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Germany Warns Against Using Firefox
jayme0227 writes "Due to the recent exploit in Firefox, Germany has warned against its use. This comes a couple months after Germany advised against using IE. Perhaps we should start taking odds as to which browser will be next." Note: the warning (from the Federal Office for Information Security) is provisional, and should be rendered moot by the release later this month of 3.6.2.
Yup
3.6.2 is out.
and advise us which browser to use? huh? my taxes are too high.
They dun gone and been outmooted
Firefox 3.6.2 was released earlier tonight: http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/3.6.2/releasenotes/
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As soon as I read about this on /. I realized Firefox is downloading an update to 3.6.2. This is why free software is our best tool against malware. Reaction time can scale with importance. And (shameless free software plug alert) it's why I wrote what's in my sig.
The vulnerability *only* affects the current 3.6 branch. Patch is complete and will be pushed on the 30th of March.
Here is the Mozilla blog entry on the topic:
http://blog.mozilla.com/security/2010/03/18/update-on-secunia-advisory-sa38608
Here is the original bug report:
http://secunia.com/advisories/38608
Ps: can we please get security related articles with some content instead of *OMG, we are all going to die!!* ??
German government warns against use of the internet and software that has bugs.
Software is inevitably going to have bugs in it and try as we might, it's something we'll always have to deal with. There are always mitigation strategies, such as running Firefox in a virtualized environment a la Sandboxie or a full virtual machine, but we'll never be privy to using only bug-free software day to day. I'm glad to see the German government taking an active approach to notifying people in regard to vulnerabilities in an attempt to mitigate them, but as TFA states, what's the point in suggesting users quit using Firefox when the alternatives are potentially just as vulnerable?
The take-away from this is Germans are never happy.
The German government seems to be being quite responsible here. There is an issue with Firefox, and most users probably don't know about it because they don't regularly read tech news sites.
The government is simply trying to keep people informed about this rather important topic, and has done so in a reasonable and proportional way. Not every warning put out is a damning condemnation of flawed security that mandates switching to Lynx you know.
const int one = 65536; (Silvermoon, Texture.cs)
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Well, the Germans, by releasing this warning about the same time the expected Firefox update came out only proves that their eariler recommendation for choosing Firefox was the right one.
I am putting myself to the fullest possible use, which is all I can think that any conscious entity can ever hope to do.
First they came for IE, and I didn't speak up because I didn't use IE.
Then they came for Firefox, and I didn't speak up because I didn't use Firefox.
It rocks. Just sayin.
* against the use of Opera!
* against the use of Chrome!
* against the use of internets!
o hai
Better yet, free software authors (developers) aren't hiding anywhere. It would be hard to contact IE team but Mozilla developers can be reached easily, via mail or even IRC.
Posting this warning while it is easy to figure/ask 3.6.2 is OTW really requires some review by German Govt. For example, did someone from that team have some dinner/launch with some company executive lately?
Surely anyone who is concerned about this vulnerability could simply run one of the nightly builds until the official update is released?
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The article says:
It is only the current version that is affected, but given that prior releases have different vulnerabilities, reverting to an older version of the browser is ill-advised.
However, the older releases page states that 3.5 will receive security updates until August 2010.
So, since 3.5 was not affected by this specific vulnerability, what vulnerabilities are unpatched in the current 3.5 release (3.5.8)?
If the Beeb or the German government knows something Firefox doesn't know, maybe they should tell us so that people still using/shipping (in the case of most linux distros) 3.5 can upgrade to 3.6? Or, if they *don't* know better, maybe they should stick to fact and not conjecture ...
Contrary to Slashdot etiquette, I did read TFA. To me, the most extraordinary piece of news is that the BBC (not quite a geek-oriented news source) makes no mention at all of Firefox being FLOSS. This is excellent news. It means becoming mainstream. The Gandhi quote springs to mind.
If I'm reading this correctly, the vulnerability is in WOFF fonts (what is a WOFF font?) and possibly allows some heap corruption. How do these various "exploits" actually get the Firefox code to execute out of the heap? I.e. one presumably has to either scribble on some known call-back function address in the heap, or somehow scribble on the stack (so Firefox/Seamonkey functions return to the exploit code in the heap) and isn't the data in the heap non-executable (at least under Linux)? I would expect that anyone trying to exploit vulnerabilities such as this would be causing the browser to abort (due to SEGV's or other severe faults) and would drive users away from accessing such pages.
So are these many "exploits" one hears about mostly sound and fury or are there serious risks? [In contrast to say something like an SQL injection attack where a person with reasonable knowledge of SQL could compromise insecure servers.]
mod parent TROLL...
Have you looked at the BSI page and linked mozilla blog page?
The mozilla blog entry was dated March 18th (giving March 30th as the release date for 3.6.2). The BSI advisory was dated March 19th (4 days before the story broke on slashdot; and 4 days before the actual release of 3.6.2).
So, you're saying, it was retaliation by BSI against Firefox, for publishing a release date the firefox crew themselves published the day before?
On March 19th - with the projected release date 11 days away, it seems it was perfectly in order for BSI to recommend use of an alternative for those 11 days:
"empfiehlt das Bürger-CERT die Nutzung alternativer Browser, bis die Mozilla Firefox Version 3.6.2
veröffentlicht ist."
This has nothing to do with fear-mongering - but simply that during a potential danger period, people might want to watch out. Their article clearly stated it only affected 3.6, and their article stated that their advisory is temporary 'until 3.6.2 is released'.
How is that retaliation?
The Government warned today issued a warning against using the internet because of security issues.
The office for Information Security reported the discovery of a major flaw that allows bad people to use the internet too. Citing incidents of users who have already been spammed, scammed, hacked, phished, botted, keylogged and otherwise abused the office has issued a strong recommendation to stop using the web altogether until this vulnerability is patched.
It is as yet unclear whether these exploits will be patched in the pending release of Web 2.1
China just plain doesn't want anyone using the internet.
Never say never. Ah!! I did it again!
Gandhi had a quote with regards to Open Source going mainstream? ...are we talking about the the same Gandhi here? Pastoral Hindu Cotton-loom ascetic Gandhi?
The German government also warned about using Google Chrome when it first came out. I'm not sure what the status on that is right now.
Update the summary. Firefox 3.6.2 is already released and there's no reason to stop using Firefox. Update to latest version and that's it.
Power of free software. :)
Opera. As any fule kno, Germans are really keen on opera. They have some that go on for weeks.
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
Mozilla clearly have no idea about....... ....wait a minute....it's not a Microsoft product we're talking about?!
THIS IS SUCH A NON ISSUE! The German government are clearly over-reacting here.
throw new NoSignatureException();
This is general warning not to use any software that has known and/or unknown bugs in it. This warning goes moot when every known and/or unknown issue is solved.
You don't know what you don't know.
In terms of security, might this be a reason to also allow for automatic downgrades through the software 'update' manager?
if version 3.6 has a big security issue, and no newer version is available, wouldn't it be good if mozilla could similar to how they show an upgrade, also present users with a warning, 'there is a problem in your current 3.6, we would like to temporarily downgrade your browser back to 3.5.x' and with the users agreement automatically downgrade the software again.
Obviously, this would also mean that the update checks would need to have an idea what the latest 'safe' version is, as opposed to the absolute latest version.
Such automation might help to buy authors some time to properly fix an issue.
(Yes, prior version may have security issues of their own - so it's not that I would say always fall back further and further; but if there is a big problem in one version, and prior releases do not have any know major problems, then fall back. Also, for anyone still on 3.5, it would be good if the update check would not even show 3.6 as available, once the authors flag that version is problematic).
The Germans are absolutely right to caution against using various browsers - unplugging is probably safest, though.
Every browser is flawed. It's the internet that is insecure.
Next headline: "German government warns against using the Internet."
We're just crazy, though at least not as crazy as China.
See subject-line above, & also, note this report from SECUNIA:
----
Vulnerability Report: Opera 10.x:
http://secunia.com/advisories/product/26745/
Unpatched 0% (0 of 5 Secunia advisories)
----
Download Opera 10.51 FINAL RELEASE, here:
http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/
----
OPERA ALSO SURPASSES FIREFOX IN BROWSING SPEED, at BOTH the javascript processing & HTML processing/parsing speeds levels as well, consistently & for years, no less!
Per latest:
1.) SunSpider tests done here recently -> http://www.pcpro.co.uk/gallery/features/356350/on-test-the-hidden-seven-browsers-in-the-windows-ballot/145087
2.) AND IT HAS BEEN "BLOWING AWAY" FIREFOX IN HTML PARSING/PROCESSING SPEEDS AS WELL, & FOR YEARS NOW, per this test years ago -> http://www.howtocreate.co.uk/browserSpeed.html#win and this one too last year also -> http://crave.cnet.co.uk/software/0,39029471,49302491,00.htm
("Beat that with a stick", as the saying goes!)
APK
P.S.=> Nicest part about Opera is that it originates a LOT of what folks consider cool, as far as browser features, & first (e,g, - tabbed browsing anyone), & it contains features you cannot get in FireFox & IE natively (i.e - without addons (such as site by site choices of whether to run javascript on a website, or not (javascript IS what gets you people all "hit" by these online attacks, & sites like SECUNIA.COM or SECURITYFOCUS.COM can show anybody that much, easily)))... apk
Rule 34a (or similar numbering).
No such system exists whereby Pr0n cannot be discerned. Bertrand Russell and and Alfred North Whitehead became very upset when Kurt Godel figured that out.
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See subject-line above & also, note this report from SECUNIA:
----
Vulnerability Report: Opera 10.x:
http://secunia.com/advisories/product/26745/
Unpatched 0% (0 of 5 Secunia advisories)
----
Download Opera 10.51 FINAL RELEASE, here:
http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/
----
OPERA ALSO SURPASSES FIREFOX IN BROWSING SPEED, at BOTH the javascript processing & HTML processing/parsing speeds levels as well, consistently & for years, no less!
Per latest:
1.) SunSpider tests done here recently -> http://www.pcpro.co.uk/gallery/features/356350/on-test-the-hidden-seven-browsers-in-the-windows-ballot/145087
2.) AND IT HAS BEEN "BLOWING AWAY" FIREFOX IN HTML PARSING/PROCESSING SPEEDS AS WELL, & FOR YEARS NOW, per this test years ago -> http://www.howtocreate.co.uk/browserSpeed.html#win and this one too last year also -> http://crave.cnet.co.uk/software/0,39029471,49302491,00.htm
("Beat that with a stick", as the saying goes!)
APK
P.S.=> Nicest part about Opera is that it originates a LOT of what folks consider cool, as far as browser features, & first (e,g, - tabbed browsing anyone), & it contains features you cannot get in FireFox & IE natively (i.e - without addons (such as site by site choices of whether to run javascript on a website, or not (javascript IS what gets you people all "hit" by these online attacks, 9/10 times (literally, it's the "main delivery mechanism" of MOST online attacks, & sites like SECUNIA.COM or SECURITYFOCUS.COM can show anybody that much, easily)))... apk
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I'm not asking what is the best way to protect your browsing in theory, but what do people actually *do* to be better protected?
I'm using Debian Linux and I've got a special "/home/temp/" account that I use for "everything besides GMail and my banking website" (banking website being also protected by a security device generating cryptographic tokens).
The Linux firewall itself is configured so that every traffic is disabled by default, and I only allow/whitelist stuff that needs to be allowed.
For example user "temp" is only allow to use ports 80 and 443.
But what do *you* do to browse? Do you use a read-only bootable CD on a "browsing only" computer? Or a VM (I used to have a VM only for IRC, but now I got lazy)
...unchecking "Allow pages to choose their own fonts" block this?
(Or "Stop using Microsoft Windows", but I won't mention that.)
Warning: this article may contain humor, sarcasm, parody, and perhaps even irony. Read at your own risk.
Where is the setting in Opera to change the main toolbar area to something larger with more contrast, etc.? I never can get past the first opening of it, can't read or see what's going on without squinting hard and leaning into the monitor close. Really, it's that bad for me, it's near unusable, just too teeny tiny and the color choices they use look like a blob to me. I'm (mostly) color blind and just can't use it, and I don't see where to change it around in their menu choices. Probably there but haven't found it yet for some reason. TIA if you can point the way. On the desktop (I use Linux) I've never been able to use it, on the phone, though, I love Opera Mini.
So don't use IE, now don't use FF, soon, don't use Opera or Safari, come on, they want no one to use the net, or what?
Seriously, what do they expect, instead of warning to not use them, instead warn how to use them in combination with updates, patches, AV, and firewalls, but that would be a little more effort!
Is there a link to a working exploit ?
> the warning (from the Federal Office for Information Security) is provisional, and should be rendered moot by the release later this month of 3.6.2 ..
This version (3.6) prompted for update and now says verson 3.6.2 ..
The difference is that Firefox has vulnerabilities like any normal application... Internet Explorer on the other hand has been the forefront infection vector for botnets of hundreds of thousands of machines for the past decade.
Right click on any toolbar, & use the CUSTOMIZE popup menu option... for resizing things though? Well, for example, here??
I just grab (for example) the tabs (since Opera had that 1st, mind you) & "stretch" them - that's how I get them to resize & be larger - not sure if the other toolbars allow for that though in Opera.
If what you're looking for is this type of thing, try that (there are loads of options for appearance & tools etc./ et al).
HOWEVER - If this doesn't answer your question? The Opera forums are LOADED with people who know a hell of a lot more about it than I do most likely (in fact, VERY likely - I don't code Opera, I just use it as my default webbrowser, & for the reasons I noted above in my post you replied to. I.E.-> BETTER SPEED in all things "web", & better overall security track-record too)!
APK
P.S.=> LOL, this posting & others I did made me just laugh though (not @ you though - you seem honest enough about your questions) - nearly every post I did was "modded down", & the funniest part is, all I did was inform people about Opera, with verifiable concrete facts (this only makes me realize I am surrounded by a pack of Mozilla/Firefox fanboys - however, the FUNNY part is, is this: I actually LIKE & USE Mozilla FireFox too... it's just that I see Opera CONSISTENTLY beat FF in both speed, and overall security too, typically & for years now (though FF has done a great job lately on keeping up vs. security vulnerabilities, admittedly, especially vs. their track-record in years past))... apk
The article implies that Germany (meaning the government) has issued a warning. However, the BSI (Bundesamt für Sicherheit in der Informationtechnik (engl. Federal Agency for Safety and Security in Information Technology)) warned about an issue in firefox. So the BSI does the same job as CERT, they warn about security issues. It is not that the government made a law or a ruling or any other governmental thing. BTW: The same thing applies to the IE problem. And if there is a problem with Safari or Opera or Lynx or Telnet or any other browser you can think of then they will warn about it.
As Firefox is the most used browser in Germany, it is really important that the BSI warns people about any issue.
(I appologize for any inconvenience due to misuse of prepositions and articles in this post)
Yes, because Opera has never had this sort of vulnerability!
Alexander Peter Kristopeit bought his basement from his mommy for one dollar.
more security exploits, crashes, slow and bloated browsing experiences Firefox users have ot put up with, before they seek out better alternatives like Opera?
Just wondering. Or are those pains part and parcel of supporting American or OpenSource products? You take those problems with it?
Really! Well, here you go then:
Opera 10.50 Security Vulnerability
Of course Opera 10.51 has been released to patch it... just like Firefox 2.6.2 has been released to patch this one.
Alexander Peter Kristopeit bought his basement from his mommy for one dollar.
>Submitted by AmigaMMC on Monday March 22, @11:00PM
How does publication of submission exactly work? I had posted the same article nearly 3 hours before this one and yet it was not picked.
Yup: Like I said in my last post? Opera has superior speed (& loads of tests showed that in my last post you replied to)... hence, why you are posting "old news" (stale/outta date) - it's that LACK OF SPEED FF HAS, especially vs. Opera!
New news! Read on:
"Of course Opera 10.51 has been released to patch it... just like Firefox 2.6.2 has been released to patch this one" - by clone53421 (1310749) on Tuesday March 23, @09:31AM (#31582542)
Oh, THAT's SO "clever"... should I post this too then?
News: Mozilla Plans Fix For Critical Firefox Vulnerability In Next Release:
http://news.slashdot.org/story/10/03/20/1436251/Mozilla-Plans-Fix-For-Critical-Firefox-Vulnerability-In-Next-Release
?
(See, I can "play those games too", & POST OLD NEWS, just like you (mine's a BIT MORE CURRENT THOUGH, eh??))
Still, based on your "reply", I must ask you a question - Are you, like, into "day old bakery goods" too?
(Apparently you are, posting "OLD NEWS"... lol!)
Still, perhaps that is NOT YOUR FAULT (since FF is slower than Opera, proof below):
OPERA ALSO SURPASSES FIREFOX IN BROWSING SPEED, at BOTH the javascript processing & HTML processing/parsing speeds levels as well, consistently & for years, no less!
Per latest:
1.) SunSpider tests done here recently -> http://www.pcpro.co.uk/gallery/features/356350/on-test-the-hidden-seven-browsers-in-the-windows-ballot/145087 [pcpro.co.uk]
2.) AND IT HAS BEEN "BLOWING AWAY" FIREFOX IN HTML PARSING/PROCESSING SPEEDS AS WELL, & FOR YEARS NOW, per this test years ago -> http://www.howtocreate.co.uk/browserSpeed.html#win and this one too last year also -> http://crave.cnet.co.uk/software/0,39029471,49302491,00.htm
("Beat that with a stick", as the saying goes!)
APK
P.S.=> LOL, this posting & others I did made me just laugh though (not @ you though - you seem honest enough about your questions) - nearly every post I did was "modded down", & the funniest part is, all I did was inform people about Opera, with verifiable concrete facts (this only makes me realize I am surrounded by a pack of Mozilla/Firefox fanboys - however, the FUNNY part is, is this: I actually LIKE & USE Mozilla FireFox too... it's just that I see Opera CONSISTENTLY beat FF in both speed, and overall security too, typically & for years now (though FF has done a great job lately on keeping up vs. security vulnerabilities, admittedly, especially vs. their track-record in years past))... apk
The BSI is not the government. It is a federal agency. BSI = Bundesamt für Sicherheit in der Informationstechnik (engl. Federal Agency for safety and security in Information Technology). They are more something like CERT. Even though the US government thinks the BSI is some sort of NSA, because the NSA also does security in information technology (e.g. seLinux). However, the BSI does not spy on people. This is done by another agency. And the BSI is so much the government as it is the police or judges.
Don’t bother. I don’t even read what you post. I barely skim it enough to try to figure out your main point. If I’m not mistaken, you’re saying that my argument is invalid because it is “old news”?
Ah. Well, this is “old news” too. 2.6.2 is out.
And in the future... well, there will always be unpatched vulnerabilities. I doubt that software will ever be perfect... yes, that includes your beloved Opera.
Alexander Peter Kristopeit bought his basement from his mommy for one dollar.
http://news.slashdot.org/story/10/03/20/1436251/Mozilla-Plans-Fix-For-Critical-Firefox-Vulnerability-In-Next-Release
News: Mozilla Plans Fix For Critical Firefox Vulnerability In Next Release:
http://news.slashdot.org/story/10/03/20/1436251/Mozilla-Plans-Fix-For-Critical-Firefox-Vulnerability-In-Next-Release
LMAO!
"Yes, because Opera has never had this sort of vulnerability!" - by clone53421 (1310749) on Tuesday March 23, @09:27AM (#31582488)
Oh, THAT's SO "clever" of you, posting an OLD Opera bug (the one I put up above, it's a "wee bit more current", wouldn't you say? LOL!)...
?
(See, I can "play those games too", & POST OLD NEWS, just like you (mine's a BIT MORE CURRENT THOUGH, eh??))
Still, based on your "reply", I must ask you a question - Are you, like, into "day old bakery goods" too?
(Apparently you are, posting "OLD NEWS"... lol!)
Still, perhaps that is NOT YOUR FAULT, you posting OLD news that is outta date (again - since FF is PROVABLY slower than Opera, proof below):
OPERA ALSO SURPASSES FIREFOX IN BROWSING SPEED, at BOTH the javascript processing & HTML processing/parsing speeds levels as well, consistently & for years, no less!
Per latest:
1.) SunSpider tests done here recently -> http://www.pcpro.co.uk/gallery/features/356350/on-test-the-hidden-seven-browsers-in-the-windows-ballot/145087 [pcpro.co.uk] [pcpro.co.uk]
2.) AND IT HAS BEEN "BLOWING AWAY" FIREFOX IN HTML PARSING/PROCESSING SPEEDS AS WELL, & FOR YEARS NOW, per this test years ago -> http://www.howtocreate.co.uk/browserSpeed.html#win and this one too last year also -> http://crave.cnet.co.uk/software/0,39029471,49302491,00.htm
("Beat that with a stick", as the saying goes!)
APK
P.S.=> LOL, this posting & others I did made me just laugh though - nearly every post I did was "modded down", & the funniest part is, all I did was inform people about Opera, with verifiable concrete facts (this only makes me realize I am surrounded by a pack of Mozilla/Firefox fanboys - however, the FUNNY part is, is this: I actually LIKE & USE Mozilla FireFox too... it's just that I see Opera CONSISTENTLY beat FF in both speed, and overall security too, typically & for years now (though FF has done a great job lately on keeping up vs. security vulnerabilities, admittedly, especially vs. their track-record in years past))... apk
See subject-line above "Clone" & I suggest improving your browsing experience with a webbrowser that has more speed... because you posted VERY OLD NEWS!
Perhaps, again, that's indicative of FF's inferiority in speed online? Hmmm??
Still, based on your "reply", I must ask you a question - Are you, like, into "day old bakery goods" too?
(Apparently you are, posting "OLD NEWS"... lol!)
Still, perhaps that is NOT YOUR FAULT, you posting OLD news that is outta date (again - since FF is PROVABLY slower than Opera, proof below):
OPERA ALSO SURPASSES FIREFOX IN BROWSING SPEED, at BOTH the javascript processing & HTML processing/parsing speeds levels as well, consistently & for years, no less!
Per latest:
1.) SunSpider tests done here recently -> http://www.pcpro.co.uk/gallery/features/356350/on-test-the-hidden-seven-browsers-in-the-windows-ballot/145087 [pcpro.co.uk] [pcpro.co.uk]
2.) AND IT HAS BEEN "BLOWING AWAY" FIREFOX IN HTML PARSING/PROCESSING SPEEDS AS WELL, & FOR YEARS NOW, per this test years ago -> http://www.howtocreate.co.uk/browserSpeed.html#win and this one too last year also -> http://crave.cnet.co.uk/software/0,39029471,49302491,00.htm
("Beat that with a stick", as the saying goes!)
APK
P.S.=> LOL, this posting & others I did made me just laugh though - nearly every post I did was "modded down", & the funniest part is, all I did was inform people about Opera, with verifiable concrete facts (this only makes me realize I am surrounded by a pack of Mozilla/Firefox fanboys - however, the FUNNY part is, is this: I actually LIKE & USE Mozilla FireFox too... it's just that I see Opera CONSISTENTLY beat FF in both speed, and overall security too, typically & for years now (though FF has done a great job lately on keeping up vs. security vulnerabilities, admittedly, especially vs. their track-record in years past))... apk
"Why indeed. Why are you trolling Firefox for an old, patched vulnerability?" - by clone53421 (1310749) on Tuesday March 23, @09:54AM (#31582908)
Funny: Didn't YOU DO THAT VERY THING, first? See URL below, your 1st reply once more:
http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1591778&cid=31582542
Then again, I just did what you did, AFTER you did it: I posted the link to FF's bug is all (bit more current of a bug than Opera's though, eh? Funny you avoid that, AND SPEED tests too, eh?? LMAO!)
LIKE I SAID:
Apparently, you need a browser with SUPERIOR SPEED ONLINE (as Opera undoubtedly has, on "all things web", per proofs in tests below), because you're posting OLD, STALE, OUTTA DATE NEWS (must be that "sheer speed" FF has eh? Well, funny, these tests from years past AND CURRENTLY, seem to show Opera as the "speed king"... not FF! Read 'em & weep):
OPERA ALSO SURPASSES FIREFOX IN BROWSING SPEED, at BOTH the javascript processing & HTML processing/parsing speeds levels as well, consistently & for years, no less!
Per latest:
1.) SunSpider tests done here recently -> http://www.pcpro.co.uk/gallery/features/356350/on-test-the-hidden-seven-browsers-in-the-windows-ballot/145087 [pcpro.co.uk]
2.) AND IT HAS BEEN "BLOWING AWAY" FIREFOX IN HTML PARSING/PROCESSING SPEEDS AS WELL, & FOR YEARS NOW, per this test years ago -> http://www.howtocreate.co.uk/browserSpeed.html#win [howtocreate.co.uk] and this one too last year also -> http://crave.cnet.co.uk/software/0,39029471,49302491,00.htm [cnet.co.uk]
("Beat that with a stick", as the saying goes!)
APK
P.S.=> Nicest part about Opera is that it originates a LOT of what folks consider cool, as far as browser features, & first (e,g, - tabbed browsing anyone), & it contains features you cannot get in FireFox & IE natively (i.e - without addons (such as site by site choices of whether to run javascript on a website, or not (javascript IS what gets you people all "hit" by these online attacks, 9/10 times (literally, it's the "main delivery mechanism" of MOST online attacks, & sites like SECUNIA.COM or SECURITYFOCUS.COM can show anybody that much, easily))))... apk
"Other than the reason of you being an idiot, but that goes without saying." - by clone53421 (1310749) on Tuesday March 23, @09:54AM (#31582908)
Ah, toss all the names you want to - that's just a sign you are losing badly... & again - get yourself a browser with some more speed (it'll help you NOT POST OLD STALE NEWS, lol, like you did in that 1st URL above)... apk
Germany warns against using internet.
-- QED
Offtopic. I didn’t even read it.
Alexander Peter Kristopeit bought his basement from his mommy for one dollar.
OPERA ALSO SURPASSES FIREFOX IN BROWSING SPEED, at BOTH the javascript processing & HTML processing/parsing speeds levels as well, consistently & for years, no less!
Per these evidences recently & over time also:
1.) SunSpider tests done here recently -> http://www.pcpro.co.uk/gallery/features/356350/on-test-the-hidden-seven-browsers-in-the-windows-ballot/145087
2.) AND IT HAS BEEN "BLOWING AWAY" FIREFOX IN HTML PARSING/PROCESSING SPEEDS AS WELL, & FOR YEARS NOW, per this test years ago -> http://www.howtocreate.co.uk/browserSpeed.html#win and this one too last year also -> http://crave.cnet.co.uk/software/0,39029471,49302491,00.htm
("Beat that with a stick" - as the saying goes!)
So, like I stated in the other posting where YOU are attempting to troll me (with your STALE FACTS, doubtless due to FF's "Superior online speed" (lol, not))? Show me more current tests where FF's speed online is better than FF's, & I'll eat my words. Good luck... you can't come up with that data, AND YOU KNOW IT (lol).
APK
P.S.=> Nicest part about Opera is that it originates a LOT of what folks consider cool, as far as browser features, & first (e,g, - tabbed browsing anyone), & it contains features you cannot get in FireFox & IE natively (i.e - without addons (such as site by site choices of whether to run javascript on a website, or not (javascript IS what gets you people all "hit" by these online attacks, 9/10 times (literally, it's the "main delivery mechanism" of MOST online attacks, & sites like SECUNIA.COM or SECURITYFOCUS.COM can show anybody that much, easily))))... apk
Why? We were talking about security, not speed. Stop changing the subject.
Alexander Peter Kristopeit bought his basement from his mommy for one dollar.
Oh, "somehow", lol, I think you did
Yes, you caught me. I read the ALL CAPS LINE AT THE VERY BEGINNING OF YOUR COMMENT. That is all. It took me, perhaps 2 seconds. Just like it did to “read” 1 or 2 sentences from this latest post of yours.
Alexander Peter Kristopeit bought his basement from his mommy for one dollar.
Just sayin'.
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I'm not a lawyer, but I play one on the Internet. Blog
See subject-line above clone... & "better luck next time" I suppose!
Still - I am going to be FAIR about this:
You also seem to omit the fact I actually LIKE FF (& I repeatedly said that too) - heck, I even helped the Mozilla team out of a jam/bug over @ NTCompatible.com years ago (forums owner built his own forums engine, pretty impressive actually (well, his own "front" to building it @ least)).
I just think you did not like being caught "flat footed" on speed is all... fair enough though - NOBODY likes that, not even I. Still, look @ it as learning more is all!
MY information, currently, just prevails, for now, is all!
(HOWEVER? I shouldn't do this, but... for a SMALL BIT there this year? FF did pass OPERA, for once, in speed (javascript processing ONLY though)... Just so you know that, & that I am FAIR about what I write is all - it's just that Opera typically ROCKS THEM ALL for both least security vulnerabilities over time, and, certainly for speed!).
APK
P.S.=> My speed information just happens to be more current is all... & yes, TYPICAL for Opera on speed too, over the years (per the numerous benchmarks I put out, & I could put up a LOT MORE TOO, but enough was enough, on all accounts, on my part... as far as evidences over time) - still, I do LOVE how you FF "fanboys" go nuts whenever I post up things that show Opera's superiority in both SPEED and SECURITY online... lol! apk
When did I admit that?
All I admitted is that I don’t read the vast majority of the drivel you post.
Alexander Peter Kristopeit bought his basement from his mommy for one dollar.
Your comments are actually starting to look readable. I like it. The paragraphs are still a little bit small, though. You could work on it.
Alexander Peter Kristopeit bought his basement from his mommy for one dollar.
See subject-line, & think about it...
Clone - you've GOT to be "better than that" man!
(Seriously - because, anyone, & I MEAN ANYONE, can "critique" another's writing style, easily)...
Then again, I ask those that do "writing style critiques" this VERY SIMPLE QUESTION:
Care to show us your PHD in English in your name, in order to prove that you are a valid critic of the writing of others?
Clue - this is only a webforums. Not a paper in academia for a grade, nor is it a legal correspondence either...
(Oh, & by the way? Is there an "English Grammar/Writing style forums" here?? I know not... guess that makes you resort to being "off topic", completely no less! )
(Here I was thinking you'd be a challenge too... oh well!)
APK
P.S.=> It's THAT EASY to resort to what you did - however, by the same token? Well, it's even EASIER for me to ask that question above too... "too, Too, TOO EASY" in fact! apk
Offtopic? You started it by bringing up Opera’s speed to troll an article about security.
Alexander Peter Kristopeit bought his basement from his mommy for one dollar.
"All I admitted is that I don't read the vast majority of the drivel you post." - by clone53421 (1310749) on Tuesday March 23, @11:15AM (#31584078)
OK: See subject-line, & then? THEN, take a "refresher" of this data below then for you, short & sweet (data):
1.) SunSpider tests done here recently -> http://www.pcpro.co.uk/gallery/features/356350/on-test-the-hidden-seven-browsers-in-the-windows-ballot/145087 [pcpro.co.uk]
2.) AND IT HAS BEEN "BLOWING AWAY" FIREFOX IN HTML PARSING/PROCESSING SPEEDS AS WELL, & FOR YEARS NOW, per this test years ago -> http://www.howtocreate.co.uk/browserSpeed.html#win [howtocreate.co.uk] and this one too last year also -> http://crave.cnet.co.uk/software/0,39029471,49302491,00.htm [cnet.co.uk]
("Beat that with a stick" - as the saying goes!)
APK
P.S.=> Clone, the use of drivel being directed my way? Come on man - THAT doesn't impress me (or other readers), as its only an 'evasive maneuver' on your part, vs. easily verified concrete current AND PAST data on Opera's superiority in speed is all... better luck next time, eh? apk
See subject-line, & answer it clone (and by the by - you are STILL avoiding my speed superiority evidences Opera has over FF, mind you... lol! Gee 'Why is that?' - "inquiring minds want to know")
By the way, here was my 1st post again:
http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1591778&cid=31581460
(Do I not note security things there? Answer that please!)
Now - The speed part (which you, lol, "conveniently avoid")?
Well - that was just "added data" (albeit, you loathe the fact it's in favor of Opera is all - oh well, lol!)).
APK
P.S.=>
"Offtopic? You started it by bringing up Opera's speed to troll an article about security." - by clone53421 (1310749) on Tuesday March 23, @11:30AM (#31584324)
As I suspected: No PHD in English to your name to make you a valid critic of others writing style - as you attempted vs. myself only to be easily shown as QUITE the unqualified critic on that note... nor is there an English Grammar/English writing style forums here either (lol). I gotta say it, as-per-usual vs. trolls who try THAT tack 'too, Too, TOO EASY!'.
You're short of evidence again man... whereas myself? Well... see my others posts where Opera's speed advantage is CLEARLY shown, on all fronts/things "web"! apk
No, no PHD in English, but I do have As in several college writing classes under my belt.
Anyway, it doesn’t take a PHD to tell that your writing style is hideous. I’d rank it almost “ass end of a baboon”. Nowhere near “goatse”, though... you have a long way to go, young whippersnapper.
Alexander Peter Kristopeit bought his basement from his mommy for one dollar.
See subject-line, & tell everyone here WHY you are avoiding what I posted here then, about which is the faster "Superior Warrior" online as far as webbrowser programs in speed then:
http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1591778&cid=31583334
Like I said before: You show me MORE CURRENT DATA that shows FF being faster than Opera (or, more secure for that matter)? I'll eat my words (& GLADLY - but, unlike yourself? I will grow & learn by then, instead of BLATANTLY AVOIDING TRUTHS as you have been)
APK
P.S.=> What a shame, lol: Here I was thinking that ole' CLONE here would be a "superior FF fanboy troll" but, alas & as-per-usual?? Ah, disappointed again with Clone's rather "trollish" evasions... & all I asked for? Is what I ask for above in bold... no takers? Of course not! LOL... man - "too, Too, TOO EASY", as usual! akp
"No, no PHD in English, but I do have As in several college writing classes under my belt." - by clone53421 (1310749) on Tuesday March 23, @11:50AM (#31584628)
Nice, however - I happen to be in possession of a COUPLE OF DEGREES from colleges (one b.s., another one going towards a b.s. in another discipline as we speak today in fact (A.A.S. part is done, now credits-wise 92++ or so towards the 120 required in fact (taking my time here though, it costs, as well you know apparently) & BOTH are sciences).
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"Anyway, it doesn't take a PHD to tell that your writing style is hideous." - by clone53421 (1310749) on Tuesday March 23, @11:50AM (#31584628)
"So sayeth the writing expert", minus a PHD (and doubtless minus the 2.5 degrees I have too)...
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"I'd rank it almost "ass end of a baboon". Nowhere near "goatse", though... you have a long way to go, young whippersnapper." - by clone53421 (1310749) on Tuesday March 23, @11:50AM (#31584628)
Well, I'm 45 yrs. old man... how about you? Additionally - I certainly don't avoid questions, & I supply valid data too... you evade mine, to no end by comparison (lol) & your use of PROFANITIES? Please - that's only indicative of your frustration (which you bring on yourself by avoiding my question below)... see below:
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Still - opinions vary on "writing style" & you're no PHD in English so (and neither is this the "writing critique section" of /., lol, either).
SO, tell us won't you (enough evasions man) - what's the "Superior Warrior" online for speed? Opera or FireFox??
EVIDENCES THEREOF TO THAT EFFECT WHICH I HAVE GLADLY WELCOMED YOU TO DISPROVE AND TO FIND MORE CURRENT DATA THAN THIS TO CONTRADICT MY FAVORING OPERA:
1.) SunSpider tests done here recently -> http://www.pcpro.co.uk/gallery/features/356350/on-test-the-hidden-seven-browsers-in-the-windows-ballot/145087 [pcpro.co.uk]
2.) AND IT HAS BEEN "BLOWING AWAY" FIREFOX IN HTML PARSING/PROCESSING SPEEDS AS WELL, & FOR YEARS NOW, per this test years ago -> http://www.howtocreate.co.uk/browserSpeed.html#win [howtocreate.co.uk] and this one too last year also -> http://crave.cnet.co.uk/software/0,39029471,49302491,00.htm [cnet.co.uk]
("Beat that with a stick" - as the saying goes!)
So, like I stated in the other posting where YOU are attempting to troll me (with your STALE FACTS, doubtless due to FF's "Superior online speed" (lol, not))? Show me more current tests where FF's speed online is better than FF's, & I'll eat my words.
Good luck... you can't come up with that data, AND YOU KNOW IT (lol).
APK
P.S.=> Ah heck... this is just "too, Too, TOO EASY!", as per usual! Let me tell you all this - it is amusing to me, to NO END, to watch "fanboys" SQUIRM & have to go off topic, lol... hiliarious: A moment of TRULY "high comedy" for me (I hope it is for you all reading as well)... sorry it comes @ your expense clone, you're a bit nicer than most fanboy trolls @ least, I'll give you that! apk
Do you actually think I read any of that? Why do you bother?
Alexander Peter Kristopeit bought his basement from his mommy for one dollar.
LMAO - see the above, & it's too bad you had "to eat your words" (about the academia stuff, & about "young whippersnapper" too - as well as you evading my question of which browser is faster: OPERA or FIREFOX), yet again man... so, once more?
"Better luck next time"... & "too, Too, TOO EASY!!!"
APK
P.S.=> "too easy"... lol! apk
The known bugs being at zero looks good, but so does his speed data. It's strange all the firefox fanbois avoid that speed part though. I've got to give him that. He has you all running on that one, and all you'd have to do is admit he is correct on Opera being faster than Firefox is all. I read that data, here it is quoted again for your reference:
OPERA ALSO SURPASSES FIREFOX IN BROWSING SPEED, at BOTH the javascript processing & HTML processing/parsing speeds levels as well, consistently & for years, no less!
1.) SunSpider tests done here recently -> http://www.pcpro.co.uk/gallery/features/356350/on-test-the-hidden-seven-browsers-in-the-windows-ballot/145087
2.) AND IT HAS BEEN "BLOWING AWAY" FIREFOX IN HTML PARSING/PROCESSING SPEEDS AS WELL, & FOR YEARS NOW, per this test years ago -> http://www.howtocreate.co.uk/browserSpeed.html#win and this one too last year also -> http://crave.cnet.co.uk/software/0,39029471,49302491,00.htm
Modding him down for posting verifiable facts though guys? Poor showing fellas. Opera is a decent browser, for both speed and security, and verfiable reliable tests show it.
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"It's the wrong article. Post an article about Opera's superior speed and we can discuss it to your heart's content." - by clone53421 (1310749) on Tuesday March 23, @12:12PM (#31584938)
Clone, please... that's your WORST "Evasion" yet man!
Ahem, lol: The data is in that URL next, just as I said it was..., read it again:
http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1591778&cid=31583334
(You really do NOT read, do you? I suggest you get "hooked on phonics" man, because I did put up verifiable data in that link above).
BUT, since you asked? Here you are, yet again:
1.) SunSpider tests done here recently -> http://www.pcpro.co.uk/gallery/features/356350/on-test-the-hidden-seven-browsers-in-the-windows-ballot/145087 [pcpro.co.uk]
2.) AND IT HAS BEEN "BLOWING AWAY" FIREFOX IN HTML PARSING/PROCESSING SPEEDS AS WELL, & FOR YEARS NOW, per this test years ago -> http://www.howtocreate.co.uk/browserSpeed.html#win and this one too last year also -> http://crave.cnet.co.uk/software/0,39029471,49302491,00.htm
(Want more? Just ask...)
APK
P.S.=> I'm going to be FAIR AGAIN about this & tell you some facts: I've been tracking Opera vs. FF for years now (call it a hobby, as I like them both) & I have a WEALTH of such data, over time as well as current (ala that 1st & 2nd set of URLs above)... apk
1994, BookLink Technologies featured tabbed windows in its InternetWorks browser. That same year, a text editor called UltraEdit also appeared with a modern multi-row tabbed interface. The tabbed interface approach was then followed by the Internet Explorer shell NetCaptor in 1997. These were followed by a number of others like IBrowse in 1999, and Opera in 2000 (with the release of version 4)
The first tabbed web browser came out 6 years before opera put it in.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tabbed_document_interface
It is not possible to write a modern browser that is completely bug free and completely lacking in security holes. It sure is nice to wish that someone did make such a browser, but since browsers are written by human beings, I'll settle for browsers that are reasonably secure, reasonably bug-free, and frequently patched instead of complaining that none of them are perfect. Of course, if the post we're all responding to was made in jest, it was damned funny.
I don't think I've ever seen a browser zealot until now. You are like a religious fanatic. Seek help.
Again - it's all about "software that was correctly written and had no exploits to begin with." Speed isn't the issue.
Yes - Opera is speedy. It's a fine browser. Do consider it. But consider it for the right reasons. What was that? "Ask & ye shall receive?" Make sure the answers you're getting even apply to the questions you asked, much less the right questions.
And a fine showing, APK. Once again, you're missing the point and using all manner of hand-waving to avoid having to face the fact.
That's my real question. FF was fixed in a month. Was IE fixed and how long did it take?
I'll try that out this evening, appreciate the reply.
The reason "nearly every post" you make are "modded down" (I don't know why I'm putting that in quotes, other than because you did) is because even when you do (accidentally?) have a valid point to make, you're still trolling.
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Yes, I should have read the actual post to notice the dates, but making that mistake hardly makes me a "troll."
You are quite foolish to underestimate the influence of Microsoft. I'm suggesting that, as soon as the vulnerability in Firefox surfaced, the BSI came under an enormous amount of pressure from Microsoft (and all of its thousands of tiny front groups) to be "fair" and post this anti-Firefox FUD right away. Had they bothered contacting Mozilla themselves, instead of just reading the blog post, they might have been made aware that the release was imminent. Hell, even if the release wasn't ready, Mozilla might have even pushed a minor update simply to fix this one issue instead of having this bad press get out there...
Given that browsers, or your email client, is only "vulnerable" when the user opens something they shouldn't (in the case of email) or browses to a malicious site, why don't they just friggin tell people that? Tell them to BE CAREFUL and what to watch out for, ie. *educate them* instead of "omg Windows/Linux has a security hole, quick turn your PC off now!"
Then again, point me to a government that doesn't treat their citizens like idiots and would prefer them to be so.
I only posted facts about a faster browser that typically shows less exploits over time is all... what exactly is "wrong" with that? Oh, I know - "fanboy angst". Personally, I think it's dumb because they ALL work, it's just that Opera consistently shows it is faster, & generally safer, over time is all.
APK
P.S.=> By the way - the day you can show us all a fairly complex program that NEVER has shown a single bug, or update? Well... then, you can talk (personally? I don't think said program exists, & I don't mean "HELLO WORLD" type programs either)... apk
Angry? You're a POOR judge of another's emotional state - I got a GIGANTIC LAUGH out of this debate with you actually!
"Nah. You are still, as likely as not, an angry 12-year-old in his mother's basement." by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 23, @01:07PM (#31585886)
LOL, is THAT the "best you've got"? Talk about "irrelevant"... you've been trying to 'get my goat' with b.s. like that here the entire time, & the more you do? The more I get a laugh out of your 'desperate antics/tactics' is all... mainly because it's the SURE SIGN of defeat in debate.
"Your claims otherwise are wholly irrelevant." by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 23, @01:07PM (#31585886)
Funny how you AVOID admitting that Opera's MUCH FASTER, on all fronts "web", though eh?
APK
See subject-line, & realize 1 thing: I merely posted concrete & verifiable FACTS with backing test data & more... this is all.
APK
P.S.=> The "FF fanboys" can't handle what I wrote, so, all I got was evasions, mod downs, name calling & others puny tactics... which made me laugh hugely actually! apk
"Nah, he's an equal-opportunity troll. He "likes firefox", remember? - by clone53421 (1310749) on Tuesday March 23, @01:32PM (#31586288)
Actually, I am: Go ask the FF team who pointed out & helped them with a "bug" over on the NTCompatible.com forums, ok? Guess who that was - ME.
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"He trolls whoever, whenever, whatever. His problem is severe OCD, not browser zealotry. (Did you know he keeps track of all of his Anonymous Coward posts that have been modded up?)"
Please: Show us your PHD in psychiatry, & the formal analysis you performed on me (and that you are licensed to practice that art/science), ok? Above all else - IF this is the "best you've got"?? Well... lol!
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"Still, it's kind of entertaining to bait him." - by clone53421 (1310749) on Tuesday March 23, @01:32PM (#31586288)
You're not baiting me in the slightest, after all - ALL I DID, was post concrete & verifiable facts via test data & other documentations that show Opera is secure vs. known security vulnerabilities and faster than FF on all things "web"... that's all!
(It's not MY fault if you don't LIKE IT, or cannot handle truths.)
APK
Nice information (I was aware of it though) - What I was attempting to illustrate, was that FF & IE BOTH copied that feature from Opera is all (they had it later added on etc., ALBEIT, AFTER OPERA) - I never said Opera was the first one to do so though, only of the "big 3" browsers... so, please note that much.
Thanks!
APK
No, no, not at all. You accused me of eating my words. I never did any such thing.
Alexander Peter Kristopeit bought his basement from his mommy for one dollar.
If they don't recommend all (2) of the major browsers, what browsers are they using / do they recommend?
Pray tell?
This sounds like FUD to stay off the internet.
Then, why have you avoided my simple request of showing me that FireFox is faster than Opera then, if you are not evading my requests or questions? Like I have repeatedly asked of you: Show me a CURRENT TEST (more recent than the one I used, especially on the SunSpider test) that shows FireFox outpacing/outperforming Opera in both javascript processing AND std. HTML parsing-processing as well... that's all.
APK
P.S.=> Good luck - you'll NEED it... apk
See subject-line above, & it figures: Another "/. wannabe sidewalk psychologist" + "/. sidewalk English prof."... lol!
APK
P.S.=> You sure aren't much on providing evidences, nor are you very good @ accomplishing the things you need to obtain since you apparently show some interest in those areas (albeit you lack the professional accreditation & degrees + licenses for either being an English Professor OR a practicing license psychiatrist)... & besides: Especially on the psych part? You would need to perform a formal testing to determine it anyways, & on myself... have you? No... poor showing clone, seriously, lol! apk
Whatever, Kimmo.
Alexander Peter Kristopeit bought his basement from his mommy for one dollar.
See subject-line above, & then the URL's to valid tests (old, middle aged, & NEW no less) that illustrate Opera's superiority in speed in all things "web" - I really thought you were better than that, but... oh well, apparently not (it's lies, or you cannot read & are illiterate, or you skim + miss things):
"Because you have avoided my simple request to submit a related article so we can discuss it." - by clone53421 (1310749) on Wednesday March 24, @04:05PM (#31602712)
I've been REPEATEDLY pasting these in @ your request to examine... & good luck "discussing" or debating facts they illustrate (that Opera's just PLAIN-JANE FASTER in all things "web"):
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1.) SunSpider tests done here recently -> http://www.pcpro.co.uk/gallery/features/356350/on-test-the-hidden-seven-browsers-in-the-windows-ballot/145087 [pcpro.co.uk]
2.) AND IT HAS BEEN "BLOWING AWAY" FIREFOX IN HTML PARSING/PROCESSING SPEEDS AS WELL, & FOR YEARS NOW, per this test years ago -> http://www.howtocreate.co.uk/browserSpeed.html#win
3.) And this one too last year also -> http://crave.cnet.co.uk/software/0,39029471,49302491,00.htm
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And here are a few more, just for "good measure" that I know of (I make a "pet project/hobby" of this in fact, call it a personal interest, so I can decide which web-browser is truly, "the SUPERIOR WARRIOR" out here is all):
http://nontroppo.org/timer/kestrel_tests/
and
http://tech.slashdot.org/story/09/08/08/1750241/Opera-Dominates-CNET-Survey-of-Underdog-Web-Browsers
(Want more?)
Opera kicked butt in those tests, overall, bigtime & especially in Speed (& iirc, on passing the ACID tests too as well) - I really wouldn't say it, if I wasn't pretty SURE it was the case... & besides, Opera's WIDELY KNOWN & often called "the fastest browser there is" as well as having the most features natively built in too (without the bloat & lag + possible errors addons often introduce into webbrowsers).
APK
P.S.=> I even tried to WARN YOU that I had this type of data "stacked up & ready" for that type of thing, but no... now? Now you are apparently REDUCED TO LYING (it's that, or you skim like hell or are illiterate)... thus, - I wonder, which of the 3 is the case here?)
See subject-line, & these articles, charts, & tests below (that show Opera's superior speed in all things "web"):
"I said AN ARTICLE, not OFFTOPIC COMMENTS." - by clone53421 (1310749) on Wednesday March 24, @04:38PM (#31603222)
These are all charts, tests, articles... or, are you blind (or just being silly)?
1.) SunSpider tests done here recently -> http://www.pcpro.co.uk/gallery/features/356350/on-test-the-hidden-seven-browsers-in-the-windows-ballot/145087
2.) AND IT HAS BEEN "BLOWING AWAY" FIREFOX IN HTML PARSING/PROCESSING SPEEDS AS WELL, & FOR YEARS NOW, per this test years ago -> http://www.howtocreate.co.uk/browserSpeed.html#win
3.) And this one too last year also -> http://crave.cnet.co.uk/software/0,39029471,49302491,00.htm
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And here are a few more, just for "good measure" that I know of (I make a "pet project/hobby" of this in fact, call it a personal interest, so I can decide which web-browser is truly, "the SUPERIOR WARRIOR" out here is all):
http://nontroppo.org/timer/kestrel_tests/
and
http://tech.slashdot.org/story/09/08/08/1750241/Opera-Dominates-CNET-Survey-of-Underdog-Web-Browsers
(Want more?)
APK
P.S.=> Clone, you've really given a SERIOUSLY weak showing here... apk
The problem is that your facts are irrelevant. The thread was talking about zero defects. You reply with an example that has a history of defects. Instead of earning up to this fact, you're trying to call attention away with name-calling and off-topic statements. Little surprise - it's what you do.
"The problem is that your facts are irrelevant." - by _Sprocket_ (42527) on Wednesday March 24, @10:18PM (#31606602)
Opera = faster than ANY browser & ZERO/0 security vulnerabilities, + the largest set of in-built native features of the "big 3" webbrowsers? Well...
See subject line, & "nuff said"...
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"The thread was talking about zero defects. You reply with an example that has a history of defects" - by _Sprocket_ (42527) on Wednesday March 24, @10:18PM (#31606602)
Show me a complex program that hasn't that's exposed to the internet & javascript especially online... AND, I also point to Opera, with ZERO/0 current security vulnerabilities known for it too!
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"Instead of earning up to this fact" - by _Sprocket_ (42527) on Wednesday March 24, @10:18PM (#31606602)
What is wrong with pointing out to others that OPERA'S THE FASTEST & SAFEST BROWSER OUT THERE I ask you? LOL... I'll tell you what: FireFox fanboyism on your part imo!
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"Little surprise - it's what you do." - by _Sprocket_ (42527) on Wednesday March 24, @10:18PM (#31606602)
You mean telling others about the FASTEST & SAFEST WEB-BROWSER PROGRAM OUT THERE WITH THE MOST NATIVE FEATURES IN OPERA 10.51?
(YOU BET!)
APK
P.S.=> Fanboys of Firefox - always trying to minimize that Opera's got them outperformed, and is more secure! apk
"I couldn't have made my point any better myself. You quote me about your irrelevant wandering and then you reply with irrelevant wandering. 'Nuff said indeed!" - by _Sprocket_ (42527) on Thursday March 25, @12:56AM (#31607340)
What is irrelavant (or wrong) about telling people that Opera's been shown, time & again, that OPERA IS THE FASTEST & SAFEST WEB-BROWSER PROGRAM THERE IS WITH THE LARGEST NATIVE FEATURESET BUILT-IN NATIVELY THERE IS?
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"The fun thing here is that you didn't talk about how difficult it is to create complex systems without defects." - by _Sprocket_ (42527) on Thursday March 25, @12:56AM (#31607340)
Now wait a second: Didn't I say "HELLO WORLD" level programs 'need not apply' etc. et al? Sure I did, right here -> http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1591778&cid=31599332...
Sprocket? Who screwed up here now?? You did!
(You've done that before & you're skimmning man (or, lying, take your pick))!
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"You put Opera up as an example. And Operas has a history of defects. Yes - currently there's no unpatched vulnerabilities. That we know about. But there's a history of defects. And that hardly makes Opera the slam-dunk answer you make it out to be." - by _Sprocket_ (42527) on Thursday March 25, @12:56AM (#31607340)
OPERA CURRENTLY SHOWING ZERO SECURITY VULNERABILIES, AND OPERA BEING THE FASTEST BROWSER ON ALL THINGS WEB (plus having the largest & best NATIVELY BUILT IN FEATURESET) DOES A HECK OF A JOB FOR ME (or anyone really), in extolling Opera's virtues as probably the best overall webbrowser on this planet.
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"You're caught clueless again, apk. And you can't avoid it." - by _Sprocket_ (42527) on Thursday March 25, @12:56AM (#31607340)
Now look whose tossing names - Pot calling the kettle black? Now, on "clueless"?? Sprocket, as far as this art & science is concerned, the day you can do all this in this field to YOUR CREDIT (as I have):
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"My Name is Ozymandias: King of Kings - Look upon my works, ye mighty, & DESPAIR..."
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Windows NT Magazine (now Windows IT Pro) April 1997 "BACK OFFICE PERFORMANCE" issue, page 61
(&, for work done for EEC Systems/SuperSpeed.com on PAID CONTRACT (writing portions of their SuperCache program increasing its performance by up to 40% via my work) albeit, for their SuperDisk & HOW TO APPLY IT, took them to a finalist position @ MS Tech Ed, two years in a row 2000-2002, in its HARDEST CATEGORY: SQLServer Performance Enhancement).
WINDOWS MAGAZINE, 1997, "Top Freeware & Shareware of the Year" issue page 210, #1/first entry in fact (my work is there)
PC-WELT FEB 1998 - page 84, again, my work is featured there
WINDOWS MAGAZINE, WINTER 1998 - page 92, insert section, MUST HAVE WARES, my work is again, there
PC-WELT FEB 1999 - page 83, again, my work is featured there
CHIP Magazine 7/99 - page 100, my work is there
GERMAN PC BOOK, Data Becker publisher "PC Aufrusten und Repairen" 2000, where my work is contained in it
HOT SHAREWARE Numero 46 issue, pg. 54 (PC ware mag from Spain), 2001 my work is there, first one featured, yet again!
Also, a British PC Mag in 2002 for many utilities I wrote, saw it @ BORDERS BOOKS but didn't buy it... by that point, I had moved onto other areas in this field besides coding only...
Lastly, being paid for an article that made me money over @ PCPitstop in 2008 for writing up a guide that has people showing NO VIRUSES/SPYWARES & other screwups, via following its point, such as THRONKA sees here -> htt
"Whatever, Kimmo." - by clone53421 (1310749) on Wednesday March 24, @04:26PM (#31603046)
Well, for whatever THAT means: It's good to see that you have finally given up... facts & truths usually do that to fanboys, with ease (just as I used them here to do that, to you).
(Ah, yes - "another one 'bites the dust'", & "too, Too, TOO EASILY", lol...)
APK
P.S.=> Some nerve on Clone's part though - resorting to "the oldest troll trick in the book" on his part, in attempting to critique my writing (despite it makes he off topic and he lacks a PHD in English no less to qualify he to do so as well) & then name tossing + attempting to offer his "sidewalk psychologist of /." so-called 'prognosis' of my mental state (again, his lacking a PHD in psychiatry, a license to practice in it & above all else, a formal diagnosis based on testing done to me on his part also)?? Poor showing there, Clone... too poor! apk
Per my subject-line above, & these articles + their tests (which you "conveniently avoid", lmao ("gee, I wonder why" - 'inquiring minds want to know", lol))? Such things already have shown & PROVEN OPERA IS THE FASTEST & SAFEST WEBBROWSER PROGRAM ON THE FACE OF THIS PLANET CURRENTLY & IN THE PAST TOO CONSISTENTLY, + WITH THE LARGEST NATIVE FEATURESET BUILT-IN NATIVELY... again, for your reference:
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1.) SunSpider tests done here recently -> http://www.pcpro.co.uk/gallery/features/356350/on-test-the-hidden-seven-browsers-in-the-windows-ballot/145087
2.) AND IT HAS BEEN "BLOWING AWAY" FIREFOX IN HTML PARSING/PROCESSING SPEEDS AS WELL, & FOR YEARS NOW, per this test years ago -> http://www.howtocreate.co.uk/browserSpeed.html#win
3.) And this one too last year also -> http://crave.cnet.co.uk/software/0,39029471,49302491,00.htm
4.) Same here -> http://nontroppo.org/timer/kestrel_tests/
5.) Yet again/once more? Same story -> http://tech.slashdot.org/story/09/08/08/1750241/Opera-Dominates-CNET-Survey-of-Underdog-Web-Browsers
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(Want more?)
Clone, please - You wno't even acknowledge those legitimate articles, tests, charts & more... lol, again: "Gee, I wonder why?" - because "inquiring minds want to know", lol... ('too, Too, TOO EASY!!!")
APK
P.S.=> Once more, on the subject of checking on which browsers are the FASTEST & SAFEST? Well - again, I make a sort of, well, "pet project/hobby" of this in fact, call it a personal interest, (so I can decide which web-browser is truly, "the SUPERIOR WARRIOR" out here is all): Clone, you've really given a SERIOUSLY weak showing here... apk
"You know perfectly well what it means, LOL." - by clone53421 (1310749) on Thursday March 25, @08:26AM (#31609030)
Actually, no, I do not... wtf, lol, is "kimmo"?
After all, you said THAT (whatever the heck it means or is), here:
"Whatever, Kimmo" - by clone53421 (1310749) on Wednesday March 24, @04:26PM (#31603046) Journal
?
WTF??
APK
P.S.=> I honestly have never heard that term before... is it like, some new form of "ebonics" or something (like a non-English language term)?
LOL, or are YOU attempting to invent some new term on your own??
I mean, hey - You come in here, trolling me, & you also do so in name tossing & dispense your English writing critiques directed my way (oldest troll trick in the book, lol) minus a PHD in English on YOUR PART/to your name-credit!
(To top that off, then, lmao... Then, lmao... you attempted to offer your "expert prognosis" on my mental state, again lacking a PHD on your part/to your name-credit in psychology as well (plus your lacking a license to practice that, or your having performed a formal diagnostic on myself in order to do so as well))
Please - give us a break, ok?
Get over your OCD (or whatever it is), & accept you have been shown as just another troll beaten by facts...
Facts that showed via valid tests, charts, & yes, articles showing anyone reading them that time & again, OPERA HAS BEEN SHOWN TO BE THE SAFEST & FASTEST BROWSER THERE IS, WITH THE LARGEST NATIVE FEATURESET BUILT RIGHT IN, NATIVELY ALSO... here they are again, for your reference:
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1.) SunSpider tests done here recently -> http://www.pcpro.co.uk/gallery/features/356350/on-test-the-hidden-seven-browsers-in-the-windows-ballot/145087
2.) AND IT HAS BEEN "BLOWING AWAY" FIREFOX IN HTML PARSING/PROCESSING SPEEDS AS WELL, & FOR YEARS NOW, per this test years ago -> http://www.howtocreate.co.uk/browserSpeed.html#win
3.) And this one too last year also -> http://crave.cnet.co.uk/software/0,39029471,49302491,00.htm
4.) Same here -> http://nontroppo.org/timer/kestrel_tests/
5.) Yet again/once more? Same story -> http://tech.slashdot.org/story/09/08/08/1750241/Opera-Dominates-CNET-Survey-of-Underdog-Web-Browsers
----
(Want more?)
Clone, please - You wno't even acknowledge those legitimate articles, tests, charts & more... lol, again: "Gee, I wonder why?" - because "inquiring minds want to know", lol... ('too, Too, TOO EASY!!!")
LOL, man - It is TRULY hilarious in you continuously saying I didn't post any valid information backing that claim on my part, when I repeatedly have (poor showing Mr. Troll)... & of course?
"too, Too, TOO EASY!!!"... apk
Still the avoidance, still the denial. You are a sad case. I even gave you a link.
Alexander Peter Kristopeit bought his basement from his mommy for one dollar.
Per my subject-line above, well "mod me down" all you like but... facts? ARE FACTS!
So, that "all said & aside", well - we have Yet more "icing on the cake" (per valid test evidences from respected websites of BOTH Opera's superior SPEED & SECURITY ONLINE for all things "web"):
====
CURRENT DATA:
A.) For SECURITY (& Opera led there for the LONGEST TIME, yes, even in least security vulnerabilities found over time, typically of the "big 3" webbrowsers)):
1.) iPhone, IE, Firefox, Safari get stomped at hacker contest -> (No Opera noted though) http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/03/25/pwn2own_2010_day_one/
B.) For SPEED (& Opera leads again there, & CONSISTENTLY + for the LONGEST TIME, yes, even in javascript for the LONGEST time, until FF's new engines took its place TEMPRARILY (until Opera 10.50 @ least, because that's gotten a decent "boost" in that area -> http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/12/22/1911216 (not that it matters though, speeding up javascript is like asking to get infected by malscripted sites &/or adbanners faster imo @ least - that of a "POV" of PC security, mostly)):
2.) SunSpider tests done here recently -> http://www.pcpro.co.uk/gallery/features/356350/on-test-the-hidden-seven-browsers-in-the-windows-ballot/145087 WHERE OPERA REGAINS ITS JAVASCRIPT PROCESSING SPEED LEAD OVER FF YET AGAIN!
AND, for SECURITY also (less vulnerabilities present over time than IE or FF, per SECUNIA.COM stats):
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OPERA 10.x VULNERABILITIES STATS:(01/21/2010)
http://secunia.com/advisories/product/26745/?task=statistics
(UNPATCHED = 0% )
There are no unpatched Secunia advisories affecting this product, when all vendor patches are applied..
-----
OLDER DATA (on performance alone):
3.) And this one too last year also -> http://crave.cnet.co.uk/software/0,39029471,49302491,00.htm [cnet.co.uk]
4.) AND IT HAS BEEN "BLOWING AWAY" FIREFOX IN HTML PARSING/PROCESSING SPEEDS AS WELL, & FOR YEARS NOW, per this test years ago -> http://www.howtocreate.co.uk/browserSpeed.html#win [howtocreate.co.uk]
5.) Same here -> http://nontroppo.org/timer/kestrel_tests/ [nontroppo.org]
6.) Yet again/once more? Same story -> http://tech.slashdot.org/story/09/08/08/1750241/Opera-Dominates-CNET-Survey-of-Underdog-Web-Browsers [slashdot.org]
====
AND, WHAT DOES A "HACKER/CRACKER"-SECURITY RESEARCHER TYPE CURRENTLY SAY, ABOUT OPERA (per Opera's showing in #1 above (which is, literally, "hot-off-the-press", from yesterday's news no less))?
OK:
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"The problem Microsoft has is they have a big market share, said Vreugdenhil, the hacker who attacked IE. "I use Opera, but that's basically because it has a tiny market share and as far as I know, nobody is really interested in creating a drive-by download for opera. The web at the moment is pretty scary, actually."
----
Hence, again showing that even the "hacker/cracker" types use Opera, because it's safer to do so, & from the mindset of those DOING THE HACKING/CRACKING no less!
(Opera "rocked the planet" in those cases... bigtime (& ESPECIALLY ON THE MOST USED PLATFORM THERE IS, BAR-NONE, FOR PC-COMPUTING: Windows!))
People, face it - MOD ME DOWN, ALL YO
Per my subject-line above, well "mod me down" all you like but... facts? ARE FACTS!
So, that "all said & aside", well - we have Yet more "icing on the cake" (per valid test evidences from respected websites of BOTH Opera's superior SPEED & SECURITY ONLINE for all things "web"):
====
CURRENT DATA:
A.) For SECURITY (& Opera leads there for the LONGEST TIME, yes, even in least security vulnerabilities found over time, typically of the "big 3" webbrowsers)):
1.) iPhone, IE, Firefox, Safari get stomped at hacker contest -> (No Opera noted as "hosed" though, lol) http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/03/25/pwn2own_2010_day_one/
B.) For SPEED (& Opera leads again there, & CONSISTENTLY + for the LONGEST TIME, yes, even in javascript for the LONGEST time, until FF's new engines took its place TEMPRARILY (until Opera 10.50 @ least, because that's gotten a decent "boost" in that area -> http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/12/22/1911216 (not that it matters though, speeding up javascript is like asking to get infected by malscripted sites &/or adbanners faster imo @ least - that of a "POV" of PC security, mostly)):
2.) SunSpider tests done here recently -> http://www.pcpro.co.uk/gallery/features/356350/on-test-the-hidden-seven-browsers-in-the-windows-ballot/145087 WHERE OPERA REGAINS ITS JAVASCRIPT PROCESSING SPEED LEAD OVER FF YET AGAIN!
AND, for SECURITY also (less vulnerabilities present over time than IE or FF, per SECUNIA.COM stats):
----
OPERA 10.x VULNERABILITIES STATS:(01/21/2010)
http://secunia.com/advisories/product/26745/?task=statistics
(UNPATCHED = 0% )
There are no unpatched Secunia advisories affecting this product, when all vendor patches are applied..
-----
OLDER DATA (on performance alone):
3.) And this one too last year also -> http://crave.cnet.co.uk/software/0,39029471,49302491,00.htm [cnet.co.uk]
4.) AND IT HAS BEEN "BLOWING AWAY" FIREFOX IN HTML PARSING/PROCESSING SPEEDS AS WELL, & FOR YEARS NOW, per this test years ago -> http://www.howtocreate.co.uk/browserSpeed.html#win [howtocreate.co.uk]
5.) Same here -> http://nontroppo.org/timer/kestrel_tests/ [nontroppo.org]
6.) Yet again/once more? Same story -> http://tech.slashdot.org/story/09/08/08/1750241/Opera-Dominates-CNET-Survey-of-Underdog-Web-Browsers [slashdot.org]
====
AND, WHAT DOES A "HACKER/CRACKER"-SECURITY RESEARCHER TYPE CURRENTLY SAY, ABOUT OPERA (per Opera's showing in #1 above (which is, literally, "hot-off-the-press", from yesterday's news no less))?
OK:
----
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/03/25/pwn2own_2010_day_one/
"The problem Microsoft has is they have a big market share, said Vreugdenhil, the hacker who attacked IE. "I use Opera, but that's basically because it has a tiny market share and as far as I know, nobody is really interested in creating a drive-by download for opera. The web at the moment is pretty scary, actually."
----
Hence, again showing that even the "hacker/cracker" types use Opera, because it's safer to do so, & from the mindset of those DOING THE HACKING/CRACKING no less!
(Opera "rocked the planet"
Per my subject-line above, well "mod me down" all you like but... facts? ARE FACTS!
So, that "all said & aside", well - we have Yet more "icing on the cake" (per valid test evidences from respected websites of BOTH Opera's superior SPEED & SECURITY ONLINE for all things "web"):
====
CURRENT DATA:
A.) For SECURITY (& Opera leads there for the LONGEST TIME, yes, even in least security vulnerabilities found over time, typically of the "big 3" webbrowsers)):
1.) iPhone, IE, Firefox, Safari get stomped at hacker contest -> (No Opera noted as "hosed" though, lol) http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/03/25/pwn2own_2010_day_one/
B.) For SPEED (& Opera leads again there, & CONSISTENTLY + for the LONGEST TIME, yes, even in javascript for the LONGEST time, until FF's new engines took its place TEMPRARILY (until Opera 10.50 @ least, because that's gotten a decent "boost" in that area -> http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/12/22/1911216 (not that it matters though, speeding up javascript is like asking to get infected by malscripted sites &/or adbanners faster imo @ least - that of a "POV" of PC security, mostly)):
2.) SunSpider tests done here recently -> http://www.pcpro.co.uk/gallery/features/356350/on-test-the-hidden-seven-browsers-in-the-windows-ballot/145087 WHERE OPERA REGAINS ITS JAVASCRIPT PROCESSING SPEED LEAD OVER FF YET AGAIN!
AND, for SECURITY also (less vulnerabilities present over time than IE or FF, per SECUNIA.COM stats):
----
OPERA 10.x VULNERABILITIES STATS:(01/21/2010)
http://secunia.com/advisories/product/26745/?task=statistics
(UNPATCHED = 0% )
There are no unpatched Secunia advisories affecting this product, when all vendor patches are applied..
-----
OLDER DATA (on performance alone):
3.) And this one too last year also -> http://crave.cnet.co.uk/software/0,39029471,49302491,00.htm [cnet.co.uk]
4.) AND IT HAS BEEN "BLOWING AWAY" FIREFOX IN HTML PARSING/PROCESSING SPEEDS AS WELL, & FOR YEARS NOW, per this test years ago -> http://www.howtocreate.co.uk/browserSpeed.html#win [howtocreate.co.uk]
5.) Same here -> http://nontroppo.org/timer/kestrel_tests/ [nontroppo.org]
6.) Yet again/once more? Same story -> http://tech.slashdot.org/story/09/08/08/1750241/Opera-Dominates-CNET-Survey-of-Underdog-Web-Browsers [slashdot.org]
====
AND, WHAT DOES A "HACKER/CRACKER"-SECURITY RESEARCHER TYPE CURRENTLY SAY, ABOUT OPERA (per Opera's showing in #1 above (which is, literally, "hot-off-the-press", from yesterday's news no less))?
OK:
----
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/03/25/pwn2own_2010_day_one/
"The problem Microsoft has is they have a big market share, said Vreugdenhil, the hacker who attacked IE. "I use Opera, but that's basically because it has a tiny market share and as far as I know, nobody is really interested in creating a drive-by download for opera. The web at the moment is pretty scary, actually."
----
Hence, again showing that even the "hacker/cracker" types use Opera, because it's safer to do so, & from the mindset of those DOING THE HACKING/CRACKING no less!
(Opera "rocked the planet"
Per my subject-line above, well "mod me down" all you like but... facts? ARE FACTS!
So, that "all said & aside", well - we have Yet more "icing on the cake" (per valid test evidences from respected websites of BOTH Opera's superior SPEED & SECURITY ONLINE for all things "web"):
====
CURRENT DATA:
A.) For SECURITY (& Opera leads there for the LONGEST TIME, yes, even in least security vulnerabilities found over time, typically of the "big 3" webbrowsers)):
1.) iPhone, IE, Firefox, Safari get stomped at hacker contest -> (No Opera noted as "hosed" though, lol) http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/03/25/pwn2own_2010_day_one/
B.) For SPEED (& Opera leads again there, & CONSISTENTLY + for the LONGEST TIME, yes, even in javascript for the LONGEST time, until FF's new engines took its place TEMPRARILY (until Opera 10.50 @ least, because that's gotten a decent "boost" in that area -> http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/12/22/1911216 (not that it matters though, speeding up javascript is like asking to get infected by malscripted sites &/or adbanners faster imo @ least - that of a "POV" of PC security, mostly)):
2.) SunSpider tests done here recently -> http://www.pcpro.co.uk/gallery/features/356350/on-test-the-hidden-seven-browsers-in-the-windows-ballot/145087 WHERE OPERA REGAINS ITS JAVASCRIPT PROCESSING SPEED LEAD OVER FF YET AGAIN!
AND, for SECURITY also (less vulnerabilities present over time than IE or FF, per SECUNIA.COM stats):
----
OPERA 10.x VULNERABILITIES STATS:(01/21/2010)
http://secunia.com/advisories/product/26745/?task=statistics
(UNPATCHED = 0% )
There are no unpatched Secunia advisories affecting this product, when all vendor patches are applied..
-----
OLDER DATA (on performance alone):
3.) And this one too last year also -> http://crave.cnet.co.uk/software/0,39029471,49302491,00.htm [cnet.co.uk]
4.) AND IT HAS BEEN "BLOWING AWAY" FIREFOX IN HTML PARSING/PROCESSING SPEEDS AS WELL, & FOR YEARS NOW, per this test years ago -> http://www.howtocreate.co.uk/browserSpeed.html#win [howtocreate.co.uk]
5.) Same here -> http://nontroppo.org/timer/kestrel_tests/ [nontroppo.org]
6.) Yet again/once more? Same story -> http://tech.slashdot.org/story/09/08/08/1750241/Opera-Dominates-CNET-Survey-of-Underdog-Web-Browsers [slashdot.org]
====
AND, WHAT DOES A "HACKER/CRACKER"-SECURITY RESEARCHER TYPE CURRENTLY SAY, ABOUT OPERA (per Opera's showing in #1 above (which is, literally, "hot-off-the-press", from yesterday's news no less))?
OK:
----
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/03/25/pwn2own_2010_day_one/
"The problem Microsoft has is they have a big market share, said Vreugdenhil, the hacker who attacked IE. "I use Opera, but that's basically because it has a tiny market share and as far as I know, nobody is really interested in creating a drive-by download for opera. The web at the moment is pretty scary, actually."
----
Hence, again showing that even the "hacker/cracker" types use Opera, because it's safer to do so, & from the mindset of those DOING THE HACKING/CRACKING no less!
(Opera "rocked the planet"
Per my subject-line above, well "mod me down" all you like but... facts? ARE FACTS!
So, that "all said & aside", well - we have Yet more "icing on the cake" (per valid test evidences from respected websites of BOTH Opera's superior SPEED & SECURITY ONLINE for all things "web"):
====
CURRENT DATA:
A.) For SECURITY (& Opera leads there for the LONGEST TIME, yes, even in least security vulnerabilities found over time, typically of the "big 3" webbrowsers)):
1.) iPhone, IE, Firefox, Safari get stomped at hacker contest -> (No Opera noted as "hosed" though, lol) http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/03/25/pwn2own_2010_day_one/
B.) For SPEED (& Opera leads again there, & CONSISTENTLY + for the LONGEST TIME, yes, even in javascript for the LONGEST time, until FF's new engines took its place TEMPRARILY (until Opera 10.50 @ least, because that's gotten a decent "boost" in that area -> http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/12/22/1911216 (not that it matters though, speeding up javascript is like asking to get infected by malscripted sites &/or adbanners faster imo @ least - that of a "POV" of PC security, mostly)):
2.) SunSpider tests done here recently -> http://www.pcpro.co.uk/gallery/features/356350/on-test-the-hidden-seven-browsers-in-the-windows-ballot/145087 WHERE OPERA REGAINS ITS JAVASCRIPT PROCESSING SPEED LEAD OVER FF YET AGAIN!
AND, for SECURITY also (less vulnerabilities present over time than IE or FF, per SECUNIA.COM stats):
----
OPERA 10.x VULNERABILITIES STATS:(01/21/2010)
http://secunia.com/advisories/product/26745/?task=statistics
(UNPATCHED = 0% )
There are no unpatched Secunia advisories affecting this product, when all vendor patches are applied..
-----
OLDER DATA (on performance alone):
3.) And this one too last year also -> http://crave.cnet.co.uk/software/0,39029471,49302491,00.htm [cnet.co.uk]
4.) AND IT HAS BEEN "BLOWING AWAY" FIREFOX IN HTML PARSING/PROCESSING SPEEDS AS WELL, & FOR YEARS NOW, per this test years ago -> http://www.howtocreate.co.uk/browserSpeed.html#win [howtocreate.co.uk]
5.) Same here -> http://nontroppo.org/timer/kestrel_tests/ [nontroppo.org]
6.) Yet again/once more? Same story -> http://tech.slashdot.org/story/09/08/08/1750241/Opera-Dominates-CNET-Survey-of-Underdog-Web-Browsers [slashdot.org]
====
AND, WHAT DOES A "HACKER/CRACKER"-SECURITY RESEARCHER TYPE CURRENTLY SAY, ABOUT OPERA (per Opera's showing in #1 above (which is, literally, "hot-off-the-press", from yesterday's news no less))?
OK:
----
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/03/25/pwn2own_2010_day_one/
"The problem Microsoft has is they have a big market share, said Vreugdenhil, the hacker who attacked IE. "I use Opera, but that's basically because it has a tiny market share and as far as I know, nobody is really interested in creating a drive-by download for opera. The web at the moment is pretty scary, actually."
----
Hence, again showing that even the "hacker/cracker" types use Opera, because it's safer to do so, & from the mindset of those DOING THE HACKING/CRACKING no less!
(Opera "rocked the planet"
Per my subject-line above, see below... facts? ARE FACTS!
So, that "all said & aside", well - we have yet more "icing on the cake" (per valid test evidences from respected websites of BOTH Opera's superior SPEED & SECURITY ONLINE for all things "web"):
====
CURRENT DATA:
A.) For SECURITY (& Opera leads there for the LONGEST TIME, yes, even in least security vulnerabilities found over time, typically of the "big 3" webbrowsers)):
1.) iPhone, IE, Firefox, Safari get stomped at hacker contest -> (No Opera noted as "hosed" though, lol) http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/03/25/pwn2own_2010_day_one/
B.) For SPEED (& Opera leads again there, & CONSISTENTLY + for the LONGEST TIME, yes, even in javascript for the LONGEST time, until FF's new engines took its place TEMPRARILY (until Opera 10.50 @ least, because that's gotten a decent "boost" in that area -> http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/12/22/1911216 (not that it matters though, speeding up javascript is like asking to get infected by malscripted sites &/or adbanners faster imo @ least - that of a "POV" of PC security, mostly)):
2.) SunSpider tests done here recently -> http://www.pcpro.co.uk/gallery/features/356350/on-test-the-hidden-seven-browsers-in-the-windows-ballot/145087 WHERE OPERA REGAINS ITS JAVASCRIPT PROCESSING SPEED LEAD OVER FF YET AGAIN!
AND, for SECURITY also (less vulnerabilities present over time than IE or FF, per SECUNIA.COM stats):
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OPERA 10.x VULNERABILITIES STATS:(01/21/2010)
http://secunia.com/advisories/product/26745/?task=statistics
(UNPATCHED = 0% )
There are no unpatched Secunia advisories affecting this product, when all vendor patches are applied..
-----
OLDER DATA (on performance alone):
3.) And this one too last year also -> http://crave.cnet.co.uk/software/0,39029471,49302491,00.htm [cnet.co.uk]
4.) AND IT HAS BEEN "BLOWING AWAY" FIREFOX IN HTML PARSING/PROCESSING SPEEDS AS WELL, & FOR YEARS NOW, per this test years ago -> http://www.howtocreate.co.uk/browserSpeed.html#win [howtocreate.co.uk]
5.) Same here -> http://nontroppo.org/timer/kestrel_tests/ [nontroppo.org]
6.) Yet again/once more? Same story -> http://tech.slashdot.org/story/09/08/08/1750241/Opera-Dominates-CNET-Survey-of-Underdog-Web-Browsers [slashdot.org]
====
AND, WHAT DOES A "HACKER/CRACKER"-SECURITY RESEARCHER TYPE CURRENTLY SAY, ABOUT OPERA (per Opera's showing in #1 above (which is, literally, "hot-off-the-press", from yesterday's news no less))?
OK:
----
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/03/25/pwn2own_2010_day_one/
"The problem Microsoft has is they have a big market share, said Vreugdenhil, the hacker who attacked IE. "I use Opera, but that's basically because it has a tiny market share and as far as I know, nobody is really interested in creating a drive-by download for opera. The web at the moment is pretty scary, actually."
----
Hence, again showing that even the "hacker/cracker" types use Opera, because it's safer to do so, & from the mindset of those DOING THE HACKING/CRACKING no less!
(Opera "rocked the planet" in those cases... bigtime
Per my subject-line above, see below... facts? ARE FACTS!
So, that "all said & aside", well - we have Yet more "icing on the cake" (per valid test evidences from respected websites of BOTH Opera's superior SPEED & SECURITY ONLINE for all things "web"):
====
CURRENT DATA:
A.) For SECURITY (& Opera leads there for the LONGEST TIME, yes, even in least security vulnerabilities found over time, typically of the "big 3" webbrowsers):
1.) iPhone, IE, Firefox, Safari get stomped at hacker contest -> (No Opera noted as "hosed" though, lol) http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/03/25/pwn2own_2010_day_one/
B.) For SPEED (& Opera leads again there, & CONSISTENTLY + for the LONGEST TIME, yes, even in javascript for the LONGEST time, until FF's new engines took its place TEMPRARILY (until Opera 10.50 @ least, because that's gotten a decent "boost" in that area -> http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/12/22/1911216 (not that it matters though, speeding up javascript is like asking to get infected by malscripted sites &/or adbanners faster imo @ least - that of a "POV" of PC security, mostly)):
2.) SunSpider tests done here recently -> http://www.pcpro.co.uk/gallery/features/356350/on-test-the-hidden-seven-browsers-in-the-windows-ballot/145087 WHERE OPERA REGAINS ITS JAVASCRIPT PROCESSING SPEED LEAD OVER FF YET AGAIN!
AND, for SECURITY also (less vulnerabilities present over time than IE or FF, per SECUNIA.COM stats):
----
OPERA 10.x VULNERABILITIES STATS:(01/21/2010)
http://secunia.com/advisories/product/26745/?task=statistics
(UNPATCHED = 0% )
There are no unpatched Secunia advisories affecting this product, when all vendor patches are applied..
-----
OLDER DATA (on performance alone):
3.) And this one too last year also -> http://crave.cnet.co.uk/software/0,39029471,49302491,00.htm [cnet.co.uk]
4.) AND IT HAS BEEN "BLOWING AWAY" FIREFOX IN HTML PARSING/PROCESSING SPEEDS AS WELL, & FOR YEARS NOW, per this test years ago -> http://www.howtocreate.co.uk/browserSpeed.html#win [howtocreate.co.uk]
5.) Same here -> http://nontroppo.org/timer/kestrel_tests/ [nontroppo.org]
6.) Yet again/once more? Same story -> http://tech.slashdot.org/story/09/08/08/1750241/Opera-Dominates-CNET-Survey-of-Underdog-Web-Browsers [slashdot.org]
====
AND, WHAT DOES A "HACKER/CRACKER"-SECURITY RESEARCHER TYPE CURRENTLY SAY, ABOUT OPERA (per Opera's showing in #1 above (which is, literally, "hot-off-the-press", from yesterday's news no less))?
OK:
----
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/03/25/pwn2own_2010_day_one/
"The problem Microsoft has is they have a big market share, said Vreugdenhil, the hacker who attacked IE. "I use Opera, but that's basically because it has a tiny market share and as far as I know, nobody is really interested in creating a drive-by download for opera. The web at the moment is pretty scary, actually."
----
Hence, again showing that even the "hacker/cracker" types use Opera, because it's safer to do so, & from the mindset of those DOING THE HACKING/CRACKING no less!
(Opera "rocked the planet" in those cases... bi
"Still the avoidance, still the denial." - by clone53421 (1310749) on Thursday March 25, @09:36AM (#31609728)
Clone, please: ALL I HAVE ASKED OF YOU IS TO SHOW US THAT OPERA IS SLOWER THAN FIREFOX & WITH MORE CURRENT DATA THAN I PROVIDE BELOW (you avoid this, to no end, because there is NO SUCH DATA, lol)... give us a break. You have turned into a SERIOUS disappointment that cannot let go, or admit when he cannot disprove something.
Per my subject-line above, well "mod me down" etc./et al, & all you like but... facts? ARE FACTS!
So, that "all said & aside", well - we have Yet more "icing on the cake" (per valid test evidences from respected websites of BOTH Opera's superior SPEED & SECURITY ONLINE for all things "web"):
====
CURRENT DATA:
A.) For SECURITY (& Opera leads there for the LONGEST TIME, yes, even in least security vulnerabilities found over time, typically of the "big 3" webbrowsers)):
1.) iPhone, IE, Firefox, Safari get stomped at hacker contest -> (No Opera noted as "hosed" though, lol) http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/03/25/pwn2own_2010_day_one/
B.) For SPEED (& Opera leads again there, & CONSISTENTLY + for the LONGEST TIME, yes, even in javascript for the LONGEST time, until FF's new engines took its place TEMPRARILY (until Opera 10.50 @ least, because that's gotten a decent "boost" in that area -> http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/12/22/1911216 (not that it matters though, speeding up javascript is like asking to get infected by malscripted sites &/or adbanners faster imo @ least - that of a "POV" of PC security, mostly)):
2.) SunSpider tests done here recently -> http://www.pcpro.co.uk/gallery/features/356350/on-test-the-hidden-seven-browsers-in-the-windows-ballot/145087 WHERE OPERA REGAINS ITS JAVASCRIPT PROCESSING SPEED LEAD OVER FF YET AGAIN!
AND, for SECURITY also (less vulnerabilities present over time than IE or FF, per SECUNIA.COM stats):
----
OPERA 10.x VULNERABILITIES STATS:(01/21/2010)
http://secunia.com/advisories/product/26745/?task=statistics
(UNPATCHED = 0% )
There are no unpatched Secunia advisories affecting this product, when all vendor patches are applied..
-----
OLDER DATA (on performance alone):
3.) And this one too last year also -> http://crave.cnet.co.uk/software/0,39029471,49302491,00.htm [cnet.co.uk]
4.) AND IT HAS BEEN "BLOWING AWAY" FIREFOX IN HTML PARSING/PROCESSING SPEEDS AS WELL, & FOR YEARS NOW, per this test years ago -> http://www.howtocreate.co.uk/browserSpeed.html#win [howtocreate.co.uk]
5.) Same here -> http://nontroppo.org/timer/kestrel_tests/ [nontroppo.org]
6.) Yet again/once more? Same story -> http://tech.slashdot.org/story/09/08/08/1750241/Opera-Dominates-CNET-Survey-of-Underdog-Web-Browsers [slashdot.org]
====
AND, WHAT DOES A "HACKER/CRACKER"-SECURITY RESEARCHER TYPE CURRENTLY SAY, ABOUT OPERA (per Opera's showing in #1 above (which is, literally, "hot-off-the-press", from yesterday's news no less))?
OK:
----
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/03/25/pwn2own_2010_day_one/
"The problem Microsoft has is th
Per my subject-line above, well "mod me down" all you like but... facts? ARE FACTS!
So, that "all said & aside", well - we have Yet more "icing on the cake" (per valid test evidences from respected websites of BOTH Opera's superior SPEED & SECURITY ONLINE for all things "web"):
====
CURRENT DATA, AS OF TODAY, as to why Opera's superior in security too (from the mouth of a hacker/cracker-security tester no less):
A.) For SECURITY (& Opera leads there for the LONGEST TIME, yes, even in least security vulnerabilities found over time, typically of the "big 3" webbrowsers)):
1.) iPhone, IE, Firefox, Safari get stomped at hacker contest -> (No Opera noted as "hosed" though, lol) http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/03/25/pwn2own_2010_day_one/
AND, WHAT DOES A "HACKER/CRACKER"-SECURITY RESEARCHER TYPE CURRENTLY SAY, ABOUT OPERA (per Opera's showing in #1 above (which is, literally, "hot-off-the-press", from yesterday's news no less))?
OK:
----
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/03/25/pwn2own_2010_day_one/
"The problem Microsoft has is they have a big market share, said Vreugdenhil, the hacker who attacked IE. "I use Opera, but that's basically because it has a tiny market share and as far as I know, nobody is really interested in creating a drive-by download for opera. The web at the moment is pretty scary, actually."
----
Hence, again showing that even the "hacker/cracker" types use Opera, because it's safer to do so, & from the mindset of those DOING THE HACKING/CRACKING no less!
====
B.) For SPEED (& Opera leads again there, & CONSISTENTLY + for the LONGEST TIME, yes, even in javascript for the LONGEST time, until FF's new engines took its place TEMPRARILY (until Opera 10.50 @ least, because that's gotten a decent "boost" in that area -> http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/12/22/1911216 (not that it matters though, speeding up javascript is like asking to get infected by malscripted sites &/or adbanners faster imo @ least - that of a "POV" of PC security, mostly)):
2.) SunSpider tests done here recently -> http://www.pcpro.co.uk/gallery/features/356350/on-test-the-hidden-seven-browsers-in-the-windows-ballot/145087 WHERE OPERA REGAINS ITS JAVASCRIPT PROCESSING SPEED LEAD OVER FF YET AGAIN!
AND, for SECURITY also (less vulnerabilities present over time than IE or FF, per SECUNIA.COM stats):
----
OPERA 10.x VULNERABILITIES STATS:(01/21/2010)
http://secunia.com/advisories/product/26745/?task=statistics
(UNPATCHED = 0% )
There are no unpatched Secunia advisories affecting this product, when all vendor patches are applied..
-----
OLDER DATA (on performance alone):
3.) And this one too last year also -> http://crave.cnet.co.uk/software/0,39029471,49302491,00.htm [cnet.co.uk]
4.) AND IT HAS BEEN "BLOWING AWAY" FIREFOX IN HTML PARSING/PROCESSING SPEEDS AS WELL, & FOR YEARS NOW, per this test years ago -> http://www.howtocreate.co.uk/browserSpeed.html#win [howtocreate.co.uk]
5.) Same here -> http://nontroppo.org/timer/kestrel_tests/ [nontroppo.org]
6.) Yet again/once more? Same story -> http://tech.slashdot.org/story/09/0
"All I have asked for is an article, submitted to Slashdot, on which we can topically discuss the slowness or quickness of Opera and Firefox. Currently, you are posting off-topic in an article about security." - by clone53421 (1310749) on Thursday March 25, @12:35PM (#31612642)
So, that "all said & aside", well - we have Yet more "icing on the cake" (per valid test evidences from respected websites of BOTH Opera's superior SPEED & SECURITY ONLINE for all things "web") as of yesteday no less, read on, because my data on BOTH SPEED & SECURITY? Are current, valid, & from respectable enough sources! Read on, because yet more security & speed data is present below, by the truckload (an avalanche that backs my words, that YOU CANNOT HANDLE):
====
CURRENT DATA:
A.) For SECURITY (& Opera leads there for the LONGEST TIME, yes, even in least security vulnerabilities found over time, typically of the "big 3" webbrowsers)):
1.) iPhone, IE, Firefox, Safari get stomped at hacker contest -> (No Opera noted as "hosed" though, lol) http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/03/25/pwn2own_2010_day_one/
B.) For SPEED (& Opera leads again there, & CONSISTENTLY + for the LONGEST TIME, yes, even in javascript for the LONGEST time, until FF's new engines took its place TEMPRARILY (until Opera 10.50 @ least, because that's gotten a decent "boost" in that area -> http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/12/22/1911216 (not that it matters though, speeding up javascript is like asking to get infected by malscripted sites &/or adbanners faster imo @ least - that of a "POV" of PC security, mostly)):
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"LOL OWNED, go troll someone else." - by clone53421 (1310749) on Thursday March 25, @12:35PM (#31612642)
LOL, wtf? Are you BLIND, ILLITERATE, SKIMMING (or just trolling)?
This is CURRENT VALID SPEED DATA:
See next below, tons of it (present & past, + CONSISTENT):
2.) SunSpider tests done here recently -> http://www.pcpro.co.uk/gallery/features/356350/on-test-the-hidden-seven-browsers-in-the-windows-ballot/145087 WHERE OPERA REGAINS ITS JAVASCRIPT PROCESSING SPEED LEAD OVER FF YET AGAIN!
AND, for SECURITY also (less vulnerabilities present over time than IE or FF, per SECUNIA.COM stats):
----
OPERA 10.x VULNERABILITIES STATS:(01/21/2010)
http://secunia.com/advisories/product/26745/?task=statistics
(UNPATCHED = 0% )
There are no unpatched Secunia advisories affecting this product, when all vendor patches are applied..
-----
OLDER DATA (on performance alone):
3.) And this one too last year also -> http://crave.cnet.co.uk/software/0,39029471,49302491,00.htm [cnet.co.uk]
4.) AND IT HAS BEEN "BLOWING AWAY" FIREFOX IN HTML PARSING/PROCESSING SPEEDS AS WELL, & FOR YEARS NOW, per this test years ago -> http://www.howtocreate.co.uk/browserSpeed.html#win [howtocreate.co.uk]
5.) Same here -> http://nontroppo.org/timer/kestrel_tests/ [nontroppo.org]
6.) Yet again/once more? Same story -> http://tech.slashdot.org/story/09/08/08/1750241/Opera-Dominates-CNET-Survey-of-Underdog-Web-Browsers [slashdot.org]
====
AND, WHAT DOES A "HACKER/CRACKER"-SECURITY RESEARCHER TYPE CURRENT
That is not an article, submitted to Slashdot, on which we can topically discuss the slowness or quickness of Opera and Firefox. You seem to be incredibly stupid, or dense, or both. I’m sorry for you.
Alexander Peter Kristopeit bought his basement from his mommy for one dollar.
"My "undoing", LOL? You really are grasping at straws." - by clone53421 (1310749) on Thursday March 25, @12:50PM (#31612950)
Yes, you avoid showing me data that is current + shows Firefox is faster than Opera is... OR, more secure!
(LOL, you're going to LOVE THIS NEXT ONE, as it's "hot off the presses" as to Opera security superiority, too, yet again & ABSOLUTELY current too!)
So, that "all said & aside", well - we have Yet more "icing on the cake" (per valid test evidences from respected websites of BOTH Opera's superior SPEED & SECURITY ONLINE for all things "web"):
====
CURRENT DATA:
A.) For SECURITY (& Opera leads there for the LONGEST TIME, yes, even in least security vulnerabilities found over time, typically of the "big 3" webbrowsers)):
1.) iPhone, IE, Firefox, Safari get stomped at hacker contest -> (No Opera noted as "hosed" though, lol) http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/03/25/pwn2own_2010_day_one/
AND, WHAT DOES A "HACKER/CRACKER"-SECURITY RESEARCHER TYPE CURRENTLY SAY, ABOUT OPERA (per Opera's showing in #1 above (which is, literally, "hot-off-the-press", from yesterday's news no less))?
OK:
----
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/03/25/pwn2own_2010_day_one/
"The problem Microsoft has is they have a big market share, said Vreugdenhil, the hacker who attacked IE. "I use Opera, but that's basically because it has a tiny market share and as far as I know, nobody is really interested in creating a drive-by download for opera. The web at the moment is pretty scary, actually."
----
AND, for SECURITY also (less vulnerabilities present over time than IE or FF, per SECUNIA.COM stats):
----
OPERA 10.x VULNERABILITIES STATS:(01/21/2010)
http://secunia.com/advisories/product/26745/?task=statistics
(UNPATCHED = 0% )
There are no unpatched Secunia advisories affecting this product, when all vendor patches are applied..
-----
B.) For SPEED (& Opera leads again there, & CONSISTENTLY + for the LONGEST TIME, yes, even in javascript for the LONGEST time, until FF's new engines took its place TEMPRARILY (until Opera 10.50 @ least, because that's gotten a decent "boost" in that area -> http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/12/22/1911216 (not that it matters though, speeding up javascript is like asking to get infected by malscripted sites &/or adbanners faster imo @ least - that of a "POV" of PC security, mostly)):
2.) SunSpider tests done here recently -> http://www.pcpro.co.uk/gallery/features/356350/on-test-the-hidden-seven-browsers-in-the-windows-ballot/145087 WHERE OPERA REGAINS ITS JAVASCRIPT PROCESSING SPEED LEAD OVER FF YET AGAIN!
OLDER DATA (on performance alone):
3.) And this one too last year also -> http://crave.cnet.co.uk/software/0,39029471,49302491,00.htm [cnet.co.uk]
4.) AND IT HAS BEEN "BLOWING AWAY" FIREFOX IN HTML PARSING/PROCESSING SPEEDS AS WELL, & FOR YEARS NOW, per this test years ago -> http://www.howtocreate.co.uk/browserSpeed.html#win [howtocreate.co.uk]
5.) Same here -> http://nontroppo.org/timer/kestrel_tests/ [nontroppo.org]
6.) Yet again/once more? Same story ->
"That is not an article, submitted to Slashdot, on which we can topically discuss the slowness or quickness of Opera and Firefox." - by clone53421 (1310749) on Thursday March 25, @12:51PM (#31612976)
See subject-line above, & face facts: You are just trying to troll me it seems, because all I ask of you, is to show me more current data on speed OR security, vs. what I put up below (which is current, recent, & PAST data as well, backing my points on OPERA's SUPERIORITY IN SPEED AND SECURITY, period... you can't disprove the data I use, & you've shot your mouth off & lost... face it, lol... man!)
"You seem to be incredibly stupid, or dense, or both. I'm sorry for you." - by clone53421 (1310749) on Thursday March 25, @12:51PM (#31612976)
Does it matter HOW I put the data out? I put up a TON OF THAT below... lol, you are putting up such a POOR SHOW in your losing + trolling here, that it's not even funny anymore... lol, though I have to laugh now, again. Thanks for the laughs @ least... you're "too, Too, TOO EASY" to get the better of for me, you really truly are. Thanks.
So, that "all said & aside", well - we have Yet more "icing on the cake" (per valid test evidences from respected websites of BOTH Opera's superior SPEED & SECURITY ONLINE for all things "web"):
====
CURRENT DATA:
A.) For SECURITY (& Opera leads there for the LONGEST TIME, yes, even in least security vulnerabilities found over time, typically of the "big 3" webbrowsers)):
1.) iPhone, IE, Firefox, Safari get stomped at hacker contest -> (No Opera noted as "hosed" though, lol) http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/03/25/pwn2own_2010_day_one/
AND, WHAT DOES A "HACKER/CRACKER"-SECURITY RESEARCHER TYPE CURRENTLY SAY, ABOUT OPERA (per Opera's showing in #1 above (which is, literally, "hot-off-the-press", from yesterday's news no less))?
OK:
----
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/03/25/pwn2own_2010_day_one/
"The problem Microsoft has is they have a big market share, said Vreugdenhil, the hacker who attacked IE. "I use Opera, but that's basically because it has a tiny market share and as far as I know, nobody is really interested in creating a drive-by download for opera. The web at the moment is pretty scary, actually."
----
AND, for SECURITY also (less vulnerabilities present over time than IE or FF, per SECUNIA.COM stats):
----
OPERA 10.x VULNERABILITIES STATS:(01/21/2010)
http://secunia.com/advisories/product/26745/?task=statistics
(UNPATCHED = 0% )
There are no unpatched Secunia advisories affecting this product, when all vendor patches are applied..
-----
B.) For SPEED (& Opera leads again there, & CONSISTENTLY + for the LONGEST TIME, yes, even in javascript for the LONGEST time, until FF's new engines took its place TEMPRARILY (until Opera 10.50 @ least, because that's gotten a decent "boost" in that area -> http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/12/22/1911216 (not that it matters though, speeding up javascript is like asking to get infected by malscripted sites &/or adbanners faster imo @ least - that of a "POV" of PC security, mostly)):
2.) SunSpider tests done here recently -> http://www.pcpro.co.uk/gallery/features/356350/on-test-the-hidden-seven-browsers-in-the-windows-ballot/145087 WHERE OPERA REGAINS ITS JAVASCRIPT PROCESSING SPEED LEAD OVER FF YET AGAIN!
OLDER DATA (on performance alone):
3.)
I actually think it is really funny; you started by saying that Opera has NEVER been “owned”, (exact quote, They never "came for Opera") and then when I showed that “they” did “come for Opera”:
It is recommended to only access trustworthy websites until a patch is released or switch to another web browser in the meantime.
Now since I defeated your stupid claims you have switched to browser speed, which is hilarious because the faster Opera is, the quicker it will get “pwned” (to borrow the slang spelling of the word). And if they patched it? Well, they patched Firefox as well, so why are you bringing up OLD NEWS, troll?
Alexander Peter Kristopeit bought his basement from his mommy for one dollar.
tl/dr
Submit an article, troll.
Alexander Peter Kristopeit bought his basement from his mommy for one dollar.
"I actually think it is really funny; you started by saying that Opera has NEVER been "owned", (exact quote, They never "came for Opera") and then when I showed that "they" did "come for Opera"" - by clone53421 (1310749) on Thursday March 25, @01:25PM (#31613606)
Ok, where EXACTLY did I say OPERA "never ever had a flaw", hmmm?
I.E.-> The ORIGINAL POSTER mentioned "they came for IE" & "they came for FireFox" ... I have YET TO SEE GERMANY'S GOVERNMENT DO THE SAME REGARDING OPERA!
(With the "INFAMOUS THEY" here being specifically in regards to GERMAN GOV'T. I assume, that being the topic of this post no less on this website /.)... so, agaio:
When & WHERE did I ever say OPERA NEVER HAD FLAWS, & where??
I.E.-> Opera's had flaws, any complex program usually does... so, where did I say that, verbatim, for all cases present AND past??
(Give me a break, clone... or you'll be my new "Mr. Troll", lol! That's a title I reserve for the "weirdest trolls" by the by)
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"Now since I defeated your stupid claims" - by clone53421 (1310749) on Thursday March 25, @01:25PM (#31613606)
WTF? Where did you do so, & on WHAT basis?? Same question as above... because I have YET to see the German Gov't. "put down" or "warn against" using Opera... this one's about FF, & germany saying "NO TO FF", for now, & NOT TOO LONG AGO, they did the same about IE (rightfully so)... can you show me where they did the same to Opera???
(IF THEY DID? I'd like to know where & when, + why... thanks, IF you can find that info... I have NEVER seen it)
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"you have switched to browser speed, which is hilarious because the faster Opera is, the quicker it will get "pwned" (to borrow the slang spelling of the word)." - by clone53421 (1310749) on Thursday March 25, @01:25PM (#31613606)
"you have switched to browser speed" - by clone53421 (1310749) on Thursday March 25, @01:25PM (#31613606)
Well, you keep avoiding that one, for one thing! "Gee - I wonder why?" (not)... lol, 'inquiring minds WANT TO KNOW'...
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"which is hilarious because the faster Opera is, the quicker it will get "pwned" (to borrow the slang spelling of the word)." - by clone53421 (1310749) on Thursday March 25, @01:25PM (#31613606)
As far as javascript? Absolutely, & I even stated that in my last post... wtf is wrong with you??
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"And if they patched it? Well, they patched Firefox as well, so why are you bringing up OLD NEWS, troll?" - by clone53421 (1310749) on Thursday March 25, @01:25PM (#31613606)
Troll? You came in here, TROLLING ME, & getting your butt handed to you @ every turn... so, answer my 2 questions now, quit avoiding them with Trollish b.s., clone:
1.) Where & WHEN did I ever say Opera never had any flaws & that GERMANY warned about NOT USING OPERA (which was my response to the init. poster I replied to)?
2.) Show me tests that show FF's faster than Opera? (Using evidneces that are more recent than my own evidences I put up numerous times which you "blew off" because you cannot find data that shows FF's faster that's more current that what I put up is why)
APK
"tl/dr" - by clone53421 (1310749) on Thursday March 25, @01:26PM (#31613624)
LMAO - oh man... whew! See subject-line... lol, "crying for mama", clone? You keep avoiding all the evidence in articles I put up below that evidence OPERA'S SUPERIOR SPEED IN ALL THINGS WEB vs. FF &/or IE even, AS WELL AS ITS SECURITY TRACKRECORD OVER TIME (currently too, recently, AND IN THE PAST TOO).
(Give us a break little troll, please... I can't keep laughing this hard!)
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"Submit an article, troll." - by clone53421 (1310749) on Thursday March 25, @01:26PM (#31613624)
Uhm, Clone... I'm beginning to suspect you cannot read, because HOW MANY MORE OF THESE ARTICLES OF PROOF OF OPERA'S SUPERIORITY NOW & OVER TIME OF ITS SPEED VS. FF (even IE too) AS WELL AS ITS SECURITY TRACKRECORD vs. FF &/or IE?
AGAIN:
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CURRENT DATA:
A.) For SECURITY (& Opera leads there for the LONGEST TIME, yes, even in least security vulnerabilities found over time, typically of the "big 3" webbrowsers)):
1.) iPhone, IE, Firefox, Safari get stomped at hacker contest -> (No Opera noted as "hosed" though, lol) http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/03/25/pwn2own_2010_day_one/
AND, WHAT DOES A "HACKER/CRACKER"-SECURITY RESEARCHER TYPE CURRENTLY SAY, ABOUT OPERA (per Opera's showing in #1 above (which is, literally, "hot-off-the-press", from yesterday's news no less))?
OK:
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http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/03/25/pwn2own_2010_day_one/
"The problem Microsoft has is they have a big market share, said Vreugdenhil, the hacker who attacked IE. "I use Opera, but that's basically because it has a tiny market share and as far as I know, nobody is really interested in creating a drive-by download for opera. The web at the moment is pretty scary, actually."
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AND, for SECURITY also (less vulnerabilities present over time than IE or FF, per SECUNIA.COM stats):
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OPERA 10.x VULNERABILITIES STATS:(01/21/2010)
http://secunia.com/advisories/product/26745/?task=statistics
(UNPATCHED = 0% )
There are no unpatched Secunia advisories affecting this product, when all vendor patches are applied..
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B.) For SPEED (& Opera leads again there, & CONSISTENTLY + for the LONGEST TIME, yes, even in javascript for the LONGEST time, until FF's new engines took its place TEMPRARILY (until Opera 10.50 @ least, because that's gotten a decent "boost" in that area -> http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/12/22/1911216 (not that it matters though, speeding up javascript is like asking to get infected by malscripted sites &/or adbanners faster imo @ least - that of a "POV" of PC security, mostly)):
2.) SunSpider tests done here recently -> http://www.pcpro.co.uk/gallery/features/356350/on-test-the-hidden-seven-browsers-in-the-windows-ballot/145087 WHERE OPERA REGAINS ITS JAVASCRIPT PROCESSING SPEED LEAD OVER FF YET AGAIN!
OLDER DATA (on performance alone):
3.) And this one too last year also -> http://crave.cnet.co.uk/software/0,39029471,49302491,00.htm [cnet.co.uk]
4.) AND IT HAS BEEN "BLOWING AWAY" FIREFOX IN HTML PARSING/PROCESSING SPEEDS AS WELL, & FOR YEARS NOW, per this test years ago -> http://www.howtocreate.co.uk/browserSpeed.html#win [howtocreate.co.uk
"exact quote from you: They never "came for Opera"" - by clone53421 (1310749) on Thursday March 25, @05:54PM (#31618322)
My subject line of my FIRST reply here was in regards to the person I replied to, who said this, verbatim:
http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1591778&cid=31580262
"First they came for IE, and I didn't speak up because I didn't use IE. Then they came for Firefox, and I didn't speak up because I didn't use Firefox. - by Beelzebud (1361137)
on Tuesday March 23, @03:16AM (#31580262)
SO, I said what I did (Germany NEVER has done that, about OPERA) - Now, YOU Show me where & WHEN Germany's government warned NOT TO USE OPERA?
"m'kay??" (lol, you can't, on this account, OR, about Opera being faster than FF in all things "web", either - AND YOU KNOW IT, troll!)
You can't, & no more than you can show me more current data than what I used that showed OPERA IS FASTER THAN FF &/or IE for all things "web" (javascript processing AND html work too)
APK
P.S.=> "too, Too, TOO EASY", & you're just another troll trying to either put words in my muoth I never said, or, avoiding my questions (like show me data more current than my own on Opera's speed advantage over FF &/or IE)... what a joke you are man, seriously! apk
Who, me? I’ve beaten you soundly. You’re just too dumb to figure it out. Like a chicken with its head cut off, you make a lot of noise and commotion for someone who’s already been hung out to dry.
Alexander Peter Kristopeit bought his basement from his mommy for one dollar.
I don’t give a flying fuck what Germany says. I found a recommendation from a reputable security company that I in fact give much more credibility than some pencil-pusher in the German government.
Alexander Peter Kristopeit bought his basement from his mommy for one dollar.
"I don't give a flying fuck what Germany says" - by clone53421 (1310749) on Friday March 26, @08:33AM (#31624542)
Beelzebud did though & hence MY reply to he -> http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1591778&cid=31580262
"First they came for IE, and I didn't speak up because I didn't use IE. Then they came for Firefox, and I didn't speak up because I didn't use Firefox." - by Beelzebud (1361137) on Tuesday March 23, @03:16AM (#31580262)
Get it? SO, I said what I did (Germany NEVER has done that, about OPERA)!
Now, YOU Show me where & WHEN Germany's government warned NOT TO USE OPERA?
"m'kay??" (lol, you can't, on this account, OR, about Opera being faster than FF in all things "web", either - AND YOU KNOW IT, troll!)
APK
P.S.=> You've been trolling me, but I was completely on topic in my response to Beelzebud, period... see the above, it's there in PLAIN BLACK & WHITE man! apk
"I've beaten you soundly." - by clone53421 (1310749) on Friday March 26, @08:32AM (#31624528)
Really? If so, PROVE FF's faster than, or more secure than, Opera is then... since you've so "soundly beaten me", the prove those points you keep avoiding!
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"You're just too dumb to figure it out." - by clone53421 (1310749) on Friday March 26, @08:32AM (#31624528)
LOL, that's HILARIOUS: How do you figure that, when I have you trapped in constantly avoiding what right up above, in both my last sentence & my subject-line then?
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"Like a chicken with its head cut off, you make a lot of noise and commotion for someone who's already been hung out to dry." - by clone53421 (1310749) on Friday March 26, @08:32AM (#31624528)
Actually, it's QUITE AMUSING watching you avoid what I asked above, & for you to supply an equal amount of evidence to back up your points (as I did, repeatedly).
Seriously - WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE FOOLING?
(Answer = yourself, @ best...)
APK
P.S.=> Unlike your "trolling evasion methods", I answer your questions or disprove your points with contrary evidences from reputable sources in articles & what-not... you, by way of comparison? Evasions, & a LOT of "double-talk trolling b.s.", inclusive of profanities, evading questions I ask you to prove per your points, & then you tried the "oldest troll trick in the book" of "You can't write", minus a PHD in English no less on your part to qualify you as an expert in that area (more like YOU CAN'T READ actually, because I supplied a TON of information regarding Opera's superior security & speed, from many sources no less, vs ZERO on your end) & then, you tried saying things about my mental state (again, with you minus a PHD in Psych, or a license to practice, & no formal evaluation performed on your part on myself either)... give us a break already, lol! apk
See subject-line above, & quit avoiding my question (+ reducing yourself to name tossing & profanities, etc.)
"All vulnerabilities are unknown before they are discovered, moron" - by clone53421 (1310749) on Friday March 26, @08:44AM (#31624646
Yes, I know (& your being reduced to tossing names, though you SAID I DO THAT? LOL! Pot calling the kettle black on YOUR PART, eh?) - but, you are evading the question I asked last post:
SHOW ME WHERE I STATED OPERA NEVER HAD AN ERROR PLEASE!
(After all, that's been the premise of your trolling attack on me, the entire time here... so, prove that I stated that! Good luck, because I never once did - I did state Opera shows NO KNOWN SECURITY VULNERABLITIES though, repeatedly from a reputable source in SECUNIA.COM in fact/iirc)
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"But if you really want to continue quoting meaningless statistics" - by clone53421 (1310749) on Friday March 26, @08:44AM (#31624646)
First, my test data from the SunSpider benchmark is VERY RECENT (like, within a week or two @ most from today no less) & it shows Opera's faster... The rest of my data dealt with the fact Opera shows NO KNOWN SECURITY VULNERABILITIES either... real "invalid", that.
No, to answer you now - I put up enough data to back MY points... now, you back up yours, & SHOW ME WHERE I SAID OPERA NEVER HAD A SECURITY BUG IN IT EVER AS YOU SEEM TO STATE I HAD SAID (in fact, I stated all complex programs take alterations, be that for security vulnerabilities issues, or even useability/design or efficiency ones too & more).
APK
P.S.=> You can't & YOU KNOW IT - Once more, as per usual from you?
Well - You have again, & directed MY WAY for the 2nd or 3rd time from YOU now here on this site, have tried to put words in my mouth I never once stated, & you blew it again the same as you have before in attempting that (either learn to read, or boost your reading comprehension somehow please, thank you)... apk
"I know I said I was done with this conversation" - by _Sprocket_ (42527) on Friday March 26, @05:54PM (#31633152)
Yes, and you obviously cannot keep your word it seems...
"but since you were nice enough to actually get on topic again" - by _Sprocket_ (42527) on Friday March 26, @05:54PM (#31633152)
I was never "off topic" - I was merely informing others about what I KNOW is a faster, more natively feature-laden, & overall, over time, more secure webbrowser! Why do you think even the "hacker/cracker" types use it?
PROOF? Ok, see this quote (even more importantly, the article it's from no less, which I posted above):
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http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/03/25/pwn2own_2010_day_one/
"The problem Microsoft has is they have a big market share, said Vreugdenhil, the hacker who attacked IE. "I use Opera, but that's basically because it has a tiny market share and as far as I know, nobody is really interested in creating a drive-by download for opera. The web at the moment is pretty scary, actually."
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"One is going to expect that you've provided an example of software that was, in fact, without vulnerabilities." - by _Sprocket_ (42527) on Friday March 26, @05:54PM (#31633152)
You obviously misinterpreted it then, if THAT was your impression... because YOU KNOW that I said QUITE THE OPPOSITE of any complex software, here in my P.S.:
http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1591778&cid=31599332
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"Again - let me repeat this again just in case you're missing the point" - by _Sprocket_ (42527) on Friday March 26, @05:54PM (#31633152)
LOL, man... you're attempting to lecture me & say I am "missing the point", when you quite clearly misinterpreted what I said, AND, based on your erroneous interpretation "went off on me"? Even AFTER I PROVIDED EVIDENCE YOU CLEARLY MISSED THAT STATED I KNOW THAT MOST ANY COMPLEX WARE WILL UNDERGO SOME FORM OF REVISION (be that for security bugs, design for useability, or added features etc. et al)??
Come on man... please.
APK
P.S.=> Oh, this REALLY "takes the cake": Hilarious...
"Maybe your ego is in the way. I'd work on that a bit more, Ozymandias. It'd be embarrassing for another "nobody" to have to correct you the next time." - by _Sprocket_ (42527) on Friday March 26, @05:54PM (#31633152)
Again - the day you can accomplish all that I have in this art & science, partial list here:
"My Name is Ozymandias: King of Kings - Look upon my works, ye mighty, & DESPAIR..."
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Windows NT Magazine (now Windows IT Pro) April 1997 "BACK OFFICE PERFORMANCE" issue, page 61
(&, for work done for EEC Systems/SuperSpeed.com on PAID CONTRACT (writing portions of their SuperCache program increasing its performance by up to 40% via my work) albeit, for their SuperDisk & HOW TO APPLY IT, took them to a finalist position @ MS Tech Ed, two years in a row 2000-2002, in its HARDEST CATEGORY: SQLServer Performance Enhancement).
WINDOWS MAGAZINE, 1997, "Top Freeware & Shareware of the Year" issue page 210, #1/first entry in fact (my work is there)
PC-WELT FEB 1998 - page 84, again, my work is featured there
WINDOWS MAGAZINE, WINTER 1998 - page 92, insert section, MUST HAVE WARES, my work is again, there
PC-WELT FEB 1999 - page 83, again, my work is featured there
CHIP Magazine 7/99 - page 100, my work is there
GERMAN PC BOOK, Data Becker publisher "PC Aufrusten und Repairen" 2000, where my work is contained in it
HOT SHAREWARE Numero 46 issue, pg. 54 (PC ware mag from Spain), 2001 my work is there, first one featured, yet ag
LOL, still at this? APK, you have been beaten badly, why don’t you just give up? too too easy, as you would say.
Germany warns against using Firefox because of vulnerability; patched in new version.
Independent security firm warns against using Opera because of vulnerability; patched in new version.
Exactly the same; I beat you easily on security when you claimed that “they never came for Opera” and so you fell back to your tried and true trolling about speed, which is moot, offtopic, and I even gave you a link to submit a story so that you could make your argument legitimately but you “don’t do that” because oh noes it would require you to write a sane, readable paragraph or two if it had any hope of being accepted for publication. Which of course we both know doesn’t require a “PHD in English” but which capability you seem to lack, despite the fact that you claim to be old enough that we ought to be able to expect sane, readable, and coherent thought from you.
Alexander Peter Kristopeit bought his basement from his mommy for one dollar.
"Certainly: "They never came for Opera". They did come for Opera; they recommended that people stop using it until this latest version patched the security flaw they found." - by clone53421 (1310749) on Thursday April 01, @08:29AM (#31699378)
Show us an article from a legitimate and reputable website that states that currently please. There's no reason for them to currently anyhow, lol! Why? Well... that's simply because Opera has NO KNOWN SECURITY VULNERABILITIES IN IT PRESENTLY either, by the way (see here):
http://secunia.com/advisories/product/26745/
Now - I do know that Germany said to stay away from both IE &/or FireFox, with proofs no less of that much rencently:
German government in Firefox warning -> http://www.independent.ie/business/technology/german-government-in-firefox-warning-2107853.html
and
German government warns citizens off IE -> http://www.techradar.com/news/internet/german-government-warns-citizens-off-ie-664181
However, I have yet to see that said of Opera by the German government.
Please produce your evidence of that quoted statement of yours above, and of any known security vulnerabilities in Opera.
(Thank you).
Oh, also: Not "too clever" of you trying to laughingly "get that last word on me" - I won't allow it, lol!
APK
P.S.=> By the way, Clone (or, shall I say Sprocket, lol (your "alter ego" here no doubt)): Do you like the band, Alice in Chains??
If so, please - DO go to a doctor, & ask him to "Check My Brain"...
(Your brain that is, lol, & for its actual existence inside your cranium, because I believe that your brain, like your inability to produce a statement of the German's explicitly stating that their peoples stay away from Opera (as they had for both IE &/or FF above), or that Opera has known security issues currently, doesn't exist (lmao))... apk
"Certainly: "They never came for Opera". They did come for Opera; they recommended that people stop using it until this latest version patched the security flaw they found." - by clone53421 (1310749) on Thursday April 01, @08:29AM (#31699378)
Show us an article from a legitimate and reputable website that states that currently please. There's no reason for them to currently anyhow, lol! Why? Well... that's simply because Opera has NO KNOWN SECURITY VULNERABILITIES IN IT PRESENTLY either, by the way (see here):
http://secunia.com/advisories/product/26745/
Now - I do know that Germany said to stay away from both IE &/or FireFox, with proofs no less of that much rencently:
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German government in Firefox warning -> http://www.independent.ie/business/technology/german-government-in-firefox-warning-2107853.html
and
German government warns citizens off IE -> http://www.techradar.com/news/internet/german-government-warns-citizens-off-ie-664181
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However, I have yet to see that said of Opera by the German government.
So, that "all said & aside"? Well, per your quote above: Please produce your evidence of that quoted statement of yours above, and of any known security vulnerabilities in Opera.
(Thank you).
The reason I ask this, is simple: The German government even ADVISED THAT FOLKS SWITCH TO OPERA (doubtless because of its not having any known security vulnerabilities presently, per my SECUNIA.COM evidence thereof, above, no less)... see here:
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"The German government is thus advising its citizens to use alternative browsers such as Mozilla's Firefox, Google Chrome, Apple Safari or Opera."
http://www.techradar.com/news/internet/german-government-warns-citizens-off-ie-664181
FireFox had a bug in 3.6 though, & Chrome bore multiple KNOWN vulnerabilities recently (now patched though) & it's not nearly as fast as Opera is (none of them are, especially on the most used OS platform there is, in Windows), BUT, Apple's Safari currently does -> http://secunia.com/advisories/product/25519/ ...
Guess that leaves Opera then, eh? Lmao... Ah, man - "too, Too, TOO EASY!". Just too easy...
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Oh, also: Not "too clever" of you trying to laughingly "get that last word on me" - I won't allow it, lol! You're going to have to wake up a LOT earlier in the a.m., to even THINK I would let the "likes of you" (lol) even TRY to "get the better of", me.
APK
P.S.=> By the way, Clone (or, shall I say Sprocket, lol (your "alter ego" here no doubt)): Do you like the band, Alice in Chains??
If so, please - DO go to a doctor, & ask him to "Check My Brain"...
(Your brain that is, lol, & for its actual existence inside your cranium, because I believe that your brain, like your inability to produce a statement of the German's explicitly stating that their peoples stay away from Opera (as they had for both IE &/or FF above), or that Opera has known security issues currently, doesn't exist (lmao))... apk
Actually, that is false, you were NEVER “completely on topic”; your ORIGINAL response was:
FALSE, as “they never came for Opera”... INCORRECT, as I showed;
OFF-TOPIC, as we were talking about Firefox and IE, not “for Opera”... your FALSE information about Opera is not relevant;
OFF-TOPIC, as we were talking about SECURITY, but “OPERA ALSO SURPASSES FIREFOX IN BROWSING SPEED” is 200% UTTERLY OFF-TOPIC.
So you posted FALSE, OFF-TOPIC information from the very beginning, and now you are claiming that I am trolling you?!! LOL, better luck next time, poor apk... you must be slipping.
Alexander Peter Kristopeit bought his basement from his mommy for one dollar.
"Show me an article from a legitimate and reputable website that states that about Firefox CURRENTLY." - by clone53421 (1310749) on Thursday April 01, @03:36PM (#31702336)
What? At the start date of this article I certainly could, & did!
Here they are, once more:
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German government in Firefox warning -> http://www.independent.ie/business/technology/german-government-in-firefox-warning-2107853.html
and
German government warns citizens off IE -> http://www.techradar.com/news/internet/german-government-warns-citizens-off-ie-664181
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BY WAY OF COMPARISON/By the same token, on YOUR part however? You NEVER could put up one that backs what you said (which I requote below), & that was that Germany said the same of Opera, as it did of FF & IE (which was, "stay away", in essence).
(Clue - check the date of those URL's I put up in my last post, that clearly state that Germany's gov't. said "steer clear" of FF + IE, & then? THEN, check the start date of this thread start date... "m'kay"?)
They were URL's noted above in my last post no less that match the date of THIS article on /. here...
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So, once more - prove what YOU stated, which I will once again post for you troll:
"They did come for Opera; they recommended that people stop using it until this latest version patched the security flaw they found" - by clone53421 (1310749) on Thursday April 01, @08:29AM (#31699378) Journal
B.S. - again, find where THE GERMAN GOV'T. SAID "Don't use Opera", as they did with IE & FF...
(You'll never find it - they have never done so, afaik @ least!)
APK
P.S.=> You're either "think" in the head, an incorrigible TROLL (this is the case imo), or just well... "less than a 10 below plantlife IQ" bearing individual (& please - listen to Alice in Chains & take their advice and "CHECK YOUR BRAIN"... thank you!)... apk
Who gives a flying shit what the German idiots said about Opera?
I quoted a LEGITIMATE SECURITY COMPANY. You fail, but that was really a nice try.
Trolling all my posts is a nice touch, too. LOL, the last act of a desperate child!
Alexander Peter Kristopeit bought his basement from his mommy for one dollar.
Um, yes, that’s OLD NEWS, and updated in the new version... so no, not “CURRENT”. Nice try, apk!
It does make me laugh though to think how many mod points will be wasted modding down all of your offtopic, trolling posts replying to all of my posts.
Alexander Peter Kristopeit bought his basement from his mommy for one dollar.
I already said I don’t give half a worm-eaten turd what the German government said.
I quoted a LEGITIMATE SECURITY COMPANY.
Enjoy your shitty advice from the wannabe security people in the German government, loser. I’ll be over here quoting real security analysts.
You’re such a failure at trolling that it’s really sad.
Alexander Peter Kristopeit bought his basement from his mommy for one dollar.
OOOOh yeah, the Germans are experts on computer security.
Not.
Enjoy your shitty advice from German politicians who know nothing about computers and OLD, OLD news about Firefox bugs that were already patched. LOL.
Alexander Peter Kristopeit bought his basement from his mommy for one dollar.
"Who gives a flying shit what the German idiots said about Opera?" - by clone53421 (1310749) on Thursday April 01, @07:17PM (#31703500)
You evidently do, because you OPENED YOUR BIG MOUTH, in your trolling me... lol, and now? Now you can't back up your b.s. (especially when you stated the Germans said to "stay away from Opera" & you cannot produce proof of where they did so - however, I did, as regards Germans stating that about FireFox &/or Internet Explorer).
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"I quoted a LEGITIMATE SECURITY COMPANY. You fail, but that was really a nice try." - by clone53421 (1310749) on Thursday April 01, @07:17PM (#31703500)
Uhm, first of all: WHERE WAS THAT? I did so, using reports from SECUNIA.COM (a totally legit & respected site for security vulnerabilities on programs & OS', etc./et al) - I didn't see YOU using any such thing at any point here... show me where you did in THIS exchange/debate you & I are having... ok? Thanks.
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"Trolling all my posts is a nice touch, too. LOL, the last act of a desperate child!" - by clone53421 (1310749) on Thursday April 01, @07:17PM (#31703500)
LOL, what are you talking about? You came into 2 of my posts, in this thread about GERMANY STATING TO ITS PEOPLES TO "STEER CLEAR OF FIREFOX", and YOU? YOU did that, albeit, to me... talk about the "pot calling the kettle black".
Your profane reaction & name tossing only serves to show you don't like having done to you, what YOU DO TO OTHERS (first on your part no less)... what's the matter? You go and "tick someone off" & they exposed you for some screwup your big mouth made happen?? Well, that's what you get when your big mouth writes checks your dull brain doesn't have the know-how to back up & ca$h!
APK
P.S.=> Back up your b.s. here then, which I will now requote (Quit AVOIDING my questions troll: Prove what YOU stated, which I quote you in below next):
"They did come for Opera; they recommended that people stop using it until this latest version patched the security flaw they found" - by clone53421 (1310749) on Thursday April 01, @08:29AM (#31699378) Journal
B.S. - again, find where THE GERMAN GOV'T. SAID "Don't use Opera", as they did with IE & FF... see here below (and this very article of course also):
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German government in Firefox warning -> http://www.independent.ie/business/technology/german-government-in-firefox-warning-2107853.html [independent.ie]
and
German government warns citizens off IE -> http://www.techradar.com/news/internet/german-government-warns-citizens-off-ie-664181 [techradar.com]
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You'll never find that the germans said "stay away from Opera", though you said they did, quoted above no less - & yet, the Germans have never done so, afaik @ least!
(You're either "thick" in the head, an incorrigible TROLL (this is the case imo), or just well... "less than a 10 below plantlife IQ" bearing individual (& please - listen to Alice in Chains & take their advice and "CHECK YOUR BRAIN", or @ least your inability to read... thank you!))... apk
"Um, yes, that's OLD NEWS, and updated in the new version... so no, not "CURRENT". Nice try, apk!" - by clone53421 (1310749) on Thursday April 01, @07:19PM (#31703508)
What was this article on /. here about? Let me "refresh your memory": IT WAS ABOUT THE GERMAN GOVERNMENT SAYING "STEER CLEAR OF FIREFOX" (just as they did of IE before that - but, never about Opera, though YOU state they did & I quote that, again, below no less in my p.s.)...
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"It does make me laugh though to think how many mod points will be wasted modding down all of your offtopic, trolling posts replying to all of my posts." - by clone53421 (1310749) on Thursday April 01, @07:19PM (#31703508)
That's ok "CLOWN" (lol, change your name here to CLOWN instead of CLONE in other words, lol) - you can use all your mod points from your own alternate logon accounts for that... it's "ok by me" lmao!
(You're the one continuing this, with b.s. you cannot back up, in trolling myself in all my posts in this article's threads... NOT the other way around. If someone is trolling you, you probably did the same to they and they are only pointing it out to others... especially how you screwed up here, which I requote below next no less in my p.s. below)
APK
P.S.=>
"They did come for Opera; they recommended that people stop using it until this latest version patched the security flaw they found" - by clone53421 (1310749) on Thursday April 01, @08:29AM (#31699378) Journal
B.S. - again, find where THE GERMAN GOV'T. SAID "Don't use Opera", as they did with IE & FF... see here below (and this very article of course also):
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German government in Firefox warning -> http://www.independent.ie/business/technology/german-government-in-firefox-warning-2107853.html
and
German government warns citizens off IE -> http://www.techradar.com/news/internet/german-government-warns-citizens-off-ie-664181
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You'll never find that the germans said "stay away from Opera" - they have never done so, afaik @ least!
(You're either "thick" in the head, an incorrigible TROLL (this is the case imo), or just well... "less than a 10 below plantlife IQ" bearing individual (& please - listen to Alice in Chains & take their advice and "CHECK YOUR BRAIN", or @ least your inability to read... thank you!)... apk
"OOOOh yeah, the Germans are experts on computer security. Not." - by clone53421 (1310749) on Friday April 02, @12:09AM (#31704434)
They're more adept @ it than you are (iirc, they have a branch of gov't. & an agency (STASI, iirc?) for it, as most governments do)... especially since you said that Germany said to steer clear of Opera (& they NEVER have, though they did for BOTH IE &/or FF though, & what's in my p.s. below proves that...)
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"Enjoy your shitty advice from German politicians who know nothing about computers and OLD, OLD news about Firefox bugs that were already patched. LOL." - by clone53421 (1310749) on Friday April 02, @12:09AM (#31704434)
Not @ the post time of this article... care to tell us what this article's title & premise + conclusion were? Let me refresh your memory, with what's in my p.s. below...
APK
P.S.=> Now, back up your b.s., which I requoted now below, & find where THE GERMAN GOV'T. SAID "Don't use Opera", as they did with IE & FF... see here below (and this very article of course also):
"They did come for Opera; they recommended that people stop using it until this latest version patched the security flaw they found" - by clone53421 (1310749) on Thursday April 01, @08:29AM (#31699378) Journal
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German government in Firefox warning -> http://www.independent.ie/business/technology/german-government-in-firefox-warning-2107853.html
and
German government warns citizens off IE -> http://www.techradar.com/news/internet/german-government-warns-citizens-off-ie-664181
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You'll never find that the germans said "stay away from Opera" - they have never done so, afaik @ least!
(You're either "thick" in the head, an incorrigible TROLL (this is the case imo), or just well... "less than a 10 below plantlife IQ" bearing individual (& please - listen to Alice in Chains & take their advice and "CHECK YOUR BRAIN", or @ least your inability to read... thank you!))... apk
Maybe you need to re-read this thread; I never cared what the Germans said about Opera. Or Firefox, because they’re retards and this is OLD NEWS, and has been patched.
I just delivered a knock-out punch when you said “they never came for Opera”, showing that a LEGITIMATE (unlike the idiots in the German government who could be utterly clueless about security as far as I am concerned) company recommended that you NOT use Opera because of exactly the same sort of security flaw. Ever since then you’ve been butthurt about that so you brought up speed to try to bait me into getting off the topic, which I didn’t fall for... LOL.
Alexander Peter Kristopeit bought his basement from his mommy for one dollar.
LOL, whatever you say kimmo.
Alexander Peter Kristopeit bought his basement from his mommy for one dollar.
No, let me refresh YOUR memory: this article was about THE NEW VERSION, 3.6.2.
The headline of TFA:
Then they went on to say that the German government had advised against using version 2.6, which was OLD NEWS and anyone with a brain would know this from reading TFA. As I have one, and did, and know this, which are apparently the differences between me and you... LOL!
Alexander Peter Kristopeit bought his basement from his mommy for one dollar.
LOL, better than a REAL SECURITY FIRM, I guess? Because that is where I got my source. It’s not like I claimed to be an expert.
Nice try, apk, really nice try... APF is more like it though, because you really are an APril Fool (all year long! ROFL).
Alexander Peter Kristopeit bought his basement from his mommy for one dollar.
"LOL, better than a REAL SECURITY FIRM, I guess? Because that is where I got my source" - by clone53421 (1310749) on Friday April 02, @10:51AM (#31706372)
No, YOUR INFO. IS 2 VERSIONS OF OPERA OLD #1, & #2? Your link above (I went thru your posts here in this exchange) & it was from OPERA, here: http://www.opera.com/support/kb/view/865/ when you posted it, here in this exchange -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1591778&cid=31582488
(Man, YOU CAN'T EVEN GET THAT MUCH RIGHT... lol!)
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"Nice try, apk, really nice try... APF is more like it though, because you really are an APril Fool (all year long! ROFL)." - by clone53421 (1310749) on Friday April 02, @10:51AM (#31706372)
Better than yours, so again: CAN YOU TELL US THE TOPIC OF THIS ARTICLE? Clue - IT'S ABOUT GERMANY WARNING ITS PEOPLES NOT TO USE FIREFOX as they did about IE also
SO - once more: Can you show me where German government EVER SAID NOT TO USE OPERA? No, you cannot... even though you said they did (b.s., & this below ALL proves that much easily, with your OWN LYING WORDS no less, easily ("too, Too, TOO EASY" in fact!)).
(1310749) on Thursday April 01, @08:29AM (#31699378) Journal
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German government in Firefox warning -> http://www.independent.ie/business/technology/german-government-in-firefox-warning-2107853.html
and
German government warns citizens off IE -> http://www.techradar.com/news/internet/german-government-warns-citizens-off-ie-664181
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You'll never find that the germans said "stay away from Opera", EVEN THOUGH YOU SAY GERMAN GOV'T. DID ABOVE (pure b.s. OR a mistake on your part, take your pick) - they have never done so, afaik @ least!
(You're either "thick" in the head, an incorrigible TROLL (this is the case imo), or just well... "less than a 10 below plantlife IQ" bearing individual (& please - listen to Alice in Chains & take their advice and "CHECK YOUR BRAIN", or @ least your inability to read... thank you!))... apk
APK
P.S.=> Your information is also SO STALE (considering you posted a very old bug from OPERA 9.23) & OPERA IS CURRENTLY AT VERSION 10.52.3344 as of today, here -> http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/ ... so, so much for "your information being current" (far, Far, FAR FROM IT in fact - what you posted is YEARS OLD on a guess/iirc)... apk
"Then they went on to say that the German government had advised against using version 2.6, which was OLD NEWS and anyone with a brain would know this from reading TFA. As I have one, and did, and know this, which are apparently the differences between me and you... LOL!by clone53421 (1310749) on Friday April 02, @10:34AM (#31706202)
WRONG: That says "later this month" & is a "note" ONLY, you fool... THUS, the article IS ABOUT VERSION 3.6 when it was written, & that it had a serious bug! Hence, why Germany warned about using FF to its people... troll, you're not even GOOD @ trolling.
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"LOL, better than a REAL SECURITY FIRM, I guess? Because that is where I got my source" - by clone53421 (1310749) on Friday April 02, @10:51AM (#31706372)
No, YOUR INFO. IS 2 VERSIONS OF OPERA OLD #1, & #2? Your link above (I went thru your posts here in this exchange) & it was from OPERA, here: http://www.opera.com/support/kb/view/865/ when you posted it, here in this exchange -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1591778&cid=31582488
(Man, YOU CAN'T EVEN GET THAT MUCH RIGHT... lol!)
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"Nice try, apk, really nice try... APF is more like it though, because you really are an APril Fool (all year long! ROFL)." - by clone53421 (1310749) on Friday April 02, @10:51AM (#31706372)
Better than yours, so again: CAN YOU TELL US THE TOPIC OF THIS ARTICLE? Clue - IT'S ABOUT GERMANY WARNING ITS PEOPLES NOT TO USE FIREFOX as they did about IE also
"They did come for Opera; they recommended that people stop using it until this latest version patched the security flaw they found" - by clone53421 (1310749) on Thursday April 01, @08:29AM (#31699378) Journal(1310749) on Thursday April 01, @08:29AM (#31699378) Journal
THOSE ARE YOUR OWN WORDS ABOVE STATING THE GERMAN GOV'T. WARNED ITS PEOPLES ABOUT OPERA (which they never did, as they did regarding FF &/or IE, proofs below):
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German government in Firefox warning -> http://www.independent.ie/business/technology/german-government-in-firefox-warning-2107853.html
and
German government warns citizens off IE -> http://www.techradar.com/news/internet/german-government-warns-citizens-off-ie-664181
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SO - once more: Can you show me where German government EVER SAID NOT TO USE OPERA? No, you cannot... even though you said they did (b.s., & this below ALL proves that much easily, with your OWN LYING WORDS no less, easily ("too, Too, TOO EASY" in fact!)).
You'll never find that the germans said "stay away from Opera", EVEN THOUGH YOU SAY GERMAN GOV'T. DID ABOVE (pure b.s. OR a mistake on your part, take your pick) - they have never done so, afaik @ least!
(You're either "thick" in the head, an incorrigible TROLL (this is the case imo), or just well... "less than a 10 below plantlife IQ" bearing individual (& please - listen to Alice in Chains & take their advice and "CHECK YOUR BRAIN", or @ least your inability to read... thank you!))... apk
APK
P.S.=> Your information is also SO STALE (considering you posted a very old bug from OPERA 9.23) & OPERA IS CURRENTLY AT VERSION 10.52.3344 as of today, here -> http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/ ... so, so much for "your information being current" (far, Far, FAR FROM IT in fact - what you posted is YEARS OLD on a guess/iirc)... apk
"Then they went on to say that the German government had advised against using version 2.6, which was OLD NEWS and anyone with a brain would know this from reading TFA. As I have one, and did, and know this, which are apparently the differences between me and you... LOL!" - by clone53421 (1310749) on Friday April 02, @10:34AM (#31706202)
WRONG: That says "later this month" & is a "note" ONLY, you fool... THUS, the article IS ABOUT VERSION 3.6 when it was written, & that it had a serious bug! Hence, why Germany warned about using FF to its people... troll, you're not even GOOD @ trolling.
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"LOL, better than a REAL SECURITY FIRM, I guess? Because that is where I got my source" - by clone53421 (1310749) on Friday April 02, @10:51AM (#31706372)
No, YOUR INFO. IS 2 VERSIONS OF OPERA OLD #1, & #2? Your link above (I went thru your posts here in this exchange) & it was from OPERA, here: http://www.opera.com/support/kb/view/865/ when you posted it, here in this exchange -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1591778&cid=31582488
(Man, YOU CAN'T EVEN GET THAT MUCH RIGHT... lol!)
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"Nice try, apk, really nice try... APF is more like it though, because you really are an APril Fool (all year long! ROFL)." - by clone53421 (1310749) on Friday April 02, @10:51AM (#31706372)
Better than yours, so again: CAN YOU TELL US THE TOPIC OF THIS ARTICLE? Clue - IT'S ABOUT GERMANY WARNING ITS PEOPLES NOT TO USE FIREFOX as they did about IE also
"They did come for Opera; they recommended that people stop using it until this latest version patched the security flaw they found" - by clone53421 (1310749) on Thursday April 01, @08:29AM (#31699378) Journal(1310749) on Thursday April 01, @08:29AM (#31699378) Journal
THOSE ARE YOUR OWN WORDS ABOVE STATING THE GERMAN GOV'T. WARNED ITS PEOPLES ABOUT OPERA (which they never did, as they did regarding FF &/or IE, proofs below):
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German government in Firefox warning -> http://www.independent.ie/business/technology/german-government-in-firefox-warning-2107853.html
and
German government warns citizens off IE -> http://www.techradar.com/news/internet/german-government-warns-citizens-off-ie-664181
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SO - once more: Can you show me where German government EVER SAID NOT TO USE OPERA? No, you cannot... even though you said they did (b.s., & this below ALL proves that much easily, with your OWN LYING WORDS no less, easily ("too, Too, TOO EASY" in fact!)).
You'll never find that the germans said "stay away from Opera", EVEN THOUGH YOU SAY GERMAN GOV'T. DID ABOVE (pure b.s. OR a mistake on your part, take your pick) - they have never done so, afaik @ least!
(You're either "thick" in the head, an incorrigible TROLL (this is the case imo), or just well... "less than a 10 below plantlife IQ" bearing individual (& please - listen to Alice in Chains & take their advice and "CHECK YOUR BRAIN", or @ least your inability to read... thank you!))... apk
APK
P.S.=> Your information is also SO STALE (considering you posted a very old bug from OPERA 9.23) & OPERA IS CURRENTLY AT VERSION 10.52.3344 as of today, here -> http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/ ... so, so much for "your information being current" (far, Far, FAR FROM IT in fact - what you posted is YEARS OLD on a guess/iirc)... apk
It’s really quite funny that you want to publicize this spat.
Any sane person could see from this thread that you are clearly batshit insane. And you apparently want people to read it? Why... are you so delusional that you think they’ll agree with you?
Alexander Peter Kristopeit bought his basement from his mommy for one dollar.
"It's really quite funny that you want to publicize this spat." - by clone53421 (1310749) on Friday April 02, @06:46PM (#31710776)
Not sure what you mean by that, but, it's FUNNIER watching you run from answering questions, and to see you running from your own mistakes and outright blunders, here:
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1591778&cid=31706790
Anyone can take a peek at the URL above, and realize you screwed up, so badly (via your own mistakes and words) that all you have now is your b.s. (pretty simple).
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"Any sane person could see from this thread that you are clearly batshit insane" - by clone53421 (1310749) on Friday April 02, @06:46PM (#31710776)
Got a PHD in Psychiatry to your name? No?? Didn't think so. Have you performed a FORMAL TEST on myself, in person, in order to dispense your "prognosis" there, Dr. Quack?? Again, no. All you have is your b.s. & mistakes which I will repost in my p.s. below (just to show anyone reading this what a trolling screwup you are, lol!).
(LMAO - You? You're "too, Too, TOO EASY!")
APK
P.S.=>
"Then they went on to say that the German government had advised against using version 2.6, which was OLD NEWS and anyone with a brain would know this from reading TFA. As I have one, and did, and know this, which are apparently the differences between me and you... LOL!" - by clone53421 (1310749) on Friday April 02, @10:34AM (#31706202)
WRONG: That says "later this month" & is a "note" ONLY, you fool... THUS, the article IS ABOUT VERSION 3.6 when it was written, & that it had a serious bug! Hence, why Germany warned about using FF to its people... troll, you're not even GOOD @ trolling.
I get that "last laugh" on you, BIGTIME (because you shot your mouth off with false information (not to mention constant name tossing & such as well, the SURE SIGN of those defeated by facts & reason in debate no less).
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"LOL, better than a REAL SECURITY FIRM, I guess? Because that is where I got my source" - by clone53421 (1310749) on Friday April 02, @10:51AM (#31706372)
No, YOUR INFO. IS 2 VERSIONS OF OPERA OLD #1, & #2? Your link above (I went thru your posts here in this exchange) & it was from OPERA, here: http://www.opera.com/support/kb/view/865/ when you posted it, here in this exchange -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1591778&cid=31582488
(Man, YOU CAN'T EVEN GET THAT MUCH RIGHT... lol!)
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"Nice try, apk, really nice try... APF is more like it though, because you really are an APril Fool (all year long! ROFL)." - by clone53421 (1310749) on Friday April 02, @10:51AM (#31706372)
Better than yours, so again: CAN YOU TELL US THE TOPIC OF THIS ARTICLE? Clue - IT'S ABOUT GERMANY WARNING ITS PEOPLES NOT TO USE FIREFOX as they did about IE also
"They did come for Opera; they recommended that people stop using it until this latest version patched the security flaw they found" - by clone53421 (1310749) on Thursday April 01, @08:29AM (#31699378) Journal(1310749) on Thursday April 01, @08:29AM (#31699378) Journal
THE QUOTATION ABOVE IS YOUR OWN WORDS ABOVE STATING THE GERMAN GOV'T. WARNED ITS PEOPLES ABOUT OPERA (which they never did, as they did regarding FF &/or IE, proofs below):
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German government in Firefox warning -> http://www.independent.ie/business/technology/german-government-in-firefox-warning-2107853.html
and
German governme
LOL, do you seriously think you can win this argument? You are probably certifiably insane, but I will go ahead and deliver the knockout punch. Again, since you seem to have missed it. You’re like that one guy who insists on biting my head off... if only you had any arms or legs to reach me with.
WRONG: That says "later this month" & is a "note" ONLY, you fool... THUS, the article IS ABOUT VERSION 3.6 when it was written, & that it had a serious bug!
Yes. It was about version 3.6. There was a vulnerability in 3.6. Germany advised against using that version.
And Mozilla released version 3.6.2. The bug is now patched. THE ARTICLE SAID THIS CLEARLY, if you could read.
OLD, OLD news!! and too, TOO easy. try again some other time, apk!
Alexander Peter Kristopeit bought his basement from his mommy for one dollar.
CAN YOU TELL US THE TOPIC OF THIS ARTICLE? Clue - IT'S ABOUT GERMANY WARNING ITS PEOPLES NOT TO USE FIREFOX as they did about IE also
WRONG, IT IS ABOUT FIREFOX RELEASING VERSION 3.6.2 ALMOST A WEEK EARLY. lrn2read, faggot.
Alexander Peter Kristopeit bought his basement from his mommy for one dollar.
"Note: the warning (from the Federal Office for Information Security) is provisional, and should be rendered moot by the release later this month of 3.6.2." - Posted by timothy on Tuesday March 23, @02:51AM from the fuer-ihre-sicherheit dept.
This article was about FF 3.6 having a major bug, & the german gov't. warned its people to use another webbrowser (not IE or FF though) - read the above. Now, what did YOU say it was??
"WRONG, IT IS ABOUT FIREFOX RELEASING VERSION 3.6.2 ALMOST A WEEK EARLY. lrn2read, faggot." - by clone53421 (1310749) on Saturday April 03, @12:51AM (#31713160)by clone53421 (1310749) on Saturday April 03, @12:51AM (#31713160)
Clone the clown: Making YET MORE ERRORS, complete with his usual trolling profanity, & his big mouth wrote more checks his inability to read or understand, cannot ca$h (as usual)... here are more:
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"They released 2.6.2, or are you stuck in the past? - by clone53421 (1310749) on Tuesday March 23, @09:53AM (#31582892) Journal
First of all, see the quote again, from the article itself @ the top of my reply, it is 3.6 the article here on /. was about!
AND? Well - note what version YOU SAID IT WAS?
2.62??
Again - The article is about 3.6, not 3.62 (though they stated, in plain black & white above, that 3.63 would be released in the future/later (at the time of the writing of the article/report here on this website, which was about FF 3.6, not 3.62 & certainly NOT 2.62 as you wrote, lol!)).
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"Then they went on to say that the German government had advised against using version 2.6, which was OLD NEWS and anyone with a brain would know this from reading TFA. As I have one, and did, and know this, which are apparently the differences between me and you... LOL!" - by clone53421 (1310749) on Friday April 02, @10:34AM (#31706202)
WRONG: That says "later this month" & is a "note" ONLY, you fool - once more, see the line I quoted at the top of this reply in fact...
THUS, the article IS ABOUT VERSION 3.6 when it was written, & that it had a serious bug! Hence, why Germany warned about using FF to its people... troll, you're not even GOOD @ trolling.
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"LOL, better than a REAL SECURITY FIRM, I guess? Because that is where I got my source" - by clone53421 (1310749) on Friday April 02, @10:34AM (#31706202)
No, first of all - YOUR INFO. IS MANY MAJOR + MINOR BUILD VERSIONS OF OPERA OLD (9.23 is what you noted, from Opera & not a "security company" as you said, & Opera's up to 10.52.3344 now)
Secondly/#2?
Your link above (I went thru your posts here in this exchange) & it was from OPERA, here: http://www.opera.com/support/kb/view/865/ when you posted it, NOT A "SECURITY COMPANY" as you lied about, earlier here in this exchange -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1591778&cid=31582488
(Man, YOU CAN'T EVEN GET THAT MUCH RIGHT... lol!)
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""Nice try, apk, really nice try... APF is more like it though, because you really are an APril Fool (all year long! ROFL)." - by clone53421 (1310749) on Friday April 02, @10:34AM (#31706202)
Better than yours, so again: CAN YOU TELL US THE TOPIC OF THIS ARTICLE? Clue - IT'S ABOUT GERMANY WARNING ITS PEOPLES NOT TO USE FIREFOX as they did about IE also!
"They did come for Opera; they recommended that people stop using it until this latest version patched the security flaw they found" - by clone53421 (1310749) on Thursday April 01, @08:29AM (#31699378) Journal(1310749) on Thursday April 01, @08:29AM (#31699378) Journal
"Note: the warning (from the Federal Office for Information Security) is provisional, and should be rendered moot by the release later this month of 3.6.2." - Posted by timothy on Tuesday March 23, @02:51AM from the fuer-ihre-sicherheit dept.
This article was about FF 3.6 having a major bug, & the german gov't. warned its people to use another webbrowser (not IE or FF though) - read the above. Now, what did YOU say it was??
"WRONG, IT IS ABOUT FIREFOX RELEASING VERSION 3.6.2 ALMOST A WEEK EARLY. lrn2read, faggot." - by clone53421 (1310749) on Saturday April 03, @12:51AM (#31713160)by clone53421 (1310749) on Saturday April 03, @12:51AM (#31713160)
No, it was about FF version 3.6, which had a bug (not 3.62, it didn't even EXIST @ the time of the writing of this headline here on /., in fact)
and
"And Mozilla released version 3.6.2. The bug is now patched. THE ARTICLE SAID THIS CLEARLY, if you could read." - Posted by timothy on Tuesday March 23, @02:51AM from the fuer-ihre-sicherheit dept.
Oh, I knew that but you said this article was about version 2.62 of FireFox (lol) first!
"They released 2.6.2, or are you stuck in the past?" - by clone53421 (1310749) on Tuesday March 23, @09:53AM (#31582892) Journal
Right there above, LMAO, you said it was ALL ABOUT 2.62, not 3.6 which it actually WAS ABOUT & then later you said it was abou 3.62, which didn't even EXIST publicly yet for folks to use (until the next day iirc)!
The article here was about 3.6, which you FINALLY ADMITTED/GOT CORRECT, BELOW IN A QUOTE NEXT!
"Yes. It was about version 3.6. There was a vulnerability in 3.6. Germany advised against using that version.by clone53421 (1310749) on Friday April 02, @10:28PM (#31712350)
However, the article @ the time of its posting by Timothy was indeed, about 3.6, not 2.62 (lol) as you first said, or, 3.62 as you later stated too!
Which is why the article title was Germany Warns Against Using Firefox, albeit that update to 3.62 only occurred AFTER this article was posted (next day iirc) about version 3.6... which now, you finally admitted next, albeit ONLY AFTER I POINTED THIS OUT TO YOU AND YOUR ERRORS BEFORE IT:
"Yes. It was about version 3.6. There was a vulnerability in 3.6. Germany advised against using that version.by clone53421 (1310749) on Friday April 02, @10:28PM (#31712350)
Clone the clown: Making YET MORE ERRORS, complete with his usual trolling profanity, & his big mouth wrote more checks his inability to read or understand, cannot ca$h (as usual)... here are more:
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"They released 2.6.2, or are you stuck in the past?" - by clone53421 (1310749) on Tuesday March 23, @09:53AM (#31582892) Journal
First of all, see the quote again, from the article itself @ the top of my reply, it is 3.6 the article here on /. was about!
AND? Well - note what version YOU SAID IT WAS?
2.62??
(I'm "stuck in the past"? You are, see the version you said it was about?? Please... & your Opera data?? Version 9.23, & Opera's currently up to 10.52.3344!)
Also - The article is about 3.6, not 3.62 (certainly not 2.62 as you said, though the article here stated, in plain black & white above, that 3.63 would be released in the future/later (at the time of the writing of the article/report here on this website, which was about FF 3.6, not 3.62 & certainly NOT 2.62 as you wrote, lol!)).
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"Then they went on to say that the German government had advised against using version 2.6, which was OLD NEWS and anyone with a brain would know this from reading TFA. As I have one, and did, and know this, which are apparently the differences between me and you... LOL!" - by clone53421
"Note: the warning (from the Federal Office for Information Security) is provisional, and should be rendered moot by the release later this month of 3.6.2." - Posted by timothy on Tuesday March 23, @02:51AM from the fuer-ihre-sicherheit dept.
This article was about FF 3.6 having a major bug, & the german gov't. warned its people to use another webbrowser (not IE or FF though) - read the above. Now, what did YOU say it was??
"WRONG, IT IS ABOUT FIREFOX RELEASING VERSION 3.6.2 ALMOST A WEEK EARLY. lrn2read, faggot." - by clone53421 (1310749) on Saturday April 03, @12:51AM (#31713160)by clone53421 (1310749) on Saturday April 03, @12:51AM (#31713160)
No, Timothy the poster of this article on /. wrote it was about FF version 3.6, which had a bug (not 3.62, it didn't even EXIST @ the time of the writing of this headline here on /., in fact)
and
"And Mozilla released version 3.6.2. The bug is now patched. THE ARTICLE SAID THIS CLEARLY, if you could read." - Posted by timothy on Tuesday March 23, @02:51AM from the fuer-ihre-sicherheit dept.
Oh, I knew that but you said this article was about version 2.62 of FireFox (lol) first!
"They released 2.6.2, or are you stuck in the past?" - by clone53421 (1310749) on Tuesday March 23, @09:53AM (#31582892) Journal
Right there above, LMAO, you said it was ALL ABOUT 2.62, not 3.6 which it actually WAS ABOUT & then later you said it was abou 3.62, which didn't even EXIST publicly yet for folks to use (until the next day iirc)!
The article here was about 3.6, which you FINALLY ADMITTED/GOT CORRECT, BELOW IN A QUOTE NEXT!
"Yes. It was about version 3.6. There was a vulnerability in 3.6. Germany advised against using that version.by clone53421 (1310749) on Friday April 02, @10:28PM (#31712350)
However, the article @ the time of its posting by Timothy was indeed, about 3.6, not 2.62 (lol) as you first said, or, 3.62 as you later stated too!
Which is why the article title was Germany Warns Against Using Firefox, albeit that update to 3.62 only occurred AFTER this article was posted (next day iirc) about version 3.6... which now, you finally admitted next, albeit ONLY AFTER I POINTED THIS OUT TO YOU AND YOUR ERRORS BEFORE IT:
"Yes. It was about version 3.6. There was a vulnerability in 3.6. Germany advised against using that version.by clone53421 (1310749) on Friday April 02, @10:28PM (#31712350)
Clone the clown: Making YET MORE ERRORS, complete with his usual trolling profanity, & his big mouth wrote more checks his inability to read or understand, cannot ca$h (as usual)... here are more:
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"They released 2.6.2, or are you stuck in the past?" - by clone53421 (1310749) on Tuesday March 23, @09:53AM (#31582892) Journal
First of all, see the quote again, from the article itself @ the top of my reply, it is 3.6 the article here on /. was about!
AND? Well - note what version YOU SAID IT WAS?
2.62??
(I'm "stuck in the past"? You are, see the version you said it was about?? Please... & your Opera data?? Version 9.23, & Opera's currently up to 10.52.3344!)
Also - The article is about 3.6, not 3.62 (certainly not 2.62 as you said, though the article here stated, in plain black & white above, that 3.63 would be released in the future/later (at the time of the writing of the article/report here on this website, which was about FF 3.6, not 3.62 & certainly NOT 2.62 as you wrote, lol!)).
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"Then they went on to say that the German government had advised against using version 2.6, which was OLD NEWS and anyone with a brain would know this from reading TFA. As I have one, and did, and know this, which are ap
LOL, do you seriously think you can win this argument? - by clone53421 (1310749)
on Friday April 02, @10:28PM (#31712350)
You helped him win it with your numerous mistakes Clone which are all quoted here http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1591778&cid=31715984 Clone. You are helping him win because you said it was about Firefox 2.62 (and the quote from Timothy's news post said 3.62 didn't even exist yet but would soon), and the article was about 3.6 originally also. You also stated that the German government warned to not use Opera, and that was also captured in a quote in the link above too, but they never did that either Clone. The German government has thusfar said that about Firefox and Internet Explorer, but never Opera. You lost badly clone. I followed this from the Apple discussion and where I saw a link on this http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1605260&threshold=-1&commentsort=0&mode=thread&pid=31712982 and you made a load of mistakes clone which were pointed out there in a reply to you.
WRONG, IT IS ABOUT FIREFOX RELEASING VERSION 3.6.2 ALMOST A WEEK EARLY. lrn2read, faggot. - by clone53421 (1310749)
on Saturday April 03, @12:51AM (#31713160)
"Germany Warns Against Using Firefox" was the article title clone53421. You are incorrect. The article poster Timothy at the time of his writing was writing about Firefox 3.6 also. You are in error clone53421. I saw this in a reply to one of your postings about Apple http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1605260&cid=31711588 and followed it and your other posts to this one where you are now just stooping to the lowest low in name calling someone that clearly has gotten the better of you due to your errors such as your stating this was about Firefox 2.62 (it's not, it is about Firefox 3.6 having had a security error in it) and later you said it is about 3.6.2 above? The first post by Timothy shows otherwise and it notes that 3.62 will be released later this month (which it was the next day). You also stated you got Opera vulnerabilities errors from a security site, but you got it from Opera itself and for a very old version in 9.23 which is years old now and Opera is now into its 10.52.x build series. Your name calling though, to myself reading at least, that is the signal that you have lost here and that you are only trolling by this point and further making errors on your part.
WRONG, IT IS ABOUT FIREFOX RELEASING VERSION 3.6.2 ALMOST A WEEK EARLY. lrn2read, faggot. - by clone53421 (1310749)
on Saturday April 03, @12:51AM (#31713160)
You are in error clone53421. "Germany Warns Against Using Firefox" was the article title clone53421. You are incorrect and quite badly so. The article poster Timothy at the time of his writing was writing about Firefox 3.6 also. I saw this in a reply to one of your postings about Apple http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1605260&cid=31711588 and I followed it and your other posts to this one where you are now just stooping to the lowest low in name calling someone that clearly has gotten the better of you due to your errors such as your stating this was about Firefox 2.62 (it's not, it is about Firefox 3.6 having had a security error in it) and later you said it is about 3.6.2 above? The first post by Timothy shows otherwise and it notes that 3.62 will be released later this month (which it was the next day). You also stated you got Opera vulnerabilities errors from a security site, but you got it from Opera itself and for a very old version in 9.23 which is years old now and Opera is now into its 10.52.x build series. Your name calling though, to myself reading at least, that is the signal that you have lost here and that you are only trolling by this point and making even more errors on your part.
"Hey, are you the same loser that believes it is appropriate to abuse the hosts file as a security measure?" - by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 03, @03:17PM (#31717934)
I believe they are effective in security, yes (and for speed gains as well)... & per my subject-line above? Well, so does someone who works for SECURITYFOCUS.COM (a respected site for computer security no less). See this quote:
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RESURRECTING THE KILLFILE:
(by Mr. Oliver Day)
http://www.securityfocus.com/columnists/491
PERTINENT EXCERPTS/QUOTES:
"The host file on my day-to-day laptop is now over 16,000 lines long. Accessing the Internet particularly browsing the Web is actually faster now."
"From what I have seen in my research, major efforts to share lists of unwanted hosts began gaining serious momentum earlier this decade. The most popular appear to have started as a means to block advertising and as a way to avoid being tracked by sites that use cookies to gather data on the user across Web properties. More recently, projects like Spybot Search and Destroy offer lists of known malicious servers to add a layer of defense against trojans and other forms of malware."
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And, per his quote? Well, so do the folks @ SPYBOT "SEARCH & DESTROY" (a known & respected antispyware program).
(So, how's THAT MUCH suit you?)
Additionally, per a security guide I wrote up that is over 350,000++ views strong online across 15 forums I put it onto (late 2007 I did it) & that even got me PAID for writing it up, and has been rated "5/5 stars" on 15 of the forums its on, OR, it has been made an "ESSENTIAL GUIDE" on them (or both combined), and also usually it's in those forums "MOST VIEWED POSTS" as well too!
Here are some testimonials to its efficacy (and specifically on HOSTS files no less from 1 of the repliers):
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http://www.xtremepccentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=28430
PERTINENT QUOTES/EXCERPTS:
http://www.xtremepccentral.com/forums/show...8430&page=2
"APK, thanks for such a great guide. This would, and should, be an inspiration to such security measures. Also, the pc that has "tweaks": IS STILL GOING! NO PROBLEMS!" (04/2008)
"...recently, months ago when you finally got this guide done, had authorization to try this on simple work station for kids. My client, who paid me an ungodly amount of money to do this, has been PROBLEM FREE FOR MONTHS! I haven't even had a follow up call which is unusual. Now I don't recommend this for the average joe, but it if can work for a kids PC it can work for anything!"
and
http://www.xtremepccentral.com/forums/show...8430&page=3
"Its 2009 - still trouble free! I was told last week by a co worker who does active directory administration, and he said I was doing overkill. I told him yes, but I just eliminated the half life in windows that you usually get. He said good point. So from 2008 till 2009. No speed decreases, its been to a lan party, moved around in a move, and it still NEVER has had the OS reinstalled besides the fact I imaged the drive over in 2008. Great stuff! My client STILL Hasn't called me back in regards to that one machine to get it locked down for the kid. I am glad it worked and I am sure her wallet is appreciated too now that it works. Speaking of which, I need to call her to see if I can get some leads. APK - I will say it again, the guide is FANTASTIC! Its made my PC experience much easier. Sandboxing was great. Getting my host file updated, setting services to system service, rather than system local. (except AVG updater, needed system local)"
Thronka - forums member @ xtremepccentral.com
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1591778&cid=31718308
You called him a loser but he put up a decent set of things he has to his credit in computers. He asks you to show him you have done the same. You have not based on your lack of response on that account. His body of evidence as to why and how hosts files work for both speed and security along with his backing documentations and evidences from both regular end users who used his security guide as well as people from securityfocus.com and the likes of Spybot did the rest it seems, as your name calling tactics, which I felt were childish and pointless, only blew up in your face. Better luck next time.
The very first sentence, in bold print, of the article, which I already quoted numerous times, read as follows:
Your absurd ignorance is revealed in your utterly hopeless confusion over versions “3.6” and “3.62” (it is actually 3.6.2). My mistake in quoting version 2.6.2 was simply a typo; I meant 3.6.2. The vulnerability was in version 3.6 and as was clearly stated in the summary:
— which, as was clearly stated in the article, already happened (not “later this month”) — again from TFA:
So you were fully wrong, and with the exception of my typo of 2.6.2 when I should have written 3.6.2, I am correct.
Alexander Peter Kristopeit bought his basement from his mommy for one dollar.
We all know it’s you, APK.
Alexander Peter Kristopeit bought his basement from his mommy for one dollar.
Total score of my recent posting history: 62 points
Total score of your replies to those same posts: -7
LOL, so who’s winning, hmm troll?
Alexander Peter Kristopeit bought his basement from his mommy for one dollar.
Funny how you had to shut up though.
What is the title of the article? See subject line above. What version of Firefox were they talking about?? Not 2.62 like you first said, but 3.6. Additionally, not even the 3.62 build, like you later said either. You are really, REALLY pitiful... you know that?
Also - Where is it that you saw where Germany warned against using Firefox?? A security company's site like you said???
B.S. - lmao, not only did you LIE about that much (or, screw up rather), BUT, you cited a bug in Opera, albeit, a way, Way, WAY old version in 9.23 (like 4 years old version I'd wager at a guess). You? You don't have the INTELLECT to "get the better of me", nor the accomplishments in this science either... that much is NOW clear to see as well.
APK
You blew it here, totally... lmao, w/ your FIRST saying that it was "Firefox 2.62" they were speaking of here, when it was 3.6 (with a security bug no less), & then, after I pointed it out to you that the article is about FF 3.6, then you admitted that much.
Listen, I could understand IF you were dyslexic (or otherwise f'd up in the head), but... you're nothing but a screwup troll who got his butt handed to him, courtesy of YOURS TRULY (which is "no big task", never is, especially around THIS place - most of the "no minds" around here are like you - mere "wannabes")
LMAO!
Just saying it, how it is... that's all!
APK
Yea, ok... tell us where GERMANY said to avoid Opera, as you said they did... ok?
(LOL, you're literally an AMUSEMENT for me, in seeing just truly how STUPID some people can really be... that's all.)
I must ask you a question though: Do you actually POSSESS a degree in computer science or computer information systems (CSC or CIS)??
Somehow? LOL, I rather STRONGLY doubt it... you can't even READ correctly: This article on /.? It was about FireFox 3.6 (not "2.62" like you first said, lol, (hilarious), or even 3.62 which issued a day later, albeit AFTER this article came out).
I can understand IF you have dyslexia - that really might NOT be your fault, as it may explain your rather moronic lack of reading comprehension though... but, somehow? I think (no, I KNOW) that you're nothing but another "wannabe" around here that has never accomplished anything of note in this art & science, and that you NEVER will (simply because you have the intellect of roughly, a carrot @ best/most).
LMAO!
NOW - Care to show us where GERMANY said to AVOID OPERA? (As YOU said they said?? LOL, they never EVER did... they only did so, for FF &/or IE!)
APK
P.S. => Dolt: Realize 1 thing - in this art & science? You're WASTING YOUR TIME - you're clearly NOT intelligent enough to be part of it... get it?? apk
"I NEVER said 2.62; I incorrectly said 2.6.2 "- by clone53421 (1310749)
on Saturday April 03, @08:52PM (#31720138)/quote?
Does it matter? You fucked up, period, moron. The article was about Firefox version 3.6, not 2.62 like you said dimwit, and the updated version that corrected the security flaw wasn't released until this article had been up for a day or so. You make the rest of us /. people look as stupid as you are, so do us a favor troll - go away. Go back to "rebo school" where you belong.
I just popped in here and had to comment after watching you try to play expert in the Apple thread, and let me tell you: You got your ass handed to you here. The article is about security errors in Firefox 3.6, not 2.6 like you initially said, and not even about 3.3.6.2 or the now current *.3 build of firefox. You also said you obtained data that said to stay away from Opera, as the germans have said about Internet Explorer and Firefox and you said it was from a security site? That's a lie. You cited Opera itself, and a very old version of it in Opera 9.23 idiot. What is it like being as stupid and arrogant as yourself, with no shame? You got your ass kicked in badly here for trolling your betters, and you have the nerve to try to fool others reading here like myself, when you massively messed up? Please. Grow up loser. Get an education or degree in this science before you try to play expert, you wannabe. Quit being a stupid fuck above everything else you dull moron.
I merely pointed out all of your mistakes. You can't handle the fact you tried to troll someone far better than yourself at computing and lost badly due to your blatant and outrageously stupid mistakes is all. I'll give you a piece of advice though. Don't go saying things that aren't true, as you said that Germany or others said to stay away from Opera, as they did for IE and FF. Also don't say you quoted a security company when you did anything but that. Truth is, your lies made you look very stupid.
If anyone's pathetic here, it is you beyotch. You used old data on Opera 9.23 and it didn't come from a security company like you stated you dumb fuck. It came from Opera, and it's years old no less. You said this article was about firefox 2.6x and it was about 3.6 and you later had to concede to the ac that you it was indeed about that version not the later one you said later in 3.6x and what not. You're nothing but a pitiful little forums moron who will never do anything with his life, because you have to resort to lies and misinformation and you think other people are stupid. I came in here from the Apple thread where this was all pointed out to me and I have to agree with others here in that you are one stupid fucking troll.
What explains your moronic insistence that Firefox version 3.62 even exists? Hmm? It’s 3.6.2, dumbass.
Alexander Peter Kristopeit bought his basement from his mommy for one dollar.
"My karma and the moderation on my posts proves that you're full of shit" - by clone53421 (1310749) on Sunday April 04, @04:24PM (#31726676)
Newsflash - see subject-line above: Do you really think you are fooling anyone with that b.s.?
(Especially after you wrote this was about "FireFox 2.62", which I quoted per your first reply here, and after you refuse the admit the topic of the article is what Germany said (stay away from Firefox 3.6 & before that, Internet Explorer)).
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"you shitty 60-something year old troll" - by clone53421 (1310749) on Sunday April 04, @04:24PM (#31726676)
Actually I am quite a bit shy of 60 (like 15 yrs.)... & your constant "name tossing" directed MY way here? That only goes to further prove my statements above is all... you are "geek angst FrUsTrAtEd" into it, because you haven't accomplished anything of note in this art & science of computing (and you never will) that others noted as good is all, as I have numerous times (doubtless while you were still in diapers in this life probably would be my guess, & starting from my 2nd yr. out of collegiate academia no less in doing so).
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"who still lives with his mommy" - by clone53421 (1310749) on Sunday April 04, @04:24PM (#31726676)
Nope, sorry to disappoint you on that account: I have my own spot, & my name's on the title no less!
(So do us a favor on your "predictions", & don't go and pick anyone's lotto numbers for them, ok? That's because "your esp is 'down' lately" (not that it's EVER "up", lol!)).
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"and makes all sorts of money on his shitty software that looks like something a 12-year old wrote." - by clone53421 (1310749) on Sunday April 04, @04:24PM (#31726676)
You mean stuff that went to Microsoft Tech Ed, or became part of successfully sold commercial wares by Microsoft Certified Partners? You mean wares that made many respectable trade mags in this field too?? Above all else - You mean things that are of the like that the "likes of you" will NEVER achieve anything like them???
LMAO!
APK
P.S.=> "too, Too, TOO EASY!"... too easy! apk
See subject-line, & this set of 2 "choice quotes" from you:
"What explains your moronic insistence that Firefox version 3.62 even exists? Hmm? It's 3.6.2, dumbass" - by clone53421 (1310749) on Sunday April 04, @04:23PM (#31726658
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1591778&cid=31582892
"They released 2.6.2, or are you stuck in the past? - by clone53421 (1310749) on Tuesday March 23, @09:53AM (#31582892) Journal
LMAO, see the above quote first, & THEN? THEN SEE THIS ONE about "living in the past", making HUGE errors, & 'FireFox 2.62', lol!
Please - wait: IT GETS BETTER (as far as "living in the past"):
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1591778&cid=31582488
"Yes, because Opera has never had this sort of vulnerability! http://www.opera.com/support/kb/view/865/" - by clone53421 (1310749)
on Tuesday March 23, @09:27AM (#31582488) Journal
Which is about OPERA 9.23, which is HOW MANY YEARS OUT OF DATE NOW?
APK
P.S.=> You also stated you got your information from a "SECURITY COMPANY", about Opera - but, lol, that doesn't look like a security company's site to me. It looks like Opera's site in fact, lmao... getting a bit "rattled in your game", or are you just one of those illiterate "10 below plantlife IQ" types?
(Additionally, YOU also that german gov't. said to stay away from Opera too... so, where did the germans say that, as they have regarding IE or FF?)...
Again: "too, Too, TOO EASY!"... just TOO easy! apk
Didn't say it was Firefox 2.62 this was about? Even though the article is about GERMANY WARNING ITS PEOPLE TO STAY AWAY FROM FIREFOX 3.6 (as they did about IE before that too)?? Ah, too easy:
See subject-line, & this set of 2 "choice quotes" from you:
"What explains your moronic insistence that Firefox version 3.62 even exists? Hmm? It's 3.6.2, dumbass" - by clone53421 (1310749) on Sunday April 04, @04:23PM (#31726658
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1591778&cid=31582892
"They released 2.6.2, or are you stuck in the past? - by clone53421 (1310749) on Tuesday March 23, @09:53AM (#31582892) Journal
LMAO, see the above quote first, & THEN? THEN SEE THIS ONE about "living in the past", making HUGE errors, & 'FireFox 2.62', lol!
Please - wait: IT GETS BETTER (as far as "living in the past"):
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1591778&cid=31582488
"Yes, because Opera has never had this sort of vulnerability! http://www.opera.com/support/kb/view/865/" - by clone53421 (1310749) on Tuesday March 23, @09:27AM (#31582488) Journal
Which is about OPERA 9.23, which is HOW MANY YEARS OUT OF DATE NOW? Also, didn't you state you found data from a security site that said "stay away from Opera" that is CURRENT NEWS (as of the time of this article's being put up here on /.?)... so, where is that?? Oh, it DOESN'T EXIST!
LOL, you either LIE, or make so many mistakes and I caught you in them that you are forced into "name tossing" like some frustrated child.
APK
P.S.=> Your name tossing directed my way is NOT helping you by the by, it's only showing your "geek angst" frustrated tantrums is all... apk
Didn't say it was Firefox 2.62 this was about? Even though the article is about GERMANY WARNING ITS PEOPLE TO STAY AWAY FROM FIREFOX 3.6 (as they did about IE before that too)?? Ah, too easy:
See subject-line, & this set of 2 "choice quotes" from you:
"What explains your moronic insistence that Firefox version 3.62 even exists? Hmm? It's 3.6.2, dumbass" - by clone53421 (1310749) on Sunday April 04, @04:23PM (#31726658
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1591778&cid=31582892
"They released 2.6.2, or are you stuck in the past? - by clone53421 (1310749) on Tuesday March 23, @09:53AM (#31582892) Journal
LMAO, see the above quote first, & THEN? THEN SEE THIS ONE about "living in the past", making HUGE errors, & 'FireFox 2.62', lol!
Please - wait: IT GETS BETTER (as far as "living in the past"):
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1591778&cid=31582488
"Yes, because Opera has never had this sort of vulnerability! http://www.opera.com/support/kb/view/865/" - by clone53421 (1310749) on Tuesday March 23, @09:27AM (#31582488) Journal
Which is about OPERA 9.23, which is HOW MANY YEARS OUT OF DATE NOW? Also, didn't you state you found data from a security site that said "stay away from Opera" that is CURRENT NEWS (as of the time of this article's being put up here on /.?)... so, where is that?? Oh, it DOESN'T EXIST!
(Man - LOL, you either LIE, or make so many mistakes and I caught you in them that you are forced into "name tossing" like some frustrated child!)
APK
P.S.=> Your name tossing directed my way all over this exchange? Hey, that is NOT helping you by the by, it's only showing your "geek angst" frustrated tantrums is all... apk
making HUGE errors, & 'FireFox 2.62', lol!
I never said “2.62”. You are the one making HUGE errors, LOL.
Alexander Peter Kristopeit bought his basement from his mommy for one dollar.
ANYONE can do it?? NOT SO EASY, apparently, if YOU cannot do it! LOL
Alexander Peter Kristopeit bought his basement from his mommy for one dollar.
"I never said "2.62". You are the one making HUGE errors, LOL" - by clone53421 (1310749) on Sunday April 04, @11:01PM (#31729606
You made an error, right from the start, that led to yet another error (or was it a LIE about getting data on Opera from a "SECURITY COMPANY"? You got an OLD ERROR on Opera 9.23, from years ago, FROM OPERA'S WEBSITE - not a security company as you said & tried to pass off as current no less)... anyhow, on FireFox? Well, this is your statements (that made you have to "eat your words" on "living in the past", which was funny):
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1591778&cid=31582892
"They released 2.6.2, or are you stuck in the past?" - by clone53421 (1310749) on Tuesday March 23, @09:53AM (#31582892) Journal
LMAO, see the above quote first, & THEN? THEN SEE THIS ONE about "living in the past", making HUGE errors, & 'FireFox 2.6.2', lol!
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1591778&cid=31582488
"Yes, because Opera has never had this sort of vulnerability! http://www.opera.com/support/kb/view/865/ " - by clone53421 (1310749) on Tuesday March 23, @09:27AM (#31582488) Journal
Which is about OPERA 9.23, which is HOW MANY YEARS OUT OF DATE NOW? Also, didn't you state you found data from a security site that said "stay away from Opera" that is CURRENT NEWS (as of the time of this article's being put up here on /.?)... so, where is that?? Oh, it DOESN'T EXIST!
(Man - LOL, you either LIE, or make so many mistakes and I caught you in them that you are forced into "name tossing" like some frustrated child!)
APK
P.S.=> Your name tossing directed my way all over this exchange? Hey, that is NOT helping you either, by the by, it's only showing your "geek angst" frustrated tantrums is all... apk
HUGE errors, & 'FireFox 2.62', lol!
I never said that. You are a moron. But I wouldn’t expect much more from you... lies, false information, and retarded arguments that are repeated over and over after they are proved to be faulty.
You also stated you got your information from a "SECURITY COMPANY", about Opera - but, lol, that doesn't look like a security company's site to me. It looks like Opera's site in fact
My quote from the security company was elsewhere. I dare you to find it! Since you are so good at saying what I did and didn’t say, that should be an easy task for you...
getting a bit "rattled in your game", or are you just one of those illiterate "10 below plantlife IQ" types?
No, that’s YOU, LOL... keep trying, apk!!
Alexander Peter Kristopeit bought his basement from his mommy for one dollar.
HOW ON EARTH DO YOU EXPLAIN BEING MODDED UP THEN, FOR THESE MISTAKES YOU MADE:
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1591778&cid=31582892
"They released 2.6.2, or are you stuck in the past? - by clone53421 (1310749) on Tuesday March 23, @09:53AM (#31582892) Journal
LMAO, see the above quote first, & THEN? THEN SEE THIS ONE about "living in the past", making HUGE errors, & 'FireFox 2.62', lol!
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1591778&cid=31582488
"Yes, because Opera has never had this sort of vulnerability! http://www.opera.com/support/kb/view/865/" - by clone53421 (1310749)
on Tuesday March 23, @09:27AM (#31582488) Journal
Which is about OPERA 9.23, which is HOW MANY YEARS OUT OF DATE NOW?
Didn't you also say you got your data on that OLD bug, from a "SECURITY COMPANY"??
(Doesn't look that way to me, it's from Opera's site, besides being way, Way, WAY OLD too, lol, and FAR FROM CURRENT (as of the date of this article being put up here on /.))...
APK
P.S.=> "too, Too, TOO EASY!"... just TOO easy! apk
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1591778&cid=31582892
"They released 2.6.2, or are you stuck in the past? - by clone53421 (1310749) on Tuesday March 23, @09:53AM (#31582892) Journal
LMAO, see the above quote first, & THEN? THEN SEE THIS ONE about "living in the past", making HUGE errors, & 'FireFox 2.62', lol!
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1591778&cid=31582488
"Yes, because Opera has never had this sort of vulnerability! http://www.opera.com/support/kb/view/865/" - by clone53421 (1310749)
on Tuesday March 23, @09:27AM (#31582488) Journal
Which is about OPERA 9.23, which is HOW MANY YEARS OUT OF DATE NOW? Didn't you also say you got your data on that OLD bug, from a "SECURITY COMPANY"?? Doesn't look that way to me, it's from Opera's site, besides being way, Way, WAY OLD too, lol, and FAR FROM CURRENT (as of the date of this article being put up here on /.)...
APK
P.S.=> "too, Too, TOO EASY!": Just TOO easy! apk
Apparently mods don’t make a big issue over a single accidental typo. But comparing my single typo to your constant trolling and bad karma (you won’t even register an account, because you hit bad karma so quickly... as you have done in the past)? LOL! Good try, apk, really good try!
Alexander Peter Kristopeit bought his basement from his mommy for one dollar.
Wow, are you really that stupid? I just said I quoted the security company elsewhere. Go find it, LOL! Since you are the expert on what I said. - by clone53421 (1310749) on Monday April 05, @10:36AM (#31733644)
Where is it? PROVE YOU POSTED A CURRENT SECURITY VULNERABILITY IN OPERA FROM A SECURITY SITE THEN (current as of the date of this article)... lol, you posted a bug in Opera alright, years old from version 9.23, not the current 10.52.xxxx series.
(You've been avoiding that the ENTIRE TIME, because you know you made a mistake... unless you can prove otherwise!)
APK
P.S.=> After all, you said I can't read? Well, apparently, you can't - because you were asked by myself, repeatedly, to show us your "security company" information that showed Opera had a security vulnerability known & present @ the time this article was put up here -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1591778&cid=31706746 (That's just ONE OF MANY where you avoid proving you found Opera had a bug as of the time of this Germany Warns Against Using Firefox article posting on /. , because imo & so far by your lack of producing your proof? You are avoiding backing up your outright b.s.... period! apk
"No, I got a recent quote from a security/tech website about OPERA VERSION 10.50 in which they recommended NOT USING IT." - by clone53421 (1310749) on Monday April 05, @11:42AM (#31734568)
PROVE IT - Funny, because the only error you posted was your first reply, but that was about Opera 9.23 (very, VERY old version - as the ABSOLUTELY current Opera build is 10.52.3344, as of this date)
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"I posted it elsewhere in the discussion on this very article" - by clone53421 (1310749) on Monday April 05, @11:42AM (#31734568)
Once more, where is it? You've been asked this, repeatedly, and you continue to AVOID IT LIKE MAD (because you either lied, or made a mistake and you KNOW it)
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"now since you're so good at mis-quoting me you can see if you can find it.:by clone53421 (1310749)" - by clone53421 (1310749) on Monday April 05, @11:42AM (#31734568)
This is NO "misquote": It's your own words, in plain black & white, where you said you had "SECURITY COMPANY INFO" and yet you posted about an OLD VERSION OF OPERA:
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1591778&cid=31582488
"Yes, because Opera has never had this sort of vulnerability! http://www.opera.com/support/kb/view/865/" - by clone53421 (1310749)
on Tuesday March 23, @09:27AM (#31582488) Journal
Which is about OPERA 9.23, which is HOW MANY YEARS OUT OF DATE NOW?
APK
P.S.=> What are your result? Well, what many /.'ers here call an "EPIC FAIL"... or, can you disprove what you wrote above? Apparently not... keep calling me names, or lying as you have been (making mistakes no doubt & trying to "cover up" your screw up by avoiding answering up to your mistakes now)... but, no matter what you do now?? YOU LOSE... "too, Too, TOO EASY!"... apk
Fine, since you’re such an incompetent idiot that you can’t seem to find a post that I posted IN RESPONSE TO YOUR POST, which you OBVIOUSLY DID NOT READ... LOL, and you are still trying to argue with me after CLEARLY NOT READING what I have posted? And you accused ME of skimming and lying! LOL!
Here is the link to the post that you failed to find:
http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1591778&cid=31582542
Alexander Peter Kristopeit bought his basement from his mommy for one dollar.
See subject-line above, & then, 10.52's been out from Opera as well - BEFORE THE TIME OF THIS ARTICLE ON SLASHDOT NO LESS... so, so much for your "current info."!
APK
P.S.=> Now, can you show us where GERMAN GOV'T. SAID TO AVOID FIREFOX, as they did of both FireFox &/or IE?
After all, the person I responded to, Beezelbud, said this:
"First they came for IE, and I didn't speak up because I didn't use IE. Then they came for Firefox, and I didn't speak up because I didn't use Firefox." - by Beelzebud (1361137)
on Tuesday March 23, @03:16AM (#31580262)
To which I stated "they never came for Opera" in my 1st reply here... that's all. Then, you said "they" did (they being Germany of course)... well, where did Germany do that? They didn't & you said this, avoiding it:
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1591778&cid=31704426
"I already said I don't give half a worm-eaten turd what the German government said." - by Beelzebud (1361137) on Tuesday March 23, @03:16AM (#31580262)
I do, based on my reply to Beezelbud (which was my first here)... apk
See subject-line above, & then, 10.52's been out from Opera as well - BEFORE THE TIME OF THIS ARTICLE ON SLASHDOT NO LESS... so, so much for your "current info."!
APK
P.S.=> Now, can you show us where GERMAN GOV'T. SAID TO AVOID FIREFOX, as they did of both FireFox &/or IE?
After all, the person I responded to, Beezelbud, said this:
"First they came for IE, and I didn't speak up because I didn't use IE. Then they came for Firefox, and I didn't speak up because I didn't use Firefox." - by Beelzebud (1361137)
on Tuesday March 23, @03:16AM (#31580262)
To which I stated "they never came for Opera" in my 1st reply here... that's all. Then, you said "they" did (they being Germany of course)... well, where did Germany do that? They didn't & you said this, avoiding it:
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1591778&cid=31704426
"I already said I don't give half a worm-eaten turd what the German government said." - by Beelzebud (1361137) on Tuesday March 23, @03:16AM (#31580262)
I do, based on my reply to Beezelbud (which was my first here)... apk
Did you say Firefox has version 2.6.2 out? Yes, you did (which is incorrect)
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1591778&cid=31582892
"They released 2.6.2, or are you stuck in the past? - by clone53421 (1310749) on Tuesday March 23, @09:53AM (#31582892) Journal
Did you write that, or not?
APK
P.S.=> Answer is YES you did... you screwed up on that, AND THE FACT THAT OPERA ALREADY HAD versions 10.51 & 10.52 builds out already by the time this article was put up on slashdot... so thus, your "security company" info. WAS STALE & OUT OF DATE - period! apk
Opera 10.51 was out already -> http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/
On a roll: Opera 10.51 for Windows released
By Haavard. Monday, 22. March 2010, 10:00:00
On March 22nd in fact - WHICH PREDATES THIS ARTICLE ON SLASHDOT NO LESS, because this news was posted on /. on March 23rd (& a firefox fix didn't issue until the next day)...
(So much for your "current information" from your "SECURITY COMPANY", eh? Too bad it was STALE ALREADY, lol!)
APK
P.S.=> Man, I just GOTTA say it again, for 'posterities' sake' -> "too, Too, TOO EASY"... just TOO easy (to get the better of "the likes of you" a name-tosser & someone in yourself who attempts to spread "FUD" via falsehoods, your mistakes, & YOUR STALE OUT OF DATE INFORMATION)... apk
Opera 10.51 was out already -> http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/
On a roll: Opera 10.51 for Windows released
By Haavard. Monday, 22. March 2010, 10:00:00
On March 22nd in fact - WHICH PREDATES THIS ARTICLE ON SLASHDOT NO LESS, because this news was posted on /. on March 23rd (& a firefox fix didn't issue until the next day)...
(So much for your "current information" from your "SECURITY COMPANY", eh? Too bad it was STALE ALREADY, lol!)
APK
P.S.=> Man, I just GOTTA say it again, for 'posterities' sake' -> "too, Too, TOO EASY"... just TOO easy (to get the better of "the likes of you" a name-tosser & someone in yourself who attempts to spread "FUD" via falsehoods, your mistakes, & YOUR STALE OUT OF DATE INFORMATION)... apk
LOL, very, VERY lofty claims for someone who writes SPYWARE!
Yes, that’s right, as quoted on MANY sources:
http://www.spywaredb.com/remove-apkapp2backgrounddaemonprocessengine/
http://www.pestpatrol.com/zks/pestinfo/a/apkapp2backgrounddaemonprocessengine.asp
http://www.spycheck.co.uk/genera.php?processfile=apkapp2backgrounddaemonprocessengine.exe&dir=a&pag=50
http://www.ca.com/us/securityadvisor/pest/pest.aspx?id=51276 ...& many, MANY more!! LOL
Alexander Peter Kristopeit bought his basement from his mommy for one dollar.
"LOL, and THE FACT THAT FIREFOX ALREADY HAD version 3.6.2 out already by the time this article was put up on slashdot as well?" - by clone53421 (1310749) on Monday April 05, @12:45PM (#31735520)
AND, what did the news poster TIMOTHY WRITE? Well, ok, another quote of proof:
"Note: the warning (from the Federal Office for Information Security) is provisional, and should be rendered moot by the release later this month of 3.6.2. - Posted by timothy on Tuesday March 23, @02:51AM
Note the BOLD part? FF didn't release a fix on time, & it came later on... simple!
(Learn to READ man, & make sure your information ISN'T STALE (which, it was... too bad for you!))
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"I said that ONCE, lol, and it was a TYPO (do you know the meaning of the word?)" - by clone53421 (1310749) on Monday April 05, @12:45PM (#31735520)
I sure do - you illustrated it, "beautifully", lol... see below:
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1591778&cid=31582892
"They released 2.6.2, or are you stuck in the past? - by clone53421 (1310749) on Tuesday March 23, @09:53AM (#31582892) Journal
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LMAO, see the above quote first, & THEN? THEN SEE THIS ONE about "living in the past", making HUGE errors, & 'FireFox 2.62', lol!
Please - wait: IT GETS BETTER (as far as "living in the past"):
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1591778&cid=31582488
"Yes, because Opera has never had this sort of vulnerability! http://www.opera.com/support/kb/view/865/" - by clone53421 (1310749)
on Tuesday March 23, @09:27AM (#31582488) Journal
Which is about OPERA 9.23, which is HOW MANY YEARS OUT OF DATE NOW?
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AND, of course (as to your "current security company information" (not))?
Opera 10.51 was out already -> http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/
On a roll: Opera 10.51 for Windows released
By Haavard. Monday, 22. March 2010, 10:00:00
On March 22nd in fact - WHICH PREDATES THIS ARTICLE ON SLASHDOT NO LESS, because this news was posted on /. on March 23rd (& a firefox fix didn't issue until the next day)...
(So much for your "current information" from your "SECURITY COMPANY", eh? Too bad it was STALE ALREADY, lol!)
APK
P.S.=> Man, I just GOTTA say it again, for 'posterities' sake' -> "too, Too, TOO EASY"... just TOO easy (to get the better of "the likes of you" a name-tosser & someone in yourself who attempts to spread "FUD" via falsehoods, your mistakes, & YOUR STALE OUT OF DATE INFORMATION)... apk
"LOL, very, VERY lofty claims for someone who writes SPYWARE!" - by clone53421 (1310749) on Monday April 05, @12:53PM (#31735632)
Why change the subject now? Oh, & on THAT note??
Well, I wrote those sites, & they got their information from Computer Associates, whom I also contacted & with Mr. Greg Jensen no less (head of their security suite's development)...
My ware shows as NO THREAT LEVELS (zero) there, and it failed NONE of their 21 question "removal test" criteria either, to have it removed!
Yes, you have to go thru that too, as a software dev (which apparently, you are not).
I also spoke to an attorney in that regard no less, & he stated:
"You have a winning case, but, they'd drag it out in court for a decade, exceeding my percentage of the award, making it not worth my time or rather costs in pursuing it" & he estimated it to be worth $150,000 U.S. Dollars, for libel.
So you know:
The same has happened to Dr. Mark Russinovich, & Nir Sofer of NIRSOFT (write this 2nd fellow especially - he is OUTRAGED by it, & I used to be, but not anymore - I passed all of CA's tests, & they lowered the alleged "threat level" of my app to ZERO).
I wrote it to help out a guy on some forums in the "olden days", when Apache ran not as a service, but as an app (& he couldn't STAND THAT, so it was easy to write up a program to spawn any process that uses a visible hWnd to do so, albeit, invisibly (almost as "light" as a service process that way, because no visible windows have to be "painted" on the screen device context).
Not even a "NICE TRY", because what's in my P.S.? BLOWS YOU AWAY, too easily! See below...
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NOW, for a "guy who writes spyware" as you say I do? Well... funny: My work & ideas went to Microsoft TECH ED, 2 yrs. in a ROW no less, as a FINALIST in their hardest category there: SQLServer Performance Enhancement... & I've been cited as doing nice work from many respected trade mags & such (newspapers & books too), while you were STILL IN DIAPERS I wager also... see below:
"My Name is Ozymandias: King of Kings - Look upon my works, ye mighty, & DESPAIR..."
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Windows NT Magazine (now Windows IT Pro) April 1997 "BACK OFFICE PERFORMANCE" issue, page 61
(&, for work done for EEC Systems/SuperSpeed.com on PAID CONTRACT (writing portions of their SuperCache program increasing its performance by up to 40% via my work) albeit, for their SuperDisk & HOW TO APPLY IT, took them to a finalist position @ MS Tech Ed, two years in a row 2000-2002, in its HARDEST CATEGORY: SQLServer Performance Enhancement).
WINDOWS MAGAZINE, 1997, "Top Freeware & Shareware of the Year" issue page 210, #1/first entry in fact (my work is there)
PC-WELT FEB 1998 - page 84, again, my work is featured there
WINDOWS MAGAZINE, WINTER 1998 - page 92, insert section, MUST HAVE WARES, my work is again, there
PC-WELT FEB 1999 - page 83, again, my work is featured there
CHIP Magazine 7/99 - page 100, my work is there
GERMAN PC BOOK, Data Becker publisher "PC Aufrusten und Repairen" 2000, where my work is contained in it
HOT SHAREWARE Numero 46 issue, pg. 54 (PC ware mag from Spain), 2001 my work is there, first one featured, yet again!
Also, a British PC Mag in 2002 for many utilities I wrote, saw it @ BORDERS BOOKS but didn't buy it... by that point, I had moved onto other areas in this field besides coding only...
Lastly, being paid for an article that made me money over @ PCPitstop in 2008 for writing up a guide that has people showing NO VIRUSES/SPYWARES & other screwups, via following its point, such as THRONKA sees here -> http://www.xtremepccentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=ee926d9
AND, what did the news poster TIMOTHY WRITE? Well, ok, another quote of proof:
"Note: the warning (from the Federal Office for Information Security) is provisional, and should be rendered moot by the release later this month of 3.6.2. - Posted by timothy on Tuesday March 23, @02:51AM
Note the BOLD part? FF didn't release a fix on time, & it came later on... simple!
(Learn to READ man, & make sure your information ISN'T STALE (which, it was... too bad for you!))
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"This from a known spyware author as well... well of course we expect you to lie, apk! as you said, "too, Too, TOO EASY"" -
Changing the subject now, eh? Ok, I can cover that easily too:
Why change the subject now? Oh, & on THAT note??
Well, I wrote those sites, & they got their information from Computer Associates, whom I also contacted & with Mr. Greg Jensen no less (head of their security suite's development)...
My ware shows as NO THREAT LEVELS (zero) there, and it failed NONE of their 21 question "removal test" criteria either, to have it removed!
Yes, you have to go thru that too, as a software dev (which apparently, you are not).
I also spoke to an attorney in that regard no less, & he stated:
"You have a winning case, but, they'd drag it out in court for a decade, exceeding my percentage of the award, making it not worth my time or rather costs in pursuing it" & he estimated it to be worth $150,000 U.S. Dollars, for libel.
So you know:
The same has happened to Dr. Mark Russinovich, & Nir Sofer of NIRSOFT (write this 2nd fellow especially - he is OUTRAGED by it, & I used to be, but not anymore - I passed all of CA's tests, & they lowered the alleged "threat level" of my app to ZERO).
I wrote it to help out a guy on some forums in the "olden days", when Apache ran not as a service, but as an app (& he couldn't STAND THAT, so it was easy to write up a program to spawn any process that uses a visible hWnd to do so, albeit, invisibly (almost as "light" as a service process that way, because no visible windows have to be "painted" on the screen device context).
Not even a "NICE TRY", because what's in my P.S.? BLOWS YOU AWAY, too easily! See below...
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NOW, for a "guy who writes spyware" as you say I do? Well... funny: My work & ideas went to Microsoft TECH ED, 2 yrs. in a ROW no less, as a FINALIST in their hardest category there: SQLServer Performance Enhancement... & I've been cited as doing nice work from many respected trade mags & such (newspapers & books too), while you were STILL IN DIAPERS I wager also... see below:
"My Name is Ozymandias: King of Kings - Look upon my works, ye mighty, & DESPAIR..."
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Windows NT Magazine (now Windows IT Pro) April 1997 "BACK OFFICE PERFORMANCE" issue, page 61
(&, for work done for EEC Systems/SuperSpeed.com on PAID CONTRACT (writing portions of their SuperCache program increasing its performance by up to 40% via my work) albeit, for their SuperDisk & HOW TO APPLY IT, took them to a finalist position @ MS Tech Ed, two years in a row 2000-2002, in its HARDEST CATEGORY: SQLServer Performance Enhancement).
WINDOWS MAGAZINE, 1997, "Top Freeware & Shareware of the Year" issue page 210, #1/first entry in fact (my work is there)
PC-WELT FEB 1998 - page 84, again, my work is featured there
WINDOWS MAGAZINE, WINTER 1998 - page 92, insert section, MUST HAVE WARES, my work is again, there
PC-WELT FEB 1999 - page 83, again, my work is featured there
CHIP Magazine 7/99 - page 100, my work is there
GERMAN PC BOOK, Data Becker publisher "PC Aufrusten und Repairen" 2000, where my work is contained in it
HOT SHAREWARE Numero 46 issue, pg. 54 (PC ware mag from Spain), 2001 my work is there, first one featured, yet again!
Also, a
I did, right on the FRONT PAGE OF THIS ARTICLE from the news poster himself:
PERTINENT QUOTE:
AND, what did the news poster TIMOTHY WRITE? Well, ok, another quote of proof:
"Note: the warning (from the Federal Office for Information Security) is provisional, and should be rendered moot by the release later this month of 3.6.2. - Posted by timothy on Tuesday March 23, @02:51AM
Note the BOLD part? FF didn't release a fix on time, & it came later on... simple!
(Learn to READ man, & make sure your information ISN'T STALE (which, it was... too bad for you!))
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Why was your "security company" info. stale? Simple - Opera already had 10.51 version out:
Opera 10.51 was out already -> http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/
On a roll: Opera 10.51 for Windows released
By Haavard. Monday, 22. March 2010, 10:00:00
On March 22nd in fact - WHICH PREDATES THIS ARTICLE ON SLASHDOT NO LESS, because this news was posted on /. on March 23rd (& a firefox fix didn't issue until the next day)...
(So much for your "current information" from your "SECURITY COMPANY", eh? Too bad it was STALE ALREADY, lol!)... YOU? YOU LOSE! apk
APK
P.S.=> Now, if others posted here as AC (as I do, to avoid trolls like yourself tracking me via my comments page which registered users are victim to & WHY I won't register here (especially since I know how to beat the 10 posts per 24 hour restriction /. places on us AC's & I do so, in under 10 seconds flat no less (no proxies either, lol, or diff. machines, just using 1 here to do it with ease no less)? I can see them doing so, posting as AC!
(Just so error prone trolls like YOU don't bother them (as you have attempted with me, but your own errors and stale information + FUD did you in, easily... "too, Too, TOO EASILY" in fact))... apk
"LOL, I love the way you completely dropped the false identity when I called you out on your bullshit! By the way, did you know that using a fraudulent identity online is now a CRIME in the United States? Haha!" - by clone53421 (1310749) on Monday April 05, @01:04PM (#31735836)
See subject-line & of course your numerous errors + stale information too below...
(Additionally: WHEN others post here as AC (as I do, to hopefully TRY to avoid FUD spreading & stale old out of date information using trolls like you)? I can't prevent it, sorry (& thus, you have NO EXCUSES left, because what's below? BLOWS YOU AWAY, just "too, Too, TOO EASILY" & with your own words, mistakes, & FUD)).
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"LOL, very, VERY lofty claims for someone who writes SPYWARE!" - by clone53421 (1310749) on Monday April 05, @12:53PM (#31735632)
Why change the subject now? Oh, & on THAT note??
Well, I wrote those sites, & they got their information from Computer Associates, whom I also contacted & with Mr. Greg Jensen no less (head of their security suite's development)...
My ware shows as NO THREAT LEVELS (zero) there, and it failed NONE of their 21 question "removal test" criteria either, to have it removed!
Yes, you have to go thru that too, as a software dev (which apparently, you are not).
I also spoke to an attorney in that regard no less, & he stated:
"You have a winning case, but, they'd drag it out in court for a decade, exceeding my percentage of the award, making it not worth my time or rather costs in pursuing it" & he estimated it to be worth $150,000 U.S. Dollars, for libel.
So you know:
The same has happened to Dr. Mark Russinovich, & Nir Sofer of NIRSOFT (write this 2nd fellow especially - he is OUTRAGED by it, & I used to be, but not anymore - I passed all of CA's tests, & they lowered the alleged "threat level" of my app to ZERO).
I wrote it to help out a guy on some forums in the "olden days", when Apache ran not as a service, but as an app (& he couldn't STAND THAT, so it was easy to write up a program to spawn any process that uses a visible hWnd to do so, albeit, invisibly (almost as "light" as a service process that way, because no visible windows have to be "painted" on the screen device context).
Not even a "NICE TRY", because what's in my P.S.? BLOWS YOU AWAY, too easily! See below...
----
NOW, for a "guy who writes spyware" as you say I do? Well... funny: My work & ideas went to Microsoft TECH ED, 2 yrs. in a ROW no less, as a FINALIST in their hardest category there: SQLServer Performance Enhancement... & I've been cited as doing nice work from many respected trade mags & such (newspapers & books too), while you were STILL IN DIAPERS I wager also... see below:
"My Name is Ozymandias: King of Kings - Look upon my works, ye mighty, & DESPAIR..."
----
Windows NT Magazine (now Windows IT Pro) April 1997 "BACK OFFICE PERFORMANCE" issue, page 61
(&, for work done for EEC Systems/SuperSpeed.com on PAID CONTRACT (writing portions of their SuperCache program increasing its performance by up to 40% via my work) albeit, for their SuperDisk & HOW TO APPLY IT, took them to a finalist position @ MS Tech Ed, two years in a row 2000-2002, in its HARDEST CATEGORY: SQLServer Performance Enhancement).
WINDOWS MAGAZINE, 1997, "Top Freeware & Shareware of the Year" issue page 210, #1/first entry in fact (my work is there)
PC-WELT FEB 1998 - page 84, again, my work is featured there
WINDOWS MAGAZINE, WINTER 1998 - page 92, insert section, MUST HAVE WARES, my work is again, there
PC-WELT FEB 1999 - page 83, again, my work is featured there
CHIP Magazine 7/99 - page 100, my work is there
GERMAN PC BOOK, Data Becker publisher "PC Aufrusten und Repairen" 2000, where my work i
More lies from the spyware author, LOL!! Read your own quote, I’ll repeat it for you:
Posted by timothy on Tuesday March 23, @02:51AM
But the 3.6.2 update was ALREADY released WELL BEFORE the story was posted (Tuesday March 23, @02:51AM Eastern): https://developer.mozilla.org/devnews/index.php/2010/03/22/firefox-3-6-2-update-now-available-as-free-download/
Version 3.6.2 was released THE DAY BEFORE this story even posted! Once again you are caught in your BOLD-FACED LIES, LOL!
Alexander Peter Kristopeit bought his basement from his mommy for one dollar.
See subject-line (also, neither does your libelling me either).
So, to answer the question you stated? OK, I'll help you out!
I show ZERO THREAT LEVELS in my application @ Computer Associates in fact (call Greg Jensen himself the head of CA's SECURITY SUITE (he'll know who I am & what this is about (easiest proof I can offer in fact is this, because I can't put up attached files here for those scans you ask for))
Why zero threats in my app @ CA (the source of all this in fact)?
Well - because I took CA's 21 point removal test, & passed EVERY question is why)!
So you know, again - plus, again, the same has happened to Dr. Mark Russinovich of Microsoft (he & I used to do work for Sunbelt software @ the same time in the mid to late 1990's in fact, & I helped HE out of bugs in his pagedefrag.exe program, & he thanked me in email for it no less), plus, Nir Sofer of NIRSOFT had it happen on a LOT of his wares (which sux, because his wares are quite useful & NOT spywares)...
Still - YOU, changing the subject though, after ALL YOUR ERRORS?
Man, face it - You LOSE! The data of your errors in my PS below shows all your screwups... face the music pal, see below:
APK
P.S.=> You cannot cover your numerous errors with FUD & BS like changing the subject (and of course, your libelling me too, along with your "geek angst" name calling directed my way constantly here, which of course, only shows HOW BADLY YOU BEAT YOURSELF (you did the job FOR ME, see your errors below)):
"LOL, and THE FACT THAT FIREFOX ALREADY HAD version 3.6.2 out already by the time this article was put up on slashdot as well?" - by clone53421 (1310749) on Monday April 05, @12:45PM (#31735520)
AND, what did the news poster TIMOTHY WRITE? Well, ok, another quote of proof:
"Note: the warning (from the Federal Office for Information Security) is provisional, and should be rendered moot by the release later this month of 3.6.2. - Posted by timothy on Tuesday March 23, @02:51AM
Note the BOLD part? FF didn't release a fix on time, & it came later on... simple!
(Learn to READ man, & make sure your information ISN'T STALE (which, it was... too bad for you!))
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"I said that ONCE, lol, and it was a TYPO (do you know the meaning of the word?)" - by clone53421 (1310749) on Monday April 05, @12:45PM (#31735520)
I sure do - you illustrated it, "beautifully", lol... see below:
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1591778&cid=31582892
"They released 2.6.2, or are you stuck in the past? - by clone53421 (1310749) on Tuesday March 23, @09:53AM (#31582892) Journal
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LMAO, see the above quote first, & THEN? THEN SEE THIS ONE about "living in the past", making HUGE errors, & 'FireFox 2.62', lol!
Please - wait: IT GETS BETTER (as far as "living in the past"):
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1591778&cid=31582488
"Yes, because Opera has never had this sort of vulnerability! http://www.opera.com/support/kb/view/865/" - by clone53421 (1310749)
on Tuesday March 23, @09:27AM (#31582488) Journal
Which is about OPERA 9.23, which is HOW MANY YEARS OUT OF DATE NOW?
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AND, of course (as to your "current security company information" (not))?
Opera 10.51 was out already -> http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/
On a roll: Opera 10.51 for Windows released
By Haavard. Monday, 22. March 2010, 10:00:00
On March 22nd in fact - WHICH PREDATES THIS ARTICLE ON SLASHDOT NO LESS, because this news
"The summary was wrong, dumbass. Check the date. If Timothy wrote that (it may have been in the original story submission for all I know) it was after 3.6.2 was ALREADY released... old, OLD news!" - by clone53421 (1310749) on Monday April 05, @01:29PM (#31736324)
See the post date of this article, & timothy stating FF wasn't fixed at the time of the posting (or my PS below)... simple!
HOWEVER: THERE IS NO COVERING YOUR SCREWUP ON OPERA 10.51 ALREADY HAVING BEEN OUT, vs. your "security company" info. on an OLD VERSION OF OPERA 10.50 when 10.51 was out already before timothy posted his news here...
Pretty simple: All the libel, name tossing & other "geek angst" you're displaying? Give away the fact you blew it... face it, & the proof's below in your own words, quoted.
APK
P.S.=> You cannot cover your numerous errors with FUD & BS like changing the subject (and of course, your libelling me too, along with your "geek angst" name calling directed my way constantly here, which of course, only shows HOW BADLY YOU BEAT YOURSELF (you did the job FOR ME, see your errors below)):
"LOL, and THE FACT THAT FIREFOX ALREADY HAD version 3.6.2 out already by the time this article was put up on slashdot as well?" - by clone53421 (1310749) on Monday April 05, @12:45PM (#31735520)
AND, what did the news poster TIMOTHY WRITE? Well, ok, another quote of proof:
"Note: the warning (from the Federal Office for Information Security) is provisional, and should be rendered moot by the release later this month of 3.6.2. - Posted by timothy on Tuesday March 23, @02:51AM
Note the BOLD part? FF didn't release a fix on time, & it came later on... simple!
(Learn to READ man, & make sure your information ISN'T STALE (which, it was... too bad for you!))
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"I said that ONCE, lol, and it was a TYPO (do you know the meaning of the word?)" - by clone53421 (1310749) on Monday April 05, @12:45PM (#31735520)
I sure do - you illustrated it, "beautifully", lol... see below:
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1591778&cid=31582892
"They released 2.6.2, or are you stuck in the past? - by clone53421 (1310749) on Tuesday March 23, @09:53AM (#31582892) Journal
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LMAO, see the above quote first, & THEN? THEN SEE THIS ONE about "living in the past", making HUGE errors, & 'FireFox 2.62', lol!
Please - wait: IT GETS BETTER (as far as "living in the past"):
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1591778&cid=31582488
"Yes, because Opera has never had this sort of vulnerability! http://www.opera.com/support/kb/view/865/" - by clone53421 (1310749)
on Tuesday March 23, @09:27AM (#31582488) Journal
Which is about OPERA 9.23, which is HOW MANY YEARS OUT OF DATE NOW?
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AND, of course (as to your "current security company information" (not))?
Opera 10.51 was out already -> http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/
On a roll: Opera 10.51 for Windows released
By Haavard. Monday, 22. March 2010, 10:00:00
On March 22nd in fact - WHICH PREDATES THIS ARTICLE ON SLASHDOT NO LESS, because this news was posted on /. on March 23rd (& a firefox fix didn't issue until the next day)...
(So much for your "current information" from your "SECURITY COMPANY", eh? Too bad it was STALE ALREADY, lol!)... YOU? YOU LOSE! apk
Again:
So, to answer the question you stated? OK, I'll help you out!
My app show ZERO THREAT LEVELS in my application @ Computer Associates in fact (call Greg Jensen himself the head of CA's SECURITY SUITE (he'll know who I am & what this is about (easiest proof I can offer in fact is this, because I can't put up attached files here for those scans you ask for))
Why zero threats in my app @ CA (the source of all this in fact)?
Well - because I took CA's 21 point removal test (& passed EVERY question is why, violating NONE of their then current constraints no less)!
So you know, again!
Also/again, the same has happened to Dr. Mark Russinovich of Microsoft (he & I used to do work for Sunbelt software @ the same time in the mid to late 1990's in fact, & I helped HE out of bugs in his pagedefrag.exe program, & he thanked me in email for it no less), plus, Nir Sofer of NIRSOFT had it happen on a LOT of his wares (which sux, because his wares are quite useful & NOT spywares)...
Still - YOU, changing the subject though, after ALL YOUR ERRORS?
Man, face it - You LOSE! The data of your errors in my PS below shows all your screwups... face the music pal, see below:
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"The summary was wrong, dumbass. Check the date. If Timothy wrote that (it may have been in the original story submission for all I know) it was after 3.6.2 was ALREADY released... old, OLD news!" - by clone53421 (1310749) on Monday April 05, @01:29PM (#31736324)
See the post date of this article, & timothy stating FF wasn't fixed at the time of the posting (or my PS below)... simple!
HOWEVER: THERE IS NO COVERING YOUR SCREWUP ON OPERA 10.51 ALREADY HAVING BEEN OUT, vs. your "security company" info. on an OLD VERSION OF OPERA 10.50 when 10.51 was out already before timothy posted his news here...
Pretty simple: All the libel, name tossing & other "geek angst" you're displaying? Give away the fact you blew it... face it, & the proof's below in your own words, quoted.
APK
P.S.=> You cannot cover your numerous errors with FUD & BS like changing the subject (and of course, your libelling me too, along with your "geek angst" name calling directed my way constantly here, which of course, only shows HOW BADLY YOU BEAT YOURSELF (you did the job FOR ME, see your errors below)):
"LOL, and THE FACT THAT FIREFOX ALREADY HAD version 3.6.2 out already by the time this article was put up on slashdot as well?" - by clone53421 (1310749) on Monday April 05, @12:45PM (#31735520)
AND, what did the news poster TIMOTHY WRITE? Well, ok, another quote of proof:
"Note: the warning (from the Federal Office for Information Security) is provisional, and should be rendered moot by the release later this month of 3.6.2. - Posted by timothy on Tuesday March 23, @02:51AM
Note the BOLD part? FF didn't release a fix on time, & it came later on... simple!
(Learn to READ man, & make sure your information ISN'T STALE (which, it was... too bad for you!))
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"I said that ONCE, lol, and it was a TYPO (do you know the meaning of the word?)" - by clone53421 (1310749) on Monday April 05, @12:45PM (#31735520)
I sure do - you illustrated it, "beautifully", lol... see below:
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1591778&cid=31582892
"They released 2.6.2, or are you stuck in the past? - by clone53421 (1310749) on Tuesday March 23, @09:53AM (#31582892) Journal
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LMAO, see the above quote first, & THEN? THEN SEE THIS ONE about "living in the past", making HUGE errors, & 'FireFox 2.62', lol!
Please - wait: IT GETS BETTER (as far as "living in the past"):
What matters here is simple - You said this:
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1591778&cid=31582488
"Yes, because Opera has never had this sort of vulnerability! http://www.opera.com/support/kb/view/865/" - by clone53421 (1310749)
on Tuesday March 23, @09:27AM (#31582488) Journal
Oh, really?
Funny - But the date of the article here & its release was 03/23/2010... Opera had version 10.52.3344 out by then (or rather, 10.52.xxx based builds)... & certainly NOT Opera vesion 9.23, which you cited above & it's many years out of date no less, nor your other "source", which you found FINALLY, which lists Opera 10.50... YET AGAIN, OUT OF DATE & STALE FROM YOU + "YOUR SOURCES"
Pretty simple/cut & dried... YOU LOSE!
"LOL, and THE FACT THAT FIREFOX ALREADY HAD version 3.6.2 out already by the time this article was put up on slashdot as well?" - by clone53421 (1310749) on Monday April 05, @12:45PM (#31735520)
AND, what did the news poster TIMOTHY WRITE? Well, ok, another quote of proof:
"Note: the warning (from the Federal Office for Information Security) is provisional, and should be rendered moot by the release later this month of 3.6.2. - Posted by timothy on Tuesday March 23, @02:51AM
Note the BOLD part? FF didn't release a fix on time, & it came later on... simple!
(Learn to READ man, & make sure your information ISN'T STALE (which, it was... too bad for you!))
Opera 10.51 was out already -> http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/
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On a roll: Opera 10.51 for Windows released
By Haavard. Monday, 22. March 2010, 10:00:00
On March 22nd in fact - WHICH PREDATES THIS ARTICLE ON SLASHDOT NO LESS, because this news was posted on /. on March 23rd (& a firefox fix didn't issue until the next day)...
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(So much for your "current information" from your "SECURITY COMPANY", eh? Too bad it was STALE ALREADY, lol!)... YOU? YOU LOSE! apk
Ah - As-per-usual? "too, Too, TOO EASY" for me to blow you away... with documented facts, dates, & reputable sources but above ALL else? With ease!
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"It's not like this is the first time that a Slashdot summary is wrong. But YOU claimed that it was 100% accurate without checking up the sources, LOL, and now you are trying to blame it on Timothy when YOU WERE THE ONE WHO IS WRONG?" - by clone53421 (1310749) on Monday April 05, @01:51PM (#31736820)
Now YOU are trying to say Timothy & trying to say slashdot are "WRONG"... "yea, ok" (sarcasm/not).
However? Perhaps they are, & misinformed us all? I'll give you the benefit of the doubt - but, your "security company info" you noted? YOUR SECURITY COMPANY DATA WAS/IS DEFINTELY OUT OF DATE/STALE, AS OF THE DATE OF THIS NEWS ON SLASHDOT - NO QUESTIONS ASKED!
(After all - Opera had 10.51 out before this news here even came out the door, see the excerpt above on its release date... you cannot change the fact you messed up largely, despite your b.s./fud/misinformation you constantly use, along with name tossing, libel, profanity, in constant "streams" from you!)
APK
P.S.=> Better luck next time, & realize this: YOU PERSONALLY NEVER HAD THE INFORMATION, OR INTELLECT, TO GET THE "BETTER OF ME"... lol! apk
"I never said that Opera 10.51 was not out, in fact I even said it in my ORIGINAL POST, here: http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1591778&cid=31582542 - where I even said the following:" - by clone53421 (1310749) on Monday April 05, @01:59PM (#31736984
From your own mouth above - You KNEW Opera 10.51 had released! So it appears that YOU LIKE TO MISINFORM...
I just corrected you was all, with this more current info., as of the date of this article being put up here:
(After all - Opera had 10.51 out before this news here even came out the door, see the excerpt below on Opera 10.51's release date... you cannot change the fact you messed up largely on saying that & especially your citing a bug in Opera 9.23, which is MANY YEARS OUT OF DATE no less!)
YOUR "SECURITY COMPANY DATA" WAS/IS DEFINTELY OUT OF DATE/STALE & I N V A L I D, period!
Why would you EVEN BOTHER POST out of date/stale news?
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NOW, MORE IMPORTANTLY: Whom are you calling a "spyware author", here (when you changed topic "suddenly" (off topic too)):
"LOL, very, VERY lofty claims for someone who writes SPYWARE!" - by clone53421 (1310749) on Monday April 05, @12:53PM (#31735632)
Thanks for the information...
APK
P.S.=> Now, can you show us where GERMAN GOV'T. SAID TO AVOID FIREFOX, as they did of both FireFox &/or IE?
After all, the person I responded to, Beezelbud, said this:
"First they came for IE, and I didn't speak up because I didn't use IE. Then they came for Firefox, and I didn't speak up because I didn't use Firefox." - by Beelzebud (1361137)
on Tuesday March 23, @03:16AM (#31580262)
To which I stated "they never came for Opera" in my 1st reply here... that's all. Then, you said "they" did (they being Germany of course)... well, where did Germany do that? They didn't & you said this, avoiding it:
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1591778&cid=31704426
"I already said I don't give half a worm-eaten turd what the German government said." - by Beelzebud (1361137) on Tuesday March 23, @03:16AM (#31580262)
I do, based on my reply to Beezelbud (which was my first here)... apk
"I never said that Opera 10.51 was not out, in fact I even said it in my ORIGINAL POST, here: http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1591778&cid=31582542 - where I even said the following:" - by clone53421 (1310749) on Monday April 05, @01:59PM (#31736984
From your own mouth above - You KNEW Opera 10.51 had released! So it appears that YOU LIKE TO MISINFORM... & you're also saying Timothy the news poster's information is incorrect?
Well, he wrote this, verbatim (see his submission @ the top of this article in fact to verify it):
"Note: the warning (from the Federal Office for Information Security) is provisional, and should be rendered moot by the release later this month of 3.6.2. - Posted by timothy on Tuesday March 23, @02:51AM
Note the BOLD part? FF didn't release a fix on time, per the news submission? Ff's "fix" came later on... simple!
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I just corrected you was all, with this more current info. on Opera, as of the date of this article being put up here:
(After all - Opera had 10.51 out before this news here even came out the door, see the excerpt below on Opera 10.51's release date... you cannot change the fact you messed up largely on saying that & especially your citing a bug in Opera 9.23, which is MANY YEARS OUT OF DATE no less!)
YOUR "SECURITY COMPANY DATA" WAS/IS DEFINTELY OUT OF DATE/STALE & I N V A L I D, period!
Why would you EVEN BOTHER POST out of date/stale news?
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NOW, MORE IMPORTANTLY: Whom are you calling a "spyware author", here (when you changed topic "suddenly" (off topic too)):
"LOL, very, VERY lofty claims for someone who writes SPYWARE!" - by clone53421 (1310749) on Monday April 05, @12:53PM (#31735632)
Thanks for the information...
APK
P.S.=> Now, can you show us where GERMAN GOV'T. SAID TO AVOID FIREFOX, as they did of both FireFox &/or IE?
After all, the person I responded to, Beezelbud, said this:
"First they came for IE, and I didn't speak up because I didn't use IE. Then they came for Firefox, and I didn't speak up because I didn't use Firefox." - by Beelzebud (1361137)
on Tuesday March 23, @03:16AM (#31580262)
To which I stated "they never came for Opera" in my 1st reply here... that's all. Then, you said "they" did (they being Germany of course)... well, where did Germany do that? They didn't & you said this, avoiding it:
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1591778&cid=31704426
"I already said I don't give half a worm-eaten turd what the German government said." - by Beelzebud (1361137) on Tuesday March 23, @03:16AM (#31580262)
I do, based on my reply to Beezelbud (which was my first here)... apk
"More lies from the spyware author," - by clone53421 (1310749) on Monday April 05, @01:36PM (#31736454)
Answer that question in my subject-line above! Are YOU calling ME a "spyware author"?
(I don't think you will answer up to that... if you do, then it'd probably be time to call my attorney (she's the one who got me into contact with an attorney from another city who said I have a winner, per the below next), who will probably contact slashdot, & I'll get your IP addy & ISP/BSP, & find out who you are with a legal order from my attorney, & then it's YOUR problem, for sure -not MINE!))
Truth, again, for those reading:
An app I wrote, circa 1999-2001 iirc, showw ZERO THREAT LEVELS in my application @ Computer Associates in fact (call Greg Jensen himself the head of CA's SECURITY SUITE (he'll know who I am & what this is about (easiest proof I can offer in fact is this, because I can't put up attached files here for those scans you ask for)))
Why zero threats in my app @ CA (the source of all this in fact)? Well - because I took CA's 21 point removal test (& my app passed EVERY question they had then is why)!
So you know, again - plus, again, the same has happened to Dr. Mark Russinovich of Microsoft (he & I used to do work for Sunbelt software @ the same time in the mid to late 1990's in fact, & I helped HE out of bugs in his pagedefrag.exe program, & he thanked me in email for it no less), plus, Nir Sofer of NIRSOFT had it happen on a LOT of his wares (which sux, because his wares are quite useful & NOT spywares)...
APK
P.S.=> And, for a "spyware author" as you seem to be saying I am? Funny - I wrote the most viewed security guide for Windows there is afaik, @ 350,000 views strong, with replies like this in regards to its efficacy (and versions of the same, from as far back as 1997-1998 online too):
http://www.tcmagazine.com/forums/index.php?s=8acc7ab351b4e3f0718acf427bb4257e&showtopic=2662
TESIMONIALS OF ITS EFFECTIVENESS
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HOW TO SECURE Windows 2000/XP/Server 2003, & even VISTA/Windows 7 (+ make it "fun-to-do" via CIS Tool Guidance & beyond):
http://www.tcmagazine.com/forums/index.php?s=568d95985ad83ef4add94de09f6026d3&showtopic=2662
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It works, & is based on the concept you lay out via your quoted words above - what computer security folks the past few years have been calling "LAYERED SECURITY"...
Proofs to its efficacy?
Ok, some quoted testimonials:
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http://www.xtremepccentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=672ebdf47af75a0c5b0d9e7278be305f&t=28430&page=2
"I recently, months ago when you finally got this guide done, had authorization to try this on simple work station for kids. My client, who paid me an ungodly amount of money to do this, has been PROBLEM FREE FOR MONTHS! I haven't even had a follow up call which is unusual." - THRONKA, user of my guide @ XTremePcCentral
AND
"APK, thanks for such a great guide. This would, and should, be an inspiration to such security measures. Also, the pc that has "tweaks": IS STILL GOING! NO PROBLEMS!" - THRONKA, user of my guide @ XTremePcCentral
AND
http://www.xtremepccentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=672ebdf47af75a0c5b0d9e7278be305f&t=28430&page=3
"Its 2009 - still trouble free! I was told last week by a co worker who does active directory administration, and he said I was doing overkill. I told hi
"I never said that Opera 10.51 was not out, in fact I even said it in my ORIGINAL POST, here: http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1591778&cid=31582542 - where I even said the following:" - by clone53421 (1310749) on Monday April 05, @01:59PM (#31736984
From your own mouth above - You KNEW Opera 10.51 had released! So it appears that YOU LIKE TO MISINFORM... & you're also saying Timothy the news poster's information is incorrect?
Well, he wrote this, verbatim (see his submission @ the top of this article in fact to verify it):
"Note: the warning (from the Federal Office for Information Security) is provisional, and should be rendered moot by the release later this month of 3.6.2. - Posted by timothy on Tuesday March 23, @02:51AM
Note the BOLD part? FF didn't release a fix on time, per the news submission? Ff's "fix" came later on... simple!
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I just corrected you was all, with this more current info. on Opera, as of the date of this article being put up here:
(After all - Opera had 10.51 out before this news here even came out the door, see the excerpt below on Opera 10.51's release date... you cannot change the fact you messed up largely on saying that & especially your citing a bug in Opera 9.23, which is MANY YEARS OUT OF DATE no less!)
YOUR "SECURITY COMPANY DATA" WAS/IS DEFINTELY OUT OF DATE/STALE & I N V A L I D, period!
Why would you EVEN BOTHER POST out of date/stale news?
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NOW, MORE IMPORTANTLY: Whom are you calling a "spyware author", here (when you changed topic "suddenly" (off topic too)):
"LOL, very, VERY lofty claims for someone who writes SPYWARE!" - by clone53421 (1310749) on Monday April 05, @12:53PM (#31735632)
Thanks for the information...
APK
P.S.=> Now, can you show us where GERMAN GOV'T. SAID TO AVOID FIREFOX, as they did of both FireFox &/or IE?
After all, the person I responded to, Beezelbud, said this:
"First they came for IE, and I didn't speak up because I didn't use IE. Then they came for Firefox, and I didn't speak up because I didn't use Firefox." - by Beelzebud (1361137)
on Tuesday March 23, @03:16AM (#31580262)
To which I stated "they never came for Opera" in my 1st reply here... that's all. Then, you said "they" did (they being Germany of course)... well, where did Germany do that? They didn't & you said this, avoiding it:
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1591778&cid=31704426
"I already said I don't give half a worm-eaten turd what the German government said." - by Beelzebud (1361137) on Tuesday March 23, @03:16AM (#31580262)
I do, based on my reply to Beezelbud (which was my first here)... apk
"And you are STILL quoting the FALSE information which you attribute to Timothy" - by clone53421 (1310749) on Monday April 05, @01:59PM (#31736984)
Did Timothy's article @ its termination, say this, or not:
"Note: the warning (from the Federal Office for Information Security) is provisional, and should be rendered moot by the release later this month of 3.6.2. - Posted by timothy on Tuesday March 23, @02:51AM
?
APK
P.S.=> Also, WHOM are you calling "spyware author" here:
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1591778&cid=31736454
?
(Answer that - IF You say it's me? Well, then you'll have to worry about what happens, after that - because it's called LIBEL!)... apk
Clone53421, Who are you calling a spyware author here: http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1591778&cid=31736454 and other spots in that exchange?
APK
"And you are STILL quoting the FALSE information which you attribute to Timothy" - by clone53421 (1310749) on Monday April 05, @01:59PM (#31736984)
You said this latter part, I was operating on what you're saying is incorrect:
"The summary was wrong, dumbass. Check the date. If Timothy wrote that (it may have been in the original story submission for all I know)" - by clone53421 (1310749) on Monday April 05, @01:59PM (#31736984)
It was up there from day #1 of this article in fact...
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"More lies from the spyware author, LOL!! Read your own quote, I'll repeat it for you:" - by clone53421 (1310749) on Monday April 05, @01:36PM (#31736454) Journal
At this point though, what I want now to know now, is simple - Answer to this question: ARE YOU CALLING M E, a "spyware author"?
See here:
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1591778&cid=31736454
That's all...
APK
P.S.=> Your posting incorrect information, with your using "SECURITY COMPANY" information, about Opera 10.50? It was OUT OF DATE & STALE (for the 10th time now) - Opera 10.51 had been released a day or more before this article surfaced here in fact... see below:
On a roll: Opera 10.51 for Windows released
By Haavard. Monday, 22. March 2010, 10:00:00
On March 22nd in fact - WHICH PREDATES THIS ARTICLE ON SLASHDOT NO LESS, because this news was posted on /. on March 23rd (& a firefox fix didn't issue until the next day)...
AND, what was your "security company information", about an OLD version of Opera? Stale, see below:
http://www.ghacks.net/2010/03/06/opera-10-50-security-vulnerability/
That again, is Opera 10.50, which was updated the day before, to Opera 10.51... apk
Misinforming others, as you even seem to say Timothy's article did? That's one thing... but LIBELLING ME? That is QUITE another... answer that question above! apk
Are you saying that I am a spyware maker/malware maker?
(Yes or No is the only answer needed)
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"LOL, I find it hilarious that the SPYWARE AUTHOR is accusing me of libel!" - by clone53421 (1310749) on Monday April 05, @01:46PM (#31736694)
So, again: Are YOU calling ME, a SPYWARE MAKER? Yes or No, is all I need.
And, yes, my apps' still there (zero threat levels though - it CAN be "misused" though, this happens to the "best of us", see below in fact)
http://www.ca.com/us/securityadvisor/pest/pest.aspx?id=51276
They list it - with ZERO threat levels... EVEN THOUGH I PASSED EVERY ONE OF THEIR 21 QUESTIONS FOR REMOVAL!
(It happens - Just as they do to others' wares, such as Nir Sofer's wares (he has this happen ALL THE TIME, wrongfully, because his apps are good, & just like PING could issue a "ping of death"? His apps may be a 'double-edged sword' is all - same thing's happened to a former "colleague" of mine (mid 1990's for Sunbelt Software in Dr. Mark Russinovich of Microsoft, when he & I both made wares for them back then)).
In any event?? Have some balls, answer the question, that's all!
APK
P.S.=> You answer yes to your saying I am a malware maker? You'll be VERY surprised at what will happen after that... apk
Are you saying that I am a spyware maker/malware maker?
(Yes or No is the only answer needed)
"That makes you a CRIMINAL and a HACKER who also writes SPYWARE." - by clone53421 (1310749) on Monday April 05, @08:25PM (#31743416)
So you ARE calling me a HACKER now, and a CRIMINAL, and one who creates spyware... YES?
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"In case you didn't already know this, changing your IP address to defeat Slashdot's anti-spam mechanism constitutes both fraudulently misrepresenting yourself (A CRIME, as I already told you) and also considered unauthorized access to a computer system (HACKING)." - by clone53421 (1310749) on Monday April 05, @08:25PM (#31743416)
Oh, really? Care to show me a legal precedent OR ruling of that being the case, were I switching IP addresses to overcome the "10 posts per 24 hour limit" on AC users? I sign off as APK, so I am NOT "misrepresenting myself" here, in case you hadn't noticed, lol!
(Now, on "changing IP addy"? Uhm, who says I am doing THAT anyhow to beat the restriction - and so what IF I did? I could just as easily say I turned off my modem & PC, & upon restarting it?? I have a new IP address... pretty simple - I'd like to see you backup that b.s., with legal evidence to what you said, because, anyone can turn off their modem & upon restarting be assigned a new IP address, assuming they don't have a STATIC IP!)
Produce some US legal documentation of what you just said... thanks! I, for one, would like to see it - because it appaernty wouldn't account for folks that keep their power off when not using a system... so, show us your LEGAL proof of what you stated now above, ok?
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"LOL, I find it hilarious that the SPYWARE AUTHOR is accusing me of libel!" - by clone53421 (1310749) on Monday April 05, @01:46PM (#31736694)
So, again: Are YOU calling ME, a SPYWARE MAKER? Yes or No, is all I need.
And, yes, my apps' still there (zero threat levels though - it CAN be "misused" though, this happens to the "best of us", see below in fact)
http://www.ca.com/us/securityadvisor/pest/pest.aspx?id=51276
They list it - with ZERO threat levels... EVEN THOUGH I PASSED EVERY ONE OF THEIR 21 QUESTIONS FOR REMOVAL!
(It happens - Just as they do to others' wares, such as Nir Sofer's wares (he has this happen ALL THE TIME, wrongfully, because his apps are good, & just like PING could issue a "ping of death"? His apps may be a 'double-edged sword' is all - same thing's happened to a former "colleague" of mine (mid 1990's for Sunbelt Software in Dr. Mark Russinovich of Microsoft, when he & I both made wares for them back then)).
In any event?? Have some balls, answer the question, that's all!
APK
P.S.=> You answer yes to your saying I am a malware maker? You'll be VERY surprised at what will happen after that... apk
"You are still stalking me (cyber stalking / harassment as I already stated) via my profile. I said stop." - by clone53421 (1310749) on Monday April 05, @09:09PM (#31743772)
Anyone can look at your profile, it's PUBLIC INFORMATION. I am using it to ask you questions now : That is it.
You, however, are LIBELLING myself, in calling me a "spyware maker" etc. et al.
At this point, I am only seeking clarification of your statements directed my way. I.E.-> Are you saying I am a malware maker etc. et al as you did in the URL's below. You have a chance to recant it now I suppose is all.
Why?
Well - So far, You have libelled me, calling me a "spyware maker" & the like. I wrote CmdrTaco, & he can take things from here, at this point at least.
I sent Rob Malda/CmdrTaco the links in which you have done so NUMEROUS TIMES TODAY in fact!
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1591778&cid=31736274
or
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1591778&cid=31736798
or
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1591778&cid=31743416
or
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1591778&cid=31735898
or
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1591778&cid=31736984
or
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1591778&cid=31736454
and more...
(So, because of your statements of libel being directed MY way? Well - At this point?? I will wait to see what CmdrTaco says, or does, & then? Well, if he does nothing, Then, I suppose /. gets a legal order to stop you (stop order) OR if that doesn't do it, then to divulge your IP address & ISP/BSP, from an attorney for your email, your ISP/BSP, & eventually, your true identity... Then, I suppose that the a court of law is next for you, for libelling myself).
APK
P.S.=> So, why won't you answer my questions? After all, it seemed as if YOU were calling ME a "spyware maker"/"malware maker", hacker/cracker, & more... Do you really THINK I am those thinsg? Once more, YES or NO will do here! apk
"If you are accusing me of libel, you already have all of the evidence you need." - by clone53421 (1310749) on Monday April 05, @09:33PM (#31743950)
Why won't you answer my question then?
I want you to say if you are saying I am a malware maker/spyware maker (all the titles you libelled me with) - YES or NO will do to my questions in that regard.
(Since you're this "legal expert"? Then, I am asking YOU to stop libelling me, for one thing, though I feel that you have numerous times now here... I would just like a straight answer to my question of "Are you calling me a malware maker/spyware maker and hacker/cracker?")
That's all.
After all - You shot your mouth off earlier, pretty righteously & "courageously", directing libellous comments my way, now why are you SO "reluctant to answer" suddenly?
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"However I suggest that you look up the definition of "libel" before making a fool of yourself further; statements made in good faith and reasonably believed to be true are NOT libelous." - by clone53421 (1310749) on Monday April 05, @09:33PM (#31743950)
I suggest you answer my question of "Are you saying I am a malware maker/spyware maker etc. & a hacker/cracker?"
NOW - On "good faith"?
Ok - Earlier, I told you what happened a couple times now, & not just to myself, & that it happens to myself, folks like Nir Sofer, Dr. Mark Russinovich of Microsoft even had his wares listed as malwares...
In fact, as I said before?
Write Nir Sofer of NIRSOFT yourself, or Dr. Mark Russinovich too in this regards (for the 4th or 5th time by now I've told you of this).
So you know also - I also wrote + DIRECTLY CALLED Mr. Greg Jensen of Computer Associates, & PASSED Computer Associates' 21 points of questions too, around 1 yr. ago in fact, violating NONE of their constraints/conditions in fact, not a single one in that test!
(Yet, my app's listed there, albeit NOW with zero threat levels though!)
So, it's just that like PING which can be used for a "ping of death", it can be a 'double-edged sword'... so - You've now been informed to the CONTRARY of your beliefs, and now your "good faith" b.s.? Gone... like it was when I wrote this all up before here many times.
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"I eagerly await the letter from your fictional attorney. Will it be written in invisible ink?" - by clone53421 (1310749) on Monday April 05, @09:33PM (#31743950)
I eagerly await your answer to my question above, in bold, with a YES or NO answer...
APK
P.S.=> So, DO YOU FEEL I AM A MALWARE MAKER/SPYWARE MAKER, HACKER/CRACKER, etc. et al (whatever else you have libelled me as), even AFTER I told you of what happened, who to contact via email or phone if you like too... your "good faith" b.s.? About to go "bye bye" & more is coming... Should you answer "YES" to all of the libellous accusations you have directed my way many times today here... apk
"If you are accusing me of libel, you already have all of the evidence you need." - by clone53421 (1310749) on Monday April 05, @09:33PM (#31743950)
Why won't you answer my question then?
I want you to say if you are saying I am a malware maker/spyware maker (all the titles you libelled me with) - a YES or NO from you will do here in reply to my questions in that regard.
(Also - Since you're this "legal expert"? Then, I am asking YOU to stop libelling me, for one thing, though I feel that you have numerous times now here... I would just like a straight answer to my question of "Are you calling me a malware maker/spyware maker and hacker/cracker?")
That's all.
After all - You shot your mouth off earlier, pretty righteously & "courageously", directing libellous comments my way, now why are you SO "reluctant to answer" suddenly?
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"However I suggest that you look up the definition of "libel" before making a fool of yourself further; statements made in good faith and reasonably believed to be true are NOT libelous." - by clone53421 (1310749) on Monday April 05, @09:33PM (#31743950)
I suggest you answer my question of "Are you saying I am a malware maker/spyware maker etc. & a hacker/cracker?"
NOW - On "good faith"?
Ok - Earlier, I told you what happened a couple times now, & not just to myself, & that it happens to myself, folks like Nir Sofer, Dr. Mark Russinovich of Microsoft even had his wares listed as malwares...
In fact, as I said before?
Write Nir Sofer of NIRSOFT yourself, or Dr. Mark Russinovich too in this regards (for the 4th or 5th time by now I've told you of this).
So you know also - I also wrote + DIRECTLY CALLED Mr. Greg Jensen of Computer Associates, & PASSED Computer Associates' 21 points of questions too, around 1 yr. ago in fact, violating NONE of their constraints/conditions in fact, not a single one in that test!
(Yet, my app's listed there, albeit NOW with zero threat levels though!)
So, it's just that like PING which can be used for a "ping of death", it can be a 'double-edged sword'... so - You've now been informed to the CONTRARY of your beliefs, and now your "good faith" b.s.? Gone... like it was when I wrote this all up before here many times.
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"I eagerly await the letter from your fictional attorney. Will it be written in invisible ink?" - by clone53421 (1310749) on Monday April 05, @09:33PM (#31743950)
I eagerly await your answer to my question above, in bold, with a YES or NO answer...
APK
P.S.=> So, DO YOU FEEL I AM A MALWARE MAKER/SPYWARE MAKER, HACKER/CRACKER, etc. et al (whatever else you have libelled me as), even AFTER I told you of what happened, who to contact via email or phone if you like too... your "good faith" b.s.? About to go "bye bye" & more is coming... Should you answer "YES" to all of the libellous accusations you have directed my way many times today here... apk
I’m not afraid of you. I’m not refusing to answer your question. You can clearly see the answer to your question here: http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1591778&cid=31735632, “very bold claims for someone who writes SPYWARE” — followed by many credible sources which state that very FACT, so of course you cannot accuse ME of libeling you, as that is to the best of my knowledge and in good faith a FACT, and so CANNOT be libel! But of course any real lawyer could have told you this; I suggest you fire your imaginary lawyer, he isn’t worth the imaginary money you pay him.
Alexander Peter Kristopeit bought his basement from his mommy for one dollar.
"I'm not afraid of you. I'm not refusing to answer your question." - by clone53421 (1310749) on Monday April 05, @11:58PM (#31744654)
B.S., plain & simple: See my subject-line above - you ought to be more in fear of your big libellous mouth though!
So - Why won't you answer my question then? Again:
Just say "YES" or "NO" to if you are saying I am a malware maker/spyware maker (all the titles you libelled me with). Remember- a YES or NO will do to my questions in that regard.
That's all - pretty simple!
(Also - Since you're this "legal expert"? Then, I am asking YOU to stop libelling me, for one thing, as I feel that you have numerous times now here... however, after all your evasive b.s. here, well - I would just like a straight answer to my question of "Are you calling me a malware maker/spyware maker and hacker/cracker?")
That's all.
After all - You shot your mouth off earlier, pretty righteously & "courageously", directing libellous comments my way, now why are you SO "reluctant to answer" suddenly?
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"However I suggest that you look up the definition of "libel" before making a fool of yourself further; statements made in good faith and reasonably believed to be true are NOT libelous." - by clone53421 (1310749) on Monday April 05, @09:33PM (#31743950)
I suggest you answer my question of "Are you saying I am a malware maker/spyware maker etc. & a hacker/cracker?"
NOW - On "good faith"?
Ok - Earlier, I told you what happened a couple times now, & not just to myself, & that it happens to myself, folks like Nir Sofer, Dr. Mark Russinovich of Microsoft even had his wares listed as malwares...
In fact, as I said before?
Write Nir Sofer of NIRSOFT yourself, or Dr. Mark Russinovich too in this regards (for the 4th or 5th time by now I've told you of this).
So you know also - I also wrote + DIRECTLY CALLED Mr. Greg Jensen of Computer Associates, & PASSED Computer Associates' 21 points of questions too, around 1 yr. ago in fact, violating NONE of their constraints/conditions in fact, not a single one in that test!
(Yet, my app's listed there, albeit NOW with zero threat levels though!)
So, it's just that like PING which can be used for a "ping of death", it can be a 'double-edged sword'... so - You've now been informed to the CONTRARY of your beliefs, and now your "good faith" b.s.? Gone... like it was when I wrote this all up before here many times.
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"I eagerly await the letter from your fictional attorney. Will it be written in invisible ink?" - by clone53421 (1310749) on Monday April 05, @09:33PM (#31743950)
I eagerly await your answer to my question above, in bold, with a YES or NO answer... & your "credible sources"? They already made my app have "ZERO" (as in 0) threat levels... I'd look again, were I you!
APK
P.S.=> I'll tell you 1 thing though: You're nothing but a libellous little coward, hiding behind his "nick/handle" (whatever) online on a forums - that's it, & you're also one whose never done anything of note in this art & science, @ least afaik (so, basically, you're nothing really to me, other than a libeller)... apk
"I have concluded from the previous quotes that your stupid software is malware." - by clone53421 (1310749) on Tuesday April 06, @12:32AM (#31744834)
Man - You surely do "talk a 'BIG GAME'", but, you have nothing to show that you've ever done that anyone ever noted as good, especially when I have asked if you have done anything like the list I can produce (only partial no less) in seconds.
(I have an entire LIST of that much, which you've already seen (commercially sold wares too with my code in them))...
Do you? So, what EXACTLY makes you an "expert" on anything in this science then??
Nothing that I saw.
QUESTION: Do you even have a degree around this field (CSC or CIS)? No mere certification applies, especially with software engineering/programming... that's nothing compared to actual degrees + decades of hands-on experience in the trenches...
APK
"You, on the other hand, are a moron and I have no wish to continue arguing with someone as incoherent and stupid as you." - by clone53421 (1310749) on Tuesday April 06, @12:32AM (#31744834)
You care to meet me in person, so you can talk like that to me with all your name tossing, "Mr. NOBODY"? I call you that, because you haven't shown me that you are in fact, an expert, nor are you even KNOWN for anything good in this art & science of computing.
So - As far as me being "stupid" (or any of the numerous names a "brave hero" (not) like you has called me), well...
The day you can do all of this (or more) & get the same notoriety (including your code in commercially sold programs as I have)? Then, you can talk:
"My Name is Ozymandias: King of Kings - Look upon my works, ye mighty, & DESPAIR..."
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Windows NT Magazine (now Windows IT Pro) April 1997 "BACK OFFICE PERFORMANCE" issue, page 61
(&, for work done for EEC Systems/SuperSpeed.com on PAID CONTRACT (writing portions of their SuperCache program increasing its performance by up to 40% via my work) albeit, for their SuperDisk & HOW TO APPLY IT, took them to a finalist position @ MS Tech Ed, two years in a row 2000-2002, in its HARDEST CATEGORY: SQLServer Performance Enhancement).
WINDOWS MAGAZINE, 1997, "Top Freeware & Shareware of the Year" issue page 210, #1/first entry in fact (my work is there)
PC-WELT FEB 1998 - page 84, again, my work is featured there
WINDOWS MAGAZINE, WINTER 1998 - page 92, insert section, MUST HAVE WARES, my work is again, there
PC-WELT FEB 1999 - page 83, again, my work is featured there
CHIP Magazine 7/99 - page 100, my work is there
GERMAN PC BOOK, Data Becker publisher "PC Aufrusten und Repairen" 2000, where my work is contained in it
HOT SHAREWARE Numero 46 issue, pg. 54 (PC ware mag from Spain), 2001 my work is there, first one featured, yet again!
Also, a British PC Mag in 2002 for many utilities I wrote, saw it @ BORDERS BOOKS but didn't buy it... by that point, I had moved onto other areas in this field besides coding only...
Lastly, being paid for an article that made me money over @ PCPitstop in 2008 for writing up a guide that has people showing NO VIRUSES/SPYWARES & other screwups, via following its point, such as THRONKA sees here -> http://www.xtremepccentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=ee926d913b81bf6d63c3c7372fd2a24c&t=28430&page=3
(That last one's also featured here as one of your "ESSENTIAL GUIDES" -> http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?s=ded3dfdba4dba2091d4d73d674bbfdf6&showtopic=602537 )
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What do I have to say about that much above? I can't say it any better, than this was stated already (from the greatest book of all time, the "tech manual for life" imo):
"But by the grace of God I am what I am: and his grace which was bestowed upon me was not in vain; but I labored more abundantly than they all: yet not I, but the grace of God which was with me." - Corinthians Chapter 10, Verse 10
(And, because I got LUCKY to have been exposed to some really GREAT classmates, professsors, & colleagues on the job over time as well)
APK
P.S.=> However, you, by way of comparison? You obviously have NEVER done anything like I have above (which is only a PARTIAL LIST, some of my favorites)... I can say that, because I asked you that before! I mean, for instance: Do you even have a CSC or CIS degree to your name?? Somehow, I doubt it.
Do you even work w/in the field of computing as a network administrator or programmer-analyst/software engineer & for more than a decade
THOR SCHMUCK!
LOL, man... that's your "credible source"? The guy is a FAT GOOF, with no CSC or CIS degree to his name, nor any accomplishments of note that anyone in written publication ever wrote up as good no less... unbelievable!
(What a "credible source", lol, that guys' a SERIOUS "fake it till you make it" type online, what w/ his "Who wants to be the next internet millionaire" b.s., which from what I understand, he lost on anyhow, being the "self promoter" that he is)
Did you see his answer to what I wrote him at your "credible source"? Show us the URL where you got your "source" & then I will put up my replies & questions to him (which he had to blow off, because he knows I am correct and that he is nothing but a nobody who only "takes shots" @ others online, doubtless due to his own failings in this art & science of computing).
You can even tell that obese buffoon I said that.
APK
P.S.=> I suggest you look @ computer associates page again, & see they list my app with ZERO threat levels, & indicate it can only be used POTENTIALLY by others to do mischief (then again, so could PING ala it's "ping of death").
Now, you also don't see "Thor Shmuck" list any of Dr. Mark Russinovich's wares, do you? Microsoft'd sue the LIFE out of him is why & he knows it too...
However, that's actually happened to Dr. Mark Russinovich, same as has happened to me on 1 my wares (email him, ask him yourself in fact)
OR
Email Nir Sofer of NIRSOFT & see if that's happened to him too (he's pretty well known in the freeware world too)... just like it happened to me!
Now, & even though I did not VIOLATE A SINGLE 1 of the 21 QUESTIONS Computer Associates has on their removal test regarding that 1 app I wrote ( for good reasons too, not malicious ones )?
CA still lists my app there (albeit, with ZERO threat levels). I passed their 21 question test, with PERFECT score too (by not violating their constraints) & yet they still have it up there, 1 yr. later... unbelievable - pursuing it legally though, I told you of that much (that an attorney out of Rochester NY told me I had a winning case, but relatively big companies like CA will drag an attorney thru courts for a decade - even though the attorney estimated I had a winning case, for $150,000 U.S. Dollars? His 1/3 take would be exhausted FAR before that. Not worht it to he, in other words, for that reason alone!)
That used to "tick me off" some, but it's only a matter of time before they go under I figure (their security suite, for instance? The place I used to work back in 2006 used to use it, & it hosed all their emails! We pulled it, had to... even though we SOLD IT FOR THEM, lol!)
Some "testimonial", eh? In fact, Greg Jensen of CA said he did not get some of my emails due to "email problems" (lol, gee - wonder where THOSE came from (can you say CA Security Suite))?
Man, look - Instead of being a libelling little coward? Go get a degree in this field, & do something with your life of worth!
Also, IF you're going to cite sources? Get a CREDIBLE one @ least (CA's better than "Thor Schmuck", lol - so much for your "credible sources" - that fat fools a bigger nobody than YOU are!)... apk
See subject-line above:
First of all - Tell us if YOU, or Thor Schmuck (your "credible reliable reputable source" etc. (not)), actually possess degrees around the art & science of computing (or any really, I am curious on this account).
This is to see if you are this "expert" you seem to THINK you are. I already KNOW you haven't done anything of good note int his field in written respected publications, so that much is taken care of in that regard.
Ask your "Credible Source", Thor Schmuck, if he also lists PING.EXE (because it can or could do a PING OF DEATH), or if he lists SPYBOT SEARCH & DESTROY on his list (because it alters the HOSTS file, & CA says "that's bad", but, funny they don't list Spybot S&D either, eh?)
I mean, lol, look @ your "legal expertise" here (quoting you):
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http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1607692&cid=31743626
"In case you didn't already know this, changing your IP address to defeat Slashdot's anti-spam mechanism constitutes both fraudulently misrepresenting yourself (A CRIME, as I already told you) and also considered unauthorized access to a computer system (HACKING)." - by clone53421 (1310749) on Monday April 05, @08:25PM (#31743416)
Oh, really? Care to show me a legal precedent OR ruling of that being the case, were I switching IP addresses to overcome the "10 posts per 24 hour limit" on AC users? I sign off as APK, so I am NOT "misrepresenting myself" here, in case you hadn't noticed, lol!
(Now, on "changing IP addy"? Uhm, who says I am doing THAT anyhow to beat the restriction - and so what IF I did? I could just as easily say I turned off my modem & PC, & upon restarting it?? I have a new IP address... pretty simple - I'd like to see you backup that b.s., with legal evidence to what you said, because, anyone can turn off their modem & upon restarting be assigned a new IP address, assuming they don't have a STATIC IP!)
Produce some US legal documentation of what you just said... thanks! I, for one, would like to see it - because it appaernty wouldn't account for folks that keep their power off when not using a system... so, show us your LEGAL proof of what you stated now above, ok?
NOW - You show me that, all of it, dated before you said this? I'll be glad to abide by it!
Additionally, so you know?
Well - Despite your calling me a malware maker & what not? I have written the most comprehensive security guide there is online, current version built in late 2007, as my New Year's Resolution of "do the right thing" & pay it forward... (&, the FIRST SECURITY GUIDE FOR WINDOWS afaik, back in 1997 @ NTCompatible.com for Windows NT-based systems... so, so much for your libelling me calling me a malware maker!) & it's gone well over 350,000++ views, to good review, testimonials of its efficacy, being made an "ESSENTIAL GUIDE" or "STICKY THREAD" on 15/20 forums its featured on, & more!
PROOFS/EXAMPLES OF ITS EFFICACY? Ok:
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HOW TO SECURE Windows 2000/XP/Server 2003, & even VISTA/Windows 7 (+ make it "fun-to-do" via CIS Tool Guidance & beyond):
http://www.tcmagazine.com/forums/index.php?s=568d95985ad83ef4add94de09f6026d3&showtopic=2662
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It works, & is based on the concept you lay out via your quoted words above - what computer security folks the past few years have been calling "LAYERED SECURITY"...
Proofs to its efficacy?
Ok, some quoted testimonials:
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http://www.xtremepccentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=672ebdf47af75a0c5b0d9e7278be305f&t=28430&page=2
"I recently, months ago when you finally got this guide done,
See subject-line above - because you've been LIBELLING ME HERE, rampantly, & pursuing me thru 3 diff. exchanges I was having with others (go for it):
First of all - Tell us if YOU, or Thor Schmuck (your "credible reliable reputable source" etc. (not)), actually possess degrees around the art & science of computing (or any really, I am curious on this account).
This is to see if you are this "expert" you seem to THINK you are. I already KNOW you haven't done anything of good note int his field in written respected publications, so that much is taken care of in that regard.
Ask your "Credible Source", Thor Schmuck, if he also lists PING.EXE (because it can or could do a PING OF DEATH), or if he lists SPYBOT SEARCH & DESTROY on his list (because it alters the HOSTS file, & CA says "that's bad", but, funny they don't list Spybot S&D either, eh?)
I mean, lol, look @ your "legal expertise" here (quoting you):
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http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1607692&cid=31743626
"In case you didn't already know this, changing your IP address to defeat Slashdot's anti-spam mechanism constitutes both fraudulently misrepresenting yourself (A CRIME, as I already told you) and also considered unauthorized access to a computer system (HACKING)." - by clone53421 (1310749) on Monday April 05, @08:25PM (#31743416)
Oh, really? Care to show me a legal precedent OR ruling of that being the case, were I switching IP addresses to overcome the "10 posts per 24 hour limit" on AC users? I sign off as APK, so I am NOT "misrepresenting myself" here, in case you hadn't noticed, lol!
(Now, on "changing IP addy"? Uhm, who says I am doing THAT anyhow to beat the restriction - and so what IF I did? I could just as easily say I turned off my modem & PC, & upon restarting it?? I have a new IP address... pretty simple - I'd like to see you backup that b.s., with legal evidence to what you said, because, anyone can turn off their modem & upon restarting be assigned a new IP address, assuming they don't have a STATIC IP!)
Produce some US legal documentation of what you just said... thanks! I, for one, would like to see it - because it appaernty wouldn't account for folks that keep their power off when not using a system... so, show us your LEGAL proof of what you stated now above, ok?
NOW - You show me that, all of it, dated before you said this? I'll be glad to abide by it!
Additionally, so you know?
Well - Despite your calling me a malware maker & what not? I have written the most comprehensive security guide there is online, current version built in late 2007, as my New Year's Resolution of "do the right thing" & pay it forward... (&, the FIRST SECURITY GUIDE FOR WINDOWS afaik, back in 1997 @ NTCompatible.com for Windows NT-based systems... so, so much for your libelling me calling me a malware maker!) & it's gone well over 350,000++ views, to good review, testimonials of its efficacy, being made an "ESSENTIAL GUIDE" or "STICKY THREAD" (even MOST VIEWED or top 10 usually) on 15/20 forums its featured on, & more!
PROOFS/EXAMPLES OF ITS EFFICACY? Ok:
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HOW TO SECURE Windows 2000/XP/Server 2003, & even VISTA/Windows 7 (+ make it "fun-to-do" via CIS Tool Guidance & beyond):
http://www.tcmagazine.com/forums/index.php?s=568d95985ad83ef4add94de09f6026d3&showtopic=2662
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It works, & is based on the concept of what many computer security folks the past few years have been calling "LAYERED SECURITY"...
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http://www.xtremepccentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=672ebdf47af75a0c5b0d9e7278be305f&t=28430&page=2
Per my subject-line above, you are no "expert" it seems... otherwise, you'd have put out what you've done (& yes, I'd check it out, why not? Then, I'd know who I am talking to, & could at least respect you as a peer). Obviously, you are no peer to me in the sciences of computing.
Now: YOU'BE BEEN CALLING ME MALWARE AUTHOR/SPYWWARE AUTHOR/MALWARE MAKER THRU NUMEROUS POSTS OF YOURS HERE... think I am going to "lay down like a dog & take it", especially from "the likes of you" complete with your profanities & name calling directed my way, as you libel me? No senor, I will not!
Get it?? Fight fire, WITH HOTTER FIRE, is my motto.
So please, in regards to your calling me a spyware maker - Tell us if YOU, or Thor Schmuck (your "credible reliable reputable source" etc. (not)), actually possess degrees around the art & science of computing (or any really, I am curious on this account).
This is to see if you are this "expert" you seem to THINK you are. I already KNOW you haven't done anything of good note int his field in written respected publications, so that much is taken care of in that regard.
Ask your "Credible Source", Thor Schmuck, if he also lists PING.EXE (because it can or could do a PING OF DEATH), or if he lists SPYBOT SEARCH & DESTROY on his list (because it alters the HOSTS file, & CA says "that's bad", but, funny they don't list Spybot S&D either, eh?)
I mean, lol, look @ your "legal expertise" here (quoting you):
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http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1607692&cid=31743626
"In case you didn't already know this, changing your IP address to defeat Slashdot's anti-spam mechanism constitutes both fraudulently misrepresenting yourself (A CRIME, as I already told you) and also considered unauthorized access to a computer system (HACKING)." - by clone53421 (1310749) on Monday April 05, @08:25PM (#31743416)
Oh, really? Care to show me a legal precedent OR ruling of that being the case, were I switching IP addresses to overcome the "10 posts per 24 hour limit" on AC users? I sign off as APK, so I am NOT "misrepresenting myself" here, in case you hadn't noticed, lol!
(Now, on "changing IP addy"? Uhm, who says I am doing THAT anyhow to beat the restriction - and so what IF I did? I could just as easily say I turned off my modem & PC, & upon restarting it?? I have a new IP address... pretty simple - I'd like to see you backup that b.s., with legal evidence to what you said, because, anyone can turn off their modem & upon restarting be assigned a new IP address, assuming they don't have a STATIC IP!)
Produce some US legal documentation of what you just said... thanks! I, for one, would like to see it - because it appaernty wouldn't account for folks that keep their power off when not using a system... so, show us your LEGAL proof of what you stated now above, ok?
NOW - You show me that, all of it, dated before you said this? I'll be glad to abide by it!
Additionally, so you know?
Well - Despite your calling me a malware maker & what not? I have written the most comprehensive security guide there is online, current version built in late 2007, as my New Year's Resolution of "do the right thing" & pay it forward... (&, the FIRST SECURITY GUIDE FOR WINDOWS afaik, back in 1997 @ NTCompatible.com for Windows NT-based systems... so, so much for your libelling me calling me a malware maker!) & it's gone well over 350,000++ views, to good review, testimonials of its efficacy, being made an "ESSENTIAL GUIDE" or "STICKY THREAD" (even MOST VIEWED or top 10 usually) on 15/20 forums its featured on, & more!
PROOFS/EXAMPLES OF ITS EFFICACY? Ok:
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HOW TO SECURE Windows 2000/XP/Server 2003, & even VISTA/Windows 7 (+ make it "fun-to-do" via CIS Tool Guidance & beyond):
"So... you are not going to sue me" - by clone53421 (1310749) on Tuesday April 06, @02:07PM (#31751306)
No, but I certainly could - you provided the ammo for it, & you even implied that AND that I certainly could!
Question is/was - ARE YOU WORTH IT? ANSWER = No, not really...
HOWEVER, & this is actually "the good part" of your trolling me here, & your libelling me as you have? Well - YOU did me a favor actually, & I tend to make lemonade out of life's lemons... How?
Well, since a fat douche like "Thor Schmuck" (your 'credible source' (not, the guy doesn't even have a CSC degree (nor do you apparently) or CIS degree afaik) doesn't really know this science & I showed that much on his website (right @ your source url in fact, which YOU failed to provide no less, but I found it nevertheless easily enough).
(Well - Other than SEO Optimization cheating, lol, being the "self-promoter" he is)
THOR "SCHMUCK", right alongside w/ he is CA in fact, providing the fuel for those like you to libel me futher with... & they are worth pursuing, you are only helping my case in fact in your using their erroneous b.s. data!
I.E.-> They ARE the ones providing the source libelling me... and YOU turned around and used said libel as information vs. myself?? You have provided ME, ammo vs. they, in the future (now THEY I know, especially CA, are worth ca$h & are worth pursuing actually) in they making you feel/think that way, about myself (if sincere, I doubt it on your end, because you could have read more OR hopefully know better now that I showed you what is below & earlier too).
So, in a "strange way" here?
THANK YOU!
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"and never intended to." - by clone53421 (1310749) on Tuesday April 06, @02:07PM (#31751306)
Nope, you're just a MINOR annoyance actually... See, because arguments on tech stuff? That's no biggie... but, when YOU started libelling me, and trolling me/stalking ME through 4-5 of my posts here? That's ANOTHER matter, entirely, & off topic too!
Then, I got a WEE bit upset at, until I realized that oddly enough, per my last paragraphs above, you have helped me in a way (albeit, not w/ your trolling/stalking me thru 4-5 of my posts here though, but the libelling of myself by yourself w/ b.s. information I can tear apart & did here, in seconds)...
However - because I see you posting around here ALL DAY LONG & ALL NIGHT LONG, & to me? That only means you are jobless, & thus, probably penniless... so what's the point bringing suit against someone with nothing to their name?? No point @ all, because you "can't get blood from a stone"...
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"You're just harassing me with threats of legal action that you fully intend not to carry out." - by clone53421 (1310749) on Tuesday April 06, @02:07PM (#31751306)
Actually, I was NICE here & warned you that YOUR biggest problem, is your libellous mouth - I'd watch it were I you. In this life & not just online, because you do such things without looking into them & BOTH sides of a story, first!
E.G.-> Where I am from? Not only will that get you sued, by the well to do, but beaten up within an inch of your life or killed (by those less fortunate, bad neighborhoods around here, 12th worst city for economy in USA, & 3rd in violent crime last I checked).
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"Yeah, that's what I thought all along..." - by clone53421 (1310749) on Tuesday April 06, @02:07PM (#31751306)
Oh, on the "thinking" part on your end? Don't give yourself TOO MUCH CREDIT (or a headache or brain hemorrhage in attempting to do so, lol, because I know that THOUGHT? Is a "new concept" for you, lmao!)
For example, I mean - See subject-line above:
First of all - Tell us if YOU, or Thor Schmuck (your "credible reliable reputable source" etc. (
Actions speak louder than words, apk, and I notice that you’ve stopped stalking me via my profile here and posting harassing, off-topic replies in response to all of my comments (just as I demanded, and as the law backs me up, you had to).
Apparently you do have some regard for the law, or are afraid of getting caught breaking it anyway.
As far as suing me? Go right ahead. You have no case.
Alexander Peter Kristopeit bought his basement from his mommy for one dollar.
"Actions speak louder than words, apk, and I notice that you've stopped stalking me via my profile here and posting harassing, off-topic replies in response to all of my comments (just as I demanded, and as the law backs me up, you had to)." - by clone53421 (1310749) on Tuesday April 06, @06:05PM (#31754900)
LOL!
FIRST: What gives you the idea I was stalking you? Buddy - I work, and am finishing off another degree: My days? Are actually BUSY AS HELL - I have things to do (make ca$h, AND, getting another bachelor's degree in CSC (A.A.S. part's done, 92 credits into the 120 towards the bachelors after this semester's done in fact, in CSC to go along with my MIS/B.S. Business too, both related & perfectly along what I do for a living for 16++ yrs. now professionally - Information Systems work (Databasing really)).
Also - I only replied here when you did, & you came here to me (and in other posts of mine here too no less - so who is "stalking" WHOM here?). The law also doesn't "back you up" for libelling me, get over yourself (or, are you in fact, an attorney @ law? No, doubt it... unless you tell me otherwise).
SECONDLY: Man - you sit around here, ALL DAY, & all night posting (& based on your reply speed here, just waiting for me to post, lol!)...
Given that observation so far of you on my part here?
Do you think you're WORTH a suit??
Obviously not.
You don't have a job, & thus no monetary worth... so how would you be worth suing?? Answer - you're not.
(So, even though you libelled me continuously here, there is no payoff or reward/compensation for damages possible out of you, period... (and provided me ammo showing that CA & "THOR SCHMUCK" 's erroneous information about my single app, & those of many others such as Nir Sofer & Dr. Mark Russinovich having had this happen to they too, only helps me out... it shows THEY are misleading others is all - so thank you for that much I "guess" in an offhand/lefthand kind of way!))
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"Apparently you do have some regard for the law" - by clone53421 (1310749) on Tuesday April 06, @06:05PM (#31754900)
Always have, or Thor SCHMUCKS site would be DOS'd or DDOS'd in seconds, & CA along with he... but, I don't HAVE to do that - I was already TOLD I have a winner vs. they both, by an attorney who specializes in it, but, he wants too much money for his "work" is all... there are others like he, so, it's only a matter of time, shopping for a cheaper deal for me to go after they, AND OF COURSE, watching those like you, be misled by they as well (helping me in your doing so, vs. they, as I stated before).
Simple!
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"or are afraid of getting caught breaking it anyway." - by clone53421 (1310749) on Tuesday April 06, @06:05PM (#31754900)
Caught? For what?? Defending myself against someone who stalked me ALL OVER THIS article's posts where I posted, & defending myself vs. you LIBELLING me?? Yea, ok... lol!
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"As far as suing me? Go right ahead. You have no case." - by clone53421 (1310749) on Tuesday April 06, @06:05PM (#31754900)
SMALL CORRECTION: NO, YOU HAVE NO WORTH OR MONEY & your constant posting here at all hours around the clock tells me so... simple!
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First of all - Tell us if YOU, or Thor Schmuck (your "credible reliable reputable source" etc. (not)), actually possess degrees around the art & science of computing (or any really, I am curious on this account). Additionally, per my subject-line above, are you an attorney that is licensed to practice?
No. I will answer FOR you.
This is also to see if you are this "expert" you seem to THINK you are. I already KNOW you haven't done anything of good note int his field in written respected publications, so that much is taken care of in that regard.
Ask your "Credible Source", Thor Schmuck, if he also lists PI
"Actions speak louder than words" - by clone53421 (1310749) on Tuesday April 06, @06:05PM (#31754900)
You're right, & in my case especially (vs. your "mere words" whilst you post on /. all day long?)
Well, here, instead of wasting time as you clearly do here??
I instead:
1.) Make monies
2.) Am further educating myself (heading way, Way, WAY past the A.A.S. degree level now this year, after a long absence from academia in fact, in CSC credits heading WELL into the B.S. range (92/120 done here in fact, after this semester, & in the last 2 semesters?? I have "batted off" 4 A's of 8 classes in that major no less!
(That's really not a "huge trick" for myself, as I have been actually working in this field for 16++ yrs. now as a pro, but, still work (& yes, I am actually learning stuff too, bonus!))).
And, living a decent & happy life!
So, that "all said & aside"... Yes, actions DO speak louder than your ALL DAY LONG - NO JOB WORDS POSTING ON /.... how so?
I'll provide the example (try it sometime):
"My Name is Ozymandias: King of Kings - Look upon my works, ye mighty, & DESPAIR..."
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Windows NT Magazine (now Windows IT Pro) April 1997 "BACK OFFICE PERFORMANCE" issue, page 61
(&, for work done for EEC Systems/SuperSpeed.com on PAID CONTRACT (writing portions of their SuperCache program increasing its performance by up to 40% via my work) albeit, for their SuperDisk & HOW TO APPLY IT, took them to a finalist position @ MS Tech Ed, two years in a row 2000-2002, in its HARDEST CATEGORY: SQLServer Performance Enhancement).
WINDOWS MAGAZINE, 1997, "Top Freeware & Shareware of the Year" issue page 210, #1/first entry in fact (my work is there)
PC-WELT FEB 1998 - page 84, again, my work is featured there
WINDOWS MAGAZINE, WINTER 1998 - page 92, insert section, MUST HAVE WARES, my work is again, there
PC-WELT FEB 1999 - page 83, again, my work is featured there
CHIP Magazine 7/99 - page 100, my work is there
GERMAN PC BOOK, Data Becker publisher "PC Aufrusten und Repairen" 2000, where my work is contained in it
HOT SHAREWARE Numero 46 issue, pg. 54 (PC ware mag from Spain), 2001 my work is there, first one featured, yet again!
Also, a British PC Mag in 2002 for many utilities I wrote, saw it @ BORDERS BOOKS but didn't buy it... by that point, I had moved onto other areas in this field besides coding only...
Lastly, being paid for an article that made me money over @ PCPitstop in 2008 for writing up a guide that has people showing NO VIRUSES/SPYWARES & other screwups, via following its point, such as THRONKA sees here -> http://www.xtremepccentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=ee926d913b81bf6d63c3c7372fd2a24c&t=28430&page=3
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What do I have to say about that much above? I can't say it any better, than this was stated already (from the greatest book of all time, the "tech manual for life" imo):
"But by the grace of God I am what I am: and his grace which was bestowed upon me was not in vain; but I labored more abundantly than they all: yet not I, but the grace of God which was with me." - Corinthians Chapter 10, Verse 10
(And, because I got LUCKY to have been exposed to some really GREAT classmates, professors, & colleagues on the job over time as well)
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ADDITIONALLY - Despite your calling me a malware maker & what not?
I have written the most comprehensive Windows NT-based OS security guide there is online, and even got PAID for it no less, in its current version built in late 2007, as my New Year's Resolution of "do the right thing" & pay it forward... (&, the FIRST SECURITY GUIDE FOR WINDOWS afaik, back in 19