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You can take a look at their official page. http://www.ohsu.edu/xd/about/initiatives/data-center-west.cfm

The tour video and text talk about plants outside filtering. The video around 3 minutes, shows additional filtering inside.

I suspect prevailing winds will really screw with the site cooling.

The "Virtual tour" has more details than the rest. Nothing about humidity.

Their security seems odd. They talk about the security being very strict. The video shows the inside of each "pod" to be open to the common hot air area in the upper part of the roof. So they have security, but you can get around it by not going through the doors. {sigh}

I never got the idea of sticking square boxes in a round hole. They're wasting a lot of good real estate by leaving all that extra space between the servers.

It seems like it was drawn up with an ideal world in mind, which usually doesn't translate well to the real world.

You heard it first here, folks. ShieldPuppy says we're all gonna die, all is woe, repent Ye and face damnation. The man knows the future, he's even from the future and thought so much about it he came here on Slashdot to inform us all of our fate, which is not good. A cave-dwelling existence is our ultimate destination, there's no escaping his analysis, he alone among us knows.

Here, have some data to substantiate my claims.

Changes in Workforce: Demographics and the Future of Work and Retirement
Dr. Jost Lottes
Institute on Aging
Portland State University

http://www.ohsu.edu/xd/researc...

Typical crap Roland summary. We've already got one in the Pacific NW:
http://www.ohsu.edu/ohsuedu/academic/som/radiationoncology/cyberknife-sw-washington-medical-center.cfm

Something about this seems off, though. I've seen MRIs and PET scans of alzheimers patients (I'm no doctor, but I work writing medical imaging software according to spec), and the thing that stands out most about them to me, as a layman, is the *lack* of tissue, not *extra* tissue that you would want to dissolve. Example from a quick google images search here (healthy 92-year old male left, 92-year old male AD patient right). I don't see how a drug that destroys plaques is going to reverse that.

Portland is home to New Seasons (8 locations) a natural/organic store similar to Whole Foods. There are two Whole Foods stores in the Portland area as well as several Wild Oats Marketplaces.

That makes three large natural/organic grocery chains in the area!

And if you don't want to have to leave home to get your natural foods there are at least two competing home delivery companies, Organics to You and Pioneer Organics!

There's also several natural food Co-Ops such as the People's Food Co-op and Food Front cooperative grocery. Last year the People's Co-op successfully tested an opensource POS system.

Portland also is home to OHSU (Oregon Health and Science University) home to several major research departments.

Portland's Indymedia site (Independant Media Center; IMC) is a large independant media outlet and one of the oldest and largest in the indymedia network.

The parent poster, little-known Slashdot user UnxMully, tried to beguile unsuspecting readers into believe that the experiment originated at the Oregon Institute of Science and Medicine, both by posting a quote about the OISM and ignoring the fact that TFA not only clearly states that the experiment is being conducted at the Oregon Health & Science University, specifically at the Oregon National Primate Research Center, but was even *originally published on the OHSU website*.

The parent post is a clear example of failing to RTFA or even its headline on Slashdot. The post was not based on a review of the article, nor was its poster expert in the various institutions with the words "Oregon" and "Science" in their names. In fact, the only criterion for creating the parent post was the ability to type. The post should not resurface in a renewed attempt to undermine reading comprehension.

I'd rather trust the Iraqi minister of propaganda than the Slashdot user UnxMully.

The parent poster, little-known Slashdot user UnxMully, tried to beguile unsuspecting readers into believe that the experiment originated at the Oregon Institute of Science and Medicine, both by posting a quote about the OISM and ignoring the fact that TFA not only clearly states that the experiment is being conducted at the Oregon Health & Science University, specifically at the Oregon National Primate Research Center, but was even *originally published on the OHSU website*.

The parent post is a clear example of failing to RTFA or even its headline on Slashdot. The post was not based on a review of the article, nor was its poster expert in the various institutions with the words "Oregon" and "Science" in their names. In fact, the only criterion for creating the parent post was the ability to type. The post should not resurface in a renewed attempt to undermine reading comprehension.

I'd rather trust the Iraqi minister of propaganda than the Slashdot user UnxMully.

The parent poster, little-known Slashdot user UnxMully, tried to beguile unsuspecting readers into believe that the experiment originated at the Oregon Institute of Science and Medicine, both by posting a quote about the OISM and ignoring the fact that TFA not only clearly states that the experiment is being conducted at the Oregon Health & Science University, specifically at the Oregon National Primate Research Center, but was even *originally published on the OHSU website*.

The parent post is a clear example of failing to RTFA or even its headline on Slashdot. The post was not based on a review of the article, nor was its poster expert in the various institutions with the words "Oregon" and "Science" in their names. In fact, the only criterion for creating the parent post was the ability to type. The post should not resurface in a renewed attempt to undermine reading comprehension.

I'd rather trust the Iraqi minister of propaganda than the Slashdot user UnxMully.

Source: Oregon Health & Science University

Born A Couch Potato? Each Persons' Activity Level Appears Intrinsic, Possibly Tied To Genetics

Research conducted by scientists at the Oregon National Primate Research Center at Oregon Health & Science University reveals that a person's level of activity is likely an intrinsic property of that individual. This means personal decisions to become more active for the purpose of losing weight may take more of a conscious effort than traditionally thought for certain people. The research is being presented during the Society for Neuroscience meeting in Washington, D.C., Nov. 12-16. It is one of the largest and most respected meetings of neuroscientists in the world.

"Previous research has revealed that increased physical activity can decrease the risk of obesity, coronary heart disease, respiratory disease, metabolic diseases like diabetes, anxiety, depression, breast cancer and colon cancer," said Elinor Sullivan, an OHSU graduate student conducting research at the Oregon National Primate Research Center. "Based on the wealth of benefits provided by regular exercise, doctors have often recommended that patients increase their level of physical activity. However, currently the factors that regulate an individual's average daily activity level, and the brain systems involved in regulating activity are not well understood. It is likely that these factors affect how easy it is for individuals to substantially increase activity through voluntarily exercise, and whether some people can more easily increase their activity than others."

To better understand the factors that can impact activity levels, the ONPRC scientists studied 17 female rhesus macaque monkeys housed in single cages compared to 12 female monkeys group housed in large pens (12 ft x 12 ft x 14 ft). The monkeys housed in large pens had more opportunities to forage for food and move around, as well as more chances to interact socially. To accurately measure activity levels, both groups of monkeys wore activity monitors attached to loose-fitting collars.

Data from the monitors in both groups of monkeys revealed that within each group there was great variability in animals' activity levels. The most active animals showed an eight-fold greater activity level than the most sedentary monkeys. However, surprisingly, individual animals' activity levels did not correspond to the size of their living area. In fact, some monkeys living in single cages demonstrated higher activity levels than monkeys living in larger housing areas.

The monkeys in the single cages were further studied for a six-month period and they showed consistent levels of activity through out this time. Sedentary monkeys remained sedentary, and active animals remained active.

A follow-up study was performed with an additional 10 monkeys, which were housed in single cages and then moved to larger group housing. Again, a high degree of individual variability was found in activity level. However, activity level did not significantly change when monkeys were moved between types of housing. Sedentary monkeys remained sedentary even when they had a great deal of space to move around in and companions to interact with, while active monkeys remained active even when they were housed in a smaller space with limited interaction with other monkeys.

"Overall, these findings suggest that it is likely to take a significant conscious effort to change one's level of physical activity and override one's intrinsic inclination to be active or inactive. To state it more plainly, if you're a couch potato, suddenly becoming active may be harder than you think," said Judy Cameron, Ph.D., senior scientist in the divisions of Reproductive Sciences and Neuroscience at the OHSU Oregon National Primate Research Center. "Our current findings build further on work we did last year showing that activity is more predictive of long-term changes in body weight than even diet. Wit

I didn't mean not to say "I had a great fuck last night", I meant you should go an entire month, while you are getting some on a regular basis from the same person, without refering to that person, no "my girlfriend", no "my boyfriend", no "my wife"... I am not just asking you to not talk about sex, I am asking you to not talk about relationships.

First, what evidence? Show me some. I'll be waiting a long time.

here is some.

sorry it took so long.

There are anatomical diferences between strait people and gay people. The acoustics of the lesbean inner ear is not like that of a straight woman's. Subtle features in the brains of gay men are not in the same proportions as they are in strait men. They have done twin studies, examined homosexuality in the animal kingdom, all uncovered physiological and/or anatomical differences between hetero and homosexuals. This is just the tip of the iceberg.

If you don't think this evidence is conclusive, fine. Denying that this evidence exists, makes you either ill informed, or willfully ignorant.

Portland, Oregon: Yeah, I'm biased, I was born at and grew up in the Elliot and West Slope neighborhoods. But it frequently is used for movie shoots. Antitrust was filmed and set in Portland and featured a car chase across town from someplace downtown eastside to a TV studio located where Raleigh Hills Elementary School is in real life (not sure what building they used for the movie, but it's nothing anywhere along Schools Ferry Road where the chase ended in the movie). More recently, The Hunted had a long chase all over downtown (with some movie magic to make geography more convienent), culminating in a fight on the roof of a TriMet MAX train (never mind that in real life, the train doesn't spend what seems like 30 miles on the Hawthorne Bridge (it goes about four blocks across the Steel Bridge and there haven't been tracks on the Hawthorne Bridge since Portland Traction went out of business decades ago), and that the overhead lines make standing on the roof of a moving train impossible).

Vancouver, British Columbia: The most generic American city on the planet. Most action movies you see set in American cities are filmed in Vancouver, anymore. Along Came a Spider was filmed in Vancouver, with some stock footage used between scenes to make it look more like Washington, DC. But watch the scenery: The street signs are uniquely Canadian, and you can spot more Vancouver, BC landmarks in the movie than Washington, DC landmarks. And Washington, DC doesn't have that many Douglas Fir trees. A couple decent car chases in that movie. It's also a favorite city to film Jackie Chan movies.

The scary thing is most of OHSU, including it's Oregon Graduate Institute of Technology and it's multiple medical research facilities, use Windows. Granted, when I need medical treatment, I'm not exactly going to be picky about those issues, but if they picked practically any other OS but Windows, it would save them the work of treating me for stomach irritation in addition to everything else.

1. "Either way you look at it there are still some negative implications "... implies only two possible opinions, both of which are yours. Problem: "having human cells in a mouse is bad because God says so" and "having human cells in a mouse is bad because they didn't evolve to be there" are not the only viable points of view. It is entirely possible to think that there's nothing bad about it at all. Even if the person who thinks so is very strange or immoral to you. It's totally irrelevant what you (let alone I) actually think, because the erroneous statement is that there are only two valid positions and that they both say there is something wrong with having human cells in a mouse.
   
2. Evolution itself dictates no belief about the properness of human cells being grown in mice. I brought up the reasons why we and mice are not the same population, not out of a desire to show off, but because you say "there is a reason why humans didn't evolve into Mice and vice versa if you believe in evolution" as the first step in your argument that evolution compels wariness of the research. If that reason is moral (it's the best way for things to be), as you imply, then you get your argument. But that reason isn't moral, it's factual. People aren't mice and mice aren't people, but evolution doesn't even say anything about whether it would be good if they were. In fact, if we had balls-out mouse and dog people (which actually has nothing to do with the article, but what the hell), evolution would only say anything about genetic change in those mouse and dog people created by the differences in their lifespans, abilities to breed, etc.
   
3. I really do think that your argument that research involving animals is not productive is based on a (perhaps earnest) lack of knowledge about what has been done with medical research using animals. What made me angry is that you didn't have any pause stating that medical research using animals was pointless despite any real lack of evidence. Instead, you cited a general failure to come up with a cure for the common cold. Not only does that have nothing directly to do with animal research (no one supposes that animal research, of all things, is a magic bullet for finding a cure for the common cold), but it relies on a silly assumption - that if animal research had done anything of value, it would have also fixed the common cold. That's why I said that the common cold isn't an easy problem to fix (that and my basic biology textbook knowledge that the common cold is actually a quickly changing and diverse population of virii, making it a moving target). In fact, the common cold doesn't even matter at all to the argument. If animal research (for whatever bizarre reason) were uniquely responsible for a cure for the common cold, that is no indication that it was or was not useful for other things. Try http://www.ohsu.edu/about/breakthroughs.shtml. Clearly it's your decision whether you think research with animals is *morally* OK, but there are real results which have nothing to do with the common cold.
   
4. "Pretty soon, as outlandish as it sounds, it not to far fetched to think that we'll have to include amendments in our constitution for civil rights for our pet dog Rover." This is a non sequitur because A) the article is about mice and not dogs B) the article is not about pets, but lab animals C) the article is about human cells kept in mice, not whole human brains being grown in super smart mice who act like people, a thing which no one really has any interest in doing.
   Certainly if the article were about people literally wanting to make mice into mouse-people you would be more justified to extrapolate out to dogs, and then to saying that we will need to include dogs in the constitution (if we are at all moral). But you've gotten so far from the article or what anyone is talking about that it's really completely absurd. The article is about some human cells in mice. These human cells are not themselves human, and they do not make the mice human unless you think that one is a person or not dependent merely on there DNA (which wouldn't be very consistent with the implication you set up that you believe in God).
   
5. FWIW, I don't think that you are stupid, rather too happy to piss on things you haven't bothered to find out much of anything about. Part of what is infuriating to me about it is that the knowledge involved is just simple stuff you'd get from paying attention in introductory (high school or college) biology. For example, it's a very basic thing about evolution that it's not spiritual or moral, but basically just the observation that some animals have more babies than others, and that some of this has to do with what was passed down from those animals' parents, with the result that stuff that works poorly tends to breed out over generations. The fact that you don't understand this suggests basic lack of experience, laziness, or an annoying persistence in misdefining evolution despite abundant correct definitions and attempts to explain it.
   

"...removing Microsoft's IPX/SPX compatible protocol and Novell's IPX 32-bit protocol from the dialup adapter bindings resolved the error."