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Re:Well ..
Some stress ? Sir, you have a Panic Attack Disorder
Having up and downs ? Well, you have a Bipolar Disorder
Sometimes bored ? That is Attention Deficit Disorder
No, you don't know what you're talking about. A disorder is diagnosed when someone experiences feelings and/or impulses that are well beyond that which a person could be expected to cope with. The experiences could be normal in their content (panic is a normal response to a stressful situation) or in the case of a psychosis totally bizarre.
To take the example of panic, if it can be controlled by some positive thinking, breathing deeply and carrying on, then it's not a disorder by definition. If the individual cannot control it, and it is beginning to seriously affect their life, then it is appropriate to consider diagnosing a 'disorder' and giving treatment. That treatment might just be reassurance and some breathing exercises, it might be medication or a formal psychological therapy - whatever will help.
Someone with bipolar disorder cannot function and live a normal life - they really can't. Their ability to function in the world is severely affected by what they are experiencing, and the change when given treatment can be dramatic. To say they have "ups and downs" is insulting. Same for ADD. There are formal diagnostic criteria for most psychiatric diagnoses that must be fulfilled: DSM-IV and ICD-10.
I do agree that often psychiatric disorders are over-diagnosed, often becuase of a desire not to 'blame' someone for their predicament and find a reason why it's not their fault. But occasional or even frequent mis-diagnosis doesn't mean something isn't real. Lots of people say they have 'flu' when in fact they just have a common cold. If someone really has influenza they will feel absolutely awful and may need medical care (older adults in Britain are given influenza vaccine because many will die if they contract it). Just because lots of people claim to have 'flu' doesn't mean that those who really are suffering from it should be dismissed as 'someone with a cold who's just whineing'.
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Politics and academiaThis is an instance of a decision being made over something that has nothing to do with politics intrinsicly based on politics. The same kind of thing happened in 1973 when homosexuality was removed from the American Psychological Association's big book of diseases. This decision wasn't made because the members of the APA decided homosexuality suddenly did not meet the definition of diseases (which it did, as it is still in the book thinly-veiled under the name Gender Identity Disorder), rather the APA buckled under tremendous political pressure from an aggressive homosexual movement.
Maybe that was a Good Thing, but should decisions like identifying the Best Scientific Achievement of a year and medical decisions of vast importance be something we leave open to the whims of politics? I realize that in this case there was no "buckling" from pressure but it apparently was intended to reflect political shifts of our time. Whatever the case, it just doesn't sit well with me.
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Re:It's a trick!If you go by the DSM IV, under Paranoid Personality Disorder it lists the following:
A pervasive distrust and suspiciousness of others such that their motives are interpreted as malevolent, beginning by early adulthood and present in a variety of contexts, as indicated by four (or more) of the following:
- suspects, without sufficient basis, that others are exploiting, harming, or deceiving him or her
- is preoccupied with unjustified doubts about the loyalty or trustworthiness of friends or associates
- is reluctant to confide in others because of unwarranted fear that the information will be used maliciously against him or her
- reads hidden demeaning or threatening meanings into benign remarks or events
- persistently bears grudges, i.e., is unforgiving of insults, injuries, or slights
- perceives attacks on his or her character or reputation that are not apparent to others and is quick to react angrily or to counterattack
- has recurrent suspicions, without justification, regarding fidelity of spouse or sexual partner
Emphasis mine. But maybe this isn't the same thing as paranoia? -
NAMI
- The DSM IV (diagnostic and statistical manual)
- National Alliance for the Mentally Ill (find your local chapter and get as much support for the rest of the family as for her)
- schizophrenia.com (get literate and read like crazy [oops], and eventually get a sense of humor rather than just crying)
- Voices by Dream Theater, part of A Mind Beside Itself
Don't confuse schizophrenia vs. manic depression with paranoid delusions or other personality disorders. As I understand it, the distinction is that schizophrenics hallucinate (have false senses in realtime, as if something is really seen or heard) whereas that type of manic depressives do not (they may confabulate memories of having seen or heard something).
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Re:Diagnosis
I'm not the author, but here's a link to read more. I want to first warn you though, lacking a psychological specialist background in reading these disorders, is going to cause you to reach conclusions about others that are not accurate(depending on how honest and objective you are about yourself, you'll be wondering if perhaps you don't fit the bill for several of these as well). Some people are just quirky. Some people smoke pot too much, or drink too much. Some people put up fronts as a defensive mechanism, and whatever conclusions you reach based upon your interaction with those fronts, are going to be in error.
http://www.psychologynet.org/dsm.html
Also keep in mind the questionable and theoretical nature of psychology. Personally, I see traits of most major "disorders" in every person I've ever interacted with for long periods of time. But that does not a disorder make. What is ordered? Is it like the majority of Christians who don't forgive, don't turn the other cheek, who supposedly serve "Jesus", while being perfect assholes, doing little to nothing what he taught we ought to do? Or the Muslims who in the name of holiness, commit barbaric and unholy acts? Or perhaps it's well ordered like magical societies, who say prayers to various dieties believing that these figments of their imagination give them magick power and deeper understanding? Or maybe well ordered are the lying politicians, the soldiers brainwashed and trained to kill people, the high minded selfish pricks at Halliburton and all other big corps who take what they want and fuck everyone else, or even just the people here on Slashdot who presume so much about themselves, that they think they can make intimate personal diagnosis of people they've never met or known on a personal level?
I like to think of it as Buddha taught it: The world is vanity fair. Everyone lives in their own self made reality, and that is the source of everyones problems. Jesus had it right too, if you look deeper than the fundamentalcase interpretation of what he taught: DENY YOURSELF(your self made reality), TAKE UP YOUR CROSS(accept your reality for what it is, denying your Self the opportunity to interpret it), and follow me(speaking on behalf of Truth-That Which Is). -
Re:Correct use of the term
You're confusing personality disorders with the a particular definition of anti-social behavior. Everyone has personality disorders at all times, whether the person is functional can be shown by actions he takes which are deemed detrmental to society by (in our case) laws and public opinion. If you (the reader, not necessary the author of the post I'm replying to) do not think you have a disorder, check his website or see http://www.psychologynet.org/dsm.html See if you can't pick a handful of disorders that even in some small way could be attributed to you. This doesn't mean you're a sick person of course...it's psych 101 and why trained doctors spend all that time going to school.
I'm annoyed with this article precisely because there is an insinuation that game playing may have been thought dangerous to society, but is now shown to be "OK" because "normal" people (definined as those who socialize with friends and do not completely self-dstruct their career) do it too. The argument of the article seems fundamentally flawed as well as it's support, but the support is downright insulting.
The article made a few other unfair insinuations that makes me mad (yet not homicidal! don't call the police!):
1) That being a hermit is bad
2) That even normal socializing individuals occasionally play games in mom's house; but fear not they often do such important things as hanging out with friends
3) That somehow spending time with ones friends is a superior form of entertainment than with ones game console
I do not see why it ought to be an acceptable and commonly held belief that to be normal you must socialize unless you are a) at work/school or b) performing a critical task for a spouse or family member. Why is it important to "get out" and "meet people"? Why is being a hermit a bad thing? Why can't get up, go to a job, do good work, come home and plant myself in front of my PC for some good EQage? Although I happen to be married, even if I wasn't, am I hurting anyone?
My annoyance is probably irrational (relax, you don't have to call the police yet either), as one poster replied writing sensational stories sells ads, and making the masses feel comfortable sells even more. I am still annoyed however at the high-school clique nonsense that seems to make it into "respected" news sources like CNN.
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Acute Segway Trauma SyndromeI think the reason we keep seeing these articles about the Segway is because it was about the time that everyone realized the jig was up over the dot-con era that everyone started panicing about what they were going to distract the geeks with to keep them from realizing they had just been taken to the cleaners along with their parents.
This idea that the Segway was going to replace our jobs in web development with urban transportation infrastructure reengineering jobs, produced a societal trauma that left us all with the illusion that
/., Wired magazine and NASDAQ were still relevant to our lives -- along with a syndrome of other symptoms that should probably receive disability insurance indemnification as well as a place in the DSM IV under "Acute Segway Trauma Syndrome". -
Re:Seeing as you're already drugging your kid...That's the fundamental arguement I keep hearing from those who doubt ADHD is a real medical condition.
I don't doubt that it exists. I doubt that it's as widespread as some would have us believe. Namely because I find it very suspicious that its found significanly more often in the United States than anywhere else in the world. So much so, that the EU has written a working draft outlining their concerns. I quote:
1. The Parliamentary Assembly is concerned that increasing numbers of children in certain Council of Europe member states are being diagnosed as suffering from "attention deficit/hyperactivity disorder" (ADHD), "hyperkinetic disorder" or related behavioural conditions and treated by means of central nervous system stimulants such as amphetamines or methylphenidate, which are controlled drugs listed in Schedule II of the 1971 United Nations Convention on Psychotropic Substances because they have been judged by the World Health Organisation to be liable to abuse, to constitute a substantial risk to public health, and to have little to moderate therapeutic usefulness.
3. Although their precise causes are unknown, the validity of ADHD and hyperkinetic disorders, defined in terms of persistent and severe behavioural symptoms centred on inattention, hyperactivity and impulsiveness and resulting in functional impairment, is widely recognised by professional medical, psychological and scientific organisations, including the World Health Organisation. However, the Assembly is concerned that two different sets of criteria are applied in diagnosing these disorders: one adopted by the American Psychiatric Association and used worldwide, the other, more stringent, by the World Health Organisation. The Assembly considers that the basis for these different standards should be examined with a view to clarifying and harmonising the criteria governing diagnosis and treatment.
For more information on this and other "interesting" trends in ADHD diagnosis, I'd suggest checking out PBS's Frontline's "Medicating Kids"
she recognizes the symptoms in me, and cuts me some slack.
But you haven't been properly diagnosed, and thus you commit the cardinal sin of psychology 101: Never attempt to diagnose yourself. That is why you were flamed.
When a layman reads the DSM, he start to think that he's schizophrenic ("Well I do talk to myself sometimes..."), narcoleptic ("I do get tired alot, especially at the end of the day, or after working hard..."), social anxiety disorder, ("You know I don't like getting up and talking in front of large groups..."), homosexual ("I did have that one dream..."), agoraphobic ("You know, the more I read this, the more scared I'm getting..."). Or in your case, you kid gets diagnosed with ADD and so you try to figure out how he got it. You decide it might be genetic, so you start looking at yourself, and walla! You find it. ("You know, my mind tends to wonder when I'm bored. I used to think it was just daydreaming; but now that I think about, I think I've got ADD. Yeah. My mind always wonders, except for those times I'm so caught up in something so much that I can't get distracted at all...")
You sound like my 70 year old dad. You can start talking to my dad, and he won't acknowledge you, you'll have to yell to get his attention. He's not deaf, my mom made him get his hearing check, and it's fine. As exhibited by him chiming in when food is being discussed. What's going on is, he simply tunes out the world because it's the way he decompresses after work. As he his doctor told him, "You hear what you want to hear."
If you think you've got a problem, then go to a doctor, because:
- You're not a trained medical practitioner, so you're not qualified to make a diagnosis
- No one can diagnose themselves
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Re:What is addiction?
What you're looking for is the DSM-IV.