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Re:Perhaps a better method...
The sarcasm you missed because you don't know what "man" is. Man is an OS command that holds no information on programming languages. Or did you not know that either?
Obviously you never used >man or programmed in c under any *nix."
man page (short for manual page) is a form of software documentation usually found on a Unix or Unix-like operating system. Topics covered include computer programs (including library and system calls), formal standards and conventions, and even abstract concepts.
Man 2 is for system calls. Man 3 is for library functions, lots of c stuff in both. And there are whole sections on other programming languages. Try man perl to see what comes up. LOTS of information for programming in perl. There's also interesting and informative sections on programming with bash, sed, awk, etc. With enough background, you don't need the internet - the man pages and source code should be enough, even for multi-threaded programming in c.
As an example, the opening man page for perl. The man page for perl regular expressions.
The man 2 intro page:
Name
intro - introduction to system calls
Description
Section 2 of the manual describes the Linux system calls. A system call is an entry point into the Linux kernel. Usually, system calls are not invoked directly: instead, most system calls have corresponding C library wrapper functions which perform the steps required (e.g., trapping to kernel mode) in order to invoke the system call. Thus, making a system call looks the same as invoking a normal library function.
For a list of the Linux system calls, see syscalls(2).
Return Value
On error, most system calls return a negative error number (i.e., the negated value of one of the constants described in errno(3)). The C library wrapper hides this detail from the caller: when a system call returns a negative value, the wrapper copies the absolute value into the errno variable, and returns -1 as the return value of the wrapper.
The value returned by a successful system call depends on the call. Many system calls return 0 on success, but some can return nonzero values from a successful call. The details are described in the individual manual pages.
In some cases, the programmer must define a feature test macro in order to obtain the declaration of a system call from the header file specified in the man page SYNOPSIS section. (Where required, these feature test macros must be defined before including any header files.) In such cases, the required macro is described in the man page. For further information on feature test macros, see feature_test_macros(7).
Conforming To
Certain terms and abbreviations are used to indicate UNIX variants and standards to which calls in this section conform. See standards(7).
Notes
Calling directly
In most cases, it is unnecessary to invoke a system call directly, but there are times when the Standard C library does not implement a nice wrapper function for you. In this case, the programmer must manually invoke the system call using syscall(2). Historically, this was also possible using one of the _syscall macros described in _syscall(2).
Authors and copyright conditions
Look at the header of the manual page source for the author(s) and copyright conditions. Note that these can be different from page to page! See Also
_syscall(2), syscall(2), syscalls(2), errno(3), intro(3), capabilities(7), credentials(7), feature_test_macros(7), mq_overview(7), path_resolution(7), pipe(7), pty(7), sem_overview(7), shm_overview(7), signal(7), socket(7), standards(7), svipc(7), symlink(7), time(7)
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hylafax-log(5),
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who uses PERL
"For software of any appreciable size, Perl has unfortunately died in industry. People just aren't using it for anything more than 10-line throwaway scripts"
"Large and high profile websites using Perl include: Slashdot, The Internet Movie Database, Amazon.com, CMPnet technical magazines ... -
So you're in Melbourne...
Great!
Lovely city, that's why I live here :-)
We have a thriving user group community, with a large lug (LUV) and a big wireless networking group among others, get involved and you will get work out of it if you're good (that's how I got the job I'm writing this at). -
Re:Everybody is the copycat
OLVWM has had this feature for yonks (some time before GNOME and KDE got off the ground) - screenshot here http://www.luv.asn.au/overheads/wm/olvwm/olvwm_fe
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Not quite...Average of runnable tasks count get you the load.
Not quite: the load average also takes into account processes in uninterruptible sleep states (i.e. waiting for disk i/o).
While we're on the subject, I found this interesting: the load average isn't your average average.
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The Sinkbitch on /.
http://www.luv.asn.au/overheads/linuxconfau.html For those who don't know daniel personally. (and yes that is Linus' autograph in the middle even if it's not as cool as my OpenBSD shirt signed by Linus)
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Re:v6 could help solve some net problemsBetter still, bring back the old BOOTP protocol? Which if I'm not mistaken just simply keeps a database of MAC addresses to IP Addresses (manually entered),
An IPv6 address includes the 64 bit MAC address.
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Its more to do with all software
Its not just all database software, its all software, I am a member of Linux Users Victoria and out our last monthly meeting a person from MySQL get to do a presentation, here is a quote "Although we would like to take over the world, we just like to make good software, and also, we cant really take over the world because oracle is very good at being oracle, and Microsoft are VERY good at being Microsoft." But this shows that the capitalist arguments against free software are a) wrong b) biased c) thought in denial.
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Re:"Linux Advocate"
Some lame Australian online journal?
The Age is a creditable Melbourne newspaper. Not just an online journal. That's not to say that everything they publish is brilliant. Neither do I think Rick Moen is anything special, although he does post regularly to our local LUG (Linux Users of Victoria) so it's not surprising that a local journalist (who's also a member of the LUG) decided to interview him.
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Re:PS2 Linux Dev Kits?If you wish to find out a bit more and couldn't make AGDC for whatever reason you can still catch them in Melbourne if you're quick. Read on for details taken from the Linux Users of Victoria webpage
On Tuesday 10th of December at 7pm, LUV will be holding a
meeting on programming for linux on Playstation 2 hardware.
It will be presented by Sarah Ewen, from Sony.
This talk should be similar to the one given on Sunday at
11 am at the Australian Game Developers Conference
http://www.agdc.com.au/sched.php.
The address is the same as where the programmers SIG normally
hold their meetings.
myinternet
Level 8, Blackwood House
14-20 Blackwood Street, North Melbourne
Melway reference: 2B 9A
All welcome.
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Because exhibiting costs too damn much!
Ever been involved with a company who has exhibited at such a trade show? It gets expensive. Thousands upon thousands of dollars and that's for a *small* booth.
I don't have exact figures, there doesn't seem to be anything on the website. I do know that for the big IT trade show in Melbourne last year (they cancelled it this year due to lack of attendance because nobody was exhibiting because it costs so much and they don't get return on investment), the Linux Users of Victoria had a free booth along with the Melbourne PC user group. -
We get our venue from IBM
The Linux Users of Victoria currently have our venue donated by IBM. IBM have a Linux marketing manager (Katie Axam, we love you) who fielded our request for a venue.
The venue is amazing - its in the corporate headquarters of Telstra, out countries telecommunications monopoly. Its around three stories tall, and has a projection screen that's around two stories, radio mikes, and even video recording facilities - its amazing to speak at, If you know what you're going to talk about, you can simply walk around the stage talking to the audience and pointing at things on your presentation using your hands or a laser pointer if you want, because you're not tethered to your laptop - its simply feels a lot more natural. IBM even provide light refreshments before the meeting.
As a result, they've made 1300 Linux users, many of whom are professional network / systems administrators and coders, quite partial to IBM.
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Re:Dead?
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I know this is a troll, but ...
No offense, but the odds of you finding one thousand computer users willing to keep Linux on their desktop for everyday use is also next to ZERO.
Gee, it would probably take me so long to look up a few Linux Users Group pages and ask who uses Linux for a desktop. There can't be any of them out there
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Re:Kernel Hackers
I know he isn't a kernel hacker, but i use KDE as my primary desktop so...
The other day, the games-sig of my local LUG (The Linux Gamers League) held a LAN here in Melbourne. One of the people that turned up, to my surprise at least, was Sirtaj Singh Khan, aka Taj, one of the KDE developers (he wrote KView, along with contributing code to various other parts of the KDE Project).
I took the opportunity there and then to walk up to him, and to thank him for providing me with what (IMHO) is a better desktop system than some of the more commercial efforts out there. (and yes, i know that KDE has it's fair share of bugs, but i don't care. It works for me). He had a lot of interesting things to say about the future of KDE and where he thought that Linux should be going. I could quite happily have given up all the gaming that day, just for the 15-20 minutes that i got to speak with him.
So, yes, if you ever get the opportunity to meet an author of the open source software you use, then say thank you, especially because these guys aren't getting paid to write this stuff. -
Promoting Linux - Help out gamers!
Well as for promoting Linux, we're trying.
I'm a member of the Linux Users of Victoria (here in Australia) and our Games Sig does all it can to help people run games on their Linux platform. From helping people simply install Linux, helping with driver issues and configuration, general information about games and hardware, and of course, fragging each other silly in LANs.
As it is, we're running a LAN soon called Blast Radius 3 that is catering specifically to gaming under Linux. We're allowing Windows and Mac users as well, but the idea is to showcase Linux as a Gamers Platform, and give them a taste of all the things we can do under Linux.
So do your part, Linux gamers. Organise a special interest group specifically for Games at your User Group. Start organising Tech Nights to help people get their systems up and running, informal and then formal LANs, and help other people catch the fever that is Linux Gaming.
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Promoting Linux - Help out gamers!
Well as for promoting Linux, we're trying.
I'm a member of the Linux Users of Victoria (here in Australia) and our Games Sig does all it can to help people run games on their Linux platform. From helping people simply install Linux, helping with driver issues and configuration, general information about games and hardware, and of course, fragging each other silly in LANs.
As it is, we're running a LAN soon called Blast Radius 3 that is catering specifically to gaming under Linux. We're allowing Windows and Mac users as well, but the idea is to showcase Linux as a Gamers Platform, and give them a taste of all the things we can do under Linux.
So do your part, Linux gamers. Organise a special interest group specifically for Games at your User Group. Start organising Tech Nights to help people get their systems up and running, informal and then formal LANs, and help other people catch the fever that is Linux Gaming.
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Microsoft Aus. Recruiting from Linux User Groups
Yes, this is genuine. I'm a committe member for Linux users of Victoria This was recently sent to out committee. I've removed the email addresses to prevent harassment of the people involved.
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 13:42:50 -0800
From: Holly Lindsey
To: "'XXX@luv.asn.au'"
Subject: Networking Heaven
Hello,
My name is Holly Lindsey and I am a recruiter with Microsoft in the US.
First, I want to apologize if it is inappropriate to approach your
organization. I understand lovers of Linux/Unix sometimes don't have much
love for Microsoft, but I'd like to get this information out to ALL the
serious software developers.
We will be conducting interviews in Sydney in March for the Windows Core
Networking team. I have a deep respect for users of Linux/Unix and know they
are sometimes the most hard core devoted programmers out there. We are
looking for the best and brightest to join our team to produce the next
generation of Windows. The Windows Core Networking team is responsible for
building the next generation networking for Windows workstation and server
platforms. This includes high performance network interfaces and transports,
networking services that provide security, load balancing, scalable
multicast capabilities and seamless wireless LAN experience, and
technologies to make networking self configuring, self diagnosing and self
healing. This group works with Windows Workstation (Consumer and Professional) and Server teams to ensure that these products are second to
none in networking offerings. For more information about this product see
their site at: http://microsoft.com/windows/default.asp.
If you would be interested in learning more about our opportunities in this
area, please don't hesitate to contact me directly at hollyl@microsoft.com
and check out our web site at http://www.microsoft.com/jobs/intl.
Sincerely,
Holly Lindsey
Associate Recruiter, International
Microsoft Corporation
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Re:Linux User Groups
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Not just exhibitors, geeks n games too!
One of the events being held at ace2k is a "Geek Party". Among other things, they plan to have multiplayer games there.
I've been asked to provide the PCs for these games. Hmmm, since they don't want any windows machines there, I may have to ask my mates to lend a hand...
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i'll be there!
The friday night will also be the Geek Night Out basically a big party for all the alternative OS geeks.
On a related note, I had a chat to the Acorn/RiscStation guys at InteractIT (a melbourne pc expo) and it was really pleasing to hear that truly alternative systems such as the RiscStation are still out there, despite not getting all the press coverage of Linux or BSD or
Of couse... anyone who went to LUV on tuesday already knows about this... but that would be giving my local LUG a plug... -
Re:Why the hell does Gamespy care about Linux?People just don't use Linux for gaming that much
As the Co-ordinator of the Linux Gamers League (in Australia), I can tell you that there's plenty of call for gaming under Linux.
In fact, we're about to have our fourth event...
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Re:Why the hell does Gamespy care about Linux?People just don't use Linux for gaming that much
As the Co-ordinator of the Linux Gamers League (in Australia), I can tell you that there's plenty of call for gaming under Linux.
In fact, we're about to have our fourth event...
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