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Gestures With Multitouch In Ubuntu 10.10
jitendraharlalka writes "Mark Shuttleworth recently announced on his blog that the first cut of Canonical's UTouch framework is ready and will be available in Ubuntu Maverick. He goes on to talk about the development of 'touch language' by the design team. The 'touch language' will allow the chaining of basic gestures to create complex gestures. The approach is quite different from the single magic gestures implemented elsewhere. In Maverick, a few Gtk applications will support gesture-based scrolling."
Maybe I can stop using the same gesture when my wifi card does not work.
Other than specialty devices, hardware support is not even on the map.
I believe W7 already supports multitouch, joining the mac bandwagon. So, how long until non-laptops, non-cellphones start shipping with that, so that we can see an explosion in programmer response and API's?
Oh, and while we wait, it'd be good to find where I can buy a USB pad currently to add multi-touch support for a Windows desktop. Thanks
Right up there with that decade old troll post about Rob Malda having his dick and nuts cut off for his homosexual lover.
Having tried multitouch, it's useless in the long term. It is a nice gimmick to show in an advertisement, but for using it for longer than 15 minutes at a time, it's not a good idea -- you'll hand will get sore in no time.
Even for mobile devices, there is simply no better thing than the good old keyboard. If you try the on-screen touch thingy on an iPad or most Androids, it may be enough for typing a single line of text. On an N900 with a proper physical keyboard, you're in good shape after several hours of typing. And since you can't have that many distinct gestures, traditional keyboard shortcuts are so much better.
The creatures outside looked from Alt-Right to Antifa; but already it was impossible to say which was which.
So ... as a hint ... if you want to copy Apple ... good for you, no problem with that I'm all for it ... but maybe you might want to consider WHY they do so well.
And ... GPLv3 so I have to wait for something with license I can use safely in anything because I'm not going to be bothered to learn another SDK and framework that I can only use in apps that I give away. I know I can't give away the only other real alternative out there but I don't care because I can sell those apps and make a fortune.
If you want people to use things like this then maybe you want to look at why people like the existing ones and why so many apps exist for the existing frameworks ... People don't use the iPhone and love its multitouch because of its 'tech specs', developers nor users.
Persistent Volume manager for Kubernetes - https://github.com/dwimsey/openshift-pvmanager
where I can buy a USB pad currently to add multi-touch support for a Windows desktop. Thanks
From Wacom. I have one of these, and use it on a Windows system. I haven't plugged it into my Lucid system...yet.
I need trepanation like I need a hole in the head.
How about an ARM netbook with Ubuntu on it! Would't that be better than multi-touch? You could even sell it of your website and make some cash out of it! Who knows it may even sell so well shops may want to stock it? putting Linux into public eye.
None of those are "foisted" on you, jackass. You can install Kubuntu or Xubuntu if you want KDE or XFCE. You can disable 3D effects with great ease as well. You haven't even tried looking, have you?
I agree with you generally. The number of fixes and workarounds that ubuntu has spawned and then obsolesced is simply painful. But: compiz at least has gotten better. i've enabled it now and use it during presentations with a wireless mouse. rotate desktop cube and on-screen annotation are especially cool (and useful!) although sadly I haven't gotten to use "paint fire on the screen" yet. :)
It generally uses between 0-3% of one core of my outdated cpu (1.6GHz, L7500), and is fairly stable.
Can I get the companion release: Ubuntu Iceman?
I believe it was right around $1000, looked ridiculously like an iMAC and ran Win 7. I remember touching it at the store and being like "wow, now if this was only useful...."
There's a secret gesture that will earn you extra lives if you punch it in fast enough during boot up...
They are introducing multi-touch in 10.10 because in 11.04 the close and minimize buttons
will run around the borders of your windows and you'll need two hands to catch them.
This is much better than the current 10.04 "Memory" min-game where you try to remember which side the buttons are on.
There are still a boat load of everyday things that should be addressed before they start to put too much effort in bleeding edge technologies that may never actually come to market.
Uhm, Compiz useless? Have you tried it on a computer with a semi-decent graphics card but a lousy CPU? Even on a modern one, without Compiz you often have to wait until windows draw themselves whenever you switch desktops -- with Compiz, it's instanteous. The worst hardware I've seen it on a P4-era Celeron with an nVidia 5600 -- and the speed gains from Compiz there are just insane.
If it takes 100% CPU, this means you don't have 3D acceleration in working order -- or that you tried to turn on every single gimmick at the same time. The whole point of Compiz is to use the GPU not CPU. Once a window is drawn, it is stored in the texture memory, which means it can be displayed without the main CPU's help. This happens to be what makes switching desktops that fast.
Gnome vs KDE is another story... and with all of Gnome's downsides, I'd say KDE currently can't hold a candle to it; it's an emacs-vs-vi thing, though.
The creatures outside looked from Alt-Right to Antifa; but already it was impossible to say which was which.
While I don't buy much of the multitouch hype out there, the number of devices supporting multitouch is increasing and Ubuntu/Debian/Linux/etc. can grow best in a growing market. From a business and user attraction perspective, market growth IS the map battle lines are drawn upon .
I was initially skeptical about the Lenovo S10-3t that we got for my wife and it's touch interface but I've learned to like it. Perhaps we're so down on multitouch because it's still underdeveloped in Winblows 7 etc. Like mentioned in other comments, nothing will replace the rapid input available from the good ol' keyboard, but a new form of input has proven useful in my experience. There were critics of the mouse, originally, for much the same reasons that others are arguing here. This new dynamic of input can be more direct than a mouse and more intuitive and available than a keyboard. This is good especially for novice computer users.
The size of the iCrap App world and alternative input methods (Wii and other accelerometer technology) demonstrates that this IS an exploding area. The argument that this wont catch on in the desktop world doesn't hold either: the netbook flavor of Ubuntu exists for a narrow purpose and I expect this feature will exist in a similar narrow, non-core niche. I don't think that this is too much of 'jumping on the bandwagon' and I'm excited by the idea of chained commands to make multitouch more meaningful. Then again, I'm an idiot.....
...... and idiots rule the world....
Gestures are great when used on the screen (as in an iDevice). They feel natural... like you are interacting with a physical picture or list. I am am a bit baffled about how using gestures with my computer will improve the interaction. **Shrugs shoulders**
You can't show me ANY OS that meets that criteria. Windows certainly doesn't, but Mandriva Linux comes closest. It certainly supports all your hardware and when you plug a new device in it helpfully offers to grab the driver and support software and install it. It takes longer to install Windows than Mandriva, and when you are done installing Windows your job has just begun, since you still don't have any useful applications installed. With Mandriva I follow a few simple prompts and when I am done pretty much every application I could want is already installed, and it is easy as point and click to put anything else I might want on it. Seriously, the 1990s called and they want their Anti-Linux troll back.
Guns don't kill people; Physics kills people! - John Lithgow as Dick Solomon on Third Rock From The Sun
Hey, the RT2700 and open source Nvidia drivers are shagged sideways in 10.04 again but fuck fixing that legacy shit, right, because we can focus on adding bells and whistles for hardware that two, maybe three of the actual competent devs and testers currently own! Rock on, buddy!
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My older (but still dual-core) yet not officially supported motherboard, disagrees.
As does my SB-Live 5.1 Surround card (works with the 3rd-party KX Audio driver if you can find it online, but lots of pops and clicking in various situations due to weird surround emulation)
Stuff like compiz and it's variants on other operating systems remind me of the silliness that was being done with Englightenment in the late 90s. It was silly useless eye candy then and it's silly useless eye candy now despite the fact that it represents a proportionally less waste of system resources. OTOH, an open system allows for anyone to make the experience what they want it to be even if I personally think it shows a total lack of taste.
A Pirate and a Puritan look the same on a balance sheet.
Windows 8 with 3d BSOD gesture out NOW on multitouch
We are now one step closer to a functional Turing test that anybody can use, namely, I can make various gestures to it, saying "I am not touching you!" and it will actually be able to respond to that. Of course, we still have to work on HOW it responds to that in an appropriate manner. I, for one, will welcome our future neurosis afflicted robotic overlords.
...by apple, microsoft or oracle, claiming to have some broad patent on multitouch and/or gestures?
After reading http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=10/08/17/0437242 i'm affraid no big company can make anything innovative, without risking a patent lawsuit.
I downgrade my 10.04 to 9.10 because in 10.04 my touch screen and printers that was supported in 9.10 wasn't. I hope for more hw support in new version not less. We all forget about goodies when basic hardware doesn't works.
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