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something that someone did to someone else 4+ generations ago is not an excuse for your failings/situation today.

No, there is no excuse for anybody's failings/situation today. At the same time, what happened 4+ generations ago still can have an impact on people's lives today, especially when institutionalized racism (ie, segregation, etc.) still existed ~1-2 generations ago. Also, while no longer government sanctioned, there is still widespread , organized racism in the U.S.

Ultimately, the fate of anybody is in their own hands, but that fact does not absolve the rest of society from any responsibility. In the end, though, there needs to be some kind of balance between the attitude of "It's their problem, they should deal with it" and the attitude of "It's all the fault of the white man and group X can do no wrong."

>>>OK, you might argue that the communists and fascists don't have a voice

Bzzz. Even assholes have the right to free speech in the United States - http://www.americanfascistmovement.com/ - http://www.kkk.com/

>>>it appears this may relate to information that could be used to threaten the judge in the SHAC trial, the trial of some pretty unpleasant and violent people

This organization is ALSO unpleasant and violent, but the U.S. still allows its website to exist: http://www.kkk.bz/ http://www.kkk.com/ - "Is the election of Obama shocking to us? Not at all! ...The president elect now stands as a symbol to our people throughout this nation that change is indeed coming. What will it mean for those who are being disenfranchised from the very nation purchased by the blood of their forefathers? It could mean an awakening of our spirit and blood. Every time the television shows an image of Obama it will be a reminder that our people have lost power in this country. ...The betrayal will stare them in the face each time they watch the news and see little black children playing in the rose garden."

Disgusting.

But every person has the right to exercise their OWN mouth and offer-up their opinions, no matter how offensive. We should punish those individuals who commit violence, but the non-violent persons should remain free. "No man has a right to harm another. And that is all that the government should restrain him." - Founder of the Democratic Party, Thomas Jefferson

Suppose Flickr decided to remove any pictures of black people or catholics, do you think they would be exercising legitimate property rights? Do you think that they could get away with it?

Yes, and maybe. There might be issues about blacks because they have a special protected status under a variety of civil rights laws; Catholics have no such protected status. How many pictures of black people would you expect to find on this site? Do you think the Klan is somehow not allowed to have a website because of their beliefs?

The bigger "maybe" concerns what would happen once people discovered that Flickr was doing this. Don't you think it would become a matter of public controversy?

Between the trolls, complete loons, insane geological theories, loons engaging in revisionist history, bad biological science, and racists. Clearly because some parts of the internet are bad, the entire thing is totally worthless. But if you say this sort of thing, you get shouted down by people who've drunk Tim Berners-Lee's kool-aid. Clearly the logical course of action is to spend my time loudly complaining about how awful the Internet is, how anyone posting content to the web is wasting their time, and how only a web-cultist would claim that even though the web is flawed that there is any value to it.

So you'd like free handouts for Drugs as well? Like I said before, Government doing Medicare is a BAD idea.

It is a crappy idea. Social Security has a huge funding gap that will only be fixed by reducing benefits and raising taxes. Individual Accounts can only work if the money removed form the Social Security revenue stream by these accounts is either accounted for by reducing benefits, or raising taxes.

So throwing more money at it will fix it huh? Yeah. Ok. NOT.

You and Bush are hypocrits. If freeing people form tyranny through force is a good foreign policy, we need to invade Pakistan where a military dictator is in charge who overthru the democratically elected government. Oh, and China, and North Korea, much of Africa, and most of the rest of the Middle East.

Ah, but they have not invaded another country, lost, and agreed to things to end the hostility. Saddam didn't do what he said. So, when do you say "enough is enough"??

It is not the right thing to do because by the justification for war in Iraq the United States must be invading a lot more contries. If you agree that the US should invade the countries I described above, plus more I cannot think of now, then maybe your opinion is internally consistent. As is you are probably insane.

Another reason why I don't like Democrats. You pander being the party that is inclusive, yet look at your statements. You probably a card carrying member of the Ku Klux Klan.

Excellent troll. I admire your style, one line of genuinely insightfull comment on legal jurisdictions, followed by 2 lines of "I hate frogs" jingoistic rethoric. I'm impressed.

Of course, the fact that france is enforcing an anti-nazi law is quite surprising.

Its not like they were ever, you know, invaded and occupied by Nazis or anything, right?
I'm surprised that years of deprivation under Nazi occupation could leave any stigma like that...who'd have thought?

the anti-jewish hatred that runs rampant in france.

Yup, them frogs sure are racist!

poodle.com
noodle.com
doodle.com
kugel.com
fluegel.de
kkk.com

(that last one just because it's always good to sue them over anything, and it feels so good too)

• Jewish Task Force
• National Alliance
• The Knights Party

Why hasn't the KKK been targetted in the war on terror? They've been terrorizing our nation for more than 100 years, and they're very public.

Right On Brother!!!

Welcome to the New Klan

This fp has been claimed for the Ku Klux Klan! DIE NIGGERS! Fuck the niggers! Die! WHITE POWER!

So why don't we make just bomb the hell out of the countries that jobs are outsourced to, close our borders, and purify our nation once again.

You are all sounding a little too much like some other not so popular websites. If you suck at your job or someone can do it cheaper or better, then you're not going to keep your job. Blame whoever you want to, ever think maybe it was YOU who was YOUR problem?

Hail Führer.... Führer

Allow me to explain.

Alan Cox; Richard Stallman; Bruce Perens; Wichert Akkerman; Miguel DeIcaza.

What do you see in this list of names? Are there any African-Americans on it? Absolutely not, none of those names sound like one a self-respecting black person would have! No Maurice, no Luther, no Lil' Kim. There are many other lists such as this, you can see one here. Flip through each page, do you see anything other than white faces? Of course you don't, because Open Source and its adherents are ardent racists and they absolutely forbid access to the sacred 'kernel' by any person of color.

Lets look at another list, this time a compendium of the companies using Linux. Are there any black owned companies on that list? Nooooooo. How about these companies? They all have something to do with Open Source software, any of them owned by an African-American? No again. Here is an extensive collection of photographs from a LUG (Linux User Gathering) meeting, more can be viewed at that link. What is odd about these pictures, and every other photograph I have ever seen of a LUG meeting, is that there is not one single black person to be seen, and probably none for miles.

More racist overtones can be found by examining the language of Open Source. They often refer to 'white hat' hackers. These 'white hats' scurry about the Internet doing good, but illegal, acts for their fellow man. In stark contrast we find the 'black hat' hackers. They destroy the good works of others by breaking into systems, stealing data, and generally causing havoc. These two terms reflect the mindset of most Linux developers. White means good, black means bad. Anywhere there is black, there is uncontrollable destruction and lawlessness. Looking further we see black lists that inform other users of 'bad' hardware, Samba, an obvious play on the much hated Little Black Sambo book, Mandrake, which I won't explain except to say that the French are notorious racists. This type is linguistic discrimination is widespread throughout the Open Source culture, lampooned by many of its more popular sites.

It is also a fact that all Unix 'distros' contain a plethora of racist commands with not so hidden symbolism.

It can hardly be coincidence that the prime operating system of choice of the 'open source supremacists' - Linux, features commands which are poorly disguised racist acronyms. For example: 'awk' (All White Klan) , 'sed' (shoot nEgroes dead), 'ln' (lynch negroes), 'rpm' (raical purity mandatory), 'bash' (bring a slave home), 'ps' (persecute sambo), 'mount' (murder or unseat nubians today), 'fsck' (favored supreme Christian klan). I could go on and on about the latent racist symbolism in Linux, but I fear it would take weeks to enumerate every incidence.

Is there a single unix command out there that does not have some hidden racist connotation ? Suffice it to say that the racism pervades Linux like a particularly bad smell. Can you imagine the effect of running such a racist operating system on the impressionable mind ? I don't have to remind you that transmitting subliminal messages is banned in the USA, and yet here we have an operating system that appears to be one enormous submliminal ad for the Klan!

One of the few selling points of Open Source software is that it is available in many different languages. Browsing through the list I see that absolutely none are offered in Swahili, nor Ebonics. Obviously this is done to prevent black people from having access to the kernel. If it weren't for the fact that racism is so blatantly evil I would be impressed by the efforts these Open Sourcers have invested in keeping their little hobby lilly white. It even appears that they hate the Japanese, as some of these self proclaimed hackers defaced a web site with anti-Japanese slogans. Hell, these people even go all the way to Africa (South Africa mind you, better known as White Africa) and the pictures prove that they don't even get close to a black person.

Of course, presenting overwhelming evidence such as this is a bit unfair without some attempt to determine why these Open Sourcers are so racist. Much of the evidence I have collected indicates that their views are so deeply held that they are seldom questioned by the new recruits. This, coupled with the robot-like groupthink that dominates the culture allows the racist mindset to continue to permeate the ranks. Indeed, the Open Source version of a Klan rally, OSDN (known to the world as Open Source Developer's Network, known to insiders as Open Source Denies Negroes) nearly stands up and shouts its racist views on its demographics page. It doesn't mention the black man one single time. Obviously, anyone involved with Open Source doesn't need to be told that the demographic is entirely white, it is a given.

I have a sneaking suspicion as to why their beliefs are so closely held: they are all terrible athletes.

Really. Much like the tragedy at Columbine High School, where two geeks went on a rampage to get back at 'jocks', these adult geeks still bear the emotional scars inflicted upon them due to their lack of athletic ability during their teen years. As African-Americans are well known for their athletic skills, they are an obvious target for the Open Source geeks. As we all know, sports builds character, thus it follows that the lack of sports destroys character. These geeks, locked away in their rooms, munching on stale pizza and Fritos, engage in no character building activities. Further, they interact only with computers and never develop the level of social skill that allows normal people to handle relationships with persons of color.

Contrasted with the closed source, non-geeky software house Microsoft, Open Source has a long, long way to go.

Join me in my next article where I will lay bare the rampant anti-semitism in the Open Source community.

Thanks for the translation, Djaak. You must be from Algeria with a name like Djaak. Now TRANSLATE THIS.