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CentOS 6 doesn't. I know Centos doesn't track RHEL 100%, but that's a significant difference...

Incorrect, or you're just making shit up.

This is relevant to the discussion. Operative section:

Starting with version 6, however, CentOS has turned to a new and better init system – Upstart. Upstart is faster than System V init because it starts services simultaneously rather than one by one in a certain order. Upstart is also more flexible and robust, because it is event-based.

So, you were saying?

But Yahoo, Redit, and the discuss commenting on websites all use PostgreSQL and Facebook uses No-SQL for its web front end. Hoopla stack if I recall and Yahoo uses no-SQL as well when latency is important.

Well, look where the company management :
http://www.openlogic.com/company/team/

The first one ( COO ) is some ex-manager from Microsoft. Does Nokia/Elop ring a bell ?

I think Microsoft realised that RHEL is one of their serious competitor, and so want to erode their user database with such a move. I would not be surprised to see Microsoft as a investor of Openlogic ,and the fact that Olex interoperate with Exchange does seems weird.

The "article" is simply a poorly re-written press release presented as news. Within minutes of reading the article entirely, I was able to find the original press release on Google.

The press release is here:
http://www.openlogic.com/news/press/03.08.11.php

You'll note that the original press release doesn't contain the math error.

If you read the article aside from the summary leaving out iOS this is all really an advertisement to sell you a product from OpenLogic called OpenLogic Exchange (OLEX).

http://www.openlogic.com/products/olex.php
This product will certify your source code is compliant after it scans it...

Some companies have actually jumped onto this and have developed 'open source auditing software which looks for OSS sourcecode or installed software.

Take a look at the Silhouette Scanner page. I have no idea what it is like but it is quite shocking that it is being done. I imagine there is a market for this for large companies especially. If I was a large company and was outsourcing coding to other companies (or countries), I would want an automated tool to run back home to verify its integrity.

Although I imagine it can be abused equally. If you know what the open source product is and where it is, you could probably obfuscate it.

Found another one by OpenLogic but it does not sound automated.
Anybody know any others?

OK, that's three. We've only got 197 to go. If the point of this exercise is trying to determine how many applications are being used, then from that perspective they're all instances of Firefox.

Your approach answers one particular question, how many different versions of how many different applications are we using? That obviously matters in some cases like license management, but if the question is more along the lines of "how many open-sourced applications are we running," then I don't think versioning is all that relevant.

I'm not trying to argue about what's "fair," I'm just wondering how we get to 200. Let's suppose that your company has three or four different versions of every open-sourced application running. That still works out to something like 50-70 different applications which seems to me to be pretty high number. Particularly when most anecdotal evidence suggests that open-sourced applications are a rarity in many companies. It's taken me quite a while to convince my (small business/nonprofit) clients to adopt one or two of the most commonly-used open-sourced applications like Firefox, Thunderbird, and OpenOffice.

The only way I see getting to a number like 200 is if you count *nix servers. And, then, 200 is probably too small a number especially in Linux shops.

BTW, their list of discoverable software (XLS) doesn't include any versions of Firefox before 2.0.0 and doesn't list Thunderbird at all. On the other hand, they do list a number of different versions of server software like Apache (8 versions) and MySQL (17). This tends to confirm my original conjecture that a lot of the software counted toward this 200 figure is running on servers, and yes, they're probably counting different versions as different instances. There are also a lot of packages that are likely to be relevant only to development shops. Just going through the A's and B's required me to look up some things like activemq (about 80 versions), berkano (about 100 versions), and bouncycastle (about a dozen).

So I guess I'd conclude that this product might be highly relevant to development shops and server managers, but much less relevant for determining what's running on the desktops of firms outside the IT industry.

They're selling indemnification insurance. Open Logic is a capitalist enterprise, not some FOSS charity. They're in the business of monetizing FUD.

Looking at their list of partners I doubt their spreading FUD.

Windows versions:

http://www.openlogic.com/discovery/discoveryfiles/ discovery-ui-1.0-windows-ia32-jre.zip
http://www.openlogic.com/discovery/discoveryfiles/ discovery-commandline-1.0-windows-ia32-jre.zip
http://www.openlogic.com/discovery/discoveryfiles/ discovery-cli-1.0-windows-ia32.jar

Windows versions:

http://www.openlogic.com/discovery/discoveryfiles/ discovery-ui-1.0-windows-ia32-jre.zip
http://www.openlogic.com/discovery/discoveryfiles/ discovery-commandline-1.0-windows-ia32-jre.zip
http://www.openlogic.com/discovery/discoveryfiles/ discovery-cli-1.0-windows-ia32.jar

Windows versions:

http://www.openlogic.com/discovery/discoveryfiles/ discovery-ui-1.0-windows-ia32-jre.zip
http://www.openlogic.com/discovery/discoveryfiles/ discovery-commandline-1.0-windows-ia32-jre.zip
http://www.openlogic.com/discovery/discoveryfiles/ discovery-cli-1.0-windows-ia32.jar

Since they have an annoying form you have to fill out to get the download location I figured I'd save everybody the time and effort. Here's the page to all the downloads:

http://www.openlogic.com/discovery/new_download_no w.php

I don't think that would be in their interests. From the company's website:

OpenLogic is a leading provider of open source solutions that enable enterprises to safely acquire, support, and control open source software. OpenLogic provides enterprises with a certified library of open source software that encompasses hundreds of the most popular open source packages. With the broadest open source coverage in the industry, OpenLogic offers indemnification; updates; and enterprise-grade technical support backed by the OpenLogic Expert Community.

Granted, it would have been better if this software were FOSS itself, but maybe that will come in time. They are, after all, in business to make a profit.

Why Is Indemnification Important?
There are many benefits to using open source software, but in some cases there are lingering legal concerns around deploying open source in the enterprise. In order for enterprises to fully embrace a broad range of open source software, they need to be able to deploy, manage and control open source while limiting the associated legal and compliance risks. For the first time, enterprises can now access indemnification coverage for a broad range of open source products from a single vendor.

Check this page:

http://www.openlogic.com/partners/index.php

Clearly OpenLogic has certain ideas about what constitutes "good" open software.

I'm probably not alone curious and wanting to download this free app to (re)discover which OSS is installed on my computers... You can download it from here: http://www.openlogic.com/discovery/new_download_re gister.php?ls= and you need to give your name, email, location and some more before downloading the beast.

Legal Agreement:Please review the OpenLogic Expert Community Agreement If you are accepted to the OpenLogic Expert Community, you will be asked to read and accept the agreement.

'Assignments may be bugs, errors, problems or other issues associated with open source projects. OpenLogic will post assignments on the Committed Community website located at www.________.com '

(their underscores, not mine)

'If you develop any source code or other material as part of any assignment, you agree that you will provide a copy of the source code or other materials to OpenLogic.You also agree to assign to OpenLogic joint ownership in any and all worldwide copyrights, moral rights and other proprietary and intellectual property rights you have in the source code or other materials'

you will receive 100 points per incident you resove. [...] Points can be traded in for cash (100 points = $100 dollars) or merchandise (such as an Xbox 360).

Look a bit further through their website. You'll also find the FAQ which states that these "points" can be redeemed for cash. 100+ points/incident, 1 point = $1. So if you want the cash, that's $100/incident.

Try the third paragraph here.

Through the OpenLogic Expert Community, OpenLogic will pay qualified experts within the open source development community to provide in-depth support for open source products.

In addition to paying members of the OpenLogic Expert Community to resolve enterprise issues, OpenLogic will also contribute money for each issue resolved to a fund that will be used to help further open source efforts.

"We have heard loud and clear from our larger enterprise customers, some of whom are using more than 400 open source products, that they want one throat to choke for open source support," said Steven Grandchamp, CEO of OpenLogic.

From the OpenLogic Community FAQ:

Do I get paid to be a part of the Expert Community?
Yes, the OpenLogic Rewards program pays Expert Community members upon successful resolution of an incident. OpenLogic charges enterprise for support. OpenLogic's internal technical support team resolves basic issues. OpenLogic, in turn, contracts with members of the community to resolve more complex issues.