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Once again, human beings are making the assumption that the world in which we live, must be centered around us. We live in an ecosystem which includes us as a HUGE varible; too often we are assuming that we live outside this system.
By making computer interaction, "more human", we ignore the millions of other lifeforms on earth that could benefit from a SYNTHESIS of our differences to create a better computer, not just for us, but for everything.

Ryan Anderson.
Randerson@ubc.ca

PETA
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Acting Legend Keanu Reeves [imdb.com] was pronounced dead at the scene of a auto accident in Malibu Canyon in California, USA.
Gangly, vacant-looking young actor who has proven himself a skilled screen performer in a surprising variety of roles, from Marlon James in the 1990 docu-drama I Love You to Death [imdb.com], to the enigmatic Ortiz the Dog Boy in the 1993 classic Freaked! [imdb.com]
Openly Gay, Reeves never recovered professionally after the 1993 death of life partner River Phoenix [imdb.com]
Memorials can be made in his name to PETA [peta-online.org]

Acting Legend Keanu Reeves was pronounced dead at the scene of a auto accident in Malibu Canyon in California, USA.
Gangly, vacant-looking young actor who has proven himself a skilled screen performer in a surprising variety of roles, from Marlon James in the 1990 docu-drama I Love You to Death, to the enigmatic Ortiz the Dog Boy in the 1993 classic Freaked!
Openly Gay, Reeves never recovered professionally after the 1993 death of life partner River Phoenix
Memorials can be made in his name to PETA

Searching through both websites (http://www.animalliberationfront.com and http://www.peta-online.org), I can find no indication that the ALF is part of PETA.

I also did a search for ALF PETA relationship on Google, and while I couldn't find any evidence that ALF is part of PETA, I did find this quote from this article.

"She [Newkirk] said her group does not fund the ALF but once did. 'In the early '90s, it was a very different group, well-organized, and generated a lot of sympathy. But they dissolved. ... Now they're just angry, and act without planning,' she said." (New York Daily News, Dec. 12, 1997).

So it appears that Dr. Lee is attributing the work of ALF to PETA, but I'm not so sure that should be the case.

PETA does not, however, condem the actions of ALF, so you can take from that what you will.

This is a letter I sent to info@peta-online.org, terminating my relationship with such an organization.
I urge you to do the same if you also think that our basic constitutional rights should be considered by such self-righteous organizations.

Hello,

I would like to start this letter by stating that will no longer donate to any PETA connected funds. It is a sad and hard decision to make, but the PETA's official conduct has forced it on me. Having been an active contributor of both time and money to a cause I still consider valid, I cannot endorse an organization that blatantly ignores basic constitutional rights.

The events that led to my decision are those related to the PETA.ORG affair. Since you made the unfortunate decision of going the .COM way (not the most appropriate, when Internet RFC's clearly advise that an organization such as yours should go with a .ORG domain), and relinquished the opportunity to register any other top level domains, you clearly stated that they were open for third parties to take. When PETA.ORG was taken, and filled with satirical information, it was done in a manner NOT easily confused with your own site PETA.COM. PETA.ORG's content in particular was not supposed to be taken as factual, or insulting as such, but comedic, and light hearted, since most intelligent human beings can distinguish both types of presentation. Apparently your staff cannot. And with the exhibited behavior have shown that they don't even care about our own constitutional rights. Perhaps the PETA's line of though is that it is above the Nation's clearly stated rights, or that it can play on the obvious ignorance of a few magistrates to twist the law as they see fit.

All this is, as I've said, reason enough for me to terminate any relation I may have or might have had with the PETA, as of today I list your organization in the black book of those that try to diminish our personal freedom, and feel ashamed of any relation between myself and your organization.

With no further subject, may your supporters see the error of their ways, as I have.

While surfing on the Web, I came accross http://www.peta-online.org which prominently shows a small banner bearing the face of Ronald McDonald, and the writing "Unhappy Meals", which looks uncomfortably close to your "Happy Meals" trademark. You might want to draw your legal team's attention to this dilution of your trademark.

Your faithfully,
xxx

There's nothing wrong with being vegetarian. I don't happen to be, but there are valid reasons for it. Peta, however, is a pretty radical organization in my opinion. I can see not wanting to harm mammals, which do a pretty good job of acting like sentient beings. But, they go far beyond wanting to help cute bunnies and friendly cows.

Take a look here for example. Not only should you give up beef to save the cows, but you should give up honey to save bees and give up silk to save worms! This is what lost the last shred of credibility I had for PETA. I mean, insects? By this logic it's immoral for me to rid my house of termites because I would be cruelly murdering thousands or millions of innocent, sentient, insects for my own financial well-being. Whatever. By this definition of moral behavior, it is virtually impossible to live your life at all. My recommendation for all PETA members is to save the planet: kill yourself. Except that that would deprive all the innocent E. Coli in your guts a home. Oh well. At least the rest of us will be rid or your misguided guilt about your own existence.

It's buried, but here's the email address for the US : info@peta-online.org Other countries can be found at: http://www.peta-online.org/about/cont act.html

It's buried, but here's the email address for the US : info@peta-online.org Other countries can be found at: http://www.peta-online.org/about/cont act.html

I was at a loss to contact them as well, *BUT* then I found this link: Send mail to PETA which was originally listed at the very bottom in tiny letters as "Questions/Comments". I sent my well-reasoned and logical email right away. I encourage others to contact PETA as well, but please don't just flame away....if you present arguments rather than attacks, they might be more inclined to listen.

That's the closed thing to a contact I found.

Definitely.. saying nice things goes much farther..

-V

The "E-Mail Peta" link is simply a link to mail info@peta-online.org. I'm going to write them there.

The "E-Mail Peta" link is simply a link to mail info@peta-online.org. I'm going to write them there.

BTW, I had a classmate who was a Peta member. I'll give you that she and her friends were pretty book smart, but no "logical, rational argument" was going to go anywhere with her. The fervor displayed was more like that at a fundamentalist revival, rather than folx who had come to a conclusion and were ready to defend themselves on an intellectual level. Not that I'm saying not to write (I did), or that you should flame and swear, but keep in mind that you're not dealing with a philisophical issue that people can be easily swayed on.

I can't even find an easy way to contact them on their web site to extend my displeasure in their actions.

I suppose I could always email the adminstrative contact for peta.com.

In fact, I would urge everyone who feels they should reconsider their action to write a NICE email to them. If you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all. By nice I mean not insulting. These are intelligent people who feel they are doing something good. A logical, rational argument will go a LOT further with them than an "Eat flaming metal, PETA weirdos" email.

-Adam

Sensationalizing the plight of animals? Sensationalism has NO place in rational discussion.

I ought to know--I am too! ;)

O'Reilly's draining my bank account. Next theing you know, they're gonna hook up to my credit card, and that will be it. Nothing but O'Reilly books everywhere!

I'll know this has happend when all my cookbooks start sprouting fir and feathers.

Ahh---I just figured it out. PETA must have figured that if they can't free the animals, they might as well have their pictures on all the books in the world. Tim, you shouldn't engage in such comspiracies!

Circus animals are horribly abused - especially elephants. See the PETA website for details.