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Comments · 16
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Re:RMS is right
Jono Bacon really? He sounds, and looks, like a total asshole.
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Re:Why is this a problem?
By the way, here's how Jono Bacon responded to the criticism from Stallman.
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Re:Touch input
They are not caring for Unity right now, it's not a touch UI. They ported it to work on fundamentals first, like power consumption. Touch interface is a topic for later. http://www.jonobacon.org/2012/10/26/ubuntu-core-on-the-nexus-7/
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Re:Finally!
"A core goal for Ubuntu 13.04 is to get Ubuntu running on a Nexus 7 tablet. To be clear, this is not going to be a tablet Unity interface running on the 8/16GB Nexus 7, but instead will focus on getting the current Ubuntu Desktop running on the Nexus so that we can ensure pieces such as the kernel, power management and other related areas are working effectively on a tablet device.
Topics such as battery life, memory footprint, and support for sensors are all areas in which needs and expectations vary widely between a PC and a mobile devices. The 13.04 cycle will very much be focused on this exploration and learning and this is why we want to focus our efforts on getting the existing Ubuntu Desktop running on the Nexus 7. This will mean that some user-facing parts of the experience won’t make a lot of sense on the tablet, but we want to get the foundations optimized before we focus on these higher level challenges."
http://www.jonobacon.org/2012/10/26/ubuntu-core-on-the-nexus-7/
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Re:I know people are laughing, but...
How many applications have Apple personally certified that they work well on Mac? Or Canonical for Ubuntu? Oh right, they don't.
It would be nice if you only spoke things that you knew were true.
New Applications added to the Ubuntu Software Center go through the Ubuntu Application Review Process; Which is "a community-driven Application Review Board that is committed to providing high quality reviews of applications submitted by application authors to ensure they are safe and work well."
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Re:Ubuntu is *NOT* ditching gnome
Nobody wants to hear what Jono has to say...
There is going to be some questions about this decision in relation to GNOME. I want to make something crystal clear: Ubuntu is GNOME distribution, we ship the GNOME stack, we will continue to ship GNOME apps, and we optimize Ubuntu for GNOME. The only difference is that Unity is a different shell for GNOME, but we continue to support the latest GNOME Shell development work in the Ubuntu archives.
Jono Bacon from http://www.jonobacon.org/2010/10/25/ubuntu-11-04-to-ship-unity/
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Ubuntu is *NOT* ditching gnome
There is going to be some questions about this decision in relation to GNOME. I want to make something crystal clear: Ubuntu is GNOME distribution, we ship the GNOME stack, we will continue to ship GNOME apps, and we optimize Ubuntu for GNOME. The only difference is that Unity is a different shell for GNOME, but we continue to support the latest GNOME Shell development work in the Ubuntu archives.
Jono Bacon from http://www.jonobacon.org/2010/10/25/ubuntu-11-04-to-ship-unity/
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Re:Good job Mark, you've overcomplicated it ...
You can sell GPL3 works. Not sure what your point is.
His point is probably that upstream (X.org, freedesktop) is using the MIT (X11) license, which is "incompatible" with GPLv3. This means that none of this effort will ever become "the standard", because it has zero chance of going upstream.
Add to that the observation that this is yet another example of Canonical adopting a Develop First, Publish Later strategy (or where launchpad is the upstream, and it's hard to see this as a good thing. I want to add that the release announcement was done on a launchpad list, not on a freedesktop list.
So Canonical is again isolating itself from the community. It seems like only yesterday that there was a public flamewar about Gnome contributions from Canonical. All sophistry aside, from their actions it's clear that they are an Open Source company, not a Free Software company. I fear the real problems for them will come a few years down the road, when upstream has changed in (for them) incompatible ways and the burden of maintaining their "proprietary" additions becomes too much to handle. If they can pull it off, more power to them, but for me this is yet another example of how Canonical "doesn't get it".
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actually
I think poor Marky (insert underlying vocal connotations of tribalism) is just upset that people think they don't contribute anything. Here is a quote from an article Mark linked to:
Likewise, I don't think it is fair to undermine Canonical's contributions just because many of them exist outside of GNOME.
I personally think that this IS fair. If they are going off on their own implementing features outside the mainline GNOME project and those associated development routes then that is there prerogative but we absolutely can undermine their work. Any extra work they do just for the whims of their project is going to be by reality less useful to others. The argument can be made that GNOME could be more accepting of the work and interest of others - which in the end they do try to move their additions upstream... Also the definition and application of the word "contribution" is made vague since these contributions are to their community and not to GNOME. As a related side note: this issue of upstream changes and doing what they want to on their own is the VERY reason why I like using Fedora.
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The logo typeface needs to be explained
It appears to be an edited rip of Aakash Soneri's Sone. (A comparison: Sone is teal, the new logo face is wine, where it overlaps is cobalt blue.) The changes appear to be as insubstantial as adding a slant to ascenders and shifting the baselines of some of the glyphs.
If Canonical modified Sone, didn't license it, and they start freely distributing it ("our global community will still maintain access to the resources needed to construct logos that use the branding" - so either the modified glyphs for the logo as svg, or the modified font itself), that's a dick move.
And if they did license it, then why is an open-source project licensing commercial fonts and calling it a reflection of the project?
Maybe it's a placeholder - who knows? Canonical doesn't say anything about the font's origin or license in the linked documentation, nor does Canonical's Jono Bacon in his nearly identical announcement.
But it is disappointing to see an open source project - whose community already made LGPL-licensed typefaces for their current logo - make and publicize such a half-assed effort, even in a preliminary stage, without any explanation on the decision.
When you say, as an organization based on community contribution:
"We wanted Ubuntu to reflect the precision and engineering that sits at the heart of the product. The new logo reflects this but not at the expense of the immediately recognisable circle of friends."
And you follow that with a logo that's based on a commercial typeface, you're reneging on that intent in at least one of two ways:
- You're disrespecting the designer of the commercial font by modifying it and refusing to give credit - if it's licensed correctly at all;
- You're disrespecting the open-source community, which includes professional designers who've went to bat for you in the past.
Even if Sone was correctly licensed, and Canonical got permission to modify it for their logo and future redistribution, why not get it from the community?
And if it wasn't licensed correctly, then is Ubuntu following the lead of Arial and just ripping things off in a legal but unethical manner when they can't find what they want in a convenient license?
(And maybe it's a coincidence - a really bad coincidence that still should be fixed. Without any explanation, nobody can tell.)
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Damn unions
Trust them to strike right when I'm travelling down. http://www.jonobacon.org/?p=718
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Lugradio
Lugradio is a fortnightly British radio show that takes a relaxed, humorous look at Linux and open source. Has useful and informative features such as "What the Fook Book Truck", "Hype or Shite". Hosted by Jono Bacon and some others. Language will probably offend.
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Conquer them with music
Jono Bacon is also the author of an excellent death metal remix of the Free Software Song.
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Re:even our music . . .
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Re:Don't forget the GNU song!
jwz calls that song "Why cooperation with RMS is impossible", and points to a techno and a death metal remixes.
MT
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Re:OpenBSD 3.4 song?
Shit, slashdot broke my url, here's with tags:
rms remix