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Nice try. From the 2015 Salary Survey PDF:
"These results come as Salary Survey has undergone a major change in its methodology."
"Comparisons to prior years’ Salary Surveys will also not be included and are not recommended as the methodologies are dissimilar and comparisons would not be accurate.
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Re:real question: can you live on £16k to &aMaybe not so good. Quoting this link:
Graduates of the college Class of 2009 may not be as lucky as previous grads when it comes to finding jobs after graduation. Due to the current economic recession, stock prices are plummeting and the unemployment rate has soared to a high of 7.2 percent. Consumers have curbed their spending habits, resulting in a reduction in demand for goods and services.
Earlier this academic year, employersAnd there's this:
Two-thirds of bachelor's degree recipients last year graduated with an average debt of about $23,000, according to Finaid.org, a financial aid website.
Total debt for borrowers with graduate or professional degrees ranges from $30,000 to $120,000, Finaid.org says. New graduates face an even more unforgiving job market. Employers expect to hire 22% fewer graduates from the class of 2009 than they hired from the class of 2008, according to the National Association of Colleges and Employers. -
Bill GateonomicsLet me propose a similar economic view. Lets look at the dynamics of labor and profit you alluded to. Lower labor costs result in higher profits. When you're an employer you clearly want as many people as possible applying for your opening so you can get the lowest price. That's essentially what has happened with manufacturing.
All those low skilled jobs went bye-bye when smart people with degrees(read: you) figured out, hey why not move all our factories overseas and fire all these high-payed no-skilled two-bit complaining fat-ass Americans and have all these agreeable starving foreigners(read: Chinese) work for much much less and we can treat them like crap, pollute their environment and they'll be happy about it! Plus we can all give ourselves raises for our brilliance! Brilliant!
Ah but you keep saying, "I'm no lazy ass redneck. I got a bunch of scribbles on a piece of pressed parchment see?" Well I got news for you. And Greenspan and Bill Gates have news for you:Computer science employment is growing by nearly 100,000 jobs annually. But at the same time studies show that there is a dramatic decline in the number of students graduating with computer science degrees.
Startion salaries for computer science grads in June 2001 were $52,473(adj. inflation $59,732.11) and in 2006 declined to $51,305.
Maybe we couldn't take the greeter and do the programmer's job but we got someone else to do the programmer's job and now he can compete with the greeter for his job. It's a win-win situation. You see, they really were the same in an economic sense--not Bill Gates.
Good luck with your $30/hr job. You will be earning the big bucks now. -
Bill GateonomicsLet me propose a similar economic view. Lets look at the dynamics of labor and profit you alluded to. Lower labor costs result in higher profits. When you're an employer you clearly want as many people as possible applying for your opening so you can get the lowest price. That's essentially what has happened with manufacturing.
All those low skilled jobs went bye-bye when smart people with degrees(read: you) figured out, hey why not move all our factories overseas and fire all these high-payed no-skilled two-bit complaining fat-ass Americans and have all these agreeable starving foreigners(read: Chinese) work for much much less and we can treat them like crap, pollute their environment and they'll be happy about it! Plus we can all give ourselves raises for our brilliance! Brilliant!
Ah but you keep saying, "I'm no lazy ass redneck. I got a bunch of scribbles on a piece of pressed parchment see?" Well I got news for you. And Greenspan and Bill Gates have news for you:Computer science employment is growing by nearly 100,000 jobs annually. But at the same time studies show that there is a dramatic decline in the number of students graduating with computer science degrees.
Startion salaries for computer science grads in June 2001 were $52,473(adj. inflation $59,732.11) and in 2006 declined to $51,305.
Maybe we couldn't take the greeter and do the programmer's job but we got someone else to do the programmer's job and now he can compete with the greeter for his job. It's a win-win situation. You see, they really were the same in an economic sense--not Bill Gates.
Good luck with your $30/hr job. You will be earning the big bucks now. -
Re:This is what's wrong with slashdot
Sure, here's an intelligent comment. Grab your tinfoil hat.
NACE is the source of the document. That's the National Association of Colleges and Employers. http://www.naceweb.org/default.asp
They put this story out that what you do that ends up online or in social networks will harm you. That's fear. Be afraid, keep you head down or you'll lose your prospects in a job - that's the message.
Publications from Associations such as these are used to influence groups. They are in turn managed by groups of leaders who in turn are also influenced by other "uber" leaders. This latter group includes people who are finding it difficult to control public opinion with the co-mingling that occurs on the Internet. By showing social network sites in an unfavorable light, they how to persuade public opinion to shun them.
To learn more about influencing groups and the history of such behavior since the 1920's I suggest the following book by Edward Bernays:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda_(book)