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While more people find Trump credible than the old-school media, it still less than half the people who find him credible.

They don't.

Sorry, but they don't.

The destruction of credibility of the old-school media was self-inflicted - Trump merely comments on the obvious fact

You mean Trump tries to distract us from the General Sherman stuck in his eye. When your best excuse for your lies is that you don't know what you're saying, you are in serious trouble.

Have you never been directly involved in something that was reported by a journalist?

Dude, one of the first things you learn, whether a police investigator, journalist, or divorce counselor, is that a dozen people can have twenty different stories about the same event.

I don't know. She should probably check the configurations of Jeb Bush's and Rick Perry's private email servers before making a decision.

Well considering that Republicans think Obama was responsible for the Katrina debacle, I wouldn't expect any sane responses at all.
http://politicalwire.com/archives/2013/08/21/louisiana_gop_blame_obama_more_for_katrina_response.html

Rodgers is far from the only Republican who thinks that citizens should shut up and do as they are told.

http://politicalwire.com/archives/2013/04/17/bonus_quote_of_the_day.html

"I am the senator. You are the citizen. You need to be quiet."

-- North Carolina State Senator Tommy Tucker (R), quoted by the Raleigh News and Observer, to Goldsboro News-Argus publisher Hal Tanner who was opposing legislation to change public notice requirements for local government.

Question #1: Why isn't there a Wikipedia page for Tucker featuring these quotes?

Question #2: What will the citizens of North Carolina do so, in two years, they will be able to tell Tucker "We are the citizens. You are no longer the senator. You need to be quiet"?

http://politicalwire.com/archives/2013/04/17/bonus_quote_of_the_day.html

"I am the senator. You are the citizen. You need to be quiet."

-- North Carolina State Senator Tommy Tucker (R), quoted by the Raleigh News and Observer, to Goldsboro News-Argus publisher Hal Tanner who was opposing legislation to change public notice requirements for local government.

Priebus accuses Democrats of supporting infanticide

RNC Chairman Reince Priebus took a break from rebranding the Republican party to accuse Democrats of supporting infanticide.

He writes on Red State: "The President, the Senate Majority Leader, the House Democratic Leader, and the Chair of the Democratic National Committee (in whose home state this hearing occurred) made funding Planned Parenthood an issue in the 2012 campaign. They should now all be held to account for that outspoken support. If the media won't, then voters must ask the pressing questions: Do these Democrats also believe a newborn has no rights? Do they also endorse infanticide?"

http://politicalwire.com/archives/2013/04/03/priebus_accuses_democrats_of_supporting_infanticide.html

Republican links gun control to bestiality

Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-TX) linked his opposition to any gun control legislation to gay marriage and bestiality on a conference call, a recording of which was obtained by Right Wing Watch.

Said Gohmert: "In fact, I had this discussion with some wonderful, caring Democrats earlier this week on the issue of, well, they said "surely you could agree to limit the number of rounds in a magazine, couldn't you? How would that be problematic?"

"And I pointed out, well, once you make it ten, then why would you draw the line at ten? What's wrong with nine? Or eleven? And the problem is once you draw that limit ; it's kind of like marriage when you say it's not a man and a woman any more, then why not have three men and one woman, or four women and one man, or why not somebody has a love for an animal?"

http://politicalwire.com/archives/2013/04/02/lawmaker_links_gun_control_to_bestiality.html

Both of these were just in the last week, by a current member of the House, and the head of the Republican National Committee. These aren't some fringe types yelling from the sidelines, they are mainstream and one is in a national leadership position. This kind of stupid crap is being said by mainstream Republican officials every day. It's so common that it takes a particularly inspired bout of vile accusations to even get reported.

An before you try and justify this slanderous shit by claiming that the Democrats do the same thing: No they don't. No serving Democratic official says anything like this. Note that these are actual quotes from the individuals, not some perverse made up fantasy on Fox News, or as it should be called Fox Pravda

So I'm going to look into this project, and I may contribute some examples like this. It's not like I would have any trouble finding material.

Priebus accuses Democrats of supporting infanticide

RNC Chairman Reince Priebus took a break from rebranding the Republican party to accuse Democrats of supporting infanticide.

He writes on Red State: "The President, the Senate Majority Leader, the House Democratic Leader, and the Chair of the Democratic National Committee (in whose home state this hearing occurred) made funding Planned Parenthood an issue in the 2012 campaign. They should now all be held to account for that outspoken support. If the media won't, then voters must ask the pressing questions: Do these Democrats also believe a newborn has no rights? Do they also endorse infanticide?"

http://politicalwire.com/archives/2013/04/03/priebus_accuses_democrats_of_supporting_infanticide.html

Republican links gun control to bestiality

Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-TX) linked his opposition to any gun control legislation to gay marriage and bestiality on a conference call, a recording of which was obtained by Right Wing Watch.

Said Gohmert: "In fact, I had this discussion with some wonderful, caring Democrats earlier this week on the issue of, well, they said "surely you could agree to limit the number of rounds in a magazine, couldn't you? How would that be problematic?"

"And I pointed out, well, once you make it ten, then why would you draw the line at ten? What's wrong with nine? Or eleven? And the problem is once you draw that limit ; it's kind of like marriage when you say it's not a man and a woman any more, then why not have three men and one woman, or four women and one man, or why not somebody has a love for an animal?"

http://politicalwire.com/archives/2013/04/02/lawmaker_links_gun_control_to_bestiality.html

Both of these were just in the last week, by a current member of the House, and the head of the Republican National Committee. These aren't some fringe types yelling from the sidelines, they are mainstream and one is in a national leadership position. This kind of stupid crap is being said by mainstream Republican officials every day. It's so common that it takes a particularly inspired bout of vile accusations to even get reported.

An before you try and justify this slanderous shit by claiming that the Democrats do the same thing: No they don't. No serving Democratic official says anything like this. Note that these are actual quotes from the individuals, not some perverse made up fantasy on Fox News, or as it should be called Fox Pravda

So I'm going to look into this project, and I may contribute some examples like this. It's not like I would have any trouble finding material.

Tsk, talking about confirmation bias.
http://politicalwire.com/archives/2012/09/26/obama_jumps_in_gallup_tracker.html
http://www.gallup.com/poll/150743/Obama-Romney.aspx
Oh... Gallup suddenly is not that credible anymore, is it?

http://politicalwire.com/archives/2012/08/22/gop_convention_held_in_stadium_built_with_public_funds.html

The Tuesday night session at the Republican National Convention will be themed "We Built This!" in a dual effort to celebrate American entrepreneurship and attack President Obama's infamous comments to business owners.

However, the Daily Dolt reports the stadium was financed primarily with public funds. "The Tampa Bay Times Forum arena, which houses the Tampa Bay Lightning, was built in 1996 as the 'Ice Palace' with 62% government funds. The total budget for the project was $139 million, of which public money accounted for $86 million and team money accounted for $53 million.

Perhaps the RNC should change their slogan to "Someone else built this with mostly government money".

Links to prove the 7:1 claim? In any given race for which I saw figures, Democrats outspent Republicans 4 to 1.

An overall figure shows the Democrats spending $856 million total, while Republicans spent $677 million.

Democrats get money from a lot more sources, including plenty of companies, hollywood moguls, and overseas people with an interest in seeing the US take a certain slant.

A new Pew Research report on American attitudes toward science finds that 55% of scientists identify as Democrats, while 32% identify as independents and just 6% say they are Republicans. When the leanings of independents are considered, fully 81% identify as Democrats or lean to the Democratic Party, compared with 12% who either identify as Republicans or lean toward the GOP

Article I don't expect the facts are any different in my country either.

>WMD actually have been found in Iraq as well as the intent to manufacture them.

After a huge effort with teams of experts and complete freedom to inspect sites and empty out filing cabinets, this is what we found:
The Duelfer Report

>Iraq harbored terrorists and in fact supported the 9/11 attacks.

President Bush says differently. On September 18 2003 he told reports in DC "We have no evidence that Saddam Hussein was involved with the 11 September attacks" . Do you disbelieve the President?

If you disbelieve the President, that has interesting implications. Remember that President Bush has informed us that "God speaks through me". If you don't believe in what the President says, you don't believe in God.

The senior President Bush had this to say about people who don't believe in God: "No, I don't know that atheists should be considered as citizens, nor should they be considered as patriots. This is one nation under God. ".

If you're not a citizen, you don't have the rights of a citizen. There's a court ruling that you don't even have habeas corpus.

Being Anonymous Coward won't help you. The government can subpoena Slashdot or show them a National Security Letter demanding their logs. USAPATRIOT second 215 says they don't even need a court order.

Perhaps you should consider modifying your links to point to more direct and reputable sources of information?

Perhaps if you did a simple google search of the opening paragraph text you'd find the document duplicated across the web. This for example.

Interesting comments. I too tend to believe that there's more to life than simple biomechanics, but IMO the fuss isn't about Evolution vs Intelligent Design or Science vs Religion.

Many (and I'd hope most) of the scientists, teachers and professors who object to including Intelligent Design in science classes aren't objecting because they think Evolution is 100% correct, or because they think Intelligent Design is wrong. They object because Intelligent Design isn't science, by definition of the term "science".

There are two purposes to any science class, in my opinion: one is to teach students what are currently believed to be the most accurate scientific theories, but the other (and perhaps more important) purpose is to teach the scientific method: the method by which those theories are developed.

The main components of the scientific method are observation and experimentation. That is, you observe something, formulate a hypothesis, develop experiments that you can run to test the hypothesis, run the experiment and then see how well your hypothesis holds up. Typically, you'd find that something wasn't exactly the way you thought it would be, so you'd tweak your hypothesis, develop new experiments, and repeat the process ad infinitum. Through this process, you'd inch closer and closer to "the truth".

With Intelligent Design, however, there aren't any experiments that you can run to reliably test the hypothesis. If God is omnipotent, God can alter the outcome of any experiment. Thus, you can never prove or disprove the theory (which, is the whole point of Faith, as I understand it). While that doesn't mean Intelligent Design is wrong, it means it doesn't fit the definition of Science.

Now, many people (including Senator John McCain) wonder why teachers and scientists are so opposed to including Intelligent Design in the curriculum. The problem is that doing so would be an inherent contradition and, as a result, teachers would not be teaching the scientific method, which is the whole point of the class. It would be like teaching that beef is a vegetable in a botany class.

That's not to say that the current scientific theories are all correct. In fact, we know that they're not. One hope of teaching science is to develop the next generation of scientists who can test and refine or change the current theories (or develop new ones) and bring us closer to "the truth". If we teach students that it's acceptible to ignore the results of scientific method in favor of theories that are untestable, then we are crippling our own progress and will slip further and further behind Germany and Japan (for example) in fields like Engineering. Would you want to fly in an airplane whose design was based on theories that are not testable and which contradict what we believe to be the laws of physics? Or, more succinctly, would you fly in an airplane whose design was based on faith?

This is not to say that we should never discuss Intelligent Design at all. I've heard many scientists say that it is a valid topic, just not for a science class (or, at least, not a high-school level science class, in my opinion).

Interestingly, many scientists feel the same way about String Theory as well (which is why this isn't about Science vs Religion). String theory is an attempt to rectify some of the inconsistencies between General Relativity and Quantum Mechanics. The problem is that there's no observable tests for String Theory. So, while it might be true, there's no way we could test it to find out.

At one point (and it may still be the case) there were five versions of string theory, all of which seemed equally valid. But some of those theories contradicted the others. Since none of them could be tested, how would you know which one is correct? Similarly

Gee, I wonder, is this the democracy that we call a "catastropic success", oh, say that Iraq is having right now? Or maybe you're talking about the our wonderfully successful policy of spreading democracy that doesn't work? I'm sure China would love to get some of that action...

Not that much. There are people downthread speculating on what the cabinet departures mean, whether it's a show of lack of confidence in the administration, etc. I am going to repost a comment of mine from another board which has to do with it. Sorry for recycle of a post, but since it is the same subject being discussed I felt it would be silly to write a new post saying the same thing.

I was listening to Powell's departing press conf (well he's not really
departing for some weeks/months) and he stated that he had always
intended to do one term only.

I quickly found a link from over a year ago that said as much.

I was trying to get into the shoes of people like Powell and
Ashcroft. If I had done so many different things and accomplished so
much in life, would I want to do the same exhausting thing for 8 years?
I don't think I would, unless the position had been my life's goal.
Since Powell came through the military, I doubt being Secretary of
State was super-important to him. Same for Ashcroft, who was, IIRC a
state politician up to four years ago and had nothing to do with the
Justice dept.

So maybe it's not so shocking that people are looking to change
careers or retire after 4 years of doing this sort of thing, which must
be extremely draining. The beginning of a new term sounds like a
reasonable time to do so while giving your resignation as little
significance as possible, whereas retiring in the middle of a term
would be viewed as more of a protest.

...his religious delusions of granduer ("God speaks through me")... Oh really? Find me where and when he said that.

Ok: Bush & God

Oh, you mean like that "bimbo eruption" he tried to pin on Kerry back in the primaries that turned out to be such a load of hooey he ended up apologizing to the woman he pointed the finger at?

Yeah, he's a real Beacon of Truth, all right.

also want a weak U.S. President

Or maybe they are just uncomfortable that he thinks he is the voice of God.

That's the exact fucking quote ya moron

Yes, it's the exact fucking quote, but it is not the complete exact fucking quote. The meaning is significantly changed if you include that snippet in the context of his speech. Heck, you didn't even include his whole sentence!

I'll put the quote here, but it won't do any good, because I suspect you're more interested in hating Bush than in correcting yourself. The quote uttered in Lancaster to a group of Amish was "I trust God speaks through me. Without that, I couldn't do my job." Regardless of your opinions on that quote, if you're intellectually honest you have to admit that it implies something very different from your out-of-context snippet.

The quote tells me that Bush believes in God, gains moral strength from believing in God, and trust that he is following Gods will. He most certainly is not claiming to hear voices in his head, as you claim. Instead he's say8ing pretty much what most many Christians do. If your argument against Bush is that he's a Christian, then be honest with yourself and say so. Don't hide being misleading out-of-context quotes.

Yup, he really did. See:
http://politicalwire.com/archives/2004/07/16/quote _of_the_day.html
or
http://www.irregulartimes.com/godspeaksthroughme.h tml
or if you think this is made up by liberals, check out this link to a page for conservatives:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1172948/p osts

At risk of feeding a deliberate troll, you do realize, of course, that:

• "murderous" - "Military shrugs off attack on wedding party"
• "torturing" - More accounts, photos of Iraq abuse surface...
• "liar" - Bush misstated report on Iraq
• " rewarded people who attacked you"
• "spoke fondly of it" - Mission Accomplished!