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Check this blog for the details, doesn't look good. http://www.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/2010/04/12/the-phoney-war-apple-vs-adobe/

The funniest comments (to me) are where Apple is compared to being the "new Microsoft".

You mean like where Apple-released software has access to APIs and features that no other iPhone/iPad developers have, in a manner eerily reminiscent of Microsoft's undocumented APIs?

Yeah, they're clearly nothing alike.

"tl/dr" - by clone53421 (1310749) on Thursday March 25, @01:26PM (#31613624)

LMAO - oh man... whew! See subject-line... lol, "crying for mama", clone? You keep avoiding all the evidence in articles I put up below that evidence OPERA'S SUPERIOR SPEED IN ALL THINGS WEB vs. FF &/or IE even, AS WELL AS ITS SECURITY TRACKRECORD OVER TIME (currently too, recently, AND IN THE PAST TOO).

(Give us a break little troll, please... I can't keep laughing this hard!)

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"Submit an article, troll." - by clone53421 (1310749) on Thursday March 25, @01:26PM (#31613624)

Uhm, Clone... I'm beginning to suspect you cannot read, because HOW MANY MORE OF THESE ARTICLES OF PROOF OF OPERA'S SUPERIORITY NOW & OVER TIME OF ITS SPEED VS. FF (even IE too) AS WELL AS ITS SECURITY TRACKRECORD vs. FF &/or IE?

AGAIN:

====

CURRENT DATA:

A.) For SECURITY (& Opera leads there for the LONGEST TIME, yes, even in least security vulnerabilities found over time, typically of the "big 3" webbrowsers)):

1.) iPhone, IE, Firefox, Safari get stomped at hacker contest -> (No Opera noted as "hosed" though, lol) http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/03/25/pwn2own_2010_day_one/

AND, WHAT DOES A "HACKER/CRACKER"-SECURITY RESEARCHER TYPE CURRENTLY SAY, ABOUT OPERA (per Opera's showing in #1 above (which is, literally, "hot-off-the-press", from yesterday's news no less))?

OK:

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http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/03/25/pwn2own_2010_day_one/

"The problem Microsoft has is they have a big market share, said Vreugdenhil, the hacker who attacked IE. "I use Opera, but that's basically because it has a tiny market share and as far as I know, nobody is really interested in creating a drive-by download for opera. The web at the moment is pretty scary, actually."

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AND, for SECURITY also (less vulnerabilities present over time than IE or FF, per SECUNIA.COM stats):

----

OPERA 10.x VULNERABILITIES STATS:(01/21/2010)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/26745/?task=statistics

(UNPATCHED = 0% )

There are no unpatched Secunia advisories affecting this product, when all vendor patches are applied..

-----

B.) For SPEED (& Opera leads again there, & CONSISTENTLY + for the LONGEST TIME, yes, even in javascript for the LONGEST time, until FF's new engines took its place TEMPRARILY (until Opera 10.50 @ least, because that's gotten a decent "boost" in that area -> http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/12/22/1911216 (not that it matters though, speeding up javascript is like asking to get infected by malscripted sites &/or adbanners faster imo @ least - that of a "POV" of PC security, mostly)):

2.) SunSpider tests done here recently -> http://www.pcpro.co.uk/gallery/features/356350/on-test-the-hidden-seven-browsers-in-the-windows-ballot/145087 WHERE OPERA REGAINS ITS JAVASCRIPT PROCESSING SPEED LEAD OVER FF YET AGAIN!

OLDER DATA (on performance alone):

3.) And this one too last year also -> http://crave.cnet.co.uk/software/0,39029471,49302491,00.htm [cnet.co.uk]

4.) AND IT HAS BEEN "BLOWING AWAY" FIREFOX IN HTML PARSING/PROCESSING SPEEDS AS WELL, & FOR YEARS NOW, per this test years ago -> http://www.howtocreate.co.uk/browserSpeed.html#win [howtocreate.co.uk

"That is not an article, submitted to Slashdot, on which we can topically discuss the slowness or quickness of Opera and Firefox." - by clone53421 (1310749) on Thursday March 25, @12:51PM (#31612976)

See subject-line above, & face facts: You are just trying to troll me it seems, because all I ask of you, is to show me more current data on speed OR security, vs. what I put up below (which is current, recent, & PAST data as well, backing my points on OPERA's SUPERIORITY IN SPEED AND SECURITY, period... you can't disprove the data I use, & you've shot your mouth off & lost... face it, lol... man!)

"You seem to be incredibly stupid, or dense, or both. I'm sorry for you." - by clone53421 (1310749) on Thursday March 25, @12:51PM (#31612976)

Does it matter HOW I put the data out? I put up a TON OF THAT below... lol, you are putting up such a POOR SHOW in your losing + trolling here, that it's not even funny anymore... lol, though I have to laugh now, again. Thanks for the laughs @ least... you're "too, Too, TOO EASY" to get the better of for me, you really truly are. Thanks.

So, that "all said & aside", well - we have Yet more "icing on the cake" (per valid test evidences from respected websites of BOTH Opera's superior SPEED & SECURITY ONLINE for all things "web"):

====

CURRENT DATA:

A.) For SECURITY (& Opera leads there for the LONGEST TIME, yes, even in least security vulnerabilities found over time, typically of the "big 3" webbrowsers)):

1.) iPhone, IE, Firefox, Safari get stomped at hacker contest -> (No Opera noted as "hosed" though, lol) http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/03/25/pwn2own_2010_day_one/

AND, WHAT DOES A "HACKER/CRACKER"-SECURITY RESEARCHER TYPE CURRENTLY SAY, ABOUT OPERA (per Opera's showing in #1 above (which is, literally, "hot-off-the-press", from yesterday's news no less))?

OK:

----

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/03/25/pwn2own_2010_day_one/

"The problem Microsoft has is they have a big market share, said Vreugdenhil, the hacker who attacked IE. "I use Opera, but that's basically because it has a tiny market share and as far as I know, nobody is really interested in creating a drive-by download for opera. The web at the moment is pretty scary, actually."

----

AND, for SECURITY also (less vulnerabilities present over time than IE or FF, per SECUNIA.COM stats):

----

OPERA 10.x VULNERABILITIES STATS:(01/21/2010)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/26745/?task=statistics

(UNPATCHED = 0% )

There are no unpatched Secunia advisories affecting this product, when all vendor patches are applied..

-----

B.) For SPEED (& Opera leads again there, & CONSISTENTLY + for the LONGEST TIME, yes, even in javascript for the LONGEST time, until FF's new engines took its place TEMPRARILY (until Opera 10.50 @ least, because that's gotten a decent "boost" in that area -> http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/12/22/1911216 (not that it matters though, speeding up javascript is like asking to get infected by malscripted sites &/or adbanners faster imo @ least - that of a "POV" of PC security, mostly)):

2.) SunSpider tests done here recently -> http://www.pcpro.co.uk/gallery/features/356350/on-test-the-hidden-seven-browsers-in-the-windows-ballot/145087 WHERE OPERA REGAINS ITS JAVASCRIPT PROCESSING SPEED LEAD OVER FF YET AGAIN!

OLDER DATA (on performance alone):

3.)

"My "undoing", LOL? You really are grasping at straws." - by clone53421 (1310749) on Thursday March 25, @12:50PM (#31612950)

Yes, you avoid showing me data that is current + shows Firefox is faster than Opera is... OR, more secure!

(LOL, you're going to LOVE THIS NEXT ONE, as it's "hot off the presses" as to Opera security superiority, too, yet again & ABSOLUTELY current too!)

So, that "all said & aside", well - we have Yet more "icing on the cake" (per valid test evidences from respected websites of BOTH Opera's superior SPEED & SECURITY ONLINE for all things "web"):

====

CURRENT DATA:

A.) For SECURITY (& Opera leads there for the LONGEST TIME, yes, even in least security vulnerabilities found over time, typically of the "big 3" webbrowsers)):

1.) iPhone, IE, Firefox, Safari get stomped at hacker contest -> (No Opera noted as "hosed" though, lol) http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/03/25/pwn2own_2010_day_one/

AND, WHAT DOES A "HACKER/CRACKER"-SECURITY RESEARCHER TYPE CURRENTLY SAY, ABOUT OPERA (per Opera's showing in #1 above (which is, literally, "hot-off-the-press", from yesterday's news no less))?

OK:

----

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/03/25/pwn2own_2010_day_one/

"The problem Microsoft has is they have a big market share, said Vreugdenhil, the hacker who attacked IE. "I use Opera, but that's basically because it has a tiny market share and as far as I know, nobody is really interested in creating a drive-by download for opera. The web at the moment is pretty scary, actually."

----

AND, for SECURITY also (less vulnerabilities present over time than IE or FF, per SECUNIA.COM stats):

----

OPERA 10.x VULNERABILITIES STATS:(01/21/2010)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/26745/?task=statistics

(UNPATCHED = 0% )

There are no unpatched Secunia advisories affecting this product, when all vendor patches are applied..

-----

B.) For SPEED (& Opera leads again there, & CONSISTENTLY + for the LONGEST TIME, yes, even in javascript for the LONGEST time, until FF's new engines took its place TEMPRARILY (until Opera 10.50 @ least, because that's gotten a decent "boost" in that area -> http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/12/22/1911216 (not that it matters though, speeding up javascript is like asking to get infected by malscripted sites &/or adbanners faster imo @ least - that of a "POV" of PC security, mostly)):

2.) SunSpider tests done here recently -> http://www.pcpro.co.uk/gallery/features/356350/on-test-the-hidden-seven-browsers-in-the-windows-ballot/145087 WHERE OPERA REGAINS ITS JAVASCRIPT PROCESSING SPEED LEAD OVER FF YET AGAIN!

OLDER DATA (on performance alone):

3.) And this one too last year also -> http://crave.cnet.co.uk/software/0,39029471,49302491,00.htm [cnet.co.uk]

4.) AND IT HAS BEEN "BLOWING AWAY" FIREFOX IN HTML PARSING/PROCESSING SPEEDS AS WELL, & FOR YEARS NOW, per this test years ago -> http://www.howtocreate.co.uk/browserSpeed.html#win [howtocreate.co.uk]

5.) Same here -> http://nontroppo.org/timer/kestrel_tests/ [nontroppo.org]

6.) Yet again/once more? Same story ->

"All I have asked for is an article, submitted to Slashdot, on which we can topically discuss the slowness or quickness of Opera and Firefox. Currently, you are posting off-topic in an article about security." - by clone53421 (1310749) on Thursday March 25, @12:35PM (#31612642)

So, that "all said & aside", well - we have Yet more "icing on the cake" (per valid test evidences from respected websites of BOTH Opera's superior SPEED & SECURITY ONLINE for all things "web") as of yesteday no less, read on, because my data on BOTH SPEED & SECURITY? Are current, valid, & from respectable enough sources! Read on, because yet more security & speed data is present below, by the truckload (an avalanche that backs my words, that YOU CANNOT HANDLE):

====

CURRENT DATA:

A.) For SECURITY (& Opera leads there for the LONGEST TIME, yes, even in least security vulnerabilities found over time, typically of the "big 3" webbrowsers)):

1.) iPhone, IE, Firefox, Safari get stomped at hacker contest -> (No Opera noted as "hosed" though, lol) http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/03/25/pwn2own_2010_day_one/

B.) For SPEED (& Opera leads again there, & CONSISTENTLY + for the LONGEST TIME, yes, even in javascript for the LONGEST time, until FF's new engines took its place TEMPRARILY (until Opera 10.50 @ least, because that's gotten a decent "boost" in that area -> http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/12/22/1911216 (not that it matters though, speeding up javascript is like asking to get infected by malscripted sites &/or adbanners faster imo @ least - that of a "POV" of PC security, mostly)):

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"LOL OWNED, go troll someone else." - by clone53421 (1310749) on Thursday March 25, @12:35PM (#31612642)

LOL, wtf? Are you BLIND, ILLITERATE, SKIMMING (or just trolling)?

This is CURRENT VALID SPEED DATA:

See next below, tons of it (present & past, + CONSISTENT):

2.) SunSpider tests done here recently -> http://www.pcpro.co.uk/gallery/features/356350/on-test-the-hidden-seven-browsers-in-the-windows-ballot/145087 WHERE OPERA REGAINS ITS JAVASCRIPT PROCESSING SPEED LEAD OVER FF YET AGAIN!

AND, for SECURITY also (less vulnerabilities present over time than IE or FF, per SECUNIA.COM stats):

----

OPERA 10.x VULNERABILITIES STATS:(01/21/2010)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/26745/?task=statistics

(UNPATCHED = 0% )

There are no unpatched Secunia advisories affecting this product, when all vendor patches are applied..

-----

OLDER DATA (on performance alone):

3.) And this one too last year also -> http://crave.cnet.co.uk/software/0,39029471,49302491,00.htm [cnet.co.uk]

4.) AND IT HAS BEEN "BLOWING AWAY" FIREFOX IN HTML PARSING/PROCESSING SPEEDS AS WELL, & FOR YEARS NOW, per this test years ago -> http://www.howtocreate.co.uk/browserSpeed.html#win [howtocreate.co.uk]

5.) Same here -> http://nontroppo.org/timer/kestrel_tests/ [nontroppo.org]

6.) Yet again/once more? Same story -> http://tech.slashdot.org/story/09/08/08/1750241/Opera-Dominates-CNET-Survey-of-Underdog-Web-Browsers [slashdot.org]

====

AND, WHAT DOES A "HACKER/CRACKER"-SECURITY RESEARCHER TYPE CURRENT

Per my subject-line above, well "mod me down" all you like but... facts? ARE FACTS!

So, that "all said & aside", well - we have Yet more "icing on the cake" (per valid test evidences from respected websites of BOTH Opera's superior SPEED & SECURITY ONLINE for all things "web"):

====

CURRENT DATA, AS OF TODAY, as to why Opera's superior in security too (from the mouth of a hacker/cracker-security tester no less):

A.) For SECURITY (& Opera leads there for the LONGEST TIME, yes, even in least security vulnerabilities found over time, typically of the "big 3" webbrowsers)):

1.) iPhone, IE, Firefox, Safari get stomped at hacker contest -> (No Opera noted as "hosed" though, lol) http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/03/25/pwn2own_2010_day_one/

AND, WHAT DOES A "HACKER/CRACKER"-SECURITY RESEARCHER TYPE CURRENTLY SAY, ABOUT OPERA (per Opera's showing in #1 above (which is, literally, "hot-off-the-press", from yesterday's news no less))?

OK:

----

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/03/25/pwn2own_2010_day_one/

"The problem Microsoft has is they have a big market share, said Vreugdenhil, the hacker who attacked IE. "I use Opera, but that's basically because it has a tiny market share and as far as I know, nobody is really interested in creating a drive-by download for opera. The web at the moment is pretty scary, actually."

----

Hence, again showing that even the "hacker/cracker" types use Opera, because it's safer to do so, & from the mindset of those DOING THE HACKING/CRACKING no less!

====

B.) For SPEED (& Opera leads again there, & CONSISTENTLY + for the LONGEST TIME, yes, even in javascript for the LONGEST time, until FF's new engines took its place TEMPRARILY (until Opera 10.50 @ least, because that's gotten a decent "boost" in that area -> http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/12/22/1911216 (not that it matters though, speeding up javascript is like asking to get infected by malscripted sites &/or adbanners faster imo @ least - that of a "POV" of PC security, mostly)):

2.) SunSpider tests done here recently -> http://www.pcpro.co.uk/gallery/features/356350/on-test-the-hidden-seven-browsers-in-the-windows-ballot/145087 WHERE OPERA REGAINS ITS JAVASCRIPT PROCESSING SPEED LEAD OVER FF YET AGAIN!

AND, for SECURITY also (less vulnerabilities present over time than IE or FF, per SECUNIA.COM stats):

----

OPERA 10.x VULNERABILITIES STATS:(01/21/2010)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/26745/?task=statistics

(UNPATCHED = 0% )

There are no unpatched Secunia advisories affecting this product, when all vendor patches are applied..

-----

OLDER DATA (on performance alone):

3.) And this one too last year also -> http://crave.cnet.co.uk/software/0,39029471,49302491,00.htm [cnet.co.uk]

4.) AND IT HAS BEEN "BLOWING AWAY" FIREFOX IN HTML PARSING/PROCESSING SPEEDS AS WELL, & FOR YEARS NOW, per this test years ago -> http://www.howtocreate.co.uk/browserSpeed.html#win [howtocreate.co.uk]

5.) Same here -> http://nontroppo.org/timer/kestrel_tests/ [nontroppo.org]

6.) Yet again/once more? Same story -> http://tech.slashdot.org/story/09/0

"Still the avoidance, still the denial." - by clone53421 (1310749) on Thursday March 25, @09:36AM (#31609728)

Clone, please: ALL I HAVE ASKED OF YOU IS TO SHOW US THAT OPERA IS SLOWER THAN FIREFOX & WITH MORE CURRENT DATA THAN I PROVIDE BELOW (you avoid this, to no end, because there is NO SUCH DATA, lol)... give us a break. You have turned into a SERIOUS disappointment that cannot let go, or admit when he cannot disprove something.

Per my subject-line above, well "mod me down" etc./et al, & all you like but... facts? ARE FACTS!

So, that "all said & aside", well - we have Yet more "icing on the cake" (per valid test evidences from respected websites of BOTH Opera's superior SPEED & SECURITY ONLINE for all things "web"):

====

CURRENT DATA:

A.) For SECURITY (& Opera leads there for the LONGEST TIME, yes, even in least security vulnerabilities found over time, typically of the "big 3" webbrowsers)):

1.) iPhone, IE, Firefox, Safari get stomped at hacker contest -> (No Opera noted as "hosed" though, lol) http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/03/25/pwn2own_2010_day_one/

B.) For SPEED (& Opera leads again there, & CONSISTENTLY + for the LONGEST TIME, yes, even in javascript for the LONGEST time, until FF's new engines took its place TEMPRARILY (until Opera 10.50 @ least, because that's gotten a decent "boost" in that area -> http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/12/22/1911216 (not that it matters though, speeding up javascript is like asking to get infected by malscripted sites &/or adbanners faster imo @ least - that of a "POV" of PC security, mostly)):

2.) SunSpider tests done here recently -> http://www.pcpro.co.uk/gallery/features/356350/on-test-the-hidden-seven-browsers-in-the-windows-ballot/145087 WHERE OPERA REGAINS ITS JAVASCRIPT PROCESSING SPEED LEAD OVER FF YET AGAIN!

AND, for SECURITY also (less vulnerabilities present over time than IE or FF, per SECUNIA.COM stats):

----

OPERA 10.x VULNERABILITIES STATS:(01/21/2010)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/26745/?task=statistics

(UNPATCHED = 0% )

There are no unpatched Secunia advisories affecting this product, when all vendor patches are applied..

-----

OLDER DATA (on performance alone):

3.) And this one too last year also -> http://crave.cnet.co.uk/software/0,39029471,49302491,00.htm [cnet.co.uk]

4.) AND IT HAS BEEN "BLOWING AWAY" FIREFOX IN HTML PARSING/PROCESSING SPEEDS AS WELL, & FOR YEARS NOW, per this test years ago -> http://www.howtocreate.co.uk/browserSpeed.html#win [howtocreate.co.uk]

5.) Same here -> http://nontroppo.org/timer/kestrel_tests/ [nontroppo.org]

6.) Yet again/once more? Same story -> http://tech.slashdot.org/story/09/08/08/1750241/Opera-Dominates-CNET-Survey-of-Underdog-Web-Browsers [slashdot.org]

====

AND, WHAT DOES A "HACKER/CRACKER"-SECURITY RESEARCHER TYPE CURRENTLY SAY, ABOUT OPERA (per Opera's showing in #1 above (which is, literally, "hot-off-the-press", from yesterday's news no less))?

OK:

----

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/03/25/pwn2own_2010_day_one/

"The problem Microsoft has is th

Per my subject-line above, see below... facts? ARE FACTS!

So, that "all said & aside", well - we have Yet more "icing on the cake" (per valid test evidences from respected websites of BOTH Opera's superior SPEED & SECURITY ONLINE for all things "web"):

====

CURRENT DATA:

A.) For SECURITY (& Opera leads there for the LONGEST TIME, yes, even in least security vulnerabilities found over time, typically of the "big 3" webbrowsers):

1.) iPhone, IE, Firefox, Safari get stomped at hacker contest -> (No Opera noted as "hosed" though, lol) http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/03/25/pwn2own_2010_day_one/

B.) For SPEED (& Opera leads again there, & CONSISTENTLY + for the LONGEST TIME, yes, even in javascript for the LONGEST time, until FF's new engines took its place TEMPRARILY (until Opera 10.50 @ least, because that's gotten a decent "boost" in that area -> http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/12/22/1911216 (not that it matters though, speeding up javascript is like asking to get infected by malscripted sites &/or adbanners faster imo @ least - that of a "POV" of PC security, mostly)):

2.) SunSpider tests done here recently -> http://www.pcpro.co.uk/gallery/features/356350/on-test-the-hidden-seven-browsers-in-the-windows-ballot/145087 WHERE OPERA REGAINS ITS JAVASCRIPT PROCESSING SPEED LEAD OVER FF YET AGAIN!

AND, for SECURITY also (less vulnerabilities present over time than IE or FF, per SECUNIA.COM stats):

----

OPERA 10.x VULNERABILITIES STATS:(01/21/2010)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/26745/?task=statistics

(UNPATCHED = 0% )

There are no unpatched Secunia advisories affecting this product, when all vendor patches are applied..

-----

OLDER DATA (on performance alone):

3.) And this one too last year also -> http://crave.cnet.co.uk/software/0,39029471,49302491,00.htm [cnet.co.uk]

4.) AND IT HAS BEEN "BLOWING AWAY" FIREFOX IN HTML PARSING/PROCESSING SPEEDS AS WELL, & FOR YEARS NOW, per this test years ago -> http://www.howtocreate.co.uk/browserSpeed.html#win [howtocreate.co.uk]

5.) Same here -> http://nontroppo.org/timer/kestrel_tests/ [nontroppo.org]

6.) Yet again/once more? Same story -> http://tech.slashdot.org/story/09/08/08/1750241/Opera-Dominates-CNET-Survey-of-Underdog-Web-Browsers [slashdot.org]

====

AND, WHAT DOES A "HACKER/CRACKER"-SECURITY RESEARCHER TYPE CURRENTLY SAY, ABOUT OPERA (per Opera's showing in #1 above (which is, literally, "hot-off-the-press", from yesterday's news no less))?

OK:

----

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/03/25/pwn2own_2010_day_one/

"The problem Microsoft has is they have a big market share, said Vreugdenhil, the hacker who attacked IE. "I use Opera, but that's basically because it has a tiny market share and as far as I know, nobody is really interested in creating a drive-by download for opera. The web at the moment is pretty scary, actually."

----

Hence, again showing that even the "hacker/cracker" types use Opera, because it's safer to do so, & from the mindset of those DOING THE HACKING/CRACKING no less!

(Opera "rocked the planet" in those cases... bi

Per my subject-line above, see below... facts? ARE FACTS!

So, that "all said & aside", well - we have yet more "icing on the cake" (per valid test evidences from respected websites of BOTH Opera's superior SPEED & SECURITY ONLINE for all things "web"):

====

CURRENT DATA:

A.) For SECURITY (& Opera leads there for the LONGEST TIME, yes, even in least security vulnerabilities found over time, typically of the "big 3" webbrowsers)):

1.) iPhone, IE, Firefox, Safari get stomped at hacker contest -> (No Opera noted as "hosed" though, lol) http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/03/25/pwn2own_2010_day_one/

B.) For SPEED (& Opera leads again there, & CONSISTENTLY + for the LONGEST TIME, yes, even in javascript for the LONGEST time, until FF's new engines took its place TEMPRARILY (until Opera 10.50 @ least, because that's gotten a decent "boost" in that area -> http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/12/22/1911216 (not that it matters though, speeding up javascript is like asking to get infected by malscripted sites &/or adbanners faster imo @ least - that of a "POV" of PC security, mostly)):

2.) SunSpider tests done here recently -> http://www.pcpro.co.uk/gallery/features/356350/on-test-the-hidden-seven-browsers-in-the-windows-ballot/145087 WHERE OPERA REGAINS ITS JAVASCRIPT PROCESSING SPEED LEAD OVER FF YET AGAIN!

AND, for SECURITY also (less vulnerabilities present over time than IE or FF, per SECUNIA.COM stats):

----

OPERA 10.x VULNERABILITIES STATS:(01/21/2010)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/26745/?task=statistics

(UNPATCHED = 0% )

There are no unpatched Secunia advisories affecting this product, when all vendor patches are applied..

-----

OLDER DATA (on performance alone):

3.) And this one too last year also -> http://crave.cnet.co.uk/software/0,39029471,49302491,00.htm [cnet.co.uk]

4.) AND IT HAS BEEN "BLOWING AWAY" FIREFOX IN HTML PARSING/PROCESSING SPEEDS AS WELL, & FOR YEARS NOW, per this test years ago -> http://www.howtocreate.co.uk/browserSpeed.html#win [howtocreate.co.uk]

5.) Same here -> http://nontroppo.org/timer/kestrel_tests/ [nontroppo.org]

6.) Yet again/once more? Same story -> http://tech.slashdot.org/story/09/08/08/1750241/Opera-Dominates-CNET-Survey-of-Underdog-Web-Browsers [slashdot.org]

====

AND, WHAT DOES A "HACKER/CRACKER"-SECURITY RESEARCHER TYPE CURRENTLY SAY, ABOUT OPERA (per Opera's showing in #1 above (which is, literally, "hot-off-the-press", from yesterday's news no less))?

OK:

----

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/03/25/pwn2own_2010_day_one/

"The problem Microsoft has is they have a big market share, said Vreugdenhil, the hacker who attacked IE. "I use Opera, but that's basically because it has a tiny market share and as far as I know, nobody is really interested in creating a drive-by download for opera. The web at the moment is pretty scary, actually."

----

Hence, again showing that even the "hacker/cracker" types use Opera, because it's safer to do so, & from the mindset of those DOING THE HACKING/CRACKING no less!

(Opera "rocked the planet" in those cases... bigtime

Per my subject-line above, well "mod me down" all you like but... facts? ARE FACTS!

So, that "all said & aside", well - we have Yet more "icing on the cake" (per valid test evidences from respected websites of BOTH Opera's superior SPEED & SECURITY ONLINE for all things "web"):

====

CURRENT DATA:

A.) For SECURITY (& Opera leads there for the LONGEST TIME, yes, even in least security vulnerabilities found over time, typically of the "big 3" webbrowsers)):

1.) iPhone, IE, Firefox, Safari get stomped at hacker contest -> (No Opera noted as "hosed" though, lol) http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/03/25/pwn2own_2010_day_one/

B.) For SPEED (& Opera leads again there, & CONSISTENTLY + for the LONGEST TIME, yes, even in javascript for the LONGEST time, until FF's new engines took its place TEMPRARILY (until Opera 10.50 @ least, because that's gotten a decent "boost" in that area -> http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/12/22/1911216 (not that it matters though, speeding up javascript is like asking to get infected by malscripted sites &/or adbanners faster imo @ least - that of a "POV" of PC security, mostly)):

2.) SunSpider tests done here recently -> http://www.pcpro.co.uk/gallery/features/356350/on-test-the-hidden-seven-browsers-in-the-windows-ballot/145087 WHERE OPERA REGAINS ITS JAVASCRIPT PROCESSING SPEED LEAD OVER FF YET AGAIN!

AND, for SECURITY also (less vulnerabilities present over time than IE or FF, per SECUNIA.COM stats):

----

OPERA 10.x VULNERABILITIES STATS:(01/21/2010)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/26745/?task=statistics

(UNPATCHED = 0% )

There are no unpatched Secunia advisories affecting this product, when all vendor patches are applied..

-----

OLDER DATA (on performance alone):

3.) And this one too last year also -> http://crave.cnet.co.uk/software/0,39029471,49302491,00.htm [cnet.co.uk]

4.) AND IT HAS BEEN "BLOWING AWAY" FIREFOX IN HTML PARSING/PROCESSING SPEEDS AS WELL, & FOR YEARS NOW, per this test years ago -> http://www.howtocreate.co.uk/browserSpeed.html#win [howtocreate.co.uk]

5.) Same here -> http://nontroppo.org/timer/kestrel_tests/ [nontroppo.org]

6.) Yet again/once more? Same story -> http://tech.slashdot.org/story/09/08/08/1750241/Opera-Dominates-CNET-Survey-of-Underdog-Web-Browsers [slashdot.org]

====

AND, WHAT DOES A "HACKER/CRACKER"-SECURITY RESEARCHER TYPE CURRENTLY SAY, ABOUT OPERA (per Opera's showing in #1 above (which is, literally, "hot-off-the-press", from yesterday's news no less))?

OK:

----

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/03/25/pwn2own_2010_day_one/

"The problem Microsoft has is they have a big market share, said Vreugdenhil, the hacker who attacked IE. "I use Opera, but that's basically because it has a tiny market share and as far as I know, nobody is really interested in creating a drive-by download for opera. The web at the moment is pretty scary, actually."

----

Hence, again showing that even the "hacker/cracker" types use Opera, because it's safer to do so, & from the mindset of those DOING THE HACKING/CRACKING no less!

(Opera "rocked the planet"

Per my subject-line above, well "mod me down" all you like but... facts? ARE FACTS!

So, that "all said & aside", well - we have Yet more "icing on the cake" (per valid test evidences from respected websites of BOTH Opera's superior SPEED & SECURITY ONLINE for all things "web"):

====

CURRENT DATA:

A.) For SECURITY (& Opera leads there for the LONGEST TIME, yes, even in least security vulnerabilities found over time, typically of the "big 3" webbrowsers)):

1.) iPhone, IE, Firefox, Safari get stomped at hacker contest -> (No Opera noted as "hosed" though, lol) http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/03/25/pwn2own_2010_day_one/

B.) For SPEED (& Opera leads again there, & CONSISTENTLY + for the LONGEST TIME, yes, even in javascript for the LONGEST time, until FF's new engines took its place TEMPRARILY (until Opera 10.50 @ least, because that's gotten a decent "boost" in that area -> http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/12/22/1911216 (not that it matters though, speeding up javascript is like asking to get infected by malscripted sites &/or adbanners faster imo @ least - that of a "POV" of PC security, mostly)):

2.) SunSpider tests done here recently -> http://www.pcpro.co.uk/gallery/features/356350/on-test-the-hidden-seven-browsers-in-the-windows-ballot/145087 WHERE OPERA REGAINS ITS JAVASCRIPT PROCESSING SPEED LEAD OVER FF YET AGAIN!

AND, for SECURITY also (less vulnerabilities present over time than IE or FF, per SECUNIA.COM stats):

----

OPERA 10.x VULNERABILITIES STATS:(01/21/2010)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/26745/?task=statistics

(UNPATCHED = 0% )

There are no unpatched Secunia advisories affecting this product, when all vendor patches are applied..

-----

OLDER DATA (on performance alone):

3.) And this one too last year also -> http://crave.cnet.co.uk/software/0,39029471,49302491,00.htm [cnet.co.uk]

4.) AND IT HAS BEEN "BLOWING AWAY" FIREFOX IN HTML PARSING/PROCESSING SPEEDS AS WELL, & FOR YEARS NOW, per this test years ago -> http://www.howtocreate.co.uk/browserSpeed.html#win [howtocreate.co.uk]

5.) Same here -> http://nontroppo.org/timer/kestrel_tests/ [nontroppo.org]

6.) Yet again/once more? Same story -> http://tech.slashdot.org/story/09/08/08/1750241/Opera-Dominates-CNET-Survey-of-Underdog-Web-Browsers [slashdot.org]

====

AND, WHAT DOES A "HACKER/CRACKER"-SECURITY RESEARCHER TYPE CURRENTLY SAY, ABOUT OPERA (per Opera's showing in #1 above (which is, literally, "hot-off-the-press", from yesterday's news no less))?

OK:

----

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/03/25/pwn2own_2010_day_one/

"The problem Microsoft has is they have a big market share, said Vreugdenhil, the hacker who attacked IE. "I use Opera, but that's basically because it has a tiny market share and as far as I know, nobody is really interested in creating a drive-by download for opera. The web at the moment is pretty scary, actually."

----

Hence, again showing that even the "hacker/cracker" types use Opera, because it's safer to do so, & from the mindset of those DOING THE HACKING/CRACKING no less!

(Opera "rocked the planet"

Per my subject-line above, well "mod me down" all you like but... facts? ARE FACTS!

So, that "all said & aside", well - we have Yet more "icing on the cake" (per valid test evidences from respected websites of BOTH Opera's superior SPEED & SECURITY ONLINE for all things "web"):

====

CURRENT DATA:

A.) For SECURITY (& Opera leads there for the LONGEST TIME, yes, even in least security vulnerabilities found over time, typically of the "big 3" webbrowsers)):

1.) iPhone, IE, Firefox, Safari get stomped at hacker contest -> (No Opera noted as "hosed" though, lol) http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/03/25/pwn2own_2010_day_one/

B.) For SPEED (& Opera leads again there, & CONSISTENTLY + for the LONGEST TIME, yes, even in javascript for the LONGEST time, until FF's new engines took its place TEMPRARILY (until Opera 10.50 @ least, because that's gotten a decent "boost" in that area -> http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/12/22/1911216 (not that it matters though, speeding up javascript is like asking to get infected by malscripted sites &/or adbanners faster imo @ least - that of a "POV" of PC security, mostly)):

2.) SunSpider tests done here recently -> http://www.pcpro.co.uk/gallery/features/356350/on-test-the-hidden-seven-browsers-in-the-windows-ballot/145087 WHERE OPERA REGAINS ITS JAVASCRIPT PROCESSING SPEED LEAD OVER FF YET AGAIN!

AND, for SECURITY also (less vulnerabilities present over time than IE or FF, per SECUNIA.COM stats):

----

OPERA 10.x VULNERABILITIES STATS:(01/21/2010)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/26745/?task=statistics

(UNPATCHED = 0% )

There are no unpatched Secunia advisories affecting this product, when all vendor patches are applied..

-----

OLDER DATA (on performance alone):

3.) And this one too last year also -> http://crave.cnet.co.uk/software/0,39029471,49302491,00.htm [cnet.co.uk]

4.) AND IT HAS BEEN "BLOWING AWAY" FIREFOX IN HTML PARSING/PROCESSING SPEEDS AS WELL, & FOR YEARS NOW, per this test years ago -> http://www.howtocreate.co.uk/browserSpeed.html#win [howtocreate.co.uk]

5.) Same here -> http://nontroppo.org/timer/kestrel_tests/ [nontroppo.org]

6.) Yet again/once more? Same story -> http://tech.slashdot.org/story/09/08/08/1750241/Opera-Dominates-CNET-Survey-of-Underdog-Web-Browsers [slashdot.org]

====

AND, WHAT DOES A "HACKER/CRACKER"-SECURITY RESEARCHER TYPE CURRENTLY SAY, ABOUT OPERA (per Opera's showing in #1 above (which is, literally, "hot-off-the-press", from yesterday's news no less))?

OK:

----

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/03/25/pwn2own_2010_day_one/

"The problem Microsoft has is they have a big market share, said Vreugdenhil, the hacker who attacked IE. "I use Opera, but that's basically because it has a tiny market share and as far as I know, nobody is really interested in creating a drive-by download for opera. The web at the moment is pretty scary, actually."

----

Hence, again showing that even the "hacker/cracker" types use Opera, because it's safer to do so, & from the mindset of those DOING THE HACKING/CRACKING no less!

(Opera "rocked the planet"

Per my subject-line above, well "mod me down" all you like but... facts? ARE FACTS!

So, that "all said & aside", well - we have Yet more "icing on the cake" (per valid test evidences from respected websites of BOTH Opera's superior SPEED & SECURITY ONLINE for all things "web"):

====

CURRENT DATA:

A.) For SECURITY (& Opera leads there for the LONGEST TIME, yes, even in least security vulnerabilities found over time, typically of the "big 3" webbrowsers)):

1.) iPhone, IE, Firefox, Safari get stomped at hacker contest -> (No Opera noted as "hosed" though, lol) http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/03/25/pwn2own_2010_day_one/

B.) For SPEED (& Opera leads again there, & CONSISTENTLY + for the LONGEST TIME, yes, even in javascript for the LONGEST time, until FF's new engines took its place TEMPRARILY (until Opera 10.50 @ least, because that's gotten a decent "boost" in that area -> http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/12/22/1911216 (not that it matters though, speeding up javascript is like asking to get infected by malscripted sites &/or adbanners faster imo @ least - that of a "POV" of PC security, mostly)):

2.) SunSpider tests done here recently -> http://www.pcpro.co.uk/gallery/features/356350/on-test-the-hidden-seven-browsers-in-the-windows-ballot/145087 WHERE OPERA REGAINS ITS JAVASCRIPT PROCESSING SPEED LEAD OVER FF YET AGAIN!

AND, for SECURITY also (less vulnerabilities present over time than IE or FF, per SECUNIA.COM stats):

----

OPERA 10.x VULNERABILITIES STATS:(01/21/2010)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/26745/?task=statistics

(UNPATCHED = 0% )

There are no unpatched Secunia advisories affecting this product, when all vendor patches are applied..

-----

OLDER DATA (on performance alone):

3.) And this one too last year also -> http://crave.cnet.co.uk/software/0,39029471,49302491,00.htm [cnet.co.uk]

4.) AND IT HAS BEEN "BLOWING AWAY" FIREFOX IN HTML PARSING/PROCESSING SPEEDS AS WELL, & FOR YEARS NOW, per this test years ago -> http://www.howtocreate.co.uk/browserSpeed.html#win [howtocreate.co.uk]

5.) Same here -> http://nontroppo.org/timer/kestrel_tests/ [nontroppo.org]

6.) Yet again/once more? Same story -> http://tech.slashdot.org/story/09/08/08/1750241/Opera-Dominates-CNET-Survey-of-Underdog-Web-Browsers [slashdot.org]

====

AND, WHAT DOES A "HACKER/CRACKER"-SECURITY RESEARCHER TYPE CURRENTLY SAY, ABOUT OPERA (per Opera's showing in #1 above (which is, literally, "hot-off-the-press", from yesterday's news no less))?

OK:

----

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/03/25/pwn2own_2010_day_one/

"The problem Microsoft has is they have a big market share, said Vreugdenhil, the hacker who attacked IE. "I use Opera, but that's basically because it has a tiny market share and as far as I know, nobody is really interested in creating a drive-by download for opera. The web at the moment is pretty scary, actually."

----

Hence, again showing that even the "hacker/cracker" types use Opera, because it's safer to do so, & from the mindset of those DOING THE HACKING/CRACKING no less!

(Opera "rocked the planet"

Per my subject-line above, well "mod me down" all you like but... facts? ARE FACTS!

So, that "all said & aside", well - we have Yet more "icing on the cake" (per valid test evidences from respected websites of BOTH Opera's superior SPEED & SECURITY ONLINE for all things "web"):

====

CURRENT DATA:

A.) For SECURITY (& Opera led there for the LONGEST TIME, yes, even in least security vulnerabilities found over time, typically of the "big 3" webbrowsers)):

1.) iPhone, IE, Firefox, Safari get stomped at hacker contest -> (No Opera noted though) http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/03/25/pwn2own_2010_day_one/

B.) For SPEED (& Opera leads again there, & CONSISTENTLY + for the LONGEST TIME, yes, even in javascript for the LONGEST time, until FF's new engines took its place TEMPRARILY (until Opera 10.50 @ least, because that's gotten a decent "boost" in that area -> http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/12/22/1911216 (not that it matters though, speeding up javascript is like asking to get infected by malscripted sites &/or adbanners faster imo @ least - that of a "POV" of PC security, mostly)):

2.) SunSpider tests done here recently -> http://www.pcpro.co.uk/gallery/features/356350/on-test-the-hidden-seven-browsers-in-the-windows-ballot/145087 WHERE OPERA REGAINS ITS JAVASCRIPT PROCESSING SPEED LEAD OVER FF YET AGAIN!

AND, for SECURITY also (less vulnerabilities present over time than IE or FF, per SECUNIA.COM stats):

----

OPERA 10.x VULNERABILITIES STATS:(01/21/2010)

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/26745/?task=statistics

(UNPATCHED = 0% )

There are no unpatched Secunia advisories affecting this product, when all vendor patches are applied..

-----

OLDER DATA (on performance alone):

3.) And this one too last year also -> http://crave.cnet.co.uk/software/0,39029471,49302491,00.htm [cnet.co.uk]

4.) AND IT HAS BEEN "BLOWING AWAY" FIREFOX IN HTML PARSING/PROCESSING SPEEDS AS WELL, & FOR YEARS NOW, per this test years ago -> http://www.howtocreate.co.uk/browserSpeed.html#win [howtocreate.co.uk]

5.) Same here -> http://nontroppo.org/timer/kestrel_tests/ [nontroppo.org]

6.) Yet again/once more? Same story -> http://tech.slashdot.org/story/09/08/08/1750241/Opera-Dominates-CNET-Survey-of-Underdog-Web-Browsers [slashdot.org]

====

AND, WHAT DOES A "HACKER/CRACKER"-SECURITY RESEARCHER TYPE CURRENTLY SAY, ABOUT OPERA (per Opera's showing in #1 above (which is, literally, "hot-off-the-press", from yesterday's news no less))?

OK:

----

"The problem Microsoft has is they have a big market share, said Vreugdenhil, the hacker who attacked IE. "I use Opera, but that's basically because it has a tiny market share and as far as I know, nobody is really interested in creating a drive-by download for opera. The web at the moment is pretty scary, actually."

----

Hence, again showing that even the "hacker/cracker" types use Opera, because it's safer to do so, & from the mindset of those DOING THE HACKING/CRACKING no less!

(Opera "rocked the planet" in those cases... bigtime (& ESPECIALLY ON THE MOST USED PLATFORM THERE IS, BAR-NONE, FOR PC-COMPUTING: Windows!))

People, face it - MOD ME DOWN, ALL YO

"You know perfectly well what it means, LOL." - by clone53421 (1310749) on Thursday March 25, @08:26AM (#31609030)

Actually, no, I do not... wtf, lol, is "kimmo"?

After all, you said THAT (whatever the heck it means or is), here:

"Whatever, Kimmo" - by clone53421 (1310749) on Wednesday March 24, @04:26PM (#31603046) Journal

?

WTF??

APK

P.S.=> I honestly have never heard that term before... is it like, some new form of "ebonics" or something (like a non-English language term)?

LOL, or are YOU attempting to invent some new term on your own??

I mean, hey - You come in here, trolling me, & you also do so in name tossing & dispense your English writing critiques directed my way (oldest troll trick in the book, lol) minus a PHD in English on YOUR PART/to your name-credit!

(To top that off, then, lmao... Then, lmao... you attempted to offer your "expert prognosis" on my mental state, again lacking a PHD on your part/to your name-credit in psychology as well (plus your lacking a license to practice that, or your having performed a formal diagnostic on myself in order to do so as well))

Please - give us a break, ok?

Get over your OCD (or whatever it is), & accept you have been shown as just another troll beaten by facts...

Facts that showed via valid tests, charts, & yes, articles showing anyone reading them that time & again, OPERA HAS BEEN SHOWN TO BE THE SAFEST & FASTEST BROWSER THERE IS, WITH THE LARGEST NATIVE FEATURESET BUILT RIGHT IN, NATIVELY ALSO... here they are again, for your reference:

----

1.) SunSpider tests done here recently -> http://www.pcpro.co.uk/gallery/features/356350/on-test-the-hidden-seven-browsers-in-the-windows-ballot/145087

2.) AND IT HAS BEEN "BLOWING AWAY" FIREFOX IN HTML PARSING/PROCESSING SPEEDS AS WELL, & FOR YEARS NOW, per this test years ago -> http://www.howtocreate.co.uk/browserSpeed.html#win

3.) And this one too last year also -> http://crave.cnet.co.uk/software/0,39029471,49302491,00.htm

4.) Same here -> http://nontroppo.org/timer/kestrel_tests/

5.) Yet again/once more? Same story -> http://tech.slashdot.org/story/09/08/08/1750241/Opera-Dominates-CNET-Survey-of-Underdog-Web-Browsers

----

(Want more?)

Clone, please - You wno't even acknowledge those legitimate articles, tests, charts & more... lol, again: "Gee, I wonder why?" - because "inquiring minds want to know", lol... ('too, Too, TOO EASY!!!")

LOL, man - It is TRULY hilarious in you continuously saying I didn't post any valid information backing that claim on my part, when I repeatedly have (poor showing Mr. Troll)... & of course?

"too, Too, TOO EASY!!!"... apk

Per my subject-line above, & these articles + their tests (which you "conveniently avoid", lmao ("gee, I wonder why" - 'inquiring minds want to know", lol))? Such things already have shown & PROVEN OPERA IS THE FASTEST & SAFEST WEBBROWSER PROGRAM ON THE FACE OF THIS PLANET CURRENTLY & IN THE PAST TOO CONSISTENTLY, + WITH THE LARGEST NATIVE FEATURESET BUILT-IN NATIVELY... again, for your reference:

----

1.) SunSpider tests done here recently -> http://www.pcpro.co.uk/gallery/features/356350/on-test-the-hidden-seven-browsers-in-the-windows-ballot/145087

2.) AND IT HAS BEEN "BLOWING AWAY" FIREFOX IN HTML PARSING/PROCESSING SPEEDS AS WELL, & FOR YEARS NOW, per this test years ago -> http://www.howtocreate.co.uk/browserSpeed.html#win

3.) And this one too last year also -> http://crave.cnet.co.uk/software/0,39029471,49302491,00.htm

4.) Same here -> http://nontroppo.org/timer/kestrel_tests/

5.) Yet again/once more? Same story -> http://tech.slashdot.org/story/09/08/08/1750241/Opera-Dominates-CNET-Survey-of-Underdog-Web-Browsers

----

(Want more?)

Clone, please - You wno't even acknowledge those legitimate articles, tests, charts & more... lol, again: "Gee, I wonder why?" - because "inquiring minds want to know", lol... ('too, Too, TOO EASY!!!")

APK

P.S.=> Once more, on the subject of checking on which browsers are the FASTEST & SAFEST? Well - again, I make a sort of, well, "pet project/hobby" of this in fact, call it a personal interest, (so I can decide which web-browser is truly, "the SUPERIOR WARRIOR" out here is all): Clone, you've really given a SERIOUSLY weak showing here... apk

See subject-line, & these articles, charts, & tests below (that show Opera's superior speed in all things "web"):

"I said AN ARTICLE, not OFFTOPIC COMMENTS." - by clone53421 (1310749) on Wednesday March 24, @04:38PM (#31603222)

These are all charts, tests, articles... or, are you blind (or just being silly)?

1.) SunSpider tests done here recently -> http://www.pcpro.co.uk/gallery/features/356350/on-test-the-hidden-seven-browsers-in-the-windows-ballot/145087

2.) AND IT HAS BEEN "BLOWING AWAY" FIREFOX IN HTML PARSING/PROCESSING SPEEDS AS WELL, & FOR YEARS NOW, per this test years ago -> http://www.howtocreate.co.uk/browserSpeed.html#win

3.) And this one too last year also -> http://crave.cnet.co.uk/software/0,39029471,49302491,00.htm

----

And here are a few more, just for "good measure" that I know of (I make a "pet project/hobby" of this in fact, call it a personal interest, so I can decide which web-browser is truly, "the SUPERIOR WARRIOR" out here is all):

http://nontroppo.org/timer/kestrel_tests/

and

http://tech.slashdot.org/story/09/08/08/1750241/Opera-Dominates-CNET-Survey-of-Underdog-Web-Browsers

(Want more?)

APK

P.S.=> Clone, you've really given a SERIOUSLY weak showing here... apk

See subject-line above, & then the URL's to valid tests (old, middle aged, & NEW no less) that illustrate Opera's superiority in speed in all things "web" - I really thought you were better than that, but... oh well, apparently not (it's lies, or you cannot read & are illiterate, or you skim + miss things):

"Because you have avoided my simple request to submit a related article so we can discuss it." - by clone53421 (1310749) on Wednesday March 24, @04:05PM (#31602712)

I've been REPEATEDLY pasting these in @ your request to examine... & good luck "discussing" or debating facts they illustrate (that Opera's just PLAIN-JANE FASTER in all things "web"):

----

1.) SunSpider tests done here recently -> http://www.pcpro.co.uk/gallery/features/356350/on-test-the-hidden-seven-browsers-in-the-windows-ballot/145087 [pcpro.co.uk]

2.) AND IT HAS BEEN "BLOWING AWAY" FIREFOX IN HTML PARSING/PROCESSING SPEEDS AS WELL, & FOR YEARS NOW, per this test years ago -> http://www.howtocreate.co.uk/browserSpeed.html#win

3.) And this one too last year also -> http://crave.cnet.co.uk/software/0,39029471,49302491,00.htm

----

And here are a few more, just for "good measure" that I know of (I make a "pet project/hobby" of this in fact, call it a personal interest, so I can decide which web-browser is truly, "the SUPERIOR WARRIOR" out here is all):

http://nontroppo.org/timer/kestrel_tests/

and

http://tech.slashdot.org/story/09/08/08/1750241/Opera-Dominates-CNET-Survey-of-Underdog-Web-Browsers

(Want more?)

Opera kicked butt in those tests, overall, bigtime & especially in Speed (& iirc, on passing the ACID tests too as well) - I really wouldn't say it, if I wasn't pretty SURE it was the case... & besides, Opera's WIDELY KNOWN & often called "the fastest browser there is" as well as having the most features natively built in too (without the bloat & lag + possible errors addons often introduce into webbrowsers).

APK

P.S.=> I even tried to WARN YOU that I had this type of data "stacked up & ready" for that type of thing, but no... now? Now you are apparently REDUCED TO LYING (it's that, or you skim like hell or are illiterate)... thus, - I wonder, which of the 3 is the case here?)

"It's the wrong article. Post an article about Opera's superior speed and we can discuss it to your heart's content." - by clone53421 (1310749) on Tuesday March 23, @12:12PM (#31584938)

Clone, please... that's your WORST "Evasion" yet man!

Ahem, lol: The data is in that URL next, just as I said it was..., read it again:

http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1591778&cid=31583334

(You really do NOT read, do you? I suggest you get "hooked on phonics" man, because I did put up verifiable data in that link above).

BUT, since you asked? Here you are, yet again:

1.) SunSpider tests done here recently -> http://www.pcpro.co.uk/gallery/features/356350/on-test-the-hidden-seven-browsers-in-the-windows-ballot/145087 [pcpro.co.uk]

2.) AND IT HAS BEEN "BLOWING AWAY" FIREFOX IN HTML PARSING/PROCESSING SPEEDS AS WELL, & FOR YEARS NOW, per this test years ago -> http://www.howtocreate.co.uk/browserSpeed.html#win and this one too last year also -> http://crave.cnet.co.uk/software/0,39029471,49302491,00.htm

(Want more? Just ask...)

APK

P.S.=> I'm going to be FAIR AGAIN about this & tell you some facts: I've been tracking Opera vs. FF for years now (call it a hobby, as I like them both) & I have a WEALTH of such data, over time as well as current (ala that 1st & 2nd set of URLs above)... apk

The known bugs being at zero looks good, but so does his speed data. It's strange all the firefox fanbois avoid that speed part though. I've got to give him that. He has you all running on that one, and all you'd have to do is admit he is correct on Opera being faster than Firefox is all. I read that data, here it is quoted again for your reference:

OPERA ALSO SURPASSES FIREFOX IN BROWSING SPEED, at BOTH the javascript processing & HTML processing/parsing speeds levels as well, consistently & for years, no less!

1.) SunSpider tests done here recently -> http://www.pcpro.co.uk/gallery/features/356350/on-test-the-hidden-seven-browsers-in-the-windows-ballot/145087

2.) AND IT HAS BEEN "BLOWING AWAY" FIREFOX IN HTML PARSING/PROCESSING SPEEDS AS WELL, & FOR YEARS NOW, per this test years ago -> http://www.howtocreate.co.uk/browserSpeed.html#win and this one too last year also -> http://crave.cnet.co.uk/software/0,39029471,49302491,00.htm

Modding him down for posting verifiable facts though guys? Poor showing fellas. Opera is a decent browser, for both speed and security, and verfiable reliable tests show it.

"No, no PHD in English, but I do have As in several college writing classes under my belt." - by clone53421 (1310749) on Tuesday March 23, @11:50AM (#31584628)

Nice, however - I happen to be in possession of a COUPLE OF DEGREES from colleges (one b.s., another one going towards a b.s. in another discipline as we speak today in fact (A.A.S. part is done, now credits-wise 92++ or so towards the 120 required in fact (taking my time here though, it costs, as well you know apparently) & BOTH are sciences).

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"Anyway, it doesn't take a PHD to tell that your writing style is hideous." - by clone53421 (1310749) on Tuesday March 23, @11:50AM (#31584628)

"So sayeth the writing expert", minus a PHD (and doubtless minus the 2.5 degrees I have too)...

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"I'd rank it almost "ass end of a baboon". Nowhere near "goatse", though... you have a long way to go, young whippersnapper." - by clone53421 (1310749) on Tuesday March 23, @11:50AM (#31584628)

Well, I'm 45 yrs. old man... how about you? Additionally - I certainly don't avoid questions, & I supply valid data too... you evade mine, to no end by comparison (lol) & your use of PROFANITIES? Please - that's only indicative of your frustration (which you bring on yourself by avoiding my question below)... see below:

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Still - opinions vary on "writing style" & you're no PHD in English so (and neither is this the "writing critique section" of /., lol, either).

SO, tell us won't you (enough evasions man) - what's the "Superior Warrior" online for speed? Opera or FireFox??

EVIDENCES THEREOF TO THAT EFFECT WHICH I HAVE GLADLY WELCOMED YOU TO DISPROVE AND TO FIND MORE CURRENT DATA THAN THIS TO CONTRADICT MY FAVORING OPERA:

1.) SunSpider tests done here recently -> http://www.pcpro.co.uk/gallery/features/356350/on-test-the-hidden-seven-browsers-in-the-windows-ballot/145087 [pcpro.co.uk]

2.) AND IT HAS BEEN "BLOWING AWAY" FIREFOX IN HTML PARSING/PROCESSING SPEEDS AS WELL, & FOR YEARS NOW, per this test years ago -> http://www.howtocreate.co.uk/browserSpeed.html#win [howtocreate.co.uk] and this one too last year also -> http://crave.cnet.co.uk/software/0,39029471,49302491,00.htm [cnet.co.uk]

("Beat that with a stick" - as the saying goes!)

So, like I stated in the other posting where YOU are attempting to troll me (with your STALE FACTS, doubtless due to FF's "Superior online speed" (lol, not))? Show me more current tests where FF's speed online is better than FF's, & I'll eat my words.

Good luck... you can't come up with that data, AND YOU KNOW IT (lol).

APK

P.S.=> Ah heck... this is just "too, Too, TOO EASY!", as per usual! Let me tell you all this - it is amusing to me, to NO END, to watch "fanboys" SQUIRM & have to go off topic, lol... hiliarious: A moment of TRULY "high comedy" for me (I hope it is for you all reading as well)... sorry it comes @ your expense clone, you're a bit nicer than most fanboy trolls @ least, I'll give you that! apk

"All I admitted is that I don't read the vast majority of the drivel you post." - by clone53421 (1310749) on Tuesday March 23, @11:15AM (#31584078)

OK: See subject-line, & then? THEN, take a "refresher" of this data below then for you, short & sweet (data):

1.) SunSpider tests done here recently -> http://www.pcpro.co.uk/gallery/features/356350/on-test-the-hidden-seven-browsers-in-the-windows-ballot/145087 [pcpro.co.uk]

2.) AND IT HAS BEEN "BLOWING AWAY" FIREFOX IN HTML PARSING/PROCESSING SPEEDS AS WELL, & FOR YEARS NOW, per this test years ago -> http://www.howtocreate.co.uk/browserSpeed.html#win [howtocreate.co.uk] and this one too last year also -> http://crave.cnet.co.uk/software/0,39029471,49302491,00.htm [cnet.co.uk]

("Beat that with a stick" - as the saying goes!)

APK

P.S.=> Clone, the use of drivel being directed my way? Come on man - THAT doesn't impress me (or other readers), as its only an 'evasive maneuver' on your part, vs. easily verified concrete current AND PAST data on Opera's superiority in speed is all... better luck next time, eh? apk

OPERA ALSO SURPASSES FIREFOX IN BROWSING SPEED, at BOTH the javascript processing & HTML processing/parsing speeds levels as well, consistently & for years, no less!

"Offtopic. I didn't even read it." - by clone53421 (1310749) on Tuesday March 23, @10:20AM (#31583284)

Oh, "somehow", lol, I think you did... & per my subject-line above? YOU ARE CAUGHT FLAT FOOTED with no data to the contrary vs. my own easily verfied tests below!

EVIDENCES THEREOF:

1.) SunSpider tests done here recently -> http://www.pcpro.co.uk/gallery/features/356350/on-test-the-hidden-seven-browsers-in-the-windows-ballot/145087

2.) AND IT HAS BEEN "BLOWING AWAY" FIREFOX IN HTML PARSING/PROCESSING SPEEDS AS WELL, & FOR YEARS NOW, per this test years ago -> http://www.howtocreate.co.uk/browserSpeed.html#win and this one too last year also -> http://crave.cnet.co.uk/software/0,39029471,49302491,00.htm

("Beat that with a stick" - as the saying goes!)

So, like I stated in the other posting where YOU are attempting to troll me (with your STALE FACTS, doubtless due to FF's "Superior online speed" (lol, not))? Show me more current tests where FF's speed online is better than FF's, & I'll eat my words.

Good luck... you can't come up with that data, AND YOU KNOW IT (lol).

APK

P.S.=> Nicest part about Opera is that it originates a LOT of what folks consider cool, as far as browser features, & first (e,g, - tabbed browsing anyone), & it contains features you cannot get in FireFox & IE natively (i.e - without addons (such as site by site choices of whether to run javascript on a website, or not (javascript IS what gets you people all "hit" by these online attacks, 9/10 times (literally, it's the "main delivery mechanism" of MOST online attacks, & sites like SECUNIA.COM or SECURITYFOCUS.COM can show anybody that much, easily))))... apk

OPERA ALSO SURPASSES FIREFOX IN BROWSING SPEED, at BOTH the javascript processing & HTML processing/parsing speeds levels as well, consistently & for years, no less!

Per these evidences recently & over time also:

1.) SunSpider tests done here recently -> http://www.pcpro.co.uk/gallery/features/356350/on-test-the-hidden-seven-browsers-in-the-windows-ballot/145087

2.) AND IT HAS BEEN "BLOWING AWAY" FIREFOX IN HTML PARSING/PROCESSING SPEEDS AS WELL, & FOR YEARS NOW, per this test years ago -> http://www.howtocreate.co.uk/browserSpeed.html#win and this one too last year also -> http://crave.cnet.co.uk/software/0,39029471,49302491,00.htm

("Beat that with a stick" - as the saying goes!)

So, like I stated in the other posting where YOU are attempting to troll me (with your STALE FACTS, doubtless due to FF's "Superior online speed" (lol, not))? Show me more current tests where FF's speed online is better than FF's, & I'll eat my words. Good luck... you can't come up with that data, AND YOU KNOW IT (lol).

APK

P.S.=> Nicest part about Opera is that it originates a LOT of what folks consider cool, as far as browser features, & first (e,g, - tabbed browsing anyone), & it contains features you cannot get in FireFox & IE natively (i.e - without addons (such as site by site choices of whether to run javascript on a website, or not (javascript IS what gets you people all "hit" by these online attacks, 9/10 times (literally, it's the "main delivery mechanism" of MOST online attacks, & sites like SECUNIA.COM or SECURITYFOCUS.COM can show anybody that much, easily))))... apk

OPERA ALSO SURPASSES FIREFOX IN BROWSING SPEED, at BOTH the javascript processing & HTML processing/parsing speeds levels as well, consistently & for years, no less!

Per latest:

1.) SunSpider tests done here recently -> http://www.pcpro.co.uk/gallery/features/356350/on-test-the-hidden-seven-browsers-in-the-windows-ballot/145087 [pcpro.co.uk]

2.) AND IT HAS BEEN "BLOWING AWAY" FIREFOX IN HTML PARSING/PROCESSING SPEEDS AS WELL, & FOR YEARS NOW, per this test years ago -> http://www.howtocreate.co.uk/browserSpeed.html#win [howtocreate.co.uk] and this one too last year also -> http://crave.cnet.co.uk/software/0,39029471,49302491,00.htm [cnet.co.uk]

("Beat that with a stick" - as the saying goes!)

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"And stop copy-pasting reams of completely offtopic pro-Opera propaganda into your comment. Offtopic because they have nothing to do with the comment, they are simply there to advertise your fanatical devotion to Opera." - by clone53421 (1310749) on Tuesday March 23, @09:53AM (#31582892)

Uhm, in a word? NO... make me: Newsflash - you can't... awww, too bad!

AND?

I am only posting VERIFIABLE FACTS (that's NOT propoganda)!

Now - you show me more current tests that show FF's lead in speed vs. Opera (especially on the MOST USED OS PLATFORM THERE IS BAR NONE, in Windows)? I'll eat my words... lol, thing is though? YOU CAN'T!

(And you know it).

APK

P.S.=> Nicest part about Opera is that it originates a LOT of what folks consider cool, as far as browser features, & first (e,g, - tabbed browsing anyone), & it contains features you cannot get in FireFox & IE natively (i.e - without addons (such as site by site choices of whether to run javascript on a website, or not (javascript IS what gets you people all "hit" by these online attacks, 9/10 times (literally, it's the "main delivery mechanism" of MOST online attacks, & sites like SECUNIA.COM or SECURITYFOCUS.COM can show anybody that much, easily))))... apk

"Why indeed. Why are you trolling Firefox for an old, patched vulnerability?" - by clone53421 (1310749) on Tuesday March 23, @09:54AM (#31582908)

Funny: Didn't YOU DO THAT VERY THING, first? See URL below, your 1st reply once more:

http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1591778&cid=31582542

Then again, I just did what you did, AFTER you did it: I posted the link to FF's bug is all (bit more current of a bug than Opera's though, eh? Funny you avoid that, AND SPEED tests too, eh?? LMAO!)

LIKE I SAID:

Apparently, you need a browser with SUPERIOR SPEED ONLINE (as Opera undoubtedly has, on "all things web", per proofs in tests below), because you're posting OLD, STALE, OUTTA DATE NEWS (must be that "sheer speed" FF has eh? Well, funny, these tests from years past AND CURRENTLY, seem to show Opera as the "speed king"... not FF! Read 'em & weep):

OPERA ALSO SURPASSES FIREFOX IN BROWSING SPEED, at BOTH the javascript processing & HTML processing/parsing speeds levels as well, consistently & for years, no less!

Per latest:

1.) SunSpider tests done here recently -> http://www.pcpro.co.uk/gallery/features/356350/on-test-the-hidden-seven-browsers-in-the-windows-ballot/145087 [pcpro.co.uk]

2.) AND IT HAS BEEN "BLOWING AWAY" FIREFOX IN HTML PARSING/PROCESSING SPEEDS AS WELL, & FOR YEARS NOW, per this test years ago -> http://www.howtocreate.co.uk/browserSpeed.html#win [howtocreate.co.uk] and this one too last year also -> http://crave.cnet.co.uk/software/0,39029471,49302491,00.htm [cnet.co.uk]

("Beat that with a stick", as the saying goes!)

APK

P.S.=> Nicest part about Opera is that it originates a LOT of what folks consider cool, as far as browser features, & first (e,g, - tabbed browsing anyone), & it contains features you cannot get in FireFox & IE natively (i.e - without addons (such as site by site choices of whether to run javascript on a website, or not (javascript IS what gets you people all "hit" by these online attacks, 9/10 times (literally, it's the "main delivery mechanism" of MOST online attacks, & sites like SECUNIA.COM or SECURITYFOCUS.COM can show anybody that much, easily))))... apk

"Other than the reason of you being an idiot, but that goes without saying." - by clone53421 (1310749) on Tuesday March 23, @09:54AM (#31582908)

Ah, toss all the names you want to - that's just a sign you are losing badly... & again - get yourself a browser with some more speed (it'll help you NOT POST OLD STALE NEWS, lol, like you did in that 1st URL above)... apk

See subject-line above "Clone" & I suggest improving your browsing experience with a webbrowser that has more speed... because you posted VERY OLD NEWS!

Perhaps, again, that's indicative of FF's inferiority in speed online? Hmmm??

Still, based on your "reply", I must ask you a question - Are you, like, into "day old bakery goods" too?

(Apparently you are, posting "OLD NEWS"... lol!)

Still, perhaps that is NOT YOUR FAULT, you posting OLD news that is outta date (again - since FF is PROVABLY slower than Opera, proof below):

OPERA ALSO SURPASSES FIREFOX IN BROWSING SPEED, at BOTH the javascript processing & HTML processing/parsing speeds levels as well, consistently & for years, no less!

Per latest:

1.) SunSpider tests done here recently -> http://www.pcpro.co.uk/gallery/features/356350/on-test-the-hidden-seven-browsers-in-the-windows-ballot/145087 [pcpro.co.uk] [pcpro.co.uk]

2.) AND IT HAS BEEN "BLOWING AWAY" FIREFOX IN HTML PARSING/PROCESSING SPEEDS AS WELL, & FOR YEARS NOW, per this test years ago -> http://www.howtocreate.co.uk/browserSpeed.html#win and this one too last year also -> http://crave.cnet.co.uk/software/0,39029471,49302491,00.htm

("Beat that with a stick", as the saying goes!)

APK

P.S.=> LOL, this posting & others I did made me just laugh though - nearly every post I did was "modded down", & the funniest part is, all I did was inform people about Opera, with verifiable concrete facts (this only makes me realize I am surrounded by a pack of Mozilla/Firefox fanboys - however, the FUNNY part is, is this: I actually LIKE & USE Mozilla FireFox too... it's just that I see Opera CONSISTENTLY beat FF in both speed, and overall security too, typically & for years now (though FF has done a great job lately on keeping up vs. security vulnerabilities, admittedly, especially vs. their track-record in years past))... apk

http://news.slashdot.org/story/10/03/20/1436251/Mozilla-Plans-Fix-For-Critical-Firefox-Vulnerability-In-Next-Release

News: Mozilla Plans Fix For Critical Firefox Vulnerability In Next Release:

http://news.slashdot.org/story/10/03/20/1436251/Mozilla-Plans-Fix-For-Critical-Firefox-Vulnerability-In-Next-Release

LMAO!

"Yes, because Opera has never had this sort of vulnerability!" - by clone53421 (1310749) on Tuesday March 23, @09:27AM (#31582488)

Oh, THAT's SO "clever" of you, posting an OLD Opera bug (the one I put up above, it's a "wee bit more current", wouldn't you say? LOL!)...

?

(See, I can "play those games too", & POST OLD NEWS, just like you (mine's a BIT MORE CURRENT THOUGH, eh??))

Still, based on your "reply", I must ask you a question - Are you, like, into "day old bakery goods" too?

(Apparently you are, posting "OLD NEWS"... lol!)

Still, perhaps that is NOT YOUR FAULT, you posting OLD news that is outta date (again - since FF is PROVABLY slower than Opera, proof below):

OPERA ALSO SURPASSES FIREFOX IN BROWSING SPEED, at BOTH the javascript processing & HTML processing/parsing speeds levels as well, consistently & for years, no less!

Per latest:

1.) SunSpider tests done here recently -> http://www.pcpro.co.uk/gallery/features/356350/on-test-the-hidden-seven-browsers-in-the-windows-ballot/145087 [pcpro.co.uk] [pcpro.co.uk]

2.) AND IT HAS BEEN "BLOWING AWAY" FIREFOX IN HTML PARSING/PROCESSING SPEEDS AS WELL, & FOR YEARS NOW, per this test years ago -> http://www.howtocreate.co.uk/browserSpeed.html#win and this one too last year also -> http://crave.cnet.co.uk/software/0,39029471,49302491,00.htm

("Beat that with a stick", as the saying goes!)

APK

P.S.=> LOL, this posting & others I did made me just laugh though - nearly every post I did was "modded down", & the funniest part is, all I did was inform people about Opera, with verifiable concrete facts (this only makes me realize I am surrounded by a pack of Mozilla/Firefox fanboys - however, the FUNNY part is, is this: I actually LIKE & USE Mozilla FireFox too... it's just that I see Opera CONSISTENTLY beat FF in both speed, and overall security too, typically & for years now (though FF has done a great job lately on keeping up vs. security vulnerabilities, admittedly, especially vs. their track-record in years past))... apk

Yup: Like I said in my last post? Opera has superior speed (& loads of tests showed that in my last post you replied to)... hence, why you are posting "old news" (stale/outta date) - it's that LACK OF SPEED FF HAS, especially vs. Opera!

New news! Read on:

"Of course Opera 10.51 has been released to patch it... just like Firefox 2.6.2 has been released to patch this one" - by clone53421 (1310749) on Tuesday March 23, @09:31AM (#31582542)

Oh, THAT's SO "clever"... should I post this too then?

News: Mozilla Plans Fix For Critical Firefox Vulnerability In Next Release:

http://news.slashdot.org/story/10/03/20/1436251/Mozilla-Plans-Fix-For-Critical-Firefox-Vulnerability-In-Next-Release

?

(See, I can "play those games too", & POST OLD NEWS, just like you (mine's a BIT MORE CURRENT THOUGH, eh??))

Still, based on your "reply", I must ask you a question - Are you, like, into "day old bakery goods" too?

(Apparently you are, posting "OLD NEWS"... lol!)

Still, perhaps that is NOT YOUR FAULT (since FF is slower than Opera, proof below):

OPERA ALSO SURPASSES FIREFOX IN BROWSING SPEED, at BOTH the javascript processing & HTML processing/parsing speeds levels as well, consistently & for years, no less!

Per latest:

1.) SunSpider tests done here recently -> http://www.pcpro.co.uk/gallery/features/356350/on-test-the-hidden-seven-browsers-in-the-windows-ballot/145087 [pcpro.co.uk]

2.) AND IT HAS BEEN "BLOWING AWAY" FIREFOX IN HTML PARSING/PROCESSING SPEEDS AS WELL, & FOR YEARS NOW, per this test years ago -> http://www.howtocreate.co.uk/browserSpeed.html#win and this one too last year also -> http://crave.cnet.co.uk/software/0,39029471,49302491,00.htm

("Beat that with a stick", as the saying goes!)

APK

P.S.=> LOL, this posting & others I did made me just laugh though (not @ you though - you seem honest enough about your questions) - nearly every post I did was "modded down", & the funniest part is, all I did was inform people about Opera, with verifiable concrete facts (this only makes me realize I am surrounded by a pack of Mozilla/Firefox fanboys - however, the FUNNY part is, is this: I actually LIKE & USE Mozilla FireFox too... it's just that I see Opera CONSISTENTLY beat FF in both speed, and overall security too, typically & for years now (though FF has done a great job lately on keeping up vs. security vulnerabilities, admittedly, especially vs. their track-record in years past))... apk

If it is an old machine, the IT company should write it off for tax purposes anyway.

I presume that's what TFS is referring to by "Old computer equipment often ends up in landfill, or in toxic illegal re-cycling centers in developing countries, because users think it is not cost-effective to repair it."

Same applies for personal use too - I can see it being wasteful to ditch a whole working computer when it's only one component that needs failing, but most people don't have the knowledge or time to figure it out, and repair costs often seem extortionate.

But I think we also need to sort out the invasive and dubious practices that go on at many PC repair shops. There's no way I'd let my hard disk anywhere near a PC repair shop.

See subject-line above - & also, note this report from SECUNIA:

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Vulnerability Report: Opera 10.x:

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/26745/

Unpatched 0% (0 of 5 Secunia advisories)

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Download Opera 10.51 FINAL RELEASE, here:

http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/

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OPERA ALSO SURPASSES FIREFOX IN BROWSING SPEED, at BOTH the javascript processing & HTML processing/parsing speeds levels as well, consistently & for years, no less!

Per latest:

1.) SunSpider tests done here recently -> http://www.pcpro.co.uk/gallery/features/356350/on-test-the-hidden-seven-browsers-in-the-windows-ballot/145087

2.) AND OPERA HAS BEEN "BLOWING AWAY" FIREFOX & IE, by far, N HTML PARSING/PROCESSING SPEEDS AS WELL, & FOR YEARS NOW, per this test years ago -> http://www.howtocreate.co.uk/browserSpeed.html#win and this one too last year also -> http://crave.cnet.co.uk/software/0,39029471,49302491,00.htm

("Beat that with a stick"... as the saying goes!)

APK

P.S.=> Nicest part about Opera is that it originates a LOT of what folks consider cool, as far as browser features, & first (e,g, - tabbed browsing anyone), & it contains features you cannot get in FireFox & IE natively (i.e - without addons (such as site by site choices of whether to run javascript on a website, or not (javascript IS what gets you people all "hit" by these online attacks, 9/10 times (literally, it's the "main delivery mechanism" of MOST online attacks, & sites like SECUNIA.COM or SECURITYFOCUS.COM can show anybody that much, easily))))... apk

See subject-line above - & also, note this report from SECUNIA:

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Vulnerability Report: Opera 10.x:

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/26745/

Unpatched 0% (0 of 5 Secunia advisories)

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Download Opera 10.51 FINAL RELEASE, here:

http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/

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OPERA ALSO SURPASSES FIREFOX IN BROWSING SPEED, at BOTH the javascript processing & HTML processing/parsing speeds levels as well, consistently & for years, no less!

Per latest:

1.) SunSpider tests done here recently -> http://www.pcpro.co.uk/gallery/features/356350/on-test-the-hidden-seven-browsers-in-the-windows-ballot/145087

2.) AND IT HAS BEEN "BLOWING AWAY" FIREFOX IN HTML PARSING/PROCESSING SPEEDS AS WELL, & FOR YEARS NOW, per this test years ago -> http://www.howtocreate.co.uk/browserSpeed.html#win and this one too last year also -> http://crave.cnet.co.uk/software/0,39029471,49302491,00.htm

("Beat that with a stick" - as the saying goes!)

APK

P.S.=> Nicest part about Opera is that it originates a LOT of what folks consider cool, as far as browser features, & first (e,g, - tabbed browsing anyone), & it contains features you cannot get in FireFox & IE natively (i.e - without addons (such as site by site choices of whether to run javascript on a website, or not (javascript IS what gets you people all "hit" by these online attacks, 9/10 times (literally, it's the "main delivery mechanism" of MOST online attacks, & sites like SECUNIA.COM or SECURITYFOCUS.COM can show anybody that much, easily))))... apk

See subject-line above - & also, note this report from SECUNIA:

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Vulnerability Report: Opera 10.x:

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/26745/

Unpatched 0% (0 of 5 Secunia advisories)

----

Download Opera 10.51 FINAL RELEASE, here:

http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/

----

OPERA ALSO SURPASSES FIREFOX IN BROWSING SPEED, at BOTH the javascript processing & HTML processing/parsing speeds levels as well, consistently & for years, no less!

Per these tests, & consistently, for years now no less:

1.) SunSpider tests done here recently -> http://www.pcpro.co.uk/gallery/features/356350/on-test-the-hidden-seven-browsers-in-the-windows-ballot/145087

2.) AND IT HAS BEEN "BLOWING AWAY" FIREFOX IN HTML PARSING/PROCESSING SPEEDS AS WELL, & FOR YEARS NOW, per this test years ago -> http://www.howtocreate.co.uk/browserSpeed.html#win and this one too last year also -> http://crave.cnet.co.uk/software/0,39029471,49302491,00.htm

("Beat that with a stick", as the saying goes!)

APK

P.S.=> Nicest part about Opera is that it originates a LOT of what folks consider cool, as far as browser features, & first (e,g, - tabbed browsing anyone), & it contains features you cannot get in FireFox & IE natively (i.e - without addons (such as site by site choices of whether to run javascript on a website, or not (javascript IS what gets you people all "hit" by these online attacks, 9/10 times (literally, it's the "main delivery mechanism" of MOST online attacks, & sites like SECUNIA.COM or SECURITYFOCUS.COM can show anybody that much, easily))))... apk

See subject-line above - & also, note this report from SECUNIA + benchmarks results which have favored Opera on ALL LEVELS for years (9/10 times):

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Vulnerability Report: Opera 10.x:

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/26745/

Unpatched 0% (0 of 5 Secunia advisories)

----

Download Opera 10.51 FINAL RELEASE, here:

http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/

----

OPERA ALSO SURPASSES FIREFOX IN BROWSING SPEED, at BOTH the javascript processing & HTML processing/parsing speeds levels as well, consistently & for years, no less!

Per latest:

1.) SunSpider tests done here recently -> http://www.pcpro.co.uk/gallery/features/356350/on-test-the-hidden-seven-browsers-in-the-windows-ballot/145087

2.) AND IT HAS BEEN "BLOWING AWAY" FIREFOX IN HTML PARSING/PROCESSING SPEEDS AS WELL, & FOR YEARS NOW, per this test years ago -> http://www.howtocreate.co.uk/browserSpeed.html#win and this one too last year also -> http://crave.cnet.co.uk/software/0,39029471,49302491,00.htm

("Beat that with a stick" as the saying goes!)

APK

P.S.=> Nicest part about Opera is that it originates a LOT of what folks consider cool, as far as browser features, & first (e,g, - tabbed browsing anyone), & it contains features you cannot get in FireFox & IE natively (i.e - without addons (such as site by site choices of whether to run javascript on a website, or not (javascript IS what gets you people all "hit" by these online attacks, 9/10 times (literally, it's the "main delivery mechanism" of MOST online attacks, & sites like SECUNIA.COM or SECURITYFOCUS.COM can show anybody that much, easily))))... apk

See subject-line above - & also, note this report from SECUNIA:

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Vulnerability Report: Opera 10.x:

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/26745/

Unpatched 0% (0 of 5 Secunia advisories)

----

Download Opera 10.51 FINAL RELEASE, here:

http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/

----

OPERA ALSO SURPASSES FIREFOX IN BROWSING SPEED, at BOTH the javascript processing & HTML processing/parsing speeds levels as well, consistently & for years, no less!

Per latest:

1.) SunSpider tests done here recently -> http://www.pcpro.co.uk/gallery/features/356350/on-test-the-hidden-seven-browsers-in-the-windows-ballot/145087

2.) AND IT HAS BEEN "BLOWING AWAY" FIREFOX IN HTML PARSING/PROCESSING SPEEDS AS WELL, & FOR YEARS NOW, per this test years ago -> http://www.howtocreate.co.uk/browserSpeed.html#win and this one too last year also -> http://crave.cnet.co.uk/software/0,39029471,49302491,00.htm

("Beat that with a stick", as the saying goes!)

APK

P.S.=> Nicest part about Opera is that it originates a LOT of what folks consider cool, as far as browser features, & first (e,g, - tabbed browsing anyone), & it contains features you cannot get in FireFox & IE natively (i.e - without addons (such as site by site choices of whether to run javascript on a website, or not (javascript IS what gets you people all "hit" by these online attacks, 9/10 times (literally, it's the "main delivery mechanism" of MOST online attacks, & sites like SECUNIA.COM or SECURITYFOCUS.COM can show anybody that much, easily))))... apk

See subject-line above & also, note this report from SECUNIA:

----

Vulnerability Report: Opera 10.x:

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/26745/

Unpatched 0% (0 of 5 Secunia advisories)

----

Download Opera 10.51 FINAL RELEASE, here:

http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/

----

OPERA ALSO SURPASSES FIREFOX IN BROWSING SPEED, at BOTH the javascript processing & HTML processing/parsing speeds levels as well, consistently & for years, no less!

Per latest:

1.) SunSpider tests done here recently -> http://www.pcpro.co.uk/gallery/features/356350/on-test-the-hidden-seven-browsers-in-the-windows-ballot/145087

2.) AND IT HAS BEEN "BLOWING AWAY" FIREFOX IN HTML PARSING/PROCESSING SPEEDS AS WELL, & FOR YEARS NOW, per this test years ago -> http://www.howtocreate.co.uk/browserSpeed.html#win and this one too last year also -> http://crave.cnet.co.uk/software/0,39029471,49302491,00.htm

("Beat that with a stick", as the saying goes!)

APK

P.S.=> Nicest part about Opera is that it originates a LOT of what folks consider cool, as far as browser features, & first (e,g, - tabbed browsing anyone), & it contains features you cannot get in FireFox & IE natively (i.e - without addons (such as site by site choices of whether to run javascript on a website, or not (javascript IS what gets you people all "hit" by these online attacks, 9/10 times (literally, it's the "main delivery mechanism" of MOST online attacks, & sites like SECUNIA.COM or SECURITYFOCUS.COM can show anybody that much, easily)))... apk

See subject-line above, & also, note this report from SECUNIA:

----

Vulnerability Report: Opera 10.x:

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/26745/

Unpatched 0% (0 of 5 Secunia advisories)

----

Download Opera 10.51 FINAL RELEASE, here:

http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/

----

OPERA ALSO SURPASSES FIREFOX IN BROWSING SPEED, at BOTH the javascript processing & HTML processing/parsing speeds levels as well, consistently & for years, no less!

Per latest:

1.) SunSpider tests done here recently -> http://www.pcpro.co.uk/gallery/features/356350/on-test-the-hidden-seven-browsers-in-the-windows-ballot/145087

2.) AND IT HAS BEEN "BLOWING AWAY" FIREFOX IN HTML PARSING/PROCESSING SPEEDS AS WELL, & FOR YEARS NOW, per this test years ago -> http://www.howtocreate.co.uk/browserSpeed.html#win and this one too last year also -> http://crave.cnet.co.uk/software/0,39029471,49302491,00.htm

("Beat that with a stick", as the saying goes!)

APK

P.S.=> Nicest part about Opera is that it originates a LOT of what folks consider cool, as far as browser features, & first (e,g, - tabbed browsing anyone), & it contains features you cannot get in FireFox & IE natively (i.e - without addons (such as site by site choices of whether to run javascript on a website, or not (javascript IS what gets you people all "hit" by these online attacks, & sites like SECUNIA.COM or SECURITYFOCUS.COM can show anybody that much, easily)))... apk

See subject-line above, & also note this report from SECUNIA:

----

Vulnerability Report: Opera 10.x:

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/26745/

Unpatched 0% (0 of 5 Secunia advisories)

----

Download Opera 10.51 FINAL RELEASE, here:

http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/

----

OPERA ALSO SURPASSES FIREFOX IN BROWSING SPEED, at BOTH the javascript processing & HTML processing/parsing speeds levels as well, consistently & for years (per latest SunSpider tests done here recently -> http://www.pcpro.co.uk/gallery/features/356350/on-test-the-hidden-seven-browsers-in-the-windows-ballot/145087 AND IT HAS BEEN "BLOWING AWAY" FIREFOX IN HTML PARSING/PROCESSING SPEEDS AS WELL, & FOR YEARS NOW, per this test years ago -> http://www.howtocreate.co.uk/browserSpeed.html#win and this one too last year also -> http://crave.cnet.co.uk/software/0,39029471,49302491,00.htm )

APK

P.S.=> Nicest part about Opera is that it originates a LOT of what folks consider cool, as far as browser features, & first (e,g, - tabbed browsing anyone), & it contains features you cannot get in FireFox & IE natively (i.e - without addons (such as site by site choices of whether to run javascript on a website, or not (javascript IS what gets you people all "hit" by these online attacks, & sites like SECUNIA.COM or SECURITYFOCUS.COM can show anybody that much, easily)))... apk

"I've been using Opera for ages. For a long time, it was really the only choice for power users. Every other browser would crash or slow to a crawl when you had more than a few dozen pages open. Back in my Pentium II 200MHz days, I needed 200 pages open to inconvenience Opera." - by by mcvos (645701) on Friday March 19, @09:33AM (#31537132)

Agreed, & same here: I've been using Opera since, oh, Versio 4.x & I love it... here are the reasons why (BETTER SPEED & SECURITY mainly)!

(Also - with a small correction for you to note & see, @ the bottom though):

IF you love speed online (fastest renderer around for webpage data AND scripting too, both YEARS ago -> http://www.howtocreate.co.uk/browserSpeed.html#win , and last year too -> http://crave.cnet.co.uk/software/0,39029471,49302491,00.htm , is Opera 10.5.3315 (AND, also per the SunSpider benchmarks recently done this month no less, passing FireFox AND EVEN GOOGLE CHROME yet again -> http://www.pcpro.co.uk/gallery/features/356350/on-test-the-hidden-seven-browsers-in-the-windows-ballot/145087 (which Opera USUALLY owns javascript processing speeds too, but FF passed them BRIEFLY earlier this year is all, for once, in that area)) AND if you love security too!)

====

SECUNIA WEB BROWSER PROGRAM SECURITY STATS AS OF THIS DATE:

====

Opera 10.x:

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/26745/

Unpatched 0% (0 of 5 Secunia advisories)

----

FireFox 3.6x:

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/28698/

Unpatched 0% (0 of 1 Secunia advisories - FIREFOX does make a good showing here too though... but, they've consistently over time had more than Opera, & more left unpatched too + for longer usually)

----

Internet Explorer 8.x:

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/21625/

Unpatched 44% (4 of 9 Secunia advisories)

====

"Read 'em & weep"...

Opera's CONSISTENTLY free of security vulnerabilities too, year-in & year-out... (or, moreso typically than the other 2 of the "big 3", that is) - and features?

Opera's got features most browsers need "bolted on" addons for, except Opera has them natively (as well as having a widgets addons set for it as well, IF you need that kind of thing (I really do not, it comes with all the features I like such as popup blocking, script blocks or accepts BY SITE (via its various .ini files it has) too & more, far more)... plus, features Opera has, other webbrowsers COPIED (tabbed browsing anyone?), like mad!

"Imitation IS the sincerest form of FLATTERY"... period!

----

"It's still one of the browsers with the smallest memory footprint, although it's not leading by as much as it used to." - by by mcvos (645701) on Friday March 19, @09:33AM (#31537132)

Well, on this note? I have to 'burst your bubble', because according to that last URL on speed above (sunspider javascript tests etc.)? Opera's got a LARGE memory footprint now (but, the more you stay in RAM, the faster you go, period... far faster than diskbound accesses, as I am sure you are aware of) - this was just some "FYI" for you is all (believe you me, I am the LAST GUY that will ever "cut down" Opera, & because of its strengths in online speed, and security too).

APK

P.S.=> So, in the end? For better SPEED online (both HTML/XHTML/XML + javascript processing) AND BETTER OVERALL SECURITY ONLINE? Go Opera... apk

"We code for, and test against, IE 6+, FireFox 2+, Safari 3+, Chrome 4+ and Opera 9+. And it sucks. With all the supposedly intelligent and future thinking people pushing the Internet forward, I am stunned at their inability to comply with W3C standards. Yeah, yeah, W3C documents are the 'drying paint' of the internet, but they are what all browser developers are supposed to be aiming for. I think they all need new glasses. - by WrongSizeGlass (838941) on Friday March 19, @08:55AM (#31536242)

Per my subject-line above then? How about THESE #'s, over time, in the areas of BOTH SPEED & SECURITY?? You spoke of needing glasses??? Take a read, about SECURITY & SPEED (because perhaps you've been drinking from the wrong glass my man, in regards to your statement (I interpreted it as "Opera sucks" actually), & perhaps you omitted reading these (or, you need diff. reading glasses):

IF you love speed online (fastest renderer around for webpage data AND scripting too, both YEARS ago -> http://www.howtocreate.co.uk/browserSpeed.html#win , and last year too -> http://crave.cnet.co.uk/software/0,39029471,49302491,00.htm , is Opera 10.5.3315 (AND, also per the SunSpider benchmarks recently done this month no less, passing FireFox AND EVEN GOOGLE CHROME yet again -> http://www.pcpro.co.uk/gallery/features/356350/on-test-the-hidden-seven-browsers-in-the-windows-ballot/145087 (which Opera USUALLY owns javascript processing speeds too, but FF passed them BRIEFLY earlier this year is all, for once, in that area)) AND if you love security too!)

====

SECUNIA WEB BROWSER PROGRAM SECURITY STATS AS OF THIS DATE:

====

Opera 10.x:

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/26745/

Unpatched 0% (0 of 5 Secunia advisories)

----

FireFox 3.6x:

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/28698/

Unpatched 0% (0 of 1 Secunia advisories - FIREFOX does make a good showing here too though... but, they've consistently over time had more than Opera, & more left unpatched too + for longer usually)

----

Internet Explorer 8.x:

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/21625/

Unpatched 44% (4 of 9 Secunia advisories)

====

"Read 'em & weep"...

Opera's CONSISTENTLY free of security vulnerabilities too, year-in & year-out... (or, moreso typically than the other 2 of the "big 3", that is) - and features?

Opera's got features most browsers need "bolted on" addons for, except Opera has them natively (as well as having a widgets addons set for it as well, IF you need that kind of thing (I really do not, it comes with all the features I like such as popup blocking, script blocks or accepts BY SITE (via its various .ini files it has) too & more, far more)... plus, features Opera has, other webbrowsers COPIED (tabbed browsing anyone?), like mad!

"Imitation IS the sincerest form of FLATTERY"... period!

APK

P.S.=> So, in the end? For better SPEED online (both HTML/XHTML/XML + javascript processing) AND BETTER OVERALL SECURITY ONLINE? Go Opera... apk

"Opera must be doing something right, that all the other browsers are missing." - by Runaway1956 (1322357) on Friday March 19, @09:27AM (#31536984) Homepage

They surely are: ESPECIALLY IN THE AREAS OF BETTER ONLINE SPEED and SECURITY (consistently over time no less - see the url's below for verification no less):

IF you love speed online (fastest renderer around for webpage data AND scripting too, both YEARS ago -> http://www.howtocreate.co.uk/browserSpeed.html#win , and last year too -> http://crave.cnet.co.uk/software/0,39029471,49302491,00.htm , is Opera 10.5.3315 (AND, also per the SunSpider benchmarks recently done this month no less, passing FireFox AND EVEN GOOGLE CHROME yet again -> http://www.pcpro.co.uk/gallery/features/356350/on-test-the-hidden-seven-browsers-in-the-windows-ballot/145087 (which Opera USUALLY owns javascript processing speeds too, but FF passed them BRIEFLY earlier this year is all, for once, in that area)) AND if you love security too!)

====

SECUNIA WEB BROWSER PROGRAM SECURITY STATS AS OF THIS DATE:

====

Opera 10.x:

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/26745/

Unpatched 0% (0 of 5 Secunia advisories)

----

FireFox 3.6x:

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/28698/

Unpatched 0% (0 of 1 Secunia advisories - FIREFOX does make a good showing here too though... but, they've consistently over time had more than Opera, & more left unpatched too + for longer usually)

----

Internet Explorer 8.x:

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/21625/

Unpatched 44% (4 of 9 Secunia advisories)

====

"Read 'em & weep"...

Opera's CONSISTENTLY free of security vulnerabilities too, year-in & year-out... (or, moreso typically than the other 2 of the "big 3", that is) - and features?

Opera's got features most browsers need "bolted on" addons for, except Opera has them natively (as well as having a widgets addons set for it as well, IF you need that kind of thing (I really do not, it comes with all the features I like such as popup blocking, script blocks or accepts BY SITE (via its various .ini files it has) too & more, far more).

APK

P.S.=> So, in the end? For better SPEED online (both HTML/XHTML/XML + javascript processing) AND BETTER OVERALL SECURITY ONLINE? Go Opera... apk

"It's a Big Red O! There's no stopping the Big Red O once it gets rolling." - by residieu (577863) on Friday March 19, @09:11AM (#31536574)

Per my subject-line above then & what I quoted from you? How about THESE #'s, over time, in the areas of BOTH SPEED & SECURITY (not just "the future" either as you stated, but also consistently GREAT showings in the past, for BOTH better SPEED online AND SECURITY TOO)??

IF you love speed online (fastest renderer around for webpage data AND scripting too, both YEARS ago -> http://www.howtocreate.co.uk/browserSpeed.html#win , and last year too -> http://crave.cnet.co.uk/software/0,39029471,49302491,00.htm , is Opera 10.5.3315 (AND, also per the SunSpider benchmarks recently done this month no less, passing FireFox AND EVEN GOOGLE CHROME yet again -> http://www.pcpro.co.uk/gallery/features/356350/on-test-the-hidden-seven-browsers-in-the-windows-ballot/145087 (which Opera USUALLY owns javascript processing speeds too, but FF passed them BRIEFLY earlier this year is all, for once, in that area)) AND if you love security too!)

====

SECUNIA WEB BROWSER PROGRAM SECURITY STATS AS OF THIS DATE:

====

Opera 10.x:

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/26745/

Unpatched 0% (0 of 5 Secunia advisories)

----

FireFox 3.6x:

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/28698/

Unpatched 0% (0 of 1 Secunia advisories - FIREFOX does make a good showing here too though... but, they've consistently over time had more than Opera, & more left unpatched too + for longer usually)

----

Internet Explorer 8.x:

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/21625/

Unpatched 44% (4 of 9 Secunia advisories)

====

"Read 'em & weep"...

Opera's CONSISTENTLY free of security vulnerabilities too, year-in & year-out... (or, moreso typically than the other 2 of the "big 3", that is) - and features?

Opera's got features most browsers need "bolted on" addons for, except Opera has them natively (as well as having a widgets addons set for it as well, IF you need that kind of thing (I really do not, it comes with all the features I like such as popup blocking, script blocks or accepts BY SITE (via its various .ini files it has) too & more, far more).

APK

P.S.=> So, in the end? For better SPEED online (both HTML/XHTML/XML + javascript processing) AND BETTER OVERALL SECURITY ONLINE? Go Opera... apk

"You must be lonely, or only know idiots. Opera has been at the forefront of web technologies and open standards for years. PS. Check market share in Russia." - by Anonymous Coward
on Friday March 19, @08:41AM (#31535938)

Great point, so... how about a couple more (important areas - like SPEED & SECURITY)? Ok, here we go:

IF you love speed online (fastest renderer around for webpage data AND scripting too, both YEARS ago -> http://www.howtocreate.co.uk/browserSpeed.html#win , and last year too -> http://crave.cnet.co.uk/software/0,39029471,49302491,00.htm , is Opera 10.5.3315 (AND, also per the SunSpider benchmarks recently done this month no less, passing FireFox AND EVEN GOOGLE CHROME yet again -> http://www.pcpro.co.uk/gallery/features/356350/on-test-the-hidden-seven-browsers-in-the-windows-ballot/145087 (which Opera USUALLY owns javascript processing speeds too, but FF passed them BRIEFLY earlier this year is all, for once, in that area)) AND if you love security too!)

====

SECUNIA WEB BROWSER PROGRAM SECURITY STATS AS OF THIS DATE:

====

Opera 10.x:

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/26745/

Unpatched 0% (0 of 5 Secunia advisories)

----

FireFox 3.6x:

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/28698/

Unpatched 0% (0 of 1 Secunia advisories - FIREFOX does make a good showing here too though... but, they've consistently over time had more than Opera, & more left unpatched too + for longer usually)

----

Internet Explorer 8.x:

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/21625/

Unpatched 44% (4 of 9 Secunia advisories)

====

"Read 'em & weep"...

Opera's CONSISTENTLY free of security vulnerabilities too, year-in & year-out... (or, moreso typically than the other 2 of the "big 3", that is) - and features?

Opera's got features most browsers need "bolted on" addons for, except Opera has them natively (as well as having a widgets addons set for it as well, IF you need that kind of thing (I really do not, it comes with all the features I like such as popup blocking, script blocks or accepts BY SITE (via its various .ini files it has) too & more, far more).

APK

P.S.=> So, in the end? For better SPEED online (both HTML/XHTML/XML + javascript processing) AND BETTER OVERALL SECURITY ONLINE? Go Opera... apk

"How many of those Polish potentially swayed by the "Opera Turbo technology - speed up your Internet connection" are actually going to -stick to- using Opera, rather than going back to IE or using another browser they might have downloaded through that same choice screen?" - by Animaether (411575) on Friday March 19, @09:06AM (#31536478)

You're speaking to one now - Polish-American here, & here are the reasons WHY I stick to Opera (& have since I discovered it ages ago around version 4.x):

IF you love speed online (fastest renderer around for webpage data AND scripting too, both YEARS ago -> http://www.howtocreate.co.uk/browserSpeed.html#win , and last year too -> http://crave.cnet.co.uk/software/0,39029471,49302491,00.htm , is Opera 10.5.3315 (AND, also per the SunSpider benchmarks recently done this month no less, passing FireFox AND EVEN GOOGLE CHROME yet again -> http://www.pcpro.co.uk/gallery/features/356350/on-test-the-hidden-seven-browsers-in-the-windows-ballot/145087 (which Opera USUALLY owns javascript processing speeds too, but FF passed them BRIEFLY earlier this year is all, for once, in that area)) AND if you love security too!)

====

SECUNIA WEB BROWSER PROGRAM SECURITY STATS AS OF THIS DATE:

====

Opera 10.x:

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/26745/

Unpatched 0% (0 of 5 Secunia advisories)

----

FireFox 3.6x:

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/28698/

Unpatched 0% (0 of 1 Secunia advisories - FIREFOX does make a good showing here too though... but, they've consistently over time had more than Opera, & more left unpatched too + for longer usually)

----

Internet Explorer 8.x:

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/21625/

Unpatched 44% (4 of 9 Secunia advisories)

====

"Read 'em & weep"...

Opera's CONSISTENTLY free of security vulnerabilities too, year-in & year-out... (or, moreso typically than the other 2 of the "big 3", that is) - and features?

Opera's got features most browsers need "bolted on" addons for, except Opera has them natively (as well as having a widgets addons set for it as well, IF you need that kind of thing (I really do not, it comes with all the features I like such as popup blocking, script blocks or accepts BY SITE (via its various .ini files it has) too & more, far more).

APK

P.S.=> So, in the end? For better SPEED online (both HTML/XHTML/XML + javascript processing) AND BETTER OVERALL SECURITY ONLINE? Go Opera... apk

"I'd certainly recommend trying it again - Opera has been continually improved, and it's not really fair to judge it today based on a five year old version." - by mdwh2 (535323)
on Friday March 19, @09:17AM (#31536688)

Per my subject-line above then? I agree, 110%... why?

Well - How about THESE #'s, over time, in the areas of BOTH SPEED & SECURITY?? It's actually quite fair to judge Opera on those areas, especially IF you check the URL's below that have tested Opera in benchmarks for speed (Security ratings are below too):

IF you love speed online (fastest renderer around for webpage data AND scripting too, both YEARS ago -> http://www.howtocreate.co.uk/browserSpeed.html#win , and last year too -> http://crave.cnet.co.uk/software/0,39029471,49302491,00.htm , is Opera 10.5.3315 (AND, also per the SunSpider benchmarks recently done this month no less, passing FireFox AND EVEN GOOGLE CHROME yet again -> http://www.pcpro.co.uk/gallery/features/356350/on-test-the-hidden-seven-browsers-in-the-windows-ballot/145087 (which Opera USUALLY owns javascript processing speeds too, but FF passed them BRIEFLY earlier this year is all, for once, in that area)) AND if you love security too!)

====

SECUNIA WEB BROWSER PROGRAM SECURITY STATS AS OF THIS DATE:

====

Opera 10.x:

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/26745/

Unpatched 0% (0 of 5 Secunia advisories)

----

FireFox 3.6x:

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/28698/

Unpatched 0% (0 of 1 Secunia advisories - FIREFOX does make a good showing here too though... but, they've consistently over time had more than Opera, & more left unpatched too + for longer usually)

----

Internet Explorer 8.x:

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/21625/

Unpatched 44% (4 of 9 Secunia advisories)

====

"Read 'em & weep"...

Opera's CONSISTENTLY free of security vulnerabilities too, year-in & year-out... (or, moreso typically than the other 2 of the "big 3", that is) - and features?

Opera's got features most browsers need "bolted on" addons for, except Opera has them natively (as well as having a widgets addons set for it as well, IF you need that kind of thing (I really do not, it comes with all the features I like such as popup blocking, script blocks or accepts BY SITE (via its various .ini files it has) too & more, far more).

APK

P.S.=> So, in the end? For better SPEED online (both HTML/XHTML/XML + javascript processing) AND BETTER OVERALL SECURITY ONLINE? Go Opera... apk

"These numbers don't mean too much, because at the time the ballot screen was introduced Opera introduced a new version of their browser as well. Probably at least part of the increase is caused by this new version, and not by the ballot screen." - by TSchut (1314115) on Friday March 19, @08:40AM (#31535912)

Per my subject-line above then? How about THESE #'s, over time, in the areas of BOTH SPEED & SECURITY??

IF you love speed online (fastest renderer around for webpage data AND scripting too, both YEARS ago -> http://www.howtocreate.co.uk/browserSpeed.html#win , and last year too -> http://crave.cnet.co.uk/software/0,39029471,49302491,00.htm , is Opera 10.5.3315 (AND, also per the SunSpider benchmarks recently done this month no less, passing FireFox AND EVEN GOOGLE CHROME yet again -> http://www.pcpro.co.uk/gallery/features/356350/on-test-the-hidden-seven-browsers-in-the-windows-ballot/145087 (which Opera USUALLY owns javascript processing speeds too, but FF passed them BRIEFLY earlier this year is all, for once, in that area)) AND if you love security too!)

====

SECUNIA WEB BROWSER PROGRAM SECURITY STATS AS OF THIS DATE:

====

Opera 10.x:

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/26745/

Unpatched 0% (0 of 5 Secunia advisories)

----

FireFox 3.6x:

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/28698/

Unpatched 0% (0 of 1 Secunia advisories - FIREFOX does make a good showing here too though... but, they've consistently over time had more than Opera, & more left unpatched too + for longer usually)

----

Internet Explorer 8.x:

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/21625/

Unpatched 44% (4 of 9 Secunia advisories)

====

"Read 'em & weep"...

Opera's CONSISTENTLY free of security vulnerabilities too, year-in & year-out... (or, moreso typically than the other 2 of the "big 3", that is) - and features?

Opera's got features most browsers need "bolted on" addons for, except Opera has them natively (as well as having a widgets addons set for it as well, IF you need that kind of thing (I really do not, it comes with all the features I like such as popup blocking, script blocks or accepts BY SITE (via its various .ini files it has) too & more, far more).

APK

P.S.=> So, in the end? For better SPEED online (both HTML/XHTML/XML + javascript processing) AND BETTER OVERALL SECURITY ONLINE? Go Opera... apk

"Opera Software did great work lobbying against software patents in the campaigns on the EU software patents directive. Thanks Opera!." - by H4x0r Jim Duggan (757476) on Friday March 19, @08:40AM (#31535908) Homepage

Opera CONSISTENTLY does great @ getting users the BEST SPEED and THE BEST SECURITY RATING (vs. known vulnerabilities) over time also... So, I agree, & say "Thanks Opera" for being consistently the FASTEST & SAFEST WEBBROWSER PROGRAM THERE IS, CONSISTENTLY OVER TIME, Bar-none!

IF you love speed online (fastest renderer around for webpage data AND scripting too, both YEARS ago -> http://www.howtocreate.co.uk/browserSpeed.html#win , and last year too -> http://crave.cnet.co.uk/software/0,39029471,49302491,00.htm , is Opera 10.5.3315 (AND, also per the SunSpider benchmarks recently done this month no less, passing FireFox AND EVEN GOOGLE CHROME yet again -> http://www.pcpro.co.uk/gallery/features/356350/on-test-the-hidden-seven-browsers-in-the-windows-ballot/145087 (which Opera USUALLY owns javascript processing speeds too, but FF passed them BRIEFLY earlier this year is all, for once, in that area)) AND if you love security too!)

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SECUNIA WEB BROWSER PROGRAM SECURITY STATS AS OF THIS DATE:

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Opera 10.x:

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/26745/

Unpatched 0% (0 of 5 Secunia advisories)

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FireFox 3.6x:

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/28698/

Unpatched 0% (0 of 1 Secunia advisories - FIREFOX does make a good showing here too though... but, they've consistently over time had more than Opera, & more left unpatched too + for longer usually)

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Internet Explorer 8.x:

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/21625/

Unpatched 44% (4 of 9 Secunia advisories)

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"Read 'em & weep"...

Opera's CONSISTENTLY free of security vulnerabilities too, year-in & year-out... (or, moreso typically than the other 2 of the "big 3", that is) - and features?

Opera's got features most browsers need "bolted on" addons for, except Opera has them natively (as well as having a widgets addons set for it as well, IF you need that kind of thing (I really do not, it comes with all the features I like such as popup blocking, script blocks or accepts BY SITE (via its various .ini files it has) too & more, far more).

APK

P.S.=> So, in the end? For better SPEED online (both HTML/XHTML/XML + javascript processing) AND BETTER OVERALL SECURITY ONLINE? Go Opera... apk

"I've tried but never really have gotten into Opera on the desktop. However on mobile devices -- dumbphones and smartphones and PDAs -- it's pretty much the only game in town." - by rwa2 (4391) * on Friday March 19, @09:10AM (#31536546) Homepage

Well, then I'd have to say in response to that quote of yours above "Get on it man!", because you'll probably LOVE it...

(That is, IF you love speed online (fastest renderer around for webpage data AND scripting too, is Opera 10.5.3315 (per the SunSpider benchmarks recently done this month no less, passing FireFox AND EVEN GOOGLE CHROME yet again -> http://www.pcpro.co.uk/gallery/features/356350/on-test-the-hidden-seven-browsers-in-the-windows-ballot/145087 (which Opera USUALLY owns javascript processing speeds too, but FF passed them BRIEFLY earlier this year is all, for once, in that area)) AND if you love security too!)

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SECUNIA WEB BROWSER PROGRAM SECURITY STATS AS OF THIS DATE:

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Opera 10.x:

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/26745/

Unpatched 0% (0 of 5 Secunia advisories)

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FireFox 3.6x:

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/28698/

Unpatched 0% (0 of 1 Secunia advisories - FIREFOX does make a good showing here too though... but, they've consistently over time had more than Opera, & more left unpatched too + for longer usually)

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Internet Explorer 8.x:

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/21625/

Unpatched 44% (4 of 9 Secunia advisories)

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"Read 'em & weep"... Opera's CONSISTENTLY free of security vulnerabilities too, year-in & year-out... (or, moreso typically than the other 2 of the "big 3", that is).

APK

P.S.=> So, in the end? For better SPEED online (both HTML/XHTML/XML + javascript processing) AND BETTER OVERALL SECURITY ONLINE? Go Opera... apk

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