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working scrshot link
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Re:Internet Explorer getting better
An image that loads is here
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Re:Released?
opera 9 is currently in beta and available from the opera website
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Re:Konqueror passed 2nd
Wrote some lines about it here:
Acid rain - good for the environment!
http://my.opera.com/nicomen/blog/show.dml/174792 -
Seems to be a CSS issue?
I don't know if this helps at all, but when I view the page in Opera's User mode (as opposed to Author mode) which applies a custom stylesheet to the page, it renders just fine (all the text appears, anyhow; no scrolling problem).
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More elaborate history
Mark Wilton-Jones is running a little article on the history of the Opera and ACID test
There's a more useful history about it here (in reverse chronological order), describing what exactly the standard compliance problems were, and how they fixed them, starting with Opera 8.00.
And go to the Opera Desktop Team blog to download the actual build that works with this. However, note that this build should be treated like a Firefox nightly, and there may be some pretty serious rendering regressions, doing currently more damage to the layout engine than good from following the Acid2 test. ;-) -
Re:ACID passed, real world?
For example? Please keep in mind the article is referring to Opera 9.0 Preview 2 (latest snapshop, according to here), which Opera notifies against the use of previews.
preview- of an experimental nature
- distributed to a limited audience, i.e. forums, newsgroups, and IRC
- should never be installed over a final release
- not to be used as a substitute for a final release
- available for all users, but recommended only for advanced users
- thoroughly tested, though known to contain bugs
- usually feature-complete
- data backup is highly recommended before use
- intended for wide-scale release and use
- thoroughly tested and relatively free of critical problems
- should never be installed over a preview or beta
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Get the weekly
Remember that http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/show.dml/172
3 75the weekly which passes Acid2 has been released publicly :) -
Re:Google = "Rich Sugar Daddy"?
In the next version of Opera (Version 9), the keyboard layout will be almost the exact same as all of the other browsers. For instance, I am using Opera 9 Technical Preview 2 (http://labs.opera.com/news/2006/02/07/2/) and I can press CTRL-T and get a new tab and CTRL-N for a new window. It really angers some die-hard Opera fans, but I really agree why the developers at Opera changed the layout.
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Re:From-the-before-the-beginning-of-time dept.
The site looks good in Firefox, Opera, and IE.
Doesn't work at all for me in Opera 9.00 build 117 (Latest unix build). No search results, but the interface loads. -
Re:RTFA damn it!
Well yes, but when you have applications such as this one which is merely a standard web browser, then there isn't really any distinction.
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Re:Don't forget...
As for web browsers, you might want to try Opera for web browsing. Ever since I got a monitor that could display 1600x1200, I've been using its zoom function all the time; using 200% zoom gives me an excellent view for sites designed for 800x600 resolution, and 150% is great for sites designed for 1025x768. I'm not aware of a similar FireFox extension, as it didn't exist the last time I tried use it with the intent to switch from Opera (three times and counting), but I'm sure someone will point one out now. Just make sure it also resizes images and Flash objects before posting. Someone might also point out that my website (using a modified also doesn't use more than 800 width on most of the pages. Er, think of it as a "frame".
:P (In fact I've been wondering how to center it vertically... oh well). -
Re:Opera mobile
Or even Opera Mini.
Opera Mini(TM) is a fast and easy alternative to Opera's mobile browser, allowing users to access the Web on mobile phones that would normally be incapable of running a Web browser. This includes the vast majority of today's WAP-enabled phones.
Instead of requiring the phone to process Web pages, it uses a remote server to pre-process the page before sending it to the phone. This makes Opera Mini(TM) perfect for phones with very low resources, or low bandwidth connections.
Opera Mini(TM) offers the same speed and usability as the renowned Opera mobile browser, and uses Opera's Small Screen Rendering(TM) technology to provide access to the Web. It has all the features expected of a browser, and more, such as bookmarks, browsing history, and ability to split large pages into smaller sections for faster browsing. -
Opera mobileDoesnt Opera Mobile do the same?
"Opera Mobile browser lets you surf the full Web on your mobile phone. And when we say "the full Web," we really mean the *full* Web. Equipped with Opera's Small-Screen Rendering technology, the Opera Mobile browser lets you access any site on the Internet, just like you do on your computer."
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There's already a PHP script to do this..
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Re:My Picks
Opera supports multiple tabs on windows mobile
http://www.opera.com/download/mobile/?man=Windows+ Mobile -
Re:Why does Opera work well, and not Firefox?
Opera has none of these problems
Troll. Most Opera users 100% CPU usage problems. -
Re:Total cached page limit.
New patch available at http://www.opera.com/
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two viewing modes will be available
According to brianj (Opera employee) on the Opera forums:
"Opera will have two modes: fit-to-width mode (similar to what mobile users are already familiar with their mobile phones using the Opera Mobile browser). This mode will use Small Screen Rendering to fit the page across both screens. Alternatively, there is a DS mode which displays an overall page view on the lower screen (where you may use the touch screen to navigate around a sort of "mini map") and read the text on the top screen in full-sized view."
Don't know about small screen rendering? See here: http://www.opera.com/products/mobile/smallscreen/
Still not convinced? See what your website looks like on a small screen using the Opera Mini Simulator (which probably isn't exactly how it will look on the DS, but it's an approximation. The DS certainly has more screen real estate than my pathetic cell phone, anyway.)
Also, according to DS Advanced:
"The Opera software is currently slated to release in Japan during the month of June at the price of 3800 yen, roughly $30, and will include ATOK Kanji conversion software." -
two viewing modes will be available
According to brianj (Opera employee) on the Opera forums:
"Opera will have two modes: fit-to-width mode (similar to what mobile users are already familiar with their mobile phones using the Opera Mobile browser). This mode will use Small Screen Rendering to fit the page across both screens. Alternatively, there is a DS mode which displays an overall page view on the lower screen (where you may use the touch screen to navigate around a sort of "mini map") and read the text on the top screen in full-sized view."
Don't know about small screen rendering? See here: http://www.opera.com/products/mobile/smallscreen/
Still not convinced? See what your website looks like on a small screen using the Opera Mini Simulator (which probably isn't exactly how it will look on the DS, but it's an approximation. The DS certainly has more screen real estate than my pathetic cell phone, anyway.)
Also, according to DS Advanced:
"The Opera software is currently slated to release in Japan during the month of June at the price of 3800 yen, roughly $30, and will include ATOK Kanji conversion software." -
two viewing modes will be available
According to brianj (Opera employee) on the Opera forums:
"Opera will have two modes: fit-to-width mode (similar to what mobile users are already familiar with their mobile phones using the Opera Mobile browser). This mode will use Small Screen Rendering to fit the page across both screens. Alternatively, there is a DS mode which displays an overall page view on the lower screen (where you may use the touch screen to navigate around a sort of "mini map") and read the text on the top screen in full-sized view."
Don't know about small screen rendering? See here: http://www.opera.com/products/mobile/smallscreen/
Still not convinced? See what your website looks like on a small screen using the Opera Mini Simulator (which probably isn't exactly how it will look on the DS, but it's an approximation. The DS certainly has more screen real estate than my pathetic cell phone, anyway.)
Also, according to DS Advanced:
"The Opera software is currently slated to release in Japan during the month of June at the price of 3800 yen, roughly $30, and will include ATOK Kanji conversion software." -
Re:This truly shows the versatility of Opera.
My guess is that its similar to Opera mini, which does all layout in a pre-processing proxy. If the real opera engine is running anywhere its on that proxy, not on the DS.
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Re:So I'll be the first to say it....
Did you try the right versions?
Opera for FreeBSD [ Intel ]
Opera for Solaris [ Sparc ] -
Re:So I'll be the first to say it....
Did you try the right versions?
Opera for FreeBSD [ Intel ]
Opera for Solaris [ Sparc ] -
Re:Simple solution
Right...
"I need 4gb of RAM please."
"What for, are you a graphic artist?"
"No, I want to surf the web."
uh huh.
I have another, even simpler solution, that doesn't require you to pay anything:
Opera -
Re:Taking it to the next level
Also good to point out that Opera is an excellent browser for safe surfing. Even if they went back a few versions of Opera to add to this study as well, it would kick both IE and FF in terms of safer browsing.
Think Smart - User Opera - http://www.opera.com/ -
Re:Not just a web browserOur smallest client is smaller than that, at 55KB (though the full-featured Opera Mini client is just below 100KB).
The reason why we need them so small is that size matters when on phones and embedded devices, and as phones get more powerful there are other devices coming in on the low end. As these devices not only come with little memory but also usually very slow processors (to save both money and battery), speed matters too. Thus we optimise for speed and memory, and we optimise pretty hard.
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I had no idea about dashboard!
Interesting. I honestly had no idea.
I did some quick googling, and it seems Dashboard doesnt support SVG. Thats one of the biggest draws for me, being able to really build a complete UI "simply". Compiling a UI out of CSS, on the other hand, sounds "not fun". I wouldnt know where to begin piecing things together.
What methods of communication do dashboard widgets have? Standard Safari class XmlHttpRequest, I assume?
I'd be interested to see how much DOM support Dashboard has. Try some of the examples on Opera's widget devel; I'd be impressed if it supported mutable transparency.
Thanks tho, I really had no idea about dashboard. -
Question
What exactly does Opera sell these days to make money?
Do the sales of their "mobile" browser really generate that much cash flow? Like... enough for them to keep pushing hard to innovate on developing the desktop browser? -
Not just a web browser
With widgets (new in Opera9 Tech-Preview 2, examples here), opera is not only a web browser, its truly an application platform, capable of running independent programs. The current examples are true to the namesake, widgets, little gizmo's to show time &what not, but its the first time the graphical web is begin used as more than a browser page.
A little bit of polish is needed, but basically it's the only platform available for developing real SVG applications.
I hope Opera attempts to bring some real conformance to this entirely new class of web application. If it gets too proprietary its useless.
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Not just a web browser
With widgets (new in Opera9 Tech-Preview 2, examples here), opera is not only a web browser, its truly an application platform, capable of running independent programs. The current examples are true to the namesake, widgets, little gizmo's to show time &what not, but its the first time the graphical web is begin used as more than a browser page.
A little bit of polish is needed, but basically it's the only platform available for developing real SVG applications.
I hope Opera attempts to bring some real conformance to this entirely new class of web application. If it gets too proprietary its useless.
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Re:Tab movement
I see what you mean.
Would you please post it to:
http://my.opera.com/community/forums/forum.dml?id= 24
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Re:XSLT support added
A major development is the addition of XSLT support using a native XSLTProcessor object just like Mozilla. This is significant because Opera has been strongly opposing XSLT for a long time now. Web developers using XSLT for the presentation layer would find this news heartening.
That isn't quite true. We have been sceptical to XSL-FO, and we still are, but have been neutral/pragmatic on XSLT. Server-side Opera.com has been using XSLT for years and I think there should be different best practices client-side and server-side and I don't think the usecase for client-side XSLT is reducing server load, but when it is used for the benefit of the user it can be a good idea.
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Re:XSLT support added
A major development is the addition of XSLT support using a native XSLTProcessor object just like Mozilla. This is significant because Opera has been strongly opposing XSLT for a long time now. Web developers using XSLT for the presentation layer would find this news heartening.
That isn't quite true. We have been sceptical to XSL-FO, and we still are, but have been neutral/pragmatic on XSLT. Server-side Opera.com has been using XSLT for years and I think there should be different best practices client-side and server-side and I don't think the usecase for client-side XSLT is reducing server load, but when it is used for the benefit of the user it can be a good idea.
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Re:Good :D
The equivalent technology is called User JavaScript with Opera. Greasemonkey scripts can be run in Opera, a tutorial has more detail. You can also run User JavaScript, which you could find for instance on the userjs.org site.
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Re:Additional links
Lets not forget the Kiosk feature , giving you command line switches to lock down the browser for an internet cafe or kiosk. Firefox is extremely difficult to lock down in this way, and requests for similar features have been turned down by the developers.
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Re:A darn good job.You can't seriously mean you can draw a conclusion about standards compliance from one issue you had with a webpage you were writing yourself.
Since you did not provide us with a link to the site, it is very hard for us to tell what is going on.
If Opera 8 was so perfect then why does Opera 9 work where 8 didn't. Funny that 9 renders the CSS the way Firefox and Safari does.
It could be a bug in Opera 8 (Opera definitely has bugs in its CSS implementation; there is no bugfree software), but there are also other possibilities.
Maybe your code is not perfect and the way buggy (non-standard) code is handled changed in Opera 9.
Maybe the standard was not clear and Opera decided to change their previous interpretation and behavior to match with IE and FF.
But if you really wanted a solution, you would not complain here on slashdot but report the issue in the Opera forums.
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Re:FlashBlockQuoth ne0n
When I find a Flashblock extension for Opera I'll give 'er another shot. Until then, it's basically useless.
I'm not familiar with the Flashblock extension, but is this what you want?Improved content blocker Cosmetic surgery for Web pages. Just right click on a page and select block content. Any content not greyed out can be blocked with a click. Select done and see the page the way you want.
From http://labs.opera.com/news/2006/02/07/2/ -
Tips & Tricks after a days use
Been using this now and tried to find all the hidden goodies, and here's my few tips. Note that all shortcuts mentioned are only tested on Windows:
- Right-click in a search field and select "Create search" to define a new search with a shortcut. The shortcut can now be used at the address bar just like "g define:slashdotted" can.
- You can press "F2" and type "slashdot" and you will go to http://slashdot.org/
- CTRL-B is a keyboard shortuct for Paste & go
- F12 gives you a Quick Preferences menu
- Tools-> Preferences-> Advanced-> Shortcuts-> Mouse setup-> Edit-> Application will give you the mouse gestures. I changed "GestureUp" to this: "Enter fullscreen & view address bar, 2 | leave fullscreen & Go" , changed "GestureDown, GestureUp" to "Wand" and added "GestureLeft, GestureRigth" to be "Stop"
- On any page, hit "." (dot) to get a non-intrusive search on the page
- Right-click on the page and try the "Block Content.." function, it's very nicely implemented
- You can create your own buttons
- Create your own Widgets using HTML, CSS, JavaScript, SVG and AJAX, and they _should_ work on all platforms the TP2 is available on.
- I like Tools-> Preferences-> General-> '[ ]Show close button on each tab' to make the interface less cluttered, and rather use my middle-button to close tabs.
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Re:Good :D
From http://snapshot.opera.com/windows/w90p2.html:
Multiple fixes for XPath and XSLT.
getAttribute and related methods now retrieve the specified value of URIs, instead of resolved values.
Enabled getElementById to retrieve elements based on attributes set to the ID type, by the DTD.
Many path() fixes
Among others, these are stuff that add more support for the scripts at userscripts.org -
Additional links
Here are some additional links with more information and screenshots, so you won't have to wade through all of the Opera forums to find them:
- The Slashdot Widget
- Pictorial walkthrough of Opera 9
- UserJS.org -- Granted, Opera can run many Greasemonkey scripts, the userjs.org feature of Opera allows some additional capabilities. These scripts are all compatible with Opera, and have undergone QA to verify that scripts are non-malicious, and as efficient as possible
- Widget developer tutorial - If you want to get started writing widgets, here's where to go
- Screenshots and explanations around the tab (and ctrl-tab) thumbnails
- Opera Search engine customization
- In-depth information about the content blocker
- Opera User stylesheet information
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Additional links
Here are some additional links with more information and screenshots, so you won't have to wade through all of the Opera forums to find them:
- The Slashdot Widget
- Pictorial walkthrough of Opera 9
- UserJS.org -- Granted, Opera can run many Greasemonkey scripts, the userjs.org feature of Opera allows some additional capabilities. These scripts are all compatible with Opera, and have undergone QA to verify that scripts are non-malicious, and as efficient as possible
- Widget developer tutorial - If you want to get started writing widgets, here's where to go
- Screenshots and explanations around the tab (and ctrl-tab) thumbnails
- Opera Search engine customization
- In-depth information about the content blocker
- Opera User stylesheet information
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Additional links
Here are some additional links with more information and screenshots, so you won't have to wade through all of the Opera forums to find them:
- The Slashdot Widget
- Pictorial walkthrough of Opera 9
- UserJS.org -- Granted, Opera can run many Greasemonkey scripts, the userjs.org feature of Opera allows some additional capabilities. These scripts are all compatible with Opera, and have undergone QA to verify that scripts are non-malicious, and as efficient as possible
- Widget developer tutorial - If you want to get started writing widgets, here's where to go
- Screenshots and explanations around the tab (and ctrl-tab) thumbnails
- Opera Search engine customization
- In-depth information about the content blocker
- Opera User stylesheet information
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Additional links
Here are some additional links with more information and screenshots, so you won't have to wade through all of the Opera forums to find them:
- The Slashdot Widget
- Pictorial walkthrough of Opera 9
- UserJS.org -- Granted, Opera can run many Greasemonkey scripts, the userjs.org feature of Opera allows some additional capabilities. These scripts are all compatible with Opera, and have undergone QA to verify that scripts are non-malicious, and as efficient as possible
- Widget developer tutorial - If you want to get started writing widgets, here's where to go
- Screenshots and explanations around the tab (and ctrl-tab) thumbnails
- Opera Search engine customization
- In-depth information about the content blocker
- Opera User stylesheet information
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Additional links
Here are some additional links with more information and screenshots, so you won't have to wade through all of the Opera forums to find them:
- The Slashdot Widget
- Pictorial walkthrough of Opera 9
- UserJS.org -- Granted, Opera can run many Greasemonkey scripts, the userjs.org feature of Opera allows some additional capabilities. These scripts are all compatible with Opera, and have undergone QA to verify that scripts are non-malicious, and as efficient as possible
- Widget developer tutorial - If you want to get started writing widgets, here's where to go
- Screenshots and explanations around the tab (and ctrl-tab) thumbnails
- Opera Search engine customization
- In-depth information about the content blocker
- Opera User stylesheet information
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Re:Impressive
please post that website url here, or better, at the Opera forums.
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Other useful links
While we're on the topic of bonus links, here are some other useful resources for people who just downloaded Opera 9.0tp2:
Widgets user guide
Search engine customization tutorial
Content blocking tutorial
Setup info for tab thumbnails
(Regarding that last one, I am still convinced that tab thumbnails are kind of silly, and that Opera's tiling function is already much more useful. See here: The Problem with Tab Thumbnails) -
Other useful links
While we're on the topic of bonus links, here are some other useful resources for people who just downloaded Opera 9.0tp2:
Widgets user guide
Search engine customization tutorial
Content blocking tutorial
Setup info for tab thumbnails
(Regarding that last one, I am still convinced that tab thumbnails are kind of silly, and that Opera's tiling function is already much more useful. See here: The Problem with Tab Thumbnails) -
Other useful links
While we're on the topic of bonus links, here are some other useful resources for people who just downloaded Opera 9.0tp2:
Widgets user guide
Search engine customization tutorial
Content blocking tutorial
Setup info for tab thumbnails
(Regarding that last one, I am still convinced that tab thumbnails are kind of silly, and that Opera's tiling function is already much more useful. See here: The Problem with Tab Thumbnails) -
Other useful links
While we're on the topic of bonus links, here are some other useful resources for people who just downloaded Opera 9.0tp2:
Widgets user guide
Search engine customization tutorial
Content blocking tutorial
Setup info for tab thumbnails
(Regarding that last one, I am still convinced that tab thumbnails are kind of silly, and that Opera's tiling function is already much more useful. See here: The Problem with Tab Thumbnails)