Maybe holding your views in peace could be a solution? Jumping on the defensive on a site that is generally pro-science gives the appearance of being righteous yet unsure to some degree. Maybe living your truth is all that is required. Foaming and frothing at the mouth from either side of the issue is ridiculous.
Thank you for your integrity, people like you renew my faith in the underlying decency of humanity. I look at it like this, I don't help crack dealers sell crack; and I don't support Microsoft or any company that has only support for the Windows platform. It starts here, one person at a time.
Eric
in the world according to Bill. This also is influenced by the amount of money you have to change the legal definitions of words such as 'guilty' or 'convicted' and last but not least 'monopolist.' If your definition has been given the correct amount of spin and spewed forth from Redmond with enough marketing force Bill will be able to convince folks that all of those messages in their e-mail box really are 'just for you.' Just like my roommates' continuous offers for 'penis enlargement' for the penis she doesn't have. I hope to read some responses from the Microsoft cheerleading squad on this one, telling me what commerical (proprietary) solutions are available to handle this nebulous concept called 'spam'.
Why don't you actually 'do something' about Linux not being ready for you? Re-partitiion your drive and start using something user friendly like Mepis, Linspire, or Xandros. " I want to run linux so badly but the apps just arent completely there yet for me, and the usability of linux is still too difficult."
Sounds like a perfect example of 'lack of initiative and commitment.' Quityerbitchin' and DO SOMETHING about it. I got into computers in 1999 (High-school dropout with GED) and found the 'Windows experience' to be unacceptable. I'm a carpenter, you're a developer? What excuse can you offer for your sloth?
These folks are going for the positions that make the decision to outsource the coding to other countries. WTF is America gonna produce to the world when we lose our tech, manufacturing, etc. edge? Oh yeh, we'll still have the market cornered on neurosis, obesity, criminality, pollution, bling, and WMD and last but not least hypochristianity!
In a few years? That's good, really good. My Linux desktop has been and continues to be superior to any Microsoft product I've EVER tried. It just works, PERIOD. If learning how and paying exhorbitant fees to secure your system, CONSTANTLY, is what you want your computer experience to be, then that is your affair. I liken it to buying a brand new car without locks. If you don't immediately take it to get locks installed your investment could be compromised. Ah the fallacy of my own analogy, Microsoft software WILL be compromised if immediate steps are not taken to secure it. LOL..'could be' LOL
I agree with you on the 'innoncent view of the world' statement. I will feel sorry for folks like this, walking around in a daze when this consumer economy crashes and their precious little atm/Mastercard doesn't work and they feel what hunger is like. Wealth is the application of knowledge and wisdom--on the fly.
I recently, 2001, started taking classes for an associate degree(originally Psychology) and was horrified when in the text for a Sociology class a concept of a human communication model was based on a frickin' TV show. I admit I had been out of the loop of education for quite some time but stuff like this does a lot to explain the current climate of this country and the Corporations who are running it.
TV attention spans! I'd say it's child abuse but since most everyone does it it's OK? In the words of a dear friend, "Humanity--You never cease to fail me!"
I must be hard-headed because I kept on trying when I tried my first distro-I had to search the internet to find out what is a BIOS? Then I had to figure out how to make my computer boot from a CD-rom(wasn't at all sure about what was actually happening with this whole booting sequence-I learned) My first experience with a personal computer was a laptop with Win98se(bought in December of 1999) I remember it being very frustrating and confusing. I learned enough to search the web and eventually burn a cd which was Lindows-now Linspire. The whole configuring my computer was difficult and taught me patience with my computer experience( I had to post a question, have someone translate from non-tech to tech-to figure out what I was trying to accomplish-and give me an appropriate response.) They did eventually create a forum for people who were complete newbies to computers-i.e. had maybe used Windows but had no clue as to what the machine was doing-that it had a video card, Bios, soundcard, etc. I've never experienced the same frustrations on Linux distros that I have on any version of Windows-I don't know why and don't care really. I am just glad to have a persistent nature, now I build computers-very custom; and enjoy my computer experience very much. I also converted my 58 year old mother to Linux and she is amazed that a computer can just work, without all of the usual Windows hassle. The machines are on my Opera page-I am posting using Computer Anomaly #4.
I've always had difficulty with Windows, from inexperience on my part, but when I ditched Windows for Linux in 2000-01 I've actually come to enjoy computers at a level I NEVER experienced with Windows. BTW, my first computer I purchased in 1999(Comp USA Amerinote pc 366Mhz-98se) I have no IT training and do not work in IT. I believe that any person with no experience with computers could go either way and still have the same learning curve-assuming that one wanted to learn what the computer is actually doing. The reason why people put up with Windows is the fact that they can get an almost immediate answer to common usability problems because it is so widely used, the other reason is the Microsoft mono-culture bleed over into mainstream society(crappy service delivered by smug *ssholes-"it's just the way it is" mentality.) I am no better than anyone else I just grew up when companies valued customers because they realized our importance to their bottom line. This issue is now danced around, very impersonally, but is still constantly revisited because a loss of market share is a problem when it comes to stock market. Mostly, I am grateful that I didn't have whore my morals to support convicted criminal monopolists such as Microsoft, sorry that is how I feel.
I haven't run a Windows box in a few years-I only run Linux Fedora Core 4 and Simply MEPIS-I haven't been mad at my computer since I ditched that broken crippleware. Can't relate, won't relate, no need to debate!
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the computers on the above link, still using them. Eric
Anonymous OS, Simply Mepis 6.0, Freespire, Linspire, Damn Small Linux, ""on a usb for doze, Vector live, PCLinux OS
too damn long.
Maybe holding your views in peace could be a solution? Jumping on the defensive on a site that is generally pro-science gives the appearance of being righteous yet unsure to some degree. Maybe living your truth is all that is required. Foaming and frothing at the mouth from either side of the issue is ridiculous.
Thank you for your integrity, people like you renew my faith in the underlying decency of humanity. I look at it like this, I don't help crack dealers sell crack; and I don't support Microsoft or any company that has only support for the Windows platform. It starts here, one person at a time. Eric
propagate, propagate, propagate!
Getting very local really means....buying the appropriate local officials to help block competition.
in the world according to Bill. This also is influenced by the amount of money you have to change the legal definitions of words such as 'guilty' or 'convicted' and last but not least 'monopolist.' If your definition has been given the correct amount of spin and spewed forth from Redmond with enough marketing force Bill will be able to convince folks that all of those messages in their e-mail box really are 'just for you.' Just like my roommates' continuous offers for 'penis enlargement' for the penis she doesn't have. I hope to read some responses from the Microsoft cheerleading squad on this one, telling me what commerical (proprietary) solutions are available to handle this nebulous concept called 'spam'.
"So what are service packs for? People with no Internet connection?" Yes, for those who have a SECURE Windows environment!
Why don't you actually 'do something' about Linux not being ready for you? Re-partitiion your drive and start using something user friendly like Mepis, Linspire, or Xandros. " I want to run linux so badly but the apps just arent completely there yet for me, and the usability of linux is still too difficult." Sounds like a perfect example of 'lack of initiative and commitment.' Quityerbitchin' and DO SOMETHING about it. I got into computers in 1999 (High-school dropout with GED) and found the 'Windows experience' to be unacceptable. I'm a carpenter, you're a developer? What excuse can you offer for your sloth?
These folks are going for the positions that make the decision to outsource the coding to other countries. WTF is America gonna produce to the world when we lose our tech, manufacturing, etc. edge? Oh yeh, we'll still have the market cornered on neurosis, obesity, criminality, pollution, bling, and WMD and last but not least hypochristianity!
I was thinking more along the lines of a warped Groundhog Day but this is fitting as well.
Useful for fixing pesky storage devices? Are strong magentic fields generated by this kind of elevator?
In a few years? That's good, really good. My Linux desktop has been and continues to be superior to any Microsoft product I've EVER tried. It just works, PERIOD. If learning how and paying exhorbitant fees to secure your system, CONSTANTLY, is what you want your computer experience to be, then that is your affair. I liken it to buying a brand new car without locks. If you don't immediately take it to get locks installed your investment could be compromised. Ah the fallacy of my own analogy, Microsoft software WILL be compromised if immediate steps are not taken to secure it. LOL..'could be' LOL
Your point comes from an altruistic point of view that is refreshing in contrast to the consumer dribble that has dominated this topic. Thanks
Sheeple, of course.
I agree with you on the 'innoncent view of the world' statement. I will feel sorry for folks like this, walking around in a daze when this consumer economy crashes and their precious little atm/Mastercard doesn't work and they feel what hunger is like. Wealth is the application of knowledge and wisdom--on the fly.
Supporting the bible? He wrote it, you insensitive clod!
I recently, 2001, started taking classes for an associate degree(originally Psychology) and was horrified when in the text for a Sociology class a concept of a human communication model was based on a frickin' TV show. I admit I had been out of the loop of education for quite some time but stuff like this does a lot to explain the current climate of this country and the Corporations who are running it.
TV attention spans! I'd say it's child abuse but since most everyone does it it's OK? In the words of a dear friend, "Humanity--You never cease to fail me!"
I must be hard-headed because I kept on trying when I tried my first distro-I had to search the internet to find out what is a BIOS? Then I had to figure out how to make my computer boot from a CD-rom(wasn't at all sure about what was actually happening with this whole booting sequence-I learned) My first experience with a personal computer was a laptop with Win98se(bought in December of 1999) I remember it being very frustrating and confusing. I learned enough to search the web and eventually burn a cd which was Lindows-now Linspire. The whole configuring my computer was difficult and taught me patience with my computer experience( I had to post a question, have someone translate from non-tech to tech-to figure out what I was trying to accomplish-and give me an appropriate response.) They did eventually create a forum for people who were complete newbies to computers-i.e. had maybe used Windows but had no clue as to what the machine was doing-that it had a video card, Bios, soundcard, etc. I've never experienced the same frustrations on Linux distros that I have on any version of Windows-I don't know why and don't care really. I am just glad to have a persistent nature, now I build computers-very custom; and enjoy my computer experience very much. I also converted my 58 year old mother to Linux and she is amazed that a computer can just work, without all of the usual Windows hassle. The machines are on my Opera page-I am posting using Computer Anomaly #4.
I've always had difficulty with Windows, from inexperience on my part, but when I ditched Windows for Linux in 2000-01 I've actually come to enjoy computers at a level I NEVER experienced with Windows. BTW, my first computer I purchased in 1999(Comp USA Amerinote pc 366Mhz-98se) I have no IT training and do not work in IT. I believe that any person with no experience with computers could go either way and still have the same learning curve-assuming that one wanted to learn what the computer is actually doing. The reason why people put up with Windows is the fact that they can get an almost immediate answer to common usability problems because it is so widely used, the other reason is the Microsoft mono-culture bleed over into mainstream society(crappy service delivered by smug *ssholes-"it's just the way it is" mentality.) I am no better than anyone else I just grew up when companies valued customers because they realized our importance to their bottom line. This issue is now danced around, very impersonally, but is still constantly revisited because a loss of market share is a problem when it comes to stock market. Mostly, I am grateful that I didn't have whore my morals to support convicted criminal monopolists such as Microsoft, sorry that is how I feel.
It's all those PRICELESS Windows utilities silly!
I haven't run a Windows box in a few years-I only run Linux Fedora Core 4 and Simply MEPIS-I haven't been mad at my computer since I ditched that broken crippleware. Can't relate, won't relate, no need to debate!
Attention span of the TV generation, about as long as a commercial-typical.