Domain: oasiscd.com
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Re:Idiot
For the number of people out there saying 'i wish i could support the artists directly', well, we're out there and there are ways to do it
Sometimes. For the small-time, amateur/independent artists there's CDBaby if you're willing to pay for CD duplication yourself. $1300 for 1,000 pressed and wrapped CDs with color printing is pretty damn good, and well within reach if you're at all convinced that your music is worth selling. There are also many good indie labels that will give you a fair contract. If they're selling through CDBaby or similar, the artist is getting a good cut.
But I know a number of professional artists, from bands that are fairly well-known and have done national and international tours, and they make middle-class salaries. So go to the shows, and buy some merchandise if it isn't overpriced. And unless you *know* the artist is getting totally screwed, buy the CD. It's simply not true that all artists are making next to nothing on CD sales, even when a major label is distributing it. -
Re:Alternative?
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Re:they want profits from ipod?Worse! Steve Jobs could make HIS OWN RECORDING COMPANY! *GASP*
RIAA, meet your nemesis.You know, sitting back and screwing over the artists while the money rolls in isn't the only thing that record labels do. There's a massive amount of work involved in promotion. If Apple wants to offer a very basic service that only involves putting your independently-created songs on iTMS (and hopefully a good deal on CD duplication), well sure, they could do that. But you'll be touring constantly just to get your name out there.
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Re:Bounces on the line and kicks up chalk...
How much do you think it costs the company to have a developer stop what he's working on and make a CD for someone that requests the code? Probably more than $50.
Bullshit. Vendors sell commercial software for less than that and make a profit, therefore $50 is too high to be the true cost duplication. A quick Google search reveals these guys, who'll do the duplication for around $3 a disc for small runs and the cost of processing and sending it out is not high either. Anything over $10 would need to be justified and accounted for, IMO. -
Re:Of Course
The $950 for a thousand CD's is for commercially pressed CD's.
$907.13-Includes printing on CD, 1 fold 4 color insert, shrinkwrap in jewel case
$1412.03 if you want a 8 page folder. Probably has a initial setup charge.
$1,390 for a 1000 one pagers, $1,090 for a reorder of a 1,000
They'll do a little more of the work for you?
A to Z, wants your information to give you a quote
Morphius is offering a free barcode ($300 value!)
Another online quote one.
Oasis is $1,465 for the "complete package"
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Re:1900s called, they want your business model bacWhy ship physical packages that might not sell when you can just ship blank disks and figure out what to put on them later?
Because that's not how real CDs are manufactured.
See here for example.
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Buymusic.comFor those who responded to this post, I will be getting a box full of CDs this weekend and will start sending them out - thanks to all who emailed me about getting a CD, the response was fantastic!
In other news, we are talking with a lawyer and hope to have some news soon about our status on buymusic.com.
After some homework, we did *not* sign anything with 'The Orchard'. We had our CDs manufactured by a company called 'Oasis', and agreed for a song to be put on a sampler. That's it.
'The Orchard' and buymusic.com are blatantly violating copyright in the worst way (selling the infrigements).
Personally, I don't care if this CD is on p2p (I plan to make files available after this is taken care of), but when someone charges for these songs without our knowledge and pockets the proceeds, that is not cool.
Thanks again for all those who emailed for a CD and to chat about it, many more are available, so feel free to contact me and buy one ($5+shipping) if you like the samples.
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Re:Why?
Why exactly is pressing a CD more costly than burning one? And what is the cost difference?
Pressing a CD has an initial setup cost associated with making the master, getting the mold set up, etc. It's apparently not that expensive, but it is several hundred dollars just to start a run. the first duplicator I looked up will make 300 disks for $720, 1000 for $885, and 5000 for $2785, so you can see that the cost of one extra disk is a lot less than the cost of getting the first disk made. That looks as though it's something like $0.45 per disk, but with a setup fee of close to $600 just to get the first disk off the press. So if you assume that it costs $0.50 for a blank CD-R and $3 in labor and overhead to burn one, it'll be cheaper to make lots up to about 200 using CD-R than pressing them.
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use Oasis for duplicationIf you get 500 CDs from oasis, the price is $2.51 per CD. They say that includes:
High-quality (175-line screen) four-color printing (4/1) printing
Direct on-disc printing
Injection-molded CDs manufactured to stringent quality specifications (These are NOT CDrs/CD-one offs)
Jewel boxes and shrink-wrap
Inclusion of a track from your CD on one of our OASIS SAMPLER CDs, with free distribution to the vast majority of radio stations in the US that specialize in your musical genre
National distribution directly through Amazon.com--the biggest retailer on the Web--as well as through cdstreet and the beloved indie store CD Baby
Free barcode if desired
Ten Retail-ready display boxes
Naturally, the prices go up if you want a nicer insert with more room for lyrics and band photos, and they go down if you buy more CDs. No. I'm not affiliated with Oasis. Our band may put out a disc of our own soon, so we've been looking into duplication options, and they are the company that we like the best so far. If you want to look at some other good options for indie bands, check out the list of duplicators recommended by CD Baby. Some of them have even lower prices than Oasis. (but not as many free perks)
If you decided to use Oasis, you may want to talk to our rep, Alex (Alexandra) Vacek - she's been real helpful with all our odd questions.
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use Oasis for duplicationIf you get 500 CDs from oasis, the price is $2.51 per CD. They say that includes:
High-quality (175-line screen) four-color printing (4/1) printing
Direct on-disc printing
Injection-molded CDs manufactured to stringent quality specifications (These are NOT CDrs/CD-one offs)
Jewel boxes and shrink-wrap
Inclusion of a track from your CD on one of our OASIS SAMPLER CDs, with free distribution to the vast majority of radio stations in the US that specialize in your musical genre
National distribution directly through Amazon.com--the biggest retailer on the Web--as well as through cdstreet and the beloved indie store CD Baby
Free barcode if desired
Ten Retail-ready display boxes
Naturally, the prices go up if you want a nicer insert with more room for lyrics and band photos, and they go down if you buy more CDs. No. I'm not affiliated with Oasis. Our band may put out a disc of our own soon, so we've been looking into duplication options, and they are the company that we like the best so far. If you want to look at some other good options for indie bands, check out the list of duplicators recommended by CD Baby. Some of them have even lower prices than Oasis. (but not as many free perks)
If you decided to use Oasis, you may want to talk to our rep, Alex (Alexandra) Vacek - she's been real helpful with all our odd questions.
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Actual production costsIf you want to have CDs made in moderate volume, they're cheap. $1,485 for 1000 CDs, with jewel box, art on the disk itself, liner, shrinkwrap, barcode, etc. They even put your product on Amazon.
Airplay, though, in the Clear Channel era, is the problem. What's needed are some popular webcast channels of non-RIAA material.
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Re:Have you seen anyone copying newspapers?
Economy of scale plays a roll in CD's too. I can go to many small bands and buy a CD directly from them. It usually costs about $5 or so. The reason it's so expensive, is that they have small duplication runs. There are oodles of places which will duplicate CD's, and everyone of them the price decreases per disk as the run size inceases.
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Re:This explains a lot
I only checked one company, if you go here you'll see that for $3485 you get 5000 pressed cd's (no jewel case or sleeves). That's about $0.70 a piece. Considering how pathetic artist royalties are, this means a ridiculous profit margin for record companies (or whomever). The only thing I know of with a greater profit margin is soda (profit: about $0.95 on the dollar!), but at least in most restaurants they give you free refills.