somewhere, and the above calorie estimates are liberal ones applied to somebody who is a newbie to exercise and sex.

    7. Re:Well not quite, BUT... by denobug · · Score: 0

      The reason girls and Windows users don't understand UNIX is because all the documentation is in Man files.

      Dude, I can't help but let out a chuckle on your sig. I just had to say it. Nothing related to the post. Moving on.

    8. Re:Well not quite, BUT... by Kugrian · · Score: 1

      Nah, that's just jogging out of sexual frustration. Been there my friend.

    9. Re:Well not quite, BUT... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I actually tried this and found I worked up a sweat very quickly. But a word of warning -- when cycling with rollerblades in a swimming pool, stay in the shallow end. The deep can be treacherous and the bike will weigh you down like you wouldn't believe.

      ROFL

    10. Re:Well not quite, BUT... by kklein · · Score: 5, Funny

      #3 - Find a local swimming pool, strap on a pair of rollerblades, get a bicycle.

      I don't know what sport you're describing there, but it sounds pretty sweet.

    11. Re:Well not quite, BUT... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This will also help with your "introverted" problem.

      Yeah, quit sitting there by yourself doing all that thinking.

    12. Re:Well not quite, BUT... by kaizokuace · · Score: 0, Redundant

      #3 - Find a local swimming pool, strap on a pair of rollerblades, get a bicycle.

      This is a real ultimate workout. Riding a bike with rollerblades on while at the bottom of the pool. Man you are hardcore to the MAXtreme!

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    13. Re:Well not quite, BUT... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is why alot of Slashdotters are fat... Sorry folks but aerobics and the like are good for health, don't get me wrong, but a joke to loose weight. I am not talking about LBS. Muscle weight is a good thing. I am talking about that flabby stuff.

      You can ride a bike till you are blue in the face, but that's not going to be the ticket. Only building muscle mass will you loose significant flab. Good targeted weight training (with some cardio) is waaaay more effective than aerobics only. That's because muscle mass equals burning more calories doing NOTHING, like coding on your butt. While cardio only allows you to loose weight while doing it.

      Sorry I think I would rather improve my metabolism over the long haul then killing myself on a bike.

      Slashdot is a really bad place to ask this question though. The very fact that people are extolling aerobics as a way to loose weight proves it.

      I am not going to toot my credentials as to why I am right... Just do your research at real fitness websites. Read a book like Body for Life... These are proper sources, not slashdot.

      Of course anything is better than sitting on your butt.

    14. Re:Well not quite, BUT... by Easy2RememberNick · · Score: 1

      #3 - Find a local swimming pool, strap on a pair of rollerblades, get a bicycle.

        That doesn't sound very safe.

    15. Re:Well not quite, BUT... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      #3 - Find a local swimming pool, strap on a pair of rollerblades, get a bicycle.

      I actually tried this and found I worked up a sweat very quickly. But a word of warning -- when cycling with rollerblades in a swimming pool, stay in the shallow end. The deep can be treacherous and the bike will weigh you down like you wouldn't believe.

      Nothing burns the calories like imminent death!

    16. Re:Well not quite, BUT... by Fear+the+Clam · · Score: 1

      If you're in it for the calories, you might as well jog(which burns 286 calories per half hour) as opposed to sex(which burns 173 per half hour). Or, better yet, jog in the afternoon(then shower, dammit!) before having sex in the evening. You'll lose a lot of sleep at first but you'll be sweating pimp juice by the end of the week.

      Or, you could play squash. Burns about twice as many calories as jogging, but it's a competitive, cutthroat game, so the time passes quickly. Just find people at your own level to play with.

    17. Re:Well not quite, BUT... by jzuccaro · · Score: 1

      Plus Wii Fit keeps you motivated to reach a certain goal. It kind of feels like beating a game. Also, Stepmania plus a red octane metal pad should do the trick. Regarding number 5, I donÂt quite get it, I though it worked this way: you get fit in order to get, or at least improve your chances of getting a gf, no the other way around.

    18. Re:Well not quite, BUT... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      I'd rather exercise with 2 hours of sex than 1 hour of jogging.

    19. Re:Well not quite, BUT... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I went to the local swimming pool wearing rollerblades on a bike. They kicked me out...something about preventing rust?

    20. Re:Well not quite, BUT... by eh2o · · Score: 1

      OP meant to say an *empty* swimming pool... sweet skater tricks! Yeah!

    21. Re:Well not quite, BUT... by smellotron · · Score: 0

      man woman

    22. Re:Well not quite, BUT... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      #3 - Find a local swimming pool, strap on a pair of rollerblades, get a bicycle.

      I did try this before. But, I don't recommend it for the following: it is incredibly difficult to swim in a pool with rollerblades on, its like anchors on your feet. Plus, the gym staff were not amused with having to fish out the bicycle from the bottom of the pool.

      They might cancel your membership. :(

    23. Re:Well not quite, BUT... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think it's Clown Waterpolo.

    24. Re:Well not quite, BUT... by fastest+fascist · · Score: 1
      #5 - Once you take care of the "introverted" problem... get a girlfriend and do a lot of the world's #1 calorie-burning exercise.

      It may be #1 in terms of enjoyability, but sex, sadly, isn't that great as exercise...

    25. Re:Well not quite, BUT... by Oidhche · · Score: 1

      #5 - Once you take care of the "introverted" problem... get a girlfriend and do a lot of the world's #1 calorie-burning exercise.

      I'll take care of my "introverted" problem once you have taken care of your "extroverted" problem.

    26. Re:Well not quite, BUT... by TedRiot · · Score: 1

      >> #3 - Find a local swimming pool, a strap on, a pair of rollerblades, get a bicycle.

      >This is a real ultimate workout. Riding a bike with rollerblades on while at the bottom of the pool. Man you are hardcore to the MAXtreme!

      And while wearing a strap on!

    27. Re:Well not quite, BUT... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      #1 - Yourself Fitness. PC, PS2, Xbox all options for it (and the ps2 and xbox titles are both compatible with their "upgraded" counterparts).

      #2 - Wii Fit. Surprisingly effective if you discipline yourself to doing it. Downside: not as organized.

      And now we get to some of the better stuff.

      #3 - Find a local swimming pool, strap on a pair of rollerblades, get a bicycle.

      #4 - Join a sports league. Your local parks & recreation department is a good start here and can steer you to local team sports if nothing else. This will also help with your "introverted" problem.

      #5 - Once you take care of the "introverted" problem... get a girlfriend and do a lot of the world's #1 calorie-burning exercise.

      #6 Profit

    28. Re:Well not quite, BUT... by novafluxx · · Score: 1

      This was the funniest thing I've read all day, and my day just started. Thanks ;-)

    29. Re:Well not quite, BUT... by dafradu · · Score: 1

      #6 - Get a heavier mouse!

      #7 - Don't use any kind of remote control (garage door, tv, stereo...)

      #8 - Use the stairs whenever its possible, anything under 4 floors i take the stairs...

      #9 - Heavier fork and knife?

      In the end its the little things that matters...

      If all above fail, staple your stomach!

    30. Re:Well not quite, BUT... by D+Ninja · · Score: 1

      #5 - Once you take care of the "introverted" problem... get a girlfriend and do a lot of the world's #1 calorie-burning exercise.

      Doing the dishes?

      Seriously, though, the type of physical activity you're referring to does not burn nearly the amount of calories people tend to attribute to it.

      Second...why the hating on the introverts? Nothing wrong with being introverted. (FTR: I'm definitely not an introvert.)

    31. Re:Well not quite, BUT... by redmoss · · Score: 1

      "#3 - Find a local swimming pool, strap on a pair of rollerblades, get a bicycle."

      Yeah, biking through the swimming pool while wearing rollerblades made me lose a lot of weight too. Highly recommended. Be sure to surface periodically so you don't run out of breath.

    32. Re:Well not quite, BUT... by cavemanf16 · · Score: 1

      #5 - Once you take care of the "introverted" problem... get a girlfriend and do a lot of the world's #1 calorie-burning exercise.

      Ah, but you're forgetting the incredible toll this will exact from your mental state, wallet, and liver.

    33. Re:Well not quite, BUT... by Jason+Levine · · Score: 1

      #5 - Once you take care of the "introverted" problem... get a girlfriend and do a lot of the world's #1 calorie-burning exercise.

      But what happens if you're married? With two children? What do you do then?

      --
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    34. Re:Well not quite, BUT... by geminidomino · · Score: 1

      Segmentation fault (Core Dumped).

    35. Re:Well not quite, BUT... by geminidomino · · Score: 1

      Second...why the hating on the introverts? Nothing wrong with being introverted. (FTR: I'm definitely not an introvert.)

      Seems like a bunch of folks here are incorrectly conflating "introversion" with things like "shyness", "agoraphobia" and/or "social anxiety disorder".

    36. Re:Well not quite, BUT... by s.bots · · Score: 1

      #3 - Find a local swimming pool, strap on a pair of rollerblades, get a bicycle.

      How are you supposed to ride a bike in a pool while wearing rollerblades? It's hard enough just to ride the bike in the water...

    37. Re:Well not quite, BUT... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Try "Bronco" sex, it's much more vigorous/calorie consuming than regular sex. Simply inform you partner, during the act, that she is not as good as her sister. See how long you can stay on for, exercises all muscle groups.

    38. Re:Well not quite, BUT... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      or DDR (Dance Dance Revolution) on PS2. My wife would be *drenched* when I'd get home. Served as her aerobics.

      Stepmania is a port and runs on Linux. Need minor space (4x4) for a pad and enough sense not to run into things.

    39. Re:Well not quite, BUT... by russotto · · Score: 1

      "Social anxiety disorder" is what sneering extraverts and pill-happy shrinks call introversion. Shyness is what introversion was called before everything got medicalized. Agoraphobia is separate; that refers to being afraid to leave the basement for its own sake, not because the world outside has people in it.

    40. Re:Well not quite, BUT... by xaxa · · Score: 1

      #5 - Once you take care of the "introverted" problem... get a girlfriend and do a lot of the world's #1 calorie-burning exercise.

      But what happens if you're married? With two children? What do you do then?

      Play sports with your kids, or take them swimming.

    41. Re:Well not quite, BUT... by geminidomino · · Score: 1

      "Social anxiety disorder" is what sneering extraverts and pill-happy shrinks call introversion. Shyness is what introversion was called before everything got medicalized.

      Not so sure that's true. I'm as introverted as they come. Doesn't mean I'm uncomfortable around strangers, just means I'm not the type to make small talk or be overtly social.

    42. Re:Well not quite, BUT... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ROFLDAMNIT!, Spir0! You beat me to it. Well played.

    43. Re:Well not quite, BUT... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Your body becomes more efficient at using calories so what takes you 1/2 hour now to burn 286 calories will take you an hour after your body is properly conditioned. Best way to continue burning calories is "shocking" your system, wind-sprints work the best for this. Warm up for 5 mins, then sprint hard for 1 min, followed by jogging for 5 mins then sprint hard for another minute. You should get 3 sprints in and finish it all off by jogging for 5 mins then walking for 5.

    44. Re:Well not quite, BUT... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Also, if you get married, there goes your exercise routine.

    45. Re:Well not quite, BUT... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Flat out right the reason you are gaining weight is because you spend most of your day sitting down. that means the only mucsles you are using are the ones that support or upper body and that is less then 50% of your total muscle mass. I you really want lose weight you need to find a way to be active. When you are not at work DO NOT sit down save to eat. Stay off the computer. Do not watch tv.
      if you live in a house I'm sure there all sorts of home improvements that need to be done. get your pale skin out side in the sun and take a long walk
      walking improves your vascular system in your legs which promotes an increase in metabolism. something that will decrease if you are constantly sitting down.
      finally change your diet. get rid of sugar of any processed form and drink water. exercise is great but you can't do it all the time. you need to activate your life style if you really want to become healthy.

    46. Re:Well not quite, BUT... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you're in it for the calories, you might as well jog(which burns 286 calories per half hour) as opposed to sex(which burns 173 per half hour).

      That's not very impressive sex.

      Yeah, that's only 15 calories.

    47. Re:Well not quite, BUT... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you're in it for the calories, you might as well jog(which burns 286 calories per half hour) as opposed to sex(which burns 173 per half hour).

      That's not very impressive sex.

      who has sex for half an hour?
      if you want to lose weight without doing exercise reduce the amount of food you eat until you go to bed a little hungry.

    48. Re:Well not quite, BUT... by PhotoGuy · · Score: 1

      #3 - Find a local swimming pool, strap on a pair of rollerblades, get a bicycle.

      Okay, I'm on the bike wearing my rollerblades, at the local swimming pool. But I'm not sure I get this sport. What do I do next?

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    49. Re:Well not quite, BUT... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's called rollerdrowning with a bike strapped to you

    50. Re:Well not quite, BUT... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you are just burning 173 Cal Per half hour, You are not doing it right! Try 320cal per hour buddy.... Try standing up moving around, Pick her up... Tre

  20. ROM by pkluss · · Score: 0, Redundant

    http://www.fastexercise.com/ I'm dying to know how this thing works. Get it and report back in a few weeks.

  21. morning by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Try exercising in the morning. It's a bit harder, but speeds up your metabolism for the rest of the day, so you end up burning more calories.
    In terms of specific workouts, I do pull-ups (need to hang a bar for that), sit-ups, push-ups and crouches. Once you're in better shape, vertical push-ups (while standing on your hands) are quite useful. Also, "dive bombers" are good in terms of muscle coverage. Add a couple of runs during the week and you should be able to maintain a very good shape.

  22. More like brain surgery by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is not really rocket science. You need to do cardio to take off pounds. Maybe stepping would be enough for you, but a stationary bike or treadmill wouldn't hurt. For muscle, get some free weights and maybe an all-in-one machine, and use the web to figure out the best balance of workouts for each muscle group.

    I'm no fitness expert but I myself have been pretty successful in getting a decent home workout without having to pay for a gym membership. If you work for a decent-sized company though you should have access to a gym there, or maybe you can bargain for them to pay part of your membership at a local gym. If you really do 60 push-ups a night, I don't think you need to worry about other people looking at you.

  23. few options by UnknownSoldier · · Score: 1

    Find something that YOU enjoy...

    e.g.

    - Yoga
    - Pilates
    - Weight Lifting
    - Martial Arts (not really indoors, but it is a great and practical way to stay in shape)

    --
    "How can you understand Life if you don't even understand what happens after Death?"

  24. Like everyone else? by badboy_tw2002 · · Score: 1

    I don't think there's anything especially nerdy/geeky I can think of besides maybe DDR that you'd do for exercise. Really spirited cosplay? Find a gym that's open really early or late if you don't like other people around. Or just run/bike/walk outside by yourself with some music to drown out all the other meat-avatars. I like rock climbing at the indoor gym, which seems to have a geekier-than-average following. That does involve people of course, but why not exercise the social muscles at the same time?

    1. Re:Like everyone else? by Unending · · Score: 1

      Rock climbing is my thing too.
      I prefer bouldering to sport climbing as I don't have to rely on anyone else that way.

  25. Rowing by Hemogoblin · · Score: 3, Informative

    If you live in a city with a rowing club, you could take up one-person sculling. It's non-impact, relaxing, and you get out in the fresh air. Unfortunately, you can't do it in the winter, and it's really difficult to carry the boat to the water on your own, so you have to have some social interaction. The solitude out on the water is nice though.

    1. Re:Rowing by lordlod · · Score: 1

      Rowing is an interesting sport, it works a wide range of muscle groups and is non-impact. You can row in groups or by yourself and in most countries right through the year.

      The biggest downside in my view is that the water is generally flattest at dawn so you have to be up early.

      With sculling you should be able to move the boat by yourself, a decent quality boat is very light. Rowing in the winter is certainly possible (if the water doesn't freeze), the risk involved is drowning due to the cold water before you can get back in the boat. Practice improves the time to get back in and experienced rowers rarely fall out.

    2. Re:Rowing by JuanCarlosII · · Score: 1

      you can't do it in the winter, and it's really difficult to carry the boat to the water on your own

      That depends where you live, I scull happily at any time of year here in the UK (or at least I used, saving up for my own boat now), and the carrying the boat gets a whole lot easier with practice. I'd definitely recommend it as an awesome way of getting exercise, although I found that if I wanted to get/stay in any kind of shape then crew rowing was much better as I tended just to find myself paddling up and down square blades at about 14 when I net sculling so it was more a chill-out thing.

    3. Re:Rowing by Yakman · · Score: 1

      Or you could try dragon boating. It's a team sport, easy to get into and good exercise. It's not hard to find a dragon boat club in Australia, can't vouch for anywhere else in the world (except for maybe Asia!). Although the world championships in 2011 are being held in Florida, so there must be some dragon boaters in the US :)

    4. Re:Rowing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I agree with the rowing completely, but no body of water needed. Try a WaterRower. I started three months ago and have lost 18 lbs and toned all over. Best of all, it has a tiny little footprint.

    5. Re:Rowing by Dr_Barnowl · · Score: 1

      can't do it in the winter

      Speak for yourself ; I used to get out of bed at 0600 on a Sunday in February and wade waist deep into the sea with my team and row.

      Of course, when you got out, you regretted taking a warm shower, because you regained the sensation in your feet, and discovered that they hurt like hell from the cold.

    6. Re:Rowing by Dr_Barnowl · · Score: 1

      The only rowing machine I really like is the Concept II line ; this is the machine that all the competition rowers use. It has a serial port option and Windows software to log races and even race online. Not cheap though. But it's the only machine that felt right after being in my school team. That and the other machines are too short for my stroke length, and I'd knock against the stops.

  26. Um.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I don't understand the question.

  27. Build some muscle by mpeach · · Score: 1

    Buy some weights - real weights, ones that you can actually add pounds to - and gradually build some muscle. Push-ups and sit-ups won't do much.

    1. Re:Build some muscle by letxa2000 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Neither will weights, if your goal is to lose pounds. Weight training is good for what it's good for, but it's not the best option for burning calories. And burning calories is what it sounds like this guy needs.

    2. Re:Build some muscle by UnknownSoldier · · Score: 1

      You don't need weights -- your own body weight is enough. It just depends on the type of push-ups and sit-ups as Matt Furey has proven.

      Ever seen a cat lift weights? How do they stay in shape? Because they are always stretching their muscles.

      QED

    3. Re:Build some muscle by mpeach · · Score: 1

      That's the exactly same response I usually get in Real Life. The reality is that muscle mass translates into more calorie expenditure at rest. Unfit people that struggle to run for 10 minutes will be burning hardly any calories doing aerobic exercise, so weight training is a critical component of any exercise program. The great irony of aerobic training is that the calorie expenditure only really becomes substantial enough to cause weight loss *after* the individual is already fit enough to maintain it for a prolonged period. That's not to say that aerobic training isn't important... but most people greatly underestimate the importance of weight training. (Girls especially, in my experience. "But I don't want huge arms!", they say.) For weight loss I would prioritise diet, weights and cardio, in that order. All are important.

  28. Air Alert by jdpeek0 · · Score: 1

    It is a bit intensive and takes someone who is dedicated to do it. But it really gets me into shape. just google air alert pdf and it should be the first link. If you have bad knees or back I wouldn't suggest doing it. Also do it on carpet, it makes it harder, but not as much strain on the bones.

  29. Grow some balls by Free+the+Cowards · · Score: 0, Troll

    Put your neuroses to the back of your head, buy a bicycle, and start riding it. It's fun, and really, what do you care what other people think?

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    1. Re:Grow some balls by v1 · · Score: 1

      tho make sure you have backup plans for long rides... I realize some people can regularly do 75-100mi rides in a day, but I am not one of them. got a little too far from home and had to stay the night at a friend's. but made for an enjoyable 2 day weekend nevertheless and somehow got through it without feeling absolutely destroyed come Monday.

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    2. Re:Grow some balls by Free+the+Cowards · · Score: 1

      Or just stay closer to home. You can do plenty of long rides without ever going more than a few miles away from where you live. If you're a geek (and if you're reading this, you're a geek) then you should be able to handle the concept of planning a trip such that you are less than half tired when you're halfway done.

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    3. Re:Grow some balls by v1 · · Score: 1

      Well things didn't go even remotely as planned. I intended to go out in the afternoon and return late in the evening, But I forgot a cable necessary to attach my large 2nd battery to the bike light, and didn't realize this until after I'd passed the commit point for returning with usable light. So it was long haul for the weekend, or try to drive many miles on a very dark bicycle trail cross-country with NO light.

      Was one of those "murphy's rules" weekends too. The destination had recently flooded badly so there were NO vacancies at any hotels, I didn't bring my cell phone, (my bad) and my palm pilot decided to sync the wrong way last time so I lacked current numbers/addresses. The entire ride was full of almost-deal-breakers the entire time, but nothing catastrophic. Not even a flat. Overkill on the food and drink packed too. Arrived at the lot and was hit with a sudden severe thunderstorm before I could drive the short distance to my house too. Only reason I found my friend's place was I happened to mark his house on my GPS last visit. (and even that I had to use my spare batteries, thank god I don't pack light)

      What a weekend...

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  30. Treadmill + Laptop by Paradigm_Complex · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Get your own treadmill in a basement and out of site and do techie stuff while on it. Videogames that you... *huff, puff* ...that you can get sucked into are the best. I can easily walk miles while staring at a DS or PSP or TV screen with a wireless controller for my console. It doesn't have to be video... *huff, puff* ...doesn't have to be videogames, though. A properly mounted laptop could be used actual work or just... *huff, puff* ...or just for web browsing.

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    1. Re:Treadmill + Laptop by one+oldman · · Score: 1

      Well, being an introvert you can get yourself a treadmill, so you won't have to go out in public, then rig your treadmill to drive a generator and your computer to run off the generator. That way, if you want to play on your computer, you'll have to work out to do so.(ha ha) You'll lose weight in no time.

    2. Re:Treadmill + Laptop by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Better yet, connect the treadmill to the laptop power supply. :P

    3. Re:Treadmill + Laptop by dafing · · Score: 1

      ill repost my post here again, try doing that on an exercycle, its much easier, as you are seated rather than moving up and down, left and right , makes headshots in Battlefield: Bad Company easier :P I cant stress the benefits enough :) I was fat all my childhood, for no particular reason, when I picked up an Exercycle my father had bought and never used. I started off sweating at only 10KM at a time (6 miles?) but got up to doing 80+KM a day (50 miles) for a few months. I still exercycle, am actually sitting on it right now :), and normally aim for roughly 1500 calories a day (63KM) or as much as I have time for. I got a newer Exercycle, only cost $350 NZ, lets say $300 American, and I have lost an incredible amount of weight, I couldnt be more grateful. And now I dont even notice my feet pedalling at 35+KM an hour, I just read my Wikipedia entries etc that have built up :) I hope at least one person who would like to lose weight reading this decides to give this a shot :) Its easy, just start with say 10KM a day and work it up over a few months. Good luck!

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    4. Re:Treadmill + Laptop by steevc · · Score: 1

      I have an elliptical trainer in the study. I can get my exercise whilst watching internet videos, listening to podcasts or catching up on something on MythTV. I'm not sure I could coordinate playing games whilst doing it.

      There's an initial investment in the machine, but it's cheaper than going to a gym for a year and makes it more likely that I will exercise given that I don't have to drive anywhere and cuts my carbon footprint too.

      I don't have weight problems, but then I don't exist on pizza and Coke.

  31. Crossfit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    www.crossfit.com

    Follow the workout(s) of the day. Usually they're simple, body weight exercises, but sometimes they use weights as well. In the event you can't do/lack the equipment check the FAQ's on the side for substitutions. Generally speaking, they're about 20 minutes of good, hard work. Be sure to scale to your ability level.

    (and for the record, I first heard about the site from a 57 year old programmer; he can do it, so can you).

    1. Re:Crossfit by lurker4hire · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Just want to put another nod out there for crossfit, I'm going to a crossfit gym but if you're the introvert type and can handle being extra careful to observe good proper form on your own, doing the WOD (workout of the day - scaled to your fitness level) will give you a good all around workout over time.

      I watched most of the theory vids before deciding to try it out:

      http://www.crossfit.com/cf-info/excercise.html#Clips

      I'd recommend starting with the video "intro to intensity"

      l4h

    2. Re:Crossfit by steelerguy · · Score: 1

      Another vote for Crossfit. I started to workout and keep in shape a couple years after getting out of college. It was getting pretty obvious that I was doing way too much sitting and fast food eating.

      Although I used to just do traditional weight type workouts (3 sets of 10 type stuff), I was getting really tired of it. Found Crossfit and have been doing it for over a year now. It is hard, but it will get/keep you in great shape. It also can be done at home if you buy a few pieces of equipment and sub exercises when you have to.

    3. Re:Crossfit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've been working out and doing many different sports for years. Crossfit is easily the single most effective all-round functional fitness routine I have ever seen.

      You can do every workout at home. Pick up a dirt-cheap barbell set on craigslist, build a pullup bar using plumbing pipe, maybe buy some rings for $50 and you have almost every exercise covered.

      Make sure you read the FAQ.

    4. Re:Crossfit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Crossfit CAN be a little much for a beginner if you're on your own and have no previous workout experience. Without a spotter or someone to critique your form, you can easily blow out a knee, back, or shoulder even doing the basic workouts. Of course, the cult of Crossfit devotees in their forums enthusiastically work out even while injured, so maybe rotator cuff problems aren't something they worry about.

      However, the Crossfit gyms are some of the most unpretentious places you'll ever go (most look like abandoned garages), AND you'll have the benefit of someone there to help you through the learning period.

      On the plus side, once you get a few pieces of equipment, you can do the full workout at home in a small space, and doing the workout of the day WILL help you get in shape. I just have my reservations about any group of people who are so proud of working out to the point of vomiting.

    5. Re:Crossfit by jamesbarlow · · Score: 1

      CROSSFIT is awesome.

      It's just a simple (ha!) 20-30 minute workout a day.

      In the last six months I've gone from 1.5 to 13 pull ups, from 210 to 285 deadlift, and other similiar gains.

      Most of all, I feel better, I have more energy during the day, I sleep more soundly, and even though I work out by myself in a home gym, I feel connected to the crossfit community through the message boards.

      The workouts will hurt you, but you'll get an amazing sense of accomplishment.

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    6. Re:Crossfit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Another another nod for crossfit. Excellent overall fitness (cardio, muscle, flexibility, etc) and doesnt take expensive equipment or big machines.

      It would be best to go to a Crossfit gym for a little training, but again, it can all be learned from the website.

    7. Re:Crossfit by JoeMac · · Score: 1

      The odds are very high that the original poster could not possibly do better, in terms of an exercise program, than to start doing CrossFit. Most posters have suggested long-distance endurance workouts, weight machines (ugh!) and/or non-functional, bodybuilding exercises (curls, anyone?). CrossFit is functional, varied, and fun! It self-selects for a certain type of highly motivated individual, which the original poster may be. CrossFitters can do many, many things very well.

      A geek bonus is that it's open-source and internet-based. IMHO, it is one most important sites on the internet. For fitness, nothing else comes close.

    8. Re:Crossfit by lurker4hire · · Score: 1

      I agree with you completely, the devotees are a bit much, I've never really liked the "work out till you puke" attitude, I understand the value of hitting the wall, but if you're puking you've gone too far IMHO.

      I'll back up the unpretentious'ness of the crossfit gyms, you'll generally not find any mirrors in them and lots of whiteboard space, which, if you're like me, is a good sign. I went to my first crossfit in november of last year, i'm 35lbs lighter and a whole lot healthier now. I'm aiming for another 20lbs off and I think I'll have it before my one year of crossfit.

      For reference, I could not do a single pullup, had difficulty with the second set of 5 situps, and was generally out of shape when I started. Recently I did my first completely unassisted dead hang pullup (hanging from bar, feet off ground, chin completely over the bar), I've front-squatted my body weight, and yesterday I knocked out more situps than I want to count doing Annie (http://www.crossfit.com/cf-info/excercise.html#Girls).

  32. Just like in Quake....QUAD by PrimalChrome · · Score: 1

    Quadruple the repetitions that you're performing for starters. Do them in sets of 25. Add a series of squats (even if they're without added weight). This will build muscle...which just existing will burn calories.

    Most importantly, add cardio to your exercise. Whatever activity you choose, do it for a minimum of 30 minutes. Walk with speed, jog, run, jump rope, do jump'n'jacks. Whatever you're comfortable with at your current state.

    Finally, take a critical eye at the foods you're eating, the portion size, and how much snacking you do. Cut trans fats, saturated fats, and empty calories. Eat more veggies and fruits. Snack on small portions of healthy things to help with appetite control.

    1. Re:Just like in Quake....QUAD by dissolved · · Score: 1

      doing 25 reps is not the best way to build muscle. it's a great way to get injured though.

      In my experience between 8-12 reps is where you need to be. If you're going to "quad" that do 4 sets of it rather than ruin your joints flinging smaller weights about. There is a diet and exercise plan at http://www.neilmct.com/ that helped me. It's a holistic view of diet and lifestyle, though it caters towards the end for bodybuilders it teaches you good sense (and a bit of science). Disclaimer: I don't know the guy, I don't owe him anything. I'm not advertising it for the sake of it, it really helped me.

    2. Re:Just like in Quake....QUAD by PrimalChrome · · Score: 1

      He's doing pushups and situps, not pushing weight. If he wanted to really build muscle, sure he should be doing a few sets of 10 reps at high weight...but he's nowhere near that. If this guy is having trouble with a handfull of pushups and situps, he needs to start at first base. And while we're here, where the hell do you get that higher reps at lower weight ruins your joints?

    3. Re:Just like in Quake....QUAD by dissolved · · Score: 1

      why does high rep at low weight ruin your joints? how about the lack of resistance? flinging a 5kg dumbbell about 25 times when you can lift 20kg won't exercise you, it'll just make your joints work harder. RSI will ensue. also what's the point in doing 25 reps of an exercise and get zero benefit if you can do 8 of the same at a much higher weight and get some genuine results?

      I apologise for missing the point about situps/pushups. 25 is fine but I do feel that people relying on situps to lose weight are on a hiding to nothing and will get really disillusioned really quickly compared to if they were doing proper a full body workout.

  33. If you can go to a... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... gym, I used to be slightly phobic about it but got over it. Better equipment there, it is a "focused" place where you are less likely to be distracted or diverted by any issues at home. Plus for me forking over some cash tends to provide some motivation to keep at it.

    Another recommendation is if you want to schedule some yearly downtime/rest, do it during the hottest time of the year as that is the toughest time to keep a regimen going.

  34. Martial arts... by geogob · · Score: 1

    I found that martial arts are an excellent way for geeks to stay in shape. It's hard work, but a good way to create a good training and workout discipline.

    There is a large variety of martial arts, some easier than others. My personal choice: Kung Fu.

  35. utlimate... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    frisbee. I realize you want to exercise alone, but ultimate seems to attract more geeks than any other demographic. It's a hell of a lot of fun and the people involved in the sport are some of the most accepting I've ever met. You'll be whipped in to shape quickly and it'll improve your social life.

  36. I imagine ... by imaniack · · Score: 1

    Two body parts that get much work out is a hand and d*ck
    :P

  37. Two things... by Binary+Boy · · Score: 2, Informative

    Ride a bike as much as possible - if you need to run a local errand, hop on the bike. After a few weeks it's easy - often much easier than dealing with a car.

    For more regular workouts, 3-4 years ago my girlfriend discovered Yourself Fitness - she hates gyms, is in good shape, but wanted a more structured way to work out at home - like the gym, but in private. Yourself Fitness is an Xbox title - not sure if it runs on Xbox 360 - and is like having a personal aerobics and yoga instructor at home. I was little shy of aerobics in general at first, but once I got into it, learned the various moves without looking like an idiot, I was hooked. In the first year I lost 30 pounds (which was my target) and I felt 1000 times better.

    I'm sure similar results could be found with any aerobic exercise, but as someone who hates the gym scene, and for whom time is tight, Yourself Fitness was a godsend.

    Both of our old Xboxes are dying, the disc itself is a bit scratched up and sometimes flakey, so we're just hoping for a new release on one of the current consoles. We've got a Wii and Wii Fit too, and like it a lot, but don't think Wii Fit is as convenient - a lot of time just navigating the app, haven't found a really good guided training mode... we use the Wii Fit to break up the routine of Yourself Fitness now and then, and it's a blast too... but at least for us, nowhere near as effective as YF on Xbox - and these days you should be able to pick up both items for $100 or so total.

    1. Re:Two things... by MrNiceguy_KS · · Score: 1

      Soft-mod the Xboxes, then upgrade to larger hard drives and copy the Yourself Fitness disc to the hard drives. Assuming you're not using Xbox live, that is. Most of the "dying" Xboxes I've seen had failing DVD drives. With a modded box and a big hard drive, you only use the DVD once for copying the disc. A failing DVD drive might need a couple of attempts to successfully copy a disc, but it's a lot less annoying than having things freeze up in the middle of a game because of a bad disc read.

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  38. Walk by gmuslera · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Is not a heavy activity, helps you to relax, give problems another point of view and enjoy fresh air/view/whatever, even know *shudder* people.

    1. Re:Walk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Another vote for walking. I like it because:
      1. I can do it every day by walking home from work.. 1.8 miles, takes me about 25 minutes depending on traffic lights.
      2. I don't need to change out of work clothes.. just find some appropriately businesslike but comfortable shoes.
      3. Low impact.. doesn't stress my bad knee too much.
      4. It's less dangerous than cycling in the city.. except when I have to dodge my way through Critical Mass..
      5. It's a good warm-up for other exercise at home.. sit-ups, pull-up bar in a door frame, etc.
    2. Re:Walk by Kainaw · · Score: 1

      Walking can include the stairs. I work on the 13th floor. Since I started using the stairs this year, I've gone from 220 to 190 pounds. I've even had two other programmers awkwardly point out that I look like I've lost weight. Perhaps it is my adjustment from squeezing into 38" pants to easily fitting into 36" pants. As a side note: I've always had trouble with HDL (mine was below 10). It is now above 30. I hope this continues and I'll be rather fit by the time my son is old enough to notice if he has a fat daddy.

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    3. Re:Walk by aaarrrgggh · · Score: 1

      And, if you really want to be inside, try coding on this...

    4. Re:Walk by Tigloki · · Score: 1

      This is the best advice I have seen in this thread so far. The reason I say this, is that it is what worked (is working) for me. Well, that is to say that it is one part of what is working for me.

      "Let me 'splain" (apologies to Mr Ricardo):

      I am a 44 year old Geek Fer A Livin'. When I was a much, much younger man, I was never concerned about my age, my weight, my length or any other measurement. Now that I am getting older, wider, and a hefty percentage of my SPAM has me starting to worry that...(different thread for that I guess) - anyway, my son is 11 and I was routinely embarrassed when we would be out and about for the day and my stamina, trick knee, unreliable ankles and a plethora of other euphemisms for old, fat and out of shape, would keep me from keeping up with my 4th grader, then 5th grader, and now that he is entering middle school, and getting old enough to really participate in some of the fun activities that I did when I was young, I find that I am too damned fat, old, and out of shape (did I mention that I smoke?)to keep up!

      Well, I had enough. I decided that I needed to start "getting in shape". I simply don't have time in my schedule to allow for regular Tai Chi classes. I love the concept, but in practice I just spend the money and never attend the classes because the rest of my life conspires against it. I bought my wife and I both nice bikes to ride with our son, but again...time, weather, etc. I can't ride a bike to work, I carry my laptop, and about 30 lbs of tools and whatnot back and forth, as well as being out in the field most of the day working on Mr and Mrs Cleaver's computer.

      So this is what has worked for me. First, give up on weight as the benchmark for success. Weight is only part of the equation and will follow along of it's own accord if everything else is in line. The key is metabolism. The only way to keep your metabolism up is to eat right and exercise. However, the debate that raged on above between the weight trainer and bicyclist, is just another Coke vs Pepsi (RC!) debate ... wait ... more like Fedora vs Ubuntu (BSD!) debate.. regardless of which camp you're in, you are both right and both wrong, and who cares? In the end it's a cola drink, it's not windows and it IS exercise!

      Walking is a great start. Walking and stretching. I bought a good book about stretching because if I am going to exercise, the last thing I want to do is injure myself and lose six weeks of progress, and lose my enthusiasm to try again for fear of re-injury. And I can stretch in my own house without an audience.

      Now my son and I walk for between half and hour and an hour every Mon, Wed, and Fri, whether we want to or not. We throw in the odd Tue, Thurs, or weekend day if we feel like it. We walk briskly, on the way out and march back like we are late for something. It gives us time together, happens on no set schedule as regards time of day, and if we miss a day nobody dies. If the kid has better things to do, I take a cell phone and call my brother, my best friend from high school, or one or another of a few old coworkers that I see less often now that I am self employed.

      Add to that the fact that I have started eating five or six times a day instead of once. I drink water regularly as well. And there you have a recipe for a very low impact, high metabolism lifestyle with not really a ton of effort. The eating and water are actually fun. They say that your body freaks out because it thinks it's starving if it only gets fed once a day. So it starts going into emergency fat storage mode. Eating a small relatively healthy snack every two to three hours and drinking a large glass of water at the same intervals (I alternate, so I am horking something down almost once an hour)keeps the body relaxed about where its next meal is coming from so it quits storing fat. The next thing is to keep in mind is that muscled people lose weight in their damned sleep! (f*%$ers!) Muscle burns calories, fat doesn't. W

  39. home gym? by reaper21 · · Score: 2, Informative

    I usually workout at the gym next to work. Honestly if you do push-ups, situps in the morning and night then go running (or biking) every other day the pounds will drop. The diet is the most important though. In order to lose weight the recommend eating around 5 meals a day. Each meal around 500 calories which consists of 40 % carbs, 30 % protein, and 30% healthy fats. This is at every meal. If you don't eat enough your body may begin storing fat to use as energy later on. If you would like more information, I would check out http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/index.html If you have any questions about workouts or diets, the site above has it all. I hope this helps.

  40. i ride my bike to work! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Keeps me fit, saves time :)

  41. Get a bike! by Overly+Critical+Guy · · Score: 1

    I know you asked for something in the home, but honestly, riding a bike is so much fun, and the fresh air is nice. You only need about 30 minutes of physical exercise a day to stay fit and maintain a healthy weight. Try it--it'll clear your head and help you think better too.

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    1. Re:Get a bike! by Binary+Boy · · Score: 1

      Absolutely - aside from basic physical well-being, any workout has the added benefit of leaving you feeling mentally refreshed - not sure if it's just the increased oxygen flow, or other body chemistry, but I've learned to use it as a tool - when I have a difficult project, a paper to write, or just an exhausting work day, working out will help kick your brain into gear... and you sleep much better too.

  42. My Exercise Routine by Pazy · · Score: 1

    .....Dosent exist.

  43. get out of the house by asv108 · · Score: 1

    Seriously, there is reason you need to exercise in your house. Get out, go jog, get a bike, join a gym. Who knows, you might meet a female.

    1. Re:get out of the house by asv108 · · Score: 2, Funny
      "Seriously, there is reason you need to exercise in your house."

      What I meant to say: there is no reason you need to exercise in your house.

    2. Re:get out of the house by yorkshiredale · · Score: 1

      Believe me, you need to exercise in your house.

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  44. Capoeira by cudiaco · · Score: 1

    Capoeira, 3x a week. Fantastic workout, and you learn a lot about yourself. Every time you go, you get slightly better, which a satisfying feeling.

  45. Abs like Brad Pitt by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you're serious about getting fit, this website has been a great boon to me. You can do it in a gym, or buy just a few things (exercise ball, rubber bands, pull-up bar, and dumb bells [soup cans work well too]) and do it in the comfort of your own home. 12 weeks to 6-pack abs. It'll make ya work, but its only 20-30 minutes, 3 times a week. Enjoy!

    http://www.mensworkoutguide.com/home.html

    I swear I'm not the proprietor of this site. I just use it.

  46. some advice from a fit geek by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    sit ups and push ups are decent for toning some select areas but they really aren't cardio. You need to run, bike, jog, walk or swim (I like swimming it tones as well as offers good carido) and elevate your heartrate for at least 30 mins every other day (every day if you are trying to lose weight). Re-evaluate your diet and eating patterns as well.

    Gyms can't hurt, it may be a little embarrassing if you aren't used to it, but you'll get over it, consider hiring a personal trainer as well at least until you figure out how your body works.

    I'm 36 now, was extremely fit in highschool and college, but gained a stupid amount of weight while programming in my 20s, it took about 2 years to get back on track but have not regretted a second of it.

    avoid quick fix, avoid crash diets. Take the slow path and adjust as necessary.

  47. Keep your cardio up by kypper · · Score: 1

    Remember that it doesn't matter how many sit ups you do - if you aren't keeping the fat down, you'll just look chubby. I run 8.5K every couple of days and that makes a huge difference.

    Granted, regular sit up and push up routines are required as well... just make sure you are doing your push ups with push up bars (or three even chairs). For sit ups, I love the bicycle and jackknife techniques when I feel like alternating my routine.

  48. Marine Corps training, sir!! by Eggplant62 · · Score: 3, Informative

    Here, I can attest that this routine was what worked while I was with the Marines; there's no reason you couldn't do most of it indoors. Find a doorway in your home where you can hang a pull-up bar. Do the pushups and crunches at the recommended intervals and train up. You might even work in reverse crunches while laying facedown halfway off the bed with your feet secured by a friend.

      The only thing you might have to do in public is running. For me, there's no better exercise than running.

    http://oneweb.utc.edu/~semperfi/physical.htm

    1. Re:Marine Corps training, sir!! by KGIII · · Score: 1

      Horah! I can still outrun my kids. (Duration, speed is obvious as they're only 7 and 9.)

      --
      "So long and thanks for all the fish."
    2. Re:Marine Corps training, sir!! by bamwham · · Score: 1

      You can put a packing strap across your matress to secure your feet for full range crunches and reverse crunches. No friend needed. Mine runs under the matress and in the morning I snug it down and slip my legs under for my routine.

  49. requires choice by uniquegeek · · Score: 1

    From what you're saying, it doesn't matter what equipment you buy because you're determined to hole up at home. Health and any degree of commitment to it requires.. commitment. You *know* what you *should* be doing. A minute part of the population is actually unable to do the things they should be doing. It's just a matter of choices and priorities.

    Sounds like seeing the sun sometime might do you some good too.

    It also sounds like you're beginning to acknowledge that health might be a bigger priority than it used to be.

    The main thing you need is aerobic exercise, not weight training. Get a little weight training in at the same time by doing things like walking to the grocery store.

    I find walking to the grocery store gives me a little exercise, sunlight, freaking awesome arms, and better decision making (I'll carry four litres of milk home instead of four litres of Coke)

    1. Re:requires choice by the+grace+of+R'hllor · · Score: 1

      Weight training is necessary for long-term fat loss. If the body has to burn calories, it gets them wherever it can find them while attempting to minimize caloric expenditure. This involves breaking down muscle.

      While cardio is heavily leg centric (and of course supporting musculature), upper body strength will decrease further if there is a significant caloric deficit. Less musculature means less caloric expenditure.

      As for cardio... build up to a certain point (say, 45 minutes sustained cardio without being tired), then switch to HIIT (high intensity interval training). Studies have shown that people doing HIIT for half an hour burn about half as many calories as people doing steady-state for an hour, but burn about 9 times as much fat per calories as the steady-state group.

  50. Need better requirements, but try rock climbing by Fastolfe · · Score: 1

    Your requirements aren't well-defined:

    I need a solid and effective routine that will tone all my muscle groups efficiently.

    vs.

    Do any Slashdotters have a regular workout routine ... to stave off those pounds?

    Do you want to burn calories ("stave off those pounds"), build/tone muscle, or both?

    Any cardio program (elliptical machine, bicycle) will help burn calories (and of course, eating fewer calories will do just as well). You can get decent machines for this for a few hundred dollars, and your bicycle makes an effective solo-friendly device for going around your neighborhood.

    I recently discovered indoor rock climbing. It's geek-friendly in the sense that you don't need to be an all-star athlete, just a good problem solver. Most indoor climbing gyms have climbs suitable for all levels of skill. I've found this to be a great work-out, and it's not boring, since there's a strong mental component to a climb. As a bonus, you improve balance and flexibility in addition to strength. I consider this to be a "gateway workout"; once you've established your physical limits, it's possible you'll want to start working out properly to get the strength or stamina needed to finish that one really hard climbing route, and if your climbing gym is fully-featured, you'll have access to everything you need to do that. Lastly, climbing requires a partner, so you're sort of forced into a buddy system. Find someone and give it a try. Any climbing gym should be welcoming to newbies, and there's virtually no barrier to entry.

  51. Crossfit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I crossfit 3 days a week through our local Austin Gym in the morning before work. Of course when I'm on call I have to turn the mobile up to max to hear it during the workout and sometimes I get pretty sleepy later in the day depending on how hard I workout, but over all crossfit has really helped me balance the relatively sedentary lifestyle computer work brings.

  52. Treadmill + Netflix by DoofusOfDeath · · Score: 1

    I've done jogging, which can be pretty encouraging because it gives you good-looking muscle tone as well as weight loss. But as one gets older, jogging typically gets more painful. Also, bad weather (including winter) can derail you from a jogging routine, and make you get off the wagon.

    I find that until you run out of good content, Netflix + a home treadmill is a pretty good combination. I found that walking 8 miles/day takes about 2 hours and burns one pound of fat. 4 miles/day is still pretty good, and unless you eat like a glutton, should do great.

    There's also the walkstation, which might be an awesome solution if you can put it in your workspace.

    1. Re:Treadmill + Netflix by SpottedKuh · · Score: 1

      I've found a similar solution that works wonders for me. I have an elliptical (a treadmill would work equally well, but my knees prefer the elliptical) set up in front of a wall-mounted TV with a cable box and a DVD player.

      I love watching CFL football, so I'll run for at least one quarter of each game I watch (HD cheerleaders!). It lasts, give or take, 50 minutes if you do it during a 2nd or 4th quarter. That alone makes a good workout.

      The DVD player is useful for weekday mornings. I buy TV series on DVD that I want to watch (either for the first time or for nostalgia). One-hour-long shows amount to about a 42 minute workout. Shows like 24 are great to get you moving (good action). Shows like Battlestar Galactica are similar, and have better geek cred :)

      This rig (flat panel TV, elliptical, cable box, DVD player) costs quite a bit to set up, but I certainly found that it motivates me to get up 45 minutes earlier each weekday morning to work out (what happens to Jack Bauer next...?). If you're the kind of person who would be motivated to watch shows while working out, I highly recommend it.

      If you do go for this rig, buy a high-quality elliptical. More money up front, but I cannot stress how much of a difference to the quality of your workout it makes. Anything made by Precor is excellent (the movement is so much smoother than other brands -- your knees will thank you a million times over for spending the little extra).

    2. Re:Treadmill + Netflix by swb · · Score: 1

      Consumer Reports gave a "best buy" rating to the NordicTrak AudioStrider 990, which is $999 at Sears, as opposed to the $2000-3000 charged for the "pro" ellipticals.

      I bought one and I've been pretty impressed. A neighbor has a $2k model, and I don't notice a difference other than I have more features than she does (movable arms, power incline, built-in fan and a so-so set of speakers for an iPod, custom programs, and a variety of other programs, and a heart-rate monitor). It takes SD cards which can do pre-programmed workouts based on your progress, although I'm told the cards "expire" (or self-destruct, more correctly) and can't be re-started. There should be a way to clone them, but I've never bothered.

      I've used it on average 6 days per week since I bought in February and the only problem I had with it was the arms coming loose (blue Loc-tite and tightening the bolts) and the incline rollers attached to the pedals had a bearing seize, which was replaced under warranty. The heart rate monitor isn't accurate and sometimes doesn't even respond.

      As for the exercise quality, I was a totally out of shape slob when I started and level 5 for 2 minutes would about kill me. Now I do level 8 for about 45 minutes and get a nice glisten of sweat and get my heart rate to about 145. I *feel* firmer and in better shape, but I don't necessarily look it (hey, I'm 41, 6'2 and 235 and had a l-o-n-g row to hoe). My workout now is 45 minutes one day, 30 minutes the next, and then a light weight workout on the off day, lather, rinse, repeat.

      I would strongly recommend anyone to get a decent heart rate monitor. I found myself working way too hard (it felt good, but was somewhat counter-productive) when I got one (cheap Polar chest/wrist model). They say that the optimal weight loss benefit comes with long-duration relatively low heart-rate exercise, although anyone new to it will probably need to just stay out of the red zone and not worry about heart rate too much until they get into better shape.

      As for entertainment, I tried watching TV/DVDs but just couldn't pay attention to them. I do my workout pretty early (5 AM), so just zoning out to the iPod works well for me. The "high" from working out plus the music is enough for me, although at times 45 minutes gets to be a tad long.

  53. weight vest. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I wear a (light! they're easy to overdo!) weight vest, ankle and wrist weights and have an elliptical cross trainer (get a pricey magnetic resistance one if you can afford it - mine isn't and grinds noticeably, which is annoying, but no more than riding a bicycle). I do a sort of "cross training in simulated heavy gravity" thing using them all at once, it's sort of between aerobics and weights I guess. Doesn't leave hands free, so can only passively listen/watch stuff, but that's okay given "podcasts" and such nowadays (though they're always annoyingly slow compared to my reading speed. Maybe I should rig up a "page turn" button and a screen).

    1. Re:weight vest. by try_anything · · Score: 1

      I love my weight vest. I use it to add twenty to thirty pounds (doesn't sound like much, does it?) for pushups, pullups, burpees, kettlebell work, lunges, etc. I love it for two reasons:

      First, it gives me more variety for pushups and an occasional insane challenge for pullups.

      Second, my shoulders and wrists are always the first link to give out when I'm doing kettlebells, and my lower body and core are more important for performance in my sport of choice, soccer. The weight vest lets me work my core, hips, and legs beyond the limits of my wussy upper body.

  54. Dance Dance Revolution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I used to be so addicted to Dance Dance Revolution. It's a lot of fun and you can do it indoors.

    1. Re:Dance Dance Revolution by Iceman_B · · Score: 1

      Dance Dance Revolution is something I can attest to. Being from DDRNL and all. It's a great game, unless you hate the music, please stick with Guitar....something. Whden you DO get into DDR, keep playing over and over until you reach what's currently still graded as 10 footers. Difficulty scale will soon change. Once you reach the highest levels, it'll work as a very intensive cardio. Oh, it trains your sense of rhythm as well.

    2. Re:Dance Dance Revolution by dubl-u · · Score: 1

      I second this. It's especially good if you have to travel a lot. You can get a roll-up dance mat, put DDR or the open-source StepMania on your laptop, and then just do 20 minutes of DDR in the morning at your hotel.

  55. Get Wii Fit... by NoobixCube · · Score: 1

    Then, at least, you know you're supposed to look stupid doing it :P

    --
    Admit it. You post strawman arguments as AC so you get modded Insightful for refuting them, rather than Troll
  56. Left foot braking by mobby_6kl · · Score: 5, Funny

    This way my left leg/foot gets more exercise when driving an automatic, otherwise a heavy clutch does the trick.

    1. Re:Left foot braking by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Use condoms for masturbation - thereby increasing the energy spent due to longer time to bingo. You never thought of that one, did you.

  57. Normal "average joe" guy routine by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I think 500 situps, 250 pushups, some freestyle swimming and maybe hitting the gym for some weight lifting should fit the bill. You could skip the freestyle swim and go running. If not comfortable with this just divide down to what you determine to be a reasonable number.

    1. Re:Normal "average joe" guy routine by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      500 situps, 250 pushups

      Shit, I get to 20 situps and the pain is unbearable, and that's after pushing myself when 10 used to make me curl up and cry like a little girl.

      I can't even imagine doing 500.

  58. Simple maths by Director+of+Acronyms · · Score: 1

    Getting rid of fat all boils down to this : burn more calories than you eat. I've been doing the situps + pushups thing, building some muscle mass helps lose fat, but you need to add some good carb burning exercise. Wii fit is OK for getting fit, you'll have a healthy heart and toned muscles but it will all be hidden under the layer of fat you haven't burned off. You need to break a good sweat to really burn some fat.

    Biking to work is good if you can do it, cos it's 10 workouts a week that you can't get lazy and miss :) Otherwise, get an exercise bike and do that at home watching TV or listening to podcasts or whatever. Real bike riding is better though, you can get lazy with a fake bike.

    You can also try to cut out carbs and replace them with protein or fibre - sugary fruit, drinks and snacks will get burned off before your body starts on stored fat. Make sure you are still eating healthy though, Atkins diet burns fat quick but it's hard on your whole nutritional intake...

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    Never look back at the carnage.
  59. my technique by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    aggressive _spanking_the_monkey_ does it for me!

  60. Swordfighting! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's the ultimate geek exercise, and completely worth getting out of the house for.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_European_martial_arts

    You can get into completely authentic Western Martial Arts Practice:
    http://www.aemma.org/

    You can get hyper-competitive and train to duel:
    http://www.novaspada.com/ (my school)
    http://www.academieduello.com/

    You can a ton of fun just about anywhere you live:
    http://www.sca.org/

    Or you can really go nuts:
    http://forum.rpg.net/forumdisplay.php?f=70

  61. My excercise routine by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    consists of trying to get first post on Slashdot, and running up and down the stairs that lead down to the basement.

  62. Hiking by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I don't have a steady exercise routine, but generally I spend a nice few hours, weekly, walking in the woods or up a nearby mountain (their heights are between 350-650m). I also walk/bike to work when the weather is okay and I almost never say no when someone invites me to join in on some outdoor sports or good old fashion manual labour.

  63. 60 pushups = 0 pushups by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Drop the situps and pushups; they're useless for your purposes. Especially since you can do them in sets of 60 and 30 respectively already.

    You seem to be mixing low body fat up with some attribute of your muscles, and you need to target your exercises to what you really want to deal with. If you lower your body fat, your muscles will appear toned, no matter how little muscle mass you actually have. If you want to be strong or to have big muscles, you need to pursue an entirely different exercise regimen.

    To lose fat, in addition to eating a healthy diet with frequent sufficient meals, you need to engage in aerobic exercise like running, biking, swimming, or the elliptical machine. This will get rid of that gut. If your diet is right and you aren't losing fat, you need to step up the exercise to something more intense. A moderate amount of cardio like this is also important for general health, but skinny folks looking to gain mass shouldn't do a lot of extra cardio.

    If you want big muscles, you can't be doing exercises for tens of repetitions. 8 or so is appropriate. If you *can* do that many and you want to bulk up, you need to add weight until you can't do more than ten.

    If you want to get strong, even more weight and even fewer reps (five-ish) is the way to go.

    But the one thing I cannot stress enough is that situps and pushups are ineffective cardio--you won't lose much weight at all that way--and doing sets of anywhere between 10 reps and infinite reps is a sign that you aren't working with enough resistance to make any progress with regard to strength or muscle mass.

    1. Re:60 pushups = 0 pushups by NerveGas · · Score: 1

      Actually, each pound of muscle you pack on burns about another 50 calories per day. Pack on ten pounds of muscle, and burning up to another 500 calories per day can *really* help cut the weight, if you combine it with other exercise.

      Few people that I've known have lost weight with either weights or cardio alone - but of those I know who have combined the two, every single one has lost considerable weight.

      --
      Oh, you're not stuck, you're just unable to let go of the onion rings.
    2. Re:60 pushups = 0 pushups by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Good point, I wasn't suggesting that weights shouldn't be combined with cardio. Only that looking toned has more to do with lowering fat than improving muscle and that doing situps and tens of pushups is not the way to lose weight *or* improve muscle.

  64. Just click and follow the directions by Animats · · Score: 1

    Just click here and follow the official U.S. Government approved directions.

  65. All Muscle Groups by nick_davison · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Unless you've got the luxury of a huge amount of space, the only way you're going to come close to exercising all groups is via free weights.

    Multi exercise machines don't even come close (more on that later). Treadmills/stationary bikes are great for burning calories which'll do most of your weight loss goals but you're asking about all muscle groups. BOSU balls, steps, jump ropes are all more limited in application. The other great full body exercise, swimming, isn't really an option in the privacy of your own home unless you're rich enough to have a good sized pool.

    The problem with free weights, and this comes from being married to a physical therapist who's also an ACE certified personal trainer, is: You're doing it wrong.

    Don't feel bad. Just about everyone does. From the Navy guys I've watched prepping for their PRTs by holding a dumbell in one position and flapping their elbows like chickens to those who swing weights and let the momentum carry them through the weak spots to those who only really focus on a few core groups.

    This is what a good personal trainer will do for you (and, yes, I hate the idea of paying the meathead ones too). A good one will slow you down and perfect your form: meaning you're actually building the weak points not just swinging past them. A good one will start you on machines (really good for isolating the exact form you need but lousy at exercising all of the supporting groups) and then slowly move you over to free weights (really good at exercising a lot of supporting groups, lousy at teaching you good form). A good one will also teach you a whole range of exercises so you're not just bulking your biceps with no work on your triceps, strengthening abs without matching your lats, working on your upper body with no attention to your chicken legs (yes, you, 95% of guys in gyms).

    Look at it this way...

    How good of a coder would you be if you never learned from other people's code and never had anyone review yours? Sure, you might be a prodigy and do some cool trick most people have never thought of. More likely, you'll write messy, inefficient code that seems like it works while leaving memory leaks everywhere.

    In the same way, you might manage to learn everything about lifting from message boards and videos. More likely, you'll get a fair amount right but still be doing a few gastly things that it never occurs to you they're wrong.

    This is why we suck it up, venture in to a gym, find a good trainer (being willing to fire the bad ones until we get that one we vibe with), and learn the technique first... so we can then get it right in our splendid isolation.

    1. Re:All Muscle Groups by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My current strategy:

      I bought the P90x DVD series and ripped the videos using Handbrake to an iPod Touch. I joined a 24 hour gym and I exercise late at night when no one is there but the staff.

      I wear the iPod on an arm band, which only gets in the way for a few exercises; but the pacing is there, the instruction, and the video as a reference to see the proper form.

    2. Re:All Muscle Groups by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There is plenty of good, quality literature on the web about correct lifting. The question is, will you heed it?

      The answer is right before you in the gym. Most of these people KNOW that their quarter rep benchpresses with weights they could never handle full range is not right. They choose to ignore this advice in favour of vanity.

      These people know that smith machine squats for an eighth of a rep leaning back against the bar for leverage is wrong. They choose to not do it.

      Every gym workout I have I do the right thing and I see them watching me, doing the same thing wrong. Sometimes it's obvious that how I am doing has spurned some sense of contemplation - as they generally experiment with doing it right, discover they are going to have to drop the weight and quit that quick smart.

      Most of the bad habits in a gym are purposeful slackness, not lack of education. So in a way, these people deserve to be assraped for PT fees. That being said, ANYBODY with sentience can find the right information easily.

    3. Re:All Muscle Groups by evil_aar0n · · Score: 1

      For all muscle groups, simultaneously, and cardio as well, you can't beat wrestling. Seriously. I'm rather lucky that my son is now big enough to give me a run for my money, because it's easily the best overall workout I get. I do weights; I run, cycle and swim, and I enjoy them all. But I have more fun, and the commraderie of going at each other, almost full speed, is heads and shoulders above the other activities.

      Of course, that's all well and good, but it's tough to find a mat and a good partner. If you're adventurous, there might be MMA clubs in the area. I don't really go for that - I'm not out to injure anyone - but they'd probably have mats and people with whom you can roll around. Oh, and trainers, too. That helps.

      In fact, I don't know why there aren't more adult wrestling clubs. Yeah, some guys are dicks about it - bullies who never grew up - but most guys into wrestling are actually pretty cool. There just aren't that many that are regularly into it.

      --
      Truth, Justice. Or the American Way.
    4. Re:All Muscle Groups by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You can exercise all your muscle groups without free weights. Burpees are a good start. Its what guys in prison do. Between those, jumping rope, push ups, pull ups, sit ups you can hit every muscle in your body. The key is variation, try different grips and positions. Push ups with your hands close together target your triceps, the wider your hands the more chest you use. Hands facing inward pull ups, target your biceps. There are plenty of exercises to do at home, and you can find them online.

    5. Re:All Muscle Groups by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This. Slashdotters don't know fitness, and the mods are no better if the posts marked "informative" are any indication.

      http://www.stumptuous.com/cms/index.php

      That's the first place you should be. It says "women's training," but almost all of it applies equally to men, experienced or not. It'll give you a grounding in lifting theory, proper nutrition, and some of the more common gym mistakes. If you ever decide to join to a gym, you'll want someone to show you the correct form for freeweight and cable exercises so you don't dodder yourself into a pulled muscle, impingement, imbalance, asymmetry, or any of a dozen maladies that befall novice lifters.

      To more directly answer your question, you can get a decent upper-body workout at home. Legs, not so much. Not without additional weights, though lunges and calf-raises are a start.

      Pushups are the default shoulder/chest/tricep movement. The height of your legs and the position of your hands and elbows dictate the particular muscle groups involved. Elbows in, hands low, feet low, and it's mostly shoulders and lower chest. Elbows out, hands higher, feet elevated, and it's mostly upper chest. With hands together and elbows out, triceps are more heavily implicated. Changing the positions, sets (3-8), reps (8-25), and tempo (0.5-5s lowering) will provide all the variation you need.

      Pullups are the standard movement for lats (latissimus dorsi; Google it) and biceps. If you can't do any, practice lowering yourself for 5 seconds at a clip. If you don't have porch stairs or some equivalently sturdy implement to hang from, buy a bar that'll wedge in a doorframe. They're cheap and effective. Before your workouts, pick a number between 20 and 40. Do that many (or lower yourself that many times), no matter how many sets it takes. Raise the number as you become stronger.

      Crunches are the basic ab movement. Situps will work your hip flexors as well. If you can do more than 20 of these untrained, you're probably doing them wrong. Practice flexing your abs at the top of the movement. Tempos, like all these movements, should be something like 0.5s second up, hold for a 0.5s, down for 2s, 0s pause. See here for notes on form:

      http://www.exrx.net/Lists/Directory.html

      To work the rear musculature of your shoulders and upper back, pick up a set of elastic resistance bands. You don't need many; three is plenty, two perfectly adequate. You're looking to do reverse flyes. They aren't a long-term substitute for proper rows, but they'll at least prevent you from getting the cro-magnon posture that's so prevalent among the curling and benching crowd.

      When you bore with all that, you should either buy yourself a gym membership, or a squat rack, a barbell, weights, and an adjustable bench. Alternately, assemble yourself a set of parallettes.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parallettes

      Gymnasts use them to keep in shape when they're away from the gym. I have a set. They're a fantastic workout, and they add a lot of variety and resistance to the sorts of exercises you can do on your own. Surely you wouldn't mind looking like a gymnast?

      http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee6/trickwire/2007%20August/RajBhavsar2.jpg

    6. Re:All Muscle Groups by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is why I like p90x. You use free weights and lots of push-ups and pull-ups. Also you get cardio and do strength building yoga. I'm sure I still do a few things wrong and like you said a personal trainer would really help, but I'm definitely in great shape now.

    7. Re:All Muscle Groups by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The U.S. Navy Physical Fitness Guide covers keeping in shape while in closed quarters/isolation (submarine). It has done wonders for me in my cubicleapartment. Bottom line? Exercise + proper diet.. chicken legs or not = a buff coder!

    8. Re:All Muscle Groups by gregbot9000 · · Score: 1

      I'd love to be able to afford a trainer. But the internet is cheap. So maybe it took me three months to figure out how to properly do a squat. If i combined all hat time together and worked a few extra hours it still wouldn't pay for a trainer.

    9. Re:All Muscle Groups by fastest+fascist · · Score: 1

      I recommend http://www.exrx.net/ as a decent source of exercise information, especially for weight training. Under "exercise instruction" you'll find workout templates.

      Personally I have a 3-day split gym workout (meaning the muscle groups are split over three training sessions, allowing adequate rest) and I only do two sets per exercise: one warmup set of 12 repetitions at 50% target weight, which is really just to get a feel for the exercise and one set of 8-12 reps (or until failure) at target weight. ("target weight" being a weight I can lift for 8-12 repetitions, and if I do 12 or more, I increase the weight by 5-10% the next time.)

      The main benefit of doing so few sets is it keeps the time you need to spend at the gym low. It seems people who have routines that have them spending more than an hour at a time lifting tend to lose motivation. On the other hand, doing only one "real" set per exercise, you need to really push yourself to do the very maximum you can each time to get the full benefits of your work.

      Ultimately, it boils down to finding something you enjoy. I go to the gym with a friend. If I went alone - and I have - I'd be much more likely to just blow it off and not go at all. (the "ah, I have so much stuff I want to do" syndrome.) Probably, it's best to find several things you like. You'll need cardio exercise to really burn calories - muscle training will help with body composition and raising your metabolism, but can't replace cardio. Try riding a bike, in-line skating, running, walking, swimming... Whatever you like. Then vary what you do - any given type of exercise will train your body in ways the others won't, and you won't get bored as easily if you have some variety in your routines.

      Whatever you do, if you want to see progress, keep pushing yourself. Your fitness improves as your body adapts itself to the level of physical strain you're putting on yourself. For best results, you need to make sure to keep giving your body the signal to keep improving by not getting stuck at running 2 kilometres in 10 minutes, or doing 12 reps of bench presses with 60 kilos of weight. Run further, or faster (or both!) and lift more than you have before. Your body will improve as you test your limits and break them. Just be aware of what those limits are and don't break yourself in the process. Start slow, be persistent.

    10. Re:All Muscle Groups by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As someone that has exercised with a personal trainer, once a week for months on end (and later without), there is a huge difference to working with a trainer to by yourself. And I cannot recommend anyone doing it without first.

      First off, trainers will teach you how to do weight based exercises *correctly*. This may involve getting your posture right or the angle of your knees, etc. If you do exercises _wrong_ then you can easily do damage.

      Next, trainers will push you to the limit in a way that you can't. They'll get you to do one more pushup or use slighty heavier weights than you will yourself.

      They'll also make sure that you work all of your muscle groups correctly and in an order that is of most benefit.

      Unless you're a professional, do not expect to be able to just pickup some weights or buy a machine or go to a gym and "tone up."

    11. Re:All Muscle Groups by Strake · · Score: 1

      I used to be fat, with very little muscle. Losing the fat was simple - I rode my bicycle for at least one hour every day, and cut back on my food intake. As for gaining muscle mass, I never had a personal trainer, but by doing weight training exercizes gleaned from various web sites, I managed to beef up considerably - not to body builder levels, of course, but the difference is noticable. It is by no means necessary to go to a gym, as long as you mind your form and ensure that you are not "cheating".

      To lose fat, any sort of physical activity would do - cycling, walking, weight training, or whatever, as long as you can keep it up.

      As for weight training, the choice between free weights and machines can be as controversial as that between vi and emacs; I, however, would recommend free weights, as they are more versatile and more taxing on the muscles.

      One last thing: one of the most important aspects of getting in shape is the diet. I don't mean the diets that are advertised on magazine covers and the like, but I do mean that eating healthily is critical. Jolt may be a coder staple, but try coffee instead - less sugar. Avoid processed foods, and try to eat nutritious meals.

      Keep at it!

    12. Re:All Muscle Groups by FatherOfThree · · Score: 1

      If you must train at home and what I use on the road can be found at http://www.fitnessanywhere.com/ However, you are definitely doing it wrong. Get a membership to your local YMCA. Most people that go to the Y are like you. Mine has every possible piece of equipment and class that you could ask for. As stated above, most definitely get a certified trainer. I watched one guy at work go from one year to live, at way over 300 lbs; go down to 175 (he overshot). He now is off all meds and looks great. He gave me Arnold Schwarzenegger's book The Encyclopedia of Modern Bodybuilding. Another guy at work went from 1 pack a day and a few beers to now competing in bodybuilding contest and winning. We are all over fifty, look great, and put the younger kids in the office to shame. Looking good has a positive effect on the mind. I go to the Y to relieve stress - get divorced and you'll know what I mean. That's what got me in there. It takes twelve weeks to develop a habit and it's now part of my day. No time for TV anymore. Remember, you need to work on your body, spirit, and mind.

    13. Re:All Muscle Groups by pswnet · · Score: 1

      Agreed to parent. Free weight training with barbell is the best way for full body exercise. If you have enough space, consider to build a home gym. Start with full squat, then dead lift, over head press, bench press. Great site for learn how to exercise with free weight: www.stronglifts.com

    14. Re:All Muscle Groups by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      or, if you have a mirror ...

      http://exrx.net/Lists/Directory.html

    15. Re:All Muscle Groups by entmike · · Score: 1

      I totally agree most people (definitely myself as well) probably do not exercise the correct way. What people have to remember though is you can't overload a person with all of this when they are first starting to want to get back in shape or it just scares them off. Sure they might not be doing curls or bench presses to the ISO standard or whatever, but I think that comes later, after they have conditioned their minds back into WANTING to do all that. I just started back using a Bow-Flex with a friend 3 weeks ago that had been gathering dust in my apartment for years, and while I'm sure that I'm not doing everything correctly, as I get back into the swing of doing this, I'll gradually refine my routine. I might never do a 100% correct curl, but I can live with that.

    16. Re:All Muscle Groups by stewbacca · · Score: 1

      Unless you've got the luxury of a huge amount of space,

      With these 8 linux boxes, these 2 WinNT servers, these five routers, 8 CRT monitors, 16 keyboards and 42 mice, I'll NEVER find a place for all this exercise gear!

    17. Re:All Muscle Groups by dwheadon · · Score: 1

      Agreed. You need a trainer or a knowledgeable friend to teach you the basic lifts, especially the Olympic lifts (clean, snatch). It's very helpful to have a third person perspective for evaluating your form. But outside of learning the basics of form, each trainer is going to have their own routine which may or may not be well informed.

      I've been lifting for many years and have tried dozens of programs. I only recently came across this book on "power training". It is the most sensible approach to lifting that I have ever seen. It focuses on functional, performance-based lifting and works all the muscles in your body as well as doing wonders for your metabolism. Having access to a gym is obviously ideal, but the author shows how many of the lifts can be done at home with a minimal amount of equipment.

    18. Re:All Muscle Groups by NinjaNoel · · Score: 1

      I haven't seen anybody mention body weight exercises. If you can doing push-ups for five minutes flat, you increasing your muscle strength, and raising your heart rate. If you cant manage that many push-ups, there are a myriad of other versions of body weight exercises, and eventually you doing crazy one-armed versions of everything and the babes just wont leave you alone ! Also, they are free, and you need hardly any space to perform them, only will power.

    19. Re:All Muscle Groups by yarbo · · Score: 1

      In the book, Facts and Fallacies of Fitness, Mel Siff cited an experiment where people who were permitted to swing the weights while doing curls were injured less than people who performed them strictly and got stronger. (The book is at home, I'm at work)

      A good trainer won't put you on machines. They'll start you with body weight exercises and see how your form is. If you can't move correctly without resistance, you're not going to do well with added weight, be it from dumbbells, kettlebells, barbells, sand bags or machinse.

      A good trainer will figure out what your needs are. An olympic style weightlifter isn't going to care if his biceps are lacking behind his triceps. A person with anterior pelvic tilt shouldn't be balancing quad and hamstring exercises (they should be prioritizing hamstring exercises). Your abs and lats are not antagonists. In general you should be thinking of balancing movements, not muscles anyway. Horizontal pulling and pushing

      I have no certifications, but I did coach one of my ex girlfriends and she set 2 national records and 6 state records in powerlifting (USPF deadlift and bench press record for her weight class/age group) and have trained a few acrobats. I did not balance her biceps work and her triceps work. The biceps muscles perform only a minor stabilizing role in the bench press and a very minor role in the deadlift. For most people, the arm flexers don't need direct work.

      Machines can be far more dangerous than free weights. There's an excerpt in Supertraining (considered by many to be the bible of soviet style sports training) where they list dangers of common machines. It goes on for pages. In general, machines lock you into movement patterns that may not be optimal for you biomechanically. They frequently start you in the worst biomechanical position, prevent you from getting a prestretch (myotactic reflex) and don't offer much or any carry over to sports.

      Anyway, now for my advice. Find goals, I have not seen anyone do well in the gym who didn't have goals. The powerlifter had goals, I have goals, some of my acrobatic friends have goals. My family doesn't have goals, nor do my roommates, and they went to the gym a few times and gave it up. Your goals will dictate what sort of program you're doing. I can give some advice, but there's a limit to what I can tell you without seeing you.

      As for the main question, what do I do? I do 3-4 hours of weight training, mostly powerlifting with a bit of overhead work to help with my acrobatics. I also swing dance 3 or more nights a week. I do very little direct flexibility work, yet an acrobatic coach remarked I had some of the best shoulder flexibility he's seen (so much for the bench press limiting shoulder flexibility!) and I can do rock bottom overhead squats. I attribute this to proper exercise selection, the snatch and the overhead squat demand a lot of mobility in the ankles, hips, and shoulders. In fact, a lot of trainers use the overhead squat (with a broomstick) to assess new clients. I do a bit of acrobatics and tumbling, though when I was doing that 2-3 hours a week I cut back on my time in the weight room.

      For the record, I learned from videos, particularly the ones from Westside Barbell and from Elitefts.com . I now workout at a powerlifter friendly gym and they were surprised how good my form was. I have never had anyone check my form, I've never even video taped myself. I turn the squat racks away from the mirrors too!

    20. Re:All Muscle Groups by sam_vilain · · Score: 1

      So much effort and complexity! Just practice Tai Chi Chuan (see above comment)

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    21. Re:All Muscle Groups by sean4u · · Score: 1

      the only way you're going to come close to exercising all groups

      When my exercise buddies started making excuses (and I made them too), I had to think of something to replace the activity that had kept me athletic and out of the public eye: caving. I'm not recommending it to anyone, if it's your cup of tea, it has a way of finding you.

      What I replaced it with a few years ago was indoor climbing. There might be a few places near you. They're very variable, as are the customers, but I reckon climbing's hard to beat if you're looking for 'all muscle groups'.

      It costs next to nothing to take up. The funny shoes do make a lot of difference, but you can often rent them. You can start just a few centimetres off the floor with 'problems' - sequences of just a few moves you do over and over again for training. The good places have lots marked out or let the customers mark their own. Even the shoddy places, you'll find someone who'll point out a few of their favourites. You can do it alone or with friends, and it does focus your mind on getting fitter and not carrying any extra weight!

    22. Re:All Muscle Groups by try_anything · · Score: 1

      I second everything, especially Stumptuous. Mod this AC up!

  66. A mixture of good and wholesome things! by loose+electron · · Score: 1

    Lets see:

    A set of barbell weights in the office - launch a program and lift a weight or two while waiting for results.

    A set of roller blades in the back of the car ready for grabbing and going on a skate.

    Sex, with a friendly and willing partner, great cardio! :)

    Walks (briskly!) along the beach boardwalk.

    Biking.... (need to get more time for that)

    Floor exercises, crunches and push ups.

    Sometimes to the gym, for cardio on a treadmill or elliptic trainer.

    Trying to find time for tennis!

    If you enjoy doing it, then you are more likely to stick with it. I was a total blubberball who used to sit at a computer all the time until one day I realized that my inactivity was slowly killing me. Decided to get fit and stay that way.

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  67. aerobic keyboard by anwyn · · Score: 2, Funny

    If someone has not patented it already, I put the Idea of an aerobic keyboard and aerobic editor into the public domain! An aerobic keyboard's keys are huge, can be activated by arms an feet and require large leg and arm movements to press them. Such a keyboard will allow a geek to continue to edit while doing his exercises!

    Of course specialized editors will be used to take advantage of the aerobic keyboard. I can hardly wait till emacs is modified for the aerobic keyboard, but I expect some atheists will want to use vi.

    How do I publish this idea so no one else can patent it? Or is there prior art?

  68. Re:Tai Chi by Phrogman · · Score: 5, Informative

    Tai Chi is essentially a form of Kung Fu slowed down to maximize the exercise potential and lessen the strain on your body.

    Once you have learned the essential 108 movements (its all one long cycle that puts you back where you are started, but is learned as 108 or so individual moves), you have a routine that will exercise pretty much every muscle in your body, looks cool, and requires no equipment to perform in, any stretch of ground/grass/parkinglot with a roughly 15x15 ft area free would probably do.

    Its been very popular in China for centuries and obviously works quite well, given the number of old people you see doing it in droves there.

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  69. how I exercise by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm not sure I qualify, but I run distance, and occasionally bike and swim, and compete in triathlons (they're *really* fun). (And I do some core and strength stuff, but that is pretty much auxiliary to the 40-50 miles per week of running.)

    1. Re:How I exercise by renegadesx · · Score: 1

      What is this "exercise" thing I keep on hearing about?

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  70. Re:Masturbation by Bryansix · · Score: 1

    One word for you... sores

  71. My routine by Mad-cat · · Score: 1

    While I'm definitely a proud geek, my job is very physical in nature and I exercise many hours a week to stay in shape.

    I have a gym routine, which I will not cover here, and a home routine.

    For starters, determine your goal. Weight loss, cardiovascular health, and muscle tone are all distinct goals with different workout types to most effectively reach each area.

    A weight loss workout should focus on muscle extremities, core muscle groups, and long-term cardiovascular exercise. Light weights for the arms using a bicep curl is a good start. Doing sit-ups and sitting on an exercise ball while at your computer will provide good core muscle strength. Skipping rope or jumping jacks provide a cardiovascular and leg muscle workout. Try to go fifteen minutes at once in a slow, easy pace. You want to be sweating when done, but not out of breath.

    For cardiovascular health, skipping rope and jumping jacks should be done at a faster pace. You *want* to be out of breath when you're done, and keep increasing the speed and time worked out as much as your body can stand.

    For muscle tone, add a light protein shake or supplement to an after-workout snack. Work with heavier weights, and use them on pectoral muscles in addition to arms. Do push-ups as well as sit-ups. Try to get a chin-up bar and use it.

    As a former introvert (the mind and emotions *can* be trained, believe me!), I understand the reluctance to try a gym, and suggest that maybe you find a friend who will be a "work-out buddy" and act as a private trainer. It helps to have someone help keep count and encourage you not to cheat yourself out of a better workout.

    Aim for twenty minutes a day for your first couple weeks. Try to push it to 45 minutes by the end of the second month. Bravo on a choice to be healthy and fit!

  72. Rock climbing has dual benefits by theJavaMan · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Rock climbing/bouldering has dual benefits:
    1. It's a slow endurance/strength excercise
    2. It excercises your hands/wrists, which counteracts RSI

    Get a climbing partner/group and hit the closest climbing gym. Go easy at first, and remember that the legs should be doing most of the lifting. Go easy on the hands too, you don't want to sprain anything :) Any RSI from typing/office labour should go away, and you will become comfortable enough to start doing more exertive excercises such as weight lifting or cardio.

    1. Re:Rock climbing has dual benefits by Pebble · · Score: 1

      Another benefit of rock climbing is there's a challenge in that you always have harder climbs to try and it's not the same every week, It's more like a game or puzzle when you have to work out how to do the harder routes. So it doesn't seem like exercise. :)

  73. Weights & Running by gbickford · · Score: 1

    There's been some great suggestions already.

    I have a treadmill as I find running is the best aerobic workout for my body. I got mine off craigslist for $200 and it works really well for me especially during the winter months. This nut job took it a step further and integrated it into his workspace: http://lifehacker.com/software/contest/coolest-workspace-contest--the-treadputer-171537.php and this guy thinks he can make a business out of it: http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/2005-06-07-office-fit_x.htm

    Weights are just as important as running. You burn more calories just by having more muscle. Don't worry about how big they look just get them toned and stronger and they will burn calories while you're standing in line at the Taqueria.

    Riding bicycles is fun and if you're less than 5 miles to your office it may be feasible unless you live in Bangkok.

    Calisthenic exercises are easy to do in private and you get the benefit of aerobic and anaerobic at the same time.

    Softball is a good excuse to get outside and meet some overweight middle aged guys from the community. Just don't drink all the calories back on after the game.

    For me running and weights are the best combination to remain fit but any of the other things that you can do for fun will help out and let you keep eating whatever you want.

  74. Hip Hop dancing by funkdancer · · Score: 1

    Agree; I used to bike to work until I moved too far away from work... Now it's car to work, however have a gym nearby so try to go there 3-4 times per week in lunch breaks.

    Also Hip Hop dancing is a great way of exercising. Whilst the audience here might initially laugh at that, there are a number of great benefits:

    1) Improves memory and co-ordination; is great fun & challenging
    2) Improves lower back/core strength, thus making you better able to do all those hard hours in front of the computer. No joke, this messes with your back!
    3) Is a great way to meet people outside your normal day to day routine. If you are single you will probably notice that they also tend to slew towards the more attractive range of the scale. Even if you are not [check] there's always value in this :)

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    1. Re:Hip Hop dancing by Oktober+Sunset · · Score: 1

      Fuck that, try moshing for a real man's dance style. Far more energetic, plus piggy back wall of death is like 7000 times cooler than the worm.

      Plus rock chicks are waaaaay cooler than any girls you will meet a a lame RnB club.

  75. Why do you think geeks can't exercise? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm a programmer, but I exercise - running, biking, triathlons, etc. YMCA's are pretty friendly places even if you're intimidated by gyms. Seriously, get out and enjoy the world a bit..unless you really do fall within the stereotypical definition of "geek", in which case, why do you care, since geeks are stereotypically out of shape.

    1. Re:Why do you think geeks can't exercise? by 4D6963 · · Score: 1

      That's funny that so many people should think that geeks don't exercise because like half of the people I know at various gyms were CS college geeks, engineers, teachers, doctors, etc.. The other half were mostly construction workers and dope dealers (but that probably had to do with the city I lived in).

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  76. Run by niloroth · · Score: 1

    My preference is running. It's rather cheep to start, all you need are a good pair of running shoes. (But get a good pair, from a running store, fitted to your foot and stride type.) Other than that, you really only need a track or some roads. I hadn't run since high school, and now, 15 years later i am thinking about trying for a half marathon before the end of the year. I also love the fact that just about every weekend there is a 5k or 10k race near me, which not only helps to motivate, but also are usually created around some charity, so it is good karma as well to help raise money for a cause.

    If you want some guidance getting started, cool running has a great starter guide. Link

    I have also become a big fan on the Nike+ sport band, since i can check my distance and pace while i am running. I find that instant feedback about having run farther and or faster than my last run helps to motivate me during the run, and the ability to track my run history online helps motivate me between runs. I think that this ends up being one of the most important things about exercise, make sure you like it, because if you don't then you won't stick with it.

    My advice, get out and run. But short of that, just make sure your doing something. That is the really important bit.

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  77. Make Time, Forego Lazy Conveniences, Active Hobby by steve_thatguy · · Score: 1

    If you want it make time for it. As someone who spends a significant portion of my week trying to stay in shape, it's become a huge pet peeve of mine for people to complain about being out of shape or overweight and never do anything about it. The fact is that people will make time for what's important to them. If it's not important enough for you to take a half hour out of World of Warcraft, then just accept that it's not really that important to you and quit complaining about it. That's all for my soap box.

    I think everyone's touched pretty well on the fact that just doing away with conveniences can add a ton of exercise to your day--taking the stairs instead of the elevator, parking at the back of the parking lot instead of circling around to find a closer spot, walking when going between any two points that are acceptable walking distance (I usually think if it's less than a mile I should probably be walking it; it may be different depending on your circumstances) etc. If you make these things habitual they add up, and while they don't do much if you only do them once or twice every few months their cumulative effect when done as a natural routine is significant.

    If you're really worried about getting in awesome shape but don't like to work out, consider taking up an active hobby. My first suggestion would be a martial art. Brazilian jiu-jitsu and judo are both very physically active, burning as much as 900 calories an hour (compared to 300 for jogging and 600 for rowing). They're also great forms of self-defense, great ways to meet new people and make new friends, and they don't require you be a 20 year old athlete to make the moves work. If you prefer something like racquetball, that's fine as long. Just get a hobby that will help keep you in shape that you will actually enjoy doing.

  78. Walk by foxylad · · Score: 1

    Sounds like we're in the same situation - I've always been slim, but a couple of years ago started putting on fat around my waist.

    My solution has been talking a 45 minute walk up and down a local hill each day. Walking is the exercise we're designed for, low impact and can be sociable if you want. I think you need to be pushing yourself though - I take a stop watch to motivate me to try harder each day. My other tip is to do it first thing, before breakfast - you get most of the hard part (going up the hill) over with before you are properly awake.

    You also end up with a great start to the day - blood pumping, mind alert, and you've had time to plan your day and chew over problems without disruption. I've got back to a good weight, and seem to be sticking there, so it works.

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  79. Re:Masturbation by Nimey · · Score: 1

    More than that: bleeding.

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  80. My exercise routine... by FunWithKnives · · Score: 1

    If you live in the city, my best advice is to not drive anywhere within a ten-mile radius. Walk pretty much everywhere you go and over time you will start shedding the pounds. I was slightly overweight when I first moved here (5' 11" and around 180lbs). It has been slightly under a year now, and I am down to 158lbs. Granted I am also vegetarian and I count calories (it all boils down to calories in/calories out) and do about 50 crunches each morning, but walking wherever I go (including to buy groceries if you are a bachelor like me) has made a world of difference. Also, if you live in an apartment building with elevators, use the stairs. I do, and I've found that it is actually faster most of the time than sitting there wasting your time waiting.

    Most of all, whatever plan you choose, stick with it. The weight does not just come off a week or two after you begin. If you do it right, you should expect to see a pound or two drop every couple of weeks at most, and sometimes you will go a month without seeing a noticeable change. It takes patience, more than anything else, to lose the love handles.

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    1. Re:My exercise routine... by FunWithKnives · · Score: 1

      I hate to reply to my own post, but I forgot to mention something. Around the same time I began taking weight-loss and calories seriously, I also started drinking at least one cup of green tea per day. It does many good things like provide antioxidants, but it will also eventually raise your metabolism a bit, meaning you burn more calories even when sitting around doing nothing. Of course, walking everywhere the majority of the time and doing other forms of cardio will raise your metabolism much more, but I really think that the green tea gives me a bit of a metabolic boost. If anything, it perks me up at the beginning of the day and gets me going, so it is worth it either way, really.

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  81. Some folks recommend The Hacker's Diet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    John Walker has written about this: The Hacker's Diet.

  82. Seriously... by geogob · · Score: 1

    Does anyone read TFS these days?

    "Do any Slashdotters have a regular workout routine that can be performed in the privacy of the home to stave off those pounds?"

    Considering the question, I doubt hiking, running, biking to work, base jumping, etc. really qualify as applicable answers. But seriously... i have to ask... why would you want to limit your exercise to the privacy of your home? That I don't get.

    1. Re:Seriously... by Bloodhound+Alpha · · Score: 1

      Perhaps they read it, and wished to make the point that limiting yourself to the home is rather self defeating, as you did?

    2. Re:Seriously... by ianm.phil · · Score: 1

      www.yogamazing.com

      I do 'public workouts', but if the poster is looking for something private I love the the yogamazing podcast (available through iTunes or Miro).

      It's a brilliant 25 minute yoga routine that is new every week or two with an excellent instructor. Very good way to workout when you want, where you want and how much you want. Highly recommended.

  83. Jump rope by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    For progressively longer periods every day. When you can do 2,000 skips a day, you'll be on the way to getting in shape.

  84. Just get some exercise! by imagomer · · Score: 1

    I get 35-45 minutes of cardio per day via the inclined treadmill. It doesn't really matter how fast or how far, so long as I am breaking a sweat. Two or three times per week (depending on the schedule) I work out with weights. One day is upper body (Curls, flys, benchpress, etc), the second is lower body (squats, leg ext., leg curls, lunges, etc) and if I get a third, then I work the core (plank, inclined situps, crunches and so on). Alternatively, the P90X program is killer if you can spare an hour or two per day for your workout. It's the only exercise program that I have ever run across that actually EXCEEDS what it states. And it should go without saying that your diet should be somewhat better than jelly donuts and Red Bull...an no - glazed donuts are NOT better for you than jelly donuts.

  85. Heavy weights by OBeardedOne · · Score: 1

    If it's a concern for you then don't muck around, get into heavy weights and mix it up with some cardio like running or biking. Increased muscle mass will help you stop storing energy as fat while you're sitting around.

    I had your same problem and got into a regular weights/cardo routine and have managed major positive changes in 12 months. (That's right, it won't happen overnight) I work from home in a relatively small apartment too. I never thought I'd fit a weight bench in my place along with all the weights but I did, it was just a matter of convincing myself it needed doing. Tucking my small weight bench in beside my chest of draws and wardrobe is a work out in itself!

    If you've never done heavy weights before you might be worried about getting TOO big and looking like a steroid abusing jock. Don't worry, it'll never happen! (unless you do get into the roids) It will take a lot of dedication to make much a noticeable difference to your physique but it will help you keep fit and keep your weight down. Give it a go, you can do it from home and it will make you feel much better about yourself both physically and mentally

    For advice on routines and general body building advice I recommend t-nation.com and bodybuilding.com (Don't let the muscle head nature of these sites put you off, they have some very good advice on general workouts suitable for beginners). Good luck!

  86. I'm a geek but I get out by Bryansix · · Score: 1

    Really if you don't want to get out you can always use an elliptical machine and maybe a bowflex for strength training in your home but eventually you just need to get outside.

    Endurance sports are a great way to stay in shape. www.amateurendurance.com covers all kinds of sports from Triathlons to Marathons and 5k runs to Century rides and Ultra-marathons. It's really not that hard to get started. There are literally events happening every weekend. You can train on your elliptical at home if you want and just participate in events on the weekend. You'll be surprised at the wide range of people who participate in these events. You have overweight teens to 75 year old women and everything in between. Trust me, just finishing an event will get you cheers and that's a good motivator to keep doing it.

  87. Get out there. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    To be perfectly honest, there's not much motivation -- at least for the long term -- if you try doing it all at home. I am very much an introvert, but I joined a gym. Seriously, if you find one hear home or work, or if you drive, on your way home, it's easy to take the time to go. And don't worry about appearances. Every type of person goes to the gym. I see very large people and very thin people. I see guys who don't lift weights, and only use the aerobic machines. I see women who bench more than I weigh. Just go, find what you can handle, find out the right way to do some things, and either try for maintenance or improvement. There's really no pressure.

  88. Agreed by deepgrey · · Score: 2, Insightful

    But maybe you should try to exercise outside a bit. I would count myself as an introvert, and I run and bike regularly. If you make time to get out early in the morning or go out in the country, you can ride or run when or where most people aren't out. Maybe instead of trying to avoid exercising outside, you should just go ahead and try it. You may find that it isn't as uncomfortable a situation as you think.

    1. Re:Agreed by tthomas48 · · Score: 1

      Exactly and with the new research that lack of vitamin D seems to be related to increased incidence of cancer, getting outside to exercise in the early morning or late in the day looks like it may be better for you than running on a treadmill.

    2. Re:Agreed by legoman666 · · Score: 1
      Indeed. I decided I liked riding my bicycle to class enough that I bought a decent road bike. At first I said to myself "there's no way in hell that anyone is going to catch me in skin tight clothes." Now I own 3 cycling jerseys and 3 pairs of cycling shorts. And they're all skin tight.

      I even joined my university's cycling team. We ride 3-4 times a week. ~60 miles Sunday, ~35 miles Tuesday, ~35 miles Wednesday. I look forward to it every time and I usually go riding Friday also.

      I'm 145lbs @ 5'9" which isn't fat I suppose, but I won't be happy until my stomach is flat. Eating less helps.

  89. duh! DANCE DANCE REVOLUTION by ClioCJS · · Score: 1

    All the fun of Guitar Hero, but it was something you could do and still be Geeky before Guitar Hero became "cool". And it actually works your ass off. This is a dumb question. That is the only answer. The rest of you can go to hell.

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    1. Re:duh! DANCE DANCE REVOLUTION by baka_toroi · · Score: 1

      Help me out with this, pal. I used to go a lot to the arcades and play DDR and Pump it up (a Korean knock-off). Problem is, I grew older, there's not an arcade near home/work and, frankly, I don't want to stand in line to work out a couple of minutes. So I tried some of those DDR "mats", but they are all slippery and can't compare with the sturdiness of the arcade version So, is there a bulky, official DDR mat? Mind you, I don't live in the states, so that could (will) be a problem. BTW, the only console I have is a Wii. It's modchipped, so I can get a Japanese version, if there is one.

    2. Re:duh! DANCE DANCE REVOLUTION by Cybrex · · Score: 1

      Spending a little more to get a better mat is the best investment you can make. I use a RedOctane Ignition 2.0 mat with hard foam inserts and it's fantastic. If I'd started out with one of the crappy fold up mats then I likely would've lost interest in DDR after a couple of hours, but I've owned the same mat for about 2 years now and still use it regularly. I wear socks when I play and can feel the switches well enough to never have to look down to stay centered.

      I don't know what selection of DDR mats is available for the Wii, but any mat that is compatible with the GameCube will work just fine. Even the "made for Wii" mats plug into the GC ports on the side.

      Have fun!

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  90. Calisthenics, Bowflex, Free Weights by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I play this every morning to get me awake and in the mood. Then after the calisthenics, I Bowflex and do free weights (bench press, squats, dead lift) for about 20 minutes three times a week. I do stick my nose outside every once in a while for a slow jog or fast walk, so you might want to invest in a treadmill if that hill's too steep to overcome.

  91. p90x by bilbo909 · · Score: 1

    p90x works for me!

    1. Re:p90x by transporter_ii · · Score: 1

      I have never done Power 90 X, but I did the original power 90. It was excellent.

      My only complaint with the original Power 90, was that part I & part II were almost identical, they just added more reps to the second part.

      I dropped about 50 pounds while doing the original (I was on a hard core diet, as well), and I know someone doing the "X" and he is looking fairly ripped.

      Also for a good workout, the very original Step Reebok, with Gin Miller, is a hell of a workout.

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  92. I literally hate exercise by slaker · · Score: 1

    See subject.
    Between allergies to pollens and dust, having zero interest in being around other people (particularly in a setting like a gym), and having never found even the least joy in any kind of physical activity, I have to say that there are many kinds of invasive surgeries that I would rather undergo without benefit of anesthesia rather than undertake an exercise plan.

    I suspect I'm not the only person on Slashdot with that attitude.

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    1. Re:I literally hate exercise by Shados · · Score: 1

      Meh, allergies to pollens (not sure about dust) are something only masochists suffer with in the long term. Desensitization treatments are cheap as hell (especially when compared with mainstream allergy meds), and work amazingly well.

    2. Re:I literally hate exercise by mobby_6kl · · Score: 2, Funny

      I'm surprised it took this long for someone to admit this. Most likely it's just some form of self-selection bias, but damn it makes slashdot look like the healthiest community on the net.

      The only sports I ever enjoyed are ones you might find in a pub, mainly pool and darts (it's a sport, ok? Even the UK recognizes that). At most, an occasional game of football with my high school friends, although even that gets old soon. But fuck me with a spiked running shoe if I have to run further than the line of sight, or risk killing myself while pedaling the horrid invention that is the bicycle. The gym, of course, ranks somewhere below the dentist's office in terms of places I'd like to be.

      Maybe I should buy myself a 70s Alfa Romeo. Certainly the motivation to push it to a garage as quickly as possible will be there.

    3. Re:I literally hate exercise by russotto · · Score: 1

      1) For allergies, Zyrtec. Non-prescription, non-drowsy, and it actually works. For me, anyway, your mileage may vary. Yeah, exercise sucks when you can't breathe.

      2) For not being around people, bicycling. Sure, you're outside, but you might as well be alone, unless you specifically seek out a group ride. Inline skating works too, if you have a place to do it (skating solo on the road is likely a bad idea). Jogging and running also work, provided you use headphones, but they're more likely to be painful.

      3) If after eliminating those factors you don't find any joy in physical activity, then invest in a nice comfy couch. There's no point in exercise for exercise's sake.

  93. Try running by friedman101 · · Score: 1

    Pick a route about twice as far as you can run and keep at it every day until you can do it. Add a mile every couple months until you're happy with where you are. You can run anywhere (good for consultants) and you'll find it makes you better at all sports (even if im not the most skilled bball player i can sure as hell run them ragged)

  94. Russian Kettlebells by n4pcq · · Score: 2, Informative

    Russian kettlebells are really great! I had never been physically active, yet at 50 I got a trainer who taught me how to use them. Unlike regular weightlifting, kettlebells (like a cannon ball, only with a handle) increase your strength AND your balance and flexibility. Highly recommended.

    1. Re:Russian Kettlebells by gregbot9000 · · Score: 1

      I can't figure for the life of me what kettlebells do that dumbbells don't. I get that the exercises are different, but why couldn't you hold a dumbbell instead?

    2. Re:Russian Kettlebells by mdm-adph · · Score: 1

      Well, you could, but then you're not doing something "exotic." Now excuse me while I go practice with my Tai Chi sword in my authentic Indian loincloth.

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    3. Re:Russian Kettlebells by Zekasu · · Score: 1

      Actually, I would assume the "ball" has a different center of gravity, or something like that, requiring more balance. That's only a guess, though.

  95. Exercise in front of people anyway by rickward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    So you're an introvert. Big deal! Exercise in front of people anyway.

    Look, no one's going to make fun of you for going to the gym; in fact, they are more likely to make fun of someone who needs exercise and doesn't go to the gym.

    The gym isn't Counter-Strike. No one cares if you're an exercise n00b. In fact, in my experience if you screw up at the gym, someone who knows what they're doing will show you the proper way to exercise so you don't injure yourself.

    If you can afford it, and if you really care about your fitness and attractiveness, there is no reason not to go to the gym.

    1. Re:Exercise in front of people anyway by dubl-u · · Score: 2, Insightful

      So you're an introvert. Big deal! Exercise in front of people anyway.

      Yes, I too find it completely effective to dismiss stated the preferences and core personality characteristics of others rather than taking them seriously.

      Are you an extrovert who needs to spend time with people? Suck it up and just work from home.

      Have a speech impediment? Don't let that stop you from a career in broadcast journalism.

      Are you caucasian? Don't fall for that sun-block jazz. Just go out in the sun and you'll adapt. Tall? Sure, buy that Smart Car. Short? No, you won't look silly in that H2. Enjoy coding? Ignore that and get a sales job. Dyslexic? The career for you: librarian!

      The only kind of exercise program that people stick with is one that suits them, one that they enjoy. Introversion is not something that you shake off or get over; introverts find it draining to be around strangers, and will no matter how much they practice.

    2. Re:Exercise in front of people anyway by smellotron · · Score: 1

      While I can sympathize with introversion, I do want to point out that human beings are typically very social creatures. Thus, while most of the examples you mentioned were based on (absurdly) ignoring physical limitations, dealing with introversion is a psychological issue that is beneficial to address due to the other benefits it brings (specifically mates and allies). No one is telling the OP to get a career in sales, they're just suggesting that an introverted personality shouldn't cut someone off from existing in a public space.

    3. Re:Exercise in front of people anyway by init100 · · Score: 2, Informative

      This has been my experience too. Before I started, I remembered the physical education classes in school, especially the dreaded changing rooms where all the jocks would throw mean comments about the less physically fit, and thought that the gym would be the same. But I quickly found out that any such fears were completely unfounded. Everyone simply mind their own business. In addition, most customers at my gym are just regular guys, and not the jock/bodybuilder type.

    4. Re:Exercise in front of people anyway by rawshark · · Score: 1

      Mark Parent Up

      I had the same reservations about joining a gym-- that I was going to be laughed at by people in much better shape than me. Turns out most people in the gym wouldn't even notice you- they don't concentrate on anything but their workouts. And for me, spending money on the gym made me want to go, to get my money's worth.

    5. Re:Exercise in front of people anyway by Thelasko · · Score: 1

      I totally agree. Once you go to the gym you will realize that about half the people there are in the same situation you are.

      I also don't recommend getting a personal trainer. They usually only teach you exercises that require two people, so you have to hire them again to do those exercises. If you don't know how to use the machines (not free weights) they usually have instructions attached to the side. I suggest you read them.

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    6. Re:Exercise in front of people anyway by stewbacca · · Score: 1

      Well stated. Whenever I see a really fat guy at the gym, all I can think is "good for you buddy!". Those guys are totally motivating. I've even said as much to one guy, as I've noticed he's dropped quite a few pounds over the past 6 months. I hope my little words of encouragement help him stick to it.

    7. Re:Exercise in front of people anyway by dubl-u · · Score: 1

      I do want to point out that human beings are typically very social creatures.

      Compared with other animals, sure. Compared with each other, not always. You get a range, and this guy is toward one end.

      dealing with introversion is a psychological issue that is beneficial to address due to the other benefits it brings (specifically mates and allies)

      You're working here with the blank slate theory, the notion that the mind is infinitely plastic. It's not. An introvert may be able to learn to put up with the gym, in the same way they learn to put up with nosy parkers telling them that introversion is a psychological issue rather than a normal personality variation. But they may not learn to like it, and the last thing somebody trying to adopt an exercise program needs is having it be more challenging than it needs to be.

    8. Re:Exercise in front of people anyway by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is partially good advice, but it also ignores the stated problem. The key thing is finding the right gym. In my experience, the 24 hour fitness and Gold's gym varieties are not conducive to maintaining an exercise regimen. Too often, the people who visit the gym compulsively act disdainfully towards less experienced people using the equipment that they want to use...basically outwardly exhibiting the sentiment that they could be getting much more value out of a piece of equipment than you can. And unless you can get to that point where you feel compelled to visit the gym, you'll stop going because the exercises are pretty boring.

      But there are gyms that are different and offer atypical exercises that will keep you better engaged and will keep you away from the typical gym crowd. Of the two gyms I go to, though both have weights and cardio equipment, neither is focused on that type of exercise.

      At one gym I go to, the majority of the space is devoted to rock climbing. Rock climbing is a very cerebral exercise. It's not just about getting through it like cardio or weight lifting, it's often about figuring out how to use your body to get to the top. Bouldering (non-roped, short climbs that rarely go over 15 feet off the ground) even uses the term "problem" to describe climbs since getting to the top is as much about figuring out the answer to how to climb a problem as much as it is about having the physical strength to climb it. And since the top-rope routes and bouldering problems are frequently changed, the exercise changes frequently enough to make it interesting. At the other gym I go to, the focus is on martial arts (specifically those used in the UFC). And while that may sound intimidating, a lot of the beginning training is non-contact stuff that's both interesting and a great workout. I won't claim to know too much beyond the basics since I've just started going to this gym, but so far it's been very engaging.

      So, basically, my advice would be to find a gym that specializes in some form of exercise that is less mindless and gives you more of a chance to get good at something. Because as long as you treat exercise as a chore, it will be too easy to quit. But when you reach the point where it's actually fun, it becomes much easier to stick to it. For instance, I personally have a V6 bouldering problem that I haven't been able to get but I know that I can with some work (we call those projects). I've been thinking about it at work all day and I think I've figured out how to get past the part I couldn't do yesterday. So now I can't wait for work to end so that I can go back and see whether the solution I've worked out in my head actually works. Normally, today would be one of my off (non-workout) days. But I'm going to go anyway because I'm compelled to go mentally despite being compelled not to go physically. You just don't get that kind of motivation from gyms that only offer weights and cardio.

    9. Re:Exercise in front of people anyway by monkeyhouse · · Score: 1

      Speaking as an extrovert, I can honestly tell you that I am not looking at ANYONE when I am working out at the gym. I am there to work out, and get out. That's it. Although, maybe that has something to do with the time of day I go (early AM).

      I used to work out after work, and that was a whole different scene (it, in fact, WAS a "scene"). The "pick-up" crowd tends to show up after work, and makes it annoying when you're actually trying to exercise and not socialize.

      If you find you can't accommodate what you'd like to do (cardio, weights, whatever) at home, then I'd suggest hitting the gym in the morning. If you feel you need to add another level of distance from everyone else, then put on some headphones, even if you don't listen to them. Most people won't even give you a second glance, if they give you a first glance to begin with.

  96. I can tell you what not to do. by timmarhy · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Don't bother with gyms. their a waste of money for the good they do most people. don't buy gimic's you see on tv.

    the MOST effective exercise is the exercise you don't even know you are doing. park the car at the far end when you go to the shopping centre, walk to the corner store. these all add up.

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    1. Re:I can tell you what not to do. by The-Bus · · Score: 1

      Unless you're parking it 5 miles from your destination and you're sprinting in intervals to your shopping center, I don't see how this is even remotely adequate exercise.

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  97. 5BX by Atari400 · · Score: 1

    Have you considered the 5BX program that was developed for the Royal Canadian Air Force? You can download the PDF manuals from http://www.gettingfitagain.com/5bx.php - and it's only supposed to take 11 minutes a day. Usual disclaimer about consulting a doctor before starting with a new exercise plan of course.

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    1. Re:5BX by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Have you considered the 5BX program that was developed for the Royal Canadian Air Force? You can download the PDF manuals from http://www.gettingfitagain.com/5bx.php - and it's only supposed to take 11 minutes a day. Usual disclaimer about consulting a doctor before starting with a new exercise plan of course.

      Fuck Canada.

    2. Re:5BX by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Fuck Canada.

      Hey! Fuck you, buddy.

    3. Re:5BX by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Fuck Canada.

      Hey! Fuck you, buddy.

      I'm not your buddy, guy!

  98. Get fit yo by malkir · · Score: 1

    If you're going to be at all serious about toning up/getting in shape/exercising one of the most imporant things you need to look at is WHAT you eat. Diets that are high in fats and sugars are destined to be more difficult than a carb-rich, protein-rich, vitamin-rich diet. That means, instead of hotpockets for breakfast try to get a complete protein and some carbs, 3-4 scrambled eggs and some wheat toast with jam is a perfect breakfast.

    Both lunches and dinners could consist of something like chicken breast and brown rice, with some steamed broccoli.
    You can even go into subway and get a $5 footlong of chicken breast with all the veggies to get all your necessary nutrients.

    If you're trying to lose some weight, keep in mind that more muscle mass = more calories burnt. Try doing pushups, pullups, and situps (very important not to do 'goofy' situps, instead try to put your legs on something so your thighs are perpindicular to your body, stare at your belly button and try to 'roll' your shoulders off the ground WHILE exhaling, the inhale on your way back, make sure your arms are crossed on your chest NOT behind your head).

    Unfortunately a lot of the weight we put on in our later years is much more difficult to shed than when your younger, so if you're at all serious look at getting some kind of cardio, albeit running or jogging up some stairs for 30 minutes.

    So quick recap:
    1. Don't eat bullshit. (Notice I picked whole wheat bread over white bread, brown rice over white rice, etc).
    2. Diet should be 55% carbs, 30% protein, 15% fat. Keep track of what your eating, try to stay away from foods in which the calories from fats/sugars are over 45% (carbs/sugar & protien = 4cals per gram, fat = 9 cals per gram. (grams of sugarx4)(grams of fatx9)= total number of calories. Divide that number by the total number of calories in a serving to find your percentage.
    3. Exercise! Run, dance, jog, roll around, do anything to get your heart rate up. Your body will get used to the same exercise over and over again to try to mix it up.

    Sorry for the rant

  99. Hacker Diet? by bdcrazy · · Score: 5, Informative

    How come nobody has mentioned this one yet? I mean, come on! It has fitness tips as well as diet since you really need both to get the pounds off.

    Hacker Diet

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    1. Re:Hacker Diet? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      +1

  100. In addition to exercise... by WayneTheGoblin · · Score: 1

    I'd make sure you're getting enough Essential Fatty Acids.
    Flax seed oil (ALA, EPA, DHA) is an omega-3 fatty acid complex that will help reduce your inflammatory load.

    There is a good deal of evidence that taking Conjugated Linoleic Acids (CLA's -- specifically the Trans-10, Cis-12 or T10-C12 form) will actually help you lose weight. It does this by causing your preadipocytes to die (apoptose), before they can become fat cells. There is also good evidence that it helps keep fat cells from filling. And it probably (although the evidence isn't as solid) forces fat cells to empty.

    Either way, you need to also make sure you're getting antioxidants (resveratrol, selenium, etc...)

    Disclaimer: IANA Doctor (although I'm training to be one)

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  101. Right idea, wrong approach. by hangareighteen · · Score: 1, Informative

    Stop lifting weights. It will not necessarily burn fat. You need
    an aerobic workout. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aerobic_exercise

    Walk, jog or run if you can. Swim. Bicycle. Basically, get
    your heart rate up for at least 15 minutes at least once a day.

    And, as always, see a doctor or an accredited professional before
    you try anything new.

  102. As Geekily as Possible -- with the right equipment by GMFTatsujin · · Score: 2, Interesting

    What turned me on to regular, healthful exercise was to have the right gadget. I worked for an outfit that makes consumer-grade heart rate monitors, so I got to keep one for myself while I wrote out the documentation.

    I was very impressed with this gadget. It did wonders for getting me off my duff and tracking my exercise.

    Seriously. It's the toys, guys. Having a little bleeping widget on my wrist made a huge difference.

    So, even though I don't work for them any more, I'll totally shill for the Polar F11 HRM. It figured out an appropriate exercise schedule for me, it monitors the intensity of my workouts to keep me on target, and it tracks my progress over months. It's geared toward cardio, so it really excels at aerobic stuff like cross-country simulators and standing bikes. The pounds just melt away, though, and I'm toning up nicely.

    If you're interested in getting one, I recommend going to your local gym to see if they have a partnership with Polar, because the personal trainers there will help you learn how to use the thing to maximum effectiveness. The thing is pretty simple to use anyway, though.

    Okay. Done.

  103. Prison Workout by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I guarantee if you do a "prison workout" you will get the results you want.
    http://video.google.com/videosearch?hl=en&q=prison+workout&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=X&oi=video_result_group&resnum=4&ct=title#

  104. Two different issues IMO by fsmunoz · · Score: 1

    Right, let me first address your direct question:

    To lose body-fat and gain muscle mass you will most likely need to cycle between the two objectives; food is of paramount importance here, without going into much detail to gain muscle you need to actually (image that) eat more than you waste, and to lose fat the opposite. The amount and type of exercise you do, plus your diet, is what determines if you gain a lot of muscle and just a bit of fat or the opposite.

    As for exercise routines, I would recommend heading to bodybuilding.com. Yes, I know, sounds like something you don't want to do but these guys tend to be the ones who actually know about these stuff, more so than the "fitness" crowd. Even if your objective is "merely" to become more agile, with less fat and "harder" and not a gigantic mammal with muscles coming out of your ears that site has lots of routines and explanations; think of them as the Debian or BSD crowd: even when people just want a pretty desktop they are generally the crowd who has the answer to the questions.

    Just to complement, that site as lots of routines to do without any fancy equipment. You might invest in some dumbbells though, there is little you can't do with dumbbells, a bench and good posture.

    This brings me to the second part of my answer, which is that is generally easier and better to pay membership in a gym, regardless of initial feelings of inadequacy. They have the right equipment, other facilities that are nice to have (think sauna) and it's not like they are a social club where you actually have to talk with people. You could even by surprised to start talking with people from very different walks of life and getting along just fine. There is a self-promoted ghetto thing in the "ahh we're geeks and nobody understands us" mantra.

    On top of this I know that I'm personally much more prone to actually do stuff in the gym than at home, maybe because I'm paying for it. Regardless of motivation I do think it is something you should consider, even if you don't care for the classes (I mostly don't) the weight-lifting equipment alone is important for a good routine.

    HTH.

    1. Re:Two different issues IMO by entrigant · · Score: 1

      "to gain muscle you need to actually (image that) eat more than you waste"

      I managed to do both for a while. To gain muscle mass your body only needs the resources to repair it. More specifically, it needs protein, and lots of it. What it can't acquire from ingested protein it will synthesize if it can. In the meantime your body will dig into its fat stores for energy if it needs it.

  105. A workout routine is CLUTCH by americamatrix · · Score: 0
    I saw a video on youtube one day of a '300' workout - supposedly someone's interpretation of the workouts the actors did for the movie.

    Anyways, I followed the link over to a site called, iwantsixpackabs.com.

    I watched a few of the workout videos and decided I had nothing to loose. I just recently finished the 16 workout program. I started at 179 lbs, and am now at 155 lbs. There was a lot of pain and agony along the way, but getting into a routine and keeping it fun was VERY helpful.

    I changed my diet - cut soda / alcohol / high sugar drinks out - except my morning coffee :) - No junk food in between meals - I would drink water if I got hungry. I made sure to eat breakfast EVERY day (2 scrambled eggs).

    Here's a link to Arnel's workout videos: http://www.iwantsixpackabs.com/my_video_journal.html

    I had to get myself motivated and mentally ready - as I made bets with my friends that I would finish the program. The biggest motivator was people telling you - oh you can't do it, or you won't finish - but when you do...ahh your all *smiles* :)

    Good luck!

  106. What I did to drop from 230 to 170 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Is went to the gym, and got addicted to cardio. My machine of choice? The elliptical.

    You can do as many pushups and situps as you want, but unless you get a healthy dose of cardio into your workout somehow you will not be getting rid of that extra padding around the waist. While you may have a six-pack, you'll have a big-mac sitting on top and hiding it all.

    I tend to prefer the gym - it's really not that bad, especially once you get over the 1st-time jitters. That being said, you can pick up an Elliptical from a sporting goods store and be good to go.

    You'll need to do at least 30-40 mins of cardio 3 times a week, and you should be working yourself so hard that you have completely sweated through your clothes.

    Also, start increasing the number of sit ups you are doing, go from 30 a night, to 2 sets of 30 a night, to 3 sets of 30 a night - every time you can start doing the last set easily, add on another set, or start adding more reps to each set.

    Do the same with your pushups. However, being an IT guy - you're probably hunched over a desk all day, and doing some work on your back would be a good idea. Pick up some free weights and learn how to do some exercises that target your back / shoulder muscles.

    If its an option - start walking, jogging or biking into work.

    Cut out soda and replace it with simply water. Stop snacking on junk food and replace it with fruit / apples.

    I was able to drop from 230 to 170 pounds pretty quickly doing the above - while I did it at the gym, with some investment in equipment at home, there is no reason you can't do the same.

  107. My light exercise regimen by Junior+J.+Junior+III · · Score: 1

    Bicycle
    Baoding balls (I think it'll prevent RSI/carpal tunnel)
    Walking (more exercise for the dog than for me)
    Light exercise with free weights

    At some point I want to get back into running again, but I never did have the discipline to keep with it on my own. I need a group or a partner to run with, and never can find anyone who wants to do it.

    I *love* the baoding balls. I just started them a short time ago on a whim, and I can't say enough about how good it feels to work my forearms with them.

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  108. You are probably pre-diabetic by localroger · · Score: 2, Informative
    Weight gain that does not respond to exercise is diagnostic of syndrome X. Get a blood glucose meter and check your resting blood glucose; if it's over 90, take a drink of orange juice or eat a snickers bar and check your glucose level about 45 minutes later. If it's over 140, you are poisoning yourself every time you eat.

    There are no drugs that can fully fix this, though metformin can help if your syndrome is advanced. You mainly have to adopt an atkins-like diet which avoids anything that spikes your glucose level over 140 mg/dl. That will cut out just about all bread, pasta, potatoes, and other starches. But in my case the gout was also a consideration, so I'm highly motivated to stick to it.

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    1. Re:You are probably pre-diabetic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm glad to see that at least one out of the 500 commenters realizes this. Most people have the cause and effect of weight gain reversed. Overeating and inactivity are largely influenced by hormonal factors, namely too much insulin which drives fat storage. When too much energy is being stored as fat, not enough is available for use which causes an increase in hunger to compensate, or lethargy to conserve energy. The way to reverse this is to lower carbohydrate consumption, which lowers insulin levels and increases insulin sensitivity.

    2. Re:You are probably pre-diabetic by markov_chain · · Score: 2, Funny

      Go go gadget k5 flashback :) Love your fiction sir!

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    3. Re:You are probably pre-diabetic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > take a drink of orange juice

      Uhm, in some countries "a drink of Orange Juice" would be just a sip - NOT enough to diagnose syndrome X. Do see a doctor.

  109. Bronze Bow workout by IronSilk · · Score: 1

    http://www.bronzebowpublishing.com/trinity-health-and-fitness-dvds These guys are cheezy, but the workout really works. It is super-portable and easily private. It's got a Christian flavor which you can ignore or enjoy, as you like. I get great results with this, and I feel good when I do these machine-free exercises. I'm not commercially or personally associated.

  110. Try Crossfit by bmwm3nut · · Score: 1

    There's a great program at www.crossfit.com. Check out their FAQ and the page on their philosophy. It's great, I agree with most of their philosophy, but not all. I've been doing it for 3 years now and I've never been more fit. Generally a workout takes 20 minutes. Sometimes there's a longer one, but that's rare. Most of the time you could do the workout at your house, however I use a gym because I like the better equipment. If you go to the gym a couple of times you'll get used to it and it won't feel so weird. I'm a bit of an introvert myself, so I understand where you're coming from, but give the gym a try, it'll do you more good in the end.

  111. Cycling is great for geeks and introverts by daybot · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Do any Slashdotters have a regular workout routine that can be performed in the privacy of the home to stave off those pounds?

    I literally just got back from a cycling workout - for me this means thrashing around town for an hour during the evening/night. OK, so it isn't in the privacy of the home, but regular cyclists know too well that nobody pays much attention to them :)

    Cycling is familiar territory for geeks since it involves a machine that's easy to tweak and upgrade components for performance and a lot of technology surrounds it. Cycling also suits introverts since it doesn't require much human interaction or a gym.

    1. Re:Cycling is great for geeks and introverts by Provoostenator · · Score: 1

      And you can bring a GPS logger and upload the data to OpenStreetMap if that makes you feel more comfortable in a geek way. That also applies to walking, but you can cover more ground on a bike.

    2. Re:Cycling is great for geeks and introverts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, I watch them...some of them are cute! But probably gay.

  112. Karate by Meister · · Score: 2, Informative

    I did Karate for several years until I moved and couldn't find my style taught in my new location.

    It's a great workout, but more than that, it's actually *engaging*, unlike endless hours on the treadmill or pounding pavement, both of which I find incredibly tedious (despite being a runner in high school).

    That said, weight gain has a lot to do with diet as well. If you're curious about the biology of nutrition and how your body reacts to different foods, I'd highly recommend Taubes' "Good Calories, Bad Calories". It's a dense but very interesting read.

    1. Re:Karate by Axess+Denyd · · Score: 1

      Nah. Kung Fu is WAY geekier than Karate.

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  113. Wii Fit... by adamziegler · · Score: 1

    I got one (Wii Fit) gifted to me a few weeks back. I used to be a weight lifter, so the exercises don't really compare in that respect. The Wii Fit does manage to get your heart rate up, helps with balance, and helps a bit with flexibility.

  114. Crossfit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://www.crossfit.com

    It may seem like a lot at first glance, but this stuff is fun. The daily post style brings in a little fun and the exercises work out your entire body.

  115. Cycling by rlp · · Score: 1

    I ride the local bike trails near my home while listening (thank you Leo Laporte) to tech podcasts. So far I've riden 700 miles this year.

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  116. Some excellent free exercise routines by mypalmike · · Score: 1

    Check out the exercise section at about.com. For instance, there's a great low-impact cardio workout that takes only about 15 minutes, but it will leave you sweating and winded if you're bad shape.

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  117. Walk + mp3 player by transmetal · · Score: 1

    I found the easiest thing to do is just run once or twice a week for the length of your favorite podcast. Start out walking once a week, and ramp up the intensity over time as you feel comfortable. My personal favorites for such a run include GFW radio / 1up Yours, which usually have a multi-hour runtime and enough geeky distraction that the time doesn't feel wasted. Eventually it'll just becomes a habit, which is what you want.

    1. Re:Walk + mp3 player by sohp · · Score: 1

      You can get shoes with a built-in iPod from Nike+. Very geek-friendly.

    2. Re:Walk + mp3 player by LilBlackDemon · · Score: 1

      I do this as well, but you should be warned against using music while you're running. The rhythm of music can upset the natural beat of your pace, which can lead to strain/injury and variable speed as songs change. You should always try to run at a constant pace, even on hills. If you can't keep the pace, shorten your steps and keep that rhythm constant.

  118. muscles by sveard · · Score: 1

    You want muscle mass. The more muscle mass you have, the more calories you burn while at rest. So ideally, you should do some weight lifting.

  119. Shovelglove by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Shovelglove has been a great upper-body workout for me. It's simple, cheap, and fun, and you can do it at home. Shovelgloving hardly takes any of your time; it emphasizes habit-building for long-term fitness rather than short-term gains.

    1. Re:Shovelglove by magnamous · · Score: 1

      I just ran across this website a few days ago. The author also has a diet-related website: The No S Diet Both seem reasonable to me (although I'd personally rather exercise more than 14 minutes a day just because I like it).

  120. treadmill w/ 'walkstation' mod by SemperUbi · · Score: 2, Informative
    Hi --

    I bought a home treadmill about two years ago for about $500, and I really like it. I've mostly been using it for regular workouts until recently, when I injured my ankle and have to take it easier. So I made a detachable 'desktop' mod that fits over the arms, that will hold a laptop, mouse and bookstand. I can type or browse the web just fine while walking at 2.5 mph -- very satisfying!

    Oh, and I got the idea from the 'walkstation' recently -- a professionally made treadmill and adjustable workstation. Looked great, but at $6000 it was a little rich for my blood.

  121. Re: Swimming & reduce intake by 10% by SubComdTaco · · Score: 1

    Swimming is the best all over muscle workout, combine that with a 10% decrease in what you consume and you will loose weight and tone up all over.

  122. Thougths from an ex-overweight guy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Until the start of 2008 I was about 90 lbs overweight and morbidly obese. Throughout the year I have lost 70 lbs, and I am on my way to having a healthy BMI.

    Here are my thoughts:

    You don't have to go to a gym, but it really helps to have access to nice array of equipment. Get over your fear of going to the gym. No one gives a crap about you --except for when you may be using equipment they want to use. If you want to avoid socializing, wear headphones or go during off hours. If you are afraid of the locker room (that's normal it takes sometime to get used to), then don't use it.

    Now on to to the technical stuff: You need to do a moderate to strenuous aerobic activity at least ~30 minutes a day 3 days a week (5 is better) for the rest of your life. I like to run, row, hike up mountains and occasionally use the elliptical machine. This is necessary for good cardiovascular health, and will help you in your later years. It will also as a side effect help you loose weight.

    You need to do some basic weight training. You seem to favor body weight exercises, keep doing push ups, try increasing the reps, or difficulty by doing them on an incline. Learn to do pullups/dips also. Finally buy a few dumbbells, going up to 35-40 lbs in weight. Learn to do basic curls, and some presses. Later on read some fitness books, or go to a couple of fitness blogs to learn how to do lifts and presses that work your big muscle groups --think squats, and dead lifts. Doing this won't make you a huge muscle guy (believe me the gains are not that great) but you'll be happy with your increased strength. It will also help to keep you from looking flabby.

    One more thing. The key to loosing weight is your diet. Good weight loss is slow, and steady. Cut 500-1000 calories from your diet, and you'll loose 2 lbs a week. However, you need to combine it with exercise or you'll have to keep "dieting" for the rest of your life to maintain your weight. That won't happen, so creating a nice caloric deficit through working out 3-5 times a day will help you maintain a healthy weight once you've reached it.

    1. Re:Thougths from an ex-overweight guy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I too was in a very similar position - spending far too much time at my computer and slowly putting on weight. I appreciate that the original poster is uncomfortable exercising in front of people - I thought exactly the same. I'm inherently not someone who enjoys exercise, especially not in team activities / with other people. I feel very self-conscious. However, at the recommendation of my fiance, on Wednesday I went to my local gym for the first time, and was shown around. I'd really really recommend you do the same. The person who showed me round was lovely, and made me feel comfortable. I've been back to the gym each day, and I'm finding it good fun. I've not felt self-conscious, nor out of place, and enjoy settling down to a gentle jog etc whilst listening to my iPod. There's a wide range of people in the gym, from elderly people to people significantly more overweight than me (~205 pounds), and of course a couple of very fit individuals. I realise that not all gyms are like this, but I'd urge you to visit a few. It might not be right for you, but please try.

  123. Podcast while biking by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I put 20 or so miles on my bike every day after work. That hour-hour and a half gives me some quality time to catch up on my podcasts as well.

  124. Why bother? by Gothmolly · · Score: 0, Troll

    100% serious.

    All the lifestyle diseases (high blood pressure, diabetes, heart disease, etc) are manageable these days, we can thank the Greatest Generation for that. So continue to geek out, self-medicate with soda and ice cream, and enjoy your more cerebral lifestyle.

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    1. Re:Why bother? by urcreepyneighbor · · Score: 1

      cerebral

      Fit body, fit mind. Seriously.

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  125. I am an introvert too by whereizben · · Score: 1

    As is my wife, but we both have gotten over it in a desire to lead healthier lives - I now do distance running and triathlons (more the triathlons, as it works more of the body, and is easier on the legs) and my wife does distance running and is thinking about the triathlons too. I understand completely about doing this stuff in front of people, but I just had to get over it - better than to be dead early! (And in the long run, it saves a ton of money by being healthy) I have lost 30 pounds, brought my blood pressure down, my overall cholesterol down, and my HDL (the good kind) way up. It really works!

  126. Obvious answer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Eat less.

    Cut down on dairy (skinny lattes if you must?)
    Don't put sugar in your drinks
    Diet soda

    I'm 30 now and I've stabilised my weight by doing these simple things. If you also manage to fit exercise in your routine, all the better.

    Oh yeah, and eat less.

  127. Water Rower works well by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    I recently bought a water rower which simulates rowing very smoothly. I used to run a few years ago but am getting older and running is getting more difficult. The water rower workout is very low impact and good cardio. It can be hooked up to your computer to track every aspect of your workout (thats the geek part). The bad news is that it cost a little over $1200 but like you I wanted to workout at home.

    1. Re:Water Rower works well by Hemogoblin · · Score: 1

      I haven't heard of a "water rower" before, is it similar to an ergometer? Ergometer's are great exercise, but you really need good form or you're going to mess up your back. I would highly recommend having a trainer teach you how to use it, and to periodically check up on your form for a few weeks.

  128. Get an elliptical by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have an elliptical in the living room... While watching the sciFi channel - I put on the heart monitor, grab a bottle of water, and the remote, and go for an hour... Burns all kinds of calories and fat...

    Get a good one so you can go faster as you build your stamina...

  129. I promise this works! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://www.4mcd.usmc.mil/AOP/OSOHyattsville/Armstrong%20Pullup%20Program.htm

    I promise you this works!

  130. CrossFit. by fuzzdawg · · Score: 1

    One Word:
    CrossFit.

    Seriously.
    The best thing you could ever do for fitness. Try reading their What is Fitness? article to see CrossFit's foudation and philosophy.

    3.2.1. GO!!

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  131. RCAF's 5BX Plan by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Developed years ago, but abandoned 25 years ago, this program is very effective for some people.
    And, it's FREE!
    http://www.gettingfitagain.com/5bx.php

  132. Yoga by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Seriously, full body tone, stress relief, its even a cardiovascular workout if you do it right. On top of that, its low impact (good for those old joints) and its an ancient practice that has nothing to do with technology (also a bit of a relief).

    As an added bonus, most yoga classes are full of chicks.

    1. Re:Yoga by dubl-u · · Score: 1

      I second all of that.

      My yoga teacher claims that the origin of yoga is as preparation for extended meditation. The notion is that if you satisfy your body's needs, it will hush up and let you think. And really, what's programming but focused meditation with a bit of typing?

      And yes, working out with the hot chicks is a nice bonus.

    2. Re:Yoga by StarfishOne · · Score: 1

      "As an added bonus, most yoga classes are full of chicks."

      "The notion is that if you satisfy your body's needs, it will hush up and let you think"

      Hmmm.....somewhere there's a witty remark in there *ponders*

  133. Treadmill works by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's about 10pm here, and I'm just about to get on the treadmill. And I have to get up around 6am. If you want to be a geek and not die of a heart attack when you're 45, that's what you have to do.

    I'm a geek, but I'm not in bad shape.

  134. Battle of the bulge by blueforce · · Score: 4, Informative

    Personally, I go to a gym. But then, I live in a small town so I don't see very many *people*. Incidentally, I've always gone to a gym, even when I lived in a slightly larger town of Philadelphia.

    The key to the middle parts is: it's the last fat to go.

    You don't say how old you are, but the fact is you're getting older and your metabolism continues to slow each year. You can combat that by moving (aka exercise) and eating. Yes, eating. If you don't take in enough calories - the right calories - your body will react by storing what it can, usually in your middle. Unfortunately, your middle is the last place you lose from.

    Muscles burn calories. You can increase your resting metabolic rate by building muscle. Just having more muscle mass == more calories burned sitting on your butt. It's a vicious cycle though, if you don't maintain the muscle (aka exercise) you'll lose it through catabolism (body breaks it down for energy).

    There's a godzillion things you can do at home, but the easiest way to start is with push-ups and sit-ups. Buy an exercise ball, one of those big funny-looking rubber balls. There are dozens of different exercises you can do with those. They're cheap and they're extremely versatile. You don't necessarily need weights if you're a beginner, or even intermediate. You just need to use your body as the weight and do _something_ to trick your body into building some muscle mass. (You won't build a ton just doing pushups, but you'd be suprised how quickly it works) Consistency is key - 3 times per week on the "weights". You need a day in-between to allow your body to recover and actually build the muscle.

    This one goes without saying: Eat healthy!

    If you have the means, i.e. space and money, get a treadmill. Use it 30 minutes a day, 5-6 days a week.

    The bottom line is, you have to burn calories and build some muscle. The only way to do either one is to _move_ a lot.

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  135. Mine by Grimbleton · · Score: 1

    Weight lifting and bicycling/walking everywhere.

    My only problem is I'm starting off at about 6'3", 330lbs (Yeah, I'm a fatty.) so I have a pretty long way to go. I'm down a few pounds, but not enough.

  136. Fingertip Workouts by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 1

    The Geek Nation's fingers are lean, mean, typing machines!

    With a whole brigade of specialists in one-handed operations.

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  137. Yoga. by rdsingh · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Get a good book on Yoga and practice at your own. Or, gather up some courage to go to a Yoga session and learn.

  138. The Hacker's Diet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The founder of Autocad had the same problem. He wrote down his reasoning and results in "The Hacker's Diet". You can find it online at his web site: http://www.fourmilab.ch/hackdiet/

    Essentially, it describes a system for instrumenting your weight loss that allows you to precisely control how much and how fast you lose the weight.

    There is a section on exercise as well, but he explains why he doesn't believe exercise is effective for weight loss, but rather more about fitness and staying at your goal weight.

    YMMV

  139. Geek Exercise Toys by hallucination · · Score: 2, Insightful

    After the doctor told me that unless I started to exercise more, I was going to have to go on blood pressure medication (at age 25), I started cycling. I found the best way to get me going was to buy some geek gadgets to help me get excited. Garmin make some nice GPS bike toys which monitor your heart rate, altitude, position, etc and allow you to load it up to your PC afterwards via USB. They also make a wrist watch version.

    1. Re:Geek Exercise Toys by Derosian · · Score: 1

      My doctor didn't tell me that I could exercise instead of taking the medicine!!!!(age 21)

    2. Re:Geek Exercise Toys by dubl-u · · Score: 1

      They also make a wrist watch version.

      I have one of those, the Garmin Forerunner 305, and I love it. All that lovely data is just plain fun to play with. But it's also surprisingly useful. With a heart monitor, I found that I was often working out too hard. Once I started learning to keep my effort more even, I enjoyed my workouts a lot more. Which means that I actually did them more.

  140. Look At Low Glycemic Foods by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    As we get older, we tend to get more insulin resistant. One of the functions of insulin is to lower blood sugar levels by moving the blood sugar to muscle and fat cells. Muscle cells get insulin resistant before fat cells so it goes mostly there. One of the characteristics is a band of fat between the navel and the solar plexus that never seems to go away. Switch to moderately sized, low glycemic meals along with exercize. You can check http://www.glycemicindex.com/ for GI values. I've used a low GI diet to drop over 30 pounds after trying everything else for years without results.

    Switching to low GI meals can be especially important if your family has a history of diabetes. Medical studies have shown that these types of foods can reverse metabolic syndrome symptoms which is a stage right before full blown diabetes.

    A good antioxidant/mineral supplement regimen would be beneficial as well.

  141. Go to the gym to beat the rush by British · · Score: 1

    I work in an area that gets ULTRA-congested during rush hour(Plymouth, MN). So I instead drive 3 miles from my workplace, hit the gym, and then after the gym, it's a smooth ride home. I figure my time is better spent burning calories at the gym, than burning gas waiting at Hwy 55's 100000 stoplights(and yes, you will hit each one).

    Mind you, my biggest weight loss(9 pounds) happened recently over loss of appetite, due to depression over not having a job for 2.5 months prior. Being in an office environment, I gotta compensate it by hitting the gym more often.

  142. You do not do that every night. by Sybert42 · · Score: 0

    First, stop lying to yourself. You do it when you can, and usually don't count.

  143. Do what I do... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    1. Go to park
    2. Turn on PSP/DS
    3. Walk & Play
    4. ???
    5. Profit!

    Sure you'll keep bumping into people (and trees) in the beginning, but in time you'll manage to subconsciously evade them.

    Another theory is that they learned to evade me...

  144. I pretty much just wiggle about. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've been doing martial arts and sports for about 35 years now, mostly swords with occasionally forays into unarmed, archery and paintball.

    I've learned and forgotten a dozen or more routines/kata/techniques, but nowadays I just go into a room I keep clear for the purpose and try to clear my mind. As I become aware of the various things in my body that are less than toned and positioned properly, I move to remedy the situation, without trying to pre-plan what I will do. I tend to fall into some fairly circular patterns but I don't repeat much. I imagine it would look quite mad to anyone watching, but I do it alone so I dunno.

    I don't go for the Sufi thing, I just move and breathe.

  145. Eat less by Goonie · · Score: 1

    Exercise is good for many reasons, including improving muscle tone, reducing your risk of heart attacks, improving your aerobic capacity and so on. However, my experience is that it's virtually impossible to lose weight by exercise alone unless you go to the lengths of Steve Vaught.

    I managed to lose 60 pounds (and have now kept it off for about six months), and the key was combining the exercise I was already doing with eating less. Initially, I ate a lot of those not-very-tasty diet meals; long-term, I've largely cut out things like fries and cola from my diet, and just gotten used to eating smaller portions and not snacking between meals. Now that I've lost the weight, I still eat nice food; I've just learned that I have to eat less of it if I want to maintain a reasonable weight.

    As far as exercise goes, I echo the suggestions to try riding a bike. Can be as solo, or as social, as you like.

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  146. team sports by enbody · · Score: 1

    I know that you specified doing things on your own, but I recommend that you consider team sports. I'm an old geek in my fifties and participate in team sports. You'd be surprised how tolerant people are with others who are non-athletic and getting started at something. You simply need to find the right group. Some teams are for the hard core, but there are many that are not. Ask around. I guarantee that there is something you can get into.

    I say this because I find individual workouts so boring that I cannot keep up with them.

    I'll second the comments about choosing to live reasonably close to work and biking. Not everyone can do that, but many can.

  147. Biking FTW! by jav1231 · · Score: 1

    I bike about 50mi or more a week.

    1. Re:Biking FTW! by NerveGas · · Score: 1

      That's all? So, after doing that to warm up, what do you do next? :D

      Just kidding. I used to bike a LOT. I kept track of my mileage, and over 2 years, never put in less than 300 miles per week. But that was many years ago, and now I find biking to be much more mundane, and I'm lucky if I put in 5 miles per week. And unfortunately, my gut shows the effects.

      The only thing that keeps me on the bike is putting my kid in a bike trailer and taking him with me.

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    2. Re:Biking FTW! by jav1231 · · Score: 1

      Well on weekends I mountain bike. I'd like to do 100mi a week but life and rain get in the way. :(

  148. Kung Fu by J05H · · Score: 1

    ...or other martial art. Shaolin styles are most highly recommended. Our school curricula includes lots of stretching and calisthenics (pushups, hindu pushups, half-squat, splits, bricks etc) along with coordination drills (punching & kicking) and forms. Two one-hour classes a week will make you into a different kind of geek.

    Cycling is also great, but not as comprehensive - it is cardio and legs mostly.

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  149. that's always tough by ClioCJS · · Score: 1
    The $200 ones are really sturdy, but really don't pass muster in terms of cost trade-off. The $20 mats may as well be slip n' slides. We usually settle on the $60 mats, which are thicker, and have a semi-anti-slip bottom to them. They didn't move around on carpet. And when they die, you can tape a $20 mat to the top of it if you are so inclined.

    They also sell anti-slip stuff.. sometimes at the dollar store. I got a few "placemats" made out of these and put them on the bottom for more anti-slippage.

    I've seen the $20 mats simply attached to a piece of plywood of equal size. You could just replace the $20 mat when it wears out.

    If you play daily, they WILL wear out. Gamestop has a nice $5 2 year replacement policy. I would open mine up every 3-4 months and use a good 5 feet of electrical tape shoring up the rips so they don't get worse. I'd do this 2 or 3X before the mat would just suck and have to be replaced.

    It's really not that bad. Especially if you have a low ceiling with stucco on it that you can grab on if you lose your balance :) hehe

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  150. in your commute! by urIkon · · Score: 1

    like a lot of you (i assume), i live in the burbs and have to trek to the shitty every day.

    ride a bike instead of driving. if its too far for that, ride your bike to a bus stop. preemptive apologies to those of you in cites with piss poor public transportation.

    1. Re:in your commute! by Provoostenator · · Score: 2, Insightful

      In which case you should probably consider moving to another city; the savings on not needing a car and "savings" in health will probably pay for your move.

  151. And it requires some thought! by shawnmchorse · · Score: 3, Informative

    The primary reasons martial arts are my preferred form of exercise:

    1. You have to actually think about what you're doing quite often. You're not just doing mindless aerobics.
    2. The group situation pushes you farther than you'd normally push yourself, and encourages you to reach new plateaus.
    3. Classes are generally directed at all times. It's kind of like having personal trainers with you at all times, in that there's always a series of directed activities and you're not casting about for what to do next.

    With that said, there are MANY bad martial arts schools out there. I generally avoid any place that doesn't seem to have any women or older men participating, that sees fit to display huge numbers of trophies on entry, or that has a master whose personality I don't think I could get along with. There are a lot of arrogant pricks in the martial arts world, and there's no need to pay for and encourage them. Similarly, there are plenty of schools out there that seem to exist so that young 20s males can beat the crap out of each other. Let them... and go somewhere else.

    1. Re:And it requires some thought! by pluther · · Score: 1

      I second (third? fiftieth? whatever) getting into martial arts.

      For all the reasons mentioned above. I dropped gym memberships in the past because I could never get motivated to actually go. I've been doing Aikido for about nine months now and can heartily recommend it. We have scheduled classes, and I always end up being pushed a little farther than I really want to be, but so far, never too far. You really can work at about your own pace.

      One of the things I really like about aikido specifically is that we don't actually spar - I could never really get into the constant competition of the arts where that's important. In most traditions of aikido there are no competitions at all.

      Scope a place out a bit first to see if you like it. Most dojos should let you watch a class or two before deciding whether to join, and possibly participate in one as well. If, like me, you've never really gotten much exercise before, prepare for some pain in the beginning. But it is definitely worth it.

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    2. Re:And it requires some thought! by silas_moeckel · · Score: 1

      Now now leave the 20 something and teen males alone it gives us heavy armor combat guys somebody stupid enough to think they can take on a guy in articulated plate mail.

      Back on topic western martial arts can be fun and a good workout, plate mail is not the lightest thing in the world ya know.

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    3. Re:And it requires some thought! by The+Dancing+Panda · · Score: 1

      Always nice to see another Aikidosha. :)

      I've been training in aikido for ~12 years now. It can be a real workout. I can tell everyone the secret though, you don't need to ever go to an Aikido class to get the Aikido workout. The same aerobics can be achieved by the following:

      1. Fall Down
      2. Get Up
      3. Repeat

      Sure, there is weapons training to strengthen your arms, and other things to make it a class rather than a romper room, but the actual aerobics are from falling down and getting back up ad infinitum.

      Good luck with your training.

    4. Re:And it requires some thought! by meringuoid · · Score: 1
      If, like me, you've never really gotten much exercise before, prepare for some pain in the beginning.

      And more pain later on. You start out with pain due to using muscles that have been idle for the past decade, and due to pressure on the knees... but now about five or six months in, the pain is mostly due to OH MY GOD WHAT ARE YOU DOING TO MY ARM OWWWWWWWWWWWWW :-)

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    5. Re:And it requires some thought! by Aladrin · · Score: 1

      Thank you.

      I have been considering a local Aikido class, but I kept thinking back to the karate class I had when I was about 10. It was constantly about sparring and they talked about competitions. I actually did okay on the sparring, except against girls... I just couldn't bring myself to hit them, even when they were much bigger than me.

      Knowing that Aikido isn't into sparring and competitions brings me one step closer to joining.

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    6. Re:And it requires some thought! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      brazilian jui jitsu is a very good martial art to take up.
      it does encourage live sparring under the rules of bjj but any martail art that shys away from sparring shouldnt realy call itself a martial art.

      fitness levels will rise dramatically as a result of the very physical nature the sport presents but it can be taken at ones own pace.

      it encourages all the major vascular activities as well as flexibility.the perfect fitness programme.

    7. Re:And it requires some thought! by kevinl · · Score: 1

      I completely agree; Martial Arts are ideal. Here are some additional points to consider.

      1. Chances are good that you will find lots of fellow geek introverts at a martial arts school. Becoming less introverted is one reason many people choose martial arts. Sometimes those introverts end up becoming the best instructors.
      2. Don't worry about looking stupid in front of other people. Everyone looks stupid when they start. At most schools you will find lots of sympathetic people willing to help you look less stupid because they remember how terrible they were at the beginning.
      3. It is a full-body workout. Arms, legs, trunk, cardio. Perfect.
      4. It is not boring. Martial arts require focus and concentration. For me, other types of indoor exercise are just mind-numbing.

      Here is some advice on finding a martial arts school:
      1. As fitness is your primary goal, look for a "family martial arts school" to get started.
      2. Visit several schools and talk to the instructors there. Watch a beginner class; that's where you will be starting. Watch an advanced class (students with 2-3 years experience). Make sure the advanced students actually look better than the beginners.
      3. Most schools will let you try one or more classes for free, or do free private lesson. Walk away if they don't.
      4. Martial arts schools are notorious for trying to lock you into long-term contracts. There is a whole consulting business that is based on encouraging this practice. Ask for a month-to-month option that you can start with. Even if it costs more, pay month-to-month until you decide this is an activity you want to pursue long term. You don't want to be stuck with a year of payments if you decide after 3 weeks you hate it.
      5. Consumer protection laws vary wildly depending on what state you live in; I assume this is true outside the US as well. Know your rights and their obligations.
      6. Ask about the cost for promotions (belt tests) and required equipment. Be suspicious if they require lots of expensive equipment that you did not see being used in the classes you observed.
      7. Don't get too wrapped up in choosing a particular style of art. Pay more attention to the atmosphere and methods of instruction.

    8. Re:And it requires some thought! by D+Ninja · · Score: 1

      With that said, there are MANY bad martial arts schools out there.

      I second this. Be very, very careful about your choice of martial arts schools. Most places will let you try out a few classes for free. Do it. Make sure you meet the head instructor, look at class makeup, look at what belt ranks are there. I tried out one school that had 30 students and not a single black belt. That may seem "hardcore," but it can get extremely frustrating if an instructor never promotes people. Additionally, when a school has no black belts, it may indicate that they don't stick around for various reasons.

      Either way, I highly recommend martial arts as a form of working out.

    9. Re:And it requires some thought! by hal9000(jr) · · Score: 1

      Similarly, there are plenty of schools out there that seem to exist so that young 20s males can beat the crap out of each other.

      I love fighting the 20 somethings. I am 40 something and three years into Go-Jyu-Ryu. The 20 somethings are into high kicks. I can get my foot up to my chest in a front kick and the stomach in a round house (though it's slow cause it's at the end of my range).

      But in sparring, I check the hip movement and when their leg comes up, I just drive in with hands. Defeats them every time. Once they catch on, though, I have a tougher battle.

    10. Re:And it requires some thought! by apt142 · · Score: 1

      I went to a weeping jujutsu seminar once. They were teaching all sorts of hand locks and such. When the sensei came around to help us refine our techniques it was always a bitter sweet experience. He really knew what he was doing. And he was always eager to demonstrate.

    11. Re:And it requires some thought! by MrNiceguy_KS · · Score: 1

      Another sign of a bad martial arts school: advancing students too quickly. Before you sign up, ask how often a student can belt test. If it's monthly, they're probably just generating testing fees (and black belts that don't know anything.)

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    12. Re:And it requires some thought! by Mr.+Beatdown · · Score: 1

      Or go to the gym where the young 20's males beat the crap out of each other. I do, and it's great. Just make sure it's Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu or Judo, or losing frequently means injury.

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    13. Re:And it requires some thought! by try_anything · · Score: 1

      Knowing that Aikido isn't into sparring and competitions brings me one step closer to joining.

      If you don't like competitive martial arts, you should consider doing something else that involves competition. We have deeply rooted instincts that hold us back when nothing is on the line. I know people who do all kinds of exercise (running, cycling, lifting weights) who talk about how their sport allows them to "compete against themselves" and "live up to their true potential" and "channel their inner drive" and blah blah blah, but when you talk them into a game of Ultimate Frisbee, they end up exerting themselves harder than they have since they were teenagers and having an epic "Holy crap I didn't realize I was holding back" revelation. Then two weeks later they're back to coasting along in their mellow "I'm competing against myself" pseudo-exertion. The only people I know who manage to go all-out at solitary sports like running are the ones who always know when their next race is.

      So give competition a chance! "Mellow" is not an effective mode of exercise. The pain of losing is a small price to pay for discovering new levels of effort and performance.

    14. Re:And it requires some thought! by try_anything · · Score: 1

      Replying to myself to add a P.S.: Competitive judo (or maybe jiu-jitsu; I haven't tried it) might be more to your liking than karate. These days, judo is usually seen and taught as a sport (though it can also be practiced as a martial art.) As a sport, it has goals and rules that have nothing to do with hurting your opponent.

      With the exception of submitting your opponent (in which you are much more limited, technique-wise, than in MMA) pain and physical damage don't enter the competitive equation at all. You're actually more likely to get hurt when your opponent botches a throw (for zero or fractional points) than when your opponent throws you perfectly (for a full point, winning the match.)

      In contrast, it's hard to award points for punching someone without trying to distinguish between a worthless ticky-tack punch and a solid connection, so striking martial arts, even when practiced as sport, are still in some sense oriented around the concept of hurting your opponent. If that's what bothered you about karate, judo is a wonderful alternative AND a hellacious workout.

      P.P.S. Don't be such a chauvinist pig :-)

    15. Re:And it requires some thought! by try_anything · · Score: 1

      Or you could do judo, where falling down and getting up are the little rest breaks you savor between the frantic, exhausting attempts NOT to fall down :-)

    16. Re:And it requires some thought! by Aladrin · · Score: 1

      It's not about pain or anything, I'm just not a competitive person. Not even 'against myself'. I used to play games to 'beat them' or 'beat the opponent', but I don't really even enjoy that any more.

      Our species may be competitive by nature, but that doesn't mean every single one of us is.

      Instead, I find that I over-exert myself when there's a job to do, or fun to be had. The last vacation I took left me in physical pain for about a week because I overdid all the fun activities, like seadooing, for about 5 days straight. (Yeah, I'm badly out of shape... Hence the thread I'm posting in.) Despite the pain on the first day, I continued to overdo it the whole vacation. There was no competition involved at all, just good fun.

      I remember mellow fun from my karate class when I was a kid, and I'd like that again from a new class. The only thing I didn't like about it was the sparring.

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  152. Shovelglove by SanityInAnarchy · · Score: 1

    http://shovelglove.com/

    The theory is: It's dirt-simple, dirt-cheap, and you'll keep doing it for the rest of your life.

    Except I haven't actually done it; just going to buy a sledgehammer tomorrow.

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  153. Actually... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    > The deep can be treacherous and the bike will weigh you down like you wouldn't believe.

    At least you can abandon the bike (though it may be a pain to get it out of the pool afterwords). Those damn roller blades make it almost impossible to dog paddle and they're a lot harder to get off.

    1. Re:Actually... by DuckDodgers · · Score: 1

      That's not entirely true.

      When you move, you only use some fraction of the fibers in each muscle at a given time. Your body constantly alternates which muscle fibers it uses to give them time to rest and recharge between uses.

      Consistent aerobic exercise strengthens the muscles involved enough so that the individual fibers can do a lot more work. That gives the resting fibers more time to relax before they're called upon again for effort, which makes it easier for your heart, lungs, and blood system to remove wastes and provide additional energy and oxygen.

      Serious strength training hinders aerobic performance because you add so much mass to the muscles that the improved fiber strength is offset in long duration exercise by the extra work of moving more muscle weight. But moderate strength training will make you dramatically better at aerobic activities than a sedentary person, even if you don't workout for long periods. Your body may not have the improved aerobic efficiency of an endurance athlete, but it can rotate among the muscle fibers more slowly like one.

      The sedentary individual gets hit from both sides. They lack the aerobic efficiency to recharge the fatigued muscles quickly, and they lack the muscle strength to give individual fibers long breaks between use. The individual muscle fibers are called upon often and poorly rested between uses.

      I'm a fat guy who neglected aerobic exercises for many years, but I did squats as a routine part of my strength training. I can walk up five flights of stairs without taking a break or gasping for air or even run a mile (with effort) despite my bulk, because what I lack in aerobic capacity is mildly offset by leg muscle strength. ( But I've been punished for my obesity with a back injury, and now weighted squats are off the schedule and aerobics are back on it. That's just as well, since I find it easier to control my constant overeating after aerobic workouts versus resistance workouts. )

    2. Re:Actually... by mario_grgic · · Score: 1

      What you are saying has some merit, however strength training increases fast twitch to slow twitch muscle fiber ratio, i.e. you have more fast twitch fibers.

      Fast twitch fibers rely on a completely different metabolic reserve which is depleted in a minute or less. So if the activity is longer and esp. if it is 20 min or more long your big fast twitch muscles do not help you at all (as a matter of fact they hinder you since your slow twitch fibers have to carry that extra weight around :D).

      Look up on physiology of cycling for example here: http://www.midweekclub.ca/articles/coggan.pdf

      It's fascinating.

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    3. Re:Actually... by DuckDodgers · · Score: 1

      Well, I did mention that in what I wrote. If you have huge muscles, they hinder your aerobic capacity because the extra weight often adds more work than the extra strength can help you handle.

      And I still maintain that within reason (i.e. below the threshold where the extra mass hurts more than the extra strength), additional muscle helps tremendously in aerobic exercise. Aerobic exercise is not purely about lung and heart capacity/efficiency.

  154. Re:Masturbation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    One word for you... sores

    One word for you... lube

  155. Run! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The beauty of running is that it's the most basic and natural activity that requires absolutely zero investment in gear. All you need is running shoes and a nice route.

    Endorophins (I am guessing) make you feel great afterwards. Running regardless of the weather helps with colds and immune system.

    I started running a year ago, from 1 mile and now up to 3 miles every work day. Highly recommended.

  156. audiobooks by j01123 · · Score: 1
    A good MP3 player and some audiobooks help a lot. Exercise that would otherwise be boring (walking, running, etc.) is much more enjoyable when you are simultaneously doing the equivalent of reading a book. You might be surprised by how much more you exercise when you always have a good audiobook available.

    Unfortunately the commercial audiobook options aren't great: CDs are expensive; Audible is moderately expensive and DRM'd. Fortunately, some public libraries have a good selection of books on CD.

  157. Look up The Hacker's Diet, by John Walker by Beryllium+Sphere(tm) · · Score: 3, Informative

    Somewhere in fourmilab.ch, there's a free book about weight loss from a geek perspective which includes an exercise program which is
    o quick, under 15 minutes to complete
    o private
    o works with no special equipment
    o is not suitable if you have back problems, get professional advice if you do.

    If you live in a hilly area then walking can get your heart rate into the aerobic training range. Aerobic exercise has cognitive benefits too.

    Lots of people have reported good results from Dance Dance Revolution.

    Sounds like you've solved the #1 problem, motivation. It's a miracle that any geeks retain any interest in fitness after the physical "education" classes in school. But you're already familiar with the fact that your brain feels better in a body that goes when you step on the gas. The other way to look at it is that your body is like a Swiss Army knife, it's the tool you always have with you, so it might as well be functional.

    1. Re:Look up The Hacker's Diet, by John Walker by freddej · · Score: 1

      Just like the post said, awesome training part in the hackers diet:

      http://www.fourmilab.ch/hackdiet/www/chapter1_2_5.html

  158. Duh by kingcool1432 · · Score: 1

    fap fap fap.. :)

  159. Exercise: It actually makes you feel good by Gewalt · · Score: 1

    I run an hour a night (after the sun goes down), and do about 30 miles of trail riding on a mountain bike every weekend. the thing about running is... it SUCKS to get into, but it's awesome once you get over that hump. And of course, biking is just plain fun. I really enjoy my exercise and wouldnt trade it for a whole day of sitcoms, let alone the hour a day I "give up" for this awesome feeling.

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  160. 12 ounce curls... by LaTechTech · · Score: 0

    Multiple repetitions of 12 ounce curls BoC (Beverage of Choice).

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  161. I know something about this unlike you thin people by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Purchase an expensive workout machine. I bought an elliptical earlier this year and have lost around 40 pounds.

    There is nothing like a good, sweaty workout first thing in the morning.

    PS: I'm *still* a fat ass

  162. Indoor bike /w resistance + walking (cardio) by blahplusplus · · Score: 1

    Indoor bike /w resistance + walking (cardio), also some weight training at home. You should brun at least 800 calories a day worth of workout, and keep yourself eating just under 1800 cals for the first week to see results on the scale. Cut out ALL sugary drinks, move to water, and just eat what you do normally. You don't have to radically change your diet, but you DO have to burn off more then you take in. Cardio (biking, walking, running) combined with free weight strength training are the best ways to lose weight.

    If you're going to walk: At least 2 hours a day 7/days a week + freeweights + indoor bike (note that distnace is more important then time, you can walk faster, do more distance, etc)

    If you're going to run, google articles on running, you have to build yourself up slowly to learn how to sustain yourself running over time, it's basically similar to the above, except you do less time running once you've gotten up to a full hour at least without stopping too much, add in some freeweight training, etc.

    Great sites to get you started:

    http://www.fitday.com/ (tracking what you eat)
    http://www.johnstonefitness.com/

    That is pretty much the way to go!

  163. Bike and walk. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Bike to work (and just about everywhere) in summer. Walk to work in winter (I don't like biking in snow). Weightlifting required to move your wallet given the money you'll save.

  164. What I do by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I don't particularly enjoy working out in public either. Furthermore, I find weight lifting, jogging around tracks and the like to be incredibly monotonous. I have taken up walking at night. It doesn't conflict with my schedule, can be a lot of fun if you find a good partner, reduces stress. I find that I hardly miss the sleep I might lose from walking because I find it so stress relieving, that I need less sleep.

    1. Re:What I do by stewbacca · · Score: 1

      I find weight lifting, jogging around tracks and the like to be incredibly monotonous.

      I find grinding in Stranglethorn Vale to be incredibly monotonous too, but I gotta get to level 40!

  165. Learn Ninjutsu by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...or scour the decks, me hearty!

  166. Don't exercise, for god's sake by AlejoHausner · · Score: 1
    Geez people! What's happened to us all? Why do we think that exercise leads to weight loss? Why should calorie restriction lead to weight loss? It doesn't make any sense. Think about it.

    Consider calorie restriction. Suppose your base metabolism is such that you burn 2000 calories per day. Let's hypothesize the (apparently obvious) premise that any calories ingested beyond this value will be stored as fat (and conversely, if you eat less than 2000, you'll burn fat).

    Well, how the heck do you manage to eat exactly 2000 calories per day? It's very hard. Suppose you're off by 100 calories, which is not hard to do (eg, a slice of white bread has 80 calories). You consistently eat 100 calories too many, every day. Well, after 365 days, you'll have eaten 36,500 calories too many, and since one gram of fat has 8 calories, you'll have gained 4.5 kilos, or about 10 pounds. Keep this up for 10 years, and you'll have gained 100 pounds. Amazing!

    Conversely, if you consistently eat one slice of bread too few, you'll lose 100 pounds in 10 years, and die of anorexia!

    Silly, isn't it? Let's make it more random, and assume that some days you eat 100 calories too many, some days 100 too few, at random. There is a substantial probability that the surplus and the deficit will not cancel out exactly. After all, the odds of tossing a coin 365 times and have it come up HTHTHTHTHTHTHTHTHTHT... heads and tails alternating exactly, cancelling each other out, is 0.5^365, which is a very small number (about 10^-110). ANY OTHER OUTCOME LEADS TO WEIGHT LOSS OR GAIN!

    So, you'd expect to see people walking around weighing thousands of pounds, or being skeletons and dying in droves.

    But this doesn't happen. The observed fact is that most people hold the SAME weight for many years. The body follows a "set point".

    So, something else must cause weight gain. It's certainly not calories.

    1. Re:Don't exercise, for god's sake by maxume · · Score: 1

      Dude, you are drunk before you start drinking. That must be awesome.

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    2. Re:Don't exercise, for god's sake by AlejoHausner · · Score: 1
      I don't mind being called drunk. I do mind being ignored out of hand. Did you actually read what I wrote? What part of my argument did you find illogical?

      In a car, the number of Joules expended is exactly matched by the Joules taken in as gasoline. But how can you account for the fact that most people's weight remains constant despite wildly varying daily caloric intake? Doesn't that tell you that people aren't like cars?

      Wake up and smell the morality-driven bad medical advice that's been promulgated for the past fifty years.

      Jeez.

    3. Re:Don't exercise, for god's sake by maxume · · Score: 1

      The part where you argue from the assumption that the deficits and surpluses need to balance each other out over very short periods of time in order for things to be balanced. 0.5 pounds represents a pretty large number of calories (especially measured in daily plus-minuses); most people drift up and down a pound or 2 over a few months rather than staying exactly static, and day to day, the amount of water in their system makes it very difficult to see the calorie signal.

      I think if you talked to a doctor about it, you would find out that they don't believe that it is strictly related to caloric intake the way a simpler machine is, but if you want to lose weight, you need to run a long term deficit, and if you want to gain weight, you need to run a long term surplus. It is simple physics.

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    4. Re:Don't exercise, for god's sake by AlejoHausner · · Score: 1
      First of all, thanks for your polite reply.

      Looking at your post, I see that you are making several arguments in one:

      1. People's weight varies slightly due to water loss and gain. This is true, so my initial position was overstated. I agree now that people's weight isn't straight-line constant. But lots of studies do show that people's weight does stay largely constant, modulo the minor variations you point to.
      2. "It is simple physics", ie delta_weight = calories_in - calories_burned. Here, again, there's lots of good studies that say that this does not hold. Many fat people go on diets for years on end, eating 1500 calories per day, yet their bodies refuse to drop below a certain level. Eating 1500 calories is very hard, but these people have strong wills. They're not gluttonous moral weaklings.

      Physics isn't being violated, thank god. The law of energy conservation still holds. But using a physics argument fails in this case, because the body is so adaptable. Metabolism must be adjusting to the calories being consumed. It must be going up when you eat more, and going down when you eat less. It's the only answer that fits the observed facts.

    5. Re:Don't exercise, for god's sake by maxume · · Score: 1

      So the studies that show a restricted calorie diet does not lead to weight loss are somehow a reason not to exercise?

      Exercise will increase a persons metabolism. There are medical reasons that some people cannot exercise. There are dozens of fat people that are fat because they eat too much and don't exercise for each and every person that has a real metabolic or other health issue.

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    6. Re:Don't exercise, for god's sake by AlejoHausner · · Score: 1
      Exercise will increase a person's metabolism

      Are you sure about this? Of course, it "makes sense", just like it makes sense that calorie restriction leads to weight loss. And yes, it has been said many times, so it must be true too.

      To counter this assertion, I recommend a cool article by Gary Taubes (a scrupulous science writer with a low-carb bent) in "New York" magazine. In it, he presents evidence that exercise per se doesn't lead to weight loss.

      What he does say, which I find interesting, is that people are born with a certain level of activity built in. Some people are nervous rabbit-like types like me, and they never gain weight (I eat lots, and exercise little). Other people are calm and sedentary, and tend to gain weight. What he points out is that thin people are prone to be active, whereas fat people are prone to inactivity. This is an observed correlation.

      At this point, we will often jump to infer a causal effect from the correlation: we will conclude that it proves that exercise leads to weight loss. This inference is especially tempting because it meshes with the energy-balance theory of weight loss.

      But Taubes cites a very thorough review of exercise-weight studies, in which the Finnish authors decided the problem was "more complex" than people think. People who exercised sometimes lost weight, sometimes gained. The cause-and-effect connection isn't really there.

    7. Re:Don't exercise, for god's sake by russotto · · Score: 1

      Geez people! What's happened to us all? Why do we think that exercise leads to weight loss? Why should calorie restriction lead to weight loss?

      Because in this universe, we obey the law of conservation of energy.

      Your "one slice of bread too many" scenario leading to weight gain over the course of years is possible, and depressingly common.

      Your "one slice too few" scenario is not going to happen. First of all, if you find yourself short by 100 calories a day, you are going to get hungry more often. This will lead to you eating more, thus making up the shortfall. Second, if you find yourself short by 100 calories a day and _don't_ eat more, your body will automatically take steps to reduce calorie consumption. Basically the only way you are going to waste away by maintaining a slight caloric shortage is if either you deliberately set out to do so (or someone else does so to you), or if there's something wrong with you.

      So while the simple equation of
      Weight gain = calories consumed - calories expended

      is true, the complication is that calories expended is a function of calories consumed, and vice versa. Therefore you get nonlinear behavior, including things like "set points".

    8. Re:Don't exercise, for god's sake by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Here, again, there's lots of good studies that say that this does not hold. Many fat people go on diets for years on end, eating 1500 calories per day, yet their bodies refuse to drop below a certain level. Eating 1500 calories is very hard, but these people have strong wills. They're not gluttonous moral weaklings.

      There's a name for 90+% of people who claim they eat some very small amount of calories a day, and are still obese.

      That name is "liar". Or "self-deluding fool" to be nicer. Follow them around and you'll find that they're eating stuff which they don't count.

  167. Bungee Cords by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm a thin guy as well, and I've found that the best workout for me personally (as far as muscle tone is concerned) is just pulling on bungee cords. Most exercises you do with free weights get easier as you progress through the rep, not harder like with bungee cords (or a bowflex).

    There are a lot of great things about this kind of workout. It's super cheap. Bungee cords are a couple of bucks each at most. You can do it almost anywhere. You just need something to latch the bungee cords onto. I do it at the park in the early morning on the playground equipment. Perhaps the best thing is that you can work out almost any muscle group you want to with the same equipment...you just have to modify your motion.

    Some tips from my experience:

    Try to make an explosive yet controlled movement on the "up" phase, and return to the starting position slowly.

    Make a couple of cord handles. Just get some PVC pipe or something and thread some rope through it, then tie the rope in a loop.

    The cords are great for the sides of your core, but not so great for the normal abs. For that, I like to hang from a bar, bend my legs completely so my feet are touching my butt, then (while trying to hold that form of my legs), crunch your abs and bring your knees up to about shoulder height.

  168. Hackers Diet (and exercise program) by smalltalker · · Score: 1

    http://www.fourmilab.ch/hackdiet/

    Has online and Palm tools to track you weight and completion of their exercise ladder, based on exercises that can be done in a small space with no equipment.

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  169. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Comment removed based on user account deletion

  170. Anonymous Coward by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Get a job in a IT department in a HUGE building. You'll be running around like a mad man all day. Works for me.

  171. Marital arts by John+Guilt · · Score: 1

    When I applied for grad school at the University of Chicago in 1983, their catalogue claimed that they had "marital arts" courses.

    Cool, but I still don't want to do them in front of other people.

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  172. Just get outside and run damnit by lewp · · Score: 1

    Just get your ass outside and run.

    I'm introverted, and shy (not the same thing), and I went through the whole "I don't want people to look at me" thing, too. Being 60lbs overweight didn't help, either. Not wanting to be seen was one of the excuses I used to use for not exercising like I should. Get past it, and do it anyway, because it's worth it.

    If it bothers you that much, just run early in the morning or late in the evening. Or go find yourself a secluded area or trail to run nearby. After a few weeks, when you stop dreading your runs, and when you start making real gains in your distance/speed, you'll stop caring if other people see.

    I like swimming even better, especially because it's 90+ most days when I go running now; but since you have to get half naked for that, and the facilities aren't as readily available as a sidewalk, you should just start with running. Besides, running is one of those fundamental movements that you should be relatively proficient at because it opens up a whole lot of other fun activities for you.

    Anyway, the internet is full of people in your shoes (or much worse off) who have gotten themselves in great shape (I'm not there yet, but I can look in the mirror without being ashamed now). You just have to decide you want it enough to make the first few steps until it becomes enjoyable. Start now. That's the beautiful thing about running: you can do it whenever and wherever you are.

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    1. Re:Just get outside and run damnit by markov_chain · · Score: 1

      I second that. Remember: once you get into great shape nobody will know or care what you used to look like.

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    2. Re:Just get outside and run damnit by iivel · · Score: 1

      Very important: If you're running outside (or running at all) ... get good shoes for your instep, watch how your legs (knees/feet/shins) feel and pay attention to your body. Running can be incredibly hard on the joints and if you haven't been exercising the last things you want are stress fractures, tendon overuse injuries or shin splints. They are uncomfortable.
      Personally (since I have some old sports injuries to nurse) a treadmill and TV set up in the house was the best investment I've ever made. Walking at a moderate speed uphill (3.5 mph at a 7 degree incline) is easy to do for the duration of a movie and still rips off over 600 calories / hr.
      Also (and its already been said in this thread) you diet is very important. Space out meals and eat 5-6 times a day. Remember that every pound of fat contains 3500 food calories. If you want to drop a pound a week you MUST run a calorie deficit of 500 calories a day. You can do this through exercise, diet, or more effectively a combination of both. I'd reccomend using a simple program or website to track your intake so you know where your calories come from, and hopefully you can find where you're "cheating". Sparkpeople.com and fitday.com are both reasonable choices for free online utilities to do just that.
      Weight control is a simple matter of calories in vs. calories out. Though simply adjusting your caloric intake will start a weight loss your BMR will adjust for the new levels of macronutrients and your diet must continually adjust as well. Aerobic exercise will burn the most calories per hour, and resistance exercises will build / tone muscle mass to increase your BMR. Though ANY 1 of these will help control weight, you cannot maintain muscle mass without proper resistance exercise and protien intake. Do all three. If you have the space a "Smith machine" is worth the investment. You can get many more exercises in, with much less risk of injury. I went cheap for my first one http://www.trainersecrets.com/smith_machine/weider_smith_machine.htm + a set of olymipic plates and a set of adjustable dumbells is just about everything you really need. Add in a good treadmill and your total cost is 1 bedroom + $2K
      Lastly: As has been said in this thread, motivation is difficult on your own. Thankfully I have my wife to work out with...it is a great way to start and end the day. If you don't have a support system, or someone to keep you going - consider signing up for a gym membership until you've got the habit started and you're happy with your routine.
      My 2 cents...YMMV.

  173. Re:Right idea, wrong approach. by icegreentea · · Score: 2, Informative

    STOP lifting weights? What kind of silly advice is that? A proper workout incorporates aerobic and anaerobic workouts. That being said, its entirely possible w/ weight training to keep your heart rate insanely high for 15-20 minutes straight. It's called circuit training. Basically, you chain exercises together. So if your doing body weight exercises, you could do pushups, situps, burpees, dips, chinups (or w/e you want), repeat 3 or four times. By the end, you'll be dying, your heart rate will be skyhigh, and most likely be dizzy. But you've burned your calories. And you will get stronger.

    On that note, if you have space you can try hanging a heavy punching bag and working it. Find someone who knows proper technique, have them teach you, ask them for a nice routine to follow (eg:3x3 minute rounds with 40 seconds breaks in between).

  174. this is what i've done... by glitch23 · · Score: 1

    I've stopped drinking pop (soda), at least most of the time. I still go to fast food restaurants sometimes but I've tried to take my lunch to work. When I do go to a fast food restaurant I will get pepsi to drink or if I go out on weekends I'll do the same but I try to make it a special occasion so I cut down on the carbs. I can keep 5 pounds off just by sticking to water. I try to drink water now as much as I can especially at work with my lunch. I haven't changed my diet totally yet but I'm working on that.

    As far as my workout, I used to do just weight machines but I started to use the treadmill too. On the treadmill I started by walking for 20 min then I gradually worked my endurance up so that now I can run 25 minutes straight at 6mph (that's over a 4 month period of building endurance). Not record breaking but it burns about 350 calories and if your daily intake is low and you are building muscle (which burns more calories than fat) then your overall caloric intake may end up being negative. I read that having a negative caloric intake of 1000 calories burns 1 pound of fat over any time period. Keep that in mind if you are running the numbers.

    It helps to do a workout everyday, at least for cardio, but for weight training you need a good day's rest. I think the secret is changing your diet to more protein and less carbs if you haven't already. Some diets recommend 25 carbs per meal with 3 meals and 3 snacks a day. If you already are okay in that area then as soon as you start working out and/or doing cardio workouts then you are sure to lose weight, possibly a few pounds a week depending on how much you push yourself.

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  175. become a yoga n00b by xactuary · · Score: 1

    I started a yoga practice about five years ago, joining my wife who's been doing yoga for many years and I've come to like the metaphysical aspect to it in spite of myself. Oh, and I'm almost always the only guy in the room, which is cool. Yoga is cheap, beneficial and easy to maintain in anyone's schedule. Namaste.

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  176. Easy by CptPicard · · Score: 1

    I have this routine with my wrist that burns a lot of calories each time I do it, I'm sure... www.free6.com is a great source of workout material.

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  177. Walking by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've derived more benefit from walking than any other form of exercise. If you live in a good walking neighborhood, make yourself walk to as many errands as possible: walk to the supermarket, walk to the post office, walk to the bank, etc. When you have to drive somewhere, deliberately park far away to make yourself walk further. Don't take the elevator when there are stairs nearby. (If you have to climb a prohibitive height, consider taking the elevator part way and using the stairs for the last few floors). It also helps if you can make a longer walk a priority during your day. I reached a point where I decided a longer (4-5 mile) walk was an essential part of my day both for my mental and physical health. I had the luxury of being able to make that assertion with minimal consequence. YMMV.

  178. Is it that hard? by NerveGas · · Score: 1

    Buy some dumbbells. Add military presses, curls, and "rambo rows".

    But you need some cardio, too. Either get the treadmill/walker/skier/whatever that you like, or... you're going to have to go outside.

    What makes biking even more fun for me is putting my kid in a bike trailer, and running errands with him... but it sounds like that isn't really compatible with your situation.

    And if you can get past your fear of people, find a nice girl, and have sex until you both drop.

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    1. Re:Is it that hard? by gregbot9000 · · Score: 1

      seriously I just looked Rambo rows up on Google: nothing. Not even fan fiction "Rambo rows into the camp silent as night and makes love to the general," or whatever the fuck people write on the internet.

    2. Re:Is it that hard? by NerveGas · · Score: 1

      Huh. What do you know. I've always heard them called that.

      here you go.

      It's a fairly quick and easy way to hit lats and biceps without having to find a place to do pullups.barbell row

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  179. It's all about lifestyle changes by spamania · · Score: 1

    If you can stick to doing push-ups and sit-ups regularly, more power to you, but I wouldn't bother too much with any of the advice regarding work-out routines, weights or even jogging. That stuff is boring, and the average person doesn't stick with working out for very long.

    Wanna know the secret to my toned nerd body? Sports. That's right, just like the jocks play. As much as Slashdotters love to play up the pasty-faced, 2-liter-of-Mountain-Dew-and-bag-of-Doritos geek stereotype, it's actually a bunch of horse%$@#. Pick up a sport or two, and you won't have to think about how much cardio you're getting or whether you're sticking to your workout. You'll stay thin and healthy because you have passions that keep you active.

    Pick some sports that your friends do and ask if they'll teach you. Or just go for something. Could be an individual thing, like surfing or biking, or a team sport like soccer or softball (you'd be amazed by how active even softball can be). Once you're hooked on it, then you'll lose the pounds and feel better generally.

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  180. forget the Wii by Singularitarian2048 · · Score: 1

    There's no secret that makes this easy.

    Go run for half an hour on a treadmill every other day. Start slow--slow enough that you can go for half an hour. Build up speed over time.

    If that's boring, a more fun option is to play raquetball four times a week.

    Whatever you do, make sure your shirt is drenched in sweat by the end of it.

  181. Slashdot-standard.:) by MrShaggy · · Score: 1

    Type one handed. Alternate days.

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  182. Simple by joanofclark · · Score: 1

    If the goal is to keep the excess weight off then it's really quite simple. Burn more calories than you take in.

  183. very simple process by no-body · · Score: 1

    45 minute "walk" every day in rural area.
    GPS in pocket to track route.
    Digital Camera/Cell Phone in pocket to record whatever is worth it - can also be used to threaten cars on crosswalks to stop for you by pointing it in the oncoming car's direction.
    Heart rate monitor (Polar-type) running to stay in elevated HR range and dump data onto computer to see how we are doing - calories burnt, HR curve, exercise calendar etc.
    Keep HR elevated between 65 and 75 % of max HR (can be determined in serveral ways - does actually not matter much which way).
    HR monitor can be set to beep when in/out of target range.
    If you get too much out of the upper range in one run, notch the HR window up by 5 clicks.
    If you get too much out of the lower limit in one run, notch the HR window down by 5 clicks.
    Try to keep the HR in the middle of the two limits.
    Keep serval ranges in HR monitor to switch to one's liking (sometimes not feeling too well or having a lot of juice).
    Several challenges can arise - some may be related wanting to go faster - even run?:
    - actually meet friendly people doing similar activities
    - need to increase route due to speed increase
    - need to change route due do getting bored
    - weather, need to adjust to cold/warm rain/snow
    - injuries - can happen
    - overexcercising
    - getting greedy in attaining higher heartrates
    etc.
    Takes one hour/day and it's self-perpetuating/addictive after about 1 month i. e. gives so much juice to one's live that one does not want to stop.
    I am on it for over a year now and think the actual challenge is to integrate the routine into one's life - midnight or early morning and to get over the first month to feel the boost.
    Interesting side-effect: My aim at the waste basket surprisingly got much better.

  184. Some notes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    First, reconsider going to the gym - it's perhaps the easiest way to get in shape. If your current shape is a big part of the reason why you don't want to work out in front of others, it may be a great motivational tool for you to keep headed to the gym. The more you're there, the better you're going to look. You can wait to join the gym for pretty people until you're back in shape.

    Second, for pure calorie burning, extended aerobic exercise is the best thing. I would never run on concrete, but a treadmill will absorb a lot of the impact and therefore is much better (swimming is the best). I like to warm up for around 10 minutes walking at a fast pace and cool down by walking a similar amount and run for an extended period in between. Even at my beginner's pace and lasting only about 15 minutes, doing it three times a week will burn almost a half pound of fat per week. Walking will burn calories, too, but it won't get your body in as good of an overall condition.

    Third, consider doing occasional weight lifting regardless of whether your goal is to get in shape, lose weight, gain muscle, or what-not. The Mayo Clinic has some helpful advice on their site, including things like doing one set of 12-15 reps* and some videos on proper form, such as NOT bringing the weights down near your chest when doing a bench press. Pick a weight where you'll work to failure (unable to lift again) in the goal number of reps. Doing just press-ups and sit-ups isn't that great for you, in part because you're not working out your muscles evenly. This past year I'd been having the occasional leg cramp even though I normally never did and I drink water like a fish; then I thought to start doing leg weight lifting and have yet to have a recurrence of cramping. *If your muscles get as big as you want, then you can add reps or sets.

    Finally, I like to do some yoga. Even with weight lifting, I've been gaining flexibility.

    Altogether, I work out around three times a week and the routine itself is maybe 1:15 minutes long with me only doing either upper or lower body weight lifting on a particular day. You'll see a major change even if you only work out for 45 minutes: around 20-25 minutes on the treadmill, 15 minutes weight lifting (since you're only doing one set per exercise, don't rest in between except the bare minimum), and around 10 minutes for stretching.

  185. I occasionally change hands. by One+Childish+N00b · · Score: 1

    eof.

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  186. Home workouts by CBLynx · · Score: 1

    Although home workouts can be done, and done well - in my (experienced) opinion, it's often better to get yourself down to the gym. I've always found that when I train at home, I eventually lack the motivation to carry on working out at home, but if I joined a gym - I'd feel I should go there because I'm actually paying for it. Also, once down there, I'd feel that I had to actually get a decent workout to make the commute worthwhile.

    You'd be surprised how easy it is to find a good local gym, without all the muscle heads screwing up the atmosphere these days, and you'd be surprised how effective a good 30 to 45 minute workout is during a lunch break, provided it's done maybe three or so times a week (provided you can't make the gym after work).

    However, as you said that making it to the gym isn't exactly your cup of tea, a good website is:

    http://fitness.scoobysworkshop.com/

    I can honestly clarify that Scooby does provide some good information, and provided you study the technique and take the time to do some good reading, you should understand the proper concepts and technique - which after all matter most. Also, I'm not trying to wein you into becoming a body builder, I'm just saying that more muscle really does help. Not just socially, and mentally - but the more muscle you have, the more calories you burn doing nothing at all! :P

    I'm just as much of a geek as any other guy, but I'm also a qualified fitness instructor and personal trainer - so I know how to stay fit. Good luck.

    -Lynx

  187. Furious pacing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Works wonders.

  188. Russian Kettle Bells... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My brother turned me on to Russian Kettle Bells. They're a form of free weight, but because of their handles, you can swing them around using your core body muscles. Very good for getting very strong, and it can be aerobic...

  189. walk it off by Jerry+Rivers · · Score: 1

    Just get a treadmill and do two or three miles a night, every night. Don't skip days. You need at least thirty minutes of exercise a day. Take some vitamins, and eat something every couple of hours (not a full course meal.

    There is no real need to go out at all as long as you get stay active and eat consistently and in moderation. Try to avoid the obvious pig-out foods like pizza or cheetos.

    You will lose weight over a long period of time, so don't expect spectacular losses. If you lose a pound a month you'll be doing fine and in a year you'll have lost quit a bit.

    My two cents.

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  190. One Saturday at M.I.T.... by John+Guilt · · Score: 1

    ...I was looking for the Shotokan (S.K.A.) practice session. I saw a bunch of people warming up in a a very familiar way...but they had coloured belts, so I thought, "Nope...J.K.F. or some other Shotokan group."

    Next, I saw some guys in gis, and only black, brown, and white belts...but then I saw that their moves were kind of slinky....hmmm, Kyokushin, Oyama's people.

    Next, a big group repeatedly kicking at shoulder-height or higher, coloured belts. Tae-kwon doh. Another bunch of people kicking at shoulder height...Tai Kwon Do? Some people in gis I couldn't place _at_all_. Some Chinese practitioners, I think they were Wutang.

    Finally, I found my group...but before then, I thought, "There's something about M.I.T. that makes you want to put on a costume and KICK THINGS."

    (Next: Back at Caltech, watching veteran and inveterate dopers and acid heads come back to practice after a few years, looking pleased and desperate.)

  191. diverse training? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I highly recommend running and weight lifting.

    I've been able to lose a fairly significant amount of weight by running 6 days a week and weight lifting 4 days a week.

    I've recently added yoga and pilates to my routine thanks to my Nintendo DS and Konami, but it's too early to see any benefits from either.

    But that's just what has worked for me. Try a variety of exercises and find what works for you.

  192. Late night, with a friend. by IanDanforth · · Score: 1

    Gyms can be intimidating, but they are much better late at night. Way less crowded and with a group that is pretty focused.

    Find someone who wants to get in shape, a 24 hour fitness, and hit the gym 2-3 times a week. The most important thing is going regularly, even more important than what you do when you get there.

  193. Technical explanation; didn't rtfa. by SignOfZeta · · Score: 3, Interesting

    According to my high school biology teacher, this is true. Muscle cells are rich in mitochondria, which constantly consume "food" to create energy -- hence, burning calories. Weight training leads to more muscle cells. More muscle cells leads to more mitochondria. See where I'm going? (Disclaimer: I'm no scientist. Well, a computer scientist. But that doesn't apply here.)

  194. Parkour! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Parkour. Most exercises require only an urban landscape and a minimum of equipment.

  195. Lifestyle Change, Diet, and Biology by xdancergirlx · · Score: 1

    First off, it is good to keep in mind that men's bodies are programmed to do that as they get older (look at most men over 40). Dieting and exercise routines are one thing but what you really need to do for long-term and sustainable body change is to look at your whole lifestyle.

    Rather than trying to force yourself to go to the gym 3 times a week, get involved in something that you have an interest in that involves physical activity. Ballroom dance/Swing dance/Tango dance is amazing for this. You get to meet people in an environment where the goal is not just to socialize like at a bar or something, your are being very physically active but not in a way that will tire you out, I promise it will invigorate you. On top of that, it will improve your posture and self-confidence. Who knows, you might even make some really great friends! I used to teach it and let me assure you that there are plenty of geekier sorts there (I swear half the men are engineers and 25% are computer programmers). Walking to work, around downtown, to get the groceries, walking the dog for at least 30 minutes twice-a-day, etc. are good ideas. Don't make it a chore though, consider your daily lifestyle in such a way that you are active without "having to make an effort". If it is a struggle, you will give up eventually.

    Audio books at the gym definitely help for spending time on the treadmill. There are loads of science fiction and fantasy books on mp3/cd and it is a perfect opportunity to go through classics that you don't have time to sit down and read.

    Finally, think about your diet. Cutting down the amount of meat and dairy in your daily diet will work wonders. Eat lots of fresh produce and fruit, avoid things loaded with saturated fat. Try getting into pizzas without cheese on top (they are delicious). Find snack foods that you love, like cashews, almonds, dried cranberries, raisons, carrots, etc. and replace your less body-friendly snacks with them. If you don't cook much, try cooking more at home, it can be amazing fun (and intellectually stimulating too) and a way to really embrace healthier eating into your lifestyle.

    Finally, although I know you don't want to exercise in front of others, joining a casual club that gets together once a week to play frisbee, go biking, walking, golf, tenis, etc. can be a great way to be physical without forcing yourself too.

    Good luck, remember that you aren't alone and you can learn what not to do by watching other folks going through the same thing!

    1. Re:Lifestyle Change, Diet, and Biology by iivel · · Score: 1

      On the diet note...calcium helps pass fat through the stool - so keep the dairy & you can consume more total calories than you could otherwise. Ensure you have 3 servings of dairy daily.

      Meat is incredibly important for maintenance of muscle mass, but you don't need more than 1 serving of lean animal protien daily. Eat an oily type of fish once a week for Omega 3 fatty acids.

      Many people have said it before, but fitness and health start in the kitchen, not in the gym. See a dietician for your own needs.

      Sources abound for this info, so I'm going to be lazy and not post it (try the short articles here for a start: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sn/humanbody/truthaboutfood . I agree with everything else the xdancer said though.

  196. Wrong! by DaFork · · Score: 1

    A more heavily muscled person doesn't burn any more calories at rest.

    As a Certified Personal Trainer I can tell you that an increase in your lean body mass (LBM) does increase your metabolism. Just look at the formulas for calculating Basal Metabolic Rate.

    1. Re:Wrong! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      oooh. you know he's legit because he caps "Certified Personal Trainer". got him a certificate, from an Accredited Institute of Learning and Stuff (they advertise on books of matches, but at least it's a step up from men's room walls).

  197. Introverted Man's BF by mrtynlsn · · Score: 1

    I got a dog. He likes introverts and gets my heartrate up. Plus he indirectly socializes me, at the dog park. Who knew!?!

  198. HTFU and join a GOOD gym by benny_c · · Score: 1

    Nobody is really looking at skinny/flabby geeks. They are all looking at the hot chicks. The most serious people at the gym (the ones getting the results) are introverts too, at least for those few hours each week, and would prefer to be left alone while they train.

    7 or 8 years ago when I was in your position (self conscious about exercising) I decided that it was time to do something about my physical state. I found a gym that was affiliated with our local university hospital system (it was the cleanest of the 3 or 4 I looked at in my price range). I made an appointment with a trainer, learned a few exercises, and then began to go during off hours. I consider the gym membership to be one of my most worthwhile expenditures. Having that membership is encouragement to go, and gets me access to equipment that might not otherwise be available (e.g. power rack, a shitload of plates, dumbbells in a much wider range than practical for home, and so on.)

    Once you have pushed yourself into a routine, make a point of lifting heavy weights and eating real food (100 calories portions of junk food are still 100 calories of crap). Go easy at first. After a few months, switch said routine (google WSFSB). Don't be intimidated by new exercises and barbells and assorted machines. Watch other people, and if you have to, ask a staff member for instruction. Stick to compound exercises. The thigh abductor/adductor machine is for chicks wearing spandex.

    Finally, go have a look at t-nation.com. Skip the forums and just read the articles for now. Get a thicker skin if you are going to read the forums.

    The progress that comes with even just 6 months of decent gym time will absolutely change your life for the better. (Yes, you have to keep going.) Read up, lift heavy, eat real food, improve physique, become more self confident.

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  199. Rowing Machine! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I don't know why they aren't more popular--rowing machines are pretty awesome, and I really recommend them. They'll do both cardio and light resistance training for pretty much all of your muscle groups. They can be a gentle or tough workout, so they're well suited to pretty much any type of person.

    Of all the routines and whatnot that I've tried, the rowing machine has definitely had the biggest impact in my sense of physical well-being.

  200. Kimoodo - a healing martial art by moo-shim · · Score: 1

    There is another healing martial art that you can lose weight with. Kimoodo is much simpler than Tai-Chi and can be done sitting or standing. I have some paralyzed folks that do quite well. The founder started off paralyzed from the hips down from pain. I have lot 179 lbs in less than a year. You will sweat! http://www.kimoodo.com/ Disclosure is that I take classes from the man and work on his computers, but that pays for the classes :).

  201. Buy a rowing machine by gvc · · Score: 1

    [from http://ask.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=141278&cid=11855885 ]

    Mail order for $800.00 from Concept II [concept2.com]

    Rowing is low-impact, aerobic, and you can start
    as slowly as you like. 30 mins a day while you
    listen to the radio, watch TV, or just ponder your
    latest bug.

    The unit I mentioned above is suitable for
    beginners through elite athletes.

    Definite nerd appeal with a USB connection and
    a wireless heart monitor. Lots of builtin
    stats and uses a plug-in memory card.
    Regenerative power means a D-cell lasts years.

    I'm on my 2nd rowing machine (the first was
    a competitor but it did last a dozen years
    and thousands of kms). I'm about to hit 1000
    km on this one.

    No other $800 piece of exercise equipment will
    dissipate enough energy (without self-destructing)
    to give you a decent workout. You'd have to
    drop more than $3K to get a treadmill anywhere
    neare as durable. And getting on your feet to
    walk/run requires a lot more motivation than
    sitting down on the rower.

  202. Press On... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I do a mix of core exercises, walking, and weightlifting (any other geeks out there with a 350lb bench and 500lb squat?)

    The comments re: biking are spot on- you need to mix in some aerobic activity to keep the ol' heart pumping.

    Targeting the belly fat directly is a good idea; 60 press(push?)-ups is impressive, but 30 situps won't quite cut it. Look into other types of ab exercises and/or pilates.

    Yoga can also be rewarding tho depending on the style won't necessarily do much for the bodyfat, but many other benefits.

    Other than biking, none of these require major equipment and can be done at home. You can find plenty of resources on the web with instructions, including the Matt Furey link above.

    Good Luck!

  203. You *can* do it in front of a computer.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yeah, going outside is a great idea. But you *can* get fit staring at a screen. P90X is a great workout program on 12 DVDs, including free weights, bodyweight exercises like pull-ups and push-ups, plus kickboxing, plyometrics and power yoga. You can get it at beachbody.com ; they have several other programs too, if P90X is too intense, too time-consuming or just doesn't appeal to you.

    Yes, this is one of the programs that shows up on the late-night infomercials. Yes, the website and ordering process are high-pressure, high-hype, straight out of Saturday Night Live (remember the Bassmaster?). But the product (P90X) is real and is fantastic.

  204. Crossfit! by emphatic · · Score: 0

    Check out crossfit.com and you'll never do anything else again. Most other workout routines have no relationship to real "fitnes" at all. Crossfit is awesome!

  205. Sport by Repton · · Score: 1

    Find a social sport. It's a lot easier to get exercise if you can tweak your competitive spirit and hang around with other people.

    e.g. I know someone in her late 30s who recently took up ultimate frisbee. She lost a lot of weight and is loving it.

    (sports that involve running around are best. e.g. touch rugby, soccer, netball, ultimate -- I'm not sure what the sporting landscape is like in your part of the world)

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  206. Here's a simple trick for you! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why dont you investigate "body-building" techniques, you may be VERY surprised, what you find, I know I was stunned at how easy and quick it can be (and how effective!) - and I dont really need ANY equipment (just a doorway or a floor and my own body weight). For me, on average maybe 10 mins per day, with LOTS OF REST in between... could be a perfect match for your work! - Disclaimer: Of course, be careful with any new thing to not cause youself any harm or problems, consulting a suitably qualified medical professional would be wise...

  207. Standup desk by fluffykitty1234 · · Score: 1

    There are few people around my office with desks where they stand all day. I have no idea how much this helps, but I've got to think it's better than sitting on your bum all day.

  208. Comic book man to the rescue! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You, my friend, are the original skinny nerdling, and what nerd hasn't seen the ancient but still viable Charles Atlas Course in the ads going way back? Added bonus, follows your criteria of "can't exercise in front of people" and also it is efficient and cheap, no equipment needed.

    And, should you ever be forced out into the big blue room with the strong yellow light, and some drunk jock gives you crap, you can then kick his ass! What's not to like???

  209. Rike Your Bike by wikki · · Score: 1

    I just recently started cycling regularly. Cycling and computers go together very well. I have a computer on my bike! There are also lots of biking websites to plan out your routes and log your distances.

  210. Warbiking! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Well what else did you expect from a Geek!??!

    Play Games + Bike (called warbiking if you're playing WoW, I guess, LOL)

    https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=20018948&postID=116188942821490256

    1. Re:Warbiking! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sorry, forgot slashdot doesn't convert urls:

      Warbiking

  211. Cycling on a stationary bike, weights, walking by nickull · · Score: 1

    Three simple tips: 1. use a bike to get to meetings, go to the store 2. have weights in your office and use them while programs compile, during conference calls etc. 3. walk to get lunch every day. Why this combination? Weights grow larger muscles. Larger muscles need more calories so your base metabolic rate goes higher and burns more calories on a daily basis. The stronger muscles help avoid injuries if you go skiing, snowboarding etc. I use to be a world cup mountain bike racer before immersing myself in high tech. It just about killed me the first 3 years. Find balance - be happy - live longer and healthier.

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  212. Parkour by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That is, if you're not too far over the hill. Even the rudimentary skills are a good cardio work out with the added benefit of working muscles you never knew you had.

  213. that's exercise for some... by damn_registrars · · Score: 1

    I don't know why that would be offtopic. It certainly can build up a sweat and burn calories - which is generally the reason why people want to exercise, isn't it?

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  214. Aerobic Exercise. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Aerobics.

    Run / Walk / Swim / Bike. Doing toning exercises like push-ups / sit-ups WILL NOT help you keep weight off.

    If you're concerned about keeping off weight and maintaining a level, you need to work aerobics into your routine consistently.

    Granted I go to a YMCA in full view of people, I go 3 times a week and run for 30 minutes (usually 3 / 4 miles) and that seems to do the trick for me. Your milage may vary.

  215. Perhaps he should try this: by ya+really · · Score: 1

    Seems to work for xkcd guy

  216. Exercise Smarter by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Toning your muscles and staving off pounds are two entirely different things that must be accomplished in two entirely different ways.

    Pushups, situps, pullups, and squats, all exercises that can be performed without weights in the comfort of your own home, will build muscle, but won't burn many calories and won't help you lose weight.

    To burn calories and keep off the fat, you need aerobic exercise, that means stuff that gets your heart beating and your brow sweating. The two exercises that will burn the most calories in the least amount of time are running/jogging and swimming.

  217. Start smoking by Anonumous+Coward · · Score: 1

    Smoking accelerates your metabolism, stimulates your brain and can be done without leaving the monitor. What else can a geek wish for?

    1. Re:Start smoking by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not getting emphysema for one

  218. Pick up a recreational sport? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've always been a sports fan myself. I particularly love hockey. (Yes, make fun of the hockey fan.)

    About a year ago, I joined a recreational dekhockey league, and I've played every week since. I'm still young and all, but, it's definitely a workout. But you can find all sorts of recreational sports leagues around major cities, and meet all sorts of cool people.

    Yes, this may involve some looking like an idiot, but hey, it's more fun than you think it'll be.

  219. Yoga, Cardio and Plyometrics by einer · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Yoga (hire a tutor if you want) and Plyo can easily be done in the home.

    Most people don't need free weights, they are all the weight they need. See here for specific exercises and examples.

    Start with the Sun Salutations (lots of youtube links, but be sure an actual instructor sees you do it before you begin your practice). Flexibility and range of motion is important. Relax into the stretch, don't actively stretch. Learn to breathe (yeah, I know, sounds dumb, but most people do it wrong... diaphramatic breathing aides in relaxation among other things, and is more efficient). Move on to (any of a dozen different kinds of) pushups, canoe/reverse canoe, one-legged squats, wall sits. Start walking in the morning before your shower.

    Change it up. Your body adapts really quickly to stress loads it has experienced before. The hardest part about working out isn't exertion, it's figuring out what to do and how to do it.

    Also, before you start trying to get ripped by maxing out and doing pyramids, keep in mind that time under tension is far more important than percent of maximal effort, and you can efficiently tear muscle down with less injury risk just by dropping the weight and increasing the rep duration.

    Supplements are a waste of money. The correct diet is safer and far more efficient. Don't overdo the protein grams. Most people get too much protein as it is (and not nearly enough fiber, dark leafy greens and good fats).

    Also, give the Shangri-la diet a try. It worked for me.

  220. Exercise while playing WoW (or browse the web) by tonto1992 · · Score: 1

    I actually have rigged up a PVC pipe frame on my wife's elliptical machine, so I can put a board up, and set my laptop on it, then commence WoW! Not only does it help with the repetition of doing daily quests, but it quickly passes the time where I might find myself walking on it for 90 minutes or more, and not even realize it. I can now balance myself well enough that I've healed a few 5-man instances while doing it. That's how this geek gets his exercise. I can post an URL with the pictures of said elliptical if anyone responds to this post with interest.

  221. Let me translate that for us true nerds by infernalC · · Score: 5, Funny

    cosin() is more fun than sin()...

    1. Re:Let me translate that for us true nerds by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, that's cotangent is asymptotically more fun than sin.

    2. Re:Let me translate that for us true nerds by DoctorFrog · · Score: 1

      If you do it outdoors in the sun, you get a tan() into the bargain!

    3. Re:Let me translate that for us true nerds by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      your cousin is more fun than sin?
       

    4. Re:Let me translate that for us true nerds by i_liek_turtles · · Score: 2, Funny

      Maybe in Alabama.

  222. Take up introductory dance classes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Take up introductory dance classes (at the local community college, for example). Dancing is fun and good exercise. Chances are high everyone else in the class is just as inexperienced as you, so you don't have to worry about how your dance skills compare. They usually rotate partners, so you don't need one. In fact, there tends to be a shortage of leads in the classes, so if you're a lead, you'll have more than enough partners. It's a good way to meet people, and ("this is slashdot" stereotypes aside) women dig guys who can dance.

  223. Re:Right idea, wrong approach. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Stop lifting weights. It will not necessarily burn fat. You need
    an aerobic workout. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aerobic_exercise

    Walk, jog or run if you can. Swim. Bicycle. Basically, get
    your heart rate up for at least 15 minutes at least once a day.

    And, as always, see a doctor or an accredited professional before
    you try anything new.

    why not do both? i lift weights and run and bike. stop lifting weights HA

  224. Shovelglove by PeterP · · Score: 1
    I actually just ran across this the other day: http://www.shovelglove.com/

    Aside from the stupid name, it seems to be a decent workout, and the 14 minute strategy is pure genius. Given the number of people claiming success on the forums, it might be worth a shot.

    Worst case,at least you end up owning a sledgehammer.

  225. The Hacker's Diet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Is exactly what you need. It details an exercise regimen that can be performed anywhere you are, without anyone else knowing if you don't want them to, can be performed in 15 minutes or less, and ramps up as you get more fit.

    You can find an online copy of The Hacker's Diet here.

  226. Next on Slashdot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Pot asks kettle how to turn white.

  227. George Jetson by Nethead · · Score: 1

    I quit the George Jetson life-style. After years of sitting in front of monitors pushing buttons and eating Chinese for lunch I got my 5'4" self to 200lbs; the only heavy lifting I did was racking routers and severs every-so-often.

    Now (since I have my mortgage paid off) I don't have to make the six-figures and took a blue-collar job installing DirecTV systems. It's still kind of geeky and requires good trouble-shooting skills so my mind is still active. But no more pagers off-hours, no budget forecasts, no longer am I the only one that can take care of a problem (we have about 100 I&R techs in my shop.) Hauling ass all day with ladders, dishes and cable outside in the weather (Puget Sound rain), training customers on how to use their TV, each job is a new challenge. And I've lost 30lbs in the last year and don't get winded ever.

    All I'm saying is that it's worked out great for me. I interact with new people everyday, have a nice ladder-van to take home that is full of RF toys, have a great excuse to buy "tools" and am actually damn happy most of the time. I may be tired when I get home but my home-life is great now that I don't bring the job home with me.

    Hell, cheap beer is even starting to taste good!

     

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  228. How do Geeks Excersize by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Well, being an introvert, you can always get yourself a treadmill, so you don't have to go out in public, then hook your treadmill up to drive a generator and your computer to the generator. That way you'll have to work out to play on your computer. (ha ha) You'll lose weight in no time.

  229. Check out Crossfit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Check out crossfit.com. I've been doing it for a few years now and have see big improvements in fitness, even after just a few months. Not only that, but according to Wikipedia, it's based on open source philosophy.

    It's a combination of weight training and cardio work. It's constantly varied and focuses on functional movements, so it'll make you better at real life. Who couldn't use a +1 mod to STR, CON and DEX in RL? It might even bump up the old charisma.

  230. subject by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Eliptical machine. Podcasts. Discipline to do it 20 days per month. It works.

  231. The Big Blue Room by techno-vampire · · Score: 1

    Getting out in the Big Blue Room is always a good idea. If you drive to work, don't park right next to the entrance to your building; park a bit out where you have to walk a ways, both morning and evening. If you don't work too high up, use the stairs, not the elevator. On weekends, get in the habit of going for a walk, at least once a week, if not twice. You don't have to go a long distance, especially at first, but try to work up until you're going a mile or two at a time. It's not hard, and in good weather it can be very pleasant, but it helps you keep in shape and burns off some extra calories. For that matter, if you don't live that far from the market, walk there and back instead of driving. After a month or so of this, you'll wonder why you weren't doing this years ago.

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  232. Put a treadmill in front of your computer by kawabago · · Score: 1

    Put a treadmill in front of your computer instead of a chair. The Masai have a high fat, high protein diet just like North Americans but they don't get heart disease as a result. The recently discovered reason is that they walk and stay on their feet all the time. No word on their fix for fallen arches though.

  233. Stairs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hi there,

    I feel your pain. Like you, I don't have much of an opportunity to exercise, but I do what I can. I've found that running stairs can be great for your cardio and both for toning your midsection and lower body. If you don't need big shoulders or a manly chest, then this activity alone should be good to really get your heart racing. Your weight loss will depend on your metabolism but I've found it to be quite significant.

    I have a set of about 10-12 stairs in the basement of our house. I run up/down as many times as I can. The first few times set a goal of something like 20 times, see how you feel then work from there. The idea is to keep increasing so by the end of the set your legs feel heavy and weak. Your heart will get a good workout too and you'll see your stamina increase quickly. Your whole legs and your butt will get a solid workout so you might be able to now spend more hours sitting on your new buns of steel :)

    If you live in an apartment building, go to the stairs, and just run the floors. The more floors you can do, the better. If you run out of floors, run back down to cool down and relax the legs, then run the stairs again.

    Hope this helps. It's quick and dirty and does the job really well! Won't need more than 15-20 minutes a day and can do it every other or every few days :)

    P.S. When you finish the last set, don't just stop. You might pass out or feel sick. Instead, ease your body out of it by running on the spot lightly, just to keep the body moving. As you get your breathing and heart rate back under control, you can start walking around, and eventually stop. Just a friendly caution. I found out the hard way :D

  234. YMCA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The YMCA I go to is full of people who are out of shape or recently were. They are friendly and supportive, unlike the high school classmates who may have taunted in the past. Personal trainer session at no cost can help you map out a program that is right for you, and help assure you are "doing it right".

    1. Re:YMCA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I hear it's fun to stay at one.

  235. my regimen... by ssintercept · · Score: 1

    eight ball and a hooker every weekend.

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  236. Suggestions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You can get into pretty good shape with vigorous calisthenics and some form of aerobic activity. I'd suggest getting a door-mounted pull-up bar if you're going to stick with the pushups/pullups at home. But 60 pushups/30 situps is not adequate.. keep working up the reps.

    Buy some running shoes for the aerobic exercise. Or jump rope for a long time.

    If you've ever been interested in martial arts, and are able to get over your introversion, check out something like Krav Maga. A big part of Krav is mental conditioning, and there is a big focus on calisthenics that is similar to paramilitaristic training (I've had extensive experience with both.) A good Krav school will push you beyond your limits, and you'll get a great workout there. Plus, they'll turn you into a complete animal if you stick with it -- what could be better?

    (Muay Thai boxing is also suitable for this type of conditioning, btw.)

    And, for heaven's sake, don't do tai chi as someone else recommended. That sh!t just ain't cool.

  237. Hacker's do it this way. by jrivar59 · · Score: 1

    I'm not sure how geeks do it, but hackers do it by following the hacker diet of course:

    Hacker's Diet

    Complete with exercise routines!

  238. 60 press-ups/30 sit-ups? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This post isn't just advice; it's also a good argument against getting nutritional advice from an online forum.

    Don't treat exercise like a chore; get into the mindset that it's a form of entertainment and you're set. Any time I feel tired/bored, do 50 crunches, 50 presses, one minute of running in place, and (if my calves allow it) 200 jumps.

    If you just want to lose 'weight' and don't care about endurance or appearance, you could also start limiting caloric intake and make up for it with a multivitamin. Also, check the 'serving size' listed on foods. If it looks too small for the amount of calories, find something else (or eat that tiny serving and live with the hunger). Basically, get thinner through poor nutrition (400-600kcal/day).

    Keep in mind that the above advice will beat the shit out of you and possibly result in lost muscle mass (and thus make you look even more flabby). On the bright side, the scale will be much nicer to you.

  239. Gyms are still the best by Leemeng · · Score: 1
    All the equipment is already set up, there is more space available, and you don't have to worry about care and feeding of the equipment or the exercise area.

    While you can get by at home with just free weights and body exercises, there are certain muscle groups where you will have to resort to funky positions and additional effort if you don't have machines.

    Yea, I don't like "public exercising" much either. But if you have a flexi schedule, you can pretty much have the gym to yourself at non-peak hours on work days; most people only get in after work or during the weekends.

    Choosing a gym
    http://life.familyeducation.com/exercise/fitness/35978.html

  240. Farm Geek says... by Sparkle · · Score: 1

    C'mon out ya'll! Got plenty to get you in shape!

    Cutting and hauling wood...
    Shoveling and stacking manure...
    Digging in the garden...
    Chopping and burning weeds...
    Clearing path thru brush...
    Repairing barns and fences...

    Iffen you git around all of that, we'll come up with something more!

  241. Change your eating habits by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Having worked as a Technical Support rep sitting in a chair myself, I found myself gaining weight too. Before I started my first tech job, I weighed in at about 120 pounds (i'm a small guy). After a few years I seemed to just be gaining weight and eventually weighed in at 167 pounds at my peak.

    I later found out I had diabetes. The doctor wanted to put me on insulin and then decided that metformin may be good enough. I didn't want to become a pharmaceutical drug bag so I decided instead to change my life style and learn more about diet.

    You'd be surprised how effective cutting out sugary foods is at getting rid of weight. Prior to changing my diet, I exercised fairly frequently with almost no weight loss. Not only was I actually on a treadmill but my weight also felt like it was on a treadmill going no where fast!

    I found that diet alone has a much greater effect on weight loss than ANY amount of exercise. Not that exercise is a bad thing. But if you want to lose weight and fast, cut out all white bread, soda pop, chips, cookies, donuts, and other starchy foods. Also, drink water do not drink any fruit juice or iced tea as both are chock full of sugar and study after study have shown that insulin resistance causes weight gain. Even if you do not have diabetes, you will gain weight if your insulin is all over the map.

    So to lose weight cut out the sugary foods and especially the sugary drinks and drink only water, coffee (without sugar), or tea. Make sure to always eat breakfast. If you happen to like oatmeal, its a good choice for breakfast. Toast is a bad idea for a breakfast meal as are waffles as both are likely going to be made of white flour which is as bad or worse than sugar. The typical Eggs and bacon are not too bad as long as you eat bacon sparingly. Eggs, contrary to popular belief, are really not that bad for you. Butter is also not that bad for you and probably better for you than trans fat infested margarine.

    Cutting out hambuergers, french fries, and other fast foods would be a good idea as well. If you don't want to cut all these foods out, then at least reduce your consumption by at least 2/3. All of these foods are a sure way to the fat farm. I can't over emphasize the importance of diet. Too often magazines make it seem like you can lose all your weight by exercising. In order to lose just a few pounds through exercise you would have to work out for months at a constant steady pace to lose just a few pounds. It is far more efficient changing your diet.

    Think about it! Why did you put the extra pounds on in the first place? It's because you are taking in more pounds than you are using. So what makes more sense, reducing the extra energy intake or outputting a hell of a lot of energy to burn off the extra energy intake?

    As long as you are capable of even a small amount of self-control in your eating habits, dietary changes will yield far better results. If you then combine exercise into the picture, you will look like you did 10 years ago! I went from my 167 pounds down to 127 pounds in just 1 month of changing my diet!!!! That's a 40 pound decrease in 1 month!!!! That type of weight loss is almost completely unachievable through exercise alone. I certainly wouldn't have lost that much weight that fast if I hadn't changed my diet.

    So eat foods that are lower glycemic. learn about the Glycemic Index and even more importantly Glycemic load. Cut out anything that dramatically affects insulin levels. It won't tale long and you will lose 10, 20, 30, 40, 50 pounds or more depending on how much extra weight you have and how stringent you are with your diet.

    Of course, as always if you make such dietary changes make sure to consult your physician to make sure that you don't have any dietary deficiencies that could negatively impact your health if you cut out certain foods. But, in all likelihood, if you cut out the junk your health will improve and so will your weight. You'll look like you spent your life in a gym wh

  242. Hire an exercise bike. by jayegirl · · Score: 1

    I was starting to encounter similar problems a year or three ago, and I'm also pretty introverted. More than that, I got sick of the wasted hour spent getting to the gym, back again, and getting changed before and after.

    So I hired myself a stationary exercise bike -- I go pretty hard (HR 160) for 40 minutes, 3 times a week, generally in the mornings (apparently makes it easier to get into fat-burning time). I was doing 5 times a week when I was wanting to actively lose weight. I'm guessing that 3 times a week will do for maintenance.

    Beyond helping my weight and self-esteem and suchlike things, it means I actually feel healthier, get sick less, recover from nights of drinking better, and sleep better. Highly recommended.

    I hire the bike I've got, as I tend to sweat a lot, and salt's pretty corrosive in the long term. After I wear this bike out, I'll just get the rental people to replace it. You could just buy one, but which ever way you go, make sure you physically try it out first -- don't just buy online.

  243. Interval training by thestreetmeat · · Score: 1

    Learn about interval training and start doing it. Bike, run, whatever. Once you get used to it, really push yourself. Running at the same speed for an hour burns lots of calories, but doesn't increase your aerobic capacity much. Interval training does, and in doing so sets the stage for future weight loss. It's not much fun, but if you work hard, it will give you the best results.

    Push ups and sit ups are good (and can be used as your active rest phase during interval training) but if you want to add muscle, you need to do resistance training. Focus on exercises that work large muscle groups, like squats, bench presses, dead lifts, and pull-ups. Get a personal trainer for an hour to show you how to do them properly.

    Also, you're probably not eating often enough. Try to get 5 smaller meals per day, rather than 3 (or even worse, 2) big ones. Going without eating sends your metabolism down.

  244. From the Guy Who had a Heart Attack by twmcneil · · Score: 0

    Yeah, I had a heart attack recently. You could say I'm from the older SlashDot demographic. 52, not over-weight, just sitting my ass in front of the screen for too many years and some fair amount of heredity. Oh, did I mention smoking?

    IANAMP. I Am Not A Medical Professional. But I have learned a lot from the Rehab people.

    A. Don't try to do it on your own. Solicit the help of the trained professionals. They know what they are doing just like you know your computer shit. Get my drift?

    B. They will tell you to watch your heart-rate. 220 minus your age times 70%, 80% and 90% gives you a range of values to work towards - don't exceed the 90% mark. It's important to get the heart pumping once in a while as it helps to keep your circulatory system operating at it's peak efficiency, but it's also possible to over-do it.

    Having a heart attack doesn't necessarily have to change your life, but it could. Maybe for the better as in my case. It's up to you.

    Find a nice gym close by and take advantage of their assessment program. Don't wait until it's too late like I did.

    Now, Get off my lawn you youngins!

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  245. Maybe jogging at night or EARLY in the morning? by MojoStan · · Score: 1

    Most of the time I don't have the luxury of just getting out of the house/office. And being an introvert, I'm not enamored of the idea of exercising in full view of *shudder* people.

    Do any Slashdotters have a regular workout routine that can be performed in the privacy of the home to stave off those pounds?

    Restricting your workouts to the privacy of your home severely limits your good aerobic options unless you have the space and money for a treadmill or stationary bike which you might stop using a year from now. If you go that route, I'd start with Consumer Reports. If you're an American with a local library card, you can probably search and read CR articles at your library's web site.

    I can understand being a bit self-conscious when exercising. I can also relate to not having the luxury/time/means to commute to a gym or other workout location. That's why I jog (not run) almost every day starting from the front door of my home.

    During the winter months, I almost always jog in the dark because there aren't many hours of daylight, but I guess this can also work for introverts who don't like exercising in front of other people. The two main reasons I went from 170+ lbs to my current range of 135-145 (maintained for at least 5 years) are: (1) I stopped trying to run like I was training for competition, and (2) I stopped limiting my workout times to specific times of the day. I used to occasionally jog around midnight during my college days.

    Get a hat to hide your head, find a reasonably well-lighted 45-65 minute jogging route near your home, maybe get a head lamp. For early morning jogs, try some cheap lightweight exercise sunglasses.

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  246. Exercise with your geek friends by dchamp · · Score: 1

    Some things I've found:
    - Find forms of exercise you enjoy, because if you're bored or not engaged by it, it's hard to stick to it.

    - Many geeks have had a life-long aversion to the "jocks", and don't want to go to the gym, or play organized sports with them. So... don't. Exercise with your geek friends. Bike. Play Ultimate Frisbee or go disc golfing, hike, whatever. Start a nerd soccer league.

    I played soccer for years in an adult recreational coed league, and had a blast with it, until my knees couldn't take it any more. Now I bike with friends, and do some of the other things above.

    IMHO, bikes are a great geek exercise tool. They can be fun to geek out with gadgets, to tinker with if you want to, it's fun & easy to ride with your geek friends and talk about coding, or the latest games, or debate who's the better captain, Kirk or Picard. And as an aside, they can keep you in shape, and work as cheap transportation.

  247. Never Gymless by tahuti · · Score: 1

    Check articles (videos) on http://www.rosstraining.com/ and forums. If you find useful you can buy his Never Gymless, which covers mostly bodyweight exercises. If you are interested in a bit older free books check http://www.sandowplus.co.uk/

    1. Re:Never Gymless by tahuti · · Score: 1

      Oops, forgot to add for hardcore http://www.streetworkout.com/index.html

  248. Re:Tai Chi by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Doesn't address cardio

  249. Get Rollers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Several posters have mentioned getting out and biking. If you get a set of rollers, you don't even have to get out.
    Check out http://www.kreitler.com for the best rollers made.

    (Disclaimer: I have no financial interest in Kreitler Rollers, but I am a satisfied owner (since 1984)).

  250. one word by jaimz22 · · Score: 0

    masturbation

  251. No. Sorry. by John+Guilt · · Score: 1

    It doesn't, in my case. I used to do a lot of it, but decided that the life extension and health benefits weren't worth the nausea, dizziness, and depression that inevitably came with exercise, as well as the horrible feeling of wet skin.

    Fasting is easier.

  252. Rock Climbing by Dripdry · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I rock climb. My clients seem horrified or amazed at it, but I pull down rock like a mean SoB. It's mentally challenging, as each new problem has a unique solution, it's social but geeky (few people do it, lots of esoteric gear), and I get great exercise. I've been injured for the last year, though, so I run now, sometimes kayak. Climbing's for me, though. All that being outside in the fresh air with a good buddy or two? Sounds fratboy-ish, but with a physics teacher as a climbing partner we never run out of things to talk about.

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  253. Row :) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Get yourself a rowing machine, and use it.

    https://sensei.zenunit.com/

  254. simplest solution... by kaiocool · · Score: 0

    jump rope FTW

  255. DDR (Dance Dance Revolution) absolutely by vorpal22 · · Score: 4, Informative

    I have a health condition that makes it extremely difficult and stressful for me to leave the house to exercise... I do enjoy a good cardio workout, and was feeling quite unhappy about being unable to engage in a regular routinized exercise session that I enjoyed (because aerobics, yoga, pilates, etc. tapes just aren't that much fun to me), so I decided to see what the hype was about last Christmas and I picked up a DDR game.

    Now I'm an avid DDRer, and I must say that it can be a fantastic workout, especially if you play doubles (i.e. two mats) as you move your centre of gravity much more often, and if you work yourself up to the harder levels, which get you moving faster. I can burn an estimated 1000 calories per session, and those sessions just fly by because I'm really enjoying myself. You don't only see your improvement in the game, but the improvement in your appearance, too. My stomach is trim now, and I have that nice abdominal V that some fit people get.

    If you haven't tried DDR, I highly recommend it. Get a PS2 game, get a couple cheap mats, and give it a go. If DDR isn't your cup of tea, find an exercise routine that you can do at home that you enjoy so that you actually feel inclined to do it more than a few times. You'll never keep up a regime that bores, intimidates, or embarrasses you.

    1. Re:DDR (Dance Dance Revolution) absolutely by karmatic · · Score: 1

      Get a PS2 game, get a couple cheap mats, and give it a go.

      As you get better at DDR, the cheap pads start getting in the way. You can get some pretty decent metal pads, like the Cobalt Flux, or just go whole hog and get a thousand-pound arcade machine.

    2. Re:DDR (Dance Dance Revolution) absolutely by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The one thing I'd disagree with is your suggestion of cheap mats. A solid metal pad makes the game vastly more fun to play, and lets you move faster without having to develop all kinds of unhelpful skills to keep the pad from moving out from under you.

    3. Re:DDR (Dance Dance Revolution) absolutely by vorpal22 · · Score: 1

      I agree that eventually you want to get good mats (I'm using two RedOctane Ignitions now since the metal pads are difficult to get here in Canada unless you're willing to build your own and pay a fortune in shipping, and they're fine, even for doubles) IF you like the game, but I think for a beginner, cheap mats to find out whether or not DDR is your fancy are probably your best bet.

    4. Re:DDR (Dance Dance Revolution) absolutely by dubl-u · · Score: 1

      The one thing I'd disagree with is your suggestion of cheap mats. A solid metal pad makes the game vastly more fun to play, and lets you move faster without having to develop all kinds of unhelpful skills to keep the pad from moving out from under you.

      I think this is true for serious players, but you have to be pretty serious to buy one of those metal pads; they're pricey! I never would have started playing DDR if I'd had to buy one of those to get going.

      For just starting out, the cheap pads are enough to let you know if you like the game. And given that they are like 10% of the cost of a high-end pad, there's nothing wrong with starting cheap and then trading up.

    5. Re:DDR (Dance Dance Revolution) absolutely by frankgod · · Score: 1

      DDR is great and I've lost a lot of weight doing it. However, unless you played endless mode for 3 hours there's no way you burned 1000 calories in one session. The in-game workout calorie estimate is notoriously poor and is generally off by a factor of 5-10. I figure in about 8 cal/min, the same calorie burn as a brisk walk.

      The cheap mats are good to start out with. You can move up as you wear out your old mats. After playing over two years I now have two Cobalt Flux pads that will basically last forever.

    6. Re:DDR (Dance Dance Revolution) absolutely by ILuvRamen · · Score: 1

      OMG I LOVE DDR! Then again I get paid to be an expert at it :D I know, I know, dream job. I'm actually a DJ assistant and at youth dances as a gimmick and definite entertainment I vs someone on some completely mental song like Maxx Unlimited and beat then or fill in for people that do poorly and get like 200 combos. Anyway, my rough estimatations put that at like 700-1000 calories an hour if you're playing the right songs. It also got my heartbeat to within 9 BPM of dangerous (it was like 230 or something!) and I'm pretty well in shape! That's the only way to go, trust me. Btw if you're really cheap and don't wanna buy the proper consoles, get Stepmania. That's a free, possibly open source but I dunno for sure version of DDR not made by Bemani/Konami and you can download all the songs from every DDR version at ddruk.com. I've got like 600 songs or something so a daily workout is never boring. Oh yeah and play some really intense video game like Unreal Tournament. I'm no doctor but to get that hot and sweaty, I've got to turning some fuel into energy so it probably burns calories. It helps if you swear back at the characters though like WHAT'S UP NOW, BITCH?!

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    7. Re:DDR (Dance Dance Revolution) absolutely by itamihn · · Score: 1

      Completely agree. Last year I lost some kilos with it, and my ab became much harder.

      Also, my resistance and speed increased. And it is really fun!!!

      And now I can play "8-feet" songs! :)

      For PC, you have Stepmania, which is free, and much better than any of the PS2 versions.

      http://www.stepmania.com/

      There are also hundreds of free (legal) songs in Internet, ready to download.

    8. Re:DDR (Dance Dance Revolution) absolutely by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Definitely. I had DDR for the PS2, but now bought it again for the Wii, it's dirt cheap and comes with a pretty decent mat and everything.

      Yes it's dorky but if you're embarrassed, just close the curtains and get going.

      After bumping around for a month or two I thought I'd check my condition and went jogging for the first time since forever, and could easily keep going for 45 minutes (had to stop because knees started to hurt :)). So that thing really works (if you keep at it and ramp it up to Difficult or maybe even Expert), DDR is definitely not some fake-exercise for fat nerds who think they're working out by stepping around a bit -- it's serious business ;)

    9. Re:DDR (Dance Dance Revolution) absolutely by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Seconded. From 2001 through 2003 I played DDR almost constantly and was in the best shape of my life.

      Since 2004 my interest in the game has waned but my leg muscles are still something to behold. :)

    10. Re:DDR (Dance Dance Revolution) absolutely by _Zakaidek · · Score: 1

      There was a math major at the dorms I stayed at last year who was an avid DDR'r. Slim as a rod. He had been doing it since high school and was extremely fast. Not to mention that girls love it. If you really like it, you should probably eventually get rid of the ddr and by a solid ddr board. They range from about $50 to $100, but offer a much better surface. Personally I'm into martial arts. I have a red belt in Tang Soo Do, but I've recently doing some Krav Maga.

  256. Some suggestions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I try to eat healthy, play indoor soccer.

    I know exactly what you mean about having people look at you at the gym which is why I do group clases. I love dance music so I do bodycombat and bodypump

  257. Exer-what? by k2dbk · · Score: 1

    Exercise? You're new here, right?

  258. run. by frup · · Score: 1

    I just went for a 15 minute run. 3.2km. Using a laptop carrier like RMS you don't *need* to stop working! lol.

    Realistically though, I'm fit for a geek. My BMI is 20.2 (despite that not mattering for shit).

    Get some anklets and weighted bracelets and wear them around the office.

    1. Re:run. by Zwicky · · Score: 1

      Using a laptop carrier like RMS

      He'll really do that? Awfully nice of him. Is there a booking system in place or do I just call in or what?

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  259. posting could use "imnotfatjustbigboned" tag by ya+really · · Score: 1

    Seems like a suitable tag for the article. If not, you can lose calories while chasing me down to beat me with your keyboards.

  260. Re:Right idea, wrong approach. by izomiac · · Score: 1

    Maintaining muscle mass is a significant energy expenditure, about 50 calories per pound of muscle per day. For comparison, running for half an hour burns about 350 calories. It's certainly possible to lose fat through aerobic workouts alone, but it's not as efficient as doing a mixture of aerobic and anaerobic workouts.

  261. Constant Masturbation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There is lots of pron out there, so put it to good use...

  262. Swim, Run, Rest by DirtySouthAfrican · · Score: 1

    Set some goals. For instance, tell yourself you want to work up to 500m, or 10 laps in the pool, without rest. Don't worry that you can only do one or two right away. Shoot for 5k run, and again, don't worry if all you can do is alternatively walk for 5 minutes and run for 1 minute. Pretty soon you'll adapt, be eating like ten people, and feeling dead tired all the time. That, too, will pass =) Oh, and try to push yourself in other ways. I'm an introvert too, but the benefits of having a workout partner can't be overstated. Barring that, start a work-out journal and document your progress, even if the entries read "Too lazy to go out in the rain." =)

  263. Fight the problem by using the problem by franois-do · · Score: 1

    The best way I can conceive is to use one of these fixed bikes providing electricity (Ragonots,they are called here) as a power supply for your PC. In that way the more tou are in front of your PC, the more exercise you get in order to use it. I strongly suggest you use it coupled to a good UPS. Things should now stay at complete equilibrium :-)

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  264. Rock climbing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    1. Quit being a little bitch and go outside.
    2. Try rock climbing, there's an incredible amount of problem solving involved. There will most likely be a local indoor gym to go to.

  265. GeekFit by mrxinu · · Score: 1

    Being a geek and keeping your weight under control can be a HUGE pain. I started at 440 lbs and finally got down to 300 before bouncing back up to 360... and now heading back down. It takes a lot of work, but there's a method to the madness. Check out the podcast over at www.geekfit.com.

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  266. Re:Tai Chi by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Tai Chi, though, will not help you lose weight.

  267. "Shape of your life" by Paul Scott by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I highly recommend this program. There is a magazine article here: http://outside.away.com/outside/bodywork/200205/200205shape_of_your_life.html

    He also has a book-length version. http://www.amazon.com/Outside-Fitness-Comprehensive-Nutrition-Lifestyle/dp/0393059715/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1217387041&sr=8-1

    The program is varied, based on science and research, and is aimed to make you actually fit and healthy -- not lose weight or become some overmuscled freak.

    I was on this for six months and was indeed in the shape of my life. The workouts are varied, interesting, and effective.

    Then my second kid was born and I've suffered a set back. But it's a great program.

  268. simple by thebutterknife · · Score: 1

    do kung fu

  269. Re:Well not quite, BUT... Who needs a girlfriend by davidsyes · · Score: 1

    When you can use a jet-pack:

    http://entertainment.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/07/29/1929201

    and become "Rocketeer..."? The most seriously introverted (having no warm-blooded or cold-blooded biped/quadraped companion) can become "cockateers"...

    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0135216/

    Subtitles, supposedly, at:

    http://www.mysubtitles.com/movie/cockateer-the_79672.html

    (No, i have not seen it... yet or otherwise..)

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  270. Re:Right idea, wrong approach. by HairyCanary · · Score: 1

    You are completely wrong.

    http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1827342,00.html?cnn=yes

    Even 30 minutes does almost nothing.

    Weight lifting is much better than aerobics. It actually gives you cardiovascular benefits like aerobics does, plus a few:

    - Muscle burns fat even when you're not using it, where fat just sits there doing nothing at all. Your basal metabolic rate increases when you build muscle.

    - Everything you do, EVERYTHING depends on muscle, having more makes all of it easier.

  271. ...and a couple of MAJOR caveats by Anonymous+Brave+Guy · · Score: 4, Informative

    Those exercises are not for beginners, though. If you aren't already in pretty good shape, two of them are outright dangerous: the bridge will wreck your neck, and squats with the heels coming up will wreck your knees. And even if you're in good shape, I've never met either a qualified doctor, physio or professional sports coach who advocates bridging, because of the risk of neck injury.

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    1. Re:...and a couple of MAJOR caveats by Renraku · · Score: 1

      You can actually seriously injure your kidneys doing squats if you aren't used to them. Basically, the muscles aren't strong enough and tear more than they should. The torn muscles release toxic byproducts into the blood, which the kidneys filter out. If there's too many, they clog the kidneys and cause rapid kidney failure. Without emergency treatment, possibly a kidney transplant, you'll die. Rhabdomyolysis is the name of it..people have died from it in the past. It happens more with thigh muscle exercises.

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    2. Re:...and a couple of MAJOR caveats by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As the anon jock above, we used to do it for wrestling. However, we were in pretty damn good shape and we HAD TO HAVE strong necks or get hurt in matches. They are not for a beginner and especially not for someone without a coach.

      A modified back bridge, where instead of using the head, use the upper back as the 3rd base would provide some of the benefits though.

    3. Re:...and a couple of MAJOR caveats by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > I've never met either a qualified doctor, physio or professional sports coach who advocates bridging, because of the risk of neck injury.
       
      Hi. Nice to meet you. I am a licensed physician, and I recommend bridging.

      But, then, I am a pathologist.

  272. irony-dept by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The question was: "Do any Slashdotters have a regular workout routine that can be performed in the privacy of the home to stave off those pounds?"

    What's even better is over 400 have replied. Wouldn't you love to have a line-up & try to match to advice to those geek physiques?

  273. My routine by jkndrkn · · Score: 1

    My routine:

    - Lift weights once a week for 2.5 hours
    - Trail run every other weekend or so
    - Racquetball once a week or so

    Honestly, attending the gym isn't all that bad. When people are at the gym, they are attuned to their body and not the bodies of those around them. After one attends a gym for perhaps a week's worth of sessions one realizes that there is a surprisingly great sense of anonymity and privacy involved.

    Trail running is nice, primarily because it is quieter (no cars), less smelly (no cars), and better on the joints (soft running surfaces). It's a good mood elevator for me as well as it allows me to enter an undistracted and introspective state that I find very healing.

    Racquetball is great because of its three-dimensionality and demand for great mental concentration. I find that it helps attune my reflexes and sharpen my awareness of my environment and body. Sitting sessile all day tends to make one become static and slug-brained.

  274. Re:Tai Chi by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You are confusing Tai Chi with some Tai Chi -like aeoribics done in the US etc.

    When actual TC is done slowly, it is to learn the correct coordination.

  275. Re:Right idea, wrong approach. by Like2Byte · · Score: 1

    If I may impart some anecdotal evidence of what the parent described:

    I weighed 225lbs with a 36" waist @5' 7.5". I joined a gym and I worked out for 8 months there (through early Fall and through late Spring). My legs were already massively muscular; but, my arms are disproportionately sized WRT my lower frame. So I spent a lot of time on the stair master for aerobic activity and of course hit the weights to increase my arms' diameter. I was able to curl about 70lbs with each arm before I quit. I mixed it up so as not to enter a rut so quickly, too. My arms got strong but never big - that is, the increase in size wasn't that much.

    I lost no weight at all.

    Not being a terribly social person anyway, I grew bored of all the hotties being too hot to, gasp, look in their general direction nor could I stand every guy in the place trying to size you up or being aggressive to impress the ladies. So I quit - I wasn't having any fun anyway.

    So, I went back to mountain biking - I lost 27 lbs in two months and I thoroughly enjoyed myself! I never looked or felt better about my own self image. I've stuck to biking ever since and have never regretted the decision. The people you meet biking are the most interesting, intelligent and easy-to-get-along-with people I've ever met.

    Now, time to be a hypocrite: STOP DRINKING COLA PRODUCTS - I'm sure that factored in there a lot, too.

    Just remember: If you're trying to lose weight you must ensure that energy spent grossly outweighs energy consumed.
    Here:

    If(CaloriesConsumed < CaloriesSpent)
            --m_weight; // Lost Weight
    else if(CaloriesConsumed > CaloriesSpent)
            ++m_weight; // Gain Weight
    else
            __noop(m_weight);

    And you've got to keep this up for a long period of time - hopefully, for your entire life (exercise, that is).

  276. Ex plan by p5 · · Score: 0

    Day 1- biceps + 40 min cardio
    Day 2- chest + 40 min cardio
    Day 3- tri + 40 min cardio
    Day 4- lats + 40 min cardio
    Day 5- legs + 40 min cardio
    Day 6- delts + 40 min cardio
    Day 7- 40 min cardio

    Massive amount of kettle one to off-set it all.

  277. HIIT.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    any HIIT program is a really good way for exercising in less time with higher intensity by bringing you're heart rate high up to burn calories/fat!! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-intensity_interval_training

  278. Work it into your videogames by tfskelly · · Score: 1

    Seriously. I play COD4 - mostly Search and Destroy. A typical round lasts 5 minutes and I'm alive for an average of, ohh, maybe 1 minute per round. That leaves 4 minutes/round of sitting and specing other players.....or doing push-ups, sit-ups, lunges, jumping-jacks while I'm waiting for the next round to start.

    In an hour long gaming session I can get in about 200 push-ups, 50 pull-ups, 100 leg-lifts, 50 lunges. Do it after dinner when you're winding down for the night to help burn off those extra calories. No equipment required, no people around.

    That said, get a bike and ride instead of drive when you can. Save some money on gas too!

    -KB

  279. Squash and Geocaching (not together) by clockwise_music · · Score: 1

    Squash is the greatest sport in the world (no exceptions) and possibly one of the highest calorie burning. (Badminton is similar). You're also stuck in a closed-off room so only your opponent can see you haul your arse around. But really, who gives a stuff what people think. It's also terrific fun bashing the crap out of that little black ball, and you'll soon forget that you're exercising. There's no better motivation than trying to beat a friend : )

    Don't bother with racquetball, that's for clueless Americans who don't know any better.

    If you want to walk/jog, try taking up Geocaching. Gets you outdoors and there's hundreds of interesting caches out there.

    1. Re:Squash and Geocaching (not together) by sir+fer · · Score: 1

      Squash is the greatest sport in the world (no exceptions)

      You've obviously never been surfing ;o) and sitting for hours out in the freezing ocean burns calories like you wouldn't believe....seriously!

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  280. The key to losing weight is to do both... by cyclocommuter · · Score: 2, Insightful

    ... resistance training (multiple sets of situps, pushups, crunches, bicycle crunches, bench/military presses, etc.) followed by cardio (interval training on a real bike mounted on a trainer), not the other way around. This basically guarantees that your muscles will be toned but will not bulk up plus your metabolism rate will increase so you continue burning calories even while inactive. I do this 2 times a week indoors... the other 2 or 3 times I either cycle to work or participate in a group bike ride.

    Another key to losing weight is to sleep at night feeling a little hungry.

    1. Re:The key to losing weight is to do both... by sir+fer · · Score: 3, Informative

      This basically guarantees that your muscles will be toned but will not bulk up

      dude, I challenge you to try and build more muscle than you "want" without using steroids. If you're like me and 99% of the people I have trained with, no matter how much weight you can lift/press/squat etc, it is almost impossible to end up looking even close to a modern bodybuilder without using copious quantities of human growth hormone.

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    2. Re:The key to losing weight is to do both... by aliquis · · Score: 1

      You don't NEED to do cardio, you should do weight lifting to keep the muscles you have though, and cardio are still good for you. All you need is a energy deficiency.

      (And the slower you lose weight and the more you workout the higher chance you'll keep muscle and that the body weight loss will be fat.)

    3. Re:The key to losing weight is to do both... by aliquis · · Score: 1

      Afaik growth hormone don't build much muscle does it? But yes, to look like a pro bodybuilder you need to start injecting.

      But most people would probably be happy with less than that, and you can look in good shape without it. It just takes time, heavy work at the gym and a good diet (both for increasing mass and getting rid of excess fat), which is probably the reason why people don't do it ;)

    4. Re:The key to losing weight is to do both... by Daengbo · · Score: 1

      The key is to lift in the 6-8 rep range. I put almost four inches on my chest last year while dropping ten from my waist.

    5. Re:The key to losing weight is to do both... by DuckDodgers · · Score: 1

      That's good. But I doubt any amount of natural bodybuilding will make 99.9% of the population as muscular as the rejects - let alone the competitors - from a major bodybuilding competition.

    6. Re:The key to losing weight is to do both... by Danse · · Score: 1

      This basically guarantees that your muscles will be toned but will not bulk up

      dude, I challenge you to try and build more muscle than you "want" without using steroids. If you're like me and 99% of the people I have trained with, no matter how much weight you can lift/press/squat etc, it is almost impossible to end up looking even close to a modern bodybuilder without using copious quantities of human growth hormone.

      No kidding. Seemed pretty strange to me that he seems to think that you can just kind of accidentally get huge or something. I've been doing a lot more weight training over the last several months, and it's quite obvious that there's no chance of me "bulking up". I've definitely added some size and definition, but nothing that even begins to approach body-builder size. I don't think anyone here needs to worry about it at all.

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    7. Re:The key to losing weight is to do both... by Daengbo · · Score: 1

      I just meant "the key to adding mass is ...." Sorry for the confusion. Bodybuilders need both incredible genetics and large steroid stacks.

    8. Re:The key to losing weight is to do both... by Remus+Shepherd · · Score: 1

      You *can* look like a bodybuilder without hormones or steroids -- many bodybuilders avoid those things. What nearly all of them do, however, is dehydrate themselves. If you dehydrate to the point that your fat cells shrink, then the muscle tone shows. This is obviously not recommended for anyone -- you might do less harm to your body by just taking the steroids.

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    9. Re:The key to losing weight is to do both... by BlackSnake112 · · Score: 1

      Or start working out in your early teens (13,14) and never stop. I love the bowflex ads showing people in great shape who most likely were always in great shape. Yes they were hand picked for the ad but it is very misleading. Can someone go from looking like Tony Soprano to looking like that guy in the ad using that home gym? Yes, in about 5 years at 20 minutes a day, if your lucky.

    10. Re:The key to losing weight is to do both... by easyTree · · Score: 1

      Another key to losing weight is to sleep at night feeling a little hungry

      ..and have your central heating no higher than 20deg celcius. let your body keep itself warm by burning energy stores.

  281. Become a weapon! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I box. I don't have to get in the ring but i get to take advantage of the rest of a boxers workout. A good diet always helps too.

    1. Re:Become a weapon! by Axess+Denyd · · Score: 1

      If you don't get into the ring, then how do you box? Are we packaging items for shipment to faraway lands?

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  282. Re:Get out. Have some fun. by cptdondo · · Score: 1

    I second that. I work out at a gym (and also teach there.) The group is incredibly supportive - we know who's on vacation, and who's screwing off. And we pester each other to show up - and to make sure everyone is OK, doing fine, etc. If you don't show up for a few days, someone will call or email you to make sure you're OK.

    Oh, and just a handful are true athletes. The rest of us are pilsbury doughboys - but that doesn't stop us from having fun.

  283. More random ways by EdelFactor19 · · Score: 1

    do you have stairs? run up and down them in intervals.

    do you have a backpack? fill it with books or anything heavy and use it as a weight to lift.

    increase the number of pushups and situps; google around for core body exercises; when I swam in high school we did a lot of that stuff that involved no weights. If thats not enough wear a backpack full of text books while doing the pushups... another good one is to get a chair and put your feet up on that and then do the pushups (now on an incline/decline depedning on how you look at it) Might involve jumping though. google up some plyometric exercises... or get into tai-bo or something

    one of the geeks i work with just got into kick boxing oddly enough and he really likes that.

    one thing i have to say as a geek who is a part time jock; is that gym's arent as bad as you might think. I've always found that the quickest way to get respect at a gym isnt by looking like a body builder, or by lifting more than everyone else.
          It's by looking like you belong there; that you have a purpose. That you aren't there to relax. If you go there regularly and push yourself you'd be surprised how many people would offer pointers. Like many other things in life, you learn the most hen you have the most to gain, when everyone else is stronger than you.

    its a lot of random stuff i realize but thats how i pick up a lot of it; random tid bits here and there; rearrange them to form a good circuit later :-)

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  284. lap swimming or open water swimming by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have been lap swimming and open water swimming (in Lake Michigan) for the past two years. Swam a lot as a kid and on a team in middle school and high school. But "body by macintosh" started to happen in my mid 30s... bit o paunch etc. But I started swimming and hitting the half mile ... mile ... two mile mark in my workouts and limiting food intake. That is very important. Limit the food intake. Vodka instead of beer, apples instead of ice cream. Take the top bun off the burger. Don't eat all the fries on the plate. Eat big salads for dinner. Eat until you are full - not finished with your "clean plate". Now I am swimming in races and open water events with Masters Swimming - a very open program for older swimmers (18+) in most cities.

  285. Kettlebells, Barbells, and Bodyweight Stuff by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Until you've tried 10 minutes doing as many kettlebell swings as possible, you don't know what pain is.

    Go here for information. The cheapest heavy stuff can be found at a used sporting goods store.

  286. lol by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    60 push ups and 30 sit ups a night isn't enough to do jack. Start with 4x20 pushups/situps and increase the amount each week, aiming for 6x30.

  287. Try this or Ask Arnnie !!! by Axe4ever · · Score: 1

    Try Yoga. It will tone you up mentally and physically.It will regulate the thyroid so that u don't eat more.And you keep up the shape, provided you are consistent. If you have a busy schedule and you believe the gymming will help, put in a mail to Arnold, asking how he manages to a Governor role and gymming together !!!

  288. Try some contact spot by Lisandro · · Score: 1

    No, i'm not kidding. Kickboxing training, for example, is very aerobic, and tones your muscles aswell. I've been doing Kick & Thai for years now, and it has done wonders for my health.

    Just give it a try. If you find a good teacher, chances are you'll even probably end up liking it :)

  289. Burning fat and creating muscle. by sabrex15 · · Score: 1

    You need to no longer do sit-ups. Do crunches, and do about 200-300 per day. Mountain Climbers (look it up).. do about 2-3 minutes. Push-ups.. good for upper body, and continue at about 60 per day. Several kinds of jumping jacks, do as many as you can for about 10 minutes per day. And as we did in football, up-downs, do about 5 minutes per day. You should be sufficiently tired afterwards. Lower your calorie intake, drink LOTS of water and you will increase your metabolism, lose body fat while increasing muscle mass. :-)

  290. Go climb a mountain by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That's what I do. It's the only type of exercise I can tolerate.

  291. Yup by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yoga

  292. MOVE! by Frederick+Paepke · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It all boils down to the fact that you've got to move. Sitting all day destroys your body. After almost three decades of sitting in front of a computer, I decided two years ago to start moving and I can honestly say that despite a few temporary set backs, life just gets better.

    Start small if you need to; I started with a fifteen minute walk every day. When things started to get easier I did more. After two years I'm at the point now - though I'm not (yet) the finest example of physical fitness - that CrossFit (www.crossfit.com), strength training (www.startingstrength.com), and rowing (www.concept2.com) are the best tools in my fitness routine. You gotta change things up regularly if you find yourself bored.

    The key is to move. Do new things all the time. Challenge your body and you challenge your mind.

    You'll find that living life upright is much more enjoyable than life sitting down.

    -Fred.

  293. Uh... wait a minute. by Jane+Q.+Public · · Score: 1

    I went to my local pool wearing roller blades, on a bicycle... and they would not let me in the pool. What gives?

  294. Tackle everything at once, if you can. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sleep, diet, and exercise are all linked. So I will offer loud opinions on all of them.

    -If you're staying up late and taking snacks or desserts, stop that. Make your last meal three or four hours to bedtime and stick to it. Then try to get up earlier and have a full breakfast ASAP. This particular arrangement reinforces a healthy sleep cycle, while eating late tends to extend your day.

    -Study your diet very carefully, replacing the "cheap carb" meals with nuts and vegetables. You won't have to cook as much with those. Also consider drinking more milk, or other protein. Protein is nearly ideal for sating hunger without a lot of carbs. Also consider premade smoothies and shakes to fill in gaps in variety - but if you are looking for veggies, make sure they aren't only using sugary vegetables like sweet potatoes and carrots. A proper vegetable shake will knock your socks off energy-wise without using much or any sugar.

    -Exercise is about tuning the process, not results. A fully-stocked gym is useful for this because you can use machines, do some sets semi-randomly, or experiment with different training plans. The gym is not about other people and it is imperative to realize that. It's a blank slate like the computer - you get out of it what you put in, and the accomplishment you are there for is smaller than "get fit," it is simply "be active for the day." Get a personal trainer for two or three sessions if you want some basic form and training tips -- highly recommended to do so at least once.

    In my opinion, so long as some reps were done, the day was an exercise success regardless of anything else. This is much easier to accomplish with weights than with cardio simply because weights can be done and over with faster.

    From there, if you want to put more mental effort in, you can start looking at free weights while keeping in mind the concentration and intensity they require to be used properly. Powerlifting exercises are recommended by everyone for the scientific reason of targeting most of your muscles, but they require a keen focus to do correctly. If you've been focusing on programming problems all day, it's difficult to muster the strength to also put in top-notch sets. (this is an argument for hitting the gym before work)

    I gave up on deadlifts because of the thin line between bashing the bar against your shins and pulling your lower back that is good form, when using a standard bar. There are special deadlift bars that alleviate those particular issues, but I don't have them at my gym.

  295. Pushups. by Ortega-Starfire · · Score: 0, Offtopic
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    1. Re:Pushups. by Ortega-Starfire · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Oh hell. Ignore above link.

      http://hundredpushups.com/

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    2. Re:Pushups. by Cybrex · · Score: 1

      I was going to suggest that! I'm currently mid-way through week 2. :-)

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  296. My exercise program by ps3udonym · · Score: 1

    Pick up fork
    add weight to fork (I prefer steak myself)
    raise to mouth
    repeat.

    I am 6'2" tall an this routine has kept me at 170lbs for the past 16 years.

  297. In Just Seven Days.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://www.charlesatlas.com/

    Even after all these years the exercise part of the program is valid. Plus you can sing Rocky Horror songs while you work out.

  298. Methamphetamine by SleepyHappyDoc · · Score: 2, Funny

    Might not tone your muscles, but it'll keep the weight down.

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  299. Re:Right idea, wrong approach. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Running up and down stairs is a good cardio exercise.
    Plus i find that it is more knee friendly than running - at least if you plant your feet with the full foot, not the ankle zone or the tips of the fingers.

  300. Try Orienteering by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Its both a mental and physical excersise rolled into one!
    You can go full bore and run the an expert course, or take it easy with the family and try a beginners course.

  301. Watch your back: build your core with a Swiss ball by mikehihz · · Score: 1

    Years of sitting at a desk have screwed up my L5-S1 disc, which in addition to my L3-L4 have now herniated and caused a month of excruciating pain. A number of things relevant to this thread contributed to this: Sitting at a desk all day Poor posture Choosing the wrong exercises at the gym Being about 20 lbs overweight. Going through physical therapy taught me a fair number of core exercises which in addition to helping me lose an inch or so around the middle, have strengthed all my ab and lower back muscles including the core ones the machines and traditional situps don't touch. I've since purchased a Swiss ball to do core exercises at home to keep my core toned. You would be amazed how much that alone will do for your health and your back. Oh, and get up from the desk every once in a while.

  302. I used... by strabes · · Score: 1

    I used Robert Ullery's 9 week running program podcasts to start running again. They're great because although the music is a bit cheesy, they increase very gradually and tell you the intervals of walking/running to help you get started.

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  303. Ninja? by woo_yah · · Score: 1

    Become a Ninja - you're not meant to be seen by people, so that could work out well...

  304. A great workout in a short period of time by FlowofChi · · Score: 1

    I'd suggest kettlebells. 20-30 minutes of actual work 2-3 times a week will work wonders. He'll build whole body strength, increase flexibilty, and burn that wonderful Geek lifestyle paunch right off of him! Yoga is excellent as well. I attend Hot Yoga regularly, and the people are friendly but subdued. The women are hot, and the amount of interaction in the studio is limited. The health benefits are amazing. And of course, there's cardio and hiking! Getting out on a trail and meeting folks 1 or 2 at a time is a great way to get some activity and sun, thus hiding the Geek's true nature....

    1. Re:A great workout in a short period of time by asoukup · · Score: 1

      I'm with you on this suggestion.

      I've been sitting around for the past 5 years not getting much exercise. I HATE gyms. To your workout time add time to get to and back from the gym (along with added stress for another commute) and the time you wait while bolt necks hog the equipment.

      So I looked for something that 1) I could do at home with 2) a minimal investment in equipment.

      I stumbled on P90X. Mostly body weight exercises - push ups, pull ups, standing squats with no weights, etc - with a few dumbbells needed. It's tough - 1hr/day 6days/week. I did the whole 90 days and am definitely in the best shape of my life. My core muscles were stronger than they've ever been - usually doing gym workouts I would work on arms, back and quads; totally neglecting glutes, hammies and shoulders. P90X got all the neglected muscles a good workout.

      Where to go from P90X. Well - I knew I couldn't keep up working out 1hr/day 6days/week so I needed something different. I still wanted to work my core muscles to protect my back and have some aerobic exercise mixed in.

      After some internet reading, I stumbled on Kettlebells as well (http://www.russiankettlebells.com/ - also check out the book "Enter the Kettlebell" on Amazon). What attracted me to this is Kettlebells focus on core muscles with aerobic exercise that is even more demanding than Plyometrics from P90X. Plus, all you need is 1(one) kettlebell to get started. You can do these exercises inside, outside or wherever you can tote a single weight around. Throw in some pull ups and push ups and you're working all the major muscle groups. The exercises are focused on time not on number of reps so initially you work out no more than 1/2 hour per day 4 days per week eventually progressing to 1/2 hour per day 5 days per week - much more doable than P90X.

      I quickly found http://www.artofstrength.com/ (and there are many others) and got a worksheet for a starter kettlebell program. AOS has some good DVDs with different kettlebell exercises.

      I've found that I actually enjoy Kettlebells and look forward to the workouts. There's enough science behind it that piqued my curiosity and I need to concentrate on form too - so it's more than just pumping iron.

  305. Human Powered Computers... by Bertwisted · · Score: 1

    I saw one of these at The Museum of Science and Industry in Chicago. It was in the smart house exhibit. They said that biking for 20 minutes will power a T.V. for 30 minutes. http://www.scienceshareware.com/bike-generator-using-a-car-alternator.htm http://www.msichicago.org/whats-here/exhibits/smart-home/

  306. How Do Geeks Exercise? by MagicM · · Score: 1

    Very carefully.

    1. Re: How Do Geeks Exercise? by mseeger · · Score: 1
      How Do Geeks Exercise?

      Not at all.

      Regards, Martin

  307. Get over it by meta-monkey · · Score: 1

    Why are you so worried about being in front of people? Seriously, go to the gym and look around. Chances are, you aren't the worst looking guy there. And even if you are...who cares? Do you honestly give a crap about what any of the other people there look like? Do you think they care what you look like? Of course they don't.

    Now then, all this stuff about Wii Sports and DDR? Come on, do you want to play a game or do you want to get in shape? We're geeks, which means we value specialized knowledge and correctly applying appropriate tools to accomplish a goal in an efficient manner. There's nothing that's going to get you in shape better than cardio exercises and weight training. Cardio because it burns calories (and fat), and weight training because it makes your muscles toned and increases muscle mass, and muscles (which require more blood and oxygen than fat) burns fat.

    My gym has this great feature called "The Line." They have 8 or 10 machines all in a row that give you a full general body workout. You have a card that records all your machine settings and weights. You give the card to one of the staff members, and they go down the line setting up all the machines for you. You can do the complete line in 20-30 minutes and get a good general strength workout. Are you going to get huge? No, but that's not the point. "Toned" is fine.

    So, Monday-Wednesday-Friday, go to the gym for 1 hour. Do 30 minutes of cardio on a low-impact machine, like a stationary bike. My gym has the bikes with TVs attached to them, so I time my workouts so I can watch The Colbert Report while cycling. Then I do the line. The cool thing about the card system is you get to see your reps and weights going up every time. Basically, if you get more than 12 reps, the staff ups your weight for next time. Relevant xkcd

    On the off days, run in your own neighborhood. Don't run every day, because high-impact exercises like running can cause bone loss if you do them too often. So alternate. Regardless, do that for 2 weeks and you'll start seeing results, and then it's just a positive feedback loop. You're doing it right, you're doing it efficiently, the results are obvious as your weights go up and your times to run a mile decrease (tonight I ran 3 miles in 27 minutes).

    Just sayin'...man up and do it. You can spare an hour a day to stay healthy.

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  308. This helped me tremendously. by sordenrace · · Score: 1
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  309. T-TAPP by RenQuanta · · Score: 1

    I've done T-TAPP for the past 9 months in the privacy of my own home and it's done wonders. It's an innovative isometric workout for the whole body by Theresa Tapp that's easy and very effective, requiring no equipment whatsoever.

    For the first six months, my workout consisted of 15 minutes a day, 5 days every week (2 days off). Lately, I've upped two of those days to her 50 minute routine (which will crush anyone who is new to T-TAPP, I don't care what else you've been doing). You'll end up working muscles that you didn't even realize you had.

    Bottom line, I've lost a bunch of weight and look like I've been lifting weights for all that time. I don't have numbers, as I don't watch the scale, but I've dropped about a waist size and a half.

    Oh, and it's important to mind the food, too. It's hard to lose weight without a healthy diet.

    I've also been doing a sort of Southbeach program for almost a year, which I've found works fairly well. I'd strongly recommend some low-carb solution (Atkins is okay, but fairly impractical, in my experience).

    The combination of religiously doing T-TAPP workouts and eating a low-carb diet has been tremendous. I'd highly recommend it to anyone.

  310. Quit making it a "chore." by dentar · · Score: 1

    Find something you enjoy doing and enjoy it, and you'll do it. As long as you think of exercise as a chore you'll never be motivated to do it. It shouldn't be like flossing your teeth or taking out the trash.

    Myself, I bicycle. I rode 4,000 miles in 2007 and loved every minute of it. I ride with the local club and go on group rides. I'm 42 and this year I am the fastest I have ever been and am finally able to ride fast enough to keep up (barely) with the "fast" speed groups.

    If there's no form of sport or exercise you can find that you like, then the least you can do is approach weight loss in geeky fashion and check out http://www.fourmilab.ch/hackdiet/www/hackdiet.html "The Hacker's Diet."

    Garbage in, Garbage out.

    All that said, it really is best to find some sort of good aerobic exercise you enjoy, an hour a day, every other day at least. It helps manage weight, kills depression, clears your mind, increases self confidence. Yes, all that. ...and I -am- a geek.

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  311. WALK! it's free, do it any time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I walk 40 min to 1 hr every day. On days I'm feeling good I speed walk. I have my own computer business and I can do it for free anytime of day that works on that day. It's a life saver. I'm also diabetic so I have no choice. Every day, just get out and do it.

    It clears my head and often I come up with solutions to tech problems. I'm 50 and it is harder to stay fit. Something aerobic is key, weight training is good but in addition to getting the heart rate up for a prolonged period.

    I'm a different person after the walk than before it... positive, motivated, clear... before the walk, frump.

    I'd be divorced if I didn't walk.

  312. bodymass workouts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    investigate the book: never gymless
    It's all body mass workouts, very good

  313. I have a few things I do by zerocool512 · · Score: 1

    I have just started getting into a nice routine of using 10 lb ankle weights at work, in front of a computer so I do leg lifts and it makes getting lunch work, and playing a weekly game of Airsoft in the woods for hours. That and nightly crunches, I have been seeing some good results.

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  314. excercise??? SCHMECKERcize! it doesnt work that wa by tkjtkj · · Score: 1

    You will find it difficult or impossible to lower your weight by excercising. Our bodies just dont work that way .. All your 'pressup's etc probably equate to the calories in a single piece of bread.

    You gain weight cuz of many factors: the most important is that you eat more than your body need; it is also likely that you eat the wrong foods.

    Note that its taken years for your to get into this 'lack of shape'..
    so why not take an equally gradual change in lifestyle, to counter and even reverse the gains? Eg, eliminating butter, a single item, could. over years completely bring you back to your previous weight.

    "Portion Control" seems to be the 'trick' these days ... DONT EAT UNTIL YOIU FEEL STUFFED! and DONT SNACK ON WORTHLESS HIGH-CALORIE JUNK FOODS!

    then: be PATIENT .. weigh yourself no more often than ever few weeks, at teh same time of day, say upon wakening.

    Such simple changes can work wonders without inconveniencing you to the point where you give up the program!

    It's worked wonders for me .. its taken over a year to lose 35 lbs.

    tkjtkj, md

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  315. Doable but not overnight by Turcoj · · Score: 1

    I had the exact same problem almost a year ago. Since then I have lost 30-40 pounds by just walking (2 hours a day, 5 days a week) but if you use an elliptical machine you can probably limit this to 30-60 minutes a day and get the same effect. It takes a while, at least 3-4 months to loose all the weight but it is definitely worth while.

  316. Walking by Easy2RememberNick · · Score: 1

    Walking is the best way to keep in shape, it's normal to walk unlike jogging/running, doing that for long distances can be pretty hard on you, walking is better for your knees than jogging.

      Consistency is important too, even if you can't walk far at least do a bit, even a step or two, just do something!

      I went to the gym for years and never progressed much but walking is fantastic I've never been in better shape. Although it's tough to increase muscle mass by walking, you need some light strength training too.

     

  317. Re:Tai Chi by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    So long as you don't cheat and rise up and then go back down with each step. That ends up watering all the hard work down to nothing. (I've seen a few people claim that taichi was too easy thanks to their cheating.)

    At least stay level on bended knee for most of the routine (20-40 mins depending on how fast you go) and you should feel the actual 'training' happening.

    In addition to what was quoted above, taichi is a non-impact exercise like swimming, but without the need for a pool of water.

  318. Mod parent up by Optic7 · · Score: 1

    This is pretty much the same thing that a certified personal trainer and fitness competitor told me regarding metabolic rates and calorie burning in aerobic exercise versus weightlifting. She didn't go into the details, but she did say weightlifting burns calories a lot longer than aerobics.

    1. Re:Mod parent up by mopower70 · · Score: 1
      Yes, it is true, but you're comparing apples and oranges. The amount of calories burned during a resistance training session and an equivalent length aerobic session aren't even in the same league. Even including the additional time that resistance training increases your metabolism and consumes calories, it's not going to compare to what you lost during the aerobic session.

      But - that doesn't mean you shouldn't do both. Resistance training enhances aerobic performance and vice-versa. Want to be a better runner, biker, rower? Try strength training. Want more stamina while strength training? Try running or cycling.

    2. Re:Mod parent up by yabos · · Score: 1

      I think that's also the main reason most woman at the gym are still a bit flabby even if they are small. They're so afraid of gaining a lb of muscle that they don't lift weights and just do endless cardio and aerobics. Suffice it to say they still have the cellulite cottage cheese ass.

  319. Re:Get out. Have some fun. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The best way to keep a commitment to work out is to tell people. Tell everyone you know. Start a blog and update it daily. You won't want to look like a jackass in front of your friends, family, and coworkers so when you tell them all you're going to start working out you'll be more likely to keep up with it.

  320. I think the majority... by themadplasterer · · Score: 1

    do it one handed

  321. Ultimate answer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    People tend to reflect with their bodies the stuff they do while awake.

    I suggest you start to do sports as a hobby. Find ANY sport that is interesting and switch if necessary. Try to do something at least 1 hour every day.

    I found olympic weightlifting. It was the best thing ever in my life and I started it when I was 32 years old. I can now snatch my own weight after 2 years of training.

  322. Weights with Dumbells by Lips · · Score: 1

    I do weights with dumbbells at home. I exercise at my convenience while listening to the radio or podcasts. Its not that expensive. My "kit":

    1) The Great Dumbbell Handbook: The Quick Reference Guide to Dumbbell Exercises. Great book, 4.5 stars on Amazon.

    2) A basic weight bench.

    3) 2 pairs of dumbbell handles and weights. 2 pairs to have 2 different sets of weight, because you don't want to stop to change weights during your workout.

    4) An exercise mat for stretching.

    5) A swiss ball for stretches and some exercises.

    In Australia, all this cost about $250.

  323. Re:Tai Chi by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Its been very popular in China for centuries and obviously works quite well, given the number of old people you see doing it in droves there.

    Erm to be fair, in China don't you see people doing everything in droves?

    For example this "Job Fair"

  324. Weight Training by Jack9 · · Score: 1

    I have a personal trainer 3-5 times a week for an hour, and a ball at home for cardio on the weekends. I found that I didn't get committed until I started spending money for it. It's important to understand your physical and psychological needs to engage in a workout plan.

    I have a synthetic aortic valve and ran for a very long time after my second aortic surgery at age 9. I was not allowed to play contact sports for fear of a clot traveling to the valve. By age 12 I had blown a knee. By age 20 I had blown out my back doing physical labor. Now into my 30's I do weight training. My blood pressure maxes out and I reach up into 190 beats per minute for about 45 minutes with 5 minute warmups and 10 minute cooldowns. The cardio that you get from pushing weights is no worse or better than full elliptical cardio if you have the endurance. Your heart doesn't know the difference and you are simply working different muscles more intensely (depending on your routine). I use a large ball to do gravity cardio during the weekends for 30 min/day. The biggest problem with my weight training is a specific diet and routine that must be maintained or I will end up vomiting after the lifting workouts due to decreased bloodflow (synthetic valve) leading to my body reacting to exhaustion as trauma. If you start working out hard enough, your body will react similarly for a time until your nutrition and vascular system catches up.

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  325. Capoeira by mandinguera · · Score: 1

    I do capoeira, a brazilian martial art. It is a good aerobic workout, and a great (the best, in my opinion) strength workout. Since the art puts a lot of emphasis on maneuvering in small spaces, I can practice on the floor of my lab when I need a break from coding. In my first year I went from being moderately overweight to looking like an athlete, it is really quite effective for getting in shape, because it works your body in every possible way.

  326. Diet and exercise by br00tus · · Score: 1
    For me the biggest problem is time for cardiovascular exercise (jogging, bicycling etc.) You are supposed to do many hours a week and I don't have the time. I try to do as much as I can though. I ride my bike to the gym, so I get some extra cardio exercise on the way there and back.

    As you are probably the analytical sort, you can definitely have a very efficient routine. One thing is everything helps each other - a good diet of food lets you maintain or even lose weight, while still having plenty of carbohydrates to burn during cardiovascular exercise and protein to build muscles in the day or two you take to recover from muscular exercise. Muscular exercise builds muscles which helps burn fat when you do cardiovascular exercise (bigger muscles actually cause a weight gain, but this is a good thing - while people talk about losing weight, what you're really trying to do is lower your BMI - body mass index so that you go from obese/overweight to the normal BMI range).

    Most muscle groups have an "opposite" - quadriceps have hamstrings, hip adductors have hip abductors and so forth. You should begin workout routines with your largest muscles and go down to the smallest ones - from largest to smallest it is quadriceps, hamstrings, hip adductors, hip abductors, pectoralis major, latissmus dorsi, deltoids, biceps, triceps, lower back, abdominals and neck. This is because quadriceps are large and need a lot of energy, but abdominals are smaller and don't so you'll have energy to do them.

    If you have not done muscle exercises for many weeks (or months, or years) - do not exercise one muscle. Do not exercise just your biceps. Do exercises that use more than one muscle groups. Chest press uses the pecs, the triceps and the deltoids (the anterior deltoid). Leg press uses the hamstrings and the quadriceps. So beginners should begin with exercises that use several muscle groups. Once you've built your muscles up a little (in a few months), you can start concentrating on just your biceps, or just your pecs etc. Also don't kill yourself. You build muscles by TEARING your muscles. You do not want a giant tear, that is an injury. You want small tears that protein will rebuild and which in 2-3 days you can work on (and tear, slightly) again.

    You can build a muscle with only 16 exercises a week. And it does not have to be all-out exertion - just 75% of what your body is capable of. More than 100 exercises of a muscle (at 75%+ capablity) a week is unneeded and may even be counterproductive. Meaning only 16-100 repetitions (at 75% maximum capability) are needed a week to build it. The best thing to do is look on the web or in an exercise book for how much a person your age should be able to do for each exercise (chest press, hip adductor, row, leg press etc.) Then get on the machine and do one or two repetitions with 0 pounds (or very little), just to warm up your muscles. Make sure the seat and everything is adjusted to your height. If you're supposed to be able to do an exercise at 50 lbs., start at 30 lbs. or so. See if you can do 8 repetitions of it, with each repetition being 6 seconds - 2 seconds positive (pushing out or up or whatever) and 4 seconds negative (a smooth move of 4 seconds of the weight coming back down, with some muscle resistance against the weight). Eight 6 second repetitions of 1 or more muscles and you are doing muscular exercise. If you can't do 8, start with less weight. If you can do eight keep going. Up to twelve 6 second repetitions is still muscular exercise. If you are able to do 12, then increase the weight in the next set of exercises. Wait a minute or two (or more) between sets to relax your muscles. Form is very important, if you are doing it in a jerky and uneven manner you are not getting a benefit. You usually get more muscle from the 4 second negative/resistance phase of the muscle exercise since pushing out or up is inherently prone to be done in a non-smooth or jerky manner. Usually what I do is do 8-12 reps of the maximum I am able to do 8-1

    1. Re:Diet and exercise by br00tus · · Score: 1
      With regards to "being an introvert, I'm not enamored of the idea of exercising in full view". An out of shape person walking into a gym alone for the first time (and the second time) can be a little intimidating. There can be a lot of young, muscular guys full of testosterone walking around, especially around the free weights, who are already buff while you are not yet. Also the bench press machine is right in front of the treadmill, and it can be embarrassing to initially struggle with 8 repetitions of 50 pounds in front of some cute, fit girls jogging when the last guy just bench pressed his own weight. My suggestions, one, go with a friend. I used to go with my friend but then I moved. My friend here was going to go with me but he can't now for various reasons. I'd rather go with a friend, but plenty of people come in do do cardio or muscle work by themselves. Another suggestion is see what the gym is like at different times of the day. The old gym I used to go to and the gym I go to now both have busy times and times when the gym is almost empty. You sound like you'd prefer to work out in a near empty gym. When it is really busy it is a pain - you have to wait for a machine, and then when you get on it someone is hovering over you wanting to use it next. Thirdly, go to gyms around where you live and/or work and see what they are like. I go to night school at college as I'm going for a degree currently. So lots of professors and grad students and that type are there - they have pens and memo pads (or even PDAs) where they write down what their routine was that day, which is kind of a dorky thing you would have never seen at the last gym I was at which was more macho. Also, the last gym I was in had a separate free weight and Nautilus area, so the built, macho young guys were usually in the free weight room and the Nautilus and cardio area was more yuppie.

      Then there is cardio exercise. Legs are the best thing to get cardio exercise from - jogging or walking fast, stair climbing, cycling. They are the best because the blood goes from your heart to your leg, a longer distance than say rowing a boat, where the blood is only going from your heart to your arms, a shorter distance. You should do cardiovascular exercise about 3 times a week, for about an hour each time (or 30 minutes minimum at the very least). Make sure to warm up for at least 5 minutes before the exercise, and also wind down for about five minutes at the end. It is more about time spent then effort exerted - you want your heart beating at about 65% of its maximum capacity. More is not necessarily better - if you are really going at it and your heart is 80% of maximum, you are burning more calories per minute but they are not fat calories being burned. With a cardio workout, 3 hours a week of a decent workout is better than 2 hours of a super-intense workout of climbing a fast-moving stair-climbing machine. Stair-climbing machines are for people who have been getting plenty of cardio exercise for months and who are in good shape. You can read more about cardio and your heart rate and so forth elsewhere.

      Stretches are good to do as well. They give you more flexibility. You should do stretches during or after your workout, not before it. I stretch my calves, hamstrings, lower back and rotator cuff muscles. Just like everything else, do not overdo it, stretch for 30 seconds (less if you're new to it) and just until it's stretched, don't stretch until you're in pain. If you're busy some day you can skip stretching, but you should do it when you can.

      Then there's diet. Find out how many calories someone your height and age should be eating a day. Then keep track of it. It is not hard to do. Try to cut down on fat, especially saturated fat. Fat has more calories per gram than protein or a carbohydrate. After fat, it is good to cut down on sugar as you probably get way more than enough of it, it is putting weight on you, rots your teeth etc. Eat nutritious food, you probably get more than enough protein but get

  327. I arrange life around getting exercise indirectly by jesterzog · · Score: 1

    Most of the time I don't have the luxury of just getting out of the house/office. And being an introvert, I'm not enamored of the idea of exercising in full view of *shudder* people.

    I think you may have misunderstood the meaning of the word 'introvert'. All it means in simplistic terms is that someone tends to be more relaxed and recharge themselves by getting away from others for a while. This is opposed to extraverts, who tend to be more relaxed when they're surrounded by friends and talking a lot (or some similar variant). Being embarassed to exercise in public, I think, is quite a different thing and I can easily relate to that.

    I'm definitely an introvert, but I talk to people easily if I feel I actually have something worthwhile to say, and I get out a lot. I walk 35 minutes to work (down a hill), 45 minutes home (up a hill), and I invested in having some decent rain gear so I can comfortably do this irrespective of the weather, which is an important consideration where I live. Every 2-3 weeks I'll typically spend a Friday and Saturday night out on a weekend hike up or around a mountain somewhere, usually with friends. (I joined a hiking club to get into this properly, since before that none of my friends were really interested.) I guess this is a fortunate benefit I get from where I live and being interested in doing it, but I do it primarily out interest in going to look at places rather than getting exercise.

    I have to admit that going to a gym or jogging down the street or generally going out explicitly to exercise doesn't appeal to me at all. Personally I just try to arrange my life around making sure I do enough walking, and the exercise I get is a side effect rather than a conscious effort to stay fit.

  328. Shovelglove by JWL-23 · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Shovelglove is the perfect geek exercise hack:

    Take a sledgehammer and wrap an old sweater around it. This is your "shovelglove." Every week day morning, set a timer for 14 minutes. Use the shovelglove to perform shoveling, butter churning, and wood chopping motions until the timer goes off. Stop. Rest on weekends and holidays.

    I do 50 shoveling motions, 50 right then 50 left; 15 to 20 butter churns, right then left; 20 woods chops in both directions; and then 5-8 curl like movements for which I haven't thought of a good name yet. Then I repeat the cycle until the timer goes off.

    The number and the order of the movements is flexible. Do them at the pace and in the order that feels right to you. Pay careful attention to your form, so as not to strain yourself. Imagine that you really are performing the activities being simulated. The critical thing is to do it every weekday, no more, no less; for 14 minutes, no more, no less; in a careful, non spastic manner.

    Shovelglove is clever, extremely effective, and extraordinarily elegant in its simplicity.

    I've been "shugging" for 3 years, off and on. When I'm on, I feel great, I have more energy, more muscle tone, etc. When I don't do it regularly, all of the above gradually go away over a matter of days or weeks.

    Once I pick it up again, I'm feeling great within a couple of days.

    Go slow at first. You will use muscles you didn't know you had. I recommend starting with an 8# sledge, maybe a 10# if you are already strong. I also got a 16# hammer after about a year of steady shugging. I also use a 4# framing hammer for one-handed moves.

  329. What I did by mpn14tech · · Score: 1

    I was in a similar situation. The first thing I did was try to figure out how to ensure that once I started an exercise routine, I could continue it. It had to be a lifestyle change.

    Initially I bought an exercise bike, but later I bought a treadmill. Since I did not want to spend thirty minutes staring at a wall while I ran, I bought a 13 inch flat panel TV and attached it to the wall in front of my treadmill. I attached a DVD player and watch rentals from netflix. Watching something with lots of action makes it easier to push yourself harder.

    The most important thing to maintain my routine is that I do my run as soon as I get home from work. I do not let myself get sidetracked on anything else.
    I have been following this routine for about 5 years now.

    In addition to keeping the weight off, it has really helped with stress levels. I have also found that the days I usually feel worn down and tired after work are the days that I have my best runs.

  330. Subway by cyberspittle · · Score: 0

    I like to get together with Jared and head over to Subway. Instead of sitting at your desk and eating, you need to get outside rain or shine. Next, you need to stop snacking. Make your desk a no eat zone. It is also more sanitary. With people eating at their desks, desks have become worse than a bathroom. Best of Luck and see you at Subway.

  331. Reptile metabolism by TheLink · · Score: 1

    My estimates are a 380 pound crocodile can get by on about 1000 calories.

    So maybe it's not impossible to do what you do, however it means your metabolism must be really efficient for a mammal.

    But have you checked your calorie calculations? Or you're leaving something out - like drinks?

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  332. Hacker's Diet by rmaloney · · Score: 0

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hacker's_Diet

    It's an engineering approach to weight loss. It's brutally simple and you can do it at home.

    To help me lose weight I bought a Chesapeake Bay Retriever who needs lots of exercise. I run with him daily and he keeps me motivated. To repay him I learned how to hunt ducks (so cold & wet, he loves it). The lesson is to find your exercise motivator and use it. It's too easy to be lazy.

    For what it's worth, using what I learned from John Walker and running with my dog, I lost 30 pounds and am in reasonable programmer shape =D

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  333. Get a Wii by blueseraph · · Score: 1

    Play any 1st person shooter on the Wii. Resident Evil 4 or Metriod Prime 3 are good choices. I'm all over my living room every time I play either game.

  334. Become an urban ninja and do Parkour by Zrako · · Score: 1

    If you want to do some exercise that is just way cool become a traceur (a traceur is someone who practices the discipline of parkour). With proper exercise and training you pretty much become an urban ninja. Check out the 3 Doors Down music video "It's Not My Time" and you'll see what a traceur does (check it here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHU9dN0Itrk ). I've been training for a few months and love it and yes I am a major geek myself.

  335. Treadmill by Nezer · · Score: 1

    A treadmill will provide the aerobic workout required to get the body pushing the calories out. It also stays in your home and, as an added benefit, you can jury-rig it to a generator to recharge your laptop so you can use those calories burned to power your slashdot habit.

  336. Exercise for tone, eat for weight by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    As we age our metabolism changes - we may not change what we eat, but the way our body reacts to it does.

    Extra calories burned through exercise amount to the square root of bugger all compared to the amount of calories we take in through food.

    Exercise can help, obviously, but dietary changes have far and away the biggest impact.

    As I say, you may not have changed what you eat, but as you get older you HAVE to change what, and how, you eat.

    I started going to the gym to improve muscle tone and simultaneously - on my trainers advice - changed my eating habits (NOT my diet - I still eat the same things, just in different quantities - if anything more, overall, than before - and at different times than I used to). The weight fell off.

    My personal trainer is the one that advised the dietary changes as the most effective way to lose weight. I changed to a large breakfast, medium lunch, small evening meal, compared to the light breakfast, little/no lunch, large evening meal that I was having before.

    Through one thing and another, the gym visits had to stop, but I maintained my new eating habits. The weight kept coming off, if anything faster even than before, and is now stable at 15kg lower than it was before I started going to the gym or changing my eating habits.

    And I still have Burger King/McD/Noodles/Dominos Pizza/KFC etc once or even twice a week (young family.. kids teaching me bad habits! lol)

  337. Exercise for Geeks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sometimes brute force overcomes elegance.

    Approaching 50, two years ago I took up Girya, the Russian Kettlebell. It is basically a cast iron cannonball with an iron handle. It uses a range of motion unavailable in other forms of resistance training, it takes up very little room, and if you use it according to instructions available in book and dvd, it will burn fat and change the composition of your body.

    Now at age 50, I am in better physical condition than I was at 35, the age for which I am now frequently taken to be.

    Videos on YouTube. Instruction at www.dragondoor.com and elsewhere.

    It is good for both men and women.

  338. Bike 'n surf by joeyblades · · Score: 1

    Get yourself a recumbent stationary bike and a cheap computer. Put the computer near the bike and you can bike 'n surf. I do it all the time. It's amazing how fast the time flies and it's the perfect geek-er-cise. BTW, I rigged a keyboard holder to the handlebars to make things a little easier.

  339. Food is important. by gurps_npc · · Score: 1
    1. If you have food by the computer you will snack. Make a simple rule that no eating while typing. P.S. Your keyboard will thank you.

    2. Try getting half a sandwich plus some vegetables for lunch instead of a full sandwich. Note what I said half a sandwhich plus vegetables. The following are NOT vegetables: cheese. Chicken/shrimp/other meat. Dressing. You get a salad with cheese, chicken and french dressing and that is a full meal by itself, not something you can eat with a sandwich. I personally have found that I do NOT miss the other half of the sandwich. As long as I get half a sandwich, I feel full.

    3. To lose weight you need an extended light exercise, not short duration heavy stuff. I.E. Aerobic not cardio. Forget about weight training, push ups, sit ups, etc. Try instead:

    Jogging/running

    rollerblading

    Dancing. Yes, DDR does count, but only if...

    You need to do these things for a long period of time. A total of 7 hours per week.

    Note, do not try walking or bicycling unless you are physically unable to do something stronger. There are lots of overweight people that walk or bicycle, but you never see an overweight serious jogger, runner, or rollerblader. Overweight dancers are sometimes possible but rare.

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  340. don't excercise... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...seriously, anything I could consider "exercise" I've always failed at doing. Now, it takes a slightly-less-introverted-than-average slashdotter to do this - but I spend about 2-4 days a week doing Kendo and dancing (ballroom/latin). Both are sufficient "exercise" to keep the engineer's gut under control, but I don't feel like it's a chore.

  341. Power Yoga by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The benefits of yoga are incredible. Especially if you don't have a history of working out. It is much more strenuous than may be obvious and it's a lot gentler than just "hitting the road" plus there are several excellent DVD's which don't require other people to actually see you doing it. I use Baron Baptiste DVD's myself. Excellent workout.

  342. Re:Get out. Have some fun. by Caboosian · · Score: 2, Interesting

    One thing I might add - if you're an avid gamer, or a competitive person (if nothing gets you going like a game of Halo, or Starcraft), you might try translating that into a workout. Find a friend, and go play some 1v1 basketball at a court. Race bikes. Something, anything that is competitive. Even if you're bad at the chosen task, if you find it fun, that's all that matters - you'll get better overtime, and you'll get in better shape.

    If you're afraid it'll be embarrassing, make sure you try this with close friends - no matter how bad you are, they'll just be happy to see you and be happy to be playing with you. After all, the best part of the this work out is at the end of the day, it's just a game.

  343. How I exercise by jokr2thief · · Score: 1

    Two words... Wii Fit.

  344. One word: swim by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    OK, some more words...

    Swim as briskly as you can for half an hour three times a week (or more). Half an hour is enough; 20 minutes is not.

    In no time at all you should be able to swim a mile in that half hour and burn a lot of calories. As a bonus, it'll raise your metabolism which is also beneficial for weight loss. You'll feel better too.

    You're already doing the push-ups and sit ups... good. That complements the swimming nicely. You'll have great pecs and firm abs. Chicks dig that.

  345. Running - its easier by rolfpal · · Score: 1

    I run 40-50 kilometers a week. If you can start, the running high will have you looking forward to your runs. 4 times a week is great.

    I lost 25 lbs in two months when I started.

    No equipment needed.

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    1. Re:Running - its easier by try_anything · · Score: 1

      No equipment needed.

      Not strictly true. New runners should make sure you have a good pair of running shoes and for busty women, a sufficiently sturdy sports bra. Otherwise they're in for a world of hurt.

  346. P90X by doyen2000 · · Score: 1

    I found this to be the best way to get fit and stay fit. You can do all of it at home. One hour a day for 90days.

    It was a chance find as well since I do not live in the US, I was staying at a hotel when I saw the ads late at night... I usually do not pay attention to infomercials but it was interesting enough to give it a go. Love it.

    Cheers, A

  347. Buy a heart rate monitor with calories burned by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It is surprising how little calories you burn doing some exercises and how may you burn doing others. Buy a cheap heart rate monitor with calories burn functions and the see what exercises you enjoy which actually give your best burn for your time.
    I know the calories burned is an approximation but it is the comparison between exercises you are looking for.
    Oh, and I ride a bike to work every day which allowed me to up my eating and I now struggle to maintain 168lbs at 5'11" unless I eat lots every day.

  348. Skillset allocation by spiffyinferno · · Score: 0

    I upgraded to heavy armor... sure, you take a casting penalty, but it works each muscle group a little more.

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  349. Don't you just wank? by Adam8g · · Score: 1

    ~ ~ ~ ~ I mean - you're a geek no?

  350. Stationary Cycle with a tall desk by JameyHEJ3 · · Score: 1

    This is my setup: A "desk" made from a sort of bookshelf (purchased from Target and Container Store), plus an exercise bike.

    Looks a lot like this:

    http://www.madsloth.com/Desk/ComputerDesk.jpg

  351. Join a Gym by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Join a Gym and go! I know you said your an introvert but the truth of the matter is no one really cares what you look like. Most people are focusing on what they are doing not you. If your new to the gym hire a personal trainer for your first few sessions. There are plenty of resources on the net that will lay out eating, weight lifting, cardio and stretching routines.

  352. Biking and Dance Dance Revolution by karmatic · · Score: 1

    Almost every night, I bike from Harvard to MIT (couple miles), and go play an hour or more of DDR before going back.

    I play DDR on doubles (both sides at once), on heavy. It burns a _lot_ of calories.

    I've gone from a 36 inch to a 32 inch waist in the past 2 months, and dropped over 40 pounds since I got here. Unfortunately, I'm not trying to - being 6'10" and 170 pounds isn't healthy. It is great exercise, though.

  353. NordicTrak by DaveAtFraud · · Score: 1

    A friend of our gave us his NordicTrak when he and his wife decided they liked a treadmill better. I like the NordicTrak since it's zero impact so there's less chance of injuring my knees. It's also a full body exercise since you use both your arms and your legs. I set it up where I can see the TV and I put in about 15 minutes a day on it plus I walk another mile and a half with the dog. This gives me about three miles of exercise every day. I'll probably bump the time on the NordicTrak to 20 minutes this fall.

    I like having the NordicTrak since it means I don't really care whether the weather is good for whatever outdoor exercise I might try instead (walking, running, biking, etc.). Also, since I don't have to go out to a gym, there goes another possible excuse for not exercising. Putting it where I could see the TV means I can workout and watch something so I don't have to give up too much to still fit in a workout. This works even better if I work out first thing in the morning so a little unscheduled overtime doesn't bump the workout either.

    Seems to work. I'm not as thin as I was when I was in college thirty years ago but the inseam on my pants is still greater than my waste size (33 x 34) which isn't too bad for an old fart like me (52) who eats and drinks pretty much whatever I want. And, yes, I like good food, good wine and good beer (current favorite is New Belgium's "1554" black ale).

    Oh yeah. Lots of coffee to boost my metabolism probably helps. And, yes, fidgeting burns lots of calories.

    Cheers,
    Dave

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    Ben
  354. Take a class at GYM by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Try a class, you can lurk in the back and feel like ur on a IRC channel.

    Start with Yoga and Pilates and add a bit of elliptical and strength training on machines...

    thats all easy and keeps the pounds off while correcting posture from computer all day at work and MMO'ing all nite at home.

  355. Go to the gym during off hours by aixguru1 · · Score: 1

    My solution to it given IT often has long and somtimes odd hours with various maintenance windows, events, late night coding sessions and what have you is to use my 24/7 gym at off hours. In general, I see 4-5 people acutally in my gym at night, not including myself and one other buddy I go with. So that leaves plenty of space, equipment and stuff for you to do at nights without the mass of folks using the gym like say at 6AM or 5PM time frames. With this huge 60'000 sq ft gym, 4 people is nothing at all and its very comfortable. After all, those that go at 2 or 3 AM in the mornings, tend to mind their own business.

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  356. 24... by chaney · · Score: 0

    Well, personally I start off by being '25', and I remain that way throughout the whole day... then, I do some 'doughnut curls' (while still 25) and drink several beers and then sleep. Try it! -Chaney

  357. I like running. You can make it nerdy. by theadman · · Score: 1

    I like running for lots of reasons but here is a few: - I can do it anywhere, just throw on my gear and I'm off. - If I don't have much time, I can run fast for a short period of time. If I have a while I can slow it down and stay out for a while. - With a GPS watch (I use a Garmin Forerunner 305) and some software I can map where I've run, how fast & my heart rate - When I get home I can see when I start to tire and if it was because of hills, etc - This info is perfect if your training for a goal, 5000 meter, 10k, Half-Marathon or THE MARATHON(TM) - Runners are annoying nice people, they wave and wink when you pass and are happy to run with you for a bit. - Chicks dig guys who run marathons...

  358. Combinations - new twist by meburke · · Score: 2, Informative

    A 2-week study at a Canadian University (McMasters?) suggested that 6 minutes of very intense exercise was better than 6 hours of moderate/regular exercise. It came froma small sample, but 8 people did 4 each of 30-second sprints, 3 times per week. In two weeks their Aerobic capacity and endurance showed marked increase, and their mitochondria count increased 35% (which is an indicator of the energy-burning capacity of the muscles).

    Geriatrics (ages in their 70's and 80's) regained musculature equivalent to persons in their 30's in Florida after exercising for 13 weeks by supporting weights so heavy they could only hold them for 30-60 seconds. (Two programs, "Static Contraction Training" and "Max Contraction Training" resulted from this study.) In the first 13 weeks I used the Max Contraction training, my doctor and I figured out I lost 14 lbs of fat and gained 9 lbs of muscle. I do this program for about 14 minutes a week. (It takes about a week to allow your muscles to recover at this intensity, despite what so-called "Physical Trainers" say about exercising 3 times/wk.) I'm 60 years old and have some joint problems, so it helps that I don't have to move weights repetitiously through a great range of motion.

    I walk 1 hour a day 4-5 days a week using a heart rate meter according to a program by Phillip Maffetone in his book,"The Maffetone Method". He trains bicycle racers and super-long-distance runners, so I suspect his program is pretty good. (It seems to work for me.) The end result: My doctor still wants me to lose another 50 lbs (I've lost 30 over the last two years), but my resting heart rate is less than 70, my blood pressure is 110/70, my total cholesterol is usually between 150-170 with real good ratios, blood sugar runs between 105 and 111 over the last two years, and I have lots of energy.

    The biggest drain on my energy is carbs. I was on a low fat diet for four years and gained 10 lbs/year. As soon as I started moderating my carbs instead of my fat, my energy levels picked up and I started losing a moderate amount of weight. I've looked at a number of books on the market, and since I can't distinguish one set of superstitions from another, I've resigned myself to sort of following the guidelines in "Protein Power" by Eades and Eades. YMMV. It is important for me to bring healthy lunches to work, avoid the soda and snack machines, and limit the number lunches I go to with the other developers. (For me, the difference between wishing I was fit and getting fit is using some of the talent for focusing I developed for programming, and applying it towards habits that work for my physical success.)

    I have my best success when I get into the pattern of exercising early in the morning. I don't do contract work anymore; the Electronic Sweatshop is detrimental to my health, even though the money is good. I take regular breaks from my desk, walk or do Tai Chi during my lunch breaks, and within a couple of weeks I will be biking to work instead of driving. Theoretically, I need to be active 90 minutes a day in order to lose the 50 lbs. When the joint problem gets corrected I will go back to doing martial arts 3 times per week or more, and that ought to do it.

    Good luck, and I hope you find something that works for you.

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    "The mind works quicker than you think!"
  359. Jump Rope by ziah · · Score: 1

    Jump rope is highly highly underrated. It is pretty much a total body workout.

    Try jump roping for 3 minutes straight - you'll definitely feel like you've just been jogging for about 15-20.

    If it becomes to easy - wear some weight. You could probably do it without even buying dumbbells. Just be creative.

  360. Just go to the gym by bjackson1 · · Score: 1

    I am in a similiar situation to you. I was very worried about going to the gym and didn't want the outsiders to see me. I'm an IT nerd that lives and works where others don't want to see.

    I started working out in a local gym and just had to say "fuck it" if anyone judged me. They are going to judge me worse on the street that at the gym.

    Since starting 5 day a week ellpytical (700 or so calories per go) and cutting my caloric intake I've dropped 30 lbs. I feel a lot better, more confident and a lot more virile. I've also noticed that I get along with women better.

    I still have a long way to go (70 or so lbs) but it's getting there.

    I suggest the elliptical. I was nervous at first because I had never used one, but it's extremely low impact and I can burn a lot of calories and still feel good in the morning. The treadmill hurts quite a bit. On the other hand I've dropped my 2 miles time by 4 minutes since starting working out, and I'm feeling a lot better in physical situations.

    I suggest all geeks do it.

    Also, if this post didn't make a lot of sense, I'm sorry. I've been out drinking with a woman! Yes, an actual woman, Slashdotters!

    Another reason to work out!

  361. Shovelglove by Joce640k · · Score: 1
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  362. Another Cyclist Biking to Work by mikeraz · · Score: 1

    I lost 50 pounds before I even thought about changing my eating habits. There are a lot of muscle groups that cycling doesn't help. For those there's Yoga.

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  363. Hah, mortals. by Kingrames · · Score: 1

    I don't have to exercise, I was born this sexy.

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  364. Get outside and run! by Demultiplexor · · Score: 1

    What's the first thing you learned to do after walking, talking, and coding... probably running!

    Cheap (you have a pair of shoes that aren't Homer Simpson slippers, right?)

    Solitary (you can run down back alleys or in circles around your house/apartment/cubicle)

    Still hang onto your geeky side (track your miles with an exercise log and graph and analyze your data)

  365. Kettlebells! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://dragondoor.com ... Kettlebells will kick your butt. Proper training is like wind sprints in how much it taxes your system. Very effective and can be done in a room with 6 or so feet of free space.

  366. Stair walking by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Stair walking is fabulous exercise. If you have a townhouse with a few flights or live or work in a tall building you are all set. When I was really into this I would typically do 52 flights (4 times up and down a 13 storey building). This is very demanding exercise and I believe it is not recommended for people with heart problems.

  367. Burning up Brakes by corsec67 · · Score: 1

    My exercise is to try and burn up bicycle brakes on the way back from a 6000 foot to 8500 foot climb.

    A boring video of part of the ride back down is here, where I hit 40mph.

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  368. Shovelgloving by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I found what may be the perfect exercise routine for an introvert who doesn't want to buy a lot of equipment...

    Shovelgloving

    1. Re:Shovelgloving by mr152 · · Score: 1

      You've hit the nail on the head. I've been doing this for several months and it is the perfect exercise for geeks (or anyone else). I can't believe more people haven't suggested it.

  369. Small Steps by bboyers · · Score: 1

    I would suggest performing a series of small steps to improve all around health. Like...

    • Taking the stairs (helps if you work on the 4th floor)
    • Park as far away from the entrance to your work place. Those extra hundred feet to/from work every day adds up.
    • During the workday, go to the bathroom on the far side of the building (or another floor). Every step counts.
    • Beware of the jelly donuts that show up on Fridays at the workplace. Those things contain hundreds of calories. Just think of how much exercise is needed to break even after eating that donut.
    • Fast food is evil. The reason it is called fast food is because it kills you fast and turns to belly fat fast.
    • No one over the age of 20 should drink non-diet cola (unless it is mixed with alcohol).
    • Learn to snack on healthy stuff. Snack on fresh fruit, dried fruit, nuts, just don't snack on processed crud.
    • Vegetables are our friends. They fill us up so we don't eat junk.
    • Eat breakfast. It really is the most important meal of the day. Cereal has lot of nutrients and is generally healthy. Eat a reasonable serving (most people eat 2-3 times the serving size and kill any health benefits of the healthy breakfast. BTW, eat cereal from a smaller bowl, you will eat less.
    • Ease into exercise. It take a long time to get fit. People expect too much too soon and usually injure themselves in the process. (I use to do this until I took it easy and allow myself to improve slowly but steadily.)

    My top weight was 197 when I was in my late twenties. I knew the longer I waited the tougher it would be to lose weight. I'm 33 now and weight 157 and feel awesome. I lost the first half of my weight through exercise, but the second half was due to quality eating once I was married.

    Good Luck,
    Brian

  370. Think back what you really enjoyed by quitte · · Score: 1

    Maybe you still have a skateboard in the basement? Or rollerskates? A BMX? The most important thing is that you are having fun.

    Then find a way to do it someplace where no critical mass to make you feel uncomfortable gets together.

    Personally I chose BMX Flatland. I hardly ever find anyone to do it with. And there always is a parking lot empty enough to just go out and give the same trick try after try after try... Most introverted sport I can think of, too. It's just you and your bike.
     

  371. Tae kwon do by rwa2 · · Score: 1

    It's good for engineering geeks, lots of right angles, physics, and sometimes weapons. Practicing kata can often resemble programming in logo.

    There's plenty of stuff for your mind to focus on, so it's not boringly repetitious like I find other sports like jogging or going to the gym.

    If you're not into competition, try to find the more traditional "ITF" style, which is more into practical self defense. The "WTF" style ("world taekwondo federation") is more focused on scoring points in competitions.

    A lot of the meditation and focus stuff resembles overclocking your body... if you think about it, you're only using a fraction of your lung and brain capacity most of the time. So if you start with concentrating on breathing fully, you'll find that you get more control of the involuntary bodily functions such as circulation to your brain, internal muscle tension, and how to clear out that and other blocks that just add stress and impede you.

  372. laptop on the treadmill by fongaboo · · Score: 1

    the thing that kept me from straying from my exercise routine was to get a cross-training treadmill with a suitable bookholder that could hold a laptop. i put a piece of foam to cushion it to keep the vibrations from interrupting the hard drive. if it wasn't for this, i would be way to bored to stick to my regimen. don't use your shiny new macbook pro tho. foam or not, i wouldn't advise using any laptop that you really care about. i typically have a really old skinny vaio at any given time that i use for this purpose. i use it till it craps out and have had to replace the hard drive periodically. but the entertainment value has been worth it. i took about 30 lbs. off this year.

  373. Pilates by weazzle · · Score: 1

    Get one of those high tempo pilates videos, and follow along. Oh, and don't forget to close the blinds...

  374. Bah by markov_chain · · Score: 1

    Do what I call the Balboa Exercise Program. Forget machines, run around the streets, randomly do pushups, pullups or situps to the side, randomly grab a heavy log to carry on the back while running, run up stairs, and--of course--finish your workout with a burst of sprinting ending at the top of the local mountain!

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  375. Row, row, row a boat by morrison · · Score: 1

    Find and join the closest local rowing club. You might be surprised to find that there is one pretty close to you even if you live far from a major body of water -- it doesn't take much.

    Crew is one of the most intense athletic sports that activates pretty much every muscle on your body. You will learn a new level of pain and suffering while you push your VO2 max to new heights and you'll love it. The aerobic/anaerobic demands and technical complexities of rowing seriously challenge both mind and body.

    It's also curiously one of the most GEEK-laden athletic sport activities anywhere. Most of an 8-man boat will be introverts just like yourself, most usually highly educated, and most highly obsessive-compulsive on technical proficiency. Rowing is also in the minority of sports where you can be competitive well into old age given how much a factor experience plays -- e.g., a 50 year old rower with 20 years experience can often wipe the floor against a 24 year old that has only a couple years experience.

    "Athletes row, everyone else just plays games."

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    Cheers!
    Sean
  376. Body Systems by Hugonz · · Score: 1

    I had not worked out for years, and I guess I just needed some fun in doing it. I got into one of the Les Mills programs. Inexpensive and fun. I'm now into Body Combat and Body Attack.

    www.lesmills.com

    1. Re:Body Systems by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 1
      BODYBALANCE is the Yoga, Tai Chi, Pilates workout that builds flexibility and strength and leaves you feeling centered and calm. Controlled breathing, concentration and a carefully structured series of stretches, moves and poses to music create a holistic workout that brings the body into a state of harmony and balance.

      Yyyyyyeah, that has about 28 buzzwords in that one paragraph. I think I'll pass.

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    2. Re:Body Systems by Hugonz · · Score: 1

      That's why I didn't post the marketing blurb in the first place, but instead wrote about my own experience. All advertising is full of buzzwords.

      Personally, I don't like Body Balance much. I don't feel like I've exercised if I don't come out all sweaty afterwards.

  377. Boxer's workout by neolith · · Score: 1

    Find a gym that offers a boxer's workout. If you're a huge introvert, maybe you can just observe. Or use the below as a starting point for a home work out, although I find having a trainer/instructor shouting "no loafing! on your toes! guard up! relax those shoulders! give it all you got!" at you and giving pointers on form is invaluable. The ones I've participated in do a really good mix of cardio/strength/resistance exercise. They are usually based upon some sort of work/rest period, kind of like rounds. You do work for 2/3 minutes, then rest for 30 seconds, then do it again.

    It varies depending on what condition you start with and there are modifiers for almost everything if you can't do the full motion for any given segment, but a sample workout might be... Stretching, then 5 minutes of shadowboxing to warm up. 2-3 rounds of jump rope or sprinting around the gym. 6-12 sets of 10 pushups with some variations like planks and three steps thrown in. Sometimes they'll break it up so you do 30-60 up front and then 30-60 at the end when your arms are exhausted. 5-6 rounds on various heavy bags, working combos, and concentrating on good footwork, breathing, and keeping your guard up. Sometimes the instructor will have you do the last 30 seconds of a round in a constant give-all-you-got punching on the bags. A round or two one-on-one with the instructor with him wearing focus pads and leading you through combinations. A round or two of speed bag. Some TRX or other resistance training. 3-4 laps of lunge squats or barrel-crawls up and down the gym. Then there are the crazy exercises like "pick up chickens" or "chase the rabbit" that are just excuses to have you move around, wear yourself out and increase endurance. During most of this they put emphasis on staying on your toes and keeping your guard up, i.e. keeping your hands up to protect the face, which are most of the time wearing 16oz gloves. That alone is harder than you think. You will be sore the next day. I keep thinking I'll get used to it, but what tends to happen is I'm just able to go a bit further and harder in the workout than the week before.

    It is the only workout I've never grown bored with. Some are more seriously oriented to boxing and some are more of a toned down aerobics kind of thing, it depends on the gym and the trainer. The equipment doesn't cost much (basic equipment such as gloves, wraps, and a jumping rope will set you back $60 or so, if you want a home gym a heavy bag and mounting equipment maybe double that, a round timer costs $20 for a personal one that works well, and then you can add speed and focus bags if you want). You don't need weights or lots of special equipment. It does an excellent job getting you into shape, toning, increasing muscle mass, and I find it is a good confidence builder and healthy outlet for aggression. I tend to do it Mondays and Fridays, which is good for dealing with a crappy Monday and blowing off steam to relax before the weekend, and I find that's about the recovery time I need in between the full workouts. I do some heavy bag work, pushups, and jump rope on the off days.

    Again, you can do it by yourself but working with a trainer and some fellow "boxers" is the most fun. At my gym it is a nominal add-on fee to my membership to take the courses.

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  378. The Pleasure Principal by istartedi · · Score: 1

    If you don't enjoy it, you won't do it. I used to run because I enjoyed the competitive aspect of it. My knees got bad. Now I hike. Sometimes I take pictures when I hike. When I lived in the East, I drove to the Blue Ridge and hiked it. Now I hike on the beach. I go where I want to go. I don't need anybody telling me to do it.

    The best excercise plan in the world falls apart in short order if you take no pleasure in it.

    It's not quite so convenient to have to drive to a hiking spot though. So yes, I'm always on the lookout for some activity that's good excercise; but it's also got to be fun, otherwise I know I'll just get bored and/or frustrated and quit.

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  379. Bicycle toward a treat to start off by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you aim your bicycle toward an ice cream treat or good pizza someplace across town you develop a Pavlovian positive link between eating good food and cycling. It turned me from a 250lb fatso to 210lb cycle freak with a resting heart rate of 55 and rock hard thighs the size of tree trunks that my wife seems to approve of(she looks amazing too). It took a few years but I am much more chilled out and I have been saving lots of fuel since our car is now only used for vacations. It is great, I can move faster than cars most places except on the highway. It helps that Portland Or metro area likely the bike friendliest city in the USA and public transit allows cycles on busses and light rail.

  380. jog early morning by aakhan · · Score: 1

    yup, that's what i do. i have the similar problem of putting up weight while sitting all day long at home working. therefore, since the past three weeks, i have been waking up early in the morning to jog on and off for anywhere from thirty to forty-five minutes. i can already perceive the difference.

  381. Triathlon by javaxjb · · Score: 1

    Swim, bike, run. The swimmers are the geeks of the athletic world because swimming efficiently requires good analytical skills. The same can be said for cycling, especially if you build or repair your own bike, learn to true wheels, calculate gear ratios, etc. Then there's the planning for each transition and how to distribute your effort throughout (or on a really long course, how to eat while you're on the go [mostly on the bike]). And you might be surprised how many really overweight people are out racing in triathlons. It's very inspiring, even though I've always been underweight to average. I also used to have an aversion to the outdoors. I liked swimming because it was indoors. We have a treadmill, exercise bike, and trainer (to use a real bike) in the basement. Now I can't stand working out indoors (even when it gets well below freezing out). There also seem to be disproportionate numbers of engineers and IT/IS types in triathlon. Ditto for bicycle commuters.

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  382. Balanced approach: Cardio, Muscle and Diet. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I was 145lbs once and could eat anything I wanted and it didn't matter. Then I hit my mid 20's and I started adding on weight. One day I woke up and was 200lbs. What I found to work great is a balanced approach. Cut your caloric intake, add muscle mass, and do cardio! If you do those three things you will do great. But, (for me), I found that if I fail to do just one of these three things, I can't keep the weight off. You need to make a lifestyle change, not just diet for a bit to lose the weight then forget about it. Example: Stop drinking soda. I used to drink 2-3 cans of soda a day. Now I drink 0. Done with soda. Cutting a few hundred calories can go a long way. Its easy for men to gain muscle mass. And having more muscle burns more calories throughout the day. Goto the gym. Honestly, most of the people are JUST LIKE YOU.

  383. DANCE!!! by replication · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Do what I do... get some poundin' beats happening and just dance away at home to them. The neighbours might not fully appreciate your choice of music, but stuff 'em! If you're not into that, could always go to a rave / dance club and dance away. I also walk to and from work every day and own a bike which I take out on weekends.

  384. Diet is most import than the exercise by TheSource1969 · · Score: 1

    Ok forget the gym, it's a waste of money. If you want to do weight training I suggest you get some free weights. If not biking is fine. Get a decent mountain bike. You can bike wherever you go the longer the better. The key here is length of time not always the speed. If you can't talk while you bike easily then you're working too hard. You want aerobic exercise. If you live where there is snow in the winter than you can walk during the winter, trust me you get a good workout walking int the snow. A mountain bike will help you with lean long muscle mass. Try to get at least 30 minutes exercise but one hour is preferable. On the weekend you could go for a few hours it is such a good feeling. Now the most important is the diet. First of all drink at least 8 cups of water through out the day. Start taking coconut oil this will increase your metabolism. Avoid processed foods, especially with sugar and high fat. Stay away from cheese and other high fat foods. Flax oil and olive oil are other healthy oils you should consume. When you first wake up you should drink a cup of water. Then make something to eat. Oatmeal is nice, so is Quinoa. You want high fiber/protein foods which includes grains, fruits and vegetables. Eat plenty of vegetables and fruits. Learn to eat every 2 to 3 hours, 5 to 6 times a day this will increase your metabolism. This trick alone helped me lose 10 lbs with no exercise at all. So let's say you will be consuming 1900 calories which pretty lowest you should go. So you divide that by 6. So you will want to eat about 316 calories every 2 to 3 hours. Fruits are very easy to carry with you so those would be great in between the mail meals. Also when you do exercise do different ones don't just stick with one exercise your body will get used to the same exercise and you won't see the benefits as much. Good luck!

  385. Kettle Bells are the most powerful tool by o2binbuzios · · Score: 1

    I have become a fan of the Kettle Bell - which is a cannonball with a handle. I have done (and continue to do) intense cardio exercise including marathons,triathlons, etc.. and they are great. Off season I have taken to using the kettle bell as my exclusive fitness and it is amazing. Russians have used them for two centuries, and there is a fair amount of hype around them ("Secrets of the Soviet Supermen" ) but the essential fact of swinging a 15-50 pound weight over your head is fast, fun and works both aerobic and anaerobic systems. More info (and hype) here: http://www.dragondoor.com/ You can get similar things for half the price at Target, Sports Authority and such, it is just a lump of lead..but the instructional DVD from Pavel is the best so you may as well pay him the extra $20 or so. I can get a great workout in 15-30 minutes with one piece of equipment the size of a grapefruit and about an 8-9 foot high space to work out in.

  386. A good fidget. by plasmacutter · · Score: 1

    Fidgeting burns calories..

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  387. Well I... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    get my exercise by running to the bathroom after a nice Promyvion(FFXI).

    Also there's a few other things that shouldn't be mentioned(and no it doesn't start with an M or anything along those lines)

  388. What works for me... by Retron · · Score: 1

    Personally, I find that volunteering at a wolf centre each Sunday does the trick for me. A couple of hours spent walking the wolves through woodland seems to keep the weight off!

  389. Diet is important, too! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Remember that diet is important. Myself, I have two grandparents with colon cancer *and* my father has had polyps removed. Colon cancer is one of the most common cancers, despite its lack of media attention.

    Go get an Oster steamer or other easy-to-use and clean steamer appliance for $30. I have a head of broccoli, a carrot, and a sweet pepper (any color but green) for flavoring, plus lemon juice and non-salt seasoning. If you hate the taste of vegetables, steaming and lemon juice will kill the flavor, especially if you steam it for a long while. (This will destroy nutrients, but that's what vitamins are for...)

    Besides increased fiber, I also notice that I eat less carbohydrates this way, removing further calories.

    In addition, I swim an hour almost every day. Swimming is one of the few exercises that works on every muscle of the body, and is good if you have a back problem. And, if you have a comfortable pool, you don't have to deal with sweat. Use a foam "noodle" when you're tired so you can swim at a more relaxed pace.

    Good luck!

  390. lots of things to do by pbgswd · · Score: 1

    I notice that geeks are either blobs or superathletes. One of the simplest things to do is get a dog. That gets you off your but and gives you a social playing card that makes people like you automatically. Otherwise, dont just join a gym, or your interest will wane for a while. Some basic light exercise every day is really important, and you have to do it for quite a while to see any benefit. Then start looking at your diet and increase your vegetable intake. Identify the crap you are eating and get rid of it. Dont be too hard on yourself on this whole process. It will take much longer than you expect.

  391. dance by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Get some psytrance from Jamendo, stretch (especially your neck), turn off the lights, and just dance. An altered state of consciousness helps, but is not necessary.

  392. Geocaching! by realsablewing · · Score: 1

    I also wanted to get in shape and I didn't want to end up at a gym. I decided to go geocaching,, which gives me a reason to go and walk and it uses a high tech item for the search.

    I have slowly lost weight but the biggest difference is increased stamina, i.e. I don't get out of breath going up and down the stairs at work. And I've discovered some nice places to walk in my city. I also walk on a treadmill at home but the outdoor hikes are what has done me the most good.

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    I used to be an adult but then I grew up.
  393. Ashtanga yoga by iamnotaclown · · Score: 2, Interesting

    It's the only time my mind actually shuts off. And it covers all the bases: cardio, strength training, and flexibility. 1.5 hours 3 times a week. And the classes are 75% women.

  394. This has worked for me for several years. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    100% done at home.
    Takes up very little space in my office.
    Takes no more than 30 to 60 minutes.

    You know you spend at least 60 minutes a night in front of the TV. Put a TV in your office or get a SlingBox and exercise while watching. So you know you have NO EXCUSES like not having time, or not being able to get to the Gym.

    Equipment:
          1)Simple Small Weight Bench with Incline Capability

          2)A set of dumbbells, 10 to 50 lbs set.
              And a dumbbell rack that fits against the wall.
              You can buy them by the pound at a local sporting goods store and its cheaper than you think. Get up to 35lbs, and go back for the 40-50 lbs sets when you're stronger ;)

          3)Some kind of Cardio Machine.
              I use an exercise bike, but a treadmill
                    elliptical, or rowing machine is also good
                    Check Sam's/Costco for great deals.

    Regimen:
          Weight Training 4-days per week.
          Cardio 3 days per week.
          Rest for 1 day.
          Note: It's not 8 days, because on Sunday I do Cardio in the Morning, and Weights at night.

    For Weight Training Days I focus on a muscle group, alternating Cardio days.
            Day 1: Cardio and Arms (Sunday)
            Day 2: Cardio
            Day 3: Chest
            Day 4: Cardio
            Day 5: Lower Body
            Day 6: Shoulders
            Day 7: Rest

    I do 6 sets of at least 5 different exercises.
    Add Push-Ups to every day for a great upper-body feel.
    Google around for good dumbbell exercises. Also Look up "Vic's Natural" on YouTube for good demonstrations of exercises.

    Diet: Eat right
                Don't skip breakfast.
                Chicken is your best friend.
                Lots of veggies: Bag Salads are your friend.
                Cut out the crap: (those snacks you eat while coding).
                I also add a protein shake or 2 per day.
                    Get them cheap at Wal-Mart.

    As often as possible Replace your at-home cardio with an actual bike-ride, run, basketball game with friends, some kind of outdoor activity to avoid boredom.

    Take before pictures, weigh yourself once a week, and track your workouts and progress in a spreadsheet.

    Do this for 16 weeks and You Will Feel AWESOME, and you'll never go back.

  395. We just exercise. by oljanx · · Score: 1

    Once you conquer this idea that being a geek and an introvert makes it difficult to exercise, you're home free. Consider an elliptical, they're low impact, compact, and 30mins four days a week does wonders. Beyond that, Find yourself some open space, a nearby nature preserve or hiking trail for example. It's great for the mind as well as the body.

  396. Don't be lazy! by rioch · · Score: 1

    Just as much as you can't develop a full blown application while on the bus, you can't expect incredible results from working out for a few minutes at home. You need to put in some serious effort to see changes. I go four times a week to the gym. I understand that this isn't possible for everyone, but even going just once a week and putting in a solid workout would be better than doing a few situps and pushups every night. Of course, if you are gaining weight, you need to eat less/use more energy. If you want more muscle or more toned muscle, you need to weight train. I'd recommend a three day plan: two days to spend with weights on your entire body, a few sets for each body part, and a third day for some light cardio. Don't forget that with the extra exercise, you might need to eat a little more. Aim for more frequent, but smaller meals.

  397. How I stay in shape by Quiet_Desperation · · Score: 1

    Endless, screaming hot sex with supermodels and starlets.

    Mmmmyep.

    You *did* cash in your options before the tech bubble burst, right?

  398. Bikram Hot Yoga! by ianm.phil · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I do many kinds of exercise (biking, weights, cardio, regular yoga etc.) and have been physically active for many, many years. By far the most effective and pleasing exercise available is Bikram Hot Yoga. It's growing in popularity, so there should be a studio near to you.

    The routine is carefully designed to work from the inside out, top to bottom, and to increase flexibility, strength, and circulation. Almost any ailment you may have will be addressed - its hard to oversell the benefits as it engages the entire body.

    If you google 'hot yoga' or 'bikram' and your area I am sure you can find classes. However, not all hot yoga is Bikram (I have also tried Moksha, for example), but the Bikram routine I find far superior. I would strongly recommend it for everyone as it sheds weight, strengthens muscles, and improves joints considerably.

  399. I use an exercise treadmill in front of my 30" LCD by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    With a wireless mouse I can stay in constant slow motion on this thing for long stretches of time. Otherwise I just swivel my screen 45 degrees and work from the couch.

  400. No time by _Shad0w_ · · Score: 1

    The only exercise I get is walking along railway platforms. When you're commuting for a total of five hours a day, on top of your eight hour working day, there's not much time left for anything other than sleeping and eating.

    Unfortunately the lack of exercise is my major problem.

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    Yeah, I had a sig once; I got bored of it.

    1. Re:No time by russotto · · Score: 1

      Your 5-hour commute is your major problem; the lack of exercise is secondary.

    2. Re:No time by _Shad0w_ · · Score: 1

      Aye; I'm nosing around for jobs closer to home right now. The other alternative is moving to West London, but that just isn't going to happen - I loathe London with a passion.

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      Yeah, I had a sig once; I got bored of it.

  401. Don't exercise, have fun! by Walles · · Score: 1

    To quote Dogbert, I think you misunderstood your question. If you're exercising to get in shape, you're already setting yourself up for a failure.

    You must find something that you enjoy doing, and then do it because it's fun!

    I never exercise. But most weeks I play badminton once, floorball once and volleyball once. During vacations I often go downhill skiing or windsurfing. And somehow I miraculously manage to stay in shape!

    For a more concrete recommendation; take a beginners class in Lindy Hop. It's fun, it's a good workout and you get to meet girls. And there's always a shortage of guys.

    Have fun!

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    Installed the Bubblemon yet?
  402. Stop me if you've heard this one by Trikenstein · · Score: 1
    Oh wait, your serious
    Well here's your answer

    NEEEEERRRDDDS!

    They run from that

  403. *shudder* by oljanx · · Score: 1

    Drink less beer. *shudder*

  404. ...you know I'm training to be a cage fighter... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And in my spare time, I punch out horses... in 2nd Life.

  405. Crossfit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've been doing a program called Crossfit that has really kicked my ass into shape. The bad news is that it requires either going to the gym or buying/building a modest home gym with some basic equipment, and it's also not for the faint of heart (although anyone can do it). The good news is that it's quick (about 30 minutes a day), effective, and fun.

    Crossfit is an exercise program developed by the same trainers that worked with the cast of 300. It focuses on functional movements and intense weightlifting/cardio combination workouts. It keeps things interesting by prescribing a new workout each day. Before this starts sounding too much like something I'm being payed to say, I think I should mention that it's completely free. Check out their website http://www.crossfit.com/. Make sure you look for the scaled workouts on their forums though, the ones they post on the main site are for superhuman monster athletes.

  406. Re:Tai Chi by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What the parent says about Tai Chi is mostly true, but I should add:

    Ive been learning Tai Chi for over a year now, and am only just past Ward Off Right. I have a close friend who has been at it for 8-9 years, and only knows 80-90 moves.

    You are truly doing yourself no favors by rushing to learn all 108.

  407. Simplefit.org, hundredpushups.com by MoeDrippins · · Score: 1

    I've done http://simplefit.org/ for a while, and am now doing the 100 pushups (http://hundredpushups.com). Both done easily enough in the privacy of my own home office, neither take tons of time, and virtually no gear required (I did buy a $19 pullup bar at Target).

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  408. Body for Life by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The "Body for Life" book has a great collection of exercises that can be done with a small set of weights. All of these can be done in the comfort of your own home.

    To maintain great shape though, you will also have to find some way of doing cardio. Swimming or treadmill are a great way to exercise without having to talk with people.

  409. The Geek Workout by topgeek · · Score: 1

    How do geeks workout? Well, with the Geek Workout of course. All it takes is a couple of bottles of Mt. Dew as weights!!!

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    Geek Of The Day, "A geeky place for geeky faces."
  410. US Army Says by Thakandar2 · · Score: 1

    660 posts and its only the third story down? Wow. Hope you get to read this.

    I work in the JAG Corps for the US Army, so I don't get the benefit of long mandatory ruck marches every other week or dismounted patrols, and since I'm not allowed to get in trouble, no "extra" push-ups. So I had to self motivate a bunch to improve my fitness level past the mininum standards.

    The military has all kinds of free resources online if you want to find out what their workout recommendations are. Its good enough to have made millions of people physically fit and lean enough to fight over time. I recommend going here where they break down the actual manuals the US Army and US Marine Corps use. In standard Army fashion, its broken down into super bite size chunks of instructions so any officer can do it.

    Also, check out this PDF file where it outlines a day to day Army regimen for 3 months. It's aimed at people who haven't yet joined the military, but are waiting for their time, like high school seniors, or people waiting on wiavers. It's group oriented, but the majority of it can be done alone.

    Also, most of the exercises are done without anything to assist you. The only two things in the Army they ever use for exercise in addition to your body weight are your weapon, and someone else. So when I exercise in my house, or CHU in Iraq, I do timed sets in this order: situps, push-ups, crunches, wide arm pushups, obliques, close hand push-ups, flutter kicks, dips (on the edge of my bed/cot). I repeat until I can't do 5 of a given exercise. Doesn't take 30 minutes, since I don't rest between sets.

    And for running? Go get a treadmill and listen to podcasts. My wife sends me a CD with a month worth of podcasts that I put on my iPod to listen to. I am entertained enough where I don't mind running in place. But the ideal is to run outside since your joints become stronger from actually running on surfaces that are not perfect, just like free weights versus machines.

    You need to run more than you do muscular endurance training. It's the only way to shed pounds. Run 4 times a week, and do muscular endurance 3, with the third day being when you do both running and muscular endurance on the same day. Rest on Sunday. I've gone from 220lbs in June 2005 to 170lbs today. I could drop to 160 if I didn't have to do any work at all, just exercised and prepared all my own meals, instead of eating at the chow hall.

    My last PT test, I did 80 pushups, 75 situps, each in two minutes, and then ran two miles in 13:45 minutes. And I trained up to that in as little as 4 months while being in Iraq. It works.

  411. Re:Right idea, wrong approach. by hangareighteen · · Score: 1

    The article you reference seems to mostly refer to weightloss
    for obese people and additionaly the difficulties in keeping that
    weight off in the long-term. The OP doesn't have that problem,
    he's just getting a little more spread out in his older age.

    Although, everyone here is right. I shouldn't have said
    "stop lifting." I should have said "Balance your excercise
    out with some cardiovascular routines or other types of
    exercise."

    What I have noticed is that people have differing needs when
    it comes to working out to stay healthy. Which is why I
    consider it a good idea to talk to a professional about your
    own needs and tailor a plan specific to your body.

  412. Here are my two methods by wulffi · · Score: 1

    1. Bike to work
    2. Do 30-60 minutes of Wii-Fit every day.

    So far I have lost 10 kg over the last 90 days this way.

  413. DDR and Weights by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I am lucky to have a weight bench with machine weights for about $50 used.

    I also put together a cool system for my laptop. I downloaded Stepmania (Dance Dance Revolution for the computer) and installed about 700 songs and play on that every night. I haven't done it long enough to loose weight yet, but I've seen many news stories about ppl losing weight playing DDR. Also I bought a metal dance pad. I don't use the cloth as they are useless or need much modding before they can handle the heavy aerobic exercise without lifting up with your feet or just falling apart. The dance pad was around $200. Don't buy anything cheaper cause they are just not worth it for exercising. The software is free and I already own the computer.

  414. Fitness Misinformation?...not on Slashdot. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Weight Training will build muscle and increase your metabolism, thereby increasing the number of calories burnt while sitting idly by at a computer. It's good to mix weight training(to increase the sedentary metabolism) and cardio(to burn calories effectively and keep your heart adn lungs strong). Don't misinform people that one is better than the other. If you're serious about maintaining a healthy body you need a proper mix of both.

  415. It sounds more difficult than it is. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Personally, I left weights twice a day, for about 20-30 minutes a pop. Simple excercises that work multiple muscles, one for the bicepts/tricepts/quadricepts, and one for my abs (situps are bad for the back). The fun part about doing excersises that work many muscles rather than focusing on one is that I can use minimal weights and get nice and toned without bulking up.

    I walk almost everywhere I go, or at least make it a point to walk the parts of my trip which are in walking range, rather than take a bus to get there, while lugging around my backpack and 10-lbs knee-high combat boots.

    I rollerblade, power-skating style (like you learn to do in atom-level hockey) to further destinations, works wonders for the legs and cardio, though a bike would be more convenient, and would extend my range considerably.

    There's beer-league outdoor hockey in the winter.

    And there's the wednesday nights dancing virtually nonstop from roughly 21h00 to 3h00, again, in knee-highs. if you've seen Batcave-style dancing, you know it's a full-body workout.

    There's eating healthy. Not eating enough is just as harful as eating too much (more harmful, I'd say, since your stomach doesn't start eating itself when you overeat).

    And finally, there's the girlfriend and/or boyfriend, yeah yeah, this is Slashdot, where people don't get laid, but whatever, fix the intoverted thing, beer-league and actually going outside to excercise helps with that.

  416. Strength training for agoraphobes by sevenfactorial · · Score: 1

    It sounds like you want to weight train. Clearly there are problems with doing that at home. There are gyms that cater to women's sensitivities about being observed during exercise (eg Curves) but none for men, as far as I know. If you are a woman, then go to Curves. If you are not a woman, and you have flex time, I recommend going to the gym about 10 in the morning. I think it's likely you'll be virtually alone. If you are resolute about staying home, then it sounds like you need something like Bowflex, or a small private "garage gym." Consider getting advice from a professional, such as a personal trainer. This is a one-time expense that may have lasting benefits.

  417. Yogamazing.com video podcast by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So do what I do: learn yoga on the internet. Yep, I'm serious. I'm a naturally thin sometime computer programmer like you; though programming is not the name of my field, it certainly takes the bulk of my time, and I've been developing the posture to show for it. Going to the gym is no longer convenient for me either, since I don't like the inconvenience and overhead of changing clothes and running down to the gym and back in the evening. So two years ago I took up yoga, yielding reluctantly to my sister's recommendation over my misgivings (doesn't doing yoga turn you into a hippie??). It has profoundly changed my body and my body image; from the start, week by week I found aches and pains disappearing, my gait smoothing, a hitch in my hips gone. My posture improved too. And then much to my surprise, it has been changing my body shape. I have added breadth to my shoulders and definition to my upper back; my middle is thinner, my thighs are squaring up, and without more props than a mat to sweat all over. I've nerdishly measured my heart rate to stay steady between 150 and 180 once I get warmed up, too.

    Here's the best part: you can do what I did and learn yoga for free from a video podcast, in the privacy of your own home. Regular guy Chaz from Kentucky has been putting out a weekly 20-30 minute yoga lesson as a video podcast for several years now, and it's free and available either through iTunes or from yogamazing.com . I've saved a library of old podcasts and usually go through two or three at a time. I can't say enough good about Chaz, the podcast, or yoga as exercise for the shy nerd.

  418. Or StepMania ;-) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Or StepMania, which means you can run it on your normal computer and have a wider selection of songs! ~ nazonazo mitaini chikyuugiwo tokiakashitara - minnade dokomademo ikerune? ~ Oh, did I mention it's free software?

    1. Re:Or StepMania ;-) by ClioCJS · · Score: 1

      except that it's over-sensitive, making it less fun. I can do medium on most songs in DDR, but give me the exact same arrows on stepmania, on the exact same pads, and I can't do it. I then have to go to easy level, which is less challenging, and less fun. So much for the $15 I spent at Lik-Sang on that dancepad-to-PC adapter....

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  419. Here's a routine by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you have the money go out and pick up a set of dumbbells and maybe a bench. Here's a routine http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/randy29.htm (don't let the "bodybuilding" scare you away the routine is for beginners) Resistance training is supposed to boost your metabolism, so it (combined with cardio) is typically the best way to lose fat. You could do the above routine 3 days a week on non-consecutive days in the comfort of your own home and it would probably only take about an hour or so.

      As for cardio you could walk, run, bike, maybe purchase an exercise bike if your climate isn't hospitable for walking/running/biking all year round. You could do cardio every day if you want to, but that might be extreme, maybe just on days you're not lifting weights.

  420. Swing dancing! by FleaPlus · · Score: 1

    It sounds kind of non-geeky at first, but for the past several years I (and many other geeks) have found swing dancing an excellent way to take care of both exercise and socialization with one stone. I actually started with DDR, and somehow ended up transitioning from that to actual dancing...

    For whatever reason, there seems to be a surprisingly large amount of overlap between the populations of geeks and swing dancers -- maybe it's because swing dancing is a rather interesting finite state machine? In my experience the number of IT and programming folks in the swing dance community is quite high compared to the general populace.

    Swing dancing involves a wide range of muscle groups, and can be quite athletic, especially when one is dancing the more fast-paced variants like Lindy Hop or Jive. Also, many of the best swing dancers are rather heavy-set, so having a large amount of weight isn't thought of negatively in the scene. An added bonus to swing dancing is that there's usually a drastic surplus of women and a shortage of men, so it's an excellent way to meet women. ;)

  421. Just do it by spinkham · · Score: 1

    It doesn't matter too much what you do, just get your heart rate up for at least 30 minutes per day.
    I recommend getting out of your house, walking/jogging/running/bike riding.
    If you really can't bear the sunshine, you can try the 5bx program, it was developed by the canadian military for desk bound people who need to be fit.
    http://www.gettingfitagain.com/5bx.php

    As a side note, I joined a gym this year, and am really enjoying use of the machines and classes as well as the childcare to give me the time to do it in the first place.
    Not all gyms are scary places, there are often local gyms that cater different audiences, and you could probably find one where you would fit in.

    --
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  422. Running by terminal.dk · · Score: 1

    Use a threadmill with 2% incline. Or go outside and run. Many many IT people are running these days. It is good execise, gives blood to the brain, more daily energy etc.

    And if you run more than about 45 minutes, your body will actually start prioritizing fat over sugar as energy (being afraid the muscles will steal all sugar from the brain). The first 5-10 times you go over the magic point, you will probably feel dizy and very tired. Try to get at least one 10-15 km run in per week, and then 2 times 30-40 minutes to keep in shape.

    1. Re:Running by geekoid · · Score: 1

      "...you will probably feel dizy and very tired."
      Or you are having a coronary event.

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  423. Exercise? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ah, these repetitive mouse clicks sure do the trick.

  424. Re:Technical explanation; didn't rtfa. by EvanED · · Score: 4, Funny

    (Disclaimer: I'm no scientist. Well, a computer scientist. But that doesn't apply here.)

    Don't you mean "Damn it, I'm a computer scientist, not a doctor"?

  425. suggested links by Aggrav8d · · Score: 1

    Stronglifts 5x5 - http://stronglifts.com/stronglifts-5x5-beginner-strength-training-program/
    The Hacker's Diet - http://www.fourmilab.ch/hackdiet/www/hackdiet.html

    I used these two as a guide and have gone from 6'2" 165lbs squatting 100lbs to squatting 210lbs in less than three months. Feels awesome.

  426. Exercycle while reading wikipedia by dafing · · Score: 1
    I cant stress the benefits enough :) I was fat all my childhood, for no particular reason, when I picked up an Exercycle my father had bought and never used. I started off sweating at only 10KM at a time (6 miles?) but got up to doing 80+KM a day (50 miles) for a few months. I still exercycle, am actually sitting on it right now :), and normally aim for roughly 1500 calories a day (63KM) or as much as I have time for.

    I got a newer Exercycle, only cost $350 NZ, lets say $300 American, and I have lost an incredible amount of weight, I couldnt be more grateful. And now I dont even notice my feet pedalling at 35+KM an hour, I just read my Wikipedia entries etc that have built up :)

    I hope at least one person who would like to lose weight reading this decides to give this a shot :) Its easy, just start with say 10KM a day and work it up over a few months. Good luck!

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  427. just be active by binford2k · · Score: 1

    Just *do* something that you find fun enough to keep up. Unless you're really into pushups, they won't last. I play tennis (hard!) for at least an hour a day and I walk or bike to work.

    Also, don't be a lazy ass. Walk up the stairs.

    Do you really need someone to tell you this?

  428. Take one of those active weight training classes by ceoyoyo · · Score: 1

    When you start it looks for all the world (at least the legs portion) like aerobics with barbells, but it's an incredibly good workout, both for cardio and resistance training. Plus your class is likely to be all women, most in good shape, except perhaps for the odd male elite athlete. As a side benefit, the all women thing will help tone down the pathological introversion a bit.

  429. Dance sport! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Apart from biking everywhere, my non-geek hobby is dancing. Started with Scandinavian folk dance and standards (Foxtrot, Tango, Waltz), now also learning Rock&Swing (Boogie-Woogie and Lindy Hop).
    I consider dance sport a superb overall exercise, and it also improves memory, agility and balance aswell as social skills and self confidence. Yes, and there are lots of girls at the dance practise.

  430. Shoplifting by illama · · Score: 1

    Everyone here keeps talking about weight lifting or other types of exercise. There's a better way.

    Shoplifting

    Hear me out ...
    If you get away with it, your heart rate will be racing so fast. That's got to count as some kind of super workout (without the physical strain!).

    If you do get caught, you'll have REAL motivation to RUN, RUN, RUN!

  431. Step aerobics in private by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Step aerobics at home is cheap (even the brand name Reebok step is not too expensive) and quiet. Find a boring routine from the internet that doesn't strain anything and do it while watching TV.

  432. Oblig. Futurama quote by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    New! windowless rooms for ugly exercisers!

  433. In a basement... by magus_melchior · · Score: 1

    Good suggestions from the comments, and I'll add one that I'm trying as a start:

    A Hundred Push-ups

    The intent, if I read the site correctly, is a simple regimen to (re)introduce fitness training principles into one's life, and to build confidence. After struggling to lift water bottles at my office, I figured this would be a good way to start.

    Emphasis on start, as neither I nor the site will claim that this will turn you into Conan-era Schwarzenegger, or Richard Simmons.

    --
    "We are Microsoft. You shall be assimilated. Competition is futile."
  434. There is only on thing to remember. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    All people are lazy, especially when it comes to physical training. In my opinion the most important thing to remember when starting an exercise programme is that it is never the single work-out that is important. The only important thing is that you want to do exercise tomorrow as well.

    In short I think many people (I have been one of them) start working out with some kind of efficiency thinking, when in fact you should concentrate on keeping up the good behavior.

    And also running is not suitable for everyone. Walking is enough for many people who are not in good shape.

    Also, buy good shoes. If the shoes are cheap, they are not good.

  435. Exercise in a geek way by moogaloonie · · Score: 1

    Archive the data on a couple old Amigas. Place the Amigas on one side of the room (A 2000 and a 4000) and locate your primary computer opposite of them. Then proceed to archive both Amigas' harddrives to your primary machine via floppy disk. When you start to find the workout becoming less challenging, begin moving the Amigas farther away, perhaps even to the bathroom. If even this starts becoming effortless, limit yourself to one diskette. Oh, and don't forget the 2000's other SyQuest cartridge in the box I provided.

  436. Professional Help by PenGun · · Score: 1

    I'm 61. Squat 150, dead 150, curl 45 ... I'm a strong old man. Go here:

    http://exrx.net/WeightTraining/Instructions.html

  437. Deck of Cards by greenlead · · Score: 1

    Use a standard deck of playing cards. Each suit represents an exercise, and each value represents the number of repetitions.

    Shuffle and enjoy.

    An example: http://www.ehow.com/how_2100794_cardio-circuit-workout-deck-cards.html

  438. Gyms are perfect for introverts by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    Yes, I too find it completely effective to dismiss stated the preferences and core personality characteristics of others rather than taking them seriously.

    He is taking them seriously. The gym is the perfect place for an introvert.

    Put on headphones. No-one there wants to talk to you, at all. Many of the people there are already introverts so it's not like you're alone.

    It would be ideal to go to a non meat-market gym (like Ballys), find something like a local community gym. They are cheaper anyway. If you don't have to talk to a trainer to join, you've found the best place.

    --
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  439. Get a book by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Get a big book. Get a really big book. Now, pick it up to start reading it. Put it down again. Pick it up. Put it down. Rinse, repeat.

  440. No. by AdamWill · · Score: 1

    "Do any Slashdotters have a regular workout routine that can be performed in the privacy of the home to stave off those pounds?"

    No. And frankly, that would be really rather damn depressing, wouldn't it?

    You live (I guess) in the United States, so - let's see, how to put this - even if you're a tad over the optimum weight for your height, you are hardly going to represent a shocking sight to the local populace, let's face it. Get your ass outside and do something in the open air. Also, I find it a bit odd that just because you self-identify as a 'geek', your exercise must be geeky. Huhwha? I work for a Linux company. For exercise I play tennis most days and swim 2-4km every two to three days. Exercise isn't rocket science - just do something that tires you out, for an extended period of time. Voila, exercise! Best make it something you enjoy, otherwise you'll start to hate it in a remarkably short period of time, which for me at least rules out just about every form of 'indoor exercise' because they're repetitive, restricted and involve absolutely zero mental effort.

    BTW, when people say they 'don't have time' to exercise, this usually means they don't want to, and not having time is a convenient excuse. It's amazing how few people 'don't have time' to watch TV, or read Slashdot.

  441. Walk to work! by kkretsch · · Score: 1

    I know, this sounds funny for any US citicen. But just walk to your office, don't take a car or bus. And walk home for dinner and back to the office again. And walk for shopping in the supermarket. No fake, I do all this here.

  442. First guess by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Barely.

  443. Re:Get out. Have some fun. by gregbot9000 · · Score: 1

    Motivation is the killer. I found the only way to workout at the home was to completly internalize it as a habit. That means I get up and flop on the floor for push ups and other exercises first off. The only times I don't do it is when I wake up hung over. A great motivator is if you keep with it enough to see results. Once that happens it's like a chain reaction where you can't stop exercising to see what else gets unveiled by the receding fat.

    Heres something I haven't seen mentioned yet: cycling while intoxicated is like barely illegal. I often engage in bar hoping on a bike. The only problem is your bike can go missing, and you have to convince the women to take you to their car. Though seeing as you're an introvert that probably isn't a problem.
    Ohh and you might get killed. I forget that part a lot. Thats kind of a selling point to me though.

  444. The simple secrets to healthy weight loss by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm 31, train two to three times week and am currently at 16% body fat (translation very healthy body fat level, with 6 pack etc). My job is a very sedentry IT job.

    The four key items are
    1) Quality not quantity
    2) Consistency
    3) Slow and steady
    5) Adjust your eating

    1) Quality not quantity

    I have friends that go to gym/train every day and complain they aren't losing weight. The simple reason is they aren't doing quality excercise they are just wasting their time. Excercise (of any kind) is most effective at a certain level of intensity. A trainer is the best person to show you what this means. It will hurt at first until your body and mind adapt.

    2) Consistency

    This is important. Once you have your metabolism revved up you have to keep it running. Consistency forms habit, once excercise is a habit it becomes second nature.

    3) Slow and steady

    Weight lost quickly tends to bounce back. Weight lost slowly tends to stay gone for a number of reasons. Set reasonable goals for yourself. The first 6 - 12 weeks don't expect to see massive results as it takes time to properly build up your core fitness. Difference people lose weight at different rates, find what is comfortable for you and stick to it long term. Your results will be more permanent this way.

    4) Adjust your eating

    Excercise alone will improve quality of life(increased balance,stamina,strength,wellbeing). But to lose weight you have to drop your calory intake to less than your output. There are some simple rules for this.

    - Eat six times a day (smaller meals more regularly increase your metabolism).

    - Have a snack before bedtime (Research it if you don't beleive me)

    Eat these
    - Lots of fruit and veg
    - Lean meat in moderation
    - Small amounts of wholegrain cereals

    Avoid these if you can
    - Refined sugers
    - Refined carbs (anything with white flour)

    My personal recipe

    Excercise

    My preference is a combination of weights and cardio. The reasoning behind this cardio becomes more effecting the more lean muscle you have. Also improvements in core stabilizing muscles from the weights help huge amounts with the cardio workouts.

    I see a personal trainer once a week to correct my technique and remind me what a quality workout is.

    Tuesday - 1/2 Hour weights/strength session with trainer

    Thursday - 1 hour at Gym (30min cardio, 30 min weights)

    Sat - Cardio min 30min max 1 hour (depending on how I feel)

    Mental tricks

    I don't excercise at home. Because of the convenience I find it's too easy to put it off.

    If I don't feel like excercising I do the following.
    - Tell myself I'll just go to the gym for a light session to keep the routine.
    - Once I'm at the gym and warmed up I tend to find I just go "hell I'm here now, mayswell do it properly".

    Eating

    A typical days food for me (ie today)

    Breakfast - Soft poached eggs on multigrain toast no butter + Essential cappucino

    Morning tea - Cheese and tomato on multigrain crackers with salt and pepper + Second Essential cappucino

    Lunch - Chicken and salad sandwich no butter

    Afternoon tea - Green apple, can of tuna (tomato and onion flavor) and a handful of roast almonds

    Dinner - Grilled lambchops (two small chops) with a large salad and some couscous.

    Bedtime snack - Bananna and warm milk

  445. Re:Tai Chi by redGiraffe · · Score: 1

    You won't necessarily burn off fat to the same extent as other exercises, but as a group we tend to be sitting in front of computers for years and getting really bad posture. If you combine that with exercising hard now without correcting your posture you are going to hurt something.

    The other advantage of Tai Chi is that you will become more aware of your body and what your body needs (e.g. diet and exercise).

    Make sure you get a good school and don't be afraid to ask about lineage, there are a lot of iffy teachers out there and you can damage your body if you do it wrong.

    Be prepared to learn patience though, this is not like picking up a manual.

  446. be lazy by maudface · · Score: 1

    Be lazier, I simply can't be arsed to eat most of the time so consume only about a thousand calories a day, given my sedentary lifestyle this results in me being a twig.

  447. WI: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I think Wii should work fine for geeks:) You can get a pretty good workout and retain the geek-factor.
    Do it long enough and You can actually become Uber-Geek:P

  448. Simple - P90X! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I am 1/3 of the way through my first round of P90X and I can see a change in my muscles already.

    www.beachbody.com

  449. Re:Technical explanation; didn't rtfa. by packeteer · · Score: 4, Informative

    Having greater muscle volume does lead to greater calories burned without doing anything. This however is a pretty small gain. With aerobic exercise you can burn a ton of calories and most importantly you directly burn fat. When you burn the short term energy stores (sugar) of the body it effects you hunger. When you directly burn fat you feel less hungry after working out. This is why aerobic exercise is best for losing weight. Resistance training will work but it takes more will power.

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  450. The AutoCAD way by TClevenger · · Score: 1

    John Walker, one of the founders of Autodesk, has a pretty easy looking plan in his book, The Hacker's Diet . I haven't tried it myself, but I would if I didn't have wooden floors. :-)

  451. Heart Rate Monitor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The exercise I had was running. It didn't start out that way. I was very unfit.
    However I had the sense to get a heart rate monitor.
    Effectivly running /(walking) at 70% or you maximum heart rate. for about 30-45 minutes 2-3 time a week.

  452. Check out Body Combat, it rocks by level4 · · Score: 1

    There have already been about a million comments about aerobic vs. weight training exercise, so I won't repeat that too much, but one thing I "discovered" which really helped is the Les Mills group exercise programs, especially my favourite, Body Combat.

    It's basically doing martial arts moves to dance music. I'm a highly self-conscious introvert as well, so I could never get into any group exercise in the past, but BC is kind of "cool enough" that I feel less like some dick doing aerobics and more like a Shaolin monk doing a monastery training routine.

    You might find it a little intimidating at first, so I would recommend, uh, grabbing some of the recent videos via bittorrent *cough* so you can check it out and get up to speed on the kind of moves you'll be seeing. I recommend grabbing the latest (36) off mininova or something. Watch it, go along with the moves until you're comfortable, and then find a gym nearby that supports it.

    You might be surprised by how fun it is - and you can't beat doing it at a gym, with the super loud music and peer pressure to put in the effort. You will feel a lot less gay doing martial arts moves to music than the usual aerobics fare. Plus the people you'll find there are also usually pretty cool.

    Plus, as everyone said already, ride everywhere you possibly can. If you can't ride in your area, vote with your feet (wheels?) and *move*. When I used to live in Japan I was about 5kg less than my current (western) location simply because riding everywhere was actually more convenient than any other method. That is the way it should be and now I try to match my lifestyle to the Japanese "experience" as much as possible. There's a reason fat Japanese are rare; less cars, basically.

    Don't eat food which is ridiculously laden with fat - especially savoury fatty foods which are deceptive because you don't think of them as sweets. Chief offenders are things like pizza and crisps. Any food which is actually physically heavy is suspect and should probably be limited. Turn down all of that, and turn up the salads, and you might be surprised just how easy it is to keep the weight off and stay decently trim.

    Eat reasonable food, ride or walk around as much as possible, and go to the gym a couple of times a week - chances are you'll have lost the weight and keep it off pretty quickly.

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  453. Damn right! by coder111 · · Score: 1

    I haven't had that much fun exercising before I started my Krav Maga training.

    Kicks to the groin & elbows to the face FTW!

    --Coder

  454. Skip Dinner by Silas+is+back · · Score: 1

    If it's only about loosing weight - skip dinner. it's not easy sometimes, but do that a few months and those pounds will be wiped. Plus you have more time in the evening.

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  455. An introvert myself by chickenwing · · Score: 1

    I have been addicted to working out the last 9 years. There is no substitute for getting out of your house and going somewhere to exercise. Getting started is the hardest part, but after you start showing up regularly for a few weeks it will be old hat. It might also be helpful to keep in mind that nobody is paying attention to you anyway.

    I suggest joining a gym and making a commitment to yourself to show up 3x a week. It might be a good idea to find a time when the gym is less crowded, for example after 8, when the after work crowd is leaving.

    Start with machines, do a little of everything hitting all body parts. Finish off with 20 minutes of cardio. At this point it is getting your body used to weight training. Meanwhile, start reading about weight training on the internet, books, magazines. You can then start incorperating what you learn and figure out what you are trying to accomplish.

    For me, working out regularly has given me a more positive outlook on life, a better body image, and less stress. I am not a super social person, but just going somewhere with other people around gives me a better feeling than spending the night sitting around my apartment.

  456. Bike. by w4rl5ck · · Score: 1

    Bike. Don't do it at home, get some sunlight/fresh air. You won't crumble to dust.

    I don't do it on a very regular base, just about once a week, but if you get to something like 30km twice a week, you'll gain a lot of stamina, and of course loose some weight.

    I like biking (fresh air, not some nonesense machine in the basement) because

    - you can do it on your own
    - it's really simpel, you don't even have to do a lot of warm-up - just start slowly
    - it's fairly easy to keep the strain at good levels for your training, pulse between 130 and 140 and stuff
    - you almost never will have any problems with muscle ache the next day, even if you drove a longer distance

    Of course, this is not an option if you live in central New York, because of, well less fresh air and no really nice riding places?

    ~:-o

  457. Play video games, man ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    just play video games. www.stepmania.com

  458. Re:'Gamercize' Cardio at Our Desk by ukepyper · · Score: 1

    I can easily walk miles while staring at a DS or PSP

    Until getting run over :)

    I use the gamercize that I got from thinkgeek after reading about it on slashdot... 'Gamercize' Cardio at Our Desk

  459. Pilates by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Pilates. Seriously. I started it when I got a bit older and started to listen to people telling me it was time to shift from emphasis on weight lifting toward flexibility. I can't get my head around yoga. But a masseuse told me Pilates is "Yoga for Geeks". I tried it. I love it. Get an instructor, learn, then do it on your own. Use the special equipment at the instructor's place, but you can do very effective mat work on your bedroom floor.

    Think Yoga + calisthenics + isometrics + stretching + universal gym. It's really really really hard to hurt yourself. None of the exercises is high-rep. None is particularly strenuous. But after a 45 minute workout, you're completely wiped. It's great.

  460. Still going strong by Smivs · · Score: 1

    One of the best exercise thingies ever is the
    Bullworker.
    I've had one for around 30 years and it (and me) are both still going strong. It takes about 10 minutes a day, you can do it at home in privacy.
    Great invention!

  461. Same goes for by Chrisje · · Score: 1

    Climbing Mount Everest, K9, Mont Blanc and the Matterhorn all in a space of 2 months without the help of 200 carriers.

    On a serious note, doing strenuous exercise in a place where there are lower levels of oxygen in the air will do wonders for your metabolism and stamina, and it will make you feel like a God down in the city.

    As long as you don't live in La Paz, that is.

  462. Sport for introverts by backwardMechanic · · Score: 2, Informative

    After finishing school, I was convinced I hated sport. What I actually don't enjoy are team sports, but that is all I really encountered at school. But there are a whole selection of sports that are a lot of fun by yourself, far more suited to an introvert. I used to orienteer - dashing around the woods by yourself with a map is fun, physical and works your mind at the same time. Trekking is often done best by yourself (or at least I prefer it that way) - you can spend days without meeting another sole if you can find the time. Cycling is also perfect. I've never got into road racing, but touring and mountain biking are fun and it easy to do a few mile after work in the summer. Get outside - there are less people around than you might expect and it's good for the sole. I find it gives my eyes a break and helps me focus on things further away than a monitor too.

    1. Re:Sport for introverts by Sobrique · · Score: 1

      ... you can spend days without meeting another sole if you can find the time.

      Is that when you meet a pair of boots coming the other way?

    2. Re:Sport for introverts by apt142 · · Score: 2, Informative

      I'm a highly introverted person and I found that Martial Arts worked well for me. The goals are internally focused, since your success or failure depends on you. Most will teach you exercises that you can carry on your own. It builds confidence. And there is just enough desire to keep up with your class mates that you stay motivated.

      Of course, the downside is they are expensive and you can get some really bad teachers.

    3. Re:Sport for introverts by iank · · Score: 1

      I was pretty introverted and didn't particularly enjoy team sports at school either. Fifteen years after leaving school and having only done introverted sports like rock climbing and mountain biking, I joined a friendly rowing club.

      It was the best thing I ever did - social contact, structure in my life (getting out of the house instead of surfing slashdot) and the best fitness I ever had was just a bonus.

    4. Re:Sport for introverts by Patik · · Score: 1

      Trekking is often done best by yourself (or at least I prefer it that way) - you can spend days without meeting another sole

      Barefoot marathon running is another way to exercise without meeting a sole.

      Get outside - there are less people around than you might expect and it's good for the sole.

      So is... aw, never mind.

    5. Re:Sport for introverts by MrNiceguy_KS · · Score: 1

      I'll second the Martial Arts recommendation. I had gone 10 years without any regular exercise. (P.E. was only required the first 2 years of High School.) I had been gradually gaining weight and inches since getting a desk job. I was edging toward 190 pounds and starting to buy my pants with a 36" waist. (Not that big, I know, but on my body it wasn't good. When I started the desk job, I was about 130 pounds and 32" waist.)

      I started taking classes at a local Martial Arts school and in the first 3 months I lost about 20 pounds. By 6 months, I was down to about 155 and back into my old 32" pants. I feel so much better and my only regret is that I didn't start back in high school. Aside from the physical benefits, I definitely could have used the confidence.

      You're right about the expense, though. I just had to talk to my instructor about dropping classes at the end of September. My daughter's dance classes went up again and something had to give.

      As for bad teachers, I've only been to one school, but I've seen other schools give demos where their black belts looked worse than our mid-level students. Definitely try a few classes before you sign up. Also find out how often you can belt test. If it's every month, they're probably just using testing fees to bring in more money and they've got a bunch of black belts that don't know anything.

      Any /.ers in south-central Kansas looking for a good Martial Arts school, feel free to email me. jlitwiller at google's webmail service.

      --
      Redundancy is good And also good.
  463. Getting Fit for Geeks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Wow looks like this Q really touched a nerve with the Slash.Geeks, I'm sure pulling the chickens head off will help lose a few pounds, not sure if this is the best way to exercise but it's enjoyable.

  464. Canadian Airforce 5BX program by james_bray · · Score: 2, Informative

    From Wikipedia:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5BX

    "The 5BX (Five Basic Exercises) Plan is an exercise program developed for the Royal Canadian Air Force (RCAF) by Bill Orban in the late 1950s.

    The RCAF asked Orban to develop a fitness program for their pilots, a third of whom were not considered fit to fly at the time. The plan was innovative in two respects. Firstly, it did not require access to specialized equipment. Many RCAF pilots were located in remote bases in northern Canada, with no access to gymnasium facilities, so it was important to offer a means of keeping fit without their use. Secondly, the plan only required 11 minutes per day to be spent on the exercises."

    The program can be downloaded in PDF form from the following location:

    http://www.adam.com.au/wedesign/5bx.zip

    James Bray

    --
    http://www.reeb.freeserve.co.uk
  465. Audio books by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Another Idea for sporting geeks, Audio books! I an bored of doing the same routin in the jim or bike riding to work, but I listen Martin, Prachett and Asimov, so time flies by.
    You can also get many course on tape and learn greek mitholegy or basic phisics while training.

  466. Zen and the Art of Self-Resistence by nukey56 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Self-resistence isometric and isotonic training. Costs nothing, builds muscle efficiently, surprises your friends and balances your life. Also, you can do it while posting to /. from your basement ;)

    1. Re:Zen and the Art of Self-Resistence by shmert · · Score: 1

      Or, just get a desk you stand up at. Be sure to get one of those squishy mats to stand on. You'll find that you move around more, and burn more calories, and actually get hungry around lunch time.

      When I worked sitting in a chair all day, I could go all day without eating or moving, like some kind of befingered slug. Now I'll pace around when I'm thinking, and it actually feels like a break to sit down and have lunch.

      --
      You drank my drink, you drunk!
  467. P90x by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have recently invested in P90x which is available at www.beachbody.com and it has worked for me and a few of my friends.

  468. aside from bicycling? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    i cycle everywhere, every day, that helps.

    but really, get a 20$ pullup bar. you can stretch your back, and work your arms/abs/legs there

  469. And find a friend by cheros · · Score: 1

    Find someone else who has more or less the same time of attendance. The idea is that you both get each other to go, so on an off day you will still get a call. Helps when your motivation isn't quite there that day.

    Alternatively, find a sport you like. If you want your head to work as well as your body, do Tai Chi. If you want a physical workout but hate a gym, find a place where they teach climbing. Etc etc. Adjust your activity to suit yourself because if you don't like it, even the best motivation wears thin after a while.

    And good luck :-)

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    Insert .sig here. Send no money now. Owner may sue, contents will settle. Batteries not included.
  470. Cool Exercise Routine by Vinrute · · Score: 1

    Read the book Escape Your Shape by Edward Jackowski. He's the original guy who divided people into four body types (hourglass, cone, spoon, and ruler). The whole book's worth reading, since he talks about why warm-ups and stretching are actually important, and helps you sort out which body type you are. Then for each body type he describes (and has pictures) of 3 workouts that are beginner, intermediate, and advanced. All can be done at home or in a hotel room. You sound like a ruler, 'cause you were naturally thin but started to gain weight (probably in the stomach and butt) as you got older. So your exercises are designed to take off the extra weight, build up your muscles, and strengthen your abs and hamstrings, since rulers tend to have a bit of back pain caused by weak abdominals. I really can't recommend the book enough. It takes about two hours to read and you can do all the exercises from home. Give it a shot for a month or so and if you see good results, stick with it, if not, you didn't do any harm.

  471. Simplefit also! by thrope · · Score: 1

    http://simplefit.org/ This program is based on crossfit principles (worth reading up on) but uses simple exercises that you can do in your house (no equipment). By geeks and for geeks! You easily track your performance and there is a supportive community. Great way to get started if you're not near a crossfit gym and all the olympic lifts looks a bit daunting.

  472. Ashtanga asanas by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hu9Sq1RvuoA

  473. workout by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    www.rockbodyfitness.com I've been doing this guy's workout. The equipment needed is minimal, or stuff you can find around the house, and can be done in the privacy of your own home.

  474. Best way to lose weight? by BBF_BBF · · Score: 1

    It's quite obvious, and I'm not trying to a smart ass about it... the best way to lose weight is to EAT LESS. It's really that simple. More exercise doesn't usually help people lose weight because people generally eat more when the exercise more. However aerobic exercise does make you healthier.

  475. Manual Labor and Sports by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My favorite way to stay in shape is to do some manual labor. Being a programmer it is a rare gift to set out to do a task and actually finish it and feel some sense of accomplishment.

    A friend of mine runs a Tile Flooring wearhouse, so when he gets stuck working a saturday i'll go help him move some 100 lb boxes around so he can get out of there sooner. Usually get paid in beer and Green's fees.

    Personally I find running for the sake of running boring and can't make myself do it, especially on a treadmill. So for cardio I prefer paintball; being a life long FPS player paintball was a great fit. Lots of running and you get to bone up for your next Halo session.

  476. The Hacker's Diet! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    John Walker's "The Hacker's Diet" includes a really good 15 minute progressive daily exercise routine that can be done anywhere, as well as an excellent technique for losing weight and keeping it off (clue - eat less!).

  477. yoga, but pick the right style by Gunstick · · Score: 1

    When I started to do yoga, I rediscovered my body.

    Previously it was just a means to transport my brain from point A to point B and to control my fingers as brain-computer interface.
    Now yoga showed me that there is more.

    Choose the right style though, there are from simple meditation to strong aerobic styles.
    In my opinion Power, Ashtanga, Iyengar are most demanding. In the USA, Power Yoga is well established. In Europe look for Ashtanga Yoga.

    --
    Atari rules... ermm... ruled.
  478. Dance! by chrono325 · · Score: 1

    Depending on how much weight you want to lose, something like Ballroom dance can be a great way to get some extra exercise. It's nowhere near as much of a workout as biking, running or lifting, but it is also a lot more interesting, and can be a surprising amount of exercise.

    While I wouldn't say that being introverted is necessarily a "problem," if it's something you want to address, being more confident in your physical presence (especially in relation to another person) can make you feel better about being out in front of people.

    It's a life-long skill, and I know of at least a few people who have started dancing competitively at around 50 to 60 and done quite well.

  479. Train like a geek and look like one! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why do you want to train like a geek?
    Do you to look like one?

    Well I for one don't, and I take my advice
    from OL-lifters, Powerlifters and gymnasts.
    Lots of info can be found online.

    Geeks tend to focus to much on burning calories.
    Focus more on strengthening muscles and joints
    using free weights and even bodyweight by doing
    whole body movements / functional stuff.

    Best of luck.

  480. Ultimate by chetbox · · Score: 1

    Play Ultimate (http://www.ukultimate.com/what) It's so fun that I make time for it and I don't even notice the great work-out I get while playing.

  481. Partner Dancing by Thangalin · · Score: 1

    Lindy Hop.

    L.A., Seattle, San Francisco, New York, Montreal, Ottawa, Toronto, Vancouver, Victoria, Melbourne, Sydney, Stockholm, Seoul, Tokyo, and scores of other cities around the world have dance nights that are swarming with engineers.

    Lindy Hop challenges both mind and body. As a Lead, you have to be aware of where all the other people around you are dancing; you have to choreograph an interesting sequence of moves in real-time (sometimes to songs you don't know); you have to know how to lead a variety of moves; you have to make the movement fit the music; you need to be creative; you must be responsive to the Follow (usually female).

    Lindy Hop is simple on the surface, yet you can spend years learning its nuances and depth. When two great dancers find each other on the floor, a piece of art, three-minutes long, is created.

    YouTube it. Find your local Swing Dance scene. Do it.

  482. Do what the Canadian Air Force do - only 12 minute by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://www.gettingfitagain.com/5bx.php

  483. Re:Tai Chi by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    So long as you're doing it right. Knee alignment is crucial in Tai Chi, and doing all those slow movements in a low stance over and over with your knees wrong will damage them very quickly. If you do do it, make sure that 1: You don't feel any soreness or aching in your knees during or after a session and 2: That the instructor teaches the importance of alignment and not stressing your joints. If he/she doesn't then I'd assume they don't know or don't care, either is bad.

  484. Bicycling is the solution by Cannelloni · · Score: 1

    Take your bike anywhere you go, and get a GOOD bike to make the it more enjoyable. Sell your car, and don't use public transportation. Your heart and mind will work better. Also, try to be more extrovert and you will be happier.

    --
    Beauty is in the beholder of the eye.
  485. Geocache! by ReceptiveIT · · Score: 1

    Get fit, while having an excuse to bring a GPS and Palm into the great outdoors. After I started, I found myself wondering why I didn't start earlier. http://www.geocaching.com/

  486. Incentive by Synthaxx · · Score: 1

    I had to find out a system that works before i could commit to exercising. While I still don't like to exercise i have been able to keep it up 3 times a week (1 hour) for the last year.

    Basically i treat myself to something i like during the exercise. While my method might not work for you in the same way, it has helped me greatly. They way i kept this up is by saving all the series i want to watch and only watch them during the workout. It might seem a bit weird, but it helped me a lot.

    I do a start up of stretches, then some crunches after wich i hit the crosstrainer for half an hour. I finish up with 15 minutes of rowing and some cooling down stretches.
    All in the comfort of my home, while watching my favorite series (i'm currently into Eureka) using second hand equipment. You'd be amazed how cheap second hand exercise equiment is, and most of it is allmost new.

    Keep in mind though, that you will need to do this for as long as your have work that's not physically active.

  487. Re:Do what the Canadian Air Force do - only 12 min by dday376 · · Score: 1

    "The Hacker's Diet" is another view, with commentary on how to manage what you eat as well:

    http://www.fourmilab.ch/hackdiet/

    --
    "C'mon freedom cage, roll me to safety!" - Philip J. Fry
  488. I Tri by ^DA · · Score: 1

    Swim, bike, run. Mostly bike since I like biking the most. I like the variation.

    Sometimes I do a little strengt training, and when I do it is mostly core strength.

  489. Dance Dance Revolution for PS2 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I myself have a "cobalt flux" metal ddr pad and a ps2... you wouldn't believe how many steps can be done, or how much you'll sweat in just a matter of minutes.. and it's in the privacy of your own home!

  490. Re:Technical explanation; didn't rtfa. by Joutsa · · Score: 1

    (Disclaimer: I'm no scientist. Well, a computer scientist. But that doesn't apply here.)

    Don't you mean "Damn it, I'm a computer scientist, not a doctor"?

    I guess he has PhD in Computer Science.

  491. Quick excersizes won't work, you need more time by logfish · · Score: 1

    Also I've heard: the reserves of your body (fat) will only be used after about 20 minutes of constant increased energy use. So any fat burning will only start working after that time, before that your are just burning directly available energy (blood sugar, liver reserves, etc.). Make sure that you start biking and bike for more then about 15 minutes. Also, don't take the elevator is possible but that is just for fun ;-)

    It may also be nice to draw a 30 minute radius on the map from your home and just bike to and from a random position on the map.

    Good luck!

  492. blah! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    USB powered tens machine perhaps?

  493. Kinda going the wrong way by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You are kinda going at it the wrong way buddy. Weight training builds muscle (and you tend to get heavier). Cardio burns fat. You need to get your heart pumping 120 beats per minute for at least 30 minutes (ok, 80-90 beats per minute for 2 hours is better). You will burn fat, build muscle, and keep most of the pounds off. I've been geek (hard core) since I was 15. Never had the luxury of being thin (although I was a lot less heavy than I am now when I was 19). I like to jump on the bike at least 2-3 times per week (for 1.5 hours or 28 kilometers ...17.36 miles). If you want to burn fat, its cardio. If you want to build muscle, weight train.

  494. Fit geek - and your flat as a makeshift gym. by Borg453b · · Score: 1

    I was born slender and frail, and despite various attempts at sports and physical activites a a kid, I'd miss a lot gym classes due to illnesses.

    While shopping at a mall with my kid brother, i was beaten up around the age of 15. I guess i felt pretty weak and the knowledge that i hadent been able to defend my brother knawed at me since that incident. A friend who had had a run in with the same miscreants, suggested we took up karate: and so we did. It only lasted two years; but it taught me a bit about pressing myself physically.

    Later my family moved to germany and my brother and I took up Kung Fu at a local school; that too only lasted a couple of years, but i felt fit and confident. I was still a geek, but a geek with a physical hobby (and a girlfriend ;).

    Karate and kung fu were great settings for physical training: Seeing others pushing themselves and managing inspired one to do more - and perhaps basic group instinct was enough: You felt you had to be able to cope too. There was also an air of mutual respect and acceptance: You felt rewarded for will and effort; not physical prowess.

    Starting my studies in denmark, I stopped exercising. Due to a decently metabolism, i didnt gain much weight, but I lost stamina and strength. We dont have the same fastfood cultur here as in the US, but we're getting closed to it. Most students still cook their own meals.

    Needing a break from the books, and getting a surprising mail from the army (prior to the draft being abolished), i decided i'd give it a go - in mycase it meant 8 months. Refusing, would just mean 8 months away from the uni else where. The draft instructions suggested to get in shape, prior to joining up: and so i started running and doing pushups and situps (something that karate and kungfu had taught me well).

    This meant i was fairly prepared for the regular physical training at the army. It still turned out to be the most grueling physical experience i've been through, but that was mostly to painful marches, lack of sleep and stress (fear of heights + obstacle course = bruises and dread). It would have been hell, had i not shaped up for it. The army too, gave you that sense of "if the others can make it, I can too" notion: and that's what keeps you marching, or climbing some insane ladder to nowhere. We had an LT that loved push ups; so much in fact that our general training defeated other CO's attempts at intimidating us with such physical training: we could easily outdo the sergents and officers that put us to the test - and that gave us some basic pleasure. Spite - too - can be a great motivator.

    Since the army I've tried to keep my fitness. Most people bulked up in there; and expanded their notions of limits. I've returned the uni, and work is close by: so I dont have the long walks i used to have, when i tended to lectures.

    The way I keep fit: Twice a week (sometimes trice) I play badminton with a coworker. It only lasts and hour, but we've gotten really competitive. This does result in frustration tied to defeats (my coworker is better technically), but it also makes for great exercise. It's said to be the most energetic racket sport, save Squash. We work up a sweat every time.

    Every other day i exercise at home, and with few means I've made my room a makeshift gym:

    When i wake up, i do diamond pushups (40), while resting my feet on a chair. Then i handweigh lift (7 lbs each) I manage between 30 - 40. This is followed by 100 situps, which in turn is followed by 40 regular pushups, while resting the feet on the chair. Finally I do another set of handweights -usually only 30.

    If you attempt something like this, and you're new at it; start off easy; with few brief sets. You may not be able to do regular push ups, but you can do them while resting on your knees. That's how most people start out. Handweighs are good because you can adjust them - and they dont take a lot of space. Home training takes a lot more disciplin: It's very alluring to skip ones program; and noone's monitoring you - but it's cheap and fairly effective and you dont have to worry about others looking.

    Fitness does give one sense of added energy, and it doesnt hurt ones confidence. I recommend it.

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    - Mad, ingenous - they've both left you puzzled -
  495. Cross Fit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Check out cross fit [www.crossfit.com]. It will give you a full body work out under 20 minutes per day. Or, you can use the similar program, Jim Jones, which turned fat actors into spartan warriors (CGI helps of course) in a couple months.

  496. Re:Technical explanation; didn't rtfa. by aliquis · · Score: 1

    But of course they won't produce lots of energy for no reason. Anyway muscle do use more energy at rest than fat mass, even if it's in the tens of kilocalories/day and kg muscle.

  497. Scroll-ups by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    All in the subject

  498. Abs Diet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    After being pretty fit up until I was 20, I have slowly declined in the last 9 years. However I have just started doing the exercises in The Abs Diet and I am starting to lose a lot of weight round my stomach (and as a nice bonus my arms are getting bigger!). Don't need much room, a couple of dumbells and jog on the spot/star jumps/whatever for 5 mins just to warm up. Would also recommend Men's Health Magazine for motivation, every month in the UK edition they feature a guy who has lost X amount of stone and how he did it.

  499. try this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://www.shovelglove.com/

  500. GEOCACHING by rxzephyr · · Score: 1

    Do something outdoorsy that you've never done before. Hell, do them all: Rock climbing, kayaking, surfing, backpacking, skiing.

    I'll toss out an idea that I latched onto a couple of years ago: Geocaching (www.geocaching.com) Combines a variety of level of physical activity, gets you outside into the big blue room, lets you play with a really cool piece of technology AND is a 'competitive' game, especially if you have friends/co-workers into things as well. (As much as a Geocacher says it's 'not about the numbers', it certainly can be! :D)

    And if you DO get addicted and happen to live in an area where Old Man Winter arrives far too early for your liking, you'll start to think about trying snow shoeing and cross country skiing just so you can keep going.

    Give it a shot - it's a great way to get outside and see some REALLY cool spots that you'd never were there. And they're probably in your backyard!

  501. My ROTC experience by GodfatherofSoul · · Score: 1

    First off, it's good that you're doing regular exercise. But, you have to push your body to get stronger. What I usually do is increase my count by a small amount every day or week or so. If you think you'll be discouraged by too strenuous a workout, then keep your upgrades modest in size and rate. I learned in ROTC that you can really push yourself much further than you think. Most people instinctively stop at the slightest sign of discomfort. I bet you could do 35-40 situps right now if you really pushed yourself (don't hurt yourself though).

    I use this DVD called 8 Minute Abs which you could probably find now for pennies. The exercises are 45 seconds each, but again work yourself up to the full 45. Sit-ups are good, but a better ab routine will give you better coverage.

    Last, I HATE running!!! The only comparable replacement I've ever found (since running is such great exercise) is an elliptical. I like a more clinical approach to running where I can make slight tweaks to my routine and closely monitor my progress. It's great exercise and I enjoy it so much more that just looking at it sometimes makes me want to jump on.

    I'd also add, just get out and move around. When you have a sedentary job like IT, you're not getting much exercise as work. So, walk as much as you can. Park at the back of the lot wherever you go. If you get breaks, go for a short walk around the building.

    --
    I swear to God...I swear to God! That is NOT how you treat your human!
  502. Boxing! by dissolved · · Score: 1

    Circuit training for boxing is great. If you go to a good gym/take the right classes you will mix running, weights, press ups, skipping and bag work to work out the frustrations.

    You can also utilise what others said about martial arts - if you're off somewhere with a pair of boxing gloves it doesn't matter how bad you are, you look better :-). If you ever wanted to compete in "white collar boxing" as it is termed then whatever weight you end up at shouldn't matter too much as the tiering is obviously there to make a fairer fight.

  503. Cross Trainer or Elliptical Trainer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I got myself a Cross Trainer/Elliptical Trainer and am very happy with it. It does not cost very much and some models don't use much space. I use it 10 minutes every day and this made a big difference in my fitness. Losing weight however requires a change in nutrition.

    Congratulations for beeing a geek with an awareness for fitness. When your body is over 40 you can't continue to deny the genetic origins of your body :-)

    Free extra advice: As a geek you sit a lot - check out the basics about keeping your spine healthy before the pain hits.

  504. Whatever you enjoy that's convenient to do. by thoglette · · Score: 1
    As every other poster has noted, you need lots of aerobic, some resistance (which you're already doing) and some flexibility/core strength (think pilates/yoga)

    The key is to keep doing it for the rest of your life. So find stuff you like. And change every few years.

    I do the basic run/ride/swim. Run for the local annual fun-run (and keep the knee ligements working). Ride because it's more fun than driving in traffic. And swim because I love being in the ocean. The pool bores me, but there's a local squad whose coach make's it interesting (not _quite_ torture). But I've also been doing fencing for a while. Before that, snowboarding. There's been a rockwall installed near home and the little'uns love it. And someone at work is making noises about a soccer team.

    If you're obsessive, then a single sport might do it. But for most of us, the fun part is working to get to the level of a "competent amateur". Try stuff out; make sure you get the basics and use it as an excuse to enjoy life.

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  505. Biking and Running, Basically Some Cardio... by McPierce · · Score: 1

    I agree with those who said biking to work. I ride a bike on the weekends, though, since I live too far from work to ride a bike in and I also have a 12 year old son that I drive to school near the office.

    For myself, I run every morning. 30 minutes on a treadmill or outside depending on the weather. Our office has a small gym with cardio equipment (elliptical machine, rowing machine, treadmills, stationary bikes) and nobody else goes in there when I do in the morning.

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  506. bike rights. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No way, bikes don't get to share the road until they pay a registration fee, plate fee, license fee, wheel tax, and title tax just like a car. AND start being forced to obey all the rules of the road like stop signs, lights, right of way and min/max speed limits.

    Until then... They are mobile speed bumps. Get out of my way.

    1. Re:bike rights. by darkwhite · · Score: 1

      Fuck you.

      Bikes have the same rights to the road as you do. The taxes you pay on your vehicle contribute mostly to the bureaucracy of automotive maintenance, not road maintenance. Everyone pays equally for road maintenance, and truck drivers destroy roads thousands of times faster than cyclists ever can.

      You can share the road, or you can go to jail.

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  507. Get a door bar. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Very nice for in between. Not too expensive, but very effective.
    http://www.starkk.de/images/84600-tuerreck.jpg

  508. Precor elliptical by thepacketmaster · · Score: 1

    It's low impact (which is good because geek knees probably can't handle it) and it's got incline and resistance. I can burn off 900 calories in an hour if I push it. Do that 3 times a week and you'll be trim.

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  509. Yoga (Traditional Hatha Yoga) by bokel · · Score: 0

    I started doing Hatha Yoga last year and do it on a daily base since then. The good thing is, you can do it whereever you are. All you need, is some space and a towel. It might not be cool, but i think 5000 years of development should give you a almost bug free exercise.

  510. Calisthenics by aeson · · Score: 1

    The easiest thing to do at home is what you're already doing, but with more intensity. Calisthenics, if high intensity, can actually be a decent aerobic workout that will result in strength gains.

    I personally spend a great deal of time exercising right now - mostly resistance training, interval training, and dancing. However, when I first decided the chub had to go I started with about 20 minutes of calisthenics a day. Just that little bit of exercise every day helped a great deal. Knowing what I know now I would've started with a routine more similar to my current one which requires a gym, but if you want to ease into the idea of a fitness program...

    At the simplest, I would recommend doing something like:

    pushups
    squats
    chin-ups (odd sets) / pull-ups (even sets)
    crunches (odd sets) / reverse crunches (even sets)
    calf raises (odd sets) / lunges (even sets)

    Do all exercises to failure, don't take any significant breaks. Start with two sets and work up to four sets. That should cover all your muscle groups and make you sweat.

    You get out what you put in as far as getting in shape goes. If you just want to feel better 30 minutes of calisthenics a day will do. However, if you want to feel great it'll mean time, effort, and a program that balances resistance training and cardio with your goals. There isn't a 'get rich quick' scheme for fitness. Though, finding an active hobby you truly enjoy can make it feel quick.

    I know it's not the specific question you asked, but I have to comment on diet if we are going to discuss fat loss - it's simply too important. For weight loss, diet and lifestyle changes will have the biggest impact. When it really comes down to it weight loss is painfully simple. To lose fat you MUST burn more calories in a day than you take in. Online tools for determining how many calories you need to cut to lose weight abound. Figure out what your needs are, and target about 500 calories under that to lose a pound a week.

    I strongly recommend logging everything you eat. Write down the amount of calories, protein, carbs, alchohol and fat. Try to hit your target calories with 30% protein calories, 50% carb calories, and 20% fat calories. Opinions widely vary on these percentages, but you probably won't hit those marks exactly anyway and my opinion is that the exact right balance doesn't exist anyway. To determine the calorie percentages use: protein/carbs contain 4 calories/gram, alcohol 7 cals/gram, fat 9 cals/gram.

    I know it sounds anal and annoying, but seriously, log everything you eat until you get the point. It'll really show what makes for a bad diet (soda is the devil) and a good one (up with fish). You can quit logging after you've forced yourself to really think about what you're eating and your tastes shift to healthier foods.

    Good luck!

  511. Re:Get out. Have some fun. by init100 · · Score: 1

    and before you know it, exercise is just a twice-a-week thing.

    Actually, twice a week is what my gym recommends. They argue that it is frequently enough to maintain good health, but seldom enough to not take over your life and force you to quit. In other words, exercising twice a week is sustainable, ideally for the rest of your life, while more frequent exercise usually leads to quitting exercises completely after some time.

  512. Rowing... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Try the Concept II - 20 mins a night and your CV and weight will improve no end. Its a weapon of mass reduction!

  513. Go to a sportcenter by AlXtreme · · Score: 1

    You think you're the only weird-looking one on the planet? Newsflash: the sport centers in your area are full with people like us.

    My advice would be to go 2/3 times a week with a friend. It might cost a few pennies more in the long run, but you get to do a full workout within a short timeframe, with advice from people who actually know how to optimize your exercise routine.

    You don't have to go to the flashy expensive ("Globo-gym") sport center. More important is going together with someone motivated and taking exercise seriously (don't deviate from your schedule, plan around it).

    You won't become a hunk overnight, you will feel more healthy and slowly rid your body of that excess weight.

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  514. All people do it! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I, for one, wank regularly. My lower abs are like stone! And my mouse wrist is think like a log!

  515. ELF-EM Diet by chris_sawtell · · Score: 1

    Eat
    Less
    Food
    -
    Exercise
    More.

    For the ELF part you make sure you eat a generous bowl of oat porridge for breakfast - be sure to serve low fat milk, and only one teaspoon of sugar. It fills you up so you don't feel hungry, yet has virtually no high energy fat. One slice of bread or toast - go easy on the butter. A piece of raw fruit too. Avoid corn based cold cereals,

    Lunch - you won't feel like much. A small sandwich with lots of lettuce, a stick of celery, a pottle of yoghurt and another piece of fruit.

    Dinner - Chinese and Thai style foods are both tasty and nutritious. Eat lots of lightly cooked fresh green veges, over cooked veges are revolting and bad for you. Avoid huge chunks of meat, and anything made from flour or fat, i.e. pastry or biscuits. Go gently on the grog.

    It's simplicity itself to effect the EM part. You just knock the petrol or gasoline habit on the head. Gather courage and cold turkey out of it. Just get rid of your car. Walking and using the 'bus, tram or train will not only save you a fortune, but also provide much needed exercise. I know it seems hard at first, but I feel so much better in myself now that I walk to do my food shopping and walk home carrying the stuff. It's just amazing how much less sugary shit, foul fat, and high calorie carbohydrate crap you buy when you know that you have to carry the wretched stuff home in a bag or basket.

    Honest that's all. I lost something between 15 and 20 kilos without even really trying.

  516. One exercise for all muscle groups by Farenji · · Score: 1

    Surya Namaskar, or the Salutation to the sun is a extremely powerful yoga exercise that will train all your muscles, improves your condition and you will burn a lot of calories as well. Best of all you don't need any equipment, don't have to get outside, just 2 square meters space is all you need.

    It's a succession of 12 postures that flows into one fluent movement. Google will show you lots of pages on how to perform them, but I recommend taking a few lessons at a yoga school because if you do it wrong or force things too much, it *can* be harmful. I once hurt my back cause I was too enthousiastic.

    I successfully used this exercise to battle my RSI and still use it to keep my weight and condition. Highly recommended.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surya_Namaskara

  517. Exercise? by MrM · · Score: 1

    Exercise?!?!

    Mommy, he said a bad word!

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  518. Some geeks exercise like this by MisterE · · Score: 1

    Start off exercising easy and work your way up to the 300 workout (see: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggiYjRelWgc)

    Go for intensity, not duration... this workout takes 10 to 15 minutes.

  519. Take a walk by ilitirit · · Score: 1

    I take a walk during lunchtime every day, and when I get back to the office I take the stairs up to the 15th floor. It does wonders for your stamina (and buttocks).

  520. Dance Dance Revolution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm surprised no one modded up mentioned this. Dance Dance Revolution (DDR) has been one of the signature geek weight loss forms and I've seen first hand the people it has transformed. Get yourself a Dance pad. You can play it on PSX or PC if you download Stepmania (Stepmania.com).

    It's fun AND it's a full aerobic workout. As you get better at it, you'll only continue to burn more calories, trim the flab, and get in better shape.

    While you can play it in the comfort of your own home, once you gain a little confidence, it's also a great way to pass the time with friends at a local arcade or in the living room. I wholeheartedly recommend DDR to anyone as a viable form of exercise.

  521. Aerobic exercise by elwinc · · Score: 1
    What you need is to burn serious calories. You need aerobic exercise. The whole "aerobic" thing came out of the research of a U.S. Air Force doc named Cooper. He defined fitness as the ratio of your body's maximum oxygen uptake to its resting oxygen uptake.

    Turns out to increase that ratio, you have to get yourself (at least slightly) out of breath, and stay there 20 or more minutes, 4 times / week. To get out of breath, you've got to get your legs involved in a big way. Jogging, biking, and swimming are the most common ways.

    If you have a staircase, run up and down for 20 minutes (booring). Or get up early and explore your neighborhood at 6AM on a bike. Or get an exercycle. Fancy ones make you turn a generator, and by measuring your output, can tell you how many calories you've burned.

    Dr Cooper raised the ire of the weightlifting community because by his measure, weight work alone did not increase fitness, and sometimes reduced it. Since Cooper, Aerobic or cardiovascular exercise is now considered an essential part of any exercise routine.

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  522. What I do by postermmxvicom · · Score: 1

    Basically I stretch everyday. MWF focus on upper body. TR focus on lower body. SSu rest. I throw in cardio less than I should. Don't push too much! If a muscle is still sore, give it rest! There are other exercises to do. All the exercises I do involve only dumbbells. The only other purchase was a cheap simple bench that could incline. I bought the lightest ones at walmart and picked up heavier ones weekly as I could. This is cheap and doable. I do decline, regular, incline and military presses on my bench with my dumbbells. I also do bicep curls and butterflies. Don't forget you can change the position of your wrists in a lot of these to mix it up. An mix up curls with concentration curls every now and then. Crunches and push ups and pull ups for sure. Lunges are great, but my favorite exercise is one legged squats. These are amazing! I also do like 45min-1hour of DDR for cardio sometimes. And stretch for an hour (which is not that bad because you can read a book or watch TV and stretch)

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  523. Learn Kung-Fu and kick some ass by S3D · · Score: 1

    On the practice level where you can kick some ass with Kung-Fu you will have regular bruises, occasional joint dislocation and some probability of concussion. That's ok while you are under 30, but could be quite hurtful as you are becoming older. And not helping productivity either.

  524. Run by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Running burns roughly 100 calories per mile. 2 Years ago I weighed 270 pounds, today I run 25 - 30 miles per week on average with weekly long runs ranging from 10 - 20 miles. Im still about 185 pounds, but Im 6 ft 3in tall and still like to eat...

  525. Re:Tai Chi by ThomsonsPier · · Score: 1

    Not quite; T'ai Chi is performed slowly to start with because the movements are complicated and require precision to be effective when applied.

    It's very difficult to perfect a precision movement at speed, so they are practised slowly. When everything is in alignment and can be performed in a relaxed manner, then the movements can be sped up and applied in a martial context.

    Done properly, it can be one of the hardest workouts for strength and stamina you'll experience; power lifters have been known to quit before completing a form.

    The other advantage is that, being primarily a set of principles, T'ai Chi can be applied to all activity. If you're not concerned about the martial side of it, the movement principles can make any movement into excellent exercise.

    So do that.

  526. Re:Tai Chi by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I wouldn't recommend Tai Chi for burning calories, it's good for flexibility and coordination however.
    Boxing, mui thai, taekwondo and other striking styles are more likely to help with burning calories since they often focus on stamina.

    The skipping you'd do as part of a boxing routine you could do at home. Many martial arts use floor exercises (usually focused on the abdominals)which don't need any equipment just a bit of space, which you could also do at home.

  527. Run Forest Run! by b4upoo · · Score: 1

    I've seen a lot of people try a lot of things over the years. Most fail. What i have observed is that walking is fine but there also needs to be some violent running where one gets seriously winded. A thirty minute walk followed by a flat out three mile run will bring you into shape if your health is strong enough to take it.
            There is some sort of shift in metabolism for people who get completely winded while running that one can not get from less violent exercises.

  528. If you are looking for a program... by postermmxvicom · · Score: 1

    ..my friends swear by P90X. It seems like the real deal. The say they are always challenged and that it runs the gambit between weight lifting and yoga. Seems like an overall fitness kinda program. But I can' vouch for it personally (see my other post for what I do). Oh, and apparently there is stuff they want you to buy apart from the videos. My friends say buy the off brand stuff to save money.

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  529. Exercise takes time by Hittite+Creosote · · Score: 1
    Proper exercise takes time. No bones about it, doing a bunch of sit ups and press ups for a few minutes in the morning is going to do little. So do something you can keep up for some time. If you don't have time, well either make some or get used to being fat.

    I personally prefer something that is non-impact and endurance - swimming, cycling and rowing. You probably don't like the idea of swimming if you hate exercising in front of people. Cycling should appeal to geeks for the amount of equipment you can play with, and you don't have to be a lycra-clad road racer - try baggy mountain biker instead, but you have to cycle *up* the hill first. You often get rowing machines in gyms, but if you don't want to set foot in such a place, you can buy a rowing machine yourself - but for pity's sake, don't get a cheapo one, you'll regret it. Concept 2 are the best ones I've ever used, a second hand one of them is far better than a new one of cheaper models.

  530. Re:Technical explanation; didn't rtfa. by Daengbo · · Score: 3, Interesting
    You need to count more than the increased muscle mass (which is estimated to increase base metabolism by anywhere from 10-60 calories per pound). Strength training destroys muscle mass: your body spends extra energy for days after the session is over rebuilding the damaged tissue. The nervous system gets shocked and the system doesn't convert carbs to fat for a couple of hours.

    I went from ~35% body fat to ~15% last year using primarily strength training (4-5 hours a week) supplemented by 2-4 hours of cardio. That translated to about 35lbs of lost fat. I didn't diet. My weight stayed relatively constant. That meant I added about 35 lbs. of muscle. I got to eat a lot of food. I had the doughnuts I love (only right after lifting). The better physique started drawing a lot of attention from women and I got picked up several times. People think I'm five to ten years younger than I really am.

    To those who say that aerobic exercise will lead to muscle mass increases, you only need to look at marathon runners' legs to see that isn't really true. more than an hour of cardio a day leads to muscle loss.

    Bottom line:
    • Get in a gym 3-4 times a week and lift until you throw up. Use a full-body workout if you can.
    • Bike to/from work.
    • Don't quit.
  531. Actually... by mario_grgic · · Score: 1

    doing aerobic kind of activity produces more mitochondria in the cells than doing weight training. Hence, cyclists and runners don't choke when they run, unlike body builders.

    Aerobic training is metabolic training. You push your metabolism to its limits and it produces adaptations to become more efficient at delivering energy, oxygen uptake, heart stroke volume (i.e. how much blood is pushed by heart with each heart beat) etc, but you never get stronger (as in ability to lift more weight).

    The only difference between the winner of the Tour de France and couch potato is that couch potato can only push the pedals with the force equivalent of 20 kg sitting on the pedal a few times and he will fatigue because his metabolism is not able to deliver energy, whereas the tour winner can keep doing it for hours and hours.

    People often think that aerobic sport winners are "stronger" (as in able to push more or lift more). But that is not true. They are equally weak in relative terms to untrained people (certainly compared to people who lift weights), but can sustain the activity for amazingly long periods, because of their amazingly efficient metabolism.

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  532. How about rock climbing? by dr00g911 · · Score: 1

    A friend invited me to an indoor rock climbing gym a few years ago, and I found that I really enjoyed it. Between the climbing and cutting sugar out of my coffee (easy to do if you order fresh as-in-roasted-today coffee) I got my weight back down to between 160-170 depending on the month (I'm in Florida, and far less active in the summer because I sweat a LOT above 85 or so). For a 6' tall guy with broad shoulders, I'm pretty happy at this weight.

    I must say that exercise for the sake of exercise just bores me to pieces.

    Climbing is really a puzzle that you're solving with your body -- it keeps your mind occupied, unlike most other forms of exercise that I've tried. It also resulted in serious muscle tone on my arms and legs (very quickly), without building mass. Two hours, two days a week on easy to medium climbs (5.9 and under). And at the end of it all, we go have a few beers to help with the muscle soreness.

    Anyway, a lot of climbing gyms have started installing what they refer to as "auto-belays" -- basically, you don't need a second person to hold the rope on some of the gym routes. Once you get a little more advanced, you'll want to find a climbing buddy though -- for encouragement, and also to belay you on the more difficult climbs, and if you get into it, you'll need a buddy or two for the occasional outdoor climb as well. Side benefit: you end up seeing places that you'd never see. Or you may end up just taking a pair of climbing shoes with you when you travel to do weird stuff like bouldering Rat Rock in Central Park, or climbing on all of the artificial rocks at Disney (I've done both).

    You don't need any equipment to start out besides a ratty t-shirt and some cargo shorts. A chalk ball is handy ($2ish). You can rent shoes, a harness and a belay device at the gym for cheap ($6-7ish). Eventually you'll want your own, and you can pick up the whole set for about $100 -- about the price of a decent set of running shoes.

    Another benefit:

    I don't know about you, but in addition to not getting enough exercise, I also generally have a lot of "chatter" going on in my head. I can't stop thinking about random things, and at times it can be very difficult to concentrate well enough to code or focus on work.

    Well, I'm here to tell you that the primal fear of falling will turn all of that chatter off instantly. I've never experienced anything like it, and when I lose focus I find myself heading into the gym for an hour or so.

  533. Simple / Affective (Somewhat Costly) by SkydiverFL · · Score: 1

    Remember this rule: spend more calories than you take in... period. It does not matter the exercise AT ALL. I'm living proof.

    I was in the same boat for years... got out of the Marine Corps at 155 lbs... starting writing code for commercial companies... within 10 years has gotten to 220 lbs. I'm now 172 lbs. thanks to one tech-friendly gadget:

    www.bodybugg.com

    This thing is great. You strap it on your upper-right arm (under a t-shirt, if you wish) and that's it. It ACCURATELY tracks how many calories you burn every minute of every day. Then, sync with their web site and viola! You now have a solid understanding of what tasks you do that burn calories. Once you have this info, you will always have it available in your brain and, as you move through your day, you will probably alter your patterns because of it.

    The best "feature" of this device is that it allows you to NOT take on any activities that you do not enjoy OR that do not fit into your schedule. In fact, you will finally learn how inefficient certain exercises really are. For example, I stopped running since I picked this up. I replaced it with a few sets of rope jumping throughout the day and have better results.

    The problem for me (and with most of us, I assume) is that we don't realize the impact of our actions. We also are not conscious about our body changes since they occur so gradually over time.

    Is this a costly approach? Sure. The price is $400-$500 depending on what you buy. However, I assure you, it is one of those devices where, after a few weeks, it will feel like the best decision.

    I hope this helps.

    Thanx,
    Fred

    P.S. You can pick up used Bodybugg units on eBay for $100-$200 savings. A replacement arm band is roughly $5 and is the only part that COULD possibly retain any sweat of the previous owner. The only down side is that you'd have to pay for the web site membership ($99) which is free for 3 months if you buy it new. If you're gonna use your bodybugg for longer than three months, then you'll have to pay for it anyway, so going the eBay route would save you money long-term.

    1. Re:Simple / Affective (Somewhat Costly) by foxxlf25 · · Score: 1

      This is very true Fred, countless studies and government recommendations indicate that the method of less calories then you burn, and getting there by a combination of a few less calories and a bit more burn is an excellent way to make progress on weight loss. For the geek, the kind of technology in bodybugg is a great. It lets them very clearly understand what is going on with data and is very simple to use. The company behind the technology is www.bodymedia.com. That company also produces a smaller form factor device that includes additional information on sleep. Information can be found at www.sensewear.com. Hope that helps too!

  534. Find an outdoor activity that involves exercise by Nurgled · · Score: 1

    I was in much the same situation as the original poster about a year ago, and I set out to do something about it. I started off doing simple things like push-ups in the privacy of my home, and once I'd got into that habit, and made myself a little fitter in the process, I considered my next move.

    Much like the OP, I get self-concious when jogging in public. However, I observed that cycling gets much less attention than jogging, so I went and bought myself a nice new bike and started a regime of cycling every day after work. (I did try cycling to work a few times, but there isn't really a good bike route to take and I don't like cycling on major roads.)

    I found after I'd got into cycling maybe 5-10 miles around my neighbourhood that I was getting bored and demotivated, so I slacked off for a while and started to get tubby again. Recently I've re-awakened my interest in contributing to OpenStreetMap, which has proven to be the perfect excuse to bike around with a goal in mind other than just biking for biking's sake. For those who aren't familiar with the OpenStreetMap thing, basically I bike around with a GPS logger fixed to my handlebars and use the tracklogs collected as the basis for maps of my local area. These last few weeks I've been doing more miles per day than I ever did before because I'm thinking about something else while I'm doing it.

    If OpenStreetMap already has coverage for your area then this isn't a very helpful suggestion, but I'm sure you could find other excuses to get out and about and get exercise without that being your primary goal.

  535. The ROM by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://www.fastexercise.com/

    You may never figure out to use it, but at least you can impress the ladies with $14,000 of crap.

  536. Stronglifts by dealmaster00 · · Score: 1

    Check out www.stronglifts.com . It is the perfect site for a beginning strength trainer. You can lose fat and gain muscle quite rapidly with the correct diet in place (which is also detailed at this site). I've been doing it for 4 months and have gotten noticeably stronger and bigger.

  537. Re:Technical explanation; didn't rtfa. by theignat · · Score: 1

    Actually 45 minutes of aerobic training will burn less calories over a 24 hour period than 45 minutes of weight training over that same period. It is a huge misconception that many have the aerobics are better to lose weight, which is why I guess so many fail at it.

  538. Since we're on a nerd site... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Thought I'd give a nerd answer. First, tone doesn't mean what you think it means. Muscle tone refers to the "resting" level of activity and tension a muscle experiences. It's a technical term; I might as well ask how to compile my internets.

    Second, I haven't read all the comments, but a number of them say you need to do aerobic exercise like running to lose weight. This is horseshit. Weight training where you actually lift weights that are heavy (for you) that encompasses a number of compound movements (squats, overhead pressing, pull ups, etc) will most definitely help you to lose fat as well as put on some muscle (you skinny bastid). Same goes for heart health. Search for studies by Stone et al for a quick synopsis of weight training and heart health.

    Aerobic exercise (and please, people, don't call this traditional; weight training was used as exercise FAR before jogging and biking and whatnot. Walking and jogging were transportation.) is not necessary, but if you enjoy it, by all means go for it. But lift some weights. Otherwise you'll just be skinny.

    -Dan

  539. Iso by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Iso not ISO

    Isometrics - google for all the details

    1. Re:Iso by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh yeah,

      Remember these words of wisdom, you are not likely to finder truer words any where in this discussion.

      "The Race is Long, but in the End, it is Only with Yourself!"

  540. Correct your eating first by CmpEng · · Score: 1

    When I saw your posting "I don't eat a lot but the weight seems to stay on these days." jumped out at me immediately. Working in the IT field as well, I have the habit of eating health but not enough. You'd be surprised at how much you should really eat in a day; 12 oz of meat, 6 full cups of vegetables, etc... After adjusting my eating to eat more, I've recently lost 26 lbs in 9 weeks and that was without changing any sort of related exercise; I currently go to the gym 3 times a week for an hour. First step is to see a dietitian and get some customized menus which will help get your metabolism back to where it was a few years ago. I know it sounds crazy but I think ultimately you probably have more of an eating problem (eating too little) more than an exercise problem.

  541. Rockclimbing by rockclimber · · Score: 1

    Fun Activity, recomended for hackers

  542. Re:Tai Chi by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I agree and use Tai Chi myself to stay fit and healthy as an IT industry worker. I practice both a short form and a long form. This allows me to use the short form in the morning or at lunch to exercise at work, and I do the long form at home for an even deeper aerobic work out. Tai Chi, even though the movements are slow, is still considered a light to moderate aerobic work out. Tai Chi's benefits are many (Reduce stress, Increase flexibility, Improve muscle strength and definition, Increase energy, stamina and agility)and it's something that you can do into old age or at any fitness level.

    Tai Chi and martial arts in general are great ways to stay in shape and create better focus which truly helps improve the work I do in IT.

    http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/tai-chi/SA00087

  543. Try a Treadmill Desk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    If sitting is the problem, walking is the answer.

    Try a treadmill desk: http://www.treadmill-desk.com/

    It combines your desk with a treadmill. The idea is to walk at a slow steady pace, I use 1.2mph for an average of 4 hours a day and I've been losing a pound a week since I started using one with no change in eating habits.

  544. The Hacker's Diet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    For every problem there is an engineering solution:
    http://www.fourmilab.ch/hackdiet/

  545. Re:Get out. Have some fun. by djjockey · · Score: 1

    All good advice.

    However - I thought being an introvert was about drawing energy from themselves, rather than others. Introvert Defined

    Scared to go outside or exercise in front of people is self conscious or shy.

  546. Re:Technical explanation; didn't rtfa. by l3mr · · Score: 0

    (Disclaimer: I'm no scientist. Well, a computer scientist. But that doesn't apply here.)

    Don't you mean "Damn it, I'm a computer scientist, not a doctor"?

    I guess he has PhD in Computer Science.

    I guess you didn't notice the Star Trek reference.

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  547. Walk, walk walk! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I get up most days at 4am, wlak about 4-5 miles in my area, come home having cleared my mind and sorted out the days priorities, then go to work at 8am. Helped me lose about 6 stone in 9 months! I feel better and I am, most days, far more relaxed and less stressed ( work in a 24hr Oracle DB shop ).

  548. Open Source Exercise by OneShirtChris · · Score: 1

    www.crossfit.com Think of it as an Open Source movement to the workout world. Most of the routines you can do in your own home with some free weights and a pull-up bar.

  549. Find ways to exercise without "exercising" by jocknerd · · Score: 1

    As others have mentioned, walk or bike to work if you can. At least dedicate 30 minutes a day to some physical activity.

    As for myself, I was a gym rat but with young twins, going to the gym became more and more difficult. So I invested in a set of Selecttech Dumbbells from Bowflex. They're adjustable dumbbells and don't take up much space at all. Gives me 90% of what I was able to do in the gym for weightlifting. I plan to start riding a bike to work this fall when the kids start kindergarten and ride a schoolbus. No more dropping off at daycare, so no excuse not to ride the 4 miles to work on a bike.

  550. Rope by toxickore · · Score: 1

    What about jumping rope. You don't need to go outside (if you're comfortable this way) your house. Just ask a specialist on how many time would you need to excersice according to your age/weight/activity.

  551. Get Fit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    1. Use Wii Fit!
    2. Tell the world how fit you are (like Jarrod the Subway guy.) ....
    4. Profit!

  552. Rock Climbing! by NapalmScatterBrain · · Score: 1

    I joined a local rock climbing gym less than a year ago. Filled with geeks(I seriously can't go 10 minutes in there without overhearing somebody's discussion of the merits of linux vs. osx, or NetBeans vs. Jdeveloper, or semantic search vs. mathematical search) it takes a lot of brains and an intuitive understanding of physics. Plus, its very fun and will get you in fantastic shape. (provided you cut out the sugar from your diet: can you say DIET mountain dew?) If you live near a mountainous area you can do it outdoors, but a rock gym allows you to get a quick 90 minute session in after work.

  553. Kettlebells, stretching, and triathlon by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I was in a similar position. Here's the trick: commit to doing *something* 6 days a week. I started with stretching (Shaolin Workout), moved to alternating between stretching and kettlebells, and now I'm alternating between stretching, kettlebells, and triathlon (swim, bike, run - one sport each day, round-robin).

  554. Yoga. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Try Ashtanga Yoga...

  555. fudspong by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What does it for me and all the geeks I know? Chronic masturbation.

  556. Back to the question... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Seems like everyone has an opinion, and not many of them relate to the original question.

    If you're looking for some more exercises at home, then body weight choices require no equipment. You do however need some pointers. A quick search found lots of videos on basic to advanced lifts. I found http://www.expertvillage.com/video-series/538_bodyweight-exercises.htm

    After that, I would invest in a treadmill if you can afford it over a stationary bike, but either one provides you the option of turning normally sedentary time into calorie burning time. (Like TV viewing)

    Other than that, there are tons of great DVDs on yoga, tai chi, things that other people suggested and you should be off to a good start. Don't forget to take a good look at nutrition too! Good luck.

  557. Tae Bo and a Meal Plan by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Tae Bo is a good balance of strength and cardio. It also has the nice additional benefit of being in your home and usually done in under an hour. Follow it up with a good 10-15 minutes of stretching and you'll be fine.

    You may also want to inspect your diet. I injured my back and had to rely on diet to keep the weight down. Aim for 5 meals (3 main and 2 snacks). Drink plenty of water while minimizing soda and fruit juices. My meal plan goes something like the one below. It's not perfect, but is a managable plan that does not involve powders, giving up my beloved honey mustared (mmmm.... honey mustard), and does not require a great deal of thought. Allow two fat ass meals (not whole days, 2 individual meals) during the week.

    1.Breakfast: 1 cup Kashi Cereal with 8 oz skim or 1% milk and occasionally fruit
    2.Mid-morning snack (10 am): Snack bar - South Beach or Kashi
    3.Lunch: Just about any sandwich on whole wheat with lettuce and tomato. Baked Lays. Apple or Banana
    4.Mid-Afternoon snack (2-4): Snack pack, rice cake - aiming for 130 cal or below
    5.Dinner: whatever wifey makes with a salad

    Hope this helps!

  558. Re:Tai Chi by mapkinase · · Score: 1

    I read "108 minutes". /childish_offtopic_remark

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  559. Death By Bodyweight by EastCoastSurfer · · Score: 1

    Look up the workout "Death By Bodyweight". It's amazing what kind of workout you can get with only your body weight.

    The submitter mentioned pushups and situps. Those are okay, but on their own not very effective. You need to add squatting and some sort of row or pullup.

  560. 12 oz curl by sm62704 · · Score: 1

    Anybody who reads my nsfw /. journals knows my favorite form of excersize, but I don't have a lot of opportunity to get much exersize that way. So I usually settle for the "twelve ounbce curl". Good for the forearms and biceps, not too good for the gut.

    Living alone I get exersize mowing the lawn, sweeping, cleaning the toilet, etc.

    I think I'll actually go to the Y and work out for real today. If I don't talk myself into goiing to the bar like I usually do.

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  561. The Terrible Twenty by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Try functional gymnastics.

    http://babelfish.yahoo.com/translate_url?doit=done&tt=url&intl=1&fr=bf-home&trurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.sportunterricht.de%2Flksport%2Ffunktionsgym20.html&lp=de_en&btnTrUrl=Translate

    Hint: Don't do the excercises on the left side ;)

    Original Link:
    http://www.sportunterricht.de/lksport/funktionsgym20.html

  562. IDEA!!! by Mastadex · · Score: 1

    Here is an idea. Hook the treadmill up to a generator and have that generator power your laptop. Laptops, when they don't have enough power, start downsampling the speed of the GPU/CPU, etc. So if you are playing a video game and your FPS starts to drop, start running faster!

    Frag and Burn fat at the same time.

    NOTE: This can also be done with porn videos. Porn is not as fun as you think when you can't view it at its intended speed.

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  563. masturbate, of course by wisty · · Score: 1

    It does leave you with an asymmetric though

  564. Geocaching! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    One of the activities my wife and I are looking to get into is GeoCaching (http://www.geocaching.com/). It's essentially wilderness hiking, exploring, and treasure hunting wrapped into one.

    Geocachers have hidden various tchotchkes around the world, and posted their lat/lon coordinates online for other Geocachers to find, and replace the contents with their own donations. Using a handheld GPS, compass, map, hiking boots, and a myriad of other wilderness equipment, one drives as closely as desired to a given geocache location, then sets out hiking to the geocache's precise location.

    The benefits to geeks are many-fold:
    - you *must* use GPS hardware to find geocaches, so you get to geek out on new toys
    - brain exercise; most geocaches are not in plain view, and take a bit of problem-solving to reveal
    - little socialization required; most geocaches are in the wilderness (e.g. only orcs and fairy maidens to deal with)
    - wilderness hiking means exercise
    - opportunity for photographers
    - and so on

    I highly encourage it, it's rather fun.

  565. gym by engrpiman · · Score: 1

    If you go to the gyn early in the morning or late in the evening then they tend to be empty. Also you could also buy your self a weight set and then pump your own iron. I have to agree with the running. Just run for 20 mins and you will notice a difference. In reply to the Bikes running the red lights: In the state of Idaho: Bikes can run red light if no cars are in the intersection.

  566. Roller Skates by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    At weekends I did leave my house, put a roller skate on my feeth.
    Rolling skating is the best way you can get skinny

  567. Not an Anonymous Coward (I know my name) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Acting classes, pa-kua classes. Being an introvert the bes you can do is get out of home, at least twice a week.

  568. Get a sportbike ... seriously by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And then try to get into trackdays (where you ride as fast as you want/can on a road course but it's not a competitive race ... it's more about learning to ride better).

    How will that make you lose weight? Well for starters ona track day you'll generally do 5-7 20 minute sessions on the track and wrestling a 400lb+ motorcycle through tight corners is HARD WORK. Plus you'll need good gear, namely a tight leather racesuit. Those suits are expensive, so you defintely don't want to gain any weight after you purchase one!

    I'm throughly addicted to trackdays and actually work out so I enjoy them more. Jogging a couple days a week and doing pushups/pullups/crunches every morning goes a long way to being able to fight off fatigue on the bike. Personally I need a goal like that, something tangible and fun that I'm working towards. I'm not vain and worried about how I look on the beach, so just weightloss in and of itself isn't enough to motivate me. Trying to do something I enjoy, and trying to do it better works for me.

    Maybe it's not trackdays for you, maybe it's a softball league, or wanting to finish a triathalon or something. Have a goal.

  569. Geekercize by stewbacca · · Score: 1

    How Do Geeks Exercise? Two words buddy: Speed Typing

  570. Katas are useless by puddles · · Score: 1

    Can't help but notice that anytime Karateka's spar (on the rare occasions they do) all the katas go out the window and it devolves into some weird kickboxing match.

    Might as well take up Kyukushin or Sanshou ...

  571. In World of Warcraft by tillerman35 · · Score: 1

    In World of Warcraft, run between zones instead of summoning a mount or taking a hippogriff (and make sure you set the option that makes your character run instead of walk). That should burn some extra calories.

  572. How do geeks exercise? by bigrigdriver · · Score: 1

    I'll just continue using my ski machine which allows natural motion of my legs, combined with natural arm swing, to exercise muscles from shoulder level down to my feet. The oblique muscles at my waist get exercise, and by exaggerating the arm swing and shoulder motion, I can increase the exercise level of the obliques. An interesting thing I have noticed is that, when I reach my target heart rate, if I increase my speed along with the exaggerated arm swing and shoulder motion, my heart rate decreases. I'm guessing that the increased contraction of those large oblique muscles is helping to pump the blood and easing the work load on my heart.

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  573. Try Crossfit by Disoculated · · Score: 1

    Try Crossfit. It's an open-source style method of fitness where the workout of the day is posted every day, using (mostly) simple equipment, is easily scaled to your needs, and is meant to work your whole body instead of focusing on just cardio or just weights.

    My experience (which admittedly may vary) is that you can do these exercises at home, or go to a gym/dojo that offers Crossfit and get a very affordable trainer in a very easygoing atmosphere. Usually there are lots of other beginners so there's very little macho BS and everyone is helpful.

  574. Firing ranges are useless by argent · · Score: 1

    Have you ever noticed that when soldiers fight they hardly ever do so in a firing range and never police up the brass?

    (note for the humor-challenged, this is sarcasm)

    1. Re:Firing ranges are useless by puddles · · Score: 1

      Completely miss the point ... but that's OK, you got to demonstrate your off-the-target sarcasm.

  575. Re:Technical explanation; didn't rtfa. by fearofcarpet · · Score: 5, Informative

    To specifically address the question posed (what do we, the Slashdot readers, do to stay in shape):

    I eat vegetarian; low dairy, lots of beans, tempeh, and seasonal fruits/veggies. I bring my lunch to work every day which is cheaper and more nutritious than buying it.

    I lift weights three times a week for an hour emphasizing multi-join and body-weight-resistance exercises like pull-ups, push-ups, dips, incline and hanging crunches, etc.

    I bike to work whenever the weather permits.

    I run 5 km at least once a week (though bad knees sometimes demand that I go for a long walk instead).

    All of this combined yields a weekly time commitment of about 3.5 hours of exercise plus 90 minutes of biking to and from work (2 mi each way). I'm 185 lbs, 6'1", and I fill out my nerdy T-shirts in the shoulders, not the belly. I don't have six-pack, but I certainly don't have a gut. All around I feel very health even though the vast, vast, majority of my time is spent sitting on my ass in front of a computer at work.

    I don't care whose biology teacher told them what about which calories are burned by how many muscles, but my whopping 3.5 hours a week of exercise entitles me to all the beer I can drink and stuffing my face with burritos to my heart's content without gaining a fraction of an inch around my waste line (which hasn't changed in 15 years). And no, I'm not one of those skinny nerds than can eat Taco Bell every day and still look like a bent coat hanger.

    I think that the big trick to staying healthy is sticking with your routine, whatever it is. Don't just go on a diet and start running in response to feeling fat and out of shape. Biking to work is a great way to start and, depending on where you live, has the added benefit of being faster than driving.

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  576. Arm chair exersice by muzicman · · Score: 0

    Well if you don't want to go out you could do a few sets of my armchair exercises. I keep a set of weights next to my chair and when I am thinking about a problem I will pick up the weights and do various exercises. Another one I do is sitting on the edge of the chair and raising my legs parallel to the ground and see how long I can hold them there for. When you are watching TV and the adverts come on you can do some cat stretches (similar to a Hindu press up), sit ups and squats. Whilst all these exercises are great you do need to work on flexibility as well. To do this make sure you do a lot of stretches as well. If you don't like traditional exercises in front of people because you are introverted try something different like rock climbing. This is great for building upper body strength and losing weight. You can lose 1000 calories in an hour if you really go for it. I wouldn't recommend this however to start of with as the next day you will wish you were dead because of the pain in your forearms. 2 hours ever other day is more than enough to start out with. Also martial arts are a great way to lose weight and build muscle mass. You could buy a running machine, rowing machine, and some weights for your house. You have to remember though that all this advice you have been given is useless if you are going to eat pizza and drinks cola all day long. You need a reasonable diet. I am not saying don't eat pizza or drink cola but just do in in moderation. I was 16 stone (224 pounds) and am now 14 stone (196 pounds). This may not sound like much of a loss in weight but if you consider that muscle weighs more than fat my BMI is quite low. I am still a way of having a six pack but that is mainly due to the six pack in my fridge. Hope this has helped.

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  577. Quite a few comments about "no full contact" MA by puddles · · Score: 1

    Then why bother? I'm sick and tired of McDojo's run by pudgy Sensei's who's never seen a cardio workout in the last fifteen years. Punching air and doing elaborate kata's don't burn enough calories and you don't condition yourself doing that.

    Go take up Muay Thai or Judo (or both). That'll do you some good.

  578. How Geeks Exercise by knghtrider · · Score: 1

    Take up an outdoor hobby that involves motion. You say you're an introvert? Take up angling and buy a Kayak. I don't know where you're from, but there is a GREAT guy in Maryland, Jeff 'Yakfish' Little who teaches kayak fishing. He's certified across the board when it comes to kayaking. While I don't recommend kayaking solo in unfamiliar territory that may include dangerous Class II and above waters, if you have relatively calm waters--even a large lake or reservoir paddle the shoreline. You can paddle year-round with proper gear

    Shameless plug for Yakfish.

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  579. Yes, bike. by haaz · · Score: 1

    For me, the exercise-at-home thing just doesn't work. Rather than getting lost in the long long thread about bike to work, I'll say that I've been biking just a few miles around Milwaukee every other day or so, with one long 15 mile ride on Saturday. It's far better than trying to ride an indoor bike, which is frustrating to me, as it doesn't go anywhere. Whereas on the real bicycle, I get fresh air, which is possible even in The City, and much more satisfying exercise. Those bike machines are useless to me now. I'd rather walk or run around an indoor track a dozen times than sit atop a bike machine going nowhere. At least on the track, the scenery slightly changes with every step.

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  580. Sport by cHALiTO · · Score: 1

    I play football (soccer for our yank friends) 4 times a week, one hour at a time in 5vs5 fields. There's *PLENTY* of those here in Buenos Aires. Dunno where you live, but maybe there's another sport you like that you could practice. The hard part is getting your friends to agree on a schedule, but it's good exercise and we have a good laugh too.

    I hate the idea of just running (especially on a machine) but having an objective, and playing with a team is lots of fun. Kinda like playing CS ;)

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  581. Uber Geek Work out by molex333 · · Score: 1

    Monday: 100 reps Mountain Dew Curling Tuesday: 100 reps Phone reciever lifting Wendsday: Take the stairs to your meetings (both up and down) Thursday:Roller Derby with office charis (good leg workout) Friday: Nija sneak out of office an hour early then run across the parking lot to your car (cardio workout)

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    1. Re:Uber Geek Work out by molex333 · · Score: 1

      As I was only kidding about the above, try the Hacker's Diet: http://www.fourmilab.ch/hackdiet/ It was written by the creator of AutoDesk, He used to be overweight and created this diet for himself. Coupled with just a basic exercise regimen (take a daily walk and keep doing your situps and push ups) and you should be fine!

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  582. Tai Chi - Power and weapons training by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've had 2 years of practice in taichi now, and apparently I've had the luck to stumble upon a good teacher. Ask for lineage and trophies won, preferably in open martial arts championships.

    I had had a period of very little exercise, and as such, the basic form practice was already very exhausting to me. My legs and back had nicely toned up after 6 months, with one hour of exercise per day, which included half an hour of form practice, and half an hour of more souplesse and also strength exercises. At that time I already knew the complete 120 stance form, plus fighting applications.

    After the holidays we started weapons training. I am now finishing sabre form, which is a very intense one, to be executed fast and vigorously. After that I will train sword and spear, and after that inner school, which will further increase my strength. Participating in tournaments now motivates me to build up more strength, so now I also use some 3lb weights.

    There are so many aspects to taichi that it can be practiced to survive like a pussy, or to become a lean mean killing machine like myself ^^

  583. really surprised by blade.labs · · Score: 1

    Pretty huge number of sporty guys for a nerd site. Seems even more than total number of apple worshipping penguins.

  584. Good cardio Workout by it0 · · Score: 1

    For a good cardio workout you can do at home I can recommend the video from Tom Holland.
    http://www.teamholland.com/

    It's a no nonsense workout, no weird edits or pep talks, just a 42 min workout that does it all.
    It's not expensive also, except if you buy some adjustable weights which I can recommend.

    It just requires discipline. I do this 3 nights a week plus some extra activity and I can really notice the difference. Yes this sounds like a sale talk, it just happens to work for me, so I hope it will for you.

  585. Perhaps you could make the point clearer? by argent · · Score: 1

    Hmmmm?

    1. Re:Perhaps you could make the point clearer? by puddles · · Score: 1
      OK, will bite :) In many styles of Karate, the kata's practiced in class follow rigid patterns of movements, attack like so, deflect like so, block like so, etc. There are many named techniques involved in these kata's (and self-defense sets).

      In sparring, however, those techniques are seldom, if ever, used. Especially when pitted against another martial artist who practices a different style (e.g., Muay Thai or BJJ). IMHO, the more elaborate techniques in kata's are seldom used because they seldom are useful in actual practice. Try catching a Muay Thai roundhouse with a hand grab and that'll be the last time you try that. Try to work on pressure point on someone's punch (good luck catching the pressure point to begin with), and you'll eat another punch in the combo. Same goes for elaborate "counters" where, in class, an Uke does a half-hearted lunge punch and stand completely still while the defender goes berzerk with a five-technique sequence involving pressure-point and ending with a 180-degree turn foot sweep. I have yet to see someone actually do this in sparring or full-contact fight.

      What's practiced in class and what's actually used in the match are vastly different.

      This guy here: http://www.24fightingchickens.com/2008/06/23/why-do-you-have-to-learn-it-all/ said it like so:

      The truth is that you can win at sparring competitions with three techniques. You can win kata competitions without ever learning to spar. The two activities are almost entirely isolated and call upon entirely different skills and abilities. People talented at the one are rarely talented at the other./p?

    2. Re:Perhaps you could make the point clearer? by argent · · Score: 1

      Yes, I understand that point... I guess I figured the analogy I was making was clear enough: shooting in a rifle range (or even in something like biathlon) is nothing like combat. Katas (or even sparring) are not fights. They're all parts of the same discipline, though. In combat you don't have time for everything that you're trained for on the range, but because you've done all those things over and over again you have the muscle memory, the toolkit. The kata is a framework for training your muscles that you can use without having to have a sparring opponent. You don't learn the kata to win at kata competitions (my sensei, I am sure, would agree with me), you learn them to give you a toolkit you can use in sparring or (heaven forfend) even real fighting.

  586. my advice by BenphemeR · · Score: 1

    Buy those Bowflex Free-Weights and an adjustable bench. Plenty of exercises you can do with those.

  587. Re:Tai Chi by LS · · Score: 1

    Sorry to be pedantic, but I've been studying Taiji in Beijing for the last three years, so here it goes.

    First, using the modern pinyin spelling of Taiji instead of Tai Chi helps reduce confusion. Chi is most often pronounced "chee", but in actuality should be pronounced "jee", especially since qi (pronounced chee) is a difference concept, that of the energy flow in the body.

    Anyway, there are several forms of Taiji, one of them being Yang style, which is what most people are aware of in western countries, and what you are practicing, since you mention the 108 form.

    There's nothing wrong with the Yang style, but it is an offshoot of the original Chen style, which still exists and is practiced today. It is much more athletic and trains actual fighting technique. If you learn and practice the 83 form properly, you will be in a 90-degree knee bend for more than 20 minutes, and find yourself soaked in sweat by the end of the routine. You also need to do extensive stretching in order to achieve the kicks involved in the routine.

    A classic video demonstrating a well-known master, Chen Xiaowang, can be seen here. This video displays the "cannon fist" routine, which is a fast version of the 83, and starts picking up about one minute into it.

    Read more about Chen style Taiji if you are interested in some serious athletic and martial training along with your meditative movements. Taiji teaches you to play your body the way you play a musical instrument, and is thus a difficult and long process, but as with an instrument, the results are amazing after a few years...

    LS

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  588. simplefit.org by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Since seemingly no one actually answered the question, here is the correct response: www.simplefit.org

  589. The Hacker's Diet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    John Walker, the founder of Autodesk, came up with "The Hacker's Diet":

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hacker's_Diet

    Getting and keeping wait off is very simple: burn more calories then you take in. His system basically has you measure how much you take in, and gives you an exercise regiment that helps you burn it off. He designed it so that you wouldn't need any gym equipment and it can even be done indoors.

  590. Re:Tai Chi by LS · · Score: 1

    I'm sorry, but your friend is being milked by his teacher...

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  591. Triathlon by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    because normal sports just aren't awesome enough.

    But remember, the spandex must be earned.

  592. Re:Get out. Have some fun. by Synn · · Score: 1

    I'd third this suggestion. I think the best way to keep healthy is to just have a good diet and stay active.

    I skydive, kayak, ride motorcycles, have a rowing machine in my home(which either gets a lot of use or none). But just going out and doing stuff is the easiest/best way to stay fit.

    http://meetup.com has a lot of activities to choose from and they don't cost a lot. Hiking, dancing, bike riding, rock climbing, rollerblading, etc. Just pick up a couple activities that requires some muscle power and do them. And on the plus side it keeps you from being a shut in in the apartment and you meet a lot of interesting people.

  593. Workout at home? Rowing Machine! by permaculture · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Whatever you do, don't join a gym! So many people pay a monthly fee but just don't go often enough.

    I used to cycle, but that did very little for my upper body. Nowadays I row on an indoor rowing machine. Rowing has a lot going for it:

    1) Low impact. Less wear on your knees than running or cycling. Swimming is another low impact exercise.

    2) Works every major muscle group in the body - arms, legs, back, stomach, chest. http://www.rowsport.com/rowsport/index.php?page=get_page&id=XJSC4F8-UHUNAG0-93C15ZR-SL280W1 Swimming, Nordic skiing and Nautilus machines do this too.

    3) Uniquely, when rowing you work both legs together, then both arms together. Other exercises work your limbs alternately. I theorise that you can expend more calories this way. Rowing with a sliding seat has been the best way to get maximum work out of a human body for the last couple of hundred years. It's stood the test of time.

    4) Since it's an expensive machine just for exercise, that's an incentive to make use of it. It's sort of a gadget, like a PDA. Boys like toys and enjoy playing with them.

    5) As you refine your technique: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXnKyJdA01w you can achieve new personal records, then try to beat those records. That helps with motivation.

    6) Unlike running or weight training, rowing provides a dynamic load to work against. The harder you pull, the greater the resistance.

    7) Having a rowing machine at home means you don't waste time commuting to the gym. That makes it easier to exercise every day.

    I've been rowing since February 2007, and at one point I lost 14 pounds in four months. This isn't much compared to some, but slow and steady is better for you than crash dieting.

    Rowing is not for everyone and some people really do well with a gym membership, I'm sure. This is just IMHO - YMMV.

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    Environmentalism is the new Victorianism. Everyone ties on a green corset and pretends we're virtuous.
    1. Re:Workout at home? Rowing Machine! by ChrisA90278 · · Score: 1

      I find that any of those machines get boring quickly. You are better off finding something you enjoy doing and then just do that. I ride my bike some. I've started going on some Sierra Club hikes (typically 6+ miles and 1,500 feet gains) and my gym has a pool but I only swim there once or twice a week. I scuba dive at least one a week (but that hardly counts as exercise.) Last Sunday I spend about 10 hours up a ladder trimming trees and hauls off the mountain of trimmings. It's Wed. and I'm still sore.

      About that rowing machine: I think I'd loose interrest quickly buy I could see myself buying a boat. Rowing a real racing shell out on the water seem a lot more fun than using a machine indoors. Same with stationary bicycles. I like my road bike better.

      What I'm saying is that you need to mix it up and do many things. Just keep active about one hour a day on average. If you do things you like you will not think of it as a "chore" or even as "exercise". Like I'm thinking of next Sat. when I get to spend a few hours walking up to the top of this big hill with some "new" people I'm getting to know. Exercise should be the desirable side effect of doing something that you'd do anyways. So just try stuff and see what sticks.

  594. Rockclimbing by sdemjanenko · · Score: 1

    GO rockclimbing or sit out on cold nights looking up at the stars. You will burn calories either way.

  595. Another suggestion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I haven't gone through the 1100+ comments on your predicament, and only hope you will dig deep enough to see this -0- points AC post.

    I'm in very good physical shape, I'm an introvert, and I work in front of the computer for about 12 hours a day (not counting the free time spent there, or commuting).

    Several things I do to keep in shape:

    1.) I keep a 25-lb weight at my desk at work. I can do a few sets of curls every day, at my desk. Nobody is bothered by it, and I can do it in private. Find a weight you are comfortable with and stick with it, go on the internet and learn how to do "correct" curls that will tone and strengthen.

    2.) I have a home gym, with an exercise bike. I don't like other people, nor do I like biking in the elements. If I'm going to sweat, it's going to be in my 68 degree basement where I can play Nintendo on the bike. This is good for aerobics.

    3.) Increase the sit-ups. 200 / day, doing it the right way, will do wonders for flattening and toning the muscle. Eventually you can get it down to under 5 minutes.

    4.) Eat right. Some people can cut out soda, I can't, but I did move to salad some days for lunch.

    I hope some of this helps. From one introvert to the other, it really does help build a better body without interacting with other people.

  596. Buy some weights, do some pushups. by nmaster64 · · Score: 1

    http://hundredpushups.com/

    I've recently started on this routine. It's as simple as you can get, you can do it anywhere, and it only takes a few minutes out of your week to do. And it works.

    I also recommend buying some simple weights (should be able to find some at Wal-mart even), and just lift whenever your hands are free, such as when your reading a big article online. Some Googling can find you some alternative routines you can do with the weights too, so you work out different muscles.

    As some people have mentioned, Karate is a really fun way to exercise, and it has tons of other benefits such as discipline and self-defense training. There are other options too if you wanna get out of the house, such as Swimming or Kendo.

  597. I do P90X by Drunken_Piper · · Score: 1

    Maybe it's too intense a workout for you. But it's exactly what I needed. I, like you, didn't want to go to the gym. And I abhor the treadmill. It's a great mix of strength training and cardio. All you need is a few dumbbells. And a chinup bar. There's lots of variety in P90X. There's 8 or 9 different push-ups, 9 or 10 different ab exercises.

  598. Re:Technical explanation; didn't rtfa. by DuckDodgers · · Score: 1

    Yes, the strength training burns more calories.

    But in my experience, the strength training will make you dramatically hungrier than the aerobic training. If you have a will of iron, the difference is irrelevant. But if you have a will of iron, staying thin is easy regardless of your choice of exercise.

    I'm not knocking resistance training. I greatly prefer it. But I've never been able to lose fat while doing serious strength training several times per week. My shoulders, biceps, and other muscles got bigger, but at best my waist stayed the same size as when I started.

  599. Re:Technical explanation; didn't rtfa. by Tsunayoshi · · Score: 1

    Statistics I heard many years ago from a sports coach:

    1 lb of fat requires 10 calories a day to maintain
    1 lb of muscle requires 40 calories a day

    So even you you didn't lose any weight in a strength training program, if you swapped 10 lbs of fat for 10lbs of muscle, you would not only be thinner, but would be burning an extra 300 calories a day just by breathing (the equivalent of 2 cans of soda).

    --
    "Get a bicycle. You will not regret it, if you live." - Mark Twain, "Taming the Bicycle"
  600. Get out. Have some fun. Go geocaching. by rfrenzob · · Score: 1

    If you want to add some geek to the workout, on light days go geocaching. Some of the caches around my area are a 2+ mile hike from the closest parking lot. Good way to get some walking in without that "I have to do this" feeling.

    If you don't have a hand held GPS the Garmin eTrex Legend has worked well for me and goes for ~100 online.

  601. Counting Calories by Danathar · · Score: 1

    Although people will try to over complicate things, it's a simple of matter of expending more energy than you take in.

    How you accomplish that is up to you, but there is no mystery to losing weight. The mystery is finding something that you can keep doing on a regular basis.

  602. Home Workout Bible by Lou Schuler by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Get the "Home Workout Bible" by Lou Schuler. It's all exercises you can do at home using your own body weight, or props (a small carry-on bag, cans of food) if you don't have actual weights to use. Of course, free weights can be used too and the exercises are mostly for full-body fitness and functional strength (so you don't get fifty variations on bicep curls, but rather, a bent over row, which works the biceps, back, and builds your stability).

    I also recommend Schuler and Alwyn Cosgrove's "New Rules of Lifting." For that, you might have to substitute some of the "Home Workout Bible" exercises, but it's a great comprehensive guide to weight training and fitness.

    If you want to gradually acquire some equipment, there is a good guide to a starter garage gym on the Crossfit web site, here:
    http://crossfitweekendwarriors.typepad.com/homegym.htm

    Good luck,

    C

  603. Orienteering might be perfect for you! by Terje+Mathisen · · Score: 1

    Please take a close look at orienteering.

    This is a perfect sport for a thinking person, where you start individually, run/jog/walk around in the forest for some time trying to visit a number of control points (marked on the map you got at the start), before ending up at the finish line.

    The main point is that you have no spectators at all, you move around at your own speed, and while running you have to concentrate a lot on finding the best possible route to the next control. (In very steep uphills I often find that I need to walk a lot "to check the map". :-)

    Since a lot of orienteers are geeks, we have software available to organize events, custom RFID tags used to document each control point as you visit it, and lots of software to do post-competition analysis of your run.

    I live in Oslo, Norway where I can take part in 'O' events 3-4 times each week, but in the US (if this is where you live) there are active clubs in all the main geek areas (Bay Area, Seattle, Portland etc).

    When I visited Seattle in April I contacted the local club and got electronic copies of three maps in the area that have permanent courses on them.

    Good luck!

    Terje

    --
    "almost all programming can be viewed as an exercise in caching"
  604. My routine by Jason+Levine · · Score: 1

    I'll admit that I don't stick to a routine as much as I should, but I have three things to help me exercise:

    1 - a small pedal machine stashed under my desk. While at work, I can pedal away turning a completely sedentary activity into one that burns some calories.
    2 - WiiFit. Yes, this is actually a good workout. (Though lately I've been distracted by a borrowed copy of Super Mario Galaxy.) You might want to get some wrist/leg weights to improve the workout.
    3 - Two small children. You'd be surprised how active a nearly-5 year old and a 1 year old can keep you. Between running around while playing with them, lifting them up, or running to keep them out of trouble, they never fail to give me a good workout.

    --
    My sci-fi novel, Ghost Thief, is now available from Amazon.com.
  605. Disc Golf by Mr_Perl · · Score: 1

    All summer I like to visit the local disc golf courses. If you walk fast and its warm out you can burn off some of the flab, and it's easy to make a habit of the game.

    --

    My poetry site welcomes the unusual.
  606. Walking by hitest · · Score: 1

    I like to eat too much and on occasion consume too many beers. I'm trying to cut down on the amount of calories I ingest, limit my beer intake, and walk or bike 5-6 times per week. It is slowly working, my gut is shrinking:-)

  607. Change eatings habits by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Eating habits and a healthy lifestyle are just as important as exercise. You didn't mention anything about how you eat... but try seeing a nutritionist or doing some reading on the subject.

  608. My routines by WerewolfOfVulcan · · Score: 1

    I do Bowflex, Dance Dance Revolution, Wii Fit, yoga, and floor exercises (pushups, situps, etc).

    I also stopped drinking sodas (no diet drinks either), and stopped eating deep fried foods (i.e. chicken, tortilla chips, fries, etc). After four years, I now occasionally eat fried chicken and I might have had three sodas in the past four years.

    I read labels on food and make informed decisions about what to eat. If something I eat is high in fat, it's also either high in protein or other nutrients.

    I stopped refilling my chocolate drawer at work and stopped putting three tablespoons of sugar in my coffee.

    I don't deny myself anything, but when I indulge, I do so with restraint.

    I went from 225 to 180 and have kept my weight between 180-185 for over two years.

  609. Suggestion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Have you considered the Hawaii Chair?

  610. Hacker diet by chafor · · Score: 1

    I personally follows this http://www.fourmilab.ch/hackdiet/ There's a useful training program in it

  611. Men's Health by jakob_grimm · · Score: 1

    The Men's Health magazine website has some really good workouts - with weights/equipment and without. They have workout directions you can print and videos you can download to your iPod. Men's Health Fitness

    --

    "No prints can come from fingers / If machines become our hands." -- Jack Johnson

  612. Take a lesson from prisoners by bamwham · · Score: 1

    Do Burpees (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burpee ) Developed by the other class of people who stay in a small room for much of their day. Get into a habit of doing a set when you wake up and another at night. I started them because of a long series of traveling where I needed a way to get an effecient workout done in a hotel room. I supplement these with biking to work and long walks with my dog.

  613. Try climbing. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    While it is not something you can do in the house (unless you set up your own walls), its mental focus is perfect for geeks.

  614. Get a Dog by bamwham · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Long walks with a dog. Solitary, at your pace. and the dog has many other benifits to your life (just owning one has been shown to lower your blood pressure).

  615. Have you tried DDR? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Dance Dance Revolution won't work all your muscle groups, but it will provide a great aerobic exercise and do a good number on your leg muscles.

    Personal success story: Using only DDR, I went from 230 to 180 lbs and a set of solid legs I could strangle a horse with. Once I reached 180, I decided to try jogging and was able to start off doing 3 miles (3x farther than I've ever jogged in my life).

    Best part is you can do it from the comfort of your home with the PS1 and PS2 versions. I recommend the basement or a sturdy floor, quite a bit of jumping is involved. I also suggest better dancing pads than the Konami ones, RedOctane.com has a great padded one that is easier on the joints and moves around less.

  616. Eat Less by DeFKnoL · · Score: 1

    Most people eat much more than they need to. If you eat more slowly, you may realize that you do not need to eat quite as much.

  617. To answer the question... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    To answer the original question:

    "Do any Slashdotters have a regular workout routine that can be performed in the privacy of the home to stave off those pounds?"

    I'm proud to say that I have went from a flabby, 180 lbs. to a toned skinny, toned 200 by following a nice regiment. The main thing in shredding weight\gaining mass is patience and persistence. Nothing is going to happen overnight. The key to losing weight or gaining mass or both isn't to just either run 400 miles a week or work out 3 times a day, but a solid combination of both, along with a steady healthy diet. For me, I generally do resistance training 3 times a week, each day targeted towards a specific muscle group (i.e. Monday: Chest\Triceps; Wednesday: Back\Biceps, Friday: Legs\Shoulders). Usually on my weight training days, I try to fit in 30-45 minutes of cardio AFTER working out. If you wait until after weight training, you start immediately burning fat instead of consuming the glycogen stores in your cells. On the off days, I usually just do cardio, maybe some abs, for approx. 45 minutes to an hour. You don't need to maintain a dead sprint during this time, as this is not good for you. There is a healthy "zone" that you need to keep your heartrate within to burn the most fat. Anything above this zone will result in cardiovascular training. Rest is also a very important factor. Make sure you get plenty of rest. Finally, make sure you eat as healthy as possible. I know it's hard for us nerds to go without our caffeine, but it's well worth it. Try to drink as much water as possible. Eat loads of chicken and seafood (Good protein paired with lots of Omega-3). If you are doing resistance training, you need to drink 2-3 protein shakes a day. Just design a good, solid program and adhere to it, and I promise you will start noticing results. Heck, if I can do it, I know for a fact, anybody can. I promise.

  618. keep fit with a wee by imnotbutyouare · · Score: 1

    I bought a 'wee' and have been playing 'wee' sport, particularly boxing. I've lost a few pounds alreay, my wife wants to get wee fit, but is it worth anohter £70?

  619. DO experimenting and statistics. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's all in the mind.

    DO experimenting and statistics.

    make a target, get a plan and try to achieve it. Keep statistics. (I like data mining, especially my data :) Processing the data is delicious.

      the data i'm collecting is my daily exercising routine. And I'm doing year long experiments with my fitness.

    In that way exercising gets interesting and exciting. One surely doesn't want to miss a record in his statistics data series. It spoils the whole process and ruins the experiment!

    What exercises are you doing is not that important. Do some pushups, yoga or both - for example ashtanga yoga is push-ups yoga, jogging, swimming, stretch ...

  620. Re:Tai Chi by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Tai Chi is not Kung Fu "slowed down". Tai Chi was created to beat the heck out of people. Every one of those "slow moves" is actually practice to break a bone or rip a joint apart.

    It is almost impossible to find a Tai Chi teacher in the US that knows and teaches the martial aspects of Tai Chi. When you train the martial aspects, part of the training involves doing the moves really slow. This is so you can get the correct body mechanics down. Once you have the mechanics trained then you speed them up. It just so happens that the slow training is also good for balance and flexiblity.

  621. Triathlon have high geek factor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Triathlons.

    You can really maximize the geek factor when you work all three disciplines. Swimming is very technique oriented and non-impact.

    Cycling has a huge array of toys. You can get fairly affordable carbon fiber or titanium bike (esp used). Training by power is all the rage, so that's more toys. What is your functional threshold power? normalized power per ride? correlate with heart rate (you are wearing a heart rate monitor, right?). At least one new power meter will hook into your Garmin or PDA with open source software coming out in the next year or so (e.g. http://www.quarq.us/). Dozens of software package let you over analze all this stuff with great charts and things.

    Running allows you to justify additional toys like the Garmin or Polar cadence/pace/gps/time/heartrate systems, with associated analysis software.

    Plus when you get into longer events like half or full iron distance events you can play with nutrition as well. Maximizes digestable calories on the go with custom-designed gatorade (http://www.infinitnutrition.us/).

    Surely that's geeky enough!

    You do have to actually exercise though. You can't just mount the bike on the wall. All that exercise, might make you more fit and lose weight too, but that's just a side-effect.

  622. 3 words. John Stone Fitness by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Go here and read and learn:
    http://www.johnstonefitness.com/

    It has changed my life in the last year.

    The person that runs it is an IT guy that decided to change his life (see link for pictures)

    http://www.johnstonefitness.com/php/pictures.php

  623. rex kwan do by Joe+the+Lesser · · Score: 1

    Rex: At Rex Kwan Do, we use the buddy system. No more flying solo. You need somebody watching your back at all times. Second off, you're gonna learn to discipline your image. You think I got where I am today because I dressed like Peter Pan over here?
    [points to Kip]
    Rex: Take a look at what I'm wearing, people. You think anybody wants a roundhouse kick to the face while I'm wearing these bad boys? Forget about it. Last off, my students will learn about self respect. You think anybody thinks I'm a failure because I go home to Starla at night? Forget about it!

    --
    "I only speak the truth"
    Karma: null(Mostly affected by an unassigned variable)
  624. Couch to 5K + gadgets by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Get a decent pair of running shoes for your own good and get out there.. There are a number of "couch to 5K" programs on the web. They usually take 6-8 weeks and have a slow ramp up to the 5K goal. The 3 times a week routines can be quite detailed (run 1/4mi, walk 1/4, run, 1/2, walk 1/4 etc etc) which may keep you interested.

    There are also some gadgets that may make running more interesting to you. There are a number of heart monitor and pedometers out there. Nike+ is kinda cool as it records your distance and time into an ipod, uploading all data to a nike website to track trends and motivate you.

    It may interest you as to WHY running is so hard at first (I mean it's just shuffling you legs right?). Read a little about endurance, strength, the physiology of running, and heart rate - then get a heart rate monitor (a cheap watch one will do). You'll learn all kinds of things about your body. Record data every time you run and you'll soon be running just to collect more data and make nice reports.. go nerds.

    Take it easy though.. Part of the problem is that many people go out way to hard. Follow the couch to 5k program. It's deliberately slow. It is designed to get your muscles, joints, connective tissue prepared for running. You may be able to propel your body 3 miles at first go, but your body is really going to bitch about it later, possibly in the form of injury.

    One you get into the habit of going out the door rather than turning on the TV in the early evening you'll find it much easier. You'll have alot more energy to boot.

    -t

  625. Slashdotter who is also a jock says... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    I am a fairly regular anon coward here (I don't troll though). I am also a jock. I would recommend taking a look at the book "Naked Warrior" (goofy title, I know but only startup costs are the book) or google "body weight culture" and there is a group all about solo exercises based off of the body. If you don't mind spending money, kettlebells rock out but are also quite intense.

    Seriously though, at any grown up gym no one is judging you if you are polite and not dressed like an idiot.

  626. Get out. by SpiderEternal · · Score: 1

    I say get outside. Go take martial arts, hit a gym, go running, do anything! If you MUST stay inside, then do pushups, changing the position of your hands to cover all directions eventually. Also, be sure to do plenty of stretches; make yourself hurt. If you have a bar, do pullups. Goddamn it boy, not everything can be done from home. Get your ass outside! No point in looking good if you can't even show it off.

  627. Re:Tai Chi by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I agree that traditional Chinese Kung fu (not redundant, kung fu means great skill achieved through effort) is a fantastic method of physical conditioning, but be careful.

    Kung fu works best and makes sense as a fighting system. In the world, since Mao, traditional masters are few and far between. It is easy for someone who has watched a few videos to pass themselves off as a teacher to people who don't know better.

    My advice; if your instructor cannot spar effectively (either Tai Chi Chuan pushing hands or free sparring) find another school because all that person is doing is taking your money and teaching you step aerobics. You are getting none of the benefits of actual Tai Chi Chuan.

  628. Toning muscles won't make you lose fat. by sudog · · Score: 2, Interesting

    It'll just give you toned muscles. If you want to burn fat, you have to spend more calories than you consume. You need cardio: get the heart rate up, and keep it up. Sit-ups are also bad for you: do crunches instead.

  629. Re:Tai Chi by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What about the ridiculous number of people in China? Also, might we attribute it to the fact that they do not eat large amounts of saturated fats, trans-saturated fats, high fructose corn syrup, and generally eat more vegetables & fruits?

  630. No by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    32 and still a beanpole. My diet is (has always been) what nutritionists typically consider junk. Exercise? No, why would I? I have tried to put on weight (I'm hovering around 140 lb) and actually failed because I can't force myself to over-eat that much. I have no fat uncles on either side. I guess I won the genetic lottery and I also have self control when it comes to food. But not with computers because if I'm at home, I am either sleeping or sitting in front of the PC.

  631. Weight Control by KiwiCanuck · · Score: 1

    First, check with your doctor before beginning any diet or exercise program. There are many ways to reduce unwanted pounds. Eating sensibly is number one. If you simply eat less calories, you will lose weight. This will shrink you stomach, but it will not shed (much) body fat. However, this means that whatever food you do eat must be good for you. Excess sugar (soft drinks), salt, and fat (deep fried foods) should be avoided as much as possible. Eating 5-10 servings of fruit and veg will help. Fruit is mostly water, but contains a lot of vitamins and minerals your body needs to function. The actual size of a serving is never clearly defined. I typically, treat a serving as half the size of my fist, but I do lean more towards 10 rather than 5 servings. Nutritionists are constantly finding new things in food. So I try to keep the variety high. Also, try drinking a cup of water before every meal. Drink plenty of water (6-10 cups a day). The signal for thirst and hunger are the same. You may think you are hungry, but in fact you are thirsty. Try drinking a cup of water when you feel hungry. wait 5-10 minutes, if you are still hungry, then you probably are hungry. Running on a treadmill, elliptical, arc trainer will burn fat. Depending on your age, training will vary. Get a trial membership at a gym. They typically, offer an assessment, and a beginner program. Then cancel after the trial is done, and workout at home. The trainer will help you find exercises that work for you. If you are in your 30s, eventually you will want to be burning 500-1,000 calories per session. This is a lot! Shoot for 300, and work you way up. 500-750 should be a target, but you should be able to do a session at 1,000. You won't know this value unless you're running on a machine. Which you can use in a gym.

  632. You could try by g0bshiTe · · Score: 1

    Swimming laps, or running 5 miles a day.

    --
    I am Bennett Haselton! I am Bennett Haselton!
  633. Ride your bike to work. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No excuses. Shut up and do it.

  634. P90X by ChargingPaladin · · Score: 1

    http://www.p90x.com/ I personally have done P90X before with great results and am on my second run through now. Even if you don't follow the program to the letter you can use the workouts individually on your own schedule and the diet planning is very helpful. The DVD's are available in numerous locations (wink, nudge) but the program is legitimately worth purchasing. Of course the success of any workout regimen comes down to having the discipline to keep at it.

  635. Rower and a pullup bar by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Concept 2 rower (model C, D, or E) from ebay ($600)
    Pullup Bar/station ($50 - $120)
    Chair to assist with Pullup Bar (any chair will do :)

    - Row (20 min. at various intervals)
    - Wide grip overhand pullups (2 or 3 sets)
    - Narrow grip underhand pullups (2 or 3 sets)
    - Wide Pushups (2 or 3 sets)
    - Narrow Pushup - hands 2 inches apart (2 or 3 sets)
    - Dips - if you have a pullup station with dip bars (2 or 3 sets)
    - Crunches (1 sets)
    - Situps (1 sets)

    You can do this all in 1 day for 2 or 3 days a week, or break it up in to 2 workouts you do 2 or 3 days a week (4 - 6 days total)

    Be sure to look at YouTube videos for proper rowing technique and video yourself to make sure you are doing it properly.

  636. How Do Geeks Exercise? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    1. We don't.
    2. Playing World of Warcraft.
    3. Wii Sports is exercise. Right?
    4. Watching women's tennis.
    5. Whining about Microsoft.

  637. Anonymous Coward by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Does anyone have experience with working IT while walking or even standing? The idea behind the "walkstation" from steelcase is interesting for a number of reasons (unfortunately their rather expensive). Finding sufficient time to exercise (their recommending >90min for weight loss now) can be a challenge when trying to balance life around a typical IT work schedule. Being able to walk slowly for 4-6 hours a day at work would seem like an ideal way to stay mentally sharp throughout the day & become more fit at the same time.

    So whats are the potential downsides? And how does it acutally work in practice?

  638. I run, its cheap and I can do it alone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A decent pair or running shoes is less that $100. (I tried running in $16 shoes from Target, but they killed my knees). They last about a year. You can run as much or as little as you want, according to your schedule, and you don't have to coordinate it with anyone. You just go. Make sure to stretch first, get enough rest at night, and get good nutrition.

    1. Re:I run, its cheap and I can do it alone by gtada · · Score: 1

      I totally agree. One thing I'd like to add is to maybe get two pairs of running shoes if you're serious about it. Letting one pair air out while you use the other pair actually extends the life of your shoes. Also, it's a good way early on to figure out what brand fits you best. A lot of people recommended Asics, but Mizuno fit me much better.

  639. Kettlebells by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Kettlebells. They're an excellent full body workout. I coach high school wrestling and have been weight training for the last 15 years. I ditched free weights four years ago for a set of kettlebells and will never go back. I do all my workouts at home. You can start out with just one kettlebell and work up from there. Get Pavel's "Enter the Kettlebell" book and DVD and you'll be hooked.

  640. If you sit down while working, you are a WOOSY! by input.expert · · Score: 1

    Calories Burned for Activity: Standing - Light
    136 calories per hour

    Crank up the vibes and move your feet.

    I work standing up at my keyboard, the World's Fastest Keyboard.

    I walk to and from the bus to work.

    I cycle to work sometimes.

    from the "father of the perfect keyboard"

  641. Free Weightloss Website by KezMaefele · · Score: 1

    Here is a free weight loss website comparable to WeightWatchers and the like. www.sparkpeople.com

  642. CrossFit, end of story by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://www.crossfit.com

  643. Honestly, a gym is the best way but... by grumpygrodyguy · · Score: 1

    "I have always been thin but all the sitting in front of the PC is taking its toll now that I'm getting older. I have begun to get a little heavier around the waist. I don't eat a lot but the weight seems to stay on these days. Most of the time I don't have the luxury of just getting out of the house/office. And being an introvert, I'm not enamored of the idea of exercising in full view of *shudder* people. I regularly do press-ups (60 per night) and sit-ups (30 per night) and some fetching and carrying, but that is all and these days it isn't enough. I need a solid and effective routine that will tone all my muscle groups efficiently. Do any Slashdotters have a regular workout routine that can be performed in the privacy of the home to stave off those pounds?"

    If you insist on not joining a gym, or can't afford to build your own home gym (most people can't), there is still a way to do what you want.

    Google: "Death by bodyweight"

    This is a great starting place: Death by bodyweight

    You may find that you'll start to really enjoy working out...in which case I'd highly recommend joining a gym. I've been doing a MWF split at my gym the past 18 months and it's really been fun. Learning what works, what doesn't, seeing progress etc.

    Also, I'm as introverted as they come...I have paranoid schizophrenia. Going to the gym has been great for me because I can be in public (i.e. around people) but not be obligated to interact with them at all. I just put on my headphones and lift, no problem. It's fun, and it's healthy for me both mentally and physically to get out and exercise.

    Btw, here's a great resource for beginner bodybuilders: Bodybuilding.com forums

    Good Luck.

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  644. Things I do. by BeansBaxter · · Score: 1

    I'm slowly losing the battle with the bulge as well but I've had some success over the last couple of years. Last year I trained for and ran the Chicago Half Marathon. I used the Smart Coach from runnersworld.com New city, some excitement and a goal really made it all worth it. I ran it alone and didn't get the greatest time in the world but I finished. I'm glad I did it.
    This year I got some workout videos and am now doing a very rigorous program called P90X in the mornings every day. It is making a big difference. If you don't want to go out you don't have to. I'm a big fan of the workout routine at this point and would recommend it to anyone who is relatively in shape and wants something more. It's a 90 day program which is nice for the goal setting as well. And it changes up once in a while so it doesn't get too stale.

  645. Elliptical! And a biccycle... by Karl+Cocknozzle · · Score: 1

    Ellipctical! It thoroughly rocks--very low/no impact on the joints (good if you're a bigger guy or have knee problems) but it still kicks your butt 9-ways from Sunday--works your heart, and your legs, arms, and chest at the same time... Efficient! And it'll tickle your geek-gadget-gene to put it together. (Here's a hint, though... Pay for "inside delivery" as this device will come on the back of a truck--not a UPS truck but an LTL freight arrangement. Trust me, they're REALLY heavy and, while in the box, difficult to move solo.)

    My elliptical is a schwinn and I paid just over US$600 for it, but its been a great investment. I've lost weight and have more energy, and my waist is smaller which has made buying clothes for my "Dress-formal" office a lot easier and cheaper.

    The bicycle is more for recreation than for aerobic exercise... I just like tooling around the neighborhood, or maybe doing a little paved trail riding... I'm not into the "extreme" bicycling that some of my friends do, I just like it as an option... "So do you want to get some dinner and then go for a bike ride?" sounds way friendlier and less... loaded... than "Let's get some drinks and go back to your place."

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  646. Crossfit. Period. by Ajaxamander · · Score: 1

    http://crossfit.com/ is a fitness "blog" that posts a new workout every day, which, with the right equipment (some can be gleaned from household items, some can't) can be done in the privacy of your own home. They also have videos of how to do all the movements. OR, if you want some *serious* motivation, find a Crossfit gym near you (they are all over the country... just search Google for "Crossfit Affiliate ." You have NO IDEA what you're capable of, physically, until you've done Crossfit regularly for a few months. Check it out, seriously.

  647. Tae Bo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm going to throw one more thing into the mix here.

    Tae Bo.

    Seriously, Billy Blanks will kick your sorry ass all over your living room.

    You will sweat like you didn't know you could, and you will be seriously damn tired, plus it only takes about 20 minutes for each video.

  648. Russian Kettlebells by JerkBoB · · Score: 1

    I won't provide any links, so I don't come off as shilling for any particular company. I happen to like the stuff that comes up in the top hits in Google, though.

    I've been using kettlebells off and on for most of the last 5 years. The exercises seem kind of crazy, especially when compared to the typical gym machine or freeweight exercises, but they're effective.

    Using kettlebells won't give you a bodybuilder (booby-builder) physique, but they will make you STRONG. Like, scary strong. Can you pick up your 50lb child with one arm and lift her over your head? I can (if she's wearing something strong enough, like a snow suit). You wouldn't know it to look at me, though. I'm not overly developed, but KB exercises strengthen core muscles (abs, obliques, back, shoulders, etc.) and force you to learn how to use all of your body to lift things.

    The target audience for KBs is usually martial artists and other such folk. I'm your typical computer guy who values his finger dexterity way too much to get into that stuff. But I hated going to the gym, and push-ups weren't doing enough to keep the flab off. Plus, I've always suffered from chronic lower-back pain. My brother (who is into martial arts) introduced me to KBs, and I've been throwing them around ever since.

    I'd better stop before this starts sounding too much like an info-mercial. I have no connection to the people selling this stuff, other than that I'm a very happy kettlebeller. Oh, one last thing. Unless you have someone to train with and learn from, make sure that you buy a book, and/or a video. The exercises are incredible, but they take time to learn, and you can hurt yourself if you don't learn proper form and technique. I've never injured myself, fwiw.

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  649. Crossfit, It loves you and Hates you by Kintanon · · Score: 1

    Check out www.crossfit.com. Most of the "Workout of the Day" workouts take around 30 minutes, some as little as 5-6 minutes, a few as long as an hour. They are all self scaling or scaled by the BrandX guys and they are heavy on MetCon which will take weight off of you with a quickness.
    The minimum equipment requirements are pretty low. It's nice to have a pullup bar and a bench and some freeweights. But you can sub bodyweight stuff for most of the weighted stuff and still get great benefits out of it.

    Try it and see.

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  650. My personal method...... by vicious0000 · · Score: 1

    Here's what I do: I bought a cheap ($180) treadmill from WalMart. I put it in front of the TV, and either put in a movie I want to watch, or some game on the 360. Turn the treadmill on, and work out to your favorite movies and some good games. It keeps you from being bored, and the time seems to just fly by.

  651. Qi Gong, Chi Kung, Internal Kung Fu by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No equipment. 10 simple movements and a simple sitting meditation that circulates metabolic energy. Builds TENDON strength, strength from the inside out, from next to the bones outward. There are stories of paralyzed stroke patients who did the exercises at first only in their minds, soon were able to walk out of hospital.

    Its all about building metabolic momentum.

    Chinese Herbalists know Shan-Zha (Haw, hawthorn fruit) is the best herb for burning fat, even fat within arteries and veins.

  652. Fear is a great motivator by dynamo · · Score: 1

    As long as you are the type to not give up easily, find something athletic-ish that you're interested in doing but seems a bit too difficult, something that happens maybe 4-6 months in the future, and sign up for it. You'll have a financial, emotional, and strategic commitment.

    Then train for it not just to 'get fit', but because if you don't, the event will physically kick your ass. When training is not the goal in itself, you are working to get yourself fit for some functional purpose that you can measure the progress toward, and it's much easier.

    It's similar to the way headphones can make a particular workout go faster, but on a larger scale.

  653. A few quick things.... by JohannVonSatan · · Score: 1

    After 27, the pounds (or kilos for the rest of the world) started piling on uncontrollably. I did several things that really helped.

    1) Stopped drinking sugar sodas. All my energy drinks are crappy tasting but low calorie and do the job.
    2) Found and old XBOX and started playing DDR. This had the unexpected side effect of my teenagers wanting to play (thus they were exercising).
    3) I tried any group work out routine (most will let you try for free once). The one that I bought into was LA Boxing's 1 hour workout routine (www.laboxing.com). Basically.. I go to work, take a 1.5 hour lunch (work out), then I don't feel guilty sitting on my tukus for the rest of the day. They also allow you to take a free class.

    The best thing about this is you can try experimenting for free until you find one that you can tolerate :)

  654. Run / Weight Train by l33tDad · · Score: 1

    I run a min of 3.1 miles (a 5k) a day (with the exception of Sunday) at around a 8.5 min pace, on the weekends I usually do 9.3 miles (15k) plus I go to the gym to weight train 3 times a week. I'm thinking of training for a triathlon... Yes, I'm a fit Geek... Wasn't always though - 2 years ago I was pushing 290lbs & now at 40 years old, I weigh 183 with 11.1% body fat. BEST thing about all that exercise is that I can pretty much eat what I want.

  655. Rock Climbing. by plebeian · · Score: 1

    Having tried Cycling, White Water Kayaking, Hiking, and the standard aerobic equipment at the Gym. I must say going to the rock gym 3 times a week for 30min - 1 Hr had the largest positive impact on the shape of my body. Most of the other exorcizes tended to bulk up different parts of my body. If you have problems with your hands or wrists I would talk to a doctor before trying it. When climbing there can be tremendous strain on your fingers and hand injuries that could impact your ability to type are common.

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    "I myself am made entirely of flaws, stitched together with good intentions."
  656. Find an activity you like by swordgeek · · Score: 1

    Everyone seems to be suggesting THEIR answer, which is OK but might not be YOUR answer.

    For instance, a few people have said that going to the gym is the perfect solution. I *HATE* gyms, and if I relied on one for my fitness, I'd be dead by now (either from bad health or suicide). Ditto for elliptical trainers and treadmills, and really anything that is exercise for the sake of exercise.

    Personally, I cycle and fence. The key is that I _enjoy_ the activities, which makes it far easier to get motivated to do them. If you hate what you're doing, you won't do it. Never schedule misery into your day.

    So find something that you like doing, and stick to it.

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    "People who do stupid things with hazardous materials often die." -- Jim Davidson on alt.folklore.urban
  657. Who needs a Wii? by Chemisor · · Score: 1
  658. Body-For-Life by KlausBreuer · · Score: 1

    Well, some time ago I weighted in at 115 kg. That's a *lot*, and I was not happy.
    I found a nice trainig idea at http://bodyforlife.com/ - while I did buy the book, I found this not to be necessary: you can find all required data at the site. And no, there's no need to buy their advertised food-stuff.

    Now I'm at 92 kg, and feel much better. And yes, it did go rather quickly. And I'm certain I'll reach my aim of 80 kg, even if it'll take some time yet.

    Yes, you probably need a Gym, although you might find enough info on the net to do your muscle training at home, perhaps with just a few dumbbells.
    If you worry about being in a Gym, it's easy: use a walkman, set it to relatively noisy, do your training, ignore everybody. Simple ;)

    Here's what I do:

    * Monday: Upper body muscle training.
    * Tuesday: Cardio (20 minutes, spike-form)
    * Wednesday: Lower body muscle training
    * Thursday: Cardio (fast walk for 68 minutes at 5.0 km/h and 15 to burn 1000 kcal)
    * Friday: Upper body muscle training

    Would be good to do some cardio on Saturday, but I usually don't get around to it.

    Some basic points about muscle training:
    * The BFL program is pretty good. You do a set of 12 movements, wait 60 seconds, do a set of 10 (with more weights), then 8 (more weight), then 6 (max weight), then 2x12 (less weight, but without any pause between them). The idea is to see your muscles fail on the second set of 12, no matter how hard you try. Yes, do this as hard as you can, curse at your muscles, try for juuuust one more... it really helps.
    * Perfection is if you can upgrade the weights on one of these movements every time.
    * Give your muscles an entire day to recover. Do not do the same training two days in a row, it's pretty useless as the muscles need some peace and quiet to grow.
    * Training is hard: you train to the absolute limit of your muscle capability. This is the best way of making sure your muscles feel the need to grow. Because:
    * Your body hates muscles. They are expensive to build up, and they are expensive to maintain, as a kilo of muscles consumes about 100 kcal per day, even if it doesn't move at all.

    Cardio:
    * Spiked Cardio is nice, too. You start at a low level (imagine level 0 being in bed in the morning, and level 10 running away from a pack of wolves), slowly grow each minute, reach a spike, drop down to relax, and build up again. The whole thing takes about 20 minutes, which each level running for 60s. The levels look like this:
    6 6 6 7 8 9 6 7 8 9 6 7 8 9 6 7 8 9 10 6
    * You can use any form of cardio for this (running, swimming, skating, rowing, etc), but I prefere the Crosstrainer. Nice.
    * The long cardio is useful for flushing your body, loosing a lot of kcal in the process. It's not too hard (my heartbeat being in the high 150s), and I view a nice (short) movie while a walk fast.

    Food:
    * I use low fat stuff, and avoid anything white (bread, potatoes, cheese, milk, etc).
    * Eat 4-5 times per day, about a handful of meat and a handful of greenery each time. Concentrate on proteins (meat).
    * Fish are good, turkey breast, Bananas, Apples... (check the BFL site for full details).
    Ü The amount of kcal you need per day varies (they have a calculator). I need 1800, thus this is what I eat every day - don't eat too little.
    * Sunday is your Free Day - eat what you want. Choclate, Pizza, Ice Cream - no problem. Yes, yes, you'll overdo it the first time. And the second. But you'll learn to limit yourself and not eat too much, and then it works very well.
    * If you see a nice munchy choclate bar in a shop - no need to think "Aaaarghm I'm not allowed!". Think: "Heeey, only two days until Sunday, then I can eat it!". Don't buy it yet, though - wait till Sunday (or Saturday afternoon in case the shop would be closed).

    Good luck!

    Ciao,
    Klaus

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  659. Heart Rate Monitors by jimbolauski · · Score: 1

    You will have a new toy and when exercising you can keep your heart rate up there by maximizing you results. 100 bpm for beginners is a good target rate regardless of what your doing the most important thing is to keep it around 100 bpm for an hour. Once you in better shape interval training works wonders 150bpm for short periods and recovery until your rate is at 100bpm again repeat for a half hour with 15 min warm up and cool down. Interval training will give you more of the prolonged BRM increase you would get with weight training, which you still need to do.

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    P= W/t
    t=Money
    Money = Work/Knowledge so the less you know the more you make
  660. buy a rowing machine by e1618978 · · Score: 1

    Get a concept II rowing machine - it hits most of your muscle groups while giving you an aerobic workout at the same time, and it folds up against the wall while not in use. http://www.concept2.com/us/default.asp [I'm not affiliated with the company]

  661. Mistyped? by yabos · · Score: 1

    I think you might have mistyped?
    "Strength training destroys muscle mass: your body spends extra energy for days after the session is over rebuilding the damaged tissue."

    Actually it's the opposite but since you seem to know that already I am assuming you made a typo? I've done the same thing as you but starting BF % was lower I think around 20-22%.

    1. Re:Mistyped? by Daengbo · · Score: 2, Informative

      Not a typo. I think I just wasn't clear enough.

      Strength training does destroy muscle mass every time you lift to complete failure. Your body just rebuilds the lost stuff and adds some for good measure. This is why you're sore and need recovery time. It's also why you use a hell of a lot of calories when you lift weights -- most of the calories are spent after the training is over.

    2. Re:Mistyped? by yabos · · Score: 1

      OK, yes I see what you are saying. I have never heard anyone say muscle is destroyed and actually lost for any significant period of time. Actually from what I've read it's just damaged and not lost. Repairing the damage usually results in stronger fibers and new muscle cells created.

    3. Re:Mistyped? by somersault · · Score: 1

      Why would the tissue need to be rebuilt if it wasn't destroyed in the first place? While strength training will build up muscle mass over time, I think he meant that while you're actually doing the exercise you are damaging the muscles, and then they get rebuilt stronger over the next few days (hence why it's best to work different muscle groups on different days).

      As for me, I have a pretty decent metabolism anyway, I've always been able to eat plenty and not get too fat, but since I got banned from driving a couple of months ago I've been walking to work and back each day (total of about an hour and 20 minutes walking each day, some of it on about a 10-15 degree gradient). I noticed I was slimming down slightly anyway and feeling healthier, so I've tried to combine that with eating more healthily too. I found that when I eat less it's a bit easier to get up in the mornings (though that only works to an extent - if I eat hardly anything at all I end up shattered the next day because I have no energy). My weight hasn't really changed but my waist is slimming down.

      I do weights occasionally, and am doing ab crunches every couple of days at the moment. For once in my life I'd like to have a six pack just to prove to myself that I can do it :p Once I get there I'll have more incentive to keep eating well as well, as after driving to work for the last 3 years and not really getting any exercise my face and stomach were starting to get slightly more rounded, though I couldn't really be called 'fat' by anything but an anorexic's standard.. now I'm back to the way I was when I was still at University and walked everywhere.

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      which is totally what she said
    4. Re:Mistyped? by yabos · · Score: 1

      To me, saying destroyed implies muscle cell death. From all I've read the muscle fibers are damaged through microtears but I don't think there is any large cell death or muscle atrophy which is what I thought he meant.

      FYI, doing hundreds of situps won't get you a six pack. You can't reduce fat in one specific area of your body. The only way to get a 6 pack is to reduce overall fat on your entire body.

    5. Re:Mistyped? by somersault · · Score: 1

      Yep it wasn't a great choice of words on his part, I was just trying to point out what he probably meant.

      FYI, doing hundreds of situps won't get you a six pack. You can't reduce fat in one specific area of your body. The only way to get a 6 pack is to reduce overall fat on your entire body.

      Ya, I read that recently and have been cutting down on how much I'm eating (now that I know the rough level of calories I should aim for it's easier to have some will power and make better choices on what to eat). I have a friend who was quite into his bodybuilding for a while, he couldn't get a six-pack either despite bulking up a lot.

      I'm varying from a one pack to a noticeable 4 pack depending on things like how much I've eaten/drunk (even drinking a cup or two of water seems to make a bit of difference), and whether I've been exercising recently - still have a bit of fat to burn methinks!

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      which is totally what she said
    6. Re:Mistyped? by yabos · · Score: 1

      6 pack is pretty tough to get for me as well. You have to get 10% or less bodyfat to really see them all.

    7. Re:Mistyped? by somersault · · Score: 1

      Is there a way to judge your own bodyfat percentage or do you really need to see a professional for that?

      I just went on holiday to France for a week, and even though I thought I was eating more than usual, but I'm actually 4 or 5 pounds lighter than I was a couple of weeks ago! It could just be something like water weight though, as it's a lot warmer in France.

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      which is totally what she said
    8. Re:Mistyped? by yabos · · Score: 1

      You can get fat calipers but it's better to have someone that knows how to use them to measure you. You take a 5 or 7 point measurement and plug them into an equation. There's also hydrostatic BF measurement where you go in a water tank. That is the most accurate. You can buy cheap plastic Accu-Measure off of ebay but they are pretty worthless IMO. I have one and it's not very accurate at all.

      Your losing weight could be water weigh but 4-5 lbs is reasonable fat loss in 4 weeks if you're trying for it. It could be mostly the change in diet especially if the food in France is lower in sodium. Typically American food is high in sodium. The last time I ate fake Chinese food I gained 10 lbs of water weight by the next day! The food was incredibly salty and my weight dropped back down within a few days. Keep in mind that I am only 160lbs so this is a big percent increase in body weight compared to if I was 250 or something.

    9. Re:Mistyped? by somersault · · Score: 1

      Well yeah, I just found it strange because I was having more alcohol and snacks than usual (I live in the UK btw, not the US) but I seem to have lost more weight. A friend just pointed out that red wine can help with digestion so that could have made a difference, or perhaps having a more constant stream of food meant my metabolism was going at a higher rate. I have a pretty good metabolism anyway. I certainly was eating different food though, a lot more bread based. When I'm at home I tend to have chinese meals quite a lot, so I will regularly have a lot of sodium in me!

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      which is totally what she said
  662. Running by DorkRawk · · Score: 1

    I love my gadgets as much as the next geek, but it's nice to rely on nothing but a solid pair or shoes and an old pair of shorts. I can't buy or upgrade myself into being faster or running further, it's just me and the road.
    It's a good way to balance out all the use of technology in my life.

  663. Re:Technical explanation; didn't rtfa. by yabos · · Score: 1

    I do both weights for 1 hr and cardio right after for 30-40 mins. Not doing cardio didn't work for me for cutting fat down. Doing the cardio does one good thing which is it creates a demand for glucose that must be filled either from your liver storage of glycogen or your next meal. That means that when you eat next you are going to have a lot more of the carbs you eat go to your muscles rather than to your fat cells.

  664. Biking is dull by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Do Kung Fu =) Aerobic, and amusing to practice. If you need a boost to calorie burning, spar. I guess caloric burn rate of boxing/kickboxing is probably the closest measure you'll find.

    Also if you find a decent teacher, you might something useful.

  665. CrossFit by yurnotme · · Score: 1

    Http://www.CrossFit.com I found this in January, workouts take 20-30 minutes.

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    "It's only work is somebody makes you do it." --Calvin, Calvin & Hobbes
  666. Foo are useless by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Lifting weights is useless. There are never any barbells in a real fight.

    Football practice is useless. There are never any automobile tires on the field during a real game.

    Practicing scales and arpeggios are useless. My band doesn't do Hanon or Czerny covers.

    Sarcastic analogies are useless. Real idiots aren't receptive to them.

  667. Nothing by L0rdJedi · · Score: 1

    Before I started biking to work I did...nothing. I've been the same weight since I graduated high school 15 years ago. I do pretty much the same things now that I did back then with the exception of chasing a 20 month old around now.

    I don't eat a lot of junk like candy, doughnuts, candybars, or any other crap like that. I eat some, but I don't eat it all day. Other than that, I eat pretty healthy meals.

    Now that I ride a bike to work I still weigh what I did before I started, I'm just in better shape (my legs are anyway).

    If you're having trouble keeping weight off, check your diet and your exercise. It looks like you're already exercising a bit, so you probably need to take a closer look at what you're eating.

  668. GI not everything by yabos · · Score: 1

    The GI for watermelon is very high but that does not really matter because the amount of sugar you get from a regular sized portion is not much. Even a small slice of watermelon once per day isn't going to do anything to your blood sugar levels if eaten with other foods such as meat or lower GI carbs. The most important thing is glycemic load which has an effect on how much insulin is released. Insulin also causes fat cells to take up glucose not just muscle so the more carbs you eat the more insulin is needed to get rid of it.

    Also there's no reason to limit carbs too much on workout days because this can ultimately affect your performance and ability to work out harder. If anything at least have one higher carb meal before your workout but not too much as to be counter productive. This may take some experimenting but you will find that overall you are going to be better off. If you don't have any energy for your workout you're going to be lifting less weight for less reps.

    1. Re:GI not everything by c0p0n · · Score: 1
      Fair point, but who can eat just a tiny bit of melon if it's a good one? I certainly can't, I need to shove the whole thing down my throat :P My point is to balance your diet in such a way that you're never hungry and never depleted of energy until bed time, yet losing weight and increasing strength.

      As with everything you do need to experiment with your diet and workout to find what works and what doesn't. At the moment I've got both things fairly tight, but it took me about a month to get it right - any changes at the beginning will make you feel weird and you can't measure properly any success.

      there's no reason to limit carbs too much on workout days because this can ultimately affect your performance and ability to work out harder.

      You're right, that's why you need to devise a plan that works for you. I find useful this type of workout/carbs routine:

      * Exercise mon-tue-thurs-fri (weekend & wed off, maybe a light 15m run on sun morning if I'm still alive after sat night).
      * Low carb on mon-tue, medium carb on wed, no carbs on thurs-fri, higher carbs during weekend.
      * Mountains of salad, veg & fruit throughout all week long, most protein taken mon-fri. But what works for me may not work for you, different metabolisms and such. It definitely needs experimenting until you get a routine you feel comfortable doing while getting results.

      Now, I'm still losing body fat, I will need to change both my workout & diet once I hit my target, but this is geared towards feeling good and losing fat (not necessarily weight).

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    2. Re:GI not everything by aliquis · · Score: 1

      I've tried to get him on the right path with GI as well, we'll see if it catch, I doubt it...

      Insulin is very anabolic and some proteins raises insulin levels as well.
      And the insulin will still rise for a low GI food of course but slower / remain longer. In any case there are no proof for kind of any health benefit of eating low GI food.

      What you eat in the meal before working out won't affect things so much since it may be to late to refill your glucogen storages anyway. What matters is more all the meals you have made since the last workout. And glucogen storage is more efficient after workout and the muscles don't need insulin to pick up nutrition at this time so it's much better to eat the carbohydrate rich meal after his workout than in the meal before.

    3. Re:GI not everything by c0p0n · · Score: 1

      In any case there are no proof for kind of any health benefit of eating low GI food.

      The health benefits are by default, that is, there are no health benefits on eating low GI foods, but there are adverse health defects when eating large amounts of high GI foods. High GI foods will make your blood sugar levels to go through the roof and sink down very quickly, thus releasing or withdrawing insulin from your system as needed. If you grossly overdo this (as does any lardo that likes the cake), it is very likely to end up in type 2 diabetes. This also causes you to be peckish or plain hungry suddenly and frequently, thus encouraging you to over eat.

      Lower GI foods with the same amount of calories will release into your system slower. You still get the same energy, but you don't get the huge spikes of glucose and the negative effects described earlier.

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    4. Re:GI not everything by yabos · · Score: 1

      Yes, interestingly enough whey protein also has an insulin response. Insulin is EXTREMELY anabolic but has side effects if abused such as type 2 diabetes. There is a reason pro bodybuilders shoot up extra insulin. My preworkout meal always consists of a whey protein shake + oats + blueberries or some other fruit. No doubt there is some large insulin response as it's about 50g+ carbs depending on the type of workout but since I'm working out right after this is actually a good thing.

    5. Re:GI not everything by aliquis · · Score: 1

      The health benefits are by default, that is, there are no health benefits on eating low GI foods, but there are adverse health defects when eating large amounts of high GI foods.

      Feel free to show me ONE study which have came to that conclusion.
      If it's still this "common sense" bullshit then just stfu.

      it is very likely to end up in type 2 diabetes.

      Thanks, finally a word which I could use to back up my claims:
      http://kolozzeum.com/kolozzeum/showpost.php?p=1198473&postcount=1
      "We studied the association of digestible carbohydrates, fiber intake, glycemic index, and glycemic load with insulin sensitivity (SI), fasting insulin, acute insulin response (AIR), disposition index, BMI, and waist circumference.

      Data on 979 adults with normal (67%) and impaired (33%) glucose tolerance... were analyzed.

      No association was observed between glycemic index and SI, fasting insulin, AIR, disposition index, BMI, or waist circumference after adjustment for demographic characteristics or family history of diabetes, energy expenditure, and smoking." Diabetes Care 28:2832-2838, 2005, Dietary Glycemic Index and Glycemic Load, Carbohydrate and Fiber Intake, and Measures of Insulin Sensitivity, Secretion, and Adiposity in the Insulin Resistance Atherosclerosis Study

      "Reducing the dietary glycemic load and the glycemic index was proposed as a novel approach to weight reduction. A parallel-design, randomized 12-wk controlled feeding trial with a 24-wk follow-up phase was conducted to test the hypothesis that a hypocaloric diet designed to reduce the glycemic load and the glycemic index would result in greater sustained weight loss than other hypocaloric diets.

      At 12 wk, weight changes from baseline were significant in all groups but not different among groups (-9.3 +/- 1.3 kg for the HGI diet, -9.9 +/- 1.4 kg for the LGI diet, and -8.4 +/- 1.5 kg for the HF diet). All groups improved in insulin sensitivity at the end of the feeding phase of the study. During the free-living phase, all groups maintained their initial weight loss and their improved insulin sensitivity.

      Weight loss and improved insulin sensitivity scores were independent of diet composition.

      In summary, lowering the glycemic load and glycemic index of weight reduction diets does not provide any added benefit to energy restriction in promoting weight loss in obese subjects." J Nutr. 2005 Oct;135(10):2387-91. Reduced glycemic index and glycemic load diets do not increase the effects of energy restriction on weight loss and insulin sensitivity in obese men and women.

      "High glycemic index (GI)/load (GL) diets reportedly enhance appetite and promote positive energy balance. Support for this hypothesis stems largely from acute feeding trials and longer-term studies lacking control over the macronutrient composition and palatability of test foods. This study evaluated the effects of consuming high- and low-GI/GL meals, matched on macronutrient composition and palatability, plasma glucose and insulin, appetite, and food intake.

      Thirty-nine healthy adults consumed only low- or only high-GI foods ad libitum in the laboratory for 8 days in either high (three foods per meal)- or low (one food per meal)-variety conditions. Glucose and insulin concentrations as well as appetitive sensations were determined before and for 2 h following breakfast and lunch on days 1 and 8. Energy intake was monitored daily.

      There were no significant differences in plasma glucose or insulin responses, appetitive ratings, or food intake between treatments.

      These data indicate that the differential glycemic response of foods tested in isolation under fixed time are not preserved under conditions of chronic ad libitum consumption of mixed meals." Diabetes Care. 2005 Sep;28(9):2123-9. Influence o

  669. try boxing by Khashishi · · Score: 1

    or some other fighting sport

    1. Re:try boxing by JustNiz · · Score: 1

      yeah it will do wonders to the organ most necessary to people working in IT.

      http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2006/09/060915204035.htm

    2. Re:try boxing by dissolved · · Score: 1

      training for boxing isn't the same as competing professionally (i.e. without a headguard).

      the actual training for boxing is a superb way to lose weight. Following a boxer's regime without the end result being getting in the ring with someone and you can't lose. It's a mix of: Good diet, running (or "roadwork" as it's termed in the sport for some reason), weights, co-ordination training (skipping), core strength (crunches, pressups, the plank) and bagwork/sparring which will increase your reflexes.

      Don't just say no because of what happens at the very highest level - that's like not taking your driving test because of what happened to Ayrton Senna.

  670. Try this... by hoppo · · Score: 1

    Jog in place while you masturbate. It'll take you longer to finish, so you should get a good 20-30 minute workout. Plus, the payoff at the end will be awesome.

  671. The music's not great but, by elex · · Score: 1

    Dance Dance Revolution!

  672. Play Paintball! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Real geeks play paintball! http://www.paintballgeex.com Put your gaming skills to use and hit the local paintball field for a great and fun workout!

  673. Re:Technical explanation; didn't rtfa. by torkus · · Score: 1

    You're mixing two separate things - weight gain/loss and calorie intake/usage. They're linked, but not the same.

    Regular weight training builds muscle mass assuming you eat properly. If you don't eat properly you can potentially LOSE muscle mass instead of fat mass which is even worse (especially from a 'visual' perspective).

    However muscle weighs more than fat...so you potentially eat MORE food and GAIN weight (or at least maintain) while still achieving the goal (assuming it is) of looking thinner and less fatty, more muscled, and overall being in better shape.

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  674. Aerobic exercise by Don+Philip · · Score: 1
    I've had much the same dilemma over the years. What worked for me was combining diet with exercise. Formerly, I used a treadmill, and did about 2 miles a day on it. Because of knee problems, I have given up the treadmill and bought an elliptical trainer, which has been working well for me.

    If you decide on an elliptical trainer, make sure you try a few out. They are designed for different stride lengths, and it makes quite a difference how they feel for you, and how pleasant the experience is. The correct stride length makes quite a difference.

  675. Make it a project by jhfry · · Score: 1

    I thought about using a stationary bike as a generator and using it to power my TV or computer... that way if I want to use either one I would be forced to exercise. And it would be a fun project to actually implement.

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  676. Re:Technical explanation; didn't rtfa. by tobiasly · · Score: 1

    To specifically address the question posed...

    You must be new here.

    Now, if you don't mind, can we please get back to our tangential side conversation? It hasn't yet devolved into an all-out flamewar between the Aerobic Nazis vs. the Weightlifting Trolls.

  677. Not enough exercise... by bryce4president · · Score: 1

    You aren't doing enough exercise. 60 press ups (push ups??) is ok, but doesn't really target your waist line. 30 situps... if you are doing them everyday isn't going to do very much after a short time. You need to be increasing your numbers. You need to focus on improvement. If you can do 30 situps, try 2 sets of them. Then try 3 sets. Once you can do 3 sets of 30 sit ups increase to 40 sit ups or 50. Eventually you may have to do resistance exercises such as doing them while holding a medicine ball.

    You need to be constantly pushing the envelope until you get to your target. Once there, you can stay at a constant routine. If what you are doing isn't working, then you need to push yourself to do a little bit more.

    Cardio workouts are a great way to trim the mid section as well. Running, biking, speed walking, and swimming are all great for this. You need to be getting your heart rate up to about 120 beats per minute (to start, higher as you get more in shape).

    If you really don't want to exercise in front of people then get a stationary bike or a treadmill, or an elliptical machine.

    Don't forget diet as well. You may not be over eating but what you are eating may not be all that healthy. When good diet and exercise are combined you will get great results.

  678. Keeping fit for decades is harder than you think by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Most of the geeks I know that stay fit into their 40s are into some sport and have been all their lives. They can almost always say "I am a [cyclist|runner|martial artist|walker|climber|surfer|mountain biker|triathlete|whatever]". The difference is that defining a part of your life outside geekdom and being a bit obsessive about it means that you can exercise every week for your whole life. Plus you can be pretty geeky about the sport if you pick something interesting.

    The alternative is wasted money every month to a gym you rarely use, expensive exercise kit gathering dust in your garage and a real problem keeping the calories burning off.

    My personal experience has been that rock climbing obsessively in my 20s got me very fit and strong. Life changes, jobs, marriage, kids - so I've added things that fit in better while still climbing. So now I snowboard, surf (badly), swim/cycle/run (I'd like to be a triathlete but its my new challenge for my 40s and a real work in progress).

    And that final statement hits me the hardest - to stand still with my weight I have to do more every year - but in a way that's the fun part.

  679. How Do Geeks Exercise? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Jacking off, mostly.

  680. Horseback riding and yoga ball by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Coworkers looked at me strangely when I mentioned horseback riding as exercise. When I shaved off 30lbs in 6 months though they didn't think it was so strange.

    I went to a horseback riding clinic where they mentioned replacing your desk chair with a yoga ball for those of us that are office workers. It forces good posture and while it is not an extreme workout, it immensely helps balance and muscle tone.

  681. Why not find a sport to play? by SolarStorm · · Score: 1

    The discussion I have been reading is all about work outs? I personally cant stand a work out! However, why not take up squash ladder, join a soccer team? I started riding motocross (yes I am a programmer) I was 5' 10" 205 lb, 47 year old. twice a week I ride hard (dripping sweat hard). Now I am at 182, and having a ton of fun. I have found that most adult "fun" sports are very accepting to new members. Its what keeps their "club" going. The other thing a team will do, is put pressure on you to attend as you have made a commitment to the team as well as yourself. There is also the benefit of the social aspect of the requesite beer after said event.

  682. Josh Barnett Exercises by Mr.+Beatdown · · Score: 1

    I know of one geek who exercises well(I know it's MySpace, but he's not a computer geek).

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  683. Some ideas by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I don't think being introverted has particularly much to do with spending all your time inside - I think that's probably an issue you should deal with though. I'd suggest starting with small steps - and making time for yourself.

    As far as getting in shape, you should really try to be open about going outside - there are plenty of fun things you can do out there to burn weight quickly, that don't involve being around groups of people. Some ideas:

    Outside:
      Kayaking, hiking - you can do these for hours on end, and you'll get nicely defined legs and shoulders. If you're up for it mountain biking or road biking is an awesome cardio workout.
    I always used to find playing basketball - even just shooting hoops was excellent for loosing weight.
    Rock climbing is phenominal for losing weight (and encouraging you to lose weight) and building lean strength, and the people in this sport tend to be really inclusive and easy going.

    Inside:
      Yoga or pilates can be a great way to work on both strength and cardio (depending on the style). It's great to pair up with another sport to give you a good balance of flexibility and overall strength.

    I'd really recommend getting a trainer - a little resistance wheel you stick on the back of a bicycle. They can be had for cheap, and they can turn almost any bike into a great stationary bike. You can spin at a nice lowish cadence for hours while watching movies and burn amazing amounts of calories. You can even read ebooks or listen to podcasts while doing this. Then you're nice and strong if you decide to go for a ride outside.

    Lastly you could go to a gym, not really my taste, but they have a lot of equipment that's hard to replicate in a home environment. If you do opt to build a home gym, be sure to buy used equipment - every spring the used market is flooded with equipment from people that bought it and never used it.

    I'd start ramping up slowly - no need to burn out by going too gung ho.

    Good luck!

  684. Forget exercise, fix your diet by Spinlock_1977 · · Score: 1

    It's my personal opinion (and direct experience) that if you have to exercise to stay thin, there's crap in your diet that's making you gain weight. I used to be 230 pounds, now I'm 185 (which is about right for my height). The only exercise I get is 11 minutes of weight lifting (arms & legs only) twice a week. This I do for vanity only. But diet? That's where the magic is. Remove all man-made food from your diet, return to raw fruits & veggies & nuts & berries, cook 'em sometimes if you have to, cook your own meat, and avoid, to the greatest possible extent, anything that went through a manufacturing plant (you can tell because this stuff comes in boxes and cans). And keep this in mind: Almost anything you eat in a typical restaurant these days went through a manufacturing plant and arrived on a freezer truck.

    With this incredibly restrictive diet (which consists of the stuff humanoids have been eating for hundreds of thousands of years, rather than the chemicals and such invented in the last 100 years), your body will return to the weight it naturally prefers. http://darwinshealth.blogspot.com/

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  685. Wow! I love these guys! I really do! by Fantastic+Lad · · Score: 1

    1300+ comments and 99.9% of them revealing and encouraging. We've collectively put a MOUNTAIN of thought into personal health. Our bodies get a lot of focus. --The medium is the message, eh? Says a ton about our society.

    You can pull a Veidt, (Watchmen) and just skim over this vast field of posts and within a few minutes know pretty much every solution there is when it comes to balancing a sit-all-the-time job with trying to keep the body healthy.

    I might as well pitch in with my own little story, since the motivation to share IS almost overwhelming. (People put so much thought into this and are so rarely asked what their solutions are).

    1. An Interesting Observation Everybody has a different body, but in the geek world, there's a big generalization one can make; we're either tall, skinny guys, or we're tubs. Don't really know why that is, but that genetic skew seems to be a fact. I'm a tall skinny guy, perhaps this post will be useful for two-thirds of anybody skimming over this.

    2. Quality and Quantity. By Default. Being just this side of some sort of condition other people get drugged for but which I've been lucky enough to be able to live around, I tend to get so into whatever it is I'm working on that I forget to eat. Hunger becomes just this annoying thing which I'll deal with after I tinker with this one line I'm working on for just ten more minutes. . . Eventually the stomach stops complaining. So long as you don't spend a lot of time in this state, (you'll make yourself sick if you do. I know.), and when you do eat, go out of your way to eat the good stuff, so that when you do eat the junk it doesn't tend to cause a problem. --As for the Good Stuff, nutrition-wise, that whole "Listen to your body" thing really, really works, I find. If people quiet down long enough to hear the internal cues, and if they bind that with some basic nutritional research, then 95% of the grocery store becomes off-limits, as do fast-food joints and the like. I live in a city with a LOT of fat people who are fat as a direct result of their diet and because they are simply not paying attention. The body doesn't want to feel bad, and so if you only eat that which makes your body feel better after having eaten it, then you're a long way to where most people want to be.

    3. Exercise. I happen to own a bike instead of a car, and so when I need to get anywhere, I'm stressing the body in a good way by necessity. In the Winter, I'm on foot. Beyond that, when I'm feeling a little too thin upper body-wise, I might do some push-ups or exercises of some sort, but that's only for aesthetic reasons which I soon give up on. Girls seem to find me attractive enough, so I figure as long as I'm happy and healthy enough to experience life however I need to, then why waste time?

    Okay. That's my two-cents. Thanks to everybody for sharing! These kinds of questions remind me of the Big Common Connection. Despite my sometimes-grumbling, I really do think you're all pretty awesome!

    -FL

  686. No more energy drinks + portion size + GPS hiking by gtada · · Score: 1

    IANA dietitian but from my own experience a geek lifestyle coupled with a steady diet of energy drinks is not a good thing. The amount of sugar alone should steer you away.

    I think eating proper portions is something to consider. Since I sit in front of a screen all day and burn few calories, I try to eat smaller portions but savor every bite. One thing to consider: if I'm going to eat less, I want to eat better tasting food as well. So, I downloaded a cookbook and started learning how to be a better cook. I'm turning into a food geek.

    Finally, 30 minutes of exercise is all you need. I do pushups, pullups, and situps while I watch TV. I got a GPS and started exploring every trail I could find. I intend to do a GPS + Google Maps mashup eventually; that should be geeky enough for me.

  687. Yogurbation! by pr0nitor · · Score: 1

    Yoga for 1 hour, then Masturbation with Pr0nimation for 3 hours, rest and shower, repeat.

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  688. martial arts wiki by brones · · Score: 1

    You say you already do push-ups and sit-ups. sounds like you just need to add a few more exercises to your routine plus some cardio. I like to do martial arts after sitting at my pc all day and it's a really great workout. I will go to the dojo because it helps me to be consistent and the instructors push you further. Sounds like this is not what you are interested in. However, martial arts have produced some of the fittest people in the world... For home training I recommend checking out http://www.akban.org/fitness/ There you can find exercises to round out your routine and also cool self defense techniques.

  689. Since the first post/thread are so shitty by aliquis · · Score: 1

    Got a PL-bar, squat rack, bench and eventually some dumbells.

    Use the, done.

    The first thread got so high focus on what to eat from retards who have no clue.

  690. Re:Technical explanation; didn't rtfa. by Orange+Crush · · Score: 1

    Actually weight training doesn't lead to more muscle cells. You end up with the same number you started with, they just get a lot bigger. They're multi-nucleated cells, and will add more nuclei, mitochondria and other organelles as needed.

  691. Obligatory Morecambe and Wise reference: by Larry+Lightbulb · · Score: 1

    Two old men were sitting in the park, one said "it's nice out", the other said "in that case I'll get mine out".

  692. Heavy weights by Tweekster · · Score: 1

    Olympic barbell, sandbags, kettlebells, treadmill, chinup bar, exercise bike, jump rope

    Seriously just because you are a geek doesn't mean you can't have muscle.

    Forget the bowflex or other machines. Just get a pile of weights, some dumbbell handles and a bar and go nuts.

    A lot of the posts here seem to have a lot of ways of avoiding any real exercise.

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  693. Actually... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    One of the symptoms of ODing on energy drinks is weight loss.

  694. Try this workout by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There's a decent "deck of cards" workout that I use when I can't get to a gym. Combine that workout three times a week with a 30 minute run at 8 minute/mile pace nightly and you should be on your way to tone and weight loss. Kept the weight off even through the longest and most decadent business trips.

    The "deck" workout goes something like this:
    Each suit is a different exercise, and the card value is the number of repetitions, though certain exercises have a multiplier applied to the card value. Jacks are 11, Q-12, K-13, A-14. Exercises can be chosen from: unweighted squats (x5 mult.), regular pushups, diamond pushups, crunches (or whatever ab exercise you prefer) (x5), or pullups (if you have a bar). You shuffle the deck, and start flipping cards over, one by one and do that exercise. Easy, cheap, requires no equipment, and can be done in any room in which there is enough space to do a pushup!

  695. Tips by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    for indoor workout:

    1. Pushups, 3 different techniques plus one armed pushups.

    2. Tricep dips off the kitchen counter (in a corner)

    3. Situps & crunches. Not one or the other. Both. Every day. Squeeze!

    4. Dumbell curls. Don't swing, don't cheat. Use so much weight that you can barely do 8 reps.

    5. Squats (with dumbell held between legs using both hands).

    Okay that's enough to keep you busy. Back is missing, but your back is going to come into play during all of those exercises to keep your core stable. Especially during the pushups . Pick up a magazine or read online to find out the proper technique for the exercises. If you find a way to make the exercise less painless, you're probably cheating yourself. Make sure your technique is correct. Think about the physics and what the muscles are doing and which are involved. Also, make sure you're working to the point of discomfort. In fact, once discomfort sets in, you should do a few more reps. Push past that point. The goal is to do the exercise until your muscles physically can't do it anymore. Don't stop at any particular number or just because it hurts. That's not exercising. That's just wasting time. Sure you may burn a few calories, but you're not going to add any real improvement to your body. If you're not sweating at the end of your workout, you didn't push hard enough during your exercises. Even the concentration alone should cause you to sweat if you're working past the point of discomfort.

    Last tip. Don't waste hours and hours running around the neighborhood thinking you're doing a great service to your body. It's probably not what you need and there's a good chance you're doing as much harm as good.

  696. Treadmill + Computers = Exercise! by Sam_In_The_Hills · · Score: 1

    I can't have been the only person to have combined a treadmill, some lumber and drawer hardware, two computers and a Sega Genesis system in their basement?

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/26445696@N04/2717347744/

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  697. Try walking by blugras · · Score: 1

    I lost 40 pounds through a combination of a low carb diet (no bread, potatos, rice, pasta or sweets) and walking about 4 miles each workday. To make the walking more interesting I listen to an iPod filled with audio books from Audible. I used to get this exercise by walking to work, but now I live close to my workplace, so I take an hour off for an afternoon constitutional.

  698. Wii Fit by RemusX2 · · Score: 1

    Wii Fit. Man do I feel like an idiot playing it, but it does an OK job I suppose.

  699. Re:Technical explanation; didn't rtfa. by nuttycom · · Score: 1

    I think that it depends upon the type of strength training you're doing. Typical weight training is focused on building muscle mass and bulk rather than improving strength-to-weight ratio. Dynamic anaerobic training such as that in rock climbing or gymnastics, which require high strength-to-weight ratios, tends to build smaller but still lean and strong muscle mass.

    Basically, the body adapts to the type of activity. Since ordinary weight training doesn't impose a penalty for having a low strength-to-weight ratio, the body doesn't optimize appropriately for weight loss.

  700. Youseem to be exercising fine by geekoid · · Score: 1

    Now eat less, and walk.

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  701. Re:Technical explanation; didn't rtfa. by somersault · · Score: 1

    Swimming doesn't usually have much effect on weight for the same reason - it really wears you out so the tendency is to have a big meal afterwards. If you can control your hunger then it is good exercise though.

    I'd assume that swimming and other aerobic exercise is better for your heart than pure weight training as well? I find it pretty easy to do weights, but my lungs suck (no pun intended). I used to have an inhaler for asthma when I was a kid, and I still have hay fever. I lost to a fat chick on a 200metre race at school! When I was at university I started doing a bit of jogging at the gym and managed to build myself up so that I could jog/run for 20minutes without stopping, but at the moment I could probably only manage 2 or 3 minutes of jogging at a time depending on how warm it is (cold air is better as it has more oxygen).

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  702. Bikram Yoga by Meor · · Score: 1

    Best exercise I've ever done.

  703. Bicycle & Billy Boot Camp by jaguth · · Score: 0

    Bicycle & Billy Boot Camp, thats what i do.

  704. Eat Better by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You say you're trying to lose weight (your primary goal) and that you don't eat "a lot"; possibly the food you're eating isn't the best?

        It sounds as if you're exercising regularly at least *some* way, so that's probably not the problem. Try eating foods with less fat, sugar, etc. While you're at it, try getting more fresh fruits/vegetables, eating only whole grain breads/pastas. Portions are significant too, but content is key.

  705. re: diets and caloric intake by King_TJ · · Score: 1

    Your comments are spot-on.... but I'd also add that the reasons most of these "diets" fail is precisely BECAUSE they're designed with being a "temporary measure" in mind.

    People follow these weird diets that encourage eating an abundance of a particular category or two of food, while shunning many others. Obviously, that's going to get BORING after so long, and the dieter is going to slip back out of that routine. (In some cases, it may even deprive them of a needed vitamin or mineral - forcing them to give it up.)

    Others offer well-balanced mixes of tasty food choices, but they encourage "laziness" on the part of the dieter, letting the company (Weight Watchers, Jenny Craig, etc.) do the calorie counting for them. Once they tire of spending that much of a price premium to purchase everything from them -- they usually again fall into eating patterns of taking in more calories.

    By the same token, there's considerable evidence that it's not even necessarily "bad" to be a little over the weight some chart claims is "ideal" for an individual. (Remember grandma's old thing about cleaning your plate, to stay healthy? Some studies show slightly overweight people get sick less often.)

    As long as you stay reasonably active and make healthy food choices (not too many trans-fats or processed sugars, etc.), it's probably both natural and "ok" to gain a little weight as you age.

  706. All food is not created equal by macurmudgeon · · Score: 2, Informative

    In the discussion of calories you might also consider what foods you are eating. Just over 30% of people have a glycemic responses that causes them to gain weight more quickly when eating foods high in sugar and simple carbohydrates. It's an insulin balance thing. The glycemic response is probably why the Atkins diet can be so successful for many people.

    I have to watch my pasta, bread and rice along with some fruit like bananas. Alcohol and soft drinks are high glycemic index foods and need to be taken in moderation.

  707. UPS and big boxes. by Krneki · · Score: 1

    UPS over 50kg, massive servers, old school 21' CRT monitors, ... The upper you go into the sysadmin stuff, heavier stuff you have to lift.

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  708. Surf (in the water) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I recently started surfing (you near the beach?) My wife wore her heart rate monitor last time and in 1 hour burned 600+ calories, about the same as our normal jog loop. Plus you don't get sweaty in New England waters.

  709. Re:Get out. Have some fun. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    >When you find an activity that you actually enjoy, it'll cease to be a tiresome workout and will simply be a fun thing that you do.

    I can vouch for that.

    I hit 260 a few months ago and said enough was enough. I had a bike (old, but it worked) and decided it was time to use it. after a couple months, I'm down 11-ish pounds and all is going well. Every now and again (maybe once or twice a week) I'll be at work or watching tv or something and if I can, I'll just get up and go on a ride because I want to, not because I made myself do it (though I make myself ride nightly regardless).

    So yea! Find an activity that you could enjoy (indoors or out) and just do it. You'll feel better about yourself later and that in-and-of-itself will be enough encouragement to keep going.

  710. Anonymous Coward by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    (still waiting for new account email...)

    Set up a treadmill desk!
    http://www.treadmill-desk.com/

  711. Re: Try something different? by colinnwn · · Score: 1

    There is a school of thought that believes if you short your body on calories more than a certain percent, your body goes into survival mode and burns anything it can but fat. Given your activity level, and assuming you are a male, have you tried upping your caloric intake into the 2000-2500 range to see if you start losing weight?

    Also do you have lots of extra skin or fat? Perhaps you need to speak with a plastic surgeon about removing some of your extra skin (but not liposuction). Skin can weigh a lot and has a limited ability to contract after being expanded greatly.

    On a more general note, you had this routine for years and not got the result you wanted? Have you tried changing it up in any way? What is that saying, "Insanity is continuing to do the same thing and expecting different results"?

  712. Various exercises by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Juujutsu

    Massage (giving, preferably to someone with severe muscular distress)

    Dance (many different sorts)

    Yoga

    Or one I used to do - Juggle while I was on the computer, whenever there was a point of lag.

  713. Re:Technical explanation; didn't rtfa. by gnick · · Score: 1

    ...without gaining a fraction of an inch around my waste line...

    I don't know whether that typo was intentional or not.

    I just know that I like it.

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  714. try yoga by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Seriously -- and yes, I am male. Combine it with biking to work and you're set. Get some yoga DVDs if you really don't want to go to a class, but a class will be much more beneficial. Try a couple of different teachers if the first one or two doesn't work for you. For an introvert the non-competitive aspect of a yoga class will be way more comfortable. Anyone who says yoga isn't good exercise hasn't done it.

  715. parableMH by parableMH · · Score: 1

    I have my notebook mounted on my treadmill. Every night after my toddler goes to bed I game while walking for an hour or two. It's set for a 5 degree incline and 1.5 MPH. It doesn't affect my playing abilities and I burn a lot of calories. Also, my heart rate doesn't get so high as to affect getting to sleep afterward. As a bonus, if I want to play more (for those long WoW raids) I burn more calories!

  716. Re:Tai Chi by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Astanga (or Ashtanga) yoga, while embarrassing to admit the practice of, will result in literally drips of sweat landing on the floor after five or six minutes, and is pretty good for raising your metabolism. You have to combine it with some hypertrophy (muscle mass building) work though, or you will be a total girl.

  717. Treadmill with flat-panel monitor and keyboard by geronimo1000 · · Score: 1

    I built a monitor stand and keyboard tray for my treadmill so I can burn calories while surfing slashdot. It's somewhat similar to this: http://www.apartmenttherapy.com/ol-images/la/uploads/10_07walkstation.jpg

  718. Diet, Diet, Diet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you want to loose the extra weight, you've got to change your diet. Resistance training while your dieting helps preserve your muscle mass while you are in a calorie deficit. Without a diet change, it is really hard to out train a bad diet. Most people think that they are eating healthy, but when they do a food log, they are sorely suprised.

  719. Im a marathon runner by peter303 · · Score: 1

    Vary concentrated, efficient exercise.

  720. Eat less. Move more. by optikos · · Score: 1

    The complete answer: Eat less. Move more.

  721. Re:Technical explanation; didn't rtfa. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    unzip; strip; touch; finger; mount; fsck; more; yes; unmount; sleep

    I really like your sig, but shouldn't it be umount?

  722. Re:Technical explanation; didn't rtfa. by zubillaga · · Score: 2, Funny

    Bottom line:

    • Get in a gym 3-4 times a week and lift until you throw up. Use a full-body workout if you can.
    • Bike to/from work.
    • Don't quit.

    You forgot something:

    • Profit!!!

    There, fixed it for ya.

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  723. Crossfit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Try Crossfit. Or do a lot of burpees!

    You could also try doing 5 press-ups, 10 sit-ups, 15 squats continuously for 15-20 minutes. Ideally you can do at least one cycle per minute.

  724. American Heart Association says "don't bother" by AlejoHausner · · Score: 1
    Just to stoke the fire, I want to point to a joint official position statement from the American Heart Association and the American College of Sports Medicine. It's online at their website: go here (I got this via an article by Gary Taubes).

    Once you've got the PDF, go to page 7 of the document (page 1087 in the printed journal). Right hand column, second paragraph reads:

    It is reasonable to assume that persons with relatively high daily energy expenditures would be less likely to gain weight over time, compared with those who have low energy expenditures. So far, data to support this hypothesis are not particularly compelling ...

    In other words, there are no good scientific studies that prove that exercise leads to weight loss.

    Of course, exercise is good for you. But it won't help you lose weight.

    So there. The big authorities (who surprisingly enough show scientific integrity) have said it.

  725. Go for a walk after lunch by Conficio · · Score: 1

    Walking, bike riding to work is some of the least intrusive exercise and it makes you work out regularly. You can even determine your distance by getting off the bust/train one station earlier than you usually would or using a parking lot farther from your office.

    And it has other benefits like being exposed to the elements once in a while, which strengthens your immune system.

    But my favorite is to go for a 20 min walk after lunch. It helps not only as exercise (although it might be to short to make much of a difference on weight). But it does help with not falling into the early after noon trap and you will be much more productive, making up for the "lost" 20 min.

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  726. Re:Get out. Have some fun. by zubillaga · · Score: 1

    Yes, running in a team sport is one of the best solutions for a geek, except when you don't like any sport.

    My solution?

    http://groups.google.com/group/soccerlunch/

    and in addition I usually join a Saturday pickup game plus get invited all the time to local leagues, and I play as time permits.

    Football ("soccer" for you gringos) is the best sport in the world! Oh and vi rules too.

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  727. Crossfit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Check out http://www.crossfit.com

  728. Arnel's training by dobax · · Score: 1

    I do Arnel's training and it works like a charm: http://www.iwantsixpackabs.com/abs.html. You'll have to pay special attention to the foods suggested in this site and in related sites.

  729. KRAV MAGA!!!!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    KRAV MAGA!!!!!

  730. Exercise & Diet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I know you asked about workouts specifically, but you need to diet and exercise in order to have meaningful weight loss and maintenance. Weight loss really boils down to [caloriesOUT - caloriesIN]

    caloriesOUT - In order to figure out what you burn doing nothing, you can calculate your BMR (Basal Metabolic Rate) http://www.bmi-calculator.net/bmr-calculator/bmr-formula.php.

    caloriesIN - You should keep a journal of what you eat on a daily basis and calculate the number of calories you consume http://www.thecaloriecounter.com/

    For any other exercise activities, you can figure out how many calories you burned and add that to Calories OUT. http://www.healthstatus.com/calculate/cbc

    To maintain safe weight loss, caloriesOUT - caloriesIN = 500. That will have you safely burning off about a pound a week (3500 calories = 1 lb of fat). If you approach weight loss in a simple and straightforward manner, you will likely be more successful than if you just latch on to fad diets or routines. Weight maintenance is not a matter of diet or exercise but of lifestyle changes. Hope this helps!

  731. Maximize at home exercise by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have been going to the gym a lot but I've noticed even with a hard workout it's hard to get that 6-pack, so I googled and found this http://iwantsixpackabs.com/ free site but requires a sign-up to watch his videos. If you follow his routines and eat well ( and have small portions throughout the day) you can probably look like him. I'm about 8 weeks in now, my abs aren't quite as defined yet, but I also wasn't going from quite a bit of bodyfat to very lean, so it's less noticable on my body. But I have noticed a change in my tone and size. GL

  732. get a pedometer by arbitraryaardvark · · Score: 1

    I need a solid and effective routine that will tone all my muscle groups efficiently. Do any Slashdotters have a regular workout routine that can be performed in the privacy of the home to stave off those pounds?"

    It's an engineering problem. You can solve it with a technical fix, or by altering behaviors.

    1) Get a pedometer. Measure how many steps you take in a day to establish a baseline. Calculate how many more steps you need to burn off x calories. Adjust your routines to accommodate those more steps. I dunno, right shoes stored in attic, left in basement?

    2) get a device that lets you pedal power your computer or tv. Buy off shelf at zapworld.com if they still have those or google for it or make your own from an exercise bike, generator and inverter.

    3) get a personal trainer or a mistress.

    4) a kirby vaccum cleaner weighs about 50 lbs. vaccuum your floors twice daily. This is not the option I would choose. But find tasks that take work, and do them routinely, to fill the gap in your calorie budget. Learning new dance moves counts as work - how's your samba?

    Now, on to the non-responsive answers:
    Hypnosis or medication to address either your exercise goals or social issues. Medication to adjust your metabolism. A tapeworm.
    Get a dog, take the dog for a walk every day.
    Mumble a hello back when people say hello - they will.
    Adjust your caloric intake. Several ways to do this:
    use chopsticks instead of a fork.
    become vegan - on average, vegetarians are 20 pounds lighter.
    use more whole foods that take more time and work to prepare. example, peanuts in the shell instead of peanut butter. veggies grown in your garden - which can even be a hydroponic indoor garden are effectively calorie free because you work to grow them.
    become more conscious of your eating. keep an inventory of what you ate, why when, etc., at least until you've adjusted to the point you are looking for.

    Bike at night? In disguise? Not riding my bike is one of the main reasons my weight has gone from 170 to 195 in the past year.

  733. guerilla7 by guerilla7 · · Score: 1

    brazilian jiu-jitsu :-)

  734. Indoor Climbing by Backward+Z · · Score: 1

    Climbing gym = awesome.

    Traditional exercise to me is boring. Lifting weights, treadmills, rowing machines, it's all repetitive motion. Tedious, boring.

    Climbing, on the other hand, is like physical puzzle solving. The real challenge in climbing is figuring out how to get to that next grip, not necessarily just getting that extra repetition. There's also a Guitar Hero style difficulty grading and it can be very satisfying to successfully climb a course of the next difficulty.

    Climbing. Is. The. Shit. I'm in the best shape of my life and am loving it.

  735. Get a dog. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You'll need to go walk three times a day. Rain or no rain. Trust me, it helps more than you think.

  736. That seems counterintuitive by GameboyRMH · · Score: 1

    whore's bath

    Don't you want to be less sticky?

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  737. Martial arts by spiffmastercow · · Score: 1

    It's a great way for geeks to exercise. You get grouped with people at your general level of ability, which mitigates the anxiety of being around people in better shape or higher degree of skill. Also, it allows you to play a game of sorts and hone your skills at something, rather than repetitive biking or jogging, which can easily leave you bored and uninterested.

  738. The hacker's diet by Deth_Master · · Score: 1

    The Hacker's Diet

    Provides statistics, weight tracking, and a simple, yet rigorous workout plan. It works when one sticks to it, heh. I need to get back to sticking to it.

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  739. Games/sports by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    i was told to eat multiple small meals a day and take vitamin supplements 3 times a day and that has been working well so far. keeps the metabolism up for the day by eating small meals all day long. as for home exercise. i would say DDR and Wii fit(more DDR tho it's more fun). I would also say try and find a sport you can play regularly like tennis or something worked well for me if you enjoy playing the sport then it doesn't seem like exercise.

  740. roman chair and a jump rope by master2b · · Score: 1

    I picked up a roman chair and a jump rope from big 5. I do dips, pullups wide, chin ups and leg lifts to failure. Then I do some jump roping for cardio . . . all very doable at home.

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  741. Five basic exercises by Rikardon · · Score: 1

    ... or 5BX. Developed by the Royal Canadian Air Force in the 50s. No equipment, done in the privacy of your own home, and effective. 11 minutes a day. There's a download link at the bottom of the Wikipedia article for the 5BX charts.

  742. John Stone by Dolly_Llama · · Score: 1

    Harness the analytical and the fastidious.

    John Stone Fitness really impressed me. He applied an almost OCD level of detail to his diet and exercise regime and kept records of the results.

    iirc, he works at home and has a home gym. Check out the animated gif of his first results. Very impressive.

    --

    Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known. -- Carl Sagan

  743. Wii fit by tkohler · · Score: 1

    ./ers will no doubt want to set the "wii fit instructor" to the female and watch her demo yoga for additional "exercise".

  744. Body For Life by weatherbug · · Score: 1

    Body For Life is an excellent introduction to fitness and eating. I highly recommend you read the book.

  745. baby wipes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just like you can't make a green oasis of a field from parched desert from an hour's rain, you can't stink from an hour's exercise right out of the shower. I'd recommend a shower after biking home from work however!

    If you want to be sure, use (unscented!) baby wipes to do a wipe down of the more wet areas when you get to work.

  746. CRIME!!! by Cybrex · · Score: 1

    Want to get fit in a hurry? The people advocating Parkour, running, or boxing all have part of the solution, but combine them all with calorie-burning adrenaline and you've got the ultimate workout plan: crime!

    Start out small. Breaking and entering works all of the major muscle groups, especially if you're going for large items, and the rush from your first job will have your heart racing before you've even taken crowbar to window! Plus, since you'll likely botch your first job you get the added workout of fleeing from the scene.

    Once the "newness" wears off, increase the cardiovascular component by only breaking into 2nd story windows. Eventually you can even move up to 3rd floor or higher. Bigger challenge and potentially bigger profits!

    There's more than just B&E, however! Join your local underground fight club? No such thing? No problem! Just pick a fight with a random stranger! The punching and dodging will give you a great upper body workout to balance the sprinting you've been doing to escape from police and light-sleeping homeowners! I suggest starting light- find someone unsuspecting with their guard down (in line at Baskin-Robbins is a good start) and just start pounding on them. Move up to bigger people, and then finally people with lots of friends around for the ultimate workout! You can keep a small weapon like a kubotan or a roll of quarters handy in case things get out of hand, but that's bad form and will potentially reduce the effectiveness of your workout.

    Getting busted? Well, fitness comes with a price. On the other hand, a trip to the big house is like a trip to a 24/7 gym, and at the same time it'll solve your "I don't have time to exercise" problem! It's win win!

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  747. Re:Technical explanation; didn't rtfa. by yarbo · · Score: 1

    You're in your ideal fat burning zone when you're watching tv on the couch. Caring about the fat burned during the exercise is about as smart as carrying about the amount of muscle built during a strength training session (hint: you're destroying the muscle). When you do aerobics, you're making yourself more efficient. Good, huh? Well, it's good if you want to run a marathon or something and you want to use less energy doing it. However, if you're trying to lose weight, you want to be less efficient. You want to burn more calories with less effort. You want to burn calories 24/7. Interval training and weight training can raise your metabolism for 20 hours or more. Long slow running doesn't raise your metabolism very long.

    Kramer, Volek et al.

    Influence of exercise training on physiological and performance changes with weight loss in men.

    Med. Sci. Sports Exerc., Vol. 31, No. 9, pp. 1320-1329, 1999.

    Overweight subjects were assigned to three groups: diet-only, diet plus aerobics, diet plus aerobics plus weights. The diet group lost 14.6 pounds of fat in 12 weeks. The aerobic group lost only one more pound (15.6 pounds) than the diet group (training was three times a week starting at 30 minutes and progressing to 50 minutes over the 12 weeks).

    The weight training group lost 21.1 pounds of fat (44% and 35% more than diet and aerobic only groups respectively). Basically, the addition of aerobic training didn't result in any real world significant fat loss over dieting alone.

    Thirty-six sessions of up to 50 minutes is a lot of work for one additional pound of fat loss. However, the addition of resistance training greatly accelerated fat loss results.

    The second key "ingredient" in fat loss programming is high intensity interval training (HIIT). It burns more calories than steady state and elevates metabolism significantly more than other forms of cardio. The downside is that it flat-out sucks to do it!

    The landmark study in interval training was from Tremblay:

    Tremblay A, Simoneau JA, Bouchard C.

    Impact of exercise intensity on body fatness and skeletal muscle metabolism.
    Metabolism. 1994 Jul;43(7):814-8

    This study pitted 20 weeks of endurance training against 15 weeks of interval training:

    Energy cost of endurance training = 28661 calories.
    Energy cost of interval training = 13614 calories (less than half)

    The interval training group showed a nine times greater loss in subcutaneous fat than the endurance group (when corrected for energy cost).

    References grabbed from: http://www.alwyncosgrove.com/hierarchy-of-fat-loss.html

    jogging doesn't look so great any more does it?

  748. Yet another free nutrition/fitness web site by Quentis · · Score: 1

    The university software development group in which I work has been developing yet another free-to-use nutrition/fitness web site for the past year or so. Beta testing has meant recording everything I've eaten and all of the exercise I've performed for that year. (Well, first it meant *finding* some exercise to do.) It's remarkable what an impact the simple act of journaling can have on (at least my) behavior: one year later, ~35 pounds down, and much more energy.

    Not being a runner -- not even when chased -- I walk 5-6 most days, and lift some (very) light weights just a few times a week. The biggest surprise to me has been how much the body seems to *enjoy* exercise.

    To echo what others have written here: Losing weight and getting fit are definitely a matter of shaping your lifestyle. The mental boost that results from taking control and choosing to live in a healthier manner is a substantive perk.

    And now, for the shameless plug: Please feel free to visit http://411fit.com/ We are still working on this daily -- principally trying to find ways to make it easier to use -- and appreciate constructive comments. Thanks!

  749. Figure Skating by zaft · · Score: 1

    Seriously! It's REALLY good exercise, you can do it indoors any time of year (unless the rinks around you are seasonal), and for an introvert it's ideal because it's very introspective, just you and the ice. It also appeals to perfectionists because there's always something more to improve, more to perfect. Things can always be just that little bit better. When I started skating I lost 20 lbs or more and got in really great shape. Downsides are mostly that it's rather expensive compared to more 'conventional' sports, sometimes ice availability is limited, and instead of being hot and sweaty, you'll be cold and sweaty :-). Oh, and there's the whole "falling" thing, but you get used to that.

  750. jiu-jitsu class, yearly commitment ought to do it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You gotta commit dude and to commit you usually have to be pushed. A $30/mo gym membership with just equipment doesn't really push you to do much of anything. I've been doing that for almost 6 months with only very moderate results.

    Then I signed up for a jiu-jitsu class. It's $156/month and I'm committed to a year. The cost, and getting my ass kicked in there every day, has motivated me to go as often as humanly possible, and work out at home to get an additional edge.

  751. Where is your time? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Make your computer reads and writes slashdot instead of doing it by yourself and now you have time to help your wife or play with your children. If you're living alone I think it's a good idea if you can go out for doing something(using your body's energy) with your neighbor(s). But I wonder why wireless technology cannot help one free to move?

  752. You all are morons by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Seriously, the guy is asking for ideas for a PRIVATE workout, not advice on how to live his life. Screw you and the bike you rode in on. XD

    My idea? Try self-learned MMA- That's "Mixed Martial Arts" for all you philistines out there. You can find all sorts of training videos available online (therefore, you never have to be in public), you can determine the pace yourself, plus you learn cool techniques to beat the crap out of all the uppity cyclists you come across!

  753. Find something enjoyable by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'd recommend something you find enjoyable, because if you do anything too repetitive or boring, you might find it hard to maintain. I found it difficult to go to the gym frequently for that reason, and actually lost more weight after I joined a football/soccer club that I still go to shortly after my friends did. As I'm quite introverted myself, my friends certainly helped. It might help to try something new, or as in my case, something you disliked before.

  754. My excercise by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hip Hop Abs, all day long!
    Ooh thats my song!

  755. Biking, hiking and climbing by npsimons · · Score: 1

    I hate gyms. Stinky, cold air, artificial light, boring non-well-rounded exercises; what's to like? I had a friend who tried to convince me (like others here) that weightlifting was the answer because it increased overall metabolism. I was willing to go to the gym for a while, but not for the rest of my life, and that's what you should really be asking yourself: what life change(s) are you willing to make? Because only things that you like will you keep doing, and that's what it takes to become fit and stay that way.

    I bike to work, and no I don't mean "ride a motorcycle". Sure, I don't ride my bicycle every day, but I figure some days is better than none. You can ride your bike in snow and ice (with the right equipment) and in extreme heat (with enough water). The only valid excuse is illness, in which case, if you are that sick, you should stay home. It's good for you, it's good for your pocketbook and it's good for the environment. Win-win-win!

    I also recently started hiking again. Hiking is an excellent, well-rounded exercise. You get tons of aerobic/cardiovascular, lots of stamina, a decent amount of "weight training" (which, let's face it, who needs to bench press 250lb everday? weightlifting is for bodybuilding nerds), some flexibility, and one that many people miss, balance. Show me a machine in a gym that can do that, and give you gorgeous sights, fresh air and sunlight.

    The climbing, well, that's just fun. But it does give more focus on "weight training" and flexibility than hiking. It all depends on what you like to do. Find something strenous that you enjoy, and you will get into shape.

  756. Anonymous Coward by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://www.saludyfuerza.net/rutinas/sinequipo.html

    get somebody to translate this to you, im too lazy for it.
    It says you should do this routine twice without resting between exercises.
    If it is too much for you, start with less repetitions, and increase when you can.
    You only need two chairs

  757. 5 Basic Exercises by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    5 basic exercises

    No special equipment required, and it only takes 11 minutes a day.

  758. SEX!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Now that I've got your attention.

    Just have lots of sex. Seriously... why would you want any other workout?

  759. No SUV needed... by More_Cowbell · · Score: 1

    Just get a Honda Fit.
    Yes I know it was a joke, no I don't work for Honda.

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  760. Zone for the input, CrossFit for the output by Officer+Friendly · · Score: 1

    If you just want to lose weight, all you need to do is change your diet. I'm a zone diet fan, but there are lots of other ways to go. Just keep your carb/protein/fat ratio to around 40/30/30 and cut out refined carbs, replacing them with fruits and vegetables. If you want to get more fit (stronger, faster, more agile, etc.), you can't beat CrossFit. It's highly effective, and you can do it at home. http://www.crossfit.com/ - go, read, watch the videos, and get some.

  761. My Results by unperson · · Score: 1

    First, thank you for given me motivation enough to post my first reply to slashdot in years!

    The Past:

    I could have written this very "ask slashdot" 2 years ago. I was around 30yrs old, weighed over 230 pounds. I have always thought my health to be "good", but I'm in a high-risk category for heart disease, and had been gaining weight steadily since late college. When my wife told me we were implementing family+=1, I became (for the first time) aware that my health was very important to the health of my family, and decided I should try to do something about it.

    The Present:

    I weigh about 180lbs. I'm in the best shape of my life (in the cardiovascular sense) though I probably wouldn't break my personal bench press records I had in high school. But then again, I can do 50 push-ups, which I guarantee I was never able to do in high school!

    With similar thinking to the user who wrote this ask /., the breakthrough (for me) was to be able to exercise in my home. Career and personal obligations as well as, sure...personal insecurity, made me very unlikely to succeed in a fitness center environment. So, I bit the bullet and bought a midrange ($1500) elliptical trainer. I found this ideal for me because:

    1. High calorie burning aerobic workout.
    2. Fairly natural motion, very little fatigue (but I should mention it is crucial to try many different models from various manufacturers...I tested about a dozen and found all but a few to be awkward).
    3. Privacy. Less important for me now.
    4. Convienience (somedays, 5am is the only time, others, 8pm). I don't want to go to make a long drive to a gym (for me) on icy roads just to workout.
    5. zone-out-ability. I listen to the radio, watch TV, or sometimes, just think about my life. Try doing that in a gym with activity all over the place. I literally "lose myself" during my 50 minute workout, and making the time go by quickly and painlessly is probably the most important reason it has worked for me.

    At first, I started with 3-4 30 minute workouts a week (okay, at "very first" they were 20 minutes). At my peak, I was doing 5 50-60 minute workouts a week (that was insane!). Now, I do 3-4 50 minute workouts a week. My machine tells me, based on my weight, that I burn about 900 calories. I started this when I got to around 175 pounds (which I thought was as small as I needed to be) and have bounced back ever so slightly (but generally maintain 180) at this current level.

    I have also been incorporating crunches/push ups/ and 5 or 6 sets of free weights a few times a week, just to get a little balance. The pushups and crunches definately have toned my chest and abs, and the increased muscle there makes me look a lot better without a shirt than I did even 5 pounds less ago. Speaking of that, the most positive unanticipated side effect was becoming more attractive to the opposite sex...I might be in a monogamous relationship, but getting a flirtatious look from an attractive, young woman stranger can turn a bad day into a great day!

    The Future:

    I've been starting to try to incorporate other things. On days where its nice, I might trade an elliptical session with a 40 minute, 5 mile jog. Bad knees run in my family, so I'll probably never try to run a marathon. Might try biking. I have also begun to try some yoga to help with flexibility and back pain issues I've had for many years...just started that a few days ago, as a matter of fact.

    Anyway, this is what worked for me. I hope whatever you do, you stick to it. Once you see some results, you won't find that very difficult to do.

    1. Re:My Results by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      First, thank you for given me motivation enough to post my first reply to slashdot in years!

      A lot of slashdotters have come out of the woodwork for this one and there's a high signal to noise ratio! Astonishing!

  762. Re:Get out. Have some fun. by GregGardner · · Score: 1

    While I don't agree that a gym is absolutely necessary (small set of free weights, one treadmill/exercise bike/eclipse machine, and doing pushups, situps, etc. is enough for me, I think) I do agree that finding some activity that you enjoy really helps. The real key is being motivated to exercise. Just wanting to be healthy or look good are often not enough to keep you going week after week.

    I played sports when I was a kid (soccer, basketball, little league, etc.) but I never stuck with any of them because it turns out I don't really enjoy playing (or even watching) those particular sports. Well into adulthood I started watching ice hockey and really enjoyed the fast-paced non-stop action. That motivated me to go down to my local ice rink and take hockey lessons. Then I joined the adult beginners league after the classes were over and here I am 7 years later and I still look forward to my game every week. And since I'm motivated to improve my abilities, I channel that motivation into working out during the week to keep up my endurance for my games.

    If you're not really into competitive sports, there are always other activities out there as well such as martial arts, kayaking, windsurfing, biking, etc. that can be enough fun that you're not even that aware that you are getting exercise. Some of them you can even do by yourself if you really are that much of an introvert. The important thing is to find something you enjoy doing so that you will stick with it, and as you stated a lot of that does require going outside which isn't such a scary place.

  763. Geeks exercise online by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In fact I do not exercise. Bragging on slashdot about the number of push-ups I do each night works for me.

  764. Re:Technical explanation; didn't rtfa. by Mathonwy · · Score: 1

    Muscle cells are rich in mitochondria

    Woah! Does that mean people with muscles are more likely to be sensitive to the force?!???

  765. Depends. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Do your research.
    Set your goals.
    Do more research.

    Sit ups are worthless for working the core. Try the plank.

    If you want to gain muscle mass then you good sleep, good nutrition and intensity, usually weights or resistance bands, in that order.

    If you want to lose weight then gain some muscle mass and do aerobics and do your own research.

    If you work in front of a desk, get up often. Get up and wash your face. I get more done the more I stay away from my desk. Make sure you have good posture.
    -tek

  766. Dumbells by nachosupreme · · Score: 0

    Get a set of dumbells or better yet join a Gym! Who cares who you work out next too! Joining a gym keeps you motivated, there is plenty too see (nudge nudge) and once you are there you are kind of committed to doing your workout. Fetching things at home isnt going to cut it, especially if you are fetching stuff from the fridge!

  767. Take advantage of breaks... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I do simple workouts when I take restroom breaks. So, if I go pee 3-5 times while I'm at work, I can easily do 20+ pushups per 'visit.' This seems to be pretty effective. Depending where you work, you can take longer routes to the restroom and walk faster as well.

    Doing the relatively small amount you're doing only once a day really isn't going to make a fast, drastic change in your physique.

  768. crossfit or TRX by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've had good luck with modified crossfit workouts: crossfit.com. They have a good variety, and don't take up much time.

    I strongly second biking to work. One way around the showing problem is to see if your work provides a gym membership benifit, and then shower close by.

    If you really want to stay at your house, I've heard good things about the TRX, a kind of suspension webbing system that you can hook up anywhere. Here's a review: http://outside.away.com/outside/bodywork/200801/wellness-fitness-anywhere-trx.html

  769. P90X by Re-Pawn · · Score: 1

    Don't laugh - it has been very good to me. I really only needed some dumbbells and a pull up bar and I was able to do every exercise at home - the exercises are varied and sort of fun (especially the plyometrics.)

    In general I would prefer to exercise a bit harder rather than giving up dark beers or the occasional pint of Ben & Jerry's.

    One thought - drink water, coffee or tea. Other soft drinks are capable of providing a lot of empty calories.

  770. Biking License Revoked by tobiah · · Score: 1

    In Colorado the police can charge you with a DUI if you are caught BIKING while intoxicated. Happens in Boulder all of the time, usually to some poor schlub who crashes their bike and is too drunk or hurt to ride away. What's odd is this only revokes your Automobile driving rights, there's no biking license to revoke.

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  771. try pushups by Agrippa · · Score: 1

    do one hundred pushups

    This is a very easy program to follow. So easy in fact, I organized a 100 pushup challenge at my work and got 32 out of 40 people of all starting levels to participate.

  772. Inaccurate, but good advice by sam_vilain · · Score: 1

    Tai Chi is a great thing to do in the morning - during the time that you are most likely to have a heart attack, it's good to do some gentle, all-body movement that will use your muscles as pumps[*] to give your heart a rest. The gentle, fluid movements sloosh around all that lymphatic fluid and interstitial fluid (this is mostly what is referred to as "Qi"), which otherwise have nothing moving them and stagnate, causing pain and discomfort.

    I recommend the book The Tai Chi Book: Refining and Enjoying a Lifetime of Practice By Robert Chuckrow; reading from someone with a Physics PhD makes it quite palatable to your average geek. (It would be even better to have been co-authored by an MD, but still very good)

    As others have pointed out, Tai Chi Chuan is not "slow kung fu"; it's more like applied biomechanics, and can be practiced at all speeds.

    Best progress and effect is made not from schools which teach the whole form as quickly as possible, but those that emphasise building up each of the basic principles of Tai Chi doing very basic movements, and then "inducting" these principles into one of the many forms. So it pays to check all of the schools in your area, and look for the one which has the students which have been going for the longest, but learned a relatively small amount of the form. The ones that tend to favour spending entire classes going over minute details. Those that call themselves "Tai Chi Elements" schools are certainly a good bet.

    Tai Chi Chuan is the perfect martial art for the geek - it is the one where the mind can be fully put to work towards the problem at hand. Eventually you load Tai Chi Chuan as a subroutine into your grey matter, so that you can be benefiting from it during every exercise you do. It is low-impact, a self-sufficient practice. Then you can appear to "walk" or "run" about your daily activities, but you are actually practicing Tai Chi Chuan.

    And it takes a long time (say, 3 years or so - but a blink of an eye in terms of the length of your life, really) to get proficient enough in it to get like that. In the mean-time, swimming is the next best thing to Tai Chi Chuan to help the cardiovascular system. 20 minutes of this or other exercise every week is a good beginning level; increase as you feel is beneficial and enjoyable. The number one thing is not to stress - not about your training, nor stress your body unduly as you exercise.

    * - I can't find a good online reference to this action, but can be found in eg. Chapter 19 figure 19.6 of _Human A&P_, Elaine Marieb, 6th ed.

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  773. Re:Tai Chi by sam_vilain · · Score: 1

    Not true. It is more important to be able to do a handful of moves correctly than to be able to do 108 moves badly. Otherwise you are not practicing Tai Chi Chuan, you are merely imitating it.

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  774. Adopt a Dog by mjh2901 · · Score: 1

    One of the best ways to get excercise is to have motivation. Rescue a Golden Retriever or any other medium to large dog. They will guilt trip you onto the end of a leash every day. I never thought I had time to walk a dog, but seem to have no problem getting it done.

  775. How Do Geeks Exercise? by John+Hasler · · Score: 1

    By biting the heads off live chickens.

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  776. Re:Get out. Have some fun. by Starbreiz · · Score: 1

    How do we know the OP was male? Pilates might be right up her aisle!

    No, I'm not kidding... I'm female too.

  777. Re:Technical explanation; didn't rtfa. by Half-pint+HAL · · Score: 1

    I don't find that -- I find that because swimming exercises so many muscle groups simultaneously, I don't really feel like I've done anything. I don't get all that hungry afterwards, but I do find that I never feel full after my next meal....

    HAL.

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  778. Calorie count of nuts...? by Half-pint+HAL · · Score: 1

    They tell me the calorie count of nuts is wrong. They measure calorie content by burning things. Nuts burn well -- they're practically wood. Much of that energy is in indigestible fibres.

    HAL

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  779. Re:Technical explanation; didn't rtfa. by somersault · · Score: 1

    Breast stroke is pretty easy, but a brisk front crawl shatters me pretty quickly and gets my lungs going (if I went swimming more often I'd get used to it but the last few years I've probably only been swimming 3 or 4 times a year on average!). I don't have a problem using my muscles when exercising, I'm fine with stuff like weights, walking, kayaking, anything that doesn't get my lungs going, but things like swimming and running both get me feeling like I deserve a big meal :p

    As for the swimming thing it was just something I read recently while looking up how many calories different exercises burn. Apparently a lot of professional female swimmers have had "well publicised battles with their weight" or something. That phrase stuck in my head as a bit strange.

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  780. Run by head_dunce · · Score: 1

    A couple years after college, I had the same problem with weight. One day I just decided I was going to start running to get rid of it. I started running about a mile before work everyday, however fast (or slow) didn't matter as long as I finished. Eventually what seemed almost impossible the first day, became easier and easier as the weeks went by. I registered for some 5K races (3.1 miles) which gave me some goals to train for, and a couple of years later I actually finished 2 Chicago marathons.

    All you need is a pair of shoes to start, eventually you'll learn about the different shoes and clothing to wear, but you don't need to really worry about that stuff until you're able to run a couple miles without thinking it's far. You don't need anyone to train with, you just need enough of a drive to say you're going to do it -- in the rain, in the snow, you run. I find it best to do before work because if you get in the habit, you don't have an excuse not to do it.

    I'm still running, did 5 miles this morning at about a 7 min 30 sec per mile pace. I don't know if I'll do another marathon, but if I don't run in the morning now the whole day just doesn't feel right.

  781. Exerwhut? by douglaskarr · · Score: 1

    I'm resolved to the fact that I will most likely keel over and be dead before I hit the floor unless someone invents the 1,000-calorie-a-day burning keyboard and the 500-calorie-a-day mouse. Between now and then, my goal is to fix as many problems as I can while consuming as many pizzas as possible. God have mercy on my soul.

  782. All of these suggestions may have some merit... by Swordwright · · Score: 1

    ...and you had to expect the Wii Fit suggestion. An old standby: Dance Dance Revolution. A close geek friend who never touched a weight in his life lost 15 pounds in just over a month through conscientious DDR, and it was noticeable. Just like the Wii Fit, it is challenging to beat your own records, and thus in a way you measure not only your progress against your midsection but also against the "game." Since you are asking for suggestions for workouts for geeks, something tells me you aren't simply looking for formulaic workouts, but strategies for staying motivated, as well, or else you'd simply download a few workout plans and proceed. So try the game approach, and if that doesn't work, fall back on the ballroom dancing and similar approaches that are geek-friendly and self-maintaining in terms of interest. Good luck to you. Now I need to follow my own advice.

  783. Develop some exercise tracking tool by EddyTheJekyll · · Score: 1

    The way I keep myself interested is to track my workouts with a GPS/HRM and software tool I'm developing. Since I'm a software engineer/geek I find it pretty fun, interesting and education to learn how to instrument my own workouts and dietary habits. What keeps me motivated is to log every workout and keep track of all of my biometrics, meals, and workouts in a web app. I also take the xml from my gps/hrm and generate maps and graphs of all the relevant date. And yes, I bike to work. Every time I ride, I strap on my GPS/HRM and head out. Some days I'll take the same route and when I'm done I hook the gps/hrm to the computer and then compare it with the previous time I rode that route. Some days, I'll take different routes and the fun there is to create new maps/routes and elevation profiles. It makes it fun to experiment with new routes and combine them into longer routes when I have time. The web app is a work in progress, but is definitely getting cooler. As I ride I think about the app and new features or methods of handling the data. I now have a database of routes and workouts and history of commutes, workouts, exercises and meals. I can embed youtube videos in the exercise section so proper form can be referenced. I can export my routes to Google earth and manipulate it there. I'm Continually refining it, and it helps me to stay motivated and interested. I tend to wear my GPS/HRM when I'm doing stuff around the house to figure my exertion and calories burned. How geeky is that?

  784. give yourself plenty of options by mscir · · Score: 1

    Lots of great ideas already, I'll repeat a few, but mostly I want to say that you may find having a selection of things to do will keep working out the most fun. Resistance training (with weights of some sort) is important to get or maintain bone and muscle mass, so I'd buy a curling bar and some dumbbells. Buy a decent (comfortable, light, fast) bicycle, aerobics help the heart & lungs, having a fast bike you love really helps you get excited about riding it. And diet is a huge contributor to health/illness: I recommend you seriously consider becoming a vegan and quit eating junk food. Finally, mix up your workouts if that keeps them from getting boring, the body likes you to throw different challenges at it, ride 10 miles plus several times a week, lift weights hard twice a week, eat healthy 80% of the time, you'll definitely feel and look better.

  785. Simple Question, Simple Answer..... by IHC+Navistar · · Score: 1

    Q: "How Do Geeks Excercise?"

    A: Nintendo Wii.

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  786. ...All you need is a high protein diet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...All you need is a high protein diet.

    Do not eat the last 3 hours before you go to sleep.
    Get rid of your car and buy a bike.

  787. A more serious approach by Walexman · · Score: 1

    For 300 pounds(english currency), probably a lot less in the states. You can get a squat rack, and an incline/decline bench, and a load of wieghts(plus barbell and dumbbells). This will fit easily into a medium sized room and you can do just about anything you can do at the gym. There are many websites that will outline the various exercises you can do with freeweights. I have heard from many sources that freeweights are beneficial to gym machines anyway. Losing wieght is helpful but muscle training is the best way to fight the general sag that comes with ageing. Consistency is the key, and if you get into it you will find yourself looking forward to a workout.

  788. Re:Technical explanation; didn't rtfa. by packeteer · · Score: 1

    I have heard a lot of people talk about how cardio makes you more efficient. It is a tiny reduction. I am a competitive cyclist and i WISH i could get more efficient easily. Instead i have to train very specifically for 6 days a week for hours a day just to go from 23-24% efficiency. If you are not training to be more efficient it wont happen. This whole argument again cardio stinks. Yes you burn slightly less calories for the same amount of work when you train cardio but consider this; Once you are in great cardio shape you go from burning maybe 100 calories an hour to several times that much. That is a much bigger difference than just saying you go from burning 100 calories an hour to 198. Oh sweet you gained efficiency and burned 2 less calories. That doesn't hurt your plan at all.

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  789. Go fly a kite! by GodLessOne · · Score: 1

    I got into kite flying about 4 years ago. All you need is a (nearby) park or field ..... and a kite!
    You can do it on your own so you don't have to worry about talking to people.
    As you master your kite-fu you get to move to bigger kites in stronger winds, or even onto a mountain board or into a kite buggy.

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    Is it time to go home yet?
  790. Mmmm, bacon by ganley · · Score: 1

    The reason for the discrepancy between the nutrition information on the bacon and the weight on the front of the box is that the nutrition info applies as typically consumed. A substantial amount of the weight of bacon cooks off as grease, which (hopefully) you don't eat.

    You are cooking the bacon before you eat it, right? :-)

  791. Skipping by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yeah I know, doesn't sound too manly does it. But if it could keep Bruce Lee and most if not all boxers fit, then I guess it's a good tool. Plus it's super cheap and could be done pretty much anywhere.

  792. Re:Technical explanation; didn't rtfa. by fearofcarpet · · Score: 1

    ...without gaining a fraction of an inch around my waste line...

    I don't know whether that typo was intentional or not.

    I just know that I like it.

    To quote a friend of mine from years ago: "I'm not too bright, but I can lift heavy things"

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  793. Simple Answer by The+Buff+Geek · · Score: 1

    Listed in order of importance.

    1. Clean Diet

    2. Weight training

    3. Interval Training

    4. Aerobic Exercise

    There are many resources on the web where you can find simple body weight exercises you can do in the privacy of your own home. Hell, Ive trained people using only a 6"x4" space and no equipment before. If you're a beginner I wouldn't even recommend venturing to the more complicated exercises until you've mastered body weight squats, lunges, push-ups and the like. These are just movements that the human body should be able to perform on a fundamental level.

    I know putting weight training before aerobic training seems backwards but within the last few years research has been finding that the ability to preserve lean muscle and stimulate EPOC (excess post oxygen consumption) is of much more importance in a weight loss program.

    Before naysayers come at me, this is how I make my money. Full time, not part time. If it didn't work I wouldn't be able to pay the bills.

    Google me if you like. My name is Jamie Nischan

  794. Exercise videos by Aswokei · · Score: 1

    Try to exercise when you can. When I'm at work, I try to eat my lunch at my computer and then for lunch I walk for an hour (usually while listening to language lessons or music). Immediately when I get home (after work or class) I pop in an exercise DVD. I strip down to my underwear and pop in aerobics (Power 90, Tony Horton) or Pilates (Anna Caban). After I do those I do pushups and pullups (with a bar in my doorway). On average it's about 30 minutes. Not much time at all. As a result, I'm pretty fit for a dude who spends a lot of time sitting in a cubicle or at a desk in school. The benefits of working out at home is that it saves a buttload of time, as opposed to going to the gym. You don't have to transport yourself, change, or think about transporting/changing yourself. You exercise, and you're done and on to the next thing. Simple.

  795. Easy answer by Schmyz · · Score: 1

    KETTLEBELLS...... And im an ex-special forces type...they work GREAT for me.

  796. Under-Desk Stairstepper! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A geeky friend of mine keeps a mini stairstepper under his desk and steps as he codes! We think it's hilarious but he seems to stay fit.

  797. get paid to work out by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I suggest, if at all possible, to try to find a way to get paid to work out rather than joining a gym. This summer I'm working at a motel doing housekeeping and I've lost more weight than any other "exercise" I've ever tried. Ask your boss if you can help unload boxes or do some other physical chore around the office. Cleaning your house every day is also a good way to burn calories. Or volunteer on the weekend to help with some kind of physically demanding work.. Anyway, my two cents..

  798. Tae Kwon Do by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I know you said in the privacy of your home, But I recomend martial arts. The classes are small and the proper instructor can do wonders. I just earned my Black Belt in Tae Kwon Do and my entire family participates in this. It is excellent form of exercise.

  799. Do It All by nightcats · · Score: 1

    Someone invented a stationary bike with a platform that you can put a laptop on -- you pedal and program at the same time. Now isn't that a typical corporate solution -- the boss saying, "stay healthy, geek, but don't stop writing the damned code!"

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  800. Race training is geeky by CrimeaRiver · · Score: 1

    One of the things that I do to help stave off the occasional hunger is to drink more fluids. I've found that the low-calorie Crystal Light...

    On that note, it's not everyone's cup of tea, but I prefer, well, tea. Specifically, hot brewed tea. Most teas are unprocessed and certain varieties are allegedly beneficial, (green teas). Of course, it's not so healthy if you load it down with sugar and cream, so you're better off finding a variety you like straight-up.

    As far as exercise goes, running can be a very solitary exercise if you live or work in a sparsely populated area. It can also be a very geeky venture, especially if you train for a race. There's tons of research on the physiology of performance and lots of race training regimens based on the acquired knowledge (caveat emptor, though, some are more well grounded than others). I've been partial to the Furman Institute's programs for foot race training.

    1. Re:Race training is geeky by Martin+Blank · · Score: 1

      I was unaware of this program. Thank you for referencing it. I'll look into it, and may well buy the book.

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  801. Do any Slashdotters have a regular workout routine by meldred · · Score: 1

    To answer your question directly, yes! There are a lot of opinions going around, but I remember a saying, "A man with an experience is never at the mercy of a man with a theory." Granted, half of my routine involves running. I also have a very simple weight gym (free weights). Here is my routine: I run 3 to 4 miles every other day (e.o.d.). 90 push-ups (30 regular, 60 incline) eod. 45 pull-ups (3 sets of 15) eod. 90 sit-ups (30 regular, 30 oblique, 30 leg lift) eod. 45 reps on bench press (3 sets of 15 @ 182lbs) eod. 45 reps (3 sets of 15) pulling my body up while in a horizontal position (opposite of bench press) eod. 60 reps verticle arm raises to work top of shoulders (3 sets of 20 @11lbs each arm) eod. 45 reps curls (3 sets of 15 @ 40lbs) I also take the stairs when possible and take every opportunity I can fit in for outdoor activity. So, I highly recommend getting outdoors. I hike, kayak, rock climb. Some of my upper body work is done on a small finger board (rock climbing training board). Finally, while diet is very important, this lifestyle allows me to drink a beer or glass of wine every night and enjoy eating just about anything I want. Peanut Butter is among my favorite things to eat. The result - I am 35 5'8" weighing in at 161lbs without health issues and very low stress.

  802. no need to work out or to starve to stay thin! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    no need to do any workout or to starve: just stop eating things that alter your appetite! If you cut out high fructose corn syrup (and other artificial sweeteners..) from your diet you will eat a lot less and lose weight. The reason is that HFCS messes up one of the feedback loops from your belly to your brain that would tell your brain you have had enough to eat. I.e. it messes up your metabolism and keeps you hungry longer. More details here:
    http://www.abc.net.au/rn/healthreport/stories/2007/1969924.htm

    People who think the US is fat b/c people "eat too much" are clueless, because if their claim were true it would imply that the Americans are weak-willed compared to, say, the Europeans (i do not think so..). Practically no one is strong enough to withstand hunger (=the brain's urging to eat more) in the long run, thus the only thing that matters is how foods you eat alter your hunger feeling for longer periods of time. In this regard high fiber content foods are good - they will keep you filled for a long time at a relatively low price (price=calory intake in this context). In other words, high fiber foods take a long time to digest --> they are good. Any form of sugar and processed carbo-hydrates are very bad as they are digested very quickly and then you are hungry again... And sugars (especially fructose when consumed not in fruits) are ultra-bad, as they partially turn off your "i am full" feeling, and thus you keep eating more.

    Btw., look up how much energy exercise consumes! A two hour walk, I recall, takes away about one hamburger's calories, i.e. almost nothing, as far as i am concerned. The idea that exercise is the crucial factor in staying thin is clearly b.s. We need most of our energy intake for maintaining a stable body temperature, not for moving our mass...

    Just for the record: high fiber foods are legumes (beans, lentils, split peas, peas), vegetables that are "above ground" (fiber is the thing that keeps their shape against gravity.. plants underground generally don't need this support), leafy veggies, most fruits from continental climate (tropical fruits are *not* high in fiber, for example pinaple, dates, bananas, grapes, mangoes are all terrible).

    Things to avoid if you want to lose weight: anything that has HFCS (this is rule#1, you may forget everything else, this is by far the most important). Other things to avoid: any type of artificial sweetener, hydrogenated anything (usually oils or fats),
    potato, white bread, white pasta, pizza dough, cakes and cookies, in general almost all baked goods from supermarkets, anything made of white flour, white rice, sodas, cereals that have less than 8% fiber content or that contain HFCS, ice cream, candies and the like, fruit yogurts, etc long list of incredibly sweet things you can get in supermarkets today.

    if you look for conclusive data on some food look up its glycemic index. This describes how much a given portion of that food will increase blood sugar (which is inversely proportional with how long it will take to digest it...), so the lower the glicemic index is the better.
     

  803. Re:Technical explanation; didn't rtfa. by yarbo · · Score: 1

    What range do you compete at?

    I'm talking about the reduction in resting heart rate and the increased efficiency at rest. I doubt you care about any of that, but if you're trying to lose weight, burning fewer calories 23 hours a day is not going to do you any favors. Your average person is not going to push themselves to the point you've reached where they can ride for more than 10 hours a week. Even if they did, why bother when you can lose more fat in less time with interval and resistance training?

    I'm not sure that training for hours a day 6 days a week is going to be the answer to your efficiency problem. Have you had your technique analyzed? What sort of periodization are you using, if any?

  804. Re:Tai Chi by LS · · Score: 1

    yes, but 8-9 years to not even finish the routine is NOT correct under any circumstances. I'm not speaking out of my ass either - I've trained 8 hours minimum every week in Beijing for the last three years as a formal apprentice in the Chen lineage. We practice traditional Taiji as designed by the originators, including fighting skills.

    Correct form is absolutely important. I'm only debating the time scale. I learned the 83 move New Frame Yilu routine in a bit over a year. And definitely with proper posture, rhythm and grounding. A peach-wood stick to the body painfully indicated where my posture was incorrect and allowed me to fix it. Also, if basic training isn't being done (leg strengthening, stretching to full splits, etc), then proper posture in Taiji will never be achieved.

    I can tell you with confidence that the large majority of Taiji teachers, especially in the west, are teaching a watered down version for non-apprentices and treating their practice like a business. They will keep students in the dark and stretch out training as long as possible to make money.

    Sorry to have to make this so blunt, but it's a truth that people need to know, because the art is being destroyed while building a bad reputation.

    LS

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  805. Re:The Hacker's Diet? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The Hackers Diet is scalable for your weigth, runs as logically as a computer algorithm, can be used by young and old, and can be executed in a server room. What's not to like?

  806. Exercise by Viperpete · · Score: 1

    Sometimes I move my wireless mouse to my left hand.

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  807. Combat conditioning by Shang+Chi · · Score: 1

    http://www.mattfurey.com/index.htm Do what this guy says to do and everyone will fear you.

  808. Re:Tai Chi by sam_vilain · · Score: 1

    I think you're attributing far too much of this to malice, when really the thing is that the teachers just have a different emphasis on training. To many, completion of learning the form is simply not as important as good practice. They focus on minute details of movement and get everything correct to a high precision. It takes only a few moves before a skilled master can pick the mistakes which it is important to correct before moving on to the next stage. If the focus is on keeping to a timescale, then precision is necessarily compromised. Learning the sequence of moves is simply not the hard part, heck you can find many books which describe them and videos which display them.

    Your assertion "NOT correct under any circumstances" is simply your point of view.

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  809. Re:Tai Chi by sam_vilain · · Score: 1

    furthermore I'd just like to comment on this statement;

    We practice traditional Taiji as designed by the originators, including fighting skills.

    You make it sound like being true to some nostalgic past is actually important. In reality the science of tai chi has moved on considerably since the early days.

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  810. Re:Get out. Have some fun. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My god this is stupid, you should be modded funny at most.

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  812. 20 minutes a day by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've done running for some years, but the problem tend to be the weather, which in northern Europe isn't always acting the way I want it to. Or some other idiotic excuse is easy to conjure 2 minutes before heading out.

    I've set up a sort of "exercising" routine, that goes something like this:

    100 situps
    35 pushups
    100 situps
    50 leg lifts (unsure of the actual term)
    50 2x10 kgs biceps lifts

    I can do the entire routine twice in ~18 minutes (with the proper musical score :) and I actually deem myself in good shape.

    I simply "lock" myself into the office either when I get home from work or a few hours later; and I manage to get it done almost daily. The girlfriend hasn't complained either ;) Naturally, adjust the numbers to your need/level and remember that the beginning is always the hardest part.

  813. Run at night - if your neighborhood allows by tbg58 · · Score: 1

    I completely understand not wanting to be in public - I have the same concern. In my case running at night works out - the kids are in bed, and I can get out and pound down four miles in less than 40 minutes.
    The sidewalks are almost completely deserted after nine o'clock, and I've never felt like I was being observed. It took a bit of gumption to go the first couple of times, but now it's part of my routine.
    I strap on my MP3 with some good spoken word audio - books or tech talks usually - and my run is a very nice, quiet, private time for me. I have gotten to where I really like it. But what you're doing is far better than nothing. Keep up the calisthenics and weight training but add some aerobics like running, biking or swimming to your regimen. Your cardiovascular system will love it. It's not easy, but it's worth it.

  814. How do Geeks Exercise? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    145 pounds till I was 37 left me ill-prepared for weight reduction later in life. I used to cycle to work 11k but that never worked for me because it was all down hill in the morning and all uphill at night and my body only had one cycling speed. Lots of rainwear in the winter and too hot in the summer. Then I got a chance from some buddies at work to teach me basketball at 56. I went from 248 pounds down to 190 and still losing weight gradually. I play at least 3 times a week and can pretty much eat whatever I want. Lots of the guys are programmers or in related computer fields. You sweat like hell, run around and have fun and lose weight. I never played a team sport before so I had (and still have) a lot of learning to do even in my 59th year! Now, I don't have to feel guilty the other 160 hours a week reading slashdot! I have truely never felt better. Putting 48 pounds of butter on the table - is a lot of excess fat to be carrying around. Deadly.

  815. Re:Tai Chi by LS · · Score: 1

    You make it sound like being true to some nostalgic past is actually important. In reality the science of tai chi has moved on considerably since the early days.

    It's not nostalgia. You can learn physics from Michael Talbot, or you can learn from Niels Bohr. Physics is defined by physicists, and requires great rigor and learning from those who were trained with the same rigor. Taiji is the same. It is not the scattered dense incomprehensible jungle that many people believe it to be - there are very specific principles and milestones that should be present in a proper practice. Others can take fragments of Taiji and change it and teach it and call it Taiji, but it really is something different and should probably be called something different. I understand that what you have found may be a legitimate practice but it should probably be called something else. You can take basketball and switch the rules around and it may be just as fun and just as interesting as basketball, but is it fair to call it basketball?

    Check out Chen Xiaowang, Chen Zhaokui, Chen Fake, Chen Yu, Zhu Tiancai, and others to see what proper Taiji is about.

    Life is limited in length. There is a vast body of knowledge and training to learn in Taiji, and spending that much time on form is unfair to your friend. There are weapons forms, jiben gongfu (basic strength training) chenjin/yatui (stretching), silk reeling exercises, and of course several forms of tuishou that are to be learned to complete the Taiji practice. I know your thoughts - it's not about the myriad of practices, but about the correctness of the practices themselves. But you can build one wall of a house perfectly, but without the other three walls and the ceiling, it's a useless house. With Taiji, you aren't going to achieve the great health benefits, and one of the major goals that basically defined the art - fighting skills - if you are focusing on one thing. It's like spending all your time on trigonometry and never moving on to calculus. anyway enough with the analogies, i hope you get my point.

    If what your friend wants is meditation, he should look into zazen. Taiji is something else

    --
    There is a fine line between being a cultivated citizen and being someone else's crop. - A. J. Patrick Liszkie
  816. Wash the car, grasshopper by smchris · · Score: 1

    We're all busy, right? The _only_ thing that has _EVER_ worked for me is something that is _meaningfully_ integrated into my daily life.

    I suspect all the advice about doing an hour of home exercise bike/night, going to the gym, setting up a weight room, blah-de-blah will squirt through many minds faster than crap through a goose but a whole lot cleaner leaving hardly a trace. So I'm heavily biased toward the advice to walk, run, bike to work, to the mall, for groceries and such. Put _purpose_ into the motion.

    I started out walking to work instead of busing. Sort of like, "Hey, the bus isn't here yet. I bet I could walk a block toward work. Nope, still not visible down the street. I could probably walk another block or two." Then it was more like deciding if I left 5 minutes earlier, I could usually make it to the transfer without the first bus at all. Then it was looking around from there and seeing that I could take a pedestrian shortcut (a little funky including a block of railroad tracks) and walk myself to work about 5 minutes later than the wide loop the bus would wind to get me there. So, why did I need the bus at all? Adding an _extra_ 20 minutes/day to something I had to do _anyway_ got me four miles of walking 5 days/week. I think you have to agree that 20 miles of walking/week for 100 extra minutes/week is quite a return on time investment. The walking became jogging and the jogging became running. Eventually, I could actually _almost_, but almost never actually, beat the bus I would have taken home anyway. Rather hard-core fit at that point but it was a bit magical -- the time difference of adding exercise to my life literally shrunk to negligible.

    Now not so young. Biking. Must have been some intelligent design somewhere. The uncool collapsible wire carriers I put on the Trek each hold a paper grocery bag perfectly. Those, and a backpack for another bag or two worth make for a decent payload. Fortunate to live near access to an extensive network of bike highways -- if they are paved, striped, and have road signs and rest stops are they really "paths"? It's cool to discover stuff like, "Gee, I didn't know those strip malls have paved back bike entrances and racks off their own road."

  817. Exercise and Diet are ritual by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This continuously confuses me.

    So you've created a system to achieve a particular goal, let's say you made yourself a router out of an old 386 box back in 1995 and whacked two ethernet cards and a 56k modem in the system to serve as a rudimentary firewall for research purposes.

    As time goes by, do you continue to maintain your esoteric and outdated bygone relic of prior eras, because that's the way that it's always been done? The obvious answer is that no, you replace it with some other technology better suited to meeting the goal of the original system, either a virtual system on a higher powered computer that you can sandbox with or a cheap wrt54g router attached to a dsl2 line for internet access, or probably both if you're anything like me.

    We're engineers, hackers, technical masters, call us what you will, but we have a particular philosophy that always seemed to be fundamentally disconnected to that of the everyday sheeple that make up the vast majority of the human population, engaging in meaningless ritual to placate some imagined deity and achieve a circumspect goal related only vaguely to the actual action in question as almost the sole defining factor of their lives.

    Why here though, are we just the same? Our bodies are just machines, like the tools and creations we tinker and modify without care as to ritual, and yet we insist on behaving just like the plebs when it comes to this facet of our lives, going through the ritual of diet and exercise to achieve the goal of health. Yes it works, rebooting the computer often works too, or turning an option off in the bios, or tweaking a setting to skip an iteration of a loop resulting in a segfault, but all of these things are simply ritual rather than engineering, and I'd assume of all audiences, this would be keenly aware of that fact and pursue alternative avenues?

    Where is the genetic engineering? Basal metabolic rate restructuring, genuine "I don't want to waste time on bullshit like jumping up and down when I could be writing code, but I don't want to die of a heart attack before I can accomplish what I'm aiming for either" type entries? I really find this embrace of the membership of the proletariat to be quite strange.

  818. Hmmm? by Etherael · · Score: 1

    This continuously confuses me. So you've created a system to achieve a particular goal, let's say you made yourself a router out of an old 386 box back in 1995 and whacked two ethernet cards and a 56k modem in the system to serve as a rudimentary firewall for research purposes. As time goes by, do you continue to maintain your esoteric and outdated bygone relic of prior eras, because that's the way that it's always been done? The obvious answer is that no, you replace it with some other technology better suited to meeting the goal of the original system, either a virtual system on a higher powered computer that you can sandbox with or a cheap wrt54g router attached to a dsl2 line for internet access, or probably both if you're anything like me. We're engineers, hackers, technical masters, call us what you will, but we have a particular philosophy that always seemed to be fundamentally disconnected to that of the everyday sheeple that make up the vast majority of the human population, engaging in meaningless ritual to placate some imagined deity and achieve a circumspect goal related only vaguely to the actual action in question as almost the sole defining factor of their lives. Why here though, are we just the same? Our bodies are just machines, like the tools and creations we tinker and modify without care as to ritual, and yet we insist on behaving just like the plebs when it comes to this facet of our lives, going through the ritual of diet and exercise to achieve the goal of health. Yes it works, rebooting the computer often works too, or turning an option off in the bios, or tweaking a setting to skip an iteration of a loop resulting in a segfault, but all of these things are simply ritual rather than engineering, and I'd assume of all audiences, this would be keenly aware of that fact and pursue alternative avenues? Where is the genetic engineering? Basal metabolic rate restructuring, genuine "I don't want to waste time on bullshit like jumping up and down when I could be writing code, but I don't want to die of a heart attack before I can accomplish what I'm aiming for either" type entries? Who has retrofitted a virus with genetic mods to delay insulin release or some weird stuff like that?

  819. your problem..... by synchronous0987 · · Score: 1

    Calisthenics are not your answer, you need to burn off carbs. repetitive exercises are the way, eg. cycling, jogging, swimming.

  820. Re:Tai Chi by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Heartily agree. The downside is that you would have to actually go to a teacher for 3-6 months to learn the "form". The upside is that you get a complete exercise system that takes you about 10-15 minutes to do and tones every muscle you ever had.

  821. Here's what I do: by jgarra23 · · Score: 1

    daily:
    100 situps
    50 pushups
    50 pullups

    in the morning for two reasons, 1 to get it out of the way & 2 for stamina/endurance purposes.

    I also have a treadmill in my living room and some free-weights next to my couch. If I'm ever not doing anything (watching the boob tube) I'm either pumping iron or on the treadmill.

    I was ~150 all my life until my wife & I started having kids then I BALLOONED up to 210. I was a bit lean @150 and round @210. These days I'm at my perfect weight, 165, I look great and I've gained TONS of self-confidence from the way I look.

  822. Found a quick workout routine from Best Life by Aelcyx · · Score: 1

    I found this from a publication in our "reading room" (bathroom) at work:
    http://www.bestlifeonline.com/cms/publish/health-fitness/Get_Back_in_the_Game_printer.shtml

    You'll need free weights and a bench, at least. However, as for running, it gives this tidbit: "A recent study of cyclists at McMaster University, in Canada, found that those who exercised intensely for just 18 minutes a day (four 30-second bursts of all-out cycling separated by four minutes of active rest) experienced the same gains in performance as cyclists who pedaled continuously for two hours a day."

    Sounds promising, though I've just started.