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Firefox Gets File Sharing Extension
Jonnty writes "Firefox finally has a good P2P extension.. "[It] incorporates peer-to-peer capabilities into the browser via a sidebar. AllPeers "combines the strength of Firefox and the efficiency of BitTorrent" to add media sharing to the long list of available extensions." "
Firefox once again gets better!
Now you can view porn and download hentei at the same time!
This is interesting but I don't think that BitTorrent-style is the right way to go about it. The browser will definitely be the new "feel the pulse of society" provision, but what is going to be the best way to get that feel?
There are other protocols that, in my opinion, are better that BT. I've seen a few that use other (third party) users to mask both the sender and receiver from one-another. I believe this is going to be important especially when it comes to government regulation and censorship. I'm anti-copyright, so I couldn't care less about who owns what.
I believe the next step beyond the protocol will be the need to find a way to properly packet-ize information better. I guess ZIP or RAR is fine, but it isn't enough. A sender of any media (website, file, e-mail, etc) would need to implement the data into a packet and set that packet as public or private. Public packets could be dropped into the "Sharing" folder, which replaces the temporary internet files folder completely. Users would instantly share the webpage packets, the image packets and even the music or programs they download.
Popular files would be much easier to get, and the shortcomings of BitTorrent in terms of censorship would be greatly reduced. I could even see a future where we could do away with DNS in the long term as we could access webpages or other information through this network of shared temporary file folders. No need to host your own information on a server, just drop it into your share/temp folder and let others find it via whatever search engine or "torrent host" they use.
Now Firefox can be sued by the RIAA! Seriously, won't this draw unneeded criticism of Firefox while it is still establishing its place in the browser market?
Could this be expanded to create a mini-bittorrent type network where if the browser can't contact the server, it checks its peers to see if a cached copy exists, and download it from them?
no comment
so is this bittorrent for firefox, or something else?
i.e. is it some proprietary thing, or is it an interface to bittorrent?
(are they using standards or trying to make some comericial proprietary thing).
anyone know what allpeers is all about?
music - http://www.subatomicglue.com
They call it free software but I suspect they mean "free beer". It sounds like nothing more than another bittorrent client.
before you made this comment, what shape had the glass?
Seems to me that this just looks like BT in a new shell. I do agree with one of the previous posters that BT may not be the best thing to really become the "pulse" of the web generation, but enabled sharing between users in general is becoming more the norm -- not just music/movies/other DRM affected crap -- files in general.
TFA doesn't really give you a whole lot to go on -- or the links to OFA's from TFA. (Follow that?)
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Since the allpeers site is just a bunch of pictures and promises, with no actual extension available, shouldn't the title be "Firefox MIGHT get file sharing extension"?
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The extension is not listed at Mozilla Update yet. The home website has already been slashdotted. How do we know this is not just advertising?
Color me cynical, and unimpressed.
Since the allpeers site is getting bombed, here is the coral cache link: http://www.allpeers.com.nyud.net:8090/index_f.htm
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If you share an mp3 file (you purchased) with your peer network, can you be sued?
If you share a file, will your sharing habits be scrutinized by your IP and other outside organizations?
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That has to be one of the smartest ideas I've ever seen on slashdot. Obviously dynamic content won't work, and the developer would have to be _very_ careful not to make available personal information. But both these problems have been solved by caching proxies years ago.
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Why would I run code written by morons that can't even get a webpage right? Here is a version of their index that works without javascript, not exactly rocket science is it?
n al.dtd">
<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitio
<html>
<head><title>AllPeers browser detection</title></head>
<body>
<script>
if(navigator.userAgent.indexOf("Firefox") != -1)
{
window.location = "index_f.htm";
}
else
{
window.location = "index_nf.htm";
}
</script>
<noscript>
Firefox users, please <a href="/index_f.htm">click here.</a>
Users of other web browsers, please <a href="/index_nf.htm">click here.</a>
</noscript>
</body>
</html>
Now I can get sued by the RIAA AND use Firefox! Take that, Microsoft!
Actually, this might not be such a bad idea and it sort of makes sense. For webpages that heavily depend upon video or audio, this would work perfectly if implemented well. It makes sense that if you downloaded the file and played it in a built-in player in Firefox or other. I can also see it saving a lot of bandwidth for sites. It also saves the need of having to get another client, like Azureus, and downloading the .torrent file and all that extra stuff to download something, while having it just download in Firefox. This may be a new interesting to way spread content, so I think it should be watched closely.
Cue braindead lawsuit by the tech-unsavvy against Mozilla in 5..4..3..2..
So, Slashdot is reposting a short articled posted by an small tech news outlet about a non-existant plug-in for Firefox. Brilliant.
This is why I come to Slashdot every day, folks. These are the big stories no one else has. All presented in a way that's both fair & balanced, giving clear, concise, accurate headlines. No prejudiced opinion pieces. Just pure, unadulterated tech news bliss, straight from the Cowboy's mouth!
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Looking at the url for that message we can see what will probably bee shared the most: www.webpronews.com
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...to keep FireFox running continuously now.
"It's the height of ridiculousness to say for those 9 lines you get hundreds of millions."
Would this plug-in make Firefox et. al a valid legal target for the [admittedly low and underhanded tactics but technically legal] MPAA and RIAA neo-police?
...Open Source isn't the only answer -- but it's almost always a better value than the alternatives...
...'til they get sued by the music and film industries?
If a baby duck is a "duckling," why would anyone want to eat "dumplings?"
Next thing you'll see is the RIAA fools having no clue going against "John Doe" moms and children for using Firefox.
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adblock "http://a.as-us.falkag.net*" in firefox and even the text ads go bye bye!
could use some decentralized P2P technology.
I think we can keep recursing like this until someone returns 1
Mixing the web with BT could have nice implications, could be interesting to have i.e. the bt:// protocol, embed into pages images or files that goes to the bt network (a la img src=bt://whatever.jpg, with good implications for people that want to publish things but dont have huge bandwidth. But for now, the mix is not going too far from just a protocol specific download manager.
Here's the Coral Cache of the AllPeers web site since the original seems to be a smoking hole in the ground.
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Firefox and Bittorrent teaming up? That might produce a black hole of memory suck that would tear a hole in the fabric of the universe and destroy the space-time continuum!
So, now will all those mysterious icoo:// movie links work in Firefox?
Do daemons dream of electric sleep()?
What you propose with users "instantly sharing webpage packets, image packets, and even the music/programs they download" by means of a public portion of a "Temporary Internet Files" type folder is interesting, in theory. But realistically, I don't see it happening any time soon.
Among other things, it makes the assumption that users have plenty of upstream bandwidth, so their Internet performance won't be drastically impacted by this process running in the background.
In reality, the ISPs have *no* interest in giving the "average user" very much upstream bandwidth at all, because that's still their cash cow. The people publishing content are the ones in the best position to pay a premium price to make the publication possible. That's why T1 and T3 circuits still cost hundreds or even thousands per month, while you can get DSL or cable broadband for between $19 and $50 a month. Ability to download (or in other words, view or receive content) is cheap. Ability to provide/distribute the content will cost you much more.
On another note, I'm becoming convinced that as things stand right now, your best bet for "safe sharing" of copyrighted content lies in the realm of private servers and sites which require passwords to use them. P2P will never really be the "optimal" method for distributing content covertly or without fear of legal punishment. Ultimately, any software that can mask the sender and/or receiver's IP addresses still has to have a way to know how the data *really* gets from point A to B and back. That means, someone can always "unmask" it again with some sort of clever reverse-engineering.
The nice thing about a strictly private server, message forum, etc. is that by its very nature, it's not sharing content to the public. If enough different "private sites" were put up that each happened to contain a lot of the same content anyway, law enforcement would have a very difficult time dealing with them. (EG. They can't just connect up, grab a file from your IP, and thereby prove you're "guilty of distributing copyrighted content on a massive scale". For all they know, you could have only a select group of friends using your private site who all own legal licenses for the music they're putting up there, etc.)
So, how long before Firefox gets blacklisted and banned?
There is no way I can keep firefox running long enough to share back a decent ratio (atleast with the 1.0x versions I have been running sofar). Sure Azureus also leaks memory but atleast I can keep it running a couple of weeks before the systems starts thrashing.
Forbidden /index_f.htm on this server.
You don't have permission to access
Apache/1.3.33 Server at www.allpeers.com Port 80
I usually use anime to denote certain qualities.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anime
covers the topic nicely
Uh... could someone download and share the article via another P2P system? I'm having trouble downloading the new extention due to the Slashdot effect. Thanks.
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I had some for breakfast...
But the thing is that there was something that prompted the label Yahweh, and then other attributes got attached to that label.
DEAD LINK. Anyway, the only point of doing this is if you are too lazy to open up your fucking aMule client. And really, if you are too lazy to do that, then you are too lazy to install a fucking extention. So what's the fucking point?? Oh, and it is SOOO worth risking the stability of my browser for a gismo of a vastly substandard filesharing net.
Offtopic and a chisler to boot.
Of course, it is our divine right to free content from everywhere. Slashdot should be happy just to get our valuable attention.
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This could be really useful if the protocol was NOT BT.
It would make great sense to have a p2p protocol that sucked down the first part of the file first, allowing the user to stream straight into the browser.
BT has two attributes that make it a very poor choice for browser integration--the order of downloaded packets is random and BT should stay up long after the file has finished downloading--it's lifetime should not be bound by the lifetime of the browser.
But good concept, but just not quite worth it.
Hoping not to start a flame war, but what is the security implications of installing various FF extensions? Isn't this a bit like IE's ActiveX security problems waiting to happen? Or are extensions sandboxed or protected in some way (beyond just not running as root/admin, still a lot malicious software you install can do). I know it's not "drive-by" install, but IMHO most IE/ActiveX problems aren't either, users willingly install a lot of the stuff. Like we do with FF extensions..? :)
For something that is already in development, check out http://moztorrent.mozdev.org/screenshots.html
I don't see any mention of this being open-source, and some features will not be free:
"How can it be free? There must be a catch.
Nope. Because we're using P2P technology, we don't need to maintain a large server farm for managing huge files collections as our network grows. On top of that, we don't think people should have to pay to share with friends. Of course, we are still a company and we need to make money to pay for the luxurious lifestyle of our development team. That's why we will be deploying new services on AllPeers, some of which will require payment."
If they had the idea for this in 2003 or earlier, it's a bit odd it isn't wasn't shipping some time ago.
Domain Name: ALLPEERS.COM, Record created on 15-Mar-2003
Administrative Contact : RWCM LTD SAINT TROPEZ, 83990 FR (I edited out other details)
the integration is as logical as putting file system defragmenting in a sidebar.
.torrent again? Oh, that's right! In one's browser! Thus, a logical integration of browsing and initiating .torrent downloads.
Where does one find a
Tried doing a "Whois" of the website. Got nothin, though it is registered. Googled the CEO, Cedric Maloux. Found some interesting things about him and his past web activities, but nothing that gives insight to this new "allpeer" extension for Firefox. I'm just not sure how he plans to make money off of this because extensions are "usually" free. *cough*advertising*cough*
Forbidden You don't have permission to access / on this server. Apache/1.3.33 Server at www.allpeers.com Port 80
There are other protocols out there besides bittorrent that are decentralized. Of course Bittorrent isnt even completely 100% decentralized. And even if it is decentralized, does it make it secure? People cans stil read your packets and they can still poison the network. Unless you have safeguards in against that. You just need to know where to look for these decentralized networks. The problem is if you want "decentralized" and you want "secure" your program is going to be inefficient. Of course nothing is ever completely secure there is always some level of trust involved.
Bittorrent is nice but it has its problems. We need a group of people to sit down and think of a serious, adaptable decentralized p2p protocol that works efficiently. (sounds like an impossible dream, I know)
Also, on the issue of DNS....doing away with DNS would be nice but I doubt it will ever happen in a way that works for everyone. In the end someone will control it all. I just wish it was still a left over hippie college professor at the top of the food chain who didnt care about money, politics, or power.
Ok I was a bit too hasty, this seems to be another application of theirs.
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Unless this is bundled with Firefox, and I've seen no indication that it will be, this changes nothing. Users will still have to download and install this plugin before they can download bittorrent content, just like they need to download and install a bittorrent client before they can download bittorrent content today.
There already exists one,
it's called "Kademelia".
If you are anti-copyright then you already have everything you need to live in a non-copyright lifestyle. Become a publisher yourself. Create content that is so great that it will be consumed and loved by millions of people. Waive the copyright on that material.
Why can't you just live your dream and leave those of us who do respect copyright alone?
Here's an idea for the Coral team: what about converting to Coral all links in a coralized web page?
I think it would improve greatly the effiency of the cache system.
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While I think this is cool - won't we get problems from organizations like RIAA/MPAA...what happens if they target FireFox? They are targeting the big guys, and FireFox is big.
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What a stupid name. Can't they call it AllPerens instead ? :\
I see lots of really unsavory criticism from allot of ppl on this particular issue (yeah i know not out of the ordinary for this place) but is seems to me that:
a) the site has been slashdotted and we really cant read anything about the app other then the artical (please don't try to prove me wrong by showing cached/mirrored versions of the site because i simply don't care); and
b) no one has used it yet and given a decent review on the extension (if you have it maybe you can shed some light on it)
So i copyright and trademark a new term, its called UTFP or Use The Fscking Program.
Good day and Adieus.
What if it did have a dedicated server to track it, and it had it set up so that when you download any file over a certain size, it generates a torrent. if many people download the same one file, they would do so in a bit torrent styled manner.
We have it now. They are called servers -- FTP servers, web servers, etc. I can put an image up with one command and anybody in the world with internet access can see it with a simple text string called a URL. The same goes for a Kubuntu DVD image or pictures of my ex-girlfriend naked.
That's an already solved issue. What this guy wants is lack of accountability. Which, while nice in a "I don't want to pay for music" way, is really scary in "the CIA and that now-stalker ex-girlfriend have it too" way. Not to mention the traditional criminals engaged in fixing prices of garbage collection, covering up hazmat dumping and running drugs and desperate families across borders.
I'm not saying it wouldn't be good, just that it's not some sort of warm and fuzzy "it's just better" thing -- there are some drawbacks with lack of accountability and some of them are named Enron II, domestic spying, and annoying 15 year old jackasses, not just the traditional and fringe bogeymen of child molestors and terrorists.
The pros and cons of accountability are pretty heavy on both sides.
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This isn't Firefox doing this? The Mozilla organization hasn't done this at all. It's the users.
I'm perfectly content with a fully featured dedicated BT client. I'm perfectly happy with a stand alone Email client. I'm more than thrilled with a separate IM client.
Not only do I rarely use all 3 at the same time, but I also have never seen a single application (including Opera) that can do 50 major tasks as well as 50 stand alone applications specifically designed for those tasks. Combining shit ends up giving you just that - shit.
This is what I found a couple of minutes ago: Sorry, the good news is that we have been slashdotted... The bad news is that our server is down... Please come back later ! We apologize for the trouble.
just use: "falkag.net" (minus quotes, of course). It's easier.
I've tried lots of firefox extensions, some I love, some I hate, few work correctly, or as described. Such is life with open source, but I'm not complaining about that!
I honestly want to know, why do people want some of these things in their browser? I like firefox because it's relatively clutter free, and fast. I don't want to add bloat. I want a web browser. Luckily these things don't come standard so I can be happy, and the gadget people can be happy too--but isn't it better to have seperate applications for specific purposes? Are these the people that want their alarm clocks to make toast for them, or their cars to wash their clothes, etc?
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<script>
The attribute given above is required for an element that you've used, but you have omitted it. For instance, in most HTML and XHTML document types the "type" attribute is required on the "script" element and the "alt" attribute is required for the "img" element.
Typical values for type are type="text/css" for <style> and type="text/javascript" for <script>.
err. why is this modded offtopic? These guys are _using_ the bittorrent name. So they should be using the technology, right?
I'm asking...
- are they using the name of the popular P2P software - bittorrent - in their advertising. while peddling something completely different?
- Or are they creating brand new technology here?
Also... will the software be free?
All relevent important questions, imho....
music - http://www.subatomicglue.com
Yes but is this "free" software compatible with BT?
That's the real question.
I think I read they're using encryption, which if I remember correctly, BT doesn't have...
music - http://www.subatomicglue.com
so does the bittorrent authors know or care that Allpeers is using their name in their advertising?
Anyone know if these two struck a deal, or if Allpeers is just using the bittorrent name to get eyes on their new product?
I think I read Allpeers is encrypted, and if i remember corrently BT is not (I could be wrong).
music - http://www.subatomicglue.com
Anyone have a torrent for it?
or at least no Adware/Spyware that we know of.
The RIAA and MPAA and BSA will still subpeona you, but at least you won't be infected, that you know of, anyway. You can have the courts confiscate your PC and they will notice that it lacks any Spyware/Adware that you could have used in your defense saying it must have done the downloading via a remote control trojan and not you.
Remember, Slashdot does not have a -1 disagree moderation, and no, troll, flamebait, and overrated are not substitutes.
What? How does this make Firefox anymore of a target than the upteen other bittorrent clients out there?
Just because its a tool that CAN be used for illegal purposes does not mean it IS being used for that. That's like saying Firefox is liable because there is an FTP client embedded in it and FTP is used for piracy.
I'd like to see a P2P app where your downloads don't go into a shared directory/folder.
I share all sorts of stuff, all of it legal to upload; from freeware, open source, music that the musicians are smart enough to want you to share, Hollywood's worst nightmare "Star Wreck", etc.
All of this is legal to upload.
I've found some very good stuff on P2P while randomly plugging in keywords. Last month (if Sony hadn't hosed my PC via my daughter's wanting to hear a CD) I'd have been searching for "Christmas".
The problem is, I have no way whatever of knowing if what I'm downloading is legal or not. If I download a file called "winterwonderland.mp3, how can I tell it's a Madonna song and not some garage band? How can I even know if "Winter Wonderland" is a recent, copyrighted work or something from 150 years ago whose copyright at long last ran out? Or if it was ever copyrighted in the first place?
I realize that in some countries, downloading is illegal. However, in the US it's uploading that's illegal. If stuff I downloaded didn't go into a shared folder, I would have no worries at all instead of little worry.
Come on, guys, help me out here!
(Capcha not mind reading this afternoon; "syringe?" WTF??)
You fail to see why the parent poster and others like him hold their opinions while stating it yourself. Copyrights are completely out of hand, as you said. THAT is the primary reason some people are completely against copyright.
Why should I as a content provider respect your Fair Use rights if you don't respect my copyrights?
"Content providers" (yes, NOT artists, mind you; the corporofacists) are completely to blame. THEY have been fighting to take my fair-use rights away far longer than your anarcho-whatevers have been calling for copyright to be abolished.
If you want to fight the parent poster, then fight for copyright reform. First, realize that copyright isn't intended to protect the publisher from the population, it's to protect the artist from the publisher (what you call the "content providers").
ANY non-commercial use should be considered fair.
Then fight for the musician to regain HIS copyright rights, which the music labels bought from Congress in teh '50s. George Thorogood owns no copyrights at all, Sony-BMI owns his work. How can this be a good use of copyright law?
Fight for a reverse DMCA. If a work is "effectively protected bt technological measures" it should LOSE its copyright. If it's protected by technology, why does it need to be protected by law? The DMCA does nothing BUT take away your fair use rights.
As to locking it in a drawer, you don't need copyright for that. Why in the hell would I write a book I didn't want anyone to read? That's just brain-dead stupid.
Finally, if you don't want to offend my grandma with "fuck," don't say "f***", you look like a 13 year old moron. I suspect this is on purpose and you're an employee of Sony (who ruined my PC when my daughter, unknown to me, tried to play a BMI disk in MY computer).
Sorry for being slightly off-topic about the rootkit but I'm really pissed off about it. If I placed a trojan rootkit on Sony's computer and they had to rebvuild THEIR computers, I'd go to prison. Why isn't the president of teh Sony Corporation behind bars where he belongs?
Finally, sorry for the A/C post. My Name's McGrew. mcgrew.info/blog for more useless fiery rants.
If you work for Sony, you are now my sworn enemy.
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Oh, and your script might not run because it's not properly escaped with CDATA sections (you're writing XML), you're missing a namespace so it probably won't render properly (you're writing XML), it won't work at all in IE (you're writing XML), you're using stupid "click here" links, and you should be just doing this whole thing server side so you don't need this extra page at all. Not exactly rocket science.
http://utorrent.com/ smaller, faster, works too.
but it only strengthens your point. I wouldn't use firefox for downloading movies either.
Actually, Firefox name is quite misleading - Firebird was better since firefox.exe is like Phoenix - it has to be killed() frequently.
What exactly does "EXCEPT AS REQUIRED BY LAW" mean? I'm not trying to troll here, but it looks like this may cause a problem whereever the exception covers. Anybody know where/when this might be?
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Firefox finally has a good P2P extension.. "
No it doesn't.
I went to the site, lots of hype, no real goods. The network is "coming soon" according to the release, not here now.
I don't want a new network based on the BitTorrent concept, I want BitTorrent. P2P is like IM networks, it's only really useful if who (what) you want is on it. I don't want to wait for the a service to become popular when there allready is a another one established and humming well.
Where's the BitTorrent plugin for Firefox?
I saw this yesterday on Ars Technica. It wasn't slashdotted then! :)
The blog by the CTO was actually quite extensive and open, leading me to believe that this is legit, just not ready yet.
The app uses bittorrent protocol, but simply integrates a "buddy list" style private network, such that you can't share with the public. I'll be interested to see how (or if) it traverses NATs. The copyright cartel doesn't have much to worry about, unless public sharing can be hacked into this through some kind of re-broadcast mechanism. I doubt Allpeers will put it in there, as that's clearly not what it's targeted at.
People cans stil read your packets and they can still poison the network.
Right, yeah, sometimes I forget that they could do this; right after they manage to create SHA1 collisions in any kind of a practical manner. Idiot.
What the fuck do you think the torrent file is? It's a text file full of checksums, jackass.
Come on, it can't be THAT hard!
Now all you need is for your browser to compute hashes of everything downloaded, and offer them too.
Seriously! It never ceases to amuse me when I hear Americans throwing the word around as if it was something to be proud of. If you really want to see what the word otaku means in Japan, just watch the Japanese TV drama Densha Otoko (Train Man). It gives you a pretty accurate picture of what a real anime otaku is, sadly.
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And before you respond, yes, I actually think it does blow away Mozilla's offerings, and there's nothing you can do about that. If you don't like Opera's way of doing things, fine. But don't assume that everyone wants to de-integrate everything and force you to install everything separately.
But hey, who needs FTP support in a browser, right? A browser is a browser, so one should have to download a separate FTP client. And downloading? Get a separate download manager. Integration of these things will surely suck, right?
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I don't like Mozilla's FTP capabilities (and wish they were gone), and since downloading takes place over HTTP, I don't see why it needs to be de-integrated.
m onkeyloving browsers.
I'm not assuming others don't like the integration. I never once made that statement, or inference. But it infuriates me when people assume that everyone in the world wants an application that does everything. We don't. Don't assume. You guys use your Opera, I'll use my Firefox. You guys have your browser that does what you want, and I have my browser that does what I want. I do not WANT Firefox to turn into Opera's competitor. They both browse web, yes, but they're shooting for different audiences. I'm sorry I just won't lay down and let you steal my browser just because you want a choice between two all-in-one browsing-downloading-emailing-ftping-newsreading-
Not that my "standing up to save 'my' browser" is going to make much difference in the end, but I'll do it anyway.