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...is Sun's Jackpot, headed up by Tom Ball. What's neat about Jackpot is that it does problem fixing, too, using a domain specific language. From the interview:

    $object.show() => $object.setVisible(true) ::
            $object instanceof java.awt.Component;

Feeding that DSL snippet to Jackpot will transform all Component.show() calls to Component.setVisible(true). Very, very cool stuff. Of course, you don't always want to make the transformation, but in the cases where you do, Jackpot looks like a great solution.

I did not succeed to install eclipse plugins from TPTP (Tracing and Profiling Tools Platform) on my Mac. I think, but I'm not sure, that something is missing, something like platform specific software agents to run up the profiler on Mac. Then, I myself reminded a news about the release of the NetBeans Profiler for Mac OS X. http://profiler.netbeans.org/ What an experimental stuff! This is definitely the PROFILER for Java! (Cross my heart, I'm not working for Sun and I'm still using the eclipse IDE). I had to download and install NetBeans 5, an eclipse import module and switch to JDK 5. Bingo, just like that... and all is running fine on my PowerBook.

Agreed, mod up. (Sayeth Mr. Anonymous never-bothered-for-an-account...)

I use netbeans for most of my work in Java for various reasons which I shall avoid enumerating like a fanboy. (But rest assured, they are many.)

Now, I'm just a hobbyist when it comes to the performance stuff, but the profiler integrates so smoothly it's not clear it's a separate download. Now I just need to program stuff where I actually hit performance bottlenecks...

Anyway, it's free, integrates smoothly with a popular IDE, and I recommend you definitely check it out before looking for profilers you need to purchase.

But don't take my word for it, check out their screenshots!
http://profiler.netbeans.org/

JFluid (a.k.a the NetBeans Profiler)

1. Free
2. Trivial to configure/run (as easy as debugging in NB)
3. You can specify a subset of the app to profile, and the rest of the app runs at full speed (profilers like JProbe force you to slow down the whole VM). This also makes the output much more readable, since you're not seeing all kinds of statistics from code you're not interested in.
4. Attach/detach to a running application, which requires no special cmd line options when launching.
5. Analysis tools are good at finding memory leaks, based on discerning patterns in allocation/deallocation

Check it out at http://profiler.netbeans.org/

Seems Microsoft is pushing REALLY hard these days to gain dominance in the mobile phone and small devices market. Well, I'm not going to help them. You know what will start to happen if they get to dictate the standards.

Me, I'll go with JavaME. There are over 300 million Java enabled phones in the world, and 60% of new phones sold come with it preinstalled. There were a lot of prizes to be won at the this years Java One. Sony Ericsson and Motorola among others encourages people to use JavaME.

I tried developing for it a couple of years ago, and it was not pleasurable back then, mainly because of incompatibilities between devices. It looks much better these days, and if you use Netbeans you can build applications just with drag and drop. Remember than Carmack got started with developing for mobile phones because the wide availability of free tutorials and tools for J2ME.

http://www.netbeans.org/

You can pretty much install it and start working on JSP (assuming that's a focus you want) right out of the box. Starts it's own little instance of Tomcat, packages things for you, etc.

It rocks for Swing GUIs (Think Visual-Basic-esque creation) and general Java work too.

There are some pretty cool things created on the NetBeans RCP. The biggest advantage is that it's not hocus pocus SWT, just pure Java. That makes it easier to reuse existing code (see this excellent article on how to get started with the NetBeans Platform for an example. Oh, and here are some bigger examples.

I'm not talking IDE use, I'm talking open source tools platform. While I personally prefer the Eclipse IDE to the NetBeans IDE, having actually coded for each as a platform, I can offer an opinion from experience: the Eclipse programming model makes just makes it easier to get things done. Most vendors seem to agree, which is why, with the exception of Sun, all the major Java vendors are Eclipse Foundation members (including my employer--naturally my opinions are my own).

Compare NetBeans on this footing and you'll see the difference.

Netbeans has a pretty good profiler, much better than anything for Eclipse (I haven't found any good profilers for Eclipse either, though it's a good IDE)

http://profiler.netbeans.org/

You should really look up working with and configuring freeform projects..

( e.g. http://www.netbeans.org/kb/41/freeform-config.html )

Free form projects let you use arbitrary ant-scripts with netbeans.. Netbeans5.0 is really much better than 3.6..

You're able to download modules for Subversion support, but it is not as well integrated as CVS at this point. They have a new project, http://subversion.netbeans.org/ , that should finally bring it up to the same level of support that CVS has.

-rh

Depends what you want

If you want:
The best code editor for any language at all ever then splash out any by IDEA. It rocks.

If you do any Java GUI development or want a quick free way to get going then Net Beans is for you. I generally recommend this to beginners because it is very easy to set-up and understand.
See: http://www.netbeans.org/

If you want a plug-in for every occasion, and don't mind having a long set-up time then Eclipse is for you. You can shortcut some of this by using something like My Eclipse.
http://www.myeclipseide.com/index.htm

Personally I use IDEA and Net Beans. Can't be bothered with Eclipse really.

You could try using netbeans, an open-source project. Some of the advantages of using Netbeans are

1. Its JSP, HTML, and XML editors are excellent. This is something that is sorely lacking in Eclipse. It is fast and it does not freeze like eclipse.

2. Eclipse freezes when trying to open a class or expand the project tree. This happens most of the times.

3. Code-completion is slow in eclipse.

4. NetBeans 4.1 comes with full integration with Tomcat 5 and Sun System Application Server PE 8.1. In order to get this functionality with Eclipse you need to download or purchase plugins. In NetBeans, in order to deploy/run a J2EE application in Sun's app server, all you need to do is to press the run button. NetBeans will compile and deploy the app and launch the app server (if it is not already running), and open your default browser to the right URL. This makes testing code very fast. You don't have to worry about bouncing the server, going out of the IDE to compile the source and then copy the WAR or EAR file to the deploy directory of the app server. You just press Run.

5. NetBeans places all of the project metadata into ant build scripts rather than the extra, IDE specific files.

You could read some real stories from eclipse users here
http://www.netbeans.org/switch/realstories.html

You should also at least look at NetBeans.

Anyway, I have used all three of the big Java IDEs.

While they all share the same basic functionality, like great refactoring, ANT, and JUnit support, each has some areas it excels in. I would say IntelliJ is slightly better than eclipse (the free version, I have never used IBM's eclipse based environment), and both of these I prefer over NetBeans.

The main reason I prefer IntelliJ (if you can afford it) is that it has more useful shortcuts, more intelligent formatting capabilities (if you press enter while in a quoted string it will automatically insert the needed quotes and plus sign and place the rest of the string on the next line, and back again).

One feature I really like, that from what I remember is only in Eclipse, is incremental building. The other two require you to hit a build button before hitting the run/debug button. Not that I'm lazy, but you really get used to it building automagically when you hit save. One thing I find kind of annoying about Eclipse is that it doesn't include support for say, xml editing, which the other two support out-of-the-box, instead requiring you to go to their site and finding web-tools plugin. Also the internal parser used for error marking often requires saving the file before it will refresh the markings on the page.

The reason I put NetBeans last, is that it doesn't include quick fix suggestions. Its nice to be able to hit a couple of keys and have the IDE suggest and fix simple problems without having to look at a reference, or moving a bunch of code around.

From my experience all three of these IDEs take about the same amount of setup when you get passed simple applications, so if you had trouble with Eclipse, I don't think IntelliJ or NetBeans will be much simpler.

There is always javac I guess.

To throw another IDE in the mix, try out Netbeans. Last I checked 5.0 is in RC1. I have used it for a few pet projects, and find it quite useful. Especially for GUI development, they use a new component called matisse.

To throw another IDE in the mix, try out Netbeans. Last I checked 5.0 is in RC1. I have used it for a few pet projects, and find it quite useful. Especially for GUI development, they use a new component called matisse.

If your doing java development netbeans is an option. Eclipse has forced it to become much better. Although it doesn't use SWT. I prefer eclipse, but have friends who swear by net beans. Unlike most people in this situation we still talk to one antoher (java ide's seems to cause religous battes, like vi vs emacs.. etc..). This kind of battles are silly.

http://www.netbeans.org/
http://community.java.net/netbeans/

than there is sun's java studio...what is this?? I don't know , but its free now and seems to be yet another ide.

http://developers.sun.com/prodtech/devtools/free/i ndex.html?cid=16052

1. Java is not a magic bullet, like any language it needs skill and reasoning to use properly, that is not in dispute.

2. Objective-C is a native 'C' compiler based language with no defined security model, thus has many flaws which VM and GC based languages, like Java, lack.

3. I don't care about super computing mathematics, that is a niche activity; all out speed is not my target, reliablity, security, development speed and good enough processing speed are very important to me, my employer and their clients.

Developer time is pretty critical, I don't have the luxury of loads of time to hunt down nasty pointer and buffer overflow bugs, data type glitches or write vast amounts of wrapper code to secure some dated language, a client can lose serious money in that time, I need the language to be secure so that I can concentrate on getting new features and bug fixes out fast, with minimal surprises. The Java compiler and virtual machine has several levels of built-in security, which can be further tightened using code and/or properties files, this prevents most of the classic bugs and security issues of less secure (native) runtime environments. The JVM also automatically profiles running code and compiles busy sections to machine code, so that you can get pragmatic speed optimisation almost for free! Garbage collection is not a significant concern in Java 1.5 and can be greatly reduced with minimal extra design/coding effort. As a bonus the range of support libraries for Java is truely vast and due to the standard file format you don't have the dialect, compiler, linker or make issues of C, C++ etc, even Java version differences can be worked around by using free third party libraries.

As for Java applications:
(most are multi-platform and some are multi-lingual too)

"DBVisualiser" A multi-platform database tool
http://www.dbvis.com/products/dbvis

"Force Field Explorer" A computational chemistry and molecular engineering tool
http://dasher.wustl.edu/ffe

"Azureus" A multi-platform Bittorrent P2P client/server
http://azureus.sourceforge.net/
http://sourceforge.net/projects/azureus/

"Eclipse" A multi-platform IDE and GUI framework
http://www.eclipse.org/
http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/

"Net Beans" A multi-platform IDE and GUI framework
http://www.netbeans.org/

Many of Borlands development product e.g. JBuilder, C++Builder, C#Builder etc., all multi-platform.
http://www.borland.com/us/

Numerous graphics, video, audio and graphical modelling and visualisation tools.

Various GUI charting libraries (Free & commercial), including Crystal Reports...

Loads of web servers, web frameworks and order types of servers: Tomcat, Web Sphere etc.

Loads of XML Tools and libraries, both free & commercial!

1. Java is open source: http://mustang.dev.java.net/
2. Use Java IDE for Java development: http://netbeans.org/
3. Try J2EE, J2ME. Profit :)

To paraphrase Jonathan Edwards, I used to be a language bigot and now I'm a tool bigot.

(And yes Smalltalk had a great IDE (and framework) in it's day (and Squeak is still fun, fun, fun), but for building non-trivial web apps, the tooling on the Java side beats anything else I know of...)

NET's Windows Forms API is a LOT easier to work with and customise than JAVA's Swing. It takes me mere seconds to create a scrolling notepad as opposed to 15 minutes in Eclipse and nearly half an hour with just an editor.

Try Netbeans, which I use instead of Eclipse. It has a GUI creation mode that absolutely rocks compared to writing source. (Specifically, I have been using the 4.x version)

Here's a screenshot of Netbeans 5.0 editing a form:
http://www.netbeans.org/images/screenshots/5.0/Mat isse.png

If you haven't, you should take a look at

http://www.netbeans.org/

LAMP, etc. is easier to get started quickly. If you get advanced enough, you will start to wonder how can I do more processing client side? Hmmm, ever though of an applet that can just request some server side PHP, Perl? I have not gotten in to the server side Java myself. That is simply because it is not offered on most of the less expensive hosting companies. That is somewhere Sun should really take some time and effort pushing Java.

The more time you spend with "web" development, the sooner you will realize push/pull really sucks for doing anything serious.

So I assume you're the one behind the push to house all linux kernel coders inside a cube farm office?

Perhaps you'd like to think about what you're saying slightly before you post it. Bug/Work Item tracking, project management, EVM, teams working at different locations, team members working from home are all extremely good reasons to want these collaboration tools.

And then you saddle your post with a pile of anti-MS rhetoric to make it sound authoritative. Yes VSS is a pile of junk. Strangely it is Windows only but thats because this vendor produces windows. Perhaps you'd prefer suns collaboration tools that are platform independant. Perhaps you'd prefer a tool chain of open source products (SVN, trac, wiki, emails). But like it or not there is a definite need for this type of software.

I guess there are more reasons than these, but those were the ones that came to mind at the moment.

Or NetBeans 5.0? The new NetBeans is much improved and, I believe, has now, ermmm....eclipsed Eclipse.

I wasn't aware that the Netbeans 4.1 and the mobility pack started working with Mac OS X.

Quite frankly, it is painfully obviously that you know nothing about what's your talking about. Either that, or you're a troll. Either way, it wouldn't hurt for you to do some research about what you're talking about.

-- ac at home

Excellent! Thanks Microsoft! Great product, we use it every day!

Download it here!

Yes its available and you can run it yourself as many others have! Here: Building and Running Project Looking Glass with NetBeans.
Regards,
Steve

Both Eclipse and NetBeans provide editing tools to ease the task.

Show me a recently written piece of slow Java code, and I'll show you a programmer who should be looking for a new job. Think Burger King.

Looks like the Sun offices are going to be quiet next week.

(*) NB: Switchers may not be real people.

Also have a look at the new GUI Builder coming in NetBeans 4.2. There's a flash demo of it here.

Also have a look at the new GUI Builder coming in NetBeans 4.2. There's a flash demo of it here.

"Popular like java itself - but open and not stifled by SUN licensing."

Wrong. Don't know if you're talking about Eclipse or SWT but in either case you're wrong. Java is more popular than either. There are a ton more Swing apps than SWT. Sun's licensing isn't stiffling considering many people use SWT and Eclipse with Sun's JVM.

"Cross platform GUI - but not crap like SUNs AWT or slow like Swing"

SWT is a lot more limited than Swing. People that have a hard time coding in swing like SWT. Just because you can't understand swing doesn't make IT bad. Swing isn't slow anymore.

"Powerful development tools similar to Netbeans - only unlike SUNs netbeans people use it that aren't forced to by their employers."

I use NetBeans by choice and I know a lot of others that do as well. If you're doing web development or swing gui development there is no better free option available than netbeans. Why pay for plug-ins when I can get better tools for free?

"Similar to Netbeans only - only unlikes SUNs netbeans has major industry backing and is becoming the java development platform standard."

These people seem to think they are backing netbeans.

"I sometimes wonder what life would be like if IBM/OTI had developed java, maybe they wouldn't have crippled java's linux possibilities in the way sun has."

Easy, if IBM developed Java, they would have kept it to themselves. Not only would they have kept it to themselves it would have failed. When Java came out IBM was no friend of open source and open standards or even playing well with others. IBM has bought some nice technology over the years but as a development shop they haven't been much to brag about. Their legacy products have kept them going until they could do more and expand their consulting into other areas.

"By now we could have had a major modern linux development language and environment and linux could be ahead of windows in terms of migrating to a more modern platform/language."

I'm sure the IBM PR department are very happy to know they're doing a good job.

"Instead the entire java platform needs to be rewritten from scratch under a license that doesn't cripple it's chances of getting mass adoption on what is probably destined to be Windows major competition on the desktop."

Right, cause RedHat and SuSE don't include java in their distros and IBM doesn't sell any products that bundle Java?

"Let me finish by saying "WAKE UP SCOTT MCNEALY SOLARIS IS DIEING - Be a lead player in Java adoption on the desktop by releasing java under a GPL compatible license. You're strategy of keeping java under a non-linux friendly license is helping IBM/Redhat and the longer you leave it the less likely java will ever become a major desktop platform""

I'm sure the CEO of a multi billion dollar corporation has just been holding back until some random guy on slashdot, that sells cd's with open source software on them for 2 bucks, would come along and set him straight.

I said they were supportive. Discussions on mailing lists, blog entries, that sort of thing. Encouraging.

Please note that Macromedia is being supportive to their own developer community. Also every tool (open source or not) that has a chance to provide added value to their own platform while not being a competitive threat to their own product line is likely to get some (little) support as well. That does not even compare to what other companies do, by really embracing the free software / open source movement. IBM offered a couple of dozzens of programs to the open source community (list) one of them being an Integrated Development Environment (IDE) for Laszlo. Sun open sourced Star Office, Netbeans and will soon open source Solaris. Laszlo Systems open sourced their RIA Platform (OpenLaszlo). These and others are companies being supportive to the open source community. Macromedia however is not one of these companies. On a greed scale they would be somewhere very close to Microsoft.

Flash (which, btw, costs half of what you said)

I don't know where you live but in Germany the half cripple Macromedia Flash MX 2004 costs 694.84 euro (=855.926701 US$) and the full Macromedia Flash MX Professional 2004 costs 973.24 euro (=1,198.868952 US$).

If you don't like it -- don't buy it.

You can bet I won't. I already told about OpenLaszlo. That is what I would use, should I ever consider writing Flash applications again. For now I am a lot better off using SVG and JavaScript for the open source projects to which I contribute. SVG and JavaScript are both open standards while Macromedia's technologies are proprietary. Supporting Macromedia's technologies would help Macromedia more than anybody else, and would surely hurt web standards and interoperability.

Try NetBeans the new versions run nicely with the performance enhancements Sun has made to Swing.

I've filed an issue report
http://www.netbeans.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=591 49

IDEA and the JBuilder X Developer are really good IDEs, better than both Netbeans and Eclipse in a lot of ways, but they aren't free and they aren't platforms. IDEA goes for about 500 and JBuilder for about a grand.

There's actually a pretty up to date feature comparison table for Netbeans, Eclipse, IDEA and JBuilder (free and non free) on the Netbeans.org site. It seems to be very fair even though Netbeans put it up.

There were a couple of things I saw that weren't accurate. Eclipse now has code folding and Netbeans has better JavaDoc support than seems to be indicated.

I've tried different IDEs. I used to use a text editor with syntax highlighting for java, jsp, xml, etc. I was able to set it up to compile single java files and if I spent some more time I could have probably put some ant integration into it. I also wrote some macros to do things like generate getters and setters for class members. This was all done with free tools. This is a step up from when I first started java development in notepad :)

I wanted to find an IDE that made things a bit simpler for me. Since I was primarily concerned with web applications, those are the features I looked at most. Netbeans really fit the bill for me. With Eclipse I still had to build the whole directory structure for the webapp, all the configuration files, etc. It was not much better than using the setup I had before. In fact it was worse in someways because I didn't even have the syntax coloring for jsp anymore. So I tried a couple of the plugins for web apps but didn't really like them too much and didn't find them worth the price compared to the free setup I had before.

With netbeans, I didn't have to worry about anything when it came to developing webapps. Tomcat was bundled and well intigrated, there was a good jsp editor with code completion, starting a new web project created all the directories, config files and ant build scripts and I could stop using system.out.println to debut jsp pages because the debugger actually steps through the jsp files. Only thing I really had to do was include the jdbc driver jar files in the appropriate directories but if I wanted to I could use the pointbase database that comes bundled.

This all gave me a big productivity boost. If you've always wanted to try and see what Java web development was all about Netbeans is the way to go. Once you download the IDE you can start going because you don't have to configure a database, http server or servlet engine This isn't all that hard if you're familiar with it but it is time consuming and if you've never done it before can be overwhelming.

I'm sure this was all by design. Sun wants more people to start developing for Java. They've made it easy and free to do so with Netbeans. Not only webapps but also swing based java applications and applications for mobile devices. It does serve Sun's interest but it's also good for the general Java community as well to have more developers entering it.

It's also good for IDEs like IDEA. Once people start working with Java development they will be exposed to IDEA at some point and may decide to switch once they've gone from and IDE that does some handholding to one that seems to read your mind.

A couple other things I like about Netbeans is the JavaDoc support. The javadoc ant task is generated in the project build file and all you have to do is right click and select it from the menu to generate the javadocs. Also the Auto Comment tool is pretty neat. I'm a big fan of JavaDoc comments, especially if you're working with a team or on an open source project. I also like how the code completion tool also has the java

I used IBM Visual Age For Java a long time ago and when it's developement ended, first thing i checked out was Eclipse. It sucked compared to VAJ. So i started using Sun's Forte, then NetBeans. Once i get used to it, i think it's the best IDE out there. We have JBuilder at job but i still use NetBeans for code editing and use JBuilder only for building (it has an 'Export to Ant' feature but the script it generates us useless and always fails) and remote deploying to BES.

I just installed NB 4.1 and already can't wait for 4.2 to come out :)

For all those saying NetBeans is slow - it's faster than Eclipse and it's faster than JBuilder. Quoting http://www.netbeans.org/switch/why.html : 6. It's Fast
Performance rocks. It's not your mother's NetBeans.

So ignorant,its not even funny. This goes for plugins too. Netbeans, imho, has surpassed eclipse in capabilities. Download Netbeans and look at what you have, then download Eclipse and look at what you have. You'll find that Netbeans is way more feature rich. Also, even after you install your favorite eclipse plugins, Netbeans still usually has a few key features that eclipse just can't compete with. Most programmers at my job used to use Eclipse, most heard bad things about Netbeans from the older days when it was stagnant in development and slow. Since 4.0 (and even better with 4.1), alot of people have been changing to Netbeans, it just works and everything integrates wonderfully.
Regards,
Steve

So ignorant,its not even funny. This goes for plugins too. Netbeans, imho, has surpassed eclipse in capabilities. Download Netbeans and look at what you have, then download Eclipse and look at what you have. You'll find that Netbeans is way more feature rich. Also, even after you install your favorite eclipse plugins, Netbeans still usually has a few key features that eclipse just can't compete with. Most programmers at my job used to use Eclipse, most heard bad things about Netbeans from the older days when it was stagnant in development and slow. Since 4.0 (and even better with 4.1), alot of people have been changing to Netbeans, it just works and everything integrates wonderfully.
Regards,
Steve

It doesn't sound like what I thought it was anymore.

I know that the concept of filesystems is still in the new versions it's just hidden. Between the Projects and Runtime tabs is a Files Tab that looks like the old filesystem view but you can't mount any filesystems. Have you thought about just creating a dummy project and putting your non java stuff under that?

I'm sure there's some sort of solution to get you to upgrade if you want. I don't know what non-java files you would manage with netbeans. My guess would be that you're either using netbeans to have a consistent version control interface for those files, or those files accompany java files in some fashion. You can create directories in a project for those files. you won't see them in the project tab but you will in the files tab. Or you could create a dummy project and put the folders in there.

Personally, I like the new project system. I was never a fan of writing my own ant files from scratch and I like how I can just launch textpad and make changes and use ant to build and test if I want to make some quick changes without launching the whole ide.

Sorry if that module doesn't pan out, as it looks like it isn't what I thought based on the screenshot.

wow that is really interesting. i've been using netbeans for years and didn't know this. learn something every day...

and here's the link to the modules (plugins).

this is really going to make a difference for me...thanks for the clarification.

So if you like Netbeans more than Eclipse you should be happy to know that Netbeans is also a platform and you can get plugins for it. This is a neat tutorial on building an application using the Netbeans Platform

If you're working on projects of less than 50 files you can get the RefactorIT plugin for netbeans for free that will add a ton of refactoring support. There's also JRefactory which is open source but I haven't used it.

I use many java desktop apps in my day to day tasks on my linux desktop. There is no better way to connect to multiple databases than Squirrel , No better way to code in Java than NetBeans and no better editor than JEdit

I think Java 5 already has great desktop features like shared class data, and 2D acceleration for 2D acelerated hardware (which I don't have yet!).

If security is important to you, you do not really have a choice... Windows systems are easily compromised, with MAJOR security problems coming up almost weekly. So you'll have to go with Linux/Unix and that pretty much means J2EE.

We've done a lot of systems with J2EE (mostly financial) and it's been a very positive experience. J2EE has excellent support, both OSS and commercial, lots of excellent tools (many of them are free, take a look at NetBeans or Eclipse), and a proven success record.

Without knowing your specific requirements, I'd recommend J2EE simply because it offers low start-up cost and we had a lot of success with it. Good luck.

Eclipse is pure java, too. Oh, unless you don't consider SWT to be pure java, [...]

Eclipse can use Ant to build a project. I don't know if it's the latest version, but for all basic purposes, the version included is good enough. I don't know if there's an Eclipse plugin that automatically updates build.xml or lets you handle it in a graphical way, but I think ant build files are meant to be hand edited, anyway. You can use XML buddy inside Eclipse to validate the XML.

There is even a wizard to import hand edited ant files as project. the ant files aren't even changed for that. beautifull.

Netbeans can not only validate ant scripts it offers element completion for ant targets etc.

And that stuff about using the NetBeans platform, sounds like the stuff Eclipse includes now with 3.0, where you can build your SWT apps using the same objects that make up the Eclipse IDE.

Hmmmm....

OpenOffice
or NetBeans

nothing dirty there.