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RSS, flickr and del.icio.us on a Mobile Phone
Roger Whittaker writes to tell us Engadget reports that Mobileglu is offering an interesting new service that gives users the ability to read RSS feeds, flickr, del.icio.us, and other sources of content in a mobile friendly format. Think this will lead to smarter content developers making their own sites more mobile friendly, or just a few lawsuits?
Think this will lead to smarter content developers making their own sites more mobile friendly, or just a few lawsuits?
Most likely these content providers will sit and see what comes out of this.
If it isn't popular, MobileGLU will die out itself; If it's popular, these content providers will invite MobileGLU to pay up, or file an injunction to shut it down while they start providing the service themselves.
Not many company can manage to live off someone else's content for free, the one that stands out is obviously the Beast, which is also constantly under attack by content providers.
To be successful, MobileGLU really needs to hit the market hard and fast, that is to make sure these content providers need its service more than it needs their content.
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"Opera Mobile browser lets you surf the full Web on your mobile phone. And when we say "the full Web," we really mean the *full* Web. Equipped with Opera's Small-Screen Rendering technology, the Opera Mobile browser lets you access any site on the Internet, just like you do on your computer."
This is kind of like Mobile RSS.
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frankly speaking, it is excellent. try to beat that.
1. create bloglines account, subscribe to couple of feeds.
2. swithch to mobile version
http://bloglines.com/mobile
3. read all your news in a friendly format (I mostly use it behind my PC as it is just so simple)
http://bloglines.com/myblogs_subs
Ahhh... Flikr on my mobile... I wonder if Tim Berners-Lee still weeps from time to time or he has just become so jaded he doesn't care.
/no pictures of wenk because this ain't fark.
//hey... no slashies either!!!
///darnit, where'd I put my owl?
Try Novarra's nWeb, its better than all others in rendering mobile content on the cell phones. http://www.novarra.com/
Now we will have mobile 2.0 hype.
sulli
RTFJ.
We just heard M$ tell us that Cell phones were too expensive and that they were going to save us with WiFi+Voip.
Now we have a service that will cost a fortune in many markets.
Which is it?...too expensive or attractively priced?
Not many company can manage to live off someone else's content for free
worked for Google news/images/web and for them its a billion dollar earner
he could argue that he is merely a search engine indexing and caching the content
after all thats what Google does so their arguments can be his
Google has never moved past the leech stage, they dice up content sucked from anywhere they can find it. Their ads are spam. The user did not ask for them; GOOG gets paid for them. The Anti-leech http://www.customizegoogle.com/
Expose some xml data, and I can get at it w/ some simple xpath/xsl/xquery voodoo, mix and match with other data, refactor into my thing, which is itself exposed, other people query it, mix it, ad infinitum. Here are some of CNN's current top story titles:
doc("http://rss.cnn.com/rss/cnn_topstories.rss")/
Where do I cross the line from 'fair use' to 'copyright infringement'? If I run a query that returns something like:
<value>1</value>
...I think it would be hard to argue that I've violated anyone's rights, no matter how widely I disseminate this information. If however I suck down an author's entire oeuvre and spit it out for anyone else to use, then I've probably stepped on somebody toes. So where do you draw the line? I really have no idea.
... would suffice.
If there is a copyright notice associated with xml data, then at some point you may also very well be obligated to copy and redistribute the copyright notice along with the data. Should there be a standard way of associating xml copyrights with xml data, so that the copyright notice could be part of the standard xml query? Nothing complicated, something as simple as
If you look at cnn's rss feed page summary, you can see that they put their terms of use out-of-band on the webpage. Nothing in the xml data itself gives any indication about what the copyright terms are (the copyright holder is identified).
Of course, it would be nice if copyright authors could be really terse with such things, as it gets to be a little cumbersome to be transferring huge copyright notices along with little xml queries. Maybe copyrights should be uri's.
Anyway, the main point is that because xml queries span the gamut from atomic data points to petabytes of data, and because the whole point of xml is to simplify the copying and transmission of data, they make an interesting case study about how to define sensible boundary conditions for copyright application.
and then there is always flickr mobile:
http://www.flickr.com/mob
I'm using my Nokia 9300 and /. RSS right now and have been for at least a month. The simple way is to peronalize a Google Home page a add all your RSS feeds to it. Then, log in to your google account from any WEP browser and volia, google reformats your pages for you.
Even forms and images come through just fine. This whole message was posted using it.
-S
Google has never moved past the leech stage, they dice up content sucked from anywhere they can find it. Their ads are spam. The user did not ask for them; GOOG gets paid for them. The Anti-leech http://www.customizegoogle.com/
Slashdot has never moved past the leech stage, they dice up content sucked from anywhere they can find it. Their ads are spam. The user did not ask for them; Slashdot gets paid for them. The Anti-leech http://www.customizeslashdot.com/
ok, i just signed up for the 'web access' on my new v3 razr phone through my local provider a few weeks ago.
this so called 'internet on phones' is even more ridiculous than the concept of playing games on celphones.
1) the web-browser is SOO slow - takes a LONG time to initialize...
2) they make you navigate through 3 or 4 screens before you can even type in an 'http://' address, each of which is hideously slow and probably costing me money because it's actually navigating some website on my providers network
3) viewing an image heavy site like flikr on a phone? you've GOT to be kidding me - let alone the fact that most celphone users are paying by the kb...
all adds up to 'yet more hype around celphones' that basically is a waste of time and money for the consumer.
no thanx
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Good day, sir:
I'm from the RSS Weed 'n Feed, and I'm here to congratulate you on your COMPLETE FAILURE.
Have a remarkable day.
--RSS Weed 'n Feed
AvantGo has been doing this for many years! I remember using it when I bought my Palm V at JavaOne in 1998. It'll take any web page and let you read it on your PDA (or smart phone).
Flickr already has a mobile phone interface, what's the point of building another?
GCHQ Quantum Insert installed. If only our tongues were made of glass, how much more careful we would be when we speak