Domain: myplay.com
Stories and comments across the archive that link to myplay.com.
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real "off-site" solutions
It occured to me nobody mentioned online solutions such as Streamload or MyPlay (great for mp3 storage)..
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Re:What a shame
If you're looking for a locker to store your mp3's online, go to MyPlay.com.They allow 3 gigs of space for your mp3's so you can listen anywhere or backup your library online, granted you don't go over 3 gigs.
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Let's do the math...RIAA sues MP3.com even though MP3.com provided a legitimate way to access music you already have. Net result: MP3.com (among others) subsidizes the RIAA because RIAA has a flawed business model and is unwilling (read: incapable) to adapt to changes in technology (I'm sure IBM is still in business because the still only sell balances and typewriters)
RIAA doesn't touch MyPlay.com, which allows ANY MP3 to be stored on its servers, without even checking if it's legit.
Here's my math:
- numbers of total MP3 I have: 102
- number of MP3s I have on MP3.com: 26
- number of MP3s I have on MyPlay.com:76
- number of illegal songs I have on MP3.com: 0
- number of illegal songs I have on MyPlay.com: 76
Yep, RIAA is clueless.
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Streaming under Windows...There's a fellow working on a simplified streaming MP3 webserver, at mp3mystic.com. It generates
.m3u files on the fly for files I want to play, then streams them for me--sort of like my own personal MyPlay. I've been trying it out, and it works pretty well for letting me access the files I want to, when I want to, from where I want to. When I'm running Windows, anyway.I'd love to know how I could do something similar with Apache for when I'm in Linux instead.
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only songs by Bouncing Souls?
Make sure you obey the DMCA Broadcast Rules... "A mix cannot contain more than three tracks from the same album in a three-hour period". Then again, if you're willing to follow the DMCA, just post your mix up on myplay.
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only songs by Bouncing Souls?
Make sure you obey the DMCA Broadcast Rules... "A mix cannot contain more than three tracks from the same album in a three-hour period". Then again, if you're willing to follow the DMCA, just post your mix up on myplay.
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Needles restriction
These restrictions are arbitrary, needless, and will probably eventually run mp3.com out of business. Since they already have a rip of my CDs, it's not like they're using a log of server space to record that I have 25, 100, or even 10,000 of them. A simple database insert will record everything necessary.
The other restriction of periodically proving your ownership makes it even more useless since you lose all the portability of mp3s. Might as well use Napster or myplay.
Check out my mix.
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Needles restriction
These restrictions are arbitrary, needless, and will probably eventually run mp3.com out of business. Since they already have a rip of my CDs, it's not like they're using a log of server space to record that I have 25, 100, or even 10,000 of them. A simple database insert will record everything necessary.
The other restriction of periodically proving your ownership makes it even more useless since you lose all the portability of mp3s. Might as well use Napster or myplay.
Check out my mix.
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Some Extra Info + LinksHere's some extra things to look at....
My 'Musical Interpretation' of the report
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150+ Million for an Idea they nicked from myplay..Not only did they launch their service 3 months after myplay.com, but it's been offline for a while... The only advantage they have is their name and all the PR - but that might be enough to get them more customers..... Maybe myplay isn't on slashdot all the time because they're not doing anything to get sued over.
Now... If only myplay will support vorbis alongside mp3 and windows media....
(Oh - and go and listen to my Downtemp/L eftfield Selection on myplay....)
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150+ Million for an Idea they nicked from myplay..Not only did they launch their service 3 months after myplay.com, but it's been offline for a while... The only advantage they have is their name and all the PR - but that might be enough to get them more customers..... Maybe myplay isn't on slashdot all the time because they're not doing anything to get sued over.
Now... If only myplay will support vorbis alongside mp3 and windows media....
(Oh - and go and listen to my Downtemp/L eftfield Selection on myplay....)
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RIAA RulesCould these be considerds an abuse of the copyright? They are some of the most absurd things i;ve evenr encoutnered - we have to write a rules checker at myplay.com
For example.... it is specified that internet broadcasters cannot 'play a piece of music at a time requested by a user or within one hour of receving such a request' - this leads me to a cunning plan.
If everyone on
/. requests all the tracks they don't like - e.g. everythign by the backstreet boys and britney spears. And spams every mail address at internet stations with these requests then they *won't* be able to play any of these. Leaving their broadcasting time free for good music like 'The Who' or this Fine selection of dance music which I've put together.Plus there's the album sequencing rules which can tend to stifle creativity.... all this ends up doing is forcing people to change the names in their advertised playlists and no longer giving the real artists credit..
But if you want real proof the these rules are a load of bollocks - go on napster and search for 'Essential Mix' - you'll probably get a load of radio shows recorded from good old FM radio. Why bother recording from low quality, encrypted streams when it's jst as easy to get someone in the UK to record it for you....
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Sadly - it still fails the myplay.com testRendering a full locker is a test that I keep throwing at it, they give you gigs of free disk space for mp3's, but, a web browser isn't a particularly well optomised interface for working with it.
Trying to display all my tracks basically means rendering a *huge* table - 1000+ rows with gifs and links on every one.
Netscape needs abotu 256megs of memory and takes 10 minutes to do it - this is one of the reasons I'm waiting for mozilla to be able to do it (IE handles it perfectly - shame on us).
Mozilla used to be able to do it. - but the latest build dies
:-( Maybe it's just because I keep adding stuff to my collection and the test is getting harder - oh well.I can imagine some people here saying that the myplay locker design is stupid because it renders everything in one big table (well - the default is only 15 items). But you have to keep in mind that the browser from the evil empire handles it perfectly well - so shouldn't we be able to do a bit better. Arrrgghhh it's so tempting to take a look at this code myself.... as if I have any spare time...
(Why don't you go listen to some of my stuff while you're here - go on - you know that a slashdotter should be number 1.
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real innovation and controlAccording to the letter of the law mp3.com was breaking the law, and everyone on slashdot is jumping to their defence because the law is rather unfair. But lets put things in perspective by looking at myplay.com the people who offered online music storage a loooonnnngg time before my.mp3.com was born in a hail of controversy.
Myplay.com basically offers the same online storage of mp3 (and other formats) as my.mp3.com, they launched their site with the PR pitch of "Your Music, Anytime, Anywhere" - doesn't that remind you of anything?? The PR pitch used by my.mp3.com was "Anywhere, Anytime". I Imagine if myplay had patented the 'online music locker' concept and had sued mp3.com you'd all have lined up alongside mp3.com in response.....
mp3.com are hardly known for innovation - a 5 billion dollar domain name looking for a business plan.
Myplay lets you use your own, mp3s, and it has a loot more features (public playlists). It does mean you need to upload, but that's the price you pay for abiding by the law. If I were myplay I'd be looking at how to do the beam-it system legally - which probably means a lot of deals with a lot of record companies. But those same companies are suing mp3.com - I'd i9magine a legitimate version of Beam-It Would make their case against mp3.com even stronger...
It seems to me that by bringing all these mp3.s together in one place myplay is doing a certain amount to 'control' this culture in the name of the record companies, I'd guess that they pay some sort of RIAA licensing so that the artists are in fact making money. mp3 as a format doesn't have controls, so all those controlsh ave to lie in the services.
So - give some respect to the real innovators here.......
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Re:Online music systems..
The sound you hear is the RIAA sharpening their knives, while they turn their gaze to myplay.com.
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Online music systems..It;s interesting to look at the differences between my.mp3.com and it's competitor myplay.com.
my.mp3.com is basically requiring you to present evidence that you own a CD and then they are giving you mp3's of that CD so that yuou can play them.
Myplay.com instead lets you upload mp3's, so intead of 'beaming' your CD, you're ripping the CD (at whatever quality you like) and adding them to your myplay locaker.
Now - in the end the results are the same, but legally there's enough of a difference that mp3.com was breaking the law while myplay wasn't. If myplay were breaking the law then I presume that they'd have been taken to court first since they've been offering their locker service for a lot longer than my.mp3.com.
But then again - maybe I'm jsut defending them because I like the way I can put up tracks by obscure artists which mp3.com would never acquire (e.g. for vinyl only tracks). Or maybe it's they way they support linux and use software like icecast for streaming.....
or maybe it's because you can go there and listen to my current playlist. Downtempo, Leftfield and other words - go on - you know it deservers to be number 1.
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Online music systems..It;s interesting to look at the differences between my.mp3.com and it's competitor myplay.com.
my.mp3.com is basically requiring you to present evidence that you own a CD and then they are giving you mp3's of that CD so that yuou can play them.
Myplay.com instead lets you upload mp3's, so intead of 'beaming' your CD, you're ripping the CD (at whatever quality you like) and adding them to your myplay locaker.
Now - in the end the results are the same, but legally there's enough of a difference that mp3.com was breaking the law while myplay wasn't. If myplay were breaking the law then I presume that they'd have been taken to court first since they've been offering their locker service for a lot longer than my.mp3.com.
But then again - maybe I'm jsut defending them because I like the way I can put up tracks by obscure artists which mp3.com would never acquire (e.g. for vinyl only tracks). Or maybe it's they way they support linux and use software like icecast for streaming.....
or maybe it's because you can go there and listen to my current playlist. Downtempo, Leftfield and other words - go on - you know it deservers to be number 1.
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YEs - Linux was teh first OS to do this!I was doing this with some code I wrote over 2 and a half years ago (more than a yar before shoutcast). Ok... Been there moment covered - now onto the details.
Nowadays though, I'd suggest you use Icecast + Liveice - there are a few websites already doing this. But - as the author of Liveice I must admit that my documentation sucks, so if you have any problems then I'm always available for answers. Somtimes I even do hacks to order.
Liveice supports Soundcard Input, as well as multichannel mixing of mp3/wav/whatever. It can run as daemon and also supports almost every encoder available for linux. It also permits you to stream the same input at multiple bitrates - something which is probably essential if you're to cater for everyone. I've also got a plugin for xmms, but since there's no line in input plugin it's not so much use for live stuff just yet.
One major bit of advice I give to everyone - Get the latest version from my web page.
I'm terrible with CVS which is why most of my changes/improvements aren't in the tarballs/CVS on iceacst.org - one day when I have time to clean it up for a proper release.
(And while you're at it - why not listen to my latest selection of Scottish Music)
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Experience the DMCA for yourself...Trygetting an account at myplay.com, load up a few tracks and then try to 'Share Music'
This basically is supposed to let you make up a 'compilation tape' of mp3's which you want everyone to listen to, a mini radio show of your favourite tracks.
Of course, because of the DMCA broadcasting/sequencing rules myplay has to check and 'approve' your selection before it can be legally made available. Some poor programmer has had to go and code up a DMCA compliance checker. You can't go and put up the complete 'Dark Side Of The Moon', at least not without cheating.
Personally, I've never come close to infringing these sequencing rules, I think the idea is to have fun with the mixing - if you can't come up with more interesting sequencnig than the original then what's the point? BUT! I don't like any rules like this, even if it does help keep the playlists more interesting......
(go on - try my playlist - DMCA Approved).
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Experience the DMCA for yourself...Trygetting an account at myplay.com, load up a few tracks and then try to 'Share Music'
This basically is supposed to let you make up a 'compilation tape' of mp3's which you want everyone to listen to, a mini radio show of your favourite tracks.
Of course, because of the DMCA broadcasting/sequencing rules myplay has to check and 'approve' your selection before it can be legally made available. Some poor programmer has had to go and code up a DMCA compliance checker. You can't go and put up the complete 'Dark Side Of The Moon', at least not without cheating.
Personally, I've never come close to infringing these sequencing rules, I think the idea is to have fun with the mixing - if you can't come up with more interesting sequencnig than the original then what's the point? BUT! I don't like any rules like this, even if it does help keep the playlists more interesting......
(go on - try my playlist - DMCA Approved).
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Re:The Ultimate Compression Algorithm?The problem with this is that they had to "build the codebook" with source CDs. I don't think anyone has a problem with the locker concept (store your data remotely), but the problem is that prior to any person uploading any CD, MP3.com encoded 45,000 CDs, thus making illegal and unlicensed mechanical copies on behalf of individuals who might at some later point in time identify themselves to the system as owning those CDs.
A simple re-implementation that would fall under the bounds of the law would have the first person to pop a CD in automatically encode and upload the result to the server; later users would just upload the "compressed" (verification) information to gain access. Note that under this scheme everybody gets access to all of their music, unlike the "Gee, I hope they have it scheme" that is the first incarnation of my.mp3.com...
It's interesting to note that myplay (whom I've worked with) is forcing the actual upload of bits to a locker; they could transition to such a strategy as mentioned above and fall within legal bounds.
The main problem is that of the proxy. Is MP3.com allowed to make copies on behalf of customers? The service that they provide is fundamentally compelling, and IMHO not damaging to any CD owners. In this way, I believe that they fall under the bounds of the intent of the law, while failing the letter thereof.
As regards the security issue, it was brought up in the "DVD CCA vs. John Does" case that inadequate security is not an open invitation to break it, nor can it be counted as a facilitating mechanism; so that argument is moot.
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You can play from Linux, but only for an hour
They only have Windows & Mac versions of the 'upload' software, but you can play the m3u playlists with any MP3 player, whether Linux, Be or OS X, as long as it can cope with the long URLs they use. This is good for me as I can 'beam' the CDs in from home, and play them at work, without taking them in and possibly losing them.
Note that the URLs for individual tracks expire after an hour, and then they play you a speech message saying "go and make a new playlist". They weren't smart enough to offset the expiration window by the duration of each track, so you can't play an indefinite playlist. They also forgot the 'shuffle' button.
However this does mean you have an hour to download the MP3s they have of your CD, which (assuming you have a good connection) is significantly faster than ripping them yourself.
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Mp3 Anytime - Anywhere for Linux Users
Oddly enough I posted this story last week but Slashdot ignored it..... Perhaps because I pointed out that the whole site is an exact carbon copy (check some of the html and layouts) of Myplay.com.
Myplay have been offering an online storage system like this for free for the last 4 months and they don't force you to use their technology, or limit you to streaming only.
So - for all you Unix users who don't want to cart a CD selection back and forth here's an online music HOWTO
(1) Get CD Paraoia or cdda2wav
(2) get LAME
( You can also get GRIP - that's a fancy GUI system that uses GTK - nice and easy)
(3) Extract your favourte CD audio to .wav files
(4) encode .wav files to .mp3 files using LAME
(5) Delete the .wav files
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(6) Get XMMS
(7) Listen to your funky mp3's
Now for the anytime/anywhere part....
(8) go to Myplay.com
(9) Get an account (they're free)
(10) upload your chosen tracks
(11) Listen to them wherever you go
okokok but there's more
If you want to show off your music taste you can assemble your favourite tracks into public playlists which anybody can listen to - so it's like creating a radio show. (they use icecast for this BTW)
Plus they've also got a few free tracks, both from themselves and from affiliates like emusic.com....
SO.... my.mp3.com is not Innovative... it's a copy.
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Mp3 Anytime - Anywhere for Linux Users
Oddly enough I posted this story last week but Slashdot ignored it..... Perhaps because I pointed out that the whole site is an exact carbon copy (check some of the html and layouts) of Myplay.com.
Myplay have been offering an online storage system like this for free for the last 4 months and they don't force you to use their technology, or limit you to streaming only.
So - for all you Unix users who don't want to cart a CD selection back and forth here's an online music HOWTO
(1) Get CD Paraoia or cdda2wav
(2) get LAME
( You can also get GRIP - that's a fancy GUI system that uses GTK - nice and easy)
(3) Extract your favourte CD audio to .wav files
(4) encode .wav files to .mp3 files using LAME
(5) Delete the .wav files
then....
(6) Get XMMS
(7) Listen to your funky mp3's
Now for the anytime/anywhere part....
(8) go to Myplay.com
(9) Get an account (they're free)
(10) upload your chosen tracks
(11) Listen to them wherever you go
okokok but there's more
If you want to show off your music taste you can assemble your favourite tracks into public playlists which anybody can listen to - so it's like creating a radio show. (they use icecast for this BTW)
Plus they've also got a few free tracks, both from themselves and from affiliates like emusic.com....
SO.... my.mp3.com is not Innovative... it's a copy.
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It's a Rip Off From Myplay.com
Beam It was put together for my.mp3.com which is a straight rip off of myplay.com.
Of course myplay have had linux support from Day one.