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He can even make amazing tunes.

https://modarchive.org/

So this site doesn't exist and isn't full of millions of songs?

https://openmpt.org/download

And this free software doesn't work that way?

(very tongue in cheek, but it does make you think that if we already have the sound version out and long working, how much more crazy complicated the video version could be)

https://modarchive.org/

http://ocremix.org/

I remember the bad old days of p2p. Napster, then everyone went to Kazaa. Gnutella was in there somewhere but never worked well for me. Once I bumped into somebody who had composed an s3m I think it was that I was sharing on Napster and had a little chat. He was flattered that somebody was sharing it and liked his work. (Granted, I got it from The Mod Archive and anyone else could as well. Wow, can't believe that place is still around.)

Then again, I also remember the tutorial that came with Windows 3.1. Microsoft never should have gotten rid of that. That and hiding file extensions by default are two things I think Microsoft never should have done. Then again, you can't fix stupid. I'm sure scammers would still find a way no matter how hard one tries to educate end users.

Since you seem unfamiliar with reality, here are some useful links for you.

http://www.pouet.net/

http://modarchive.org/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D...

With a bit of cleverness, very impressive graphics and music can be conveyed using a tiny amount of storage space. Haste makes waste.

My feeling is, I *know* I hate the sound of dither. And I *know* I hate the flat sound of stuff missing. And I *know* I hate the audiophile super-precise 16- and 32-bit mods/chiptunes and so on, even when they're made by producers with huge experience in audio processing and studio work and... musical theory, and so on. And those digital songs are created by people who should, optimally, be producing the best possible stuff to listen to. But instead the only people who like it are apparently called Seapunks.

Where do I stand? I don't really know. I don't care so much as long as the song I'm listening to sounds as good as an analog recording. In my experience, that happens around 24 bit, 192khz. I don't know *precisely* where it happens, but I know the next step down the digital compression staircase, (164 isn't it? I don't remember) has noticeable losses, and 128 is intolerable for most music. And we're talking about, hmm, almost doubling in size. And we're still talking about megabytes, not anything huge. So I make the sacrifice, and I don't hear any of the things I hate: *dither*; digital conch-shell effect (great now I sound like a Seapunk); "something's not there"; no bass; none of the high-end distortions or hisses I know should be there from experience listening to that synthesizer; etc.

The author gripes a little about "training" the ear making people think they have better hearing. He also goes on about how the wider range is needed in the studio to have more room to work in, but from experience I know if you screw up a recording, once two layers of sound are mixed you aren't going to take that mix and magically move one of them around without also moving the other. But he's talking about side-effects and so on. What it sounds like to me is he's saying "well, if everybody was using transparent oversample filters both in the analog-to-digital and digital-to-analog transition, and if everybody had really fine and precise playback and speaker equipment, and if everybody was a perfect sound engineer and producer and everybody was a perfectly trained listener, there'd be no reason to go to 24 bit 192khz."

And yet there are all these little indications along the way of how the wider range and higher frequency are useful for correcting errors. So it sort of dawns on me, he's asking for *more* effort out of the world in order to justify staying at a width and frequency that have *less* to offer, and his major argument is the amount of space it will all take up. So it sort of fails Occam's razor in a way.

So am I wrong about my reasons to keep using 24 bit 192 khz? I've been doing that for years, and I only go into all this because people are starting to ask questions. Like the other day I was reading an article that bewailed our fates at the hands of "all these people who are producing music for the iPod-headphone crowd".

I had to stop, like, wtf? What's an iPod headphone got to do with it? Then I realized, I make music for the JVC marshmallow earbud. The original ones that still cost around $20, not the new trashy model (which I have, now, and which I hate) that only cost $14. Am I some kind of culprit of some kind of some shit or other? What am I doing wrong? I mean, arguably, my digital tracks are equally for people who buy really low-range response giant speakers for their cars, and I do that on purpose because it's funny. So I have a reason.

But where are all these people suddenly coming from who have these really huge bones to pick with entire industries and crap? What does it all MEAN?

((If you wonder what I'm talking about when I mention 16/32-bit mod music.... fine, if you want to force me to do it, there's a bunch of stuff you could dredge up from the 90s but here's basically THE top result for searching for such stuff: http://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=34414 ... if you want me to rip my own dick off, force me to listen to that cymbal crash on constant repeat))

stardust memories (stardstm.mod)
http://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=59344

If you're interested in MOD files, btw, get on over to http://modarchive.org/ . It's probably the biggest collection you'll find. (It includes newer formats too, like S3M, XM, IT, and others. Like I say, tracked music is still made today. :)

It's amazing what you can do with four channels.

Check this out.

Was? Tracked music is still alive and well.

I only started making it myself a few years ago.

We're talking about copyright, sometimes specifically music, right?

So what happens when the organizations try to usurp content that is not theirs?

Don't we just wheel this entire trial speech with MadLib(TM) names switched?

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Timbaland ripped a track from demoscener
 on: January 13, 2007, 02:57:01 PM Â

Ok, so here's the deal.
A Finnish demoscener and tracker musician, Janne Suni aka Tempest/Damage, makes a 4-channel Amiga track called "Acid Jazzed Evening" for Assembly demoparty's oldskool music competition in 2000 and actually won the category. Then 6 years later, known producer Timbaland, who makes music for several known artists, ripped the track and it appeared on Nelly Furtado's track 'Do It' on her latest album 'Loose'."
http://modarchive.org/forums/index.php?topic=488.0

"Dear Timbaland. Did you or did you not ..."

Suppose some RIAA studio gets sloppy and swipes a MeaslyArtist's entire 60 song set to remix and sell themselves on some dance box set "presumably with rights". At the size of these judgements, wouldn't that crush them?

I know, they'd stall, etc. But Slashdotter's Gamer's Sense should be going off with that skewed of a ruleset. It's pleading to be broken like some infintite MTG combo.

If all they were doing was asking for money, and I had the choice not to give it, then you'd be right. But you're wrong. They can and are inserting ways to take my money WITHOUT my consent. I can't buy a recordable CD or DVD without paying them money, even if I've never desired to see or hear any Big Content media in my entire life. These levies are established by LAWS. Backed up by governments at gun point. THEY are stealing from ME, and THEY DID IT FIRST. They're endlessly trying to find new ways to chisel more money, without doing any actual work or providing any value at all. If I gave a damn about their artists, I would gleefully copy their work without paying. Fortunately for me I like techno, so I have 100,000 songs on my hard drive, all downloaded for free with the permission of the artist. http://www.modarchive.org/

There you go buddy.

I play Skaven all the time. Skaven rocks!

Though some days, I dig Purple Motion just a bit more.

I play Skaven all the time. Skaven rocks!

Though some days, I dig Purple Motion just a bit more.

My $130 Nintendo DS Lite has a $40 attachment called R4 that lets it play MP3, Vorbis, and tracked music, as well as loads of other features. And it gets Good Enough(tm) battery life.

How come nobody mentions Hornet? It's been distributing free songs online since 1987! In addition, there are other free sites:

Kosmic: http://kosmic.org/
The MOD archive: http://modarchive.org/
scene.org: http://scene.org/