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who cares if Microsoft is not an innovator?
Except it's Microsoft who calls themselves an innovator. The Ayn Rand Institute even said during the MS trial that MS should be allowed to innovate. And MS had it's own Freedom to Innovate campaign.
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Re:SOP
Looks like the list is right on Microsoft's website.
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Re:dumb idea #2
In the case of a large botnet, instead of each security company trying to compete for user downloads (e.g. Symantec, AVG, Kapersky, Microsoft OneCare, etc) they should all get together, make one free download that specifically targets and eradicates the botnet source on the computer (on any OS) and ensure it gets shoved through all the distrubution channels like Microsoft download, Linux package installers, other tool updates, etc. Maybe the botnet is too complicated for this. I don't know the detials. However I know it's within the software companies' reaches to work together in spcial situations.
Something like Microsoft's Malicious Software Removal Tool, you mean? Sure, it's not crossplatform, but really, what other platforms have serious virus problems? -
Re:Eh?
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Re:SOP
According to this article:
http://www.betanews.com/article/1079773789
Microsoft bought Webcorp in 1993, Windows for Workgroups was first released in October of 1992 according to this document http://support.microsoft.com/kb/126746 from MS. WfWG was in development for more than a year before they bought Webcorp and was released at least several months before.
What's more, WfWG was not just an add-on for Windows. It was really the entire basis of Windows 95. It introduced the VMM model that Windows 95 was basically entirely based on. Also, the networking stack of WfWG was the same stack that was built into NT, which they had licensed from Spider Software and was based on a licensed version of the BSD stack (predating the first open source release of BSD) and STREAMS technology. -
Re:hardly a good testPlease dont get me wrong here. Im pretty sure Vista will run more games than wine.
I think it's called "science." Geeks are supposed to be into it.
If i have the thesis "Vista is backwards compatible" a single single contradiction disaproves this thesis.
Its called Proof by contradiction.
Thus the question can only be "To which degree is Vista backwards compatible?".
And yes, this test is hardly conclusive. However even MS publishes a white list, so this "backwards compatibility" is hardly a non-issue. -
Re:A bit biased? A bit of non sense is more like i
I'm just a bit too paranoid to right away break out the "run as admin" option as a first troubleshooting step. Process Monitor is a fantastic little tool for figuring out what an uncooperative app is trying and failing to access. Sometimes it's just a case of loosening permissions on one particular directory or reg key, and I like to try that before giving anything blanket admin privileges.
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Re:flickr
Yeah. But...
Holy Shit.
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Re:Singularity
Kernel mode? I thought it is all run in user mode and inside a single process but in separate threads.
It all runs in kernel mode. If you're verifying that the "processes" don't do anything bad, why wouldn't you run them in kernel mode? That eliminates the context switch for any system calls.
And cut down that flaming part a bit or I'll tell you mom
;)If people wouldn't talk about things they don't understand, there won't be any need.
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Letter from Ballmer to Yahoo! Board
With an astonishing 62% premium price of its current stock price, Microsoft sent this proposal to the Yahoo! Board of Directors. Here's the . Actually, part of the premium price is explainable by the recent sunk of Yahoo! stock.
January 31, 2008
Board of Directors
Yahoo! Inc.
701 First Avenue
Sunnyvale, CA 94089
Attention: Roy Bostock, Chairman
Attention: Jerry Yang, Chief Executive Officer
Dear Members of the Board:
I am writing on behalf of the Board of Directors of Microsoft to make a proposal for a business combination of Microsoft and Yahoo!. Under our proposal, Microsoft would acquire all of the outstanding shares of Yahoo! common stock for per share consideration of $31 based on Microsoft's closing share price on January 31, 2008, payable in the form of $31 in cash or 0.9509 of a share of Microsoft common stock. Microsoft would provide each Yahoo! shareholder with the ability to choose whether to receive the consideration in cash or Microsoft common stock, subject to pro-ration so that in the aggregate one-half of the Yahoo! common shares will be exchanged for shares of Microsoft common stock and one-half of the Yahoo! common shares will be converted into the right to receive cash. Our proposal is not subject to any financing condition.
Our proposal represents a 62% premium above the closing price of Yahoo! common stock of $19.18 on January 31, 2008. The implied premium for the operating assets of the company clearly is considerably greater when adjusted for the minority, non-controlled assets and cash. By whatever financial measure you use - EBITDA, free cash flow, operating cash flow, net income, or analyst target prices - this proposal represents a compelling value realization event for your shareholders.
We believe that Microsoft common stock represents a very attractive investment opportunity for Yahoo!'s shareholders. Microsoft has generated revenue growth of 15%, earnings growth of 26%, and a return on equity of 35% on average for the last three years. Microsoft's share price has generated shareholder returns of 8% during the last one year period and 28% during the last three year period, significantly outperforming the S&P 500. It is our view that Microsoft has significant potential upside given the continued solid growth in our core businesses, the recent launch of Windows Vista, and other strategic initiatives.
Microsoft's consistent belief has been that the combination of Microsoft and Yahoo! clearly represents the best way to deliver maximum value to our respective shareholders, as well as create a more efficient and competitive company that would provide greater value and service to our customers. In late 2006 and early 2007, we jointly explored a broad range of ways in which our two companies might work together. These discussions were based on a vision that the online businesses of Microsoft and Yahoo! should be aligned in some way to create a more effective competitor in the online marketplace. We discussed a number of alternatives ranging from commercial partnerships to a merger proposal, which you rejected. While a commercial partnership may have made sense at one time, Microsoft believes that the only alternative now is the combination of Microsoft and Yahoo! that we are proposing.
In February 2007, I received a letter from your Chairman indicating the view of the Yahoo! Board that "now is not the right time from the perspective of our shareholders to enter into discus -
Re:Just wondering
You don't need silverlight, silverlight just shows static jpg images that are also on the website:
http://www.microsoft.com/heroeshappenhere/comicviewer/Images/Week1_Day1_full.jpg
http://www.microsoft.com/heroeshappenhere/comicviewer/Images/Week1_Day2_full.jpg
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Re:Just wondering
You don't need silverlight, silverlight just shows static jpg images that are also on the website:
http://www.microsoft.com/heroeshappenhere/comicviewer/Images/Week1_Day1_full.jpg
http://www.microsoft.com/heroeshappenhere/comicviewer/Images/Week1_Day2_full.jpg
http://www.microsoft.com/heroeshappenhere/comicviewer/Images/Week1_Day3_full.jpg -
Re:Just wondering
You don't need silverlight, silverlight just shows static jpg images that are also on the website:
http://www.microsoft.com/heroeshappenhere/comicviewer/Images/Week1_Day1_full.jpg
http://www.microsoft.com/heroeshappenhere/comicviewer/Images/Week1_Day2_full.jpg
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Re:Just wondering
It says that, and yet in the Why Silverlight? section, it promises "Compelling Cross-Platform User Experiences" and "Consistent experiences between Windows-based and Macintosh computers". So I guess what they mean is compelling and consistent experiences across all the platforms you're liscenced to use it on?
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Re:Who is the target audience?
Looks like static jpgs to me
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Re:Cross-platform? (Re:Just wondering)
You must have read the license with a PC. I'm using FireFox on a Mac - when I clicked the link to read the license agreement, I was directed to a page with "MICROSOFT SOFTWARE LICENSE TERMS FOR FIREFOX 1.5+ AND SAFARI ON MACINTOSH OSX 10.4+". See http://www.microsoft.com/silverlight/license-mac.aspx
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Re:Just wondering
Another funny...
If you install Silverlight, the license is specifically for XP SP2 (see here: http://www.microsoft.com/silverlight/license-Win.aspx). "INSTALLATION AND USE RIGHTS. You may install and use any number of copies of the software only with the browser and operating system software named above." Does that mean when SP3 comes out, your Silverlight license is invalidated? -
Re: I'm the Microsoft employee quoted
Hi - I'm the Microsoft employee quoted in the ZDNet article. If you want to find out more about Microsoft's OXML policy positions please go to http://www.microsoft.com/office/openxmlpolicy or http://www.openxmlcommunity.org/ Regards, Nicos Tsilas
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Re:Theory vs practice ... science vs engineeringThe response of Tannenbaum to this sort arguments, which I think is very well worded, is:
"While MINIX 3, QNX, Integrity, PikeOS, Symbian, L4Linux, Singularity, K42, HURD, Coyotos, and others [all microkernels] are an eclectic bunch; clearly I am not alone in seeing something in microkernels. If you are wondering why microkernels aren't even more widely used, well, there is a lot of inertia in the system. Why haven't Linux or Mac OS X replaced Windows? Well, there is a lot of inertia in the system. Most cars in Brazil can run on home-grown ethanol so Brazil uses relatively little oil for vehicle fuel. Why doesn't the U.S. do that and reduce its dependence on the volatile Middle East? Well, there is a lot of inertia in the system. Getting people to change, even to superior practices, is very hard."
Mind you, the word on the street is that Microsoft has assembled a group to attempt to commercialize Singularity, which means microkernels might all of a sudden find their way into the very heart of mainstream... -
Re:QNX Rules
I don't see the point in buying QNX. They already have Singularity which seems very interesting to me. Now I don't know much about microkernels but the idea looks nice. Let compiler handle all the nasty IPC stuff at compile time to lower the performance penalty which comes from process context switches and such.
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Re:bahHave you ever considered it's all the other shitware that came pre-installed on the laptop? My mother's HP laptop runs like crap, but at this point it probably has better specs than my once-top-end desktop which I built. When both running Vista, mine runs immeasurably faster. Nope. The first thing that I do when I buy a laptop is format the hard drive and install the OS from scratch. Since I'm a VAR and have a Microsoft Action Pack, I have all of the software, and it still runs like a pig.
And as far as all of the "install ubuntu" recommendations, I tried Feisty Fawn on the old Toshiba and I could never connect to wireless with WPA. That's one thing that I've never had trouble with in Windows. -
Re:All this does not matter, Labels love it
It is missing "My Videos", "My Music" and any hint of fetching existing content from the hard disk.
You sure about that? Because I'm looking at my Microsoft Remote and it appears to have "My Music," "My Radio," "My Pictures," "My Videos" and "My TV" in that order. Personal experience with XP MCE is good, allowing me to point said folders to one or many places on my local hard drive, network drives or streaming servers (I'm not sure what the protocol is, but TVersity implements it well). Don't believe me? Check out the Remote, see the list of features or maybe look at this Guide to Burning Recorded TV shows to DVD.
Microsoft is not doing pesky Apple (or Hauppage) things and offering the users what they actually want. That is good ya know.
Most of the examples I hear are things that *nix-specific things that Microsoft does in other ways (SSH, X-Window), innovative things that MS said were going to be released with Vista that didn't quite make it (WinFS, PowerShell) or things that are easily obtained (Firefox). Another one is the removal of the HDCP system they use.
A lot of people give Microsoft crap for the Protected Video Path and all the HDCP support - but can you legally play a BluRay or HD DVD on OSX or a Linux distro? No, you can't (although, ironically, you can burn it in OSX). Sure, DRM sucks, but MS thought that the ability to play high-definition content would be important to people, so they did what they had to do to get media conglomerate approval. It's pissed a few people off, but that's the risk you get for being the first OS developer to do it. MS has taken hit and when Apple releases their own version of PVP/HDCP (and they will, unless something dramatic happens), it will pass under the radar.
I'm posted this anonymously because I don't want to take the karma hit when this post inevitably is marked as "flamebait."
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Re:All this does not matter, Labels love it
It is missing "My Videos", "My Music" and any hint of fetching existing content from the hard disk.
You sure about that? Because I'm looking at my Microsoft Remote and it appears to have "My Music," "My Radio," "My Pictures," "My Videos" and "My TV" in that order. Personal experience with XP MCE is good, allowing me to point said folders to one or many places on my local hard drive, network drives or streaming servers (I'm not sure what the protocol is, but TVersity implements it well). Don't believe me? Check out the Remote, see the list of features or maybe look at this Guide to Burning Recorded TV shows to DVD.
Microsoft is not doing pesky Apple (or Hauppage) things and offering the users what they actually want. That is good ya know.
Most of the examples I hear are things that *nix-specific things that Microsoft does in other ways (SSH, X-Window), innovative things that MS said were going to be released with Vista that didn't quite make it (WinFS, PowerShell) or things that are easily obtained (Firefox). Another one is the removal of the HDCP system they use.
A lot of people give Microsoft crap for the Protected Video Path and all the HDCP support - but can you legally play a BluRay or HD DVD on OSX or a Linux distro? No, you can't (although, ironically, you can burn it in OSX). Sure, DRM sucks, but MS thought that the ability to play high-definition content would be important to people, so they did what they had to do to get media conglomerate approval. It's pissed a few people off, but that's the risk you get for being the first OS developer to do it. MS has taken hit and when Apple releases their own version of PVP/HDCP (and they will, unless something dramatic happens), it will pass under the radar.
I'm posted this anonymously because I don't want to take the karma hit when this post inevitably is marked as "flamebait."
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Re:Windows versioning
Windows 7 is just a code name. I'm sure marketing will come up with a public name once it's closer to release.
However, even as code names go, "7" is a departure from "Longhorn", "Whistler", "Cairo" and others. Word on the street is that it's an effect of Sinofsky taking over leadership of the Windows org after leaving Office (where numbers have always been used for product code names).
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Re:I dunno...
http://www.microsoft.com/sql/prodinfo/features/compare-features.mspx
There. It has the service broker, doesn't have data driven notification... One thing thats nice, is that it can deal with "on the fly" attaching of database files...so you can use SQL Server databases a bit like you'd be using MS Access databases, or (I beleive, I've never used it) SQLite. Ship the application with the database file, and it will use it like (but not quite) it was an embedded database... Thats something the full version of SQL Server does -not- do. (pretty amusing when you have a 40 thousand dollars SQL Server install and an SQL Server feature from the free version doesn't work :) ) -
Re:Firefox does come bundled, though
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Re:Firefox does come bundled, though
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Re:Seriously?
Actually that really isn't funny. Microsoft Office (and I think maybe Microsoft Windows too) has long had a term in its EULA outlawing its use to write anything that might harm Microsoft's reputation or disparage their products.
Unfortunately, Microsoft makes their Microsoft Office EULA available for download only as an executable binary (.EXE) following a couple of download pages (containing a flashing Javascript pop up that moves about encouraging me to upgrade my browser to Internet Explorer)—I kid you not—making it difficult for me to check the latest terms on GNU/Linux.
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Google Hacks
If CAPTCHAs are easily hackable, why are they the best identification system out there? What is Google doing right that makes it so you never here about Gmail accounts being hacked into? Hell, Microsoft invents their own stupid system and Hotmail is still probably the most hacked e-mail accounts on the net.
Honestly, what gives... and more importantly... how come Google does it better?
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Re:Obnoxious Advertising
I don't use IE any more, but when I did use to browse at "High" security settings. That turned off all the crap by disabling Javascript. Most sites work fine without it (Snopes included), and you can selectively "Trust" sites that need it.
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Re:SSDs have one infallible data recovery optionYou can use sdelete on Windows
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sysinternals/Security/SDelete.mspx I'm a little suspicious of a microsoft command which would permanently erase my data. Are you sure they are not sending it to themselves first? -
Re:Vista XP is here!1) Vista removed support for horizontal or vertical span modes with a multi-monitor setup. (well, more of they changed things up so that it's impossible for drivers supporting that to be written) Blame NVIDIA/Hollywood. ATI managed to get this working but it's not easy. 2) The 64-bit version of Vista removes backwards compatability for 16-bit applications. I dunno about you, but sometimes I get nostalgic for the games I grew up with... and some of those games are good enough that horrible dated graphics don't matter. It's called "stability. If you want you run 16bit apps, run a VMWare or VirtualPC session with Windows 3.1 in it. DOSBox is a good emulator for DOS. This worked better than keeping the 16-bit subsystem. 3) The 64-bit version of Vista requires you to specify EVERY TIME YOU BOOT that you want to use unsigned drivers. You need to read some documentation.
You can either:
A) Attach a kernel debugger (free)
B) Hit F8 every time you boot (free)
C) Sign the test drivers yourself (technically, also free) -
Re:SSDs have one infallible data recovery option
You can use sdelete on Windows
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Re:Secure erase
Secure Delete; http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sysinternals/Security/SDelete.mspx
I use this to zero out drive space on virtual machines, which allows for their virtual drive to be shrunk.
sdelete -p 2 -z -c -s c:\
It's batch scriptable to run in %tasks% nightly.
"Delete implements the Department of Defense clearing and sanitizing standard DOD 5220.22-M, to give you confidence that once deleted with SDelete, your file data is gone forever. Note that SDelete securely deletes file data, but not file names located in free disk space.
To overwrite file names of a file that you delete, SDelete renames the file 26 times, each time replacing each character of the file's name with a successive alphabetic character. For instance, the first rename of "foo.txt" would be to "AAA.AAA"."
So in other words, if you have a bunch of mp3's in a directory that is deleted - the mp3's data will be gone. But the filenames will be there, in the form of zzzzzzzz.zzz zzz.zzz zzzzzzzz.zzz
Now, if you trust Microsoft with this task, that's another story. -
MinWin and Singularity
Nothing official, but I hear that the MinWin idea was based a lot on the Singularity project. The link has some papers, and there is some really interesting ideas there in terms of fast process isolation, etc. Sure, a microkernel is nothing new, but there are new ways of making a microkernel.
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Re:Order of magnitude description is not quite rig
Microsoft's own website says that Vista requires 15GB to install. The authors probably confused requirements to install (which includes temporary files automatically deleted post-installation) and final installation size.
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Re:Not The Operating System
Yes; if we're speaking of the kernel and not the full product, there's this picture of what was changed in Vista:
http://download.microsoft.com/download/9/c/5/9c5b2167-8017-4bae-9fde-d599bac8184a/kernel-en.doc -
Virtual PC doesn't run on Vista Home Premium2) The 64-bit version of Vista removes backwards compatability for 16-bit applications. I dunno about you, but sometimes I get nostalgic for the games I grew up with... and some of those games are good enough that horrible dated graphics don't matter. I understand the other points, but honestly... If you want to play the old 16-bit applications, run an emulator. That would be a solution, except that Microsoft's emulator doesn't run on Windows Vista Home Premium. Users of Virtual PC need Windows Vista Business or Windows Vista Ultimate. Apple, on the other hand, included the 68LC040 emulator with all editions of Mac OS X 7 through 9 for PowerPC-based computers and all editions of Mac OS X 10.4 and 10.5 for Intel-based computers.
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Re:Thanks, but
Yeah, that's pretty much what they are doing - only using Windows instead of Linux.
MS makes an OS like this - Windows Embedded. The philosophy appeals to me on some level, but for a consumer OS there are some negative implications. For instance, if I buy a new game that uses ActiveX but I chose not to install ActiveX when I installed the OS... well, now there is a search for my Windows disk and a reboot in my future and people will bitch about Windows requiring the original disk and reboots. Even if the reboot can be engineered out, it still sucks a bit.
I can't speak for everyone, but since I usually use an older version of Windows and buy pretty decent hardware, I just do a full install of Windows because performance isn't an issue. If I ever install Vista, it will be 2 or so years from now on a computer well above the recommended specs for Vista. I mostly don't ever want to insert the install disk again. -
Re:Before the idiotic "legos" starts appearing...
Idiotic?
To quote your link: "This is all a matter of protecting the trademark of 'LEGO' for the company (using it otherwise degenerates the strength of the trademark)."
I have absolutely no interest in using a clumsy, unintuitive wording just because the company in question would like so. Do you seriously write all your Microsoft-related text like this? I don't think so. Admittedly I have more respect for the Lego Group than Microsoft. Nevertheless, there's a limit where convenience overrides their wishes of trademark protection. It was their choice not to give a proper name for the actual product line. If they don't offer a usable one, people will make it up. Tough.
In my very humble opinion people who use "Legos" have more common sense than those who violently want to defend a form which doesn't fit into common language at all. Sacrificing fluent everyday speech to protect some random company's trademark is more idiotic to me. I most certainly know what they want. I simply don't care. It's their job to protect their trademarks, not mine. -
Re:Waiting for SP1 before implementation?
C:\Windows\Assembly isn't backward compatibility, it's the
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Re:no one cares.
I dug up the licensing FAQ, and you are right. The only products you can use for production/private use are Office, Project, and Visio (and even then only with MSDN Premium).
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Re:a lesson in corporate behaviorIt's hardly a secret:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/lifecycle/servicepacks.mspx
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/936929
https://forums.microsoft.com/TechNet/ShowForum.aspx?ForumID=2010&SiteID=17
Just a small effort will tell you lots about XP SP3.
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Re:a lesson in corporate behaviorIt's hardly a secret:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/lifecycle/servicepacks.mspx
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/936929
https://forums.microsoft.com/TechNet/ShowForum.aspx?ForumID=2010&SiteID=17
Just a small effort will tell you lots about XP SP3.
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Re:a lesson in corporate behaviorIt's hardly a secret:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/lifecycle/servicepacks.mspx
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/936929
https://forums.microsoft.com/TechNet/ShowForum.aspx?ForumID=2010&SiteID=17
Just a small effort will tell you lots about XP SP3.
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Re:a lesson in corporate behaviorIt's hardly a secret:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/lifecycle/servicepacks.mspx
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/936929
https://forums.microsoft.com/TechNet/ShowForum.aspx?ForumID=2010&SiteID=17
Just a small effort will tell you lots about XP SP3.
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Remote Execution: google more
"The biggest slip is that if you upload a trojan horse back to someone who was downloading data from your machine, there's still no way to force the remote criminal's computer to run it, as happens in the movie."
This is actually how many worms have spread in the past, actually. If you can get files onto a windows box, you can probably execute them remotely (easy mode: you have acquired logon credentials or the box accepts null sessions).
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Re:As a regular user of Notes at Work.
To be precise, Windows XP was released on 25 October, 2001.
And from what I've seen, there are still quite a number of people using 2000 at home and at work.
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Too soon to hassle with Vista?
I don't know why you bother with Windows Vista SP1. Windows XP didn't work fairly well until SP2. Why not let the early adopters have the grief?
Sure, that's only my opinion, but I'm not the only one who thinks that way. For example, see Why all Vista users should upgrade to Windows XP.
A good indication of how Microsoft treats its customers is the fact that it has been more than 3 years since SP2 was released on 8/10/2004. Here is a quote from Paul Thurrott, who is over-the-top pro-Microsoft, and who often apologizes for Microsoft's abusiveness in a way that tries to make abusive behavior sound less destructive: ... the 100+ updates that Microsoft has shipped since SP2 can be a nightmare to deploy.
For those who use Linux, I will explain: Windows often becomes infected with malware. It sometimes becomes unstable on its own, too; Microsoft releases sloppy, unfinished software. So, it is often necessary to re-load Windows XP SP2. Once you have done that, it is at present necessary to re-load perhaps 100 Megabytes of bug fixes that have been released since SP2. That's why delaying Service Pack 3 for Windows XP has been so damaging to customers; customers have paid millions of dollars extra because of the tedious time-consuming task of loading the 100+ updates since SP2, one at a time.
Microsoft shut down Autopatcher, which was created by volunteers. Autopatcher was a method of making installing the patches semi-automatic. I think that shows the true situation: Volunteers have to do needed work. Microsoft, which could have delivered updates using the same method, avoided making it easier and cheaper to use Windows XP.
Why buy a new product from someone who has frequently abused you in the past?
This is the overall issue, in my opinion: Microsoft somehow established, during the DOS days, that it could charge the full product price for what are actually quite minor updates. (Many people are still using Windows 2000.) So the company makes a huge amount of money each time it brings out what is actually a new version of Windows 2000 with a new name. But things have changed. Users tend to be more technically knowledgeable now. They see no reason to change if what they have now is adequate, if somewhat annoying and expensive to maintain.
Windows 98 was an abuser's dream: It had an unstable file system, insuring that everyone would want to upgrade. Abusive company managers try to delay delivering a stable system, since most people don't want anything more from an operating system than stability.
It took Microsoft 3 years to make Windows XP stable and usable with less pain -- there were 3 years from the first release of XP until SP2 was released. Three years of pain, and since then only three years of relative stability? Is that acceptable, 50% pain? Why start the pain again, with Vista?
Microsoft needs the computer builders to advertise its new update of Windows 2000, called Windows Vista. Computer builders want to sell new computers. That's why Vista uses more resources. Vista is partly an attempt to make the present hardware obsolete.
However, people are beginning to understand better, and they are more difficult to manipulate now.
It seems sensible to me to wait to use Windows Vista until Vista SP2 or SP3 is released, and then a few months after that, to learn if the service pack works well.
Quote from Slashdot's story: "Microsoft also issued a new build of Windows XP SP3 this week, but it's getting next to no publicity out of Redmond..." Maybe so, but I can't find it. I found only an 12/10/2007 SP3, a release candidate, which is supposed to be an advanced beta version. -
Too soon to hassle with Vista?
I don't know why you bother with Windows Vista SP1. Windows XP didn't work fairly well until SP2. Why not let the early adopters have the grief?
Sure, that's only my opinion, but I'm not the only one who thinks that way. For example, see Why all Vista users should upgrade to Windows XP.
A good indication of how Microsoft treats its customers is the fact that it has been more than 3 years since SP2 was released on 8/10/2004. Here is a quote from Paul Thurrott, who is over-the-top pro-Microsoft, and who often apologizes for Microsoft's abusiveness in a way that tries to make abusive behavior sound less destructive: ... the 100+ updates that Microsoft has shipped since SP2 can be a nightmare to deploy.
For those who use Linux, I will explain: Windows often becomes infected with malware. It sometimes becomes unstable on its own, too; Microsoft releases sloppy, unfinished software. So, it is often necessary to re-load Windows XP SP2. Once you have done that, it is at present necessary to re-load perhaps 100 Megabytes of bug fixes that have been released since SP2. That's why delaying Service Pack 3 for Windows XP has been so damaging to customers; customers have paid millions of dollars extra because of the tedious time-consuming task of loading the 100+ updates since SP2, one at a time.
Microsoft shut down Autopatcher, which was created by volunteers. Autopatcher was a method of making installing the patches semi-automatic. I think that shows the true situation: Volunteers have to do needed work. Microsoft, which could have delivered updates using the same method, avoided making it easier and cheaper to use Windows XP.
Why buy a new product from someone who has frequently abused you in the past?
This is the overall issue, in my opinion: Microsoft somehow established, during the DOS days, that it could charge the full product price for what are actually quite minor updates. (Many people are still using Windows 2000.) So the company makes a huge amount of money each time it brings out what is actually a new version of Windows 2000 with a new name. But things have changed. Users tend to be more technically knowledgeable now. They see no reason to change if what they have now is adequate, if somewhat annoying and expensive to maintain.
Windows 98 was an abuser's dream: It had an unstable file system, insuring that everyone would want to upgrade. Abusive company managers try to delay delivering a stable system, since most people don't want anything more from an operating system than stability.
It took Microsoft 3 years to make Windows XP stable and usable with less pain -- there were 3 years from the first release of XP until SP2 was released. Three years of pain, and since then only three years of relative stability? Is that acceptable, 50% pain? Why start the pain again, with Vista?
Microsoft needs the computer builders to advertise its new update of Windows 2000, called Windows Vista. Computer builders want to sell new computers. That's why Vista uses more resources. Vista is partly an attempt to make the present hardware obsolete.
However, people are beginning to understand better, and they are more difficult to manipulate now.
It seems sensible to me to wait to use Windows Vista until Vista SP2 or SP3 is released, and then a few months after that, to learn if the service pack works well.
Quote from Slashdot's story: "Microsoft also issued a new build of Windows XP SP3 this week, but it's getting next to no publicity out of Redmond..." Maybe so, but I can't find it. I found only an 12/10/2007 SP3, a release candidate, which is supposed to be an advanced beta version.