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And when millions of downloaders decide to DDOS Aiplex Software you will have no problem with that either. Remember Make Love Not Spam? All we need is a nice screensaver like that and we can DDOS Aiplex right of the internet. The copyright infringers outnumber the copyright holders by millions to one. I'm not sure if what they want is an all out war. DDOS attacks aren't going to solve anyone's problems. All they will do is shut down the internet for everyone. Of course there are some corporations that would love to see that happen.

Sounds like the lycos idea a while back, Make Love not Spam
They justified it by saying that there system didn't saturate the spamming site but throttled back when it used up 95% of the bandwidth in order to drive up the costs making it unproductive. Not fully saturated therefore not DDOS.

The bbc news site also ran an article on it

There are web pages that send a "flash mob" to their sites. You disable your browsers cache and then open the web page and it repeaditly loads images from the 419 sites. If a lot of people have the page open it will consume all of the bandwidth of the 419 sites. Kind of like the Make Love Not Spam screensaver that Lycos made. Essentially by a bunch of people constandly downloading the images from the sites it creates a DDoS attack on the site. I'm not too sure about the legality of an "attack" like this, but it is a cool idea.

I remember reading an article on Slashdot about this specifically about a year or so ago, but a search doesn't bring it up. Essentially, someone wrote a script to do just this.

That is what http://www.makelovenotspam.com/ was trying to do. It was trying to punish those who buy spamvertisement. I personally support Lycos in this effort. I also support http://www.friedspam.com/ and the creator of the Java program located at http://www.plaza1.net/SpamFryer.jar . If ISP's would do their job in reigning in zombie computers and such (simply by blocking port 25 access to the rest of the world by default). Users would not be forced to take drastic action.

Looks like so...i tried opening one spam site mentioned in lycos site (www.moretgage.info) and it took me here: http://www.makelovenotspam.com/intl/index.html

If anyone is interested, this link still works:

http://download2.makelovenotspam.com/screensavers/ MLNS_screensaver_en.exe

Well, http://makelovenotspam.com/intl/ you called it. Don't know if I buy the "reporting me to my isp" line though.

I actually went to the Lycos screensaver site (select Int'l English from the dropdown, and go from there), and it looks to me like they're going after the sites that hire spammers: the online pharmacies, anatomy enhancement companies, and so on.

It also looks like they're not trying to kill the sites, just jack their bandwidth charges through the stratosphere to convince them to stop hiring spammers.

Yeah, its a waste of bandwidth to a certain extent. But then again, if it has the desired effect of convincing even a FEW companies to stop hiring the spammers, I can live with it. To my way of thinking, its kind of like cleaning out your closet or garage: you've got a big mess on your hands while its happening, but when its over, you're ahead of the game. Your view may be different :-)

The latest idea to fight spam comes from www.makelovenotspam.com (browser flash-plugin needed) and LYCOS, who offer a simple screen-saver program for the Windows (english), Macintosh (MacosX (english) and Macos9 (english)) in various languages (english, french, spanish, german,...) which actually surfs the promoted URLs inside spams and generates traffic for the website owners, thus generating costs for the sources of spam, and trying to slow down those sites. The screen-saver promises to only generate about 3megabytes of traffic a day when being used constantly for 24 hours 100% a day. Can we call this a new means of self-justice, or is this a legal means of making spammers pay for their trash they keep sending us? You cannot actually call it DDOSing those sites as each screen-saver only generates a few http-get requests from time to time, and visually displays the spam-servers on a world-map.

The company actually delivers the live real-time spam information via XML files.

I wonder if anybody before got this idea, actually to collect the spam urls and shit inside spams, so that maybe someone could share this data through similar means to a big community (like slashdot), and making thos spammer websites fear a slashdot-like effect on their services with the help for example of a mozilla extension plugin or other nice little scripts and automatism?

Interesting questions and discussions come up, as lot of people ask if this could get Lycos or the actual users of the screen-savers into trouble? Can this be defended by our free-seech, 1st ammendment and other basic democracy laws or other means? Do you think all this is justified? What other solutions could there be for spam at all?

At leat i think that simple filitering and disregarding of such a huge problem doesnt solve anything at all, and i think i am not that mistaken, as spam hasnt really slowed down, or stopped just because of filtering, but spammers try to send even more sophisticated spam and scam, and just migrate over to other fields of endeavor like instant messaging clients, blogs and all that other stuff. So we actually need to tackle the whole problem on the very other end of the place, at the sites, services and products that come advertised in the spams.

I could think of a simple XML service maybe something calld "DSUX" (for: download spam urls xtensively) or some similar service :)

Any comments?

The latest idea to fight spam comes from www.makelovenotspam.com (browser flash-plugin needed) and LYCOS, who offer a simple screen-saver program for the Windows (english), Macintosh (MacosX (english) and Macos9 (english)) in various languages (english, french, spanish, german,...) which actually surfs the promoted URLs inside spams and generates traffic for the website owners, thus generating costs for the sources of spam, and trying to slow down those sites. The screen-saver promises to only generate about 3megabytes of traffic a day when being used constantly for 24 hours 100% a day. Can we call this a new means of self-justice, or is this a legal means of making spammers pay for their trash they keep sending us? You cannot actually call it DDOSing those sites as each screen-saver only generates a few http-get requests from time to time, and visually displays the spam-servers on a world-map.

The company actually delivers the live real-time spam information via XML files.

I wonder if anybody before got this idea, actually to collect the spam urls and shit inside spams, so that maybe someone could share this data through similar means to a big community (like slashdot), and making thos spammer websites fear a slashdot-like effect on their services with the help for example of a mozilla extension plugin or other nice little scripts and automatism?

Interesting questions and discussions come up, as lot of people ask if this could get Lycos or the actual users of the screen-savers into trouble? Can this be defended by our free-seech, 1st ammendment and other basic democracy laws or other means? Do you think all this is justified? What other solutions could there be for spam at all?

At leat i think that simple filitering and disregarding of such a huge problem doesnt solve anything at all, and i think i am not that mistaken, as spam hasnt really slowed down, or stopped just because of filtering, but spammers try to send even more sophisticated spam and scam, and just migrate over to other fields of endeavor like instant messaging clients, blogs and all that other stuff. So we actually need to tackle the whole problem on the very other end of the place, at the sites, services and products that come advertised in the spams.

I could think of a simple XML service maybe something calld "DSUX" (for: download spam urls xtensively) or some similar service :)

Any comments?

The latest idea to fight spam comes from www.makelovenotspam.com (browser flash-plugin needed) and LYCOS, who offer a simple screen-saver program for the Windows (english), Macintosh (MacosX (english) and Macos9 (english)) in various languages (english, french, spanish, german,...) which actually surfs the promoted URLs inside spams and generates traffic for the website owners, thus generating costs for the sources of spam, and trying to slow down those sites. The screen-saver promises to only generate about 3megabytes of traffic a day when being used constantly for 24 hours 100% a day. Can we call this a new means of self-justice, or is this a legal means of making spammers pay for their trash they keep sending us? You cannot actually call it DDOSing those sites as each screen-saver only generates a few http-get requests from time to time, and visually displays the spam-servers on a world-map.

The company actually delivers the live real-time spam information via XML files.

I wonder if anybody before got this idea, actually to collect the spam urls and shit inside spams, so that maybe someone could share this data through similar means to a big community (like slashdot), and making thos spammer websites fear a slashdot-like effect on their services with the help for example of a mozilla extension plugin or other nice little scripts and automatism?

Interesting questions and discussions come up, as lot of people ask if this could get Lycos or the actual users of the screen-savers into trouble? Can this be defended by our free-seech, 1st ammendment and other basic democracy laws or other means? Do you think all this is justified? What other solutions could there be for spam at all?

At leat i think that simple filitering and disregarding of such a huge problem doesnt solve anything at all, and i think i am not that mistaken, as spam hasnt really slowed down, or stopped just because of filtering, but spammers try to send even more sophisticated spam and scam, and just migrate over to other fields of endeavor like instant messaging clients, blogs and all that other stuff. So we actually need to tackle the whole problem on the very other end of the place, at the sites, services and products that come advertised in the spams.

I could think of a simple XML service maybe something calld "DSUX" (for: download spam urls xtensively) or some similar service :)

Any comments?

The latest idea to fight spam comes from www.makelovenotspam.com (browser flash-plugin needed) and LYCOS, who offer a simple screen-saver program for the Windows (english), Macintosh (MacosX (english) and Macos9 (english)) in various languages (english, french, spanish, german,...) which actually surfs the promoted URLs inside spams and generates traffic for the website owners, thus generating costs for the sources of spam, and trying to slow down those sites. The screen-saver promises to only generate about 3megabytes of traffic a day when being used constantly for 24 hours 100% a day. Can we call this a new means of self-justice, or is this a legal means of making spammers pay for their trash they keep sending us? You cannot actually call it DDOSing those sites as each screen-saver only generates a few http-get requests from time to time, and visually displays the spam-servers on a world-map.

The company actually delivers the live real-time spam information via XML files.

I wonder if anybody before got this idea, actually to collect the spam urls and shit inside spams, so that maybe someone could share this data through similar means to a big community (like slashdot), and making thos spammer websites fear a slashdot-like effect on their services with the help for example of a mozilla extension plugin or other nice little scripts and automatism?

Interesting questions and discussions come up, as lot of people ask if this could get Lycos or the actual users of the screen-savers into trouble? Can this be defended by our free-seech, 1st ammendment and other basic democracy laws or other means? Do you think all this is justified? What other solutions could there be for spam at all?

At leat i think that simple filitering and disregarding of such a huge problem doesnt solve anything at all, and i think i am not that mistaken, as spam hasnt really slowed down, or stopped just because of filtering, but spammers try to send even more sophisticated spam and scam, and just migrate over to other fields of endeavor like instant messaging clients, blogs and all that other stuff. So we actually need to tackle the whole problem on the very other end of the place, at the sites, services and products that come advertised in the spams.

I could think of a simple XML service maybe something calld "DSUX" (for: download spam urls xtensively) or some similar service :)

Any comments?

The latest idea to fight spam comes from www.makelovenotspam.com (browser flash-plugin needed) and LYCOS, who offer a simple screen-saver program for the Windows (english), Macintosh (MacosX (english) and Macos9 (english)) in various languages (english, french, spanish, german,...) which actually surfs the promoted URLs inside spams and generates traffic for the website owners, thus generating costs for the sources of spam, and trying to slow down those sites. The screen-saver promises to only generate about 3megabytes of traffic a day when being used constantly for 24 hours 100% a day. Can we call this a new means of self-justice, or is this a legal means of making spammers pay for their trash they keep sending us? You cannot actually call it DDOSing those sites as each screen-saver only generates a few http-get requests from time to time, and visually displays the spam-servers on a world-map.

The company actually delivers the live real-time spam information via XML files.

I wonder if anybody before got this idea, actually to collect the spam urls and shit inside spams, so that maybe someone could share this data through similar means to a big community (like slashdot), and making thos spammer websites fear a slashdot-like effect on their services with the help for example of a mozilla extension plugin or other nice little scripts and automatism?

Interesting questions and discussions come up, as lot of people ask if this could get Lycos or the actual users of the screen-savers into trouble? Can this be defended by our free-seech, 1st ammendment and other basic democracy laws or other means? Do you think all this is justified? What other solutions could there be for spam at all?

At leat i think that simple filitering and disregarding of such a huge problem doesnt solve anything at all, and i think i am not that mistaken, as spam hasnt really slowed down, or stopped just because of filtering, but spammers try to send even more sophisticated spam and scam, and just migrate over to other fields of endeavor like instant messaging clients, blogs and all that other stuff. So we actually need to tackle the whole problem on the very other end of the place, at the sites, services and products that come advertised in the spams.

I could think of a simple XML service maybe something calld "DSUX" (for: download spam urls xtensively) or some similar service :)

Any comments?

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