Domain: protonworld.com
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Re:Well i live in Europe (Belgium)...I agree (at least partially) with most of your post. But I want to react on one of your statements:
Banksys/proton (a private company, being the only one that has the full picture of money flowing nation-wide)
Thanks to Banksys I can withdraw money from any ATM in Belgium, no mather what bank hosts the ATM or which bank issued my bank card. I also can use my bank card to pay in all supermarkets and almost all other shops. I don't think much Belgians should be eager to give up this comfort.
And you mention it's a private company. I suppose you also would complain if it was implemented by the government, as in that case the government has all information on these transactions.
And Proton, an electronic purse for small purchases, is actually not connected to a single person. It's the electronic equivalent to a wallet with small change, and anybody can use such a card (you don't need a PIN code to use it). -
Re:Old news
The company behind proton claims to operate in 16 european and 23 non-european countries, proton exists since 1995. On the belgian market, Banksys (dutch/french lang. only) exploits the system
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Already existsIn a few countries in Europe, digital cash already exists in the form of a smart card that can be "loaded" with money. The chip is integrated on your debit card. It is used to pay small amounts of money.
The card can be charged in an ATM machine, or by a small terminal connected to your PC. You simply log in to a webpage and you can transfer money from your checking account into the chip with your PIN code.Payments on the Internet with this card are also possible.
The system is called 'Proton' in Belgium and 'ChipKnip' in the Netherlands. Some other European countries are using it as well. Check out www.protonworld.com and www.banksys.be -
Payphones in Belgium
Here in Belgium, payphones are now being used for a variety of reasons:
to store money on your Proton card (a Proton card is a chipcard containing an electronic wallet).
to increase the amount of money on the pre-pay card of your cellular telephone (you use the payphone once in a while to make sure your cellular keeps working).
I'm sure other applications can be thought of. Another good reason for keeping them is to make sure that people can call the police when their cellphone is stolen.
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Rijndael team's new cipher
Far from resting on their laurels, the Rijndael team have been busy with new cipher design work. Check out their latest creation, Noekon, designed for simple implementation and resistance to differential power attacks and other side channel attacks.
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Re:Smart card applications the key consideration?
In addition to the open-ended key size of Rijndael, after reading the AES Round 1 report, it looks like smart card applications were a key consideration (possible THE key?).
This shouldn't come as a surprise because John Daemen is currently working for ProtonWorld, a Belgian smart card company. Millions of people here in Belgium are using their e-purse smartcards daily to make small payments. I wouldn't be surprised if RijnDael is the main algorithm behind Proton.
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Re:Smart card applications the key consideration?
In addition to the open-ended key size of Rijndael, after reading the AES Round 1 report, it looks like smart card applications were a key consideration (possible THE key?).
This shouldn't come as a surprise because John Daemen is currently working for ProtonWorld, a Belgian smart card company. Millions of people here in Belgium are using their e-purse smartcards daily to make small payments. I wouldn't be surprised if RijnDael is the main algorithm behind Proton.