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Look, every Nokia phone around you having an operating system (symbian) has Opera installed.

IE for mobile exists, it is a sad joke.

Opera Mini runs on ANY J2ME (midlet) enabled phone. It is so good that I could post this reply using that 95kb wonder. I am signed into Slashdot even using that.

Wireless World is different. Opera is the king there.
http://opera.com/products/

I got my first taste of personal computers in 1999, I got a laptop with Windows 98se and had nothing but problems. I determined that it was broken-i.e. a poorly designed tool. The majority of the people I questioned about this said, "it's just the way it is, accept it." I am not one to keep a broken tool-as I build houses among other things (http://my.opera.com/emotional1/albulms/), so I searched around and someone suggested Linux. As I had no computer experience it seemed to me that it did not matter which way I went-Linux or Microsoft-I would have to learn. That has been over five years ago and I have many computers and just recently switched my mother to Linux-because it just works. BTW My mother is very practical-she just wants it to work-I can't blame her. Microsoft is very busy trying to hold on to it's market share which has always appeared to be more important than spending much needed resources on its basic tool-Windows OS-any version. I am grateful every day that I made the right choice- and when a friend asks me if I will fix their computer I tell them I will fix it by replacing Windows. I feel for you, it sucks when you buy something that 'sort of' works, only to find out that they are already focussing on the next version-which will follow the same tired pattern, instead of fixing what they shipped 'unfinished' in the first place. It is nice that some guy wrote a patch to fix this, that's the kind of spirit that I have found using Linux over these past years--BTW I do contribute money to the projects that I use frequently and am available to spread the word that there is an alternative to Windows.

See the posts by sgunhouse on this thread: http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml?id= 73577. Some are just forum administration details, but a couple have the info you want.

You mean, as in the Opera Platform for mobiles?

Opera has supported XML since version 4 (2000), and XML namespaces since version 5.11 (2001) though there are a couple missing namespace related features like CSS3 selection of namespaced attributes that are forthcoming. SVG is moving from extended SVGT profile in Opera 8 to SVGB in Opera 9. Personally I think SVG Fast is more interesting than SVG Full but we'll see what happens in the future. MathML isn't currently on the roadmap. We have supported XML Events since Opera 8, XML ID is coming with Opera 9. XLink simple links is supported, but I think that is a much inferiour solution to CSS linking. XPath is coming up in Opera 9, as is XSLT but we have absolutely no desire to support XSL-FO.

This article on Opera's UA string should give the information you need.

But we don't encourage browser sniffing, object detection is a much better method to give the right content to browsers. Instead of "If your name is John cut my hair" do "If you're a hairdresser cut my hair".

If you do browser detection check for version number and be prepared that browser sniffing is a high maintenance technique. Browsers constantly change and every browser sniffing script will become obsolete, doing more harm than good in the long run.

We lost screen reader integration capabilities in Opera 7 (fully at 7.1) with the change of rendering engine. We are working on getting it back but it won't happen for Opera 9.0. If you have suggestions or proposals for where we could do better please drop by our accessibility forum.

"Opera has been surpassed by KHTML-based browsers for standards compliance"

"and the open source Mozilla browsers function as well as Opera does PLUS are open source and are supported by hundreds of browser extension plugins and are highly customizable, Opera has become less attractive as an MSIE alternative."

Me, I like integration, and bolting on different extensions doesn't give you integration.

"Recently with Opera having been released as a free product, I'm wondering how your company can sustain itself."

"however with MSIE being bundled into Windows CE, it's got to be tough to compete and convince OEMs that licensing your browser in addition to Windows CD is a wise business choice"

"So I and I'm sure that everyone else here is wondering: what is your goal? Is it to build an MSIE replacement to encourage a Microsoft buyout?"

"How is Opera expecting to survive in the face of free extensible open-source browsers?"

As long as this world has a lot of different people with different needs there will be a market for different kinds of browsers.

"Now that Opera is free and is not even supported by ads, where is your revenue stream coming from?"

Details...

Oh, and Opera is already trying to get the standard Opera mobile browser as the default browser on various handsets/operators.

Explanation.

Will you please see to it that this bug is fixed promptly? Or, more accurately, that the fix is released promptly? This is the sole reason that I dislike using Opera.

"On the core side we have fixed many crashes and we have also added support for opacity.
These are just some of the things happening in our cubicles right now."

"On the core side we have fixed many crashes and we have also added support for opacity.
These are just some of the things happening in our cubicles right now."

"On the core side we have fixed many crashes and we have also added support for opacity.
These are just some of the things happening in our cubicles right now."

I recently discovered Opera Mini, and now routinely browse the web not on my notebook, but on my cell phone, a Sony Ericsson K750i.

(For those of you who haven't yet tried Opera Mini, it's a Java-based web browser for cell phones, using Opera's Small Screen Rendering. The pages themselves are rendered on Opera's server, and are then transmitted to the cell phone in a highly efficient, binary format.)

Opera Mini is obviously revolutionary, in that it allows cell phone users to have a full web experience, without having to resort to specially designed sites. It's further proof that a "mobile web" is clearly redundant, and that cell phones (and other "small devices") can be first-class citizens on the Internet.

You claim that Opera Mini will remain free. Yet I would be surprised if you didn't intend to make money off Opera Mini somehow. To the extent that you are at liberty to disclose such details, are you negotiating with handset makers, to have this technology included in cell phones? Are you planning on supplying the web browser for most cell phones in the future, replacing the abysmal software that is currently bundled?

Did you know Opera is a free download? Download it and try it out yourself and find out why you should use it!

Firefox's feature set is a subset of Opera's, so you'll only be getting new features, along with less code bloat and no giant memory leak.

Does Opera have any plans to improve the cookie managing ability of its browser?

There never was any spyware in Opera. Back when it was ad-supported, the information that was provided to ad partners was basically what was required to send you targetted ads. This page has the details.

It's coming in Opera 9. Note that CSS3 is a work in progress (CSS3 selectors are about to become a candidate recommendation, I think, and everything else is a working draft.)

Opacity is on the way in for Opera 9 :-)
http://my.opera.com/olli/blog/show.dml/81711

We believe in a patent-free Web. Opera Software does not believe innovation in the software industry is protected or encouraged by software patents. In particular, we believe interoperability on the Internet should be encouraged, and we actively work to ensure that software patents do not stand in the way of interoperability.

The 9.0 technology preview mentions XSLT at least, so I guess it is in the works.

Changelog: http://snapshot.opera.com/unix/u90p1.html

Soooo...
Are you a good swimmer?
Are you going to try again? :D

Wow, Firefox is so innovative!

Sorry, but this is far from a "good implementation". First off, it's an extension, so there are probably going to be next to no new BT users that wouldn't have been able to use another client anyway.

Second, the implementation you are talking about, which could hopefully introduce more widespread (legal) use of BitTorrent to conserve bandwidth, is Opera's integration of a BitTorrent client back in July.

Anyway, judging by the screenshots (coralcached), this is really not that similar to a regular BitTorrent client anyway. It actually seems more like a FastTrack client to me, what with the friends and the browsing shared lists and stuff.. perhaps BitTorrent is just chucked in there as an add-on? In any event, I don't see it being any better than Opera's BT (which is not very good/configurable).

One of the main problems that people need to get over to get BT to work well is connectability. I would say most people these days are unconnectable when they first start using BT (behind a firewall/NAT and can't accept incoming connections) and this is a big barrier to BT becoming something that anyone can use.

but it raises an excellent point.
I've no idea what that point is. I think it may be that he believes that the only way that people know which program to use is if it is spelled out in full:
"MicroSoft Windows Web Browser"
"MicroSoft Windows program to play music and video files"
"Adobe program to manipulate photos, images and pictures"
If that's all you want, create a menu item that takes up half the screen:
"GNU Image Manipulation Program"
Sorry, I guess that was not the point he was trying to make, was it?

The author seems to be lacking in depth of experience, implying that GIMP, Opera and FireFox are "Linux applications" only.

You don't even have to pay to use it without adverts anymore!

This last statement answers the question why I found Firefox better than Opera. The primary reason I wanted to get away from IE was to get away from "in your face" advertising. And it appears you still have to purchase Opera to use it without adverts.

I'll accept that Opera is smaller and faster. But I don't accept that "best browser" is soley defined by being "smaller" and "faster" especially when they're given in non-meaningful terms.

You also seem to have the pretty theme disabled. Shots of that can be found here: http://opera.com/docs/screenshots/

And just to show how customizable the UI is, here's how I like my Opera:
http://img399.imageshack.us/my.php?image=operascre en5co.png

And yes, there are skins to make it look like FireFox or Safari, but some people will complain no matter what because they are afraid to give Opera a chance.

Her photo album has a picture of Ryan Reynolds actor in such films as Blade Trinity, the remake of the Amytville Horror, Van Wilder, etc.

http://my.opera.com/berit/albums/showpic.dml?album =2954&picture=21296
I guess it figures though.

Berit, if you're reading these posts you should feel beautiful right now. Because you are.

Berit's boyfriend, if you're reading these posts I'm sure you feel totally creeped out knowing that 10,000 nerdy guys from all around the world are drooling over your girlfriend.

Haha! Lol!

You may want to view this: http://my.opera.com/larskl/blog/show.dml/11628

Of course, all they have to do is sell their company boat.

http://www.opera.com/swim/

She has hottie friends too. For example Yenny Marissa the Software developer / UI designer.

I think I'll too have to call her about this rumour.

Extract of a chat with Jon held earlier this year:

Q: Hi I've been using opera from Opera 4 . And after four years I still have it - in fact I can't live without it! If Bill Gates wanted to buy Opera, do you accept it ?

Jon S. von Tetzchner: Hi Shima, thank you for using the best browser year after year! The answer to your question is simple: No. We would never sell Opera to Microsoft in a million years. Best regards, Jon.

Disclaimer: Yeah, I'm an Opera fanboi! What's it to ya?

Opera Mini is a cut down Java MIDP based browser.

However real opera mobile only has a 14 day trial
http://www.opera.com/products/mobile/products/

In Opera's site there are more useful tips for developers, see Authoring for Small-Screen Rendering (SSR) and linked pages. Not a lot, but much more than in this article which still assumes web developers don't know the benefits of XHTML, CSS and how to make the stylesheet external, and doesn't go much beyond hiding images and document order.

On a handheld device, rendering (displaying) is a bottleneck for mobile browsers, simply because the CPU is much slower. So you will skip any preliminary heavy rendering job before you have all CSS in place.

The CSS fundamentaly affects what needs to be downloaded, and what will actually be displayed.

For example using Opera in small screen rendering mode (Shift+F11) you only apply handheld stylesheet (if found), in print preview mode (shift+P) only the print stylesheet is applied, and in fullscreen mode (F11) the projection stylesheet is applied.

The actual order would be:

1. Fetch and parse HTML while downloading (this usually makes you wait)
2. Retrieve any CSS and frames (pipeline on established connection)
3. Parse CSS and request inlines (pipeline on established connection)
4. Render & display
5. Update as images and objects are retreived until finished

On handheld, cache is king.
The CSS will be cached for the next page.

Do I have to pay for Opera Mini? No, Opera Mini is free to download and use and does not require any registration fee. Your service provider may charge you for the text messages and network traffic. Pages are reformatted and compressed before being sent to the phone, so they only use about one fifth of their normal amount of traffic.

Opera 9 supports opacity. Why is it shocking that earlier versions don't though? The CSS 3 colour module that defines the opacity property only reached candidate recommendation status two years ago, the browsers that do support it only added support last year, and Internet Explorer only has a proprietary alternative, not supporting the standard way at all.

While opera is a faster, more stable browser (probably because it isn't open source) and is loaded with many great features, those features are it.

No those features aren't it. Between, buttons, pannels, UserJs, menu setups, and Opera mini programs Anyone can do a lot to add functionality to their Opera. The key addable feature, of course, is an ad blocker program.

It's also fairly easy to make changes to operas .ini files yourself. You don't need to download an extension just to add an "Open in IE" to your right click menu.

With Firefox you can download extensions to make tabbed browsing even better than just having multiple tabs. You can download extensions to label and organize tabs and give the ability to drag them, and to have pages that should open in a new window, open in a new tab instead.

Wow you can drag tabs? How amazing! Wouldn't it be great if you could do those things out of the box? Wouldn't it be great if the tab focus order was based off order of viewing just like the Windows task bar? That would be sweet.

Where Opera really beats Firefox is in the download manager. There is just no comparison. I'm still shocked that Firefox lacks a spell checker(except google toolbar), when both Opera and Safari have one.

http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml?id= 116183&t=1134691009&page=1#comment1291667

The rest of what I said was not a troll, however.

lots of people swear by those Greasemonkey extensions, dunno if that's in Operaland yet.

Opera had it first. Opera calls it UserJS and they even added Greasemonkey compatibility after it became popular.

I went to the Opera download site and saw no option to download it for my platform. I see no Zaurus option there, so it's hidden away somewhere else.

http://www.opera.com/download/index.dml?custom=yes

Seriously, why would you choose Opera over Firefox?

Just one try of Opera's amazing zoom feature on my 22" monitor was all it took for me. Firefox/IE/Safari/Konqueror's "Text Zoom" doesn't even close.

You have 10 hours and a bit more to discuss this story until Opera Press checks Slashdot while drinking their coffee. ;)

Google "buys" something every week...

http://www.opera.com/pressreleases/

Did you see _real_ Opera mobile running on a smart phone like, lets say.. Nokia 9xxx series?

Opera is a XHTML/Flash and multimedia capable browser can run in very funny memory place.

Their recent "Opera Mini" is kind of amazing too. We are speaking about a 98KB browser running on J2ME phone. Note I have Sony Ericsson k700i and it has "Hi Fi" version, I think the 'Lo Fi' version is even less!

Opera is soon (if not already,not following scene lately) on TV Set top boxes, especially HDTV boxes too.

Also, IBM collabration promises a Voice XML browser that can run in a car dashboard.

Note, that is a 20-30 coder or little more company doing all that stuff. Of course, they have coders like guy who invented CSS etc ;)

http://www.opera.com/products/

ps: I was proven wrong on Mactel decision can't happen but I think Opera is not anyone's tiny shareware company that can be bought that easy. Look at their partners.

In fact, it looks like Opera is the real "year 2005" company as everything goes wireless and they have a working product which is tested/happily bought by millions.

Opera's most unique product currently is thier small device browsers, currently the best browser available for palm and symbian.

Where's their PalmOS browser? Their download page doesn't show any. Opera has had a small-screen viewing mode for quite some time, but I'm not aware they have a version for Palm.

It's a much more polished browser, IMHO. Firefox is great, but Opera still beats it in performance, resource usage and (most important) its terrific user interfase, IMHO. Once you get used to it, you just can't go back.

    Give it a whirl - it's completely, 100% free for desktop users now, as you can get your own key for free on Operas' site. Don't diss it because it's not OSS. I still think that if Opera were open source, 99% of the /. users that bash it now would be drooling all over it.

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