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... to what happened to gaming on PC and mobile? MMO's, drm and steam proved the public is just downright cretins when it comes to technology. The people who care about personal computing are a minority. The rise of steam, mmo's, always online drm and f2p games means the average pc and software consumer is a fucking moron.

They simply don't care and/or are too irrational. Think about what we used to get with PC games in the 90's -- total ownership, dedicated servers, level editors, free maps, mods and skins. The last 20 years with the rise of the masses that has all been almost wiped out because the internet allowed game companies like valve to steal games in comfort and safety from the middle of the continent while their customers were 100 miles away. Everyone with a brain remembers the great betrayal of valve with half-life 2 and cs in 2004 when he launched steam to steal the fucking software and undermine game ownership. The man pioneered walled gardens, then he gets anxious when MS finally gets a clue and makes windows platform and windows store and suddenly he's interested in proton and linux.

The average person on our planet is a god damn uncaring moron when it comes to these issues. Just look at fortnite with kids paying for skids in a game they don't own. Once that happened software companies have zero incentive to ever give software ownership back to users because there's too many stupid people who feed them money.

Just look at the money game companies are making from mobile gaming, they make more money then almost both the PC and console market combined, just off 3% of the people who spend money on gambling for skins/characters like it's going out of style. These people with evolutionary flaws and gambling type minds have allowed game companies to survive indefinitely and totally undermine software ownership.

This is why corporations want to finally finish off general computing on the PC and other hardware:

https://newzoo.com/wp-content/...

It's all about profits.

I swear, we get these so often.. desktops are dead / desktops are dying..

Yeah yeah, sure the vast number of phone/tablet/mobile users are a significant portion of traffic.

You don't seem to understand why companies want to get rid of freedom and general computing on the PC, we're seeing the big lockdown with windows 10.

See these numbers, this is what they want the lockdown that produces profits.

https://newzoo.com/wp-content/...

The last 20 years software has been locked down on the PC starting with RPG's when they were rebranded mmo's and taken hostage, the whole gameplan is to prevent software and file ownership on the PC. Steam and game companies have been getting away with this theft for years on the PC and mobile, where you pay for software, but never get a copy of said game or software making game preservation completely impossible.

Windows 10 already can disable and 'update the os' to disable your games, they want to move to feudal locked down computing where they are constantly checking and spying on you to see whether you have permission to run the software that is running on your PC.

We've already seen PC gaming in the AAA space have level editors and dedicated servers all but wiped out because of the desire for microtransactions and advertising/streaming, they want to monetize the time and attention of end users and that makes no ownership for you.

Eventually though, investors will realize this is just a load of shit. Just make good games and you'll get showered with money.

Not so young padawan, CEO's have discovered the ultimate "3%" via locked down games and gacha/gambling mobile games. They want to bring that to all games. Mobile is making profits that is on route to eclipse the entire PC and Console game market combined because of the locked down nature of smart phones and the fact they've put gambling interface on it for the super rich, super stupid, and super impulsive. That 3% is what game companies are now after.

https://newzoo.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/Newzoo_2017_Global_Games_Market_Per_Segment_April_2017.png

There was just a story here about Rockstar having the largest weekend haul with their new game

Rockstar has drm out the wazoo and who's game is fully drm'd for shark cards, which is why they were threatening hackers. They want those mtx and gambling money badly. Same with epic and fortnite. Now they are fully incentivized never to give you the game you are paying for ever again.

https://torrentfreak.com/epic-games-sues-youtuber-golden-modz-over-magical-fortnite-powers-181012/

consoles don't make up nearly as much of the market now. PC's and mobile games do.

How is that relevant? I thought you were talking about a shift towards SJW in gaming industry as a whole, not some console vs PC masterrace debate

But just to check on the status of the industry, 2 seconds searching yielded me the following:

https://newzoo.com/insights/ar...

https://www.businessinsider.co...

Gaming as a whole (pc, consoles, mobile, everything) is still growing. Each platform's market share has been pretty stable for the last few years. Mobile is the top, but both PCs and consoles still have their share of the market.

But again, I don't see how any of this relates to the influence of SJWs. We've had individual games having contraversy, but to borrow words from the president, there are still many many fine people making games in the rest of the industry.

Look up the EA

EA is basically the "big evil corporation" of gaming. They may be big and they have big franchises that move units, but that doesn't mean they're representative of the industry as a whole. I mean, we've got big companies like Google and Facebook jumping on the SJW bandwagon, but that doesn't mean the Internet as a whole is on board.

I mean, here's one piece of recent news that should make you happy and SJWs rage: Steam didn't cave to the SJW's demand to cleanse itself of dirty adult theme games, and in fact have become more hands off in what kind of games gets a pass.

but nothing has supplanted the PC

If you think about this, it is not a defensible statement. Sure, PCs still have a large collection of niches that nothing has supplanted - but you are ignoring the huge number of niches which have disappeared. You probably have a computer in your pocket right now with approximately the same power as a late-80s Cray. It has almost entirely wiped out the social aspect of the PC - email, IM, web forums, video and music sharing, etc. The PC games market is slowly losing ground to mobile.

Will there always be a market for powerful desktops (workstations)? Sure, I think so. Or maybe I lack imagination. But right now I think things like video editing, rendering, CAD, software development, and data analysis are safe. It's also not hard for me to imagine mobile processors eventually getting good enough for those fields, however. At that point, it will be more cost-effective to just do your work on a machine with souped-up mobile guts. Fast forward 10 years - why would anyone spring for a low-volume x86 chip when the ARM 10 in your pocket can be cheaply repurposed in a "desktop" for your video, CAD, or development work? Hell, even data analysis might be something better farmed out to a server somewhere... I already do this when I need more oomph than my workstation provides.

Intel should be worried - economies of scale are what won them the desktop, and x86 could easily be the next SPARC or Alpha or PA-RISC or MIPS or ...

https://newzoo.com/insights/ar... Has caught baseball & hockey for US male millennials