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Notify juries of their rights of NULLIFICATION
The most important right that a jury member has is the right to judge the law, and apparently it is very dangerous in USA to notify juries of their right to do so and judges are on the side of the government on this, so they actually place people to jail who notify juries of this, even though this is an extremely important power that common people have to fight unjust laws - just always find the defendant not-guilty because the law is unjust.
One of the cases of this is discussed in this interview (the interview starts at the minute 41).
Interview is with Bernard von NotHaus, founder of NORFED & the Liberty Dollar, on exhausting his appeals process and his forthcoming prison sentencing.
Of-course do not forget that there are other political prisoners in USA, Irwin Schiff is one of them, this is an interview with Irwin Schiff from 2004, where he talks about his books where he predicts the economic collapse, education collapse, housing crisis, debt crisis, eventual collapse of the dollar, destruction of the manufacturing base in USA. Irwin Schiff also talks about the reasons for the incoming problems and he is giving an interesting look at the history of US over the past 100 years and how economy was changing. Also throughout the interview (really, it has to be viewed fully to see all of the points), Irwin Schiff shows that the income taxes in USA are voluntary and are collected illegally. Of-course he is spending 12 years in prison even though all of the evidence shows that he should not have been convicted, but the judge in the appeal case is refusing to look at the evidence.
So my point with all this is that AFAIC it is a good thing for the jury to be able to get some information that they don't have, because too often it looks like they are selected specifically in a way that would prevent anybody with any knowledge of the problems with the system from being in jury.
Jury nullification needs to be taught in school on day one, and of-course in the government ran schools it's not.
By the way, now with the NDAA signed by Obama, Bernard von NotHaus can in principle be 'disappeared' by the military and held indefinitely in a military prison because he was deemed a 'terrorist' for selling silver 10-20 Liberty dollar coins (of-course there are no silver 10-20 dollar USD that are used, these cannot be confused with actual USD and anybody who owns Liberty dollars is making a profit in terms of USD, which is being destroyed.) So do we need jury that are knowledgeable of what the system is like today or not?
Nullification - this is what all juries must be told. Nullify all laws that government is using to convict people whenever it concerns individual rights, property rights, etc. Government is the evil today, nothing else, nullify all laws.
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Re:Guys, we're talking about SYRIA here
Hm, US not much different folks; banned book == no freedom of speech. ( http://www.paynoincometax.com/federalmafia.htm )
and speaking of which, about the the writers's trial, no due process either, seems that a judge may rule that you are not allowed to mention the law on your defense, under penalty of jail time. :-| -
Re:Two problems with IntuitSigh
....First, federal law requires me to keep tax records for a minimum period of time, and to produce them on demand.
Where is this law? What statute?
(IANAL)
OHHHH
... so you DON'T know the law.FYI, there IS NO law that requires INDIVIDUALS to keep records. If you file a tax return, you are giving up your 5th Amendment rights, and if questioned, then you have to produce the documentation to prove it. Kinda backwards, huh?
Oh
... wait a sec ... the IRS agents that conduct audits have NO AUTHORITY TO DO SO! They have to be given a "Delegation of Authority" by the Director of the Treasury, but never have done so.Hmmm
... maybe this case may shed some light ... specifically:Whatever the form in which the Government functions, anyone entering into an arrangement with the Government takes the risk of having accurately ascertained that he who purports to act for the Government stays within the bounds of his authority. The scope of this authority may be explicitly defined by Congress or be limited by delegated legislation, properly exercised through the rule-making power. And this is so even though, as here, the agent himself may have been unaware of the limitations upon his authority.
Check here for details
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Well ...
Good thing I don't pay income taxes!
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Re:That's it-no more taxes from me
Ahhhh
... I see you've been reading too much Irwin Schiff again ... huh? -
Re:I live in CaliforniaThough this is off-topic to the story
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This is on-topic to your postIrwin Schiff has some interesting things to say about the "Withholding Tax" aka Internal Revenue Code section 3402.
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Re:Civil Disobedience
would people opt out of paying their taxes for the same reason. They'd all start filing the 1040EZ saying they made $15K, while the rest of their income is hidden by anonymous digital cash transactions.
Interesting. But, have you read www.paynoincometax.com yet?
Perhaps the government would have to go to a sales tax
They are ethically obligated to do this anyway. Regardless of the questionable legality of an income tax, it's morally repulsive. I should not have to report my income to Big Brother. They have no business knowing what I'm doing, or how much I'm paid for it, as long as I'm not hurting anyone.
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Re:Logistics anyone?
Since when an american has contradicted IRS
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US income tax
Lots of people have been throwing around phrases like
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being a US citizen [...] you get the honour of filing and paying taxes to the US government
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live in the US but not live by its laws (like paying taxes)
I can see that the brainwashing program has been successful. Your politicians would be proud of you.
The Income Tax was started to raise money for World War I. It is a voluntary program! You don't have to pay if you don't want to.
(I'm not Irwin Schiff, and I'm not connected with the publishing of any of Mr. Schiff's materials. I'm not profiting from this message. Yada yada yada.)
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