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Coping with Exam Panic Attacks?

UniGirlBot asks: "I am a distinction / high distinction student who normally doesn't have any major levels of stress during exams. Today I managed to have a major panic attack during an exam on databases and ended up leaving the room in tears about halfway through a 3-hour paper. This panic attack was an absolute first for me and I now have to begin the special consideration procedure, which I am grateful exists. For the record, I did study enough and the course was something I enjoyed doing. Does anyone out there have any advice on what I could do stop this from happening again, please?" If you've been in this position, how did you recover?

207 comments

  1. Well... by Black+Parrot · · Score: 0, Redundant

    Have you tried pretending to be a gurl and posting a question to Slashdot?

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  2. Emotional Detachment by PrivateDonut · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Simply stop caring.

    1. Re:Emotional Detachment by Bitsy+Boffin · · Score: 4, Interesting

      You've been mod'd redundant but I think your comment is actually quite correct, and it's a good bit of how I handled taking exams at University.

      Once your at the exam, even the night before, there's nothing you can do that is going to increase your knowledge, so, stop caring. If you fail, you fail, try it again next year or pick a different educational path, if you pass, good job. Sweating over it is just going to reduce your performance, so just answer the questions as far as you can and don't worry about it.

      If you don't know the answer, well, move to the next question, don't panic "I don't know this!". If you get to the end of the paper and you have questions unanswered, go back to them and just casually think about it, perhaps you did know after all, but don't panic about it, it's too late for that.

      I was the same after exams too, everybody of course asks "how do you think you did". My reply was always "I don't know, and I don't really care", if I passed I passed, if I failed (and I did once, I hated that course), so be it, nothing I could do after the exam would change that.

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    2. Re:Emotional Detachment by jsimon12 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Simply stop caring.

      BINGO

      School doesn't matter. Passing and the degree are all that really count.

      Marketable skills and real world experiance matter most.

      Get a girlfriend (or boyfriend depending on your preferance), drink some beers, wine or whatever you like and enjoy college, this is your LAST chance. The real world is a lot tougher and a lot less fun until you become a billionare or die :)

    3. Re:Emotional Detachment by drhlx · · Score: 5, Insightful
      Once your at the exam, even the night before, there's nothing you can do that is going to increase your knowledge
      I disagree. For the vast majority of undergrad CS subjects, a day or two of revision was plenty. For the 'soft' subjects (management, etc.) a few hours was more than enough to memorise the buzzwords. Sure, it requires having been to the classes and knowing what's going on, but don't underestimate the marginal benefit of a few hours of targeted revision right before the exam. Particularly when lecturers set exams that are all-too-similar to the tutorial questions, past exams or textbook questions. If you're talking process-based subjects (e.g. differential calculus), a few hours may not help you. But a higher-level subject on project management? A few hours of dedicated study is all you often need.
    4. Re:Emotional Detachment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's not that easy, unfortunately. Doing well on exams is about preparation and confidence. I know - I took over a hundred as an undergrad and at least another 40 as a graduate student. Try to study with people (if it's allowed) and ask each other questions. That will help build your confidence in the material.

      If the test was going to be in a room I had never been in I would try and see it a few days before the exam. When studying I would imagine myself in the room. I would also show up 30 to 45 minutes before the exam and meditate in the room. It was very relaxing and cleared my mind of anything but the exam material. Other people would show up and attempt to cram right up until the test was handed out, but I would deliberately avoid such behavior. Sometimes I read the newspaper.

      This advice is good for anyone really, not just those who experience panic attacks. I never had trouble with written exams, but I would often lock up on oral exams until I learned how to deal with my fear.

    5. Re:Emotional Detachment by Fyz · · Score: 5, Insightful

      That's a good philosophy for any student. But telling a person that has panic attacks to stop caring is like telling a clinically depressed person to cheer up.

      In fact, it can make the problem worse if they suppress their nervousness under a superficial shell and then crack completely under the real pressure of an exam, especially one you're not sure of passing. I thought all my life that I don't have this problem, that I could always keep my cool, but then I realized that this was just a front I brought up for the examinators, though under this surface I was a nervous wreck.

      Now, knowing that I actually have a jumpy nerves, I can work on them using some of the techniques others in this discussion have mentioned.

      Though if you have a real problem, the solution is very simple: take a beta blocker in the morning of the exam. Trust me, works like a charm.

    6. Re:Emotional Detachment by arivanov · · Score: 3, Interesting

      It has been a while before I have sat an exam, but I will second that.

      There is a finite amount of knowledge which you can assimilate preparing for the exam. After that you should stop caring for at least a while and leave it to settle. Best of all get shitfaced the second-to-last evening before the exam and sleep over the last day. It is quite easy in most of European Unis where you have around a month long examination session. Essentially you have to get through the stages of care, fear, shitfaced, not care. Once you are at the last stage you perform the best.

      This is impossible in most of the US though. Their short examination sessions do not allow this.

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    7. Re:Emotional Detachment by KDan · · Score: 3, Interesting

      One way that I've seen this phrased is:

      After you've prepared the subject, you need to prepare yourself.

      I believe some studies have shown that listening to certain types of music (e.g. Mozart) before exams actually results in a boost in results. You need to relax and prime your brain into its high-performance mode where it can regurgitate all the knowledge you've been cramming into it for the last few weeks.

      Daniel

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    8. Re:Emotional Detachment by DahGhostfacedFiddlah · · Score: 1

      Good points about tutorials/previous tests. I remember passing one exam on a fairly difficult subject (quantum physics for engineers) simply because the exam questions were almost identical to the tests and tutorials. I'd skipped a bunch of classes and expected to fail that one.

      My laziness aside, it goes to show that this can be a phenomenal study method.

    9. Re:Emotional Detachment by SanityInAnarchy · · Score: 3, Insightful
      That's a good philosophy for any student. But telling a person that has panic attacks to stop caring is like telling a clinically depressed person to cheer up.

      It's a start, though.

      Trust me, I know plenty of people who were suicidal. I learned some things. I learned that they don't really want to do it, or they would've succeeded already. I try not to tell them that, but it keeps me calm.

      I also learned that, while it takes a certain amount of finesse, and the most effective approach differs from person to person. But no matter what the approach, the most important thing is to try. It's amazing how thoroughly these people convince themselves that nobody cares, and a real, serious, up-at-2-am-on-the-phone attempt to talk them out of it and keep them alive proves that someone cares.

      So, in other words, telling a depressed person to cheer up may not fix the problem for life, but it will help at least now, at least for today, if done with consideration (not in a snarky slashdot post).

      So, the trick would be to tell this person to stop caring, but not in an arrogant-Slashdotter way. Get their parents to tell them to stop caring, to tell them that it doesn't matter. Parents want you to succeed, but good parents will forgive you and help you when you fail (even literally).

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    10. Re:Emotional Detachment by SanityInAnarchy · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Or a subject like programming, where I already knew some of just about every Algol-like language, so a first or even second semester of Java took maybe a couple of minutes of preparation. That is, I'd sit down in the room, and before the prof tells everyone to shut up and starts passing out the tests, I ask the person next to me things like "What's the Java syntax for a constructor?" And I'd pass.

      Don't count on that, though. I was lucky to be so far ahead of the class in my independent study. This CS class had three teachers, one of which was much faster-paced than the other two. The first semester, I got a woman who really can't teach and was incredibly slow-paced, the lab stuff was insanely easy, but the test was much harder. The second semester was just the opposite, though I don't really know what the finals were like, I was gone before then.

      Which brings us back to the main point -- I'm not doing great, but I'm a college dropout (first semester) and within a couple of weeks of coming home, I had one part-time job and a couple of bits of contract work.

      I don't have any ambitions about money, I only want to make enough to live and occasionally afford toys like a new video card. If my pay per hour goes up, I'll work less and play more. So, obviously this doesn't apply to everyone, but I don't have many regrets about dropping out.

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    11. Re:Emotional Detachment by linvir · · Score: 1
      Passing and the degree are all that really count.
      Making the exam the most important thing to get right?
    12. Re:Emotional Detachment by crmartin · · Score: 1

      Dear private donut:

      You are an idiot.

      Yours sincerely

      The American Medical Assoication, the American Psychological Association, and every MD who has had to deal with someone with panic/anxiety disorder.

    13. Re:Emotional Detachment by bogjobber · · Score: 1

      I disagree. For the vast majority of undergrad CS subjects, a day or two of revision was plenty. For the 'soft' subjects (management, etc.) a few hours was more than enough to memorise the buzzwords.

      I could not disagree more with you. This is terrible advice to give to somebody else. If "the vast majority" of students in class only require a day or two of revision, then your class is too damn easy. Most people struggle with college level programs. I can't remember a single upper level CS class that I haven't had to study days on end in addition to regular studying throughout the semester, and I consider myself one of the smartest students in my class.

      As for 'soft' subjects, that is just crap also. If all you have to do to pass a class is take a few hours "to memorise the buzzwords", it isn't because you are smart. It is because your class is too easy. Learning is supposed to be hard. If school is that easy, then you are wasting your time.

    14. Re:Emotional Detachment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      I ask the person next to me things like "What's the Java syntax for a constructor?" And I'd pass.
      I wish my exams were just about syntax! In my uni finals in the UK, you got 0 marks for syntax in programming modules - so long as the marker can see that you understand the concepts and meaning you got the marks irrespective of if you could remember the syntax for the constructors or anything else. The questions were usually something like a high-level description of a heating system (for example), e.g. something watches the temperature of various parts of a building and turns on the boiler, radiators and so on to keep the temerpature at a set level, which you then had to do outline code for - i.e. come up with general class structure, identify where you are using threads and how you are ensuring thread-saftey and so on. Or questions were essay type questions like explaining the pros and cons of differing design methodologies with particular emphasis on certain parts (like testing or design), or they were things like "Explain MVC/Observer pattern and why its useful"
    15. Re:Emotional Detachment by jsimon12 · · Score: 1

      To pass yes; to ace no. So less stress since grades matter less.

      If math is too hard get a political science degree, if that is to hard get a rt degree.

    16. Re:Emotional Detachment by jazman_777 · · Score: 2, Informative

      And if everything else is too hard, go into Education!

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    17. Re:Emotional Detachment by SanityInAnarchy · · Score: 1
      In my uni finals in the UK, you got 0 marks for syntax in programming modules - so long as the marker can see that you understand the concepts and meaning you got the marks irrespective of if you could remember the syntax for the constructors or anything else.

      Well, keep two things in mind: This was a Freshman-level course, and I'd already done a bit of programming before that class. I had all the concepts down solid in, say, Perl, so it's just a matter of translating them to Java. That's why that was my question.

      To anyone trying to learn from your first Freshman-level com sci course: Don't. Start out with some tutorials off the Internet, or get your roommate to teach you. I taught my roommate Java (as I was learning it), and he taught me Calculus.

      Or questions were essay type questions like explaining the pros and cons of differing design methodologies with particular emphasis on certain parts (like testing or design), or they were things like "Explain MVC/Observer pattern and why its useful"

      And yes, there were some of those. Again, it was a matter of me being so far beyond that. You know... "Explain why this is a good idea," and I'd explain why it isn't.

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    18. Re:Emotional Detachment by matthew.paulsen · · Score: 1

      I don't think he was totally discounting the idea of studying, but merely saying that stressing about it and over-studying is not going to help.

    19. Re:Emotional Detachment by DudeTheMath · · Score: 1
      I'm sorry, how can it not be allowed to study with other people? But you should absolutely study with other people as long as (a) you're comfortable asking stupid questions of your studymates and (b) you're patient and friendly answering what you think are stupid questions. Stupid questions are how you find out what things you don't know--and quite possibly what your classmates don't know, either!

      Regarding the panic attacks: I had one in my very first semester at U, in vector calc, as a maths major. Well, it wasn't really a panic attack until I realized I only had ten more minutes and I was still on the third problem. I was almost in tears. But that was the only one I ever had. I prepared for every subsequent exam by studying with other people if I wasn't completely comfortable with the concepts. I made sure that, even if I wasn't perfectly ready, I had my tools sharpened (I got through electro-mag on partial credit because I could do all the integrals).

      As a graduate student teaching at another U, I pulled a student out of a final exam who I saw was starting to panic. Out in the hall, I had him lie on the floor, close his eyes, and do three minutes of deep breathing (basic self-hypnosis). He got himself back under control enough to finish the exam, and although he didn't get great marks on the exam, he did pass the course. The best recommendation I can make is that as soon as you realize you're losing control, close your eyes, breathe slowly and deeply (count five slowly before releasing) until you feel yourself pull together. Then immediately go on to a new problem.

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    20. Re:Emotional Detachment by drhlx · · Score: 1

      Perhaps we're arguing two sides of the same coin. I was trying to say it's possible to pass and even do quite well, particularly when classes aren't as well-structured as they should be. (This is The University of Melbourne I'm talking about - not some minor institution). If your goal is to simply pass, get ok grades and get your piece of paper, the system makes it all-too-easy for you. If you want to learn something, then no, replicating my statement above isn't going to help you. I almost completely disassociate marks with learning - whilst they can be correlated, I'd rather learn something and get 70 for a subject than get 90 by mastering revision techniques. Also, I was focussing on 'marginal benefit'. Given the imperfect setting of exams (in that they relate closely to past exams, lecture problems, tutorials, textbook, etc.), then even if you know everything you should about the subject, a few hours of targeted revision on the techniques will yield vastly improved results. Some people learn all they need to during the semester, then just spend a few hours 'tidying it up' at the end. Some people do revision as they go; some don't. If you have a good memory and think about the problems every day (applying them to everyday scenarios, etc.) then you don't necessarily need extra dedicated study. It doesn't diminish your capacity or that of the Institution to do this. It does diminish the Institution's reputation if exams can be passed only with a few hours of revision. Some can, and it's a shame. I agree completely re wasting time. I'm doing a Masters in Business & IT at the moment, and some subjects have been a waste of time (Strategic Management, Marketing Management, Knowledge Management). Others have been fantastic (Innovation & Entrepreneurship, Project Management, Business Finance). Sometimes you don't know which it will be until well into the semester when it is too late. When I detect a subject I 'hate', I tend to spend proportionally less time studying what I should be studying (according to the lecturer) and more time studying peripheral material, such as heaps of books on corporate history - Apple, Intel, Enron, etc. Sure, you can do that without the college degree, but sometimes college can provide that stimulus. It's what you make of it.

    21. Re:Emotional Detachment by Eden06 · · Score: 1

      Agreed. To protect the ego the subconscious will, if it deems it important enough, create a "failsafe" so that should you not succeed, your ego is not damaged. This is often displayed in exam situations as a panic attack or mental block.

      This is simply because your ego knows you can succeed if you hadn't of had the panic attack. To combat this the best course of action is to stop caring, I've found it easy to simply distract yourself the morning of the exam, wake up early, and play an online game or research something unrelated that interests you to occupy your mind. When you do go into the exam, you should hopefully, instead of thinking "I sure hope I pass this", be thinking "I can't wait till this is done with until I can do something else."

      This may seem a backwards tactic, but if your brain knows it has an excuse for failure, and also knows that your objective is to finish, and not pass, it'll just coast through it to give you what you want.

    22. Re:Emotional Detachment by billcopc · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I couldn't agree with you more, though for the record I was never much good at studying. I was actually very adamant about not studying, despite being brainiac #1 since birth right up until early college. In my logic, if I had to cram to pass an exam, something was wrong with either my learning process or the class format. I'm a scary fast learner my own way, but cramming a book never got me anywhere in life. Has a book ever taught you how to pick up girls ? How to be happy with them ? How to ride a bicycle ? No, you learn these by trial and error. Book knowledge may help you make less "stupid" errors, but it won't give you the complete learning experience and you will still have to work hard to master the topic.

      An exam is an exam, you test your knowledge on a piece of paper. If your knowledge isn't good enough and you fail, the logical course of action is to identify your weak points and fix them, then try again. That's how real life usually goes.. you screw up, you learn from your mistakes, then you do better the next time around. Unfortunately in the horrible institution we call education, this means another 3 to 6 months of sitting in a boring class watching paint dry. If you could do your "final" exam, get the results then have a few weeks to patch up and retake a slightly different exam, I think it would produce a greater portion of bright minds. The pressure on cramming is the greatest destructor of minds, because if you spent 8 hours squeezing that textbook into your skull, a month later you will remember less than 10% of that cram session. It's good to have knowledge checks here and there to keep everyone on the same page, but it's really just an indicator of how quickly you can memorize superficial content. You may understand basic calculus after 2 weeks of classes, but after 3 years of related education in aerospace engineering you will know calculus inside out, your brain will be one with the math. To me, that's when you should be graded on your skills, because that number will be far more significant in showing how good of an engineer you are.

      There are tons of things that magically came together in my mind, years after any sort of formal education.. life experiences, personal discoveries as a hobbyist inventor, sometimes just sitting on the crapper alone with my thoughts.. your mind is constantly connecting the dots as your life knowledge fleshes out over time. There are things I know about topics I've never formally studied, concepts in physics, chemistry, biology that exist solely in my mind as ethereal links; things I don't know how to express, but I know them inside-out. Education is just a means of trying to convey that non-verbal information, the idea is to present a model of a concept using language, imagery and experimentation, and hope that your own mind will assemble the true knowledge. It's like showing you a picture of a plane, telling you it has to fly, and expecting you to build a working plane on your own; amazingly the mind can do this on its own in many cases. The picture is not knowledge, the picture is only one dimension of that wisdom.. the more dimensions you assemble, the closer you get to seeing the big picture.

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    23. Re:Emotional Detachment by billcopc · · Score: 1

      It's not so much about the message, it's how you deliver it. Depressed people need to cheer up, simple as that. Cheering up, however, is not simple. Cheering up is not something you can do on command, cheer is an indicator that you're doing happy things. You can't just create abstract happiness, you have to be happy ABOUT something. For someone who is depressed about life, they have to train themselves to do rewarding things like eating your favorite foods, or going for a walk on a nice day, finding a job you'll enjoy.. things that will make you happier.

      For someone who is having panic attacks over school, you have to take a step back and look at why this person is so tense in the first place ? An exam is just a piece of paper, how can someone be afraid of paper ? They're afraid of what it represents. This world puts so much pressure on success that it becomes and black or white affair.. if you're not the best of the best then you're a failure, a zero, a burger flipper.

      One thing that helps me navigate through any situation is the "what if" game.. not "what if I fail and my PhD father disowns me and I become a homeless HIV-positive manwhore with no teeth".. I take a simplistic approach. What if I pass ? Then I move on to the next challenge. What if I fail ? Then I have to take the test again, or retake the course. What if my father gives me flak for not being the best ? Then I'll smack him in the face and tell him to give me a goddamned break I'm only human.

      Seriously.. life is what you make it. The only person that should be pressuring you is you. Everyone else's opinion is just that, an opinion.

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    24. Re:Emotional Detachment by tirnacopu · · Score: 1

      I will personally disagree with your opinion. I have never been able to produce any quality results in exams (or at work, later) unless being under stress. Stress == adrenaline for me. Without it, I'm just the usual office slacker. Not caring about the outcome of a project is hardly an incentive to get it done, and get it right. With these in mind, an advice on how to keep a clear mind while trembling like a leaf in front of the examiners would be welcome. A (most likely stupid, and surely dangerous) solution for me and a lot of colleagues has been to take a light painkiller like Nurofen. No other bright ideas from me though.. just learned to live with the feeling.

    25. Re:Emotional Detachment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      I'm a college dropout (first semester)

      Frankly, I don't think you are at all qualified to participate in this discussion.

    26. Re:Emotional Detachment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      BINGO School doesn't matter. Passing and the degree are all that really count. Marketable skills and real world experiance matter most. Get a girlfriend (or boyfriend depending on your preferance), drink some beers, wine or whatever you like and enjoy college, this is your LAST chance. The real world is a lot tougher and a lot less fun until you become a billionare or die :)

      I agree with this (mostly, I'm not finding the real world all that tough).

      I went through college working my ass off, and managed to graduate with distinction in the top quintile of my engineering class, with an average of just under 90%. Which means absolutely nothing. I really have nothing much to show for it that I couldn't have gotten with a 65% average, or lower. Not only that, but ignoring my social life through university to get those high marks has left me miserable with absolutely no romantic prospects.

      So, yeah, don't do what I did, it is completely not worth it...

    27. Re:Emotional Detachment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      and/or start smoking weed.

    28. Re:Emotional Detachment by StikyPad · · Score: 1

      Or this.

      I joke, I joke...

      (But blink once if you're interested, and I'll meet you behind the dorm in an hour).

    29. Re:Emotional Detachment by plague3106 · · Score: 1

      Don't worry, when all they can tell their employer is a bunch of buzzwords, without knowing any theory behind it, this method of studying will catch up with them.

    30. Re:Emotional Detachment by jbaltz · · Score: 1

      The time constant on being caught up with can be years and years...karma's a bitch, but she's also slow at times.

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    31. Re:Emotional Detachment by CastrTroy · · Score: 1

      However, just letting someone take the test, without the class can be just as bad a promoting cramming. I know people who have taken A+/MSCE tests. They cram for a few days before hand, write the test, pass, and yet still don't know anything, still couldn't apply the answers they've written down to solving real life problems. This isn't the Matrix. You can't just plug a wire into the back of your head and learn kung-fu, or how to fly a helicopter. The best advice is to go through the material slowly as you need to. People pretend they study a lot, but they really don't. Only for a week before midterms, and 2 weeks before finals. I always just paid attention in class and did the assignments on my own, so I actually learned what I was doing. This way, you don't have to cram before the exam.

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    32. Re:Emotional Detachment by jizziknight · · Score: 1

      I actually apply this to every aspect of my life... my job, my health, my family, my girlfriend...

      Seriously, though, this actually works. I used to be a really shy, nervous person (still am a bit), but once I learned to just not care, things got better. Also, learn to not care about things that don't directly affect you. Yeah, it makes you seem like an asshole at times because you don't care that your girlfriend's mom's best friend's cousin's former roomate died, but it really brings down the amount of stress that you have to deal with.

      Specifically for exams... study a few days prior, but leave the day before open to just relax. Also, one bad grade isn't the end of the world. When I took physics in college, we had two exams, the final, homework, and lab that made up our final grade. I did terrible on the first exam (5%, yikes!), but managed to do well on the rest, and finished up with a B in the class. Granted, there was a large curve, but still.

      The best thing you can do is not care. Take this post for instance. I don't care if anyone reads it or not. I don't even care if it gets modded up or down. I don't care if it helps you through your troubles or not either. The only reason I'm posting is because I'm choosing to not care about the work that I have to do, and this is helping me relax and have fun during work.

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  3. Take it easy by A.K.A_Magnet · · Score: 5, Funny

    Just smoke a joint before your exam. Works for me :)

    1. Re:Take it easy by misleb · · Score: 1

      Unfortunately pot actually contributes to/causes panic attacks for some people (me, for one). Yeah, sucks, I know. :-P

      -matthew

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    2. Re:Take it easy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Towelie, you're the worst character ever.

    3. Re:Take it easy by Inda · · Score: 1

      Tell your doctor... then take the Beta Blockers he prescribes. Worked for me.

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    4. Re:Take it easy by misleb · · Score: 1

      Beta blockers so you can smoke pot? Or to treak general panic attacks? I think I'll just stay away from pot in public places, thanks. ;-)

      -matthew

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    5. Re:Take it easy by GWBasic · · Score: 1
      Hrmm... Maybe I shouldn't post this from behind the firewall of a company that gave me a whiz quiz before they hired me...

      My technique in college was to make a best effort to attend every class and do every homework. Sometimes I'd doze off in class, and sometimes I butchered the homework, but I "participated", even if I was just a bump on the log. Usually, I was sober when I did my work.

      When it came to studying for an exam, I was already familar with the material from sleeping through it. Typically, I would spend about 30 minutes reviewing my notes or skimming chapters in the book. If the class was more difficult, I'd spend about 1.5 hours reviewing notes and skimming the book. I would never work into boredom or take stimulants, caffiene included.

      Then, when I was done studying, I'd do exactly what you perscibe, and watch a movie. Why? The forced laziness allowed me to relax. It gave my brain a rest. By the time the exam came around, I was completly rested. I always feel kind of funny saying that my study technique is to quickly review my notes; take a b0ng hit; watch a movie; and get a full night's rest, but IT WORKS.

  4. Bacardi 151 by LurkerXXX · · Score: 0, Troll

    Take a shot before the exam. It will come the nerves right down.

    1. Re:Bacardi 151 by LurkerXXX · · Score: 2, Funny
      er, CALM the nerves.



      Sorry for the typo. I've been calming myself down too much tonight apparently. ;)

    2. Re:Bacardi 151 by JimXugle · · Score: 0

      any advice for the yungens? State stores ask for ID now.

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    3. Re:Bacardi 151 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What underaged college student can't get booze easily? Someone who goes to BYU or Bob Jones?

  5. Get wasted and quit working by SlappyBastard · · Score: 1
    People tell me this is why I graduated with a 3.5 instead of a 4.0. So much for two degrees getting me any respect, bastards.

    I dunno. I never got deep into the exam fear thing. I figure, if you pissed away the semester that badly (or the material just whistled right over your head) then exam time is really too late to do anything about it.

    Rest, fun and relaxation usually did the trick for me. I have a long history of acing big exams, and I generally lowered my effort and workload in order to pull it off.

    --
    I scream. You scream. I assume that means we're both acquainted with the problem. We proceed.
    1. Re:Get wasted and quit working by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting
      I dunno. I never got deep into the exam fear thing. I figure, if you pissed away the semester that badly (or the material just whistled right over your head) then exam time is really too late to do anything about it.

      This is exactly why exam anxiety sets in. A person taking an exam can only think about the result of the exam during the exam. Panic attacks happen when you are 30 minutes into a 2 hour physics test and you think "I'm failing this test and now I'm going to lose my financial aid." Well maybe not physics tests since *everyone* thinks they've failed each and every test (average scores of 45% tend to give you that feeling).

      My recommendations:
      • Take a couple of physics courses. They almost always grade on the curve and the average scores are typically around 40-60%. This will desensitize a person about the correlation of problems answered correctly and the final corrected exam score.
      • Do not even consider of thinking about the reprocussions of the exam during the exam. This takes discipline and practice.
      • Answer only one question at a time and focus on only one question at a time. Heck, if you think about it you are only failing one question at a time.
      • Drill. The more practice you have doing run-throughs of the exam the better you will fare. Just as firefighters and soldiers drill to make sure they don't freeze up during stress, a timed practice exam will help you.
      Rest, fun and relaxation usually did the trick for me. I have a long history of acing big exams, and I generally lowered my effort and workload in order to pull it off.

      You previously admitted that you never "got deep into the exam fear thing." Why are you now trying to give advice on what has worked for you?
    2. Re:Get wasted and quit working by cr0ck3t · · Score: 1
      I disagree with only looking at one question at a time. If you get bogged down on a question you may not have time to answer questions later in the test which you would have received marks for. I recommend taking many passes through the exam:
      • first pass: only answer the questions you know for sure and which will take little time
      • second pass: answer as much of each question until you start to hesitate
      • third pass: fill in what you thought of while working on other questions in the second pass
      • fourth pass: state assumptions which allow you to add to your answer / theory you know applies (but which you may not know how to apply)
      Teachers tend to give partial marks - this procedure saved my ass in a digital signal processing course (class avarage before scaling 45%)
    3. Re:Get wasted and quit working by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You seem to have forgotten that the author is having a panick attack. When you look through a test and you feel that you don't know anything, quickly flipping through several times is only going to make your feelings worse. Sitting down and solving at least one problem will calm you down.

      On a side note, if you are not having a panick attack, it is certainly wise to prioritize your problems. I've taken many physics tests where I have aced the test without getting a single problem completely correct.

    4. Re:Get wasted and quit working by cr0ck3t · · Score: 1

      With your method, if you sit down with the first problem and can not solve it you will not even see the secong problem (which you may be able to solve). I did not recommend skimming through the exam, but did not explicity say to read each question, which I meant to.

      For completeness: Read each question and "only answer the questions you know for sure and which will take little time." and then go back and "answer as much of each question until you start to hesitate".

      This means that you are attacking the exam in a systematic way and after you write down what you know you already have part of the exam finished - helps to control the panic when you have at least something done. If you are unable to put anything down then you're pretty much screwed. Take the course again or take a few years off and gain some life experience (I took off 8 years because I knew I would just party if I went straight into university and would not do well - now I have some great experiences and in less than 10 months I will be a bachelor degree in engineering). While my classmates freak out I remind myself that I could be back in the Bahamas teaching scuba diving in less than 2 months if I wanted to - but the thing is I want to be where I am.

      Hope this clarifies my advice.

  6. Keep things in perspective by Bender0x7D1 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    No single test is going to make or break your career/future. It may mean that you don't get your first choice of college or job, but that probably won't matter 10 years from now.

    If there is a company that won't look at you because you have a 3.9 GPA instead of a 4.0, you probably don't want to work there anyway. Far more important are the projects and activities you do outside of class. I know I would rather hire someone with a 3.0 GPA and open source development on their resume, than a 4.0 student who hasn't done anything outside of class.

    Now, I'm not saying that you should blow off exams, but it is just a test. You will have many more of them in your future. If you blow this one, you can try a bit harder on the next one.

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    Reading code is like reading the dictionary - you have to read half of it before you can go back and understand it.
    1. Re:Keep things in perspective by shadowbearer · · Score: 1

      Exactly.

        Life is long, classes are but a short part of it.

        Enthusiasm for the job is the most important qualification. Anyone worth working for will recognize it.

        To the article poster: Take it from someone who left college and built a life - get out and relax more often. Hard to do in school, I know. But you certainly sound like you need to get "outside" more. When I was in college, I was always stressed right to the edge, and it didn't take much to push me over into "fight/flight" mode.

        Sounds to me like you need to take some time off and go seek what you've lost - which is yourself. Good luck...

      SB

      --
      It's old. The more humans I meet, the more I like my cats. At least they are honest.
    2. Re:Keep things in perspective by Sage+Gaspar · · Score: 4, Interesting

      No single test is going to make or break your career/future. It may mean that you don't get your first choice of college or job, but that probably won't matter 10 years from now.

      If there is a company that won't look at you because you have a 3.9 GPA instead of a 4.0, you probably don't want to work there anyway. Far more important are the projects and activities you do outside of class. I know I would rather hire someone with a 3.0 GPA and open source development on their resume, than a 4.0 student who hasn't done anything outside of class.


      Bingo. To begin with, life is probabilistic. I'm not talking quantum strangeness or physical uncertainty or anything like that, just that there's no one path to get to where you're going. And where you're going often changes while you're en route, for better or worse, due to circumstances outside of your control.

      I slacked in high school but I did very good on the PSATs. So I ended up going to a smaller liberal arts school to pursue my computer science degree, rather than some of the top gun schools I applied to (some of which I got into, but offered me no funding). When I got there, partially because the school's CS program sucked, I ended up in mathematics, which I really love. Because the school was small, I took a semester abroad at a larger school as part of a special math program designed specifically for this purpose, and I got introduced to what has been my favorite part of mathematics so far. There, I networked with an awesome professor who is now funding my first year of grad school.

      Had I made the cut initially and attended Carnegie Mellon or MIT, I might still be in computer science, and I would've certainly not spent this semester abroad. I would not have made this contact. I'd be heading down a different path which might be just as good or even better. Or it might be worse. The point is that you put in a reasonable effort to tip the odds in your favor and then take what life throws at you. What helps a lot for me is treating things like tests (not just school tests, but every test in life) as a game or challenge. You're already in the situation and you've prepared as well as you're going to prepare, now it's just up to you to do as well as you can and let the chips fall where they may.

    3. Re:Keep things in perspective by arkaino · · Score: 1
      No single test is going to make or break your career/future.

      Right!!

      You should repeat that for yourself each time you're gonna take a test. It's just a "challenge" no more no less.

      If you want something to worry about, it's being motivated as long as you can. Moreover consider the hare and the tortoise fable. Be the tortoise!!!

      Taking a test doesn't teach you anything, it's just a way (for teachers) to prove you know. If you fail but you're sure of what you know, then, does it matter after all ?, ok big deal I couldn't show them I'm sure of what I know in 2 hours in the way they want. bahh!

      cheers
    4. Re:Keep things in perspective by SubliminalVortex · · Score: 1
      If there is a company that won't look at you because you have a 3.9 GPA instead of a 4.0, you probably don't want to work there anyway. Far more important are the projects and activities you do outside of class. I know I would rather hire someone with a 3.0 GPA and open source development on their resume, than a 4.0 student who hasn't done anything outside of class.

      I tend to agree with that advice. In fact, lots of other employers do. Several colleges and universities nowadays allow students to replace bad grades with good ones. (i.e. if you take a class three times and fail it, the fourth time you get a 'B', it goes on your transcript and the rest is forgiven.)

      I went to a school where your GPA considered all of your grades, regardless of how many times you took the course. If you took electromagnetics the first quarter and got an 'F', then got an 'A' the next, you still ended up with a 2.0 average, even if you had an epiphany and understood how it worked.

      Some employers look at things like 'withdrawals' or courses taken for 'evaluation' (i.e. pass/fail) along with the number of times a course was taken and the grades earned.

      There is a lot you can learn from a transcript, actually. A high number of withdrawals spread out over time could mean an individual is not suitable for approaching a challenge. A high number of 'evaluation' courses means the person could just be 'mediocre' in that arena.

  7. Deep Breathing... by thepropain · · Score: 3, Insightful

    with closed eyes. If possible, "step outside yourself" and see the silliness of it. Of course, im my book ain't nuthin' wrong with a shot and a beer before the test...

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    "You know you're narcissistic when you quote yourself in your sigs." -- PRoPAiN!
  8. Panic Attacks Suck by whjwhj · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Yep been there too under similar circumstances. I feel your pain. Unfortunely, at least in my case, the first panic attack meant that next time I was in a similar circumstance I was worried more which seemed to help induce another panic attack.

    I did a bunch of research online to learn about Panic Attacks. I asked my doctor about them. My doctor offered medication which I declined. In the end I just suffered through so many panic attacks that after a while a panic attack became somewhat anti-climatic. Almost routine. At that point they dissapearred almost overnight.

    Your experiences may vary of course. Good luck to you.

    whj

    P.S. Worse thing though is don't be ashamed or embarrased. That'll make it all worse.

    1. Re:Panic Attacks Suck by HalAtWork · · Score: 3, Informative

      Very wise words. I'm in the same position now as you and don't really know what to do about it. Just curious, what were the medications he suggested?

      I'm at the point where they're totally routine, I mean, just before every day of work I have a lot of trouble falling asleep, and routinely wake up hours before I mean to. And when I get up in the middle of the night, there's no way I can get back to sleep because I'm thinking "Oh shit, if I don't get back to sleep, I'll feel like crap and my day will be hell!" It's very predictable.

      They've started declining because I'm trying to make myself not care more and more and I think as a result, doing slightly worse at my job, but at least still better than most because I also get panic attacks about whether I'm doing a good job or not, since I want to keep mine. Still, it's not going away and I still feel a lot of pressure that I figure must all be coming from inside my mind because everyone else seems to be able to deal with it. Anyway, hopefully mine will go away permanently because it's really annoying not leading a normal life.

    2. Re:Panic Attacks Suck by ClamIAm · · Score: 1

      Unfortunely, at least in my case, the first panic attack meant that next time I was in a similar circumstance I was worried more which seemed to help induce another panic attack.

      I don't have panic attacks. However, I read in a book on anxiety that this is one of the reasons people keep having panic attacks. The anxiety of worrying about having an attack builds up, and can actually cause one to happen. It's sort of the same with depression, where a person starts believing all the bad thoughts they have.

    3. Re:Panic Attacks Suck by mnmn · · Score: 1

      Hmm apparently this is more common than I thought.

      I never got panic attacks. I loved exams. Also loved teasing friends when they were having their panic attacks.

      It feels a little like a chess game. Youre timed and you have to think some and do some stuff before the time is up. Being 'fresh' and awake was more important for me than having studied full tilt just before, and I suggest the day before the exam, do something totally unrelated, and should not be studying. Go swimming or play the old games. Try to finish Doom or something the whole day. Just have fun. Eat well and sleep early.

      Right before the exam, about an hour or so skim through the book or whatever. Remember, if you didnt study that is not the time to crunch it all. You just dont know and dont deserve the grade. That will make you feel at ease. The skimming is just to remember the stuff, not to learn anything new.

      But then again, since I never had that attack, my advice might be redundant.

      --
      "Give orange me give eat orange me eat orange give me eat orange give me you." -Nim Chimpsky
    4. Re:Panic Attacks Suck by whjwhj · · Score: 1

      I'm very sorry I don't remember exactly what medication it was. Some sort of anti-anxiety medication. I was not at all excited about taking mood altering drugs. Pretty funny, considering I used to be VERY excited about taking mood altering drugs!

    5. Re:Panic Attacks Suck by Footix · · Score: 1

      Sounds to me like chronic anxiety disorder. I've been on Effexor since last September, and it's really helped.

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      Footix - President, Society For Putting Things On Top Of Other Things
  9. Pressure is a bitch by heinousjay · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I have no specific advice for your situation, but there are a few possibilities.

    The most general is to talk with a psychologist about your experience. It's not a panacea, but you may gain some insight into what led into the attack, and how to cope with the situation if (when) it occurs again.

    Next up - make sure you're taking time to relax in your daily routine. It's easy to fall into a pattern of overwork that becomes counterproductive, especially when the situations get grim, like exam time tends to be. Even a simple thing like taking a daily hour long walk can go a long way toward relieving any stress you're feeling.

    Also, if you aren't already following a good nutrition plan with attendant exercise, consider starting. Feeling good physically is the first step to feeling good mentally.

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    Slashdot - where whining about luck is the new way to make the world you want.
    1. Re:Pressure is a bitch by aprilsound · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Agreed, but make that psychiatrist, not psychologist. There are physiological factors that contribute to panic attacks, and having an MD explain them to you can do wonders.

      Plus, like the parent said, there are probably diet and exercise considerations that will help you out.

      People can say "You shouldn't worry so much" and that sort of thing, but if that is all you needed, then you probably wouldn't be here in the first place.

      At the very least, if you talk to a doctor, you'll be able to understand it better, and he/she'll probably tell you things you can do. Being able to do something will also make you feel better.

    2. Re:Pressure is a bitch by SanityInAnarchy · · Score: 1

      You've hit on just about what I would say: Stress is something you have to treat by treating your whole self, body and mind. No inhaler, stress squeeze ball, or any one thing will help, especially if you had no idea it was coming (and thus no time to prepare for it).

      Next up - make sure you're taking time to relax in your daily routine.

      This is important! It's amazing how many people miss this!

      One idea: If your campus is anything like mine, it's medium to large, but everything is still within walking distance, and the shortest distance between any two places on campus (including the dorms) is a sidewalk. Walk everywhere. At least sometimes, walk alone, and make sure that at least with the first and last class of the day, you're not in a rush. A nice stroll through a nice campus, relaxing and taking in the scenery and thinking about very little, will calm you down and help with stress. A brisk walk because you only have 5 minutes to get to your next class, with you thinking and worrying about every detail of your life, will only make things worse.

      I don't mean to make that sound difficult or delecate. Once you get the hang of it, it's easy to relax, especially if you have a habit or a setting (or both) that relaxes you. My school had a pond -- walk around the pond, even if it's out of your way.

      Be prepared to fail. If this becomes a problem for you, practice failing. By that I mean, take the smallest, easiest nothing class you've got -- something like English 101 -- and fail it, intentionally. Go into the exam, try legitimately, but halfway through it, tell yourself "It doesn't matter" and start drawing doodles. It might even help to fail the whole course on purpose, then retake it and pass easily. Knowing that you can survive after failing is one thing, doing it is another. Knowing you should stop caring is one thing, purposely doing it is another. And if you can completely stop caring about one class, maybe you can almost stop caring about another, more important one -- lighten up, relax, maybe get a B on purpose, but don't fail on purpose.

      I also meditated (transcendental meditation -- great for stress), and when I was doing well, I was going to bed relatively early (8 or 9) and waking up relatively early (sunrise). If you possibly can, find something solid for breakfast -- our cafeteria "breakfast" was donuts and crap, so I looked for cold cereal or pancakes.

      Also, if you aren't already following a good nutrition plan with attendant exercise, consider starting. Feeling good physically is the first step to feeling good mentally.

      Take care of your body, also. Stress in the body is stress in the mind, and vice versa. If you carry a laptop, try to have a relatively light one, and try to get ebooks for it -- DRM'd or not, they take a load off your back. Especially with a philosophy or literature class, you can probably find stuff on Gutenberg. If you have time between classes to go back to your room, make sure you only carry what you need for the class you have to go to at the moment. Even if you have one class right after another, two books is better than five or six. If you possibly can, keep notes on your laptop instead of paper -- it keeps them organized, AND takes more weight off your back.

      If you're overweight, lose weight. If you're out of shape, get in shape. If you're in shape, exercise anyway. If possible, the exercise should be something you like to do anyway -- for me it was DDR -- or at least something unobtrusive, like Shovelglove. But don't stress about it. Worry about it once, so you can make a plan (shovelglove, ddr, no S diet), then follow your plan and forget about your goal.

      If you're going to do stupid shit like drink tons of beer or coke, or if you like to be up all night partying, keep it under control. By that I mean, sure, go wild, but give yourself time to catch up from it. Caffeine is sort of the equivalent of the Wall in

      --
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    3. Re:Pressure is a bitch by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      I'd suggest talking to both. I've had anxiety attacks in the past (which I've gotten over without meds). And the psychiatrist seemed to prefer to make the problems disappear with a few pills, while the psychologist helped to sort out my thoughts and get to the root of what was on my mind.

      That said, there are many instances where anxiety attacks are chemical and cannot be reasoned away, in which case psychiatrists are necessary. Also, it helped to have the 'safety valve' of the psychiatrist too, in that I knew if things didn't work out without meds, I always had the option of taking meds as a backup plan.

  10. Medical option by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There is always the medical option. Your doctor/counselor can usually give you a light benzodiazapine to take the edge off while you study. I'd also ask you if there are other problems in your life that may be distracting you or causing you stress? The simple option is to go get help. Also, a doctor may give you Adderal to help you concentrate. Try it.

  11. Test Anxiety by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The most likely cause of exam anxiety is to think about an exam in a polarized way: perfect or failure. This is not a realistic method since it is highly improbable that you will score a perfect score all the time. Additionally, everyone faces an exam where they find out that they were unprepared and have their ass handed to them.

    If you are half an hour into an exam and you realize that you have not prepared and the exam is kicking your ass you need to regain your focus before anxiety sets in.
    #1: don't think about the reprocussions of failure *during* the exam, or directly leading up to the exam.
    #2: don't think about how poorly you are doing on the exam--think about how you are performing the current question.
    #3: realize that your exam score was determined prior to the exam by the effectiveness of your study program. You aren't going to get lucky beyond statistical variances to dramatically change your score during the exam. The actual taking of the exam is just a formality. Try to make it reflect what you know, not what you wish you knew.

  12. See your physician. by MagicDude · · Score: 5, Interesting

    If this is the first instance of you having a panic attack like this without ever having been a "worried" person in the past, then you want to make sure you don't have a diagnosable problem. Personality changes generally aren't so sudden without an underlying pathological condition.

    1. Re:See your physician. by SubliminalVortex · · Score: 2, Funny

      It's pretty obvious that you learned this in Psych class. It's also a stock answer for those who want to gather clientele early in their career...

  13. Cold, hard logic by hahafaha · · Score: 3, Informative

    A similar thing has happened to me, albeit not as seriously. Just use cold, hard logic. Do not let emotions get the best of you. Reason it out, you know this, you've been studying this for months, you have done countless other problems like it.

    Instead of looking at the whole assignment as a problem, break it up into more manageable ones. Chances are you know something, or else you probably would not have enjoyed the class. Try to identify which part is giving you trouble and reason it out.

    The title of this article is ``Copying with Exam *Panic* Attacks?''. If you are panicking because you are afraid that you will fail, reason it out: if you walk out, you are sure to fail. You miss 100% of the shots you don't take, and all that.

    Seriously, just relax. Think of it logically, and you will be fine.

    1. Re:Cold, hard logic by Amouth · · Score: 1

      "Copying with Exam *Panic* Attacks?"

      Copying with Exam - associated with Panic Attacks.. gee i wonder why..

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    2. Re:Cold, hard logic by misleb · · Score: 1
      A similar thing has happened to me, albeit not as seriously. Just use cold, hard logic. Do not let emotions get the best of you. Reason it out, you know this, you've been studying this for months, you have done countless other problems like it.


      Unless you've had all out panic where you feel like jumping out of your skin and fleeing from the room, you don't really know what it is like. I've had my share of panic situations, and I can honestly say that "cold hard logic" is worthless in these situations. It only feeds the paranoia and perpetuates the feedback loop that eventually snowballs out of control. No matter how logical the thoughts, there is always a "what if." For example, "I've studied this for months. I know this material... but what if I freeze up and draw a blank? Oh no! I think I've freezing up! I can't remember anything! What am I going to do? Oh God, the teacher can see that I am panicking! He's gonna fail me for interrupting the exam..."

      Best thing to do is to simply (or maybe not so simply) stop the thoughts. Take pause. Breath. Focus on breath. Maybe breath into a paper bag if available. Have someone comfort you (probably not appropriate in an exam situation though). There is no reasoning through a panic attack in most cases unless the reasoning is coming from someone else that you trust.

      -matthew
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      "THERE IS NO JUSTICE, THERE IS ONLY ME." -Death
    3. Re:Cold, hard logic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Seriously, just relax. Think of it logically, and you will be fine.

      Not necessarily. I'm not sure what the submission author experienced, but panic attacks and panic disorder are a very real and occasionally debilitating condition. I have panic attacks occasionally myself, although fortunately not frequently enough to cross the line into full-blown panic disorder, which can often result in agoraphobia and other irrational behaviours.

      I wish this condition had a different name. Everyone panics on occasion, so when they hear the term "panic attack", they associate this with their own panic experiences, which is a different kind of thing altogether. Panic attacks typically happen quite suddenly, without any apparent cause. It's difficult to describe, but it's like getting a big adrenaline dump comletely out of the blue. A typical experience is to feel weak, short of breath, and afraid. Not just a little afraid, but terrified, as if something terrible is going to happen, like death. Your skin, fingers, lips, etc. might tingle. This is typically a result of hyperventilating, although you probably don't realize you're doing it. Breathing into a paper bag can help with this. An episode will typically last for 15 minutes a half an hour or so, and then it just passes. Everything goes completely back to normal.

      I don't know what happened to the submission author (or you). Perhaps the test was overwhelming, they were overtired, stressed, whatever, and felt temporarily overwhelmed. That's one thing. A panic attack is something else. If it was in fact a panic attack, then one of the dangers is to mistakenly associate that dreadful feeling with taking tests. This is the type of thing that happens to people with panic disorders. They begin to avoid elevators, crowds, or whatever else it is they associate with their attacks; hoping to dear god that this will help alleviate their condition.

      I wish I could explain it better. I'm somewhat embarrased to admit that this happens to me publically, because most people just look at you strangely and think you "just need to relax", like you say. Believe me, a real panic attack is nasty. I've gone to the emergency room twice, once in an ambulance, on account of how bad I felt in the middle of it. (By the time the ambulance arrived, I felt fine, and embarrassed that I hadn't just held out until it passed. OTOH, when you feel like you're going to die, you don't feel like taking any chances..)

  14. Let it consume you by Lacit · · Score: 0

    Althought this totally sounds like that tip right out of Lost, but I actually did this before Lost was on TV.

    Let the panic consume you absolutely and completly for 5 seconds. But for only 5 seconds. You'll be fine afterwards....

    Either that, or you'll be on the floor currled up in a ball...

  15. Well .. by ahmedsaad · · Score: 5, Informative

    You can read about other people experiences at http://www.panicsurvivor.com/

    1. Re:Well .. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > You can read about other people experiences at http://www.panicsurvivor.com/

      You americans are fascinating. Anything that happens to anybody is a market for something. Just cookie-cut, and give it some name.

      Some stress ? Sir, you have a Panic Attack Disorder
      Having up and downs ? Well, you have a Bipolar Disorder
      Sometimes bored ? That is Attention Deficit Disorder

      Mostly bullshit. Exams are hard, pressure is high, and sometimes one break. Big breaking news: that is the point of exams. Putting pressure, if you can't deal with that, you'll fail you exams. That is part of the game.

      We don't react to stress in the same way. I was f*cking brillant student (like in winner of major math competitions), but I used to be super stressed at exams. Just wanted to do the absolute absolute best. I had the opportunity to follow classes to go in the very best school of the country (this is not America). I had the knowledge, but the weekly exams (yes, weekly) were going to be extra-though. Made my research, on roughly 100 person admitted per year, there were 2 or 3 dropout, and sometimes a suicide.

      Could I handle it ? Was it worth it ? And if I went through it alive, would I still recognize me at the end ? Said no, went to the less stressfull path. Ended in a different kind of school, learnt a lot, did my (half-failed) startup and went on on my life.

      I used to be very stresses when demoing things to customers/VCs. Now, I have experience, I see how bullshitty it is, and I can handle hideous level of stress. I have seen people collapse under stress (and if you collapse at 30, it takes /years/ to recover). I have also seen people that /enjoy/ stress, that have to put themselves into stressfull stituation to be able to move forward.

      So, what is the point ? Know yourself. Know your limits. Don't push yourself over. Don't use artificial techniques to handle more stress, because you will pay for it at the end. You have learnt something about you during that exam, be glad for that.

      Eat & sleep well before exams, breath deeply before starting it, don't rush, and most importantly remember that in fact, it is not as important as you think. Health, family, friendship is important. Exams are not. One day, you'll have children, and you will see how futile this database exam was.

      Good luck.

    2. Re:Well .. by uglyduckling · · Score: 1
      Some stress ? Sir, you have a Panic Attack Disorder
      Having up and downs ? Well, you have a Bipolar Disorder
      Sometimes bored ? That is Attention Deficit Disorder

      No, you don't know what you're talking about. A disorder is diagnosed when someone experiences feelings and/or impulses that are well beyond that which a person could be expected to cope with. The experiences could be normal in their content (panic is a normal response to a stressful situation) or in the case of a psychosis totally bizarre.

      To take the example of panic, if it can be controlled by some positive thinking, breathing deeply and carrying on, then it's not a disorder by definition. If the individual cannot control it, and it is beginning to seriously affect their life, then it is appropriate to consider diagnosing a 'disorder' and giving treatment. That treatment might just be reassurance and some breathing exercises, it might be medication or a formal psychological therapy - whatever will help.

      Someone with bipolar disorder cannot function and live a normal life - they really can't. Their ability to function in the world is severely affected by what they are experiencing, and the change when given treatment can be dramatic. To say they have "ups and downs" is insulting. Same for ADD. There are formal diagnostic criteria for most psychiatric diagnoses that must be fulfilled: DSM-IV and ICD-10.

      I do agree that often psychiatric disorders are over-diagnosed, often becuase of a desire not to 'blame' someone for their predicament and find a reason why it's not their fault. But occasional or even frequent mis-diagnosis doesn't mean something isn't real. Lots of people say they have 'flu' when in fact they just have a common cold. If someone really has influenza they will feel absolutely awful and may need medical care (older adults in Britain are given influenza vaccine because many will die if they contract it). Just because lots of people claim to have 'flu' doesn't mean that those who really are suffering from it should be dismissed as 'someone with a cold who's just whineing'.

  16. Going through college.... by SubliminalVortex · · Score: 1

    Mid-terms and final exams are always good catalysts for future ulcers. However, if you're always prepared and up on the material, then it is difficult to see how you could become upset unless you landed in a class where a good number of other students are blowing the curve just as much as you are.

    When I was in college, I made 100% in all of my programming classes (literally, homework, tests, mid-terms and exams), while I struggled in subjects like electromagnetics and combinatorics. Conversely, some of my classmates were just 'naturals' at mathematics but could not seem to grasp programming languages. (Although, I could see it at the math level since most of their sentences were put together with one-letter words and lots of punctuation.)

    Are you finding yourself in this type of situation? Perhaps you are finding yourself in a subject that you don't feel you are 100% comfortable?

    Don't sweat it, do your best. Think about the times in the future when you're going to dream about going back to High School and acing everything or perhaps dreaming about the times you were at college and you found out that you had signed up for two courses you never went to, "drop day" just passed and there was a mid-term the next day.

    At least I'm not still dreaming about being naked at school... I got laughed out of all of those. :)

    1. Re:Going through college.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Small note - ulcers are caused by a bacterial infection, not stress. The proper response to getting an ulcer is to take a course of antibiotics, not to look for what is troubling you :)

  17. All Wrong by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Maybe your whole approach to stress management is wrong. It sounds to me like you consider being prepared a big part of avoiding anxiety. That's not it at all. It's important for your confidence, but if you managed stress well you could go into a test knowing you'd fail yet keep your feathers unruffled. I recommend putting yourself in a chain of extremely stressful situations to give yourself practice dealing with the anticipation of failure, the act of failing, and the aftermath. It'll teach you to keep a cool head. Either that or ruin your life, leaving you with nothing but tales of hard times to tell the other bums gathered around the garbage fire.

    The bottom line is: never get too involved in anything. "Too involved" varies a lot, but it basically means that you know when you're not thinking rationally, and you put a stopper in it whenever you aren't. Squelch unproductive thoughts before they can grow into full-on worries. Eventually it becomes second nature. Just don't become so detached that you sink into apathy. That's exactly the wrong thing to do. There's a correct amount to dwell on everything, and it's up to you to figure out what that is and limit yourself to it strictly.

  18. Test Preparation by eric2hill · · Score: 4, Informative
    As someone who can't stand to take tests, I offer the following experience:

    • Drink nothing but water for two days prior to the test. It will flush much of the caffene and sugary drinks out of your system. Eat non-fast food as well - there's more chemical preservatives in a McDonald's cheeseburger than you can imagine. Think pasta and/or steak.
    • The night before the test, take two Tylenol PM capsules and go to bed at 6:00PM. Yes, early. The REM sleep really burns the stuff you've studied for into your brain.
    • Get up an hour before you would normally get up, and get ready to go (shower, etc). A morning shower is a good waker-upper, and the extra hour will get rid of sleep inertia.
    • Go to the nearest gas station or convenience store and get a great big glass of orange juice. The vitamins in OJ really help in the morning. Obviously you could drink it at home, but the extra stop and go-in at someplace you don't normally go helps to sharpen your early-morning brain a bit more as well.


    The flushing of all the chemicals in your system will help loads. The extra sleep will give you energy through the dull test, and the OJ will give you a morning brain-kick. All natural even.

    Good luck and have fun!
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    1. Re:Test Preparation by BobNET · · Score: 1

      I'll second this... I never worried much during exams and it's probably cause I did almost all of this anyway.

      Except the Tylenol PM bit. If you're trying to avoid strange chemicals in your body you may as well avoid this one, too. Plus the lack of caffeine for a few days will help you get to bed early -- and sleep better, too. But I wouldn't go to bed at 6pm unless the exam is very early the next morning. Waking up an hour early is a good idea, though...

    2. Re:Test Preparation by misleb · · Score: 1
      Except the Tylenol PM bit. If you're trying to avoid strange chemicals in your body you may as well avoid this one, too. Plus the lack of caffeine for a few days will help you get to bed early -- and sleep better, too. But I wouldn't go to bed at 6pm unless the exam is very early the next morning. Waking up an hour early is a good idea, though...


      I have a tough time going to bed early. I've tried. And when I can managed to fall asleep, I will rarely sleep through the night. I will usually wake up often and have a difficult time getting back to sleep. If I go to sleep later (not too late, obviously) I can get better quality sleep (even if it is less quanitity). But maybe that is because I am a night owl....

      -matthew
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      "THERE IS NO JUSTICE, THERE IS ONLY ME." -Death
    3. Re:Test Preparation by valindar · · Score: 1
      Drink nothing but water for two days prior to the test. It will flush much of the caffene and sugary drinks out of your system.
      Bad idea on the no caffeine if you're a caffeine addict - hard to concentrate during an exam when you've got a massive headache from caffeine withdrawals. Two days isn't going to get rid of them.
  19. Knowing the subject inside out helps heaps! by bunbuntheminilop · · Score: 1

    I don't want to be a smartass, but I was always much calmer in the exams where I knew what was going to happen because I was prepared for it.

  20. Simple solution: Graduate. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have never had a panic attack as you describe, but I had a friend in university that suffered a few such attacks, also while writing exams. She also had a panic attack while driving to an exam, which was a very dangerous occurence.

    What I learned from her is that there is no way to cope with stress-induced panic attacks as long as the stress still exists. You will have to graduate to make them stop, or tone down the workload.

    University can be very stressful for a lot of people, especially in more technical disciplines such as science, mathematics or CS. If you still have a number of terms until you are finished, I'd say your best course of action would be to take one less course a term for a few terms, or even take a term off. The difference in stress between 4 courses and 5 (or 6!) courses a term is substantial.

    Good luck to you

  21. Been There by Jedi+Master+Cody · · Score: 5, Informative

    As someone who has been there, I would suggest talking to your physician first. He/She can then help you figure out a plan of attack. My Panic Attacks stemmed from basically the same problem as you. Mine became so bad I got caught up in a feedback loop. I would have an attack, then get so worked up about having another, it would lead into one. It became so bad I became EXTREMELY agoraphobic. Not something I would reccomend to anyone. I finally went and got help from my Dr and a mental health professional. I am now on medication and have been attack free for over a year. The medication I would suggest is Paxil or the generic equivalent, but your doctor would be the best one to check with. Hope this helps and good luck!

    1. Re:Been There by whalewatcher · · Score: 1
      For sudden panic attacks in the middle of exams which can be very difficult to control, I'll recommend taking Xanax. As another poster has pointed out, they can prevent these from happening at very low doses (0.25 mg) and you'll stay sharp enough for the exams.

      However--whatever your doc says--don't take them every day. Tolerance to these things can build up quickly. My own doctor says that carrying them in your handbag can be as effective as taking them, simply due to the knowledge that they can prevent an attack. I found that they help in as little as five minutes.

      In the long term, cognitive behavioural therapy is the best approach; you'll learn to recognize the signs and control anxiety.

      Definitely stay off caffeine.

      Finally (and this is why I reply to the above post), if there's any history of bipolar disorders in your family, avoid Paxil (paroxetine) as it can make moodswings considerably worse and lead to hostility and suicidal ideation. If you need to take an SSRI, use a milder one like Prozac.

  22. Solution: by voice_of_all_reason · · Score: 1, Funny

    Don't be japanese

  23. Deal with your stress now by McMuffin+Man · · Score: 5, Informative

    I'm at a very different moment in life than you are, but several years ago I had a severe panic attack "out of the blue" while managing a large project. Once I'd understood what was going on, I responded like a good little geek and checked out the research on panic attacks.

    While you should definitely seek the help of a professional, as you can dangerously misdiagnose yourself, the most likely cause is a high level of stress that you haven't been managing. Anxiety disorders in general become progressively harder to treat the longer you live with them, so don't try to just tough this out.

    If you need it, a psychiatrist may be able to prescribe medication which can provide short term relief. Far more effective over the long term will be to engage in some cognitive therapy and learn to recognize the early symptoms that you are not managing stress and respond to them before your stress results in anxiety.

    I would recommend the site www.anxieties.com as a good place to start. It's run by a respected clinician in the field, and while the site advertises plenty of materials you could pay for, it has a fair amount of information and advice available for free.

    The good news is that if you take this seriously, respond quickly, and learn to comprehensively manage your stress, then your odds of avoiding a chronic anxiety disorder are quite good.

  24. Shifting Gears by FirmWarez · · Score: 4, Insightful

    When I was in the last couple of years of my undergrad -- computer engineering -- the way I'd deal with hard core tests (Calculus IV, control systems, etc) was by completely shifting gears right before the test.

    Guys would always be cramming that last hour or so before the test. Look, if you don't understand how to do a Laplace transform you ain't gonna learn it 30 minutes before the test. To freak out then ya gotta be fracking crazy.

    I have a lot of non-technical interests, and a big one is sports cars and sports car racing. I'd take a couple of car porn mags and read about sports car restoration or racing skillz in the common areas while watching every one else act like nut cases. It really calmed me down, and reminded me that I knew this stuff.

    There's a saying in the world of professional soldiers -- you fight like you train. Same about tests. If you know the material and are comfortable with it you will test like you train.

    1. Re:Shifting Gears by flamearrows · · Score: 1

      Seconded. I always think that studying the night before is hilarious redundant. I personally enjoy killing a few brain cells playing computer games, but your mileage may vary.

      --
      The indiscriminate use of vulgar language is the linguistic crutch of the inarticulate motherfucker
  25. I've experienced similar things. by Elyjah · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I had several in college when I was working on my undergrad engineering degree, and not always around exam time. Like you, I enjoyed the subject and I was excelling in the class. Turns out I just don't deal with stress well. People make jokes about it on here, but it's not something to be ashamed of. (Their narcissism must protect them from actually having to deal with real emotion.)

    This isn't something you can just "turn off" by trying really hard. Some people have suggested you see a physician. That may not be a bad idea. There are several physical things that can cause this and a doctor can help examine those.

    What I found worked best for me was trying to keep a sense of perspective. It felt like everything in my future was riding on how I did in school. Anyway, what worked best for me was keeping a healthy sense of perspective (life goes on even if you have panic attacks about exams) and to make sure I had at least an hour each day I could spend doing something non-school related (reading a book I wanted to read, star-gazing, playing Half-life, etc...) These times helped me to disengage my brain for a bit so I was no longer trying to do but was instead just trying to be.

    Best of luck to you. I applaud your openess in bringing your question to this caustic and cynical crowd.

  26. Drugs. by supersocialist · · Score: 1

    Eat some 30 minutes before the test and you'll feel fine. Take it a few times before a test to determine your threshold between calm and mind-numbed, because you don't want to make yourself retarded right before an exam. I take a .5mg tablet before gigs and exams and I haven't pissed myself in terror since.

    1. Re:Drugs. by supersocialist · · Score: 1

      Damn it, some xanax. I don't mean drugs in general, you'd be quite the fool to take a test on, well, basically anything. 2ci (currently legal) has a seriously analytical bend and unlike many drugs actually enhances memory recall. Some folks actually use it to study.

  27. A few suggestions by Ruins · · Score: 1

    I have never really had a panic attack, but I do get nervous at big exams. I have had good performance at exams, including university exams. (I on scholarship, doing a PhD in robotics...)

    Anyways, I find that if you can channel your nervous energy into thinking about the exam, especially during the actual 3-hour test, it helps a lot. I don't know if it was the adrenaline or just nerves, but I generally worked faster during the exam period. This might have to do with the fact that I tend to work better when there is an immediate deadline in front of me.

    I did cram for exams quite a bit, usually a few hours before the exam, just to keep some of the tedious material fresh. This is pretty useful for subjects that require you to commit quotes and information to memory. But, for engineering and science subjects, its more about understanding than memorisation, so, I tend to just chill out before those exams. This may include music, some gaming or just playing some sports. I personally don't do much socializing before exams, as I find my friends can be very, very distracting. And I end up remembering most of our conversations, as opposed to exam material.

    A final piece of advice. Don't think about anything else outside the exam. Not that job you want after graduation, not about the parties and not about what would happen if you fail. Just think about the exam and try to recall, in your mind, what you know and what you don't. Spend your time learning about what you don't know. When ever you feel pressured and panic, just say to yourself "What can I do to make the situation better?" and you should, after a while, just automatically either relax or re-read some parts of the material that you think you need extra work on.

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  28. you are not going nuts by kshkval · · Score: 5, Informative

    The above sounds like an awful thing to bring up, but don't confuse panic attacks with psychosis. I had panic attacks in HS and - years later - so did my daughter. Both of us worried ourselves sick wondering if the next stop was voices, social shunning and the lockup ward. I was an A student and just backed off a little. My daughter got a lot of relief just knowing that panic attacks are familial, can be controlled with medication and relaxation and that panic attacks aren't a sign you are a basket case. Turns out that my daughter also discovered that SLEEP - aka getting to bed before 11 PM and just stopping doing the homework - made the greatest impact on her anxiety and her ability to deal with stress. Another writer complemented you on bringing this up in a Slashdot venue... same here. But do yourself a favor and get to bed early, no more caffeine, get some exercise and have some good times. You'll eventually learn to live with the panic attacks (or, mostly, the worry about having the panic attacks). If they continue or get worse, call a Clinical Psychologist or Psychiatrist as soon as you can. So many of these things, if treated early - even the emotional disorders - resolve and get quickly better. The professionals will help you through the worst of the crisis and are really worth it. I'm a nurse and someone who's lived through this and speak from personal experience. Good luck.

  29. Empathy by hahiss · · Score: 5, Informative

    Hi.

    Sorry to hear about this; while I've never had an attack while taking an exam, but I have had my share of panic attacks.

    Short term strategies (for when they hit):

    1) If you have some benzos (xanax, valium, and the like), take one. Xanax takes about 20 minutes to hit, and it is possible to take a dose that cuts the attack without making you a drooling idiot. Really, having these around (esp. legally) will make a difference in your anxiety levels.

    2) Close your eyes and breathe deeply---FOCUSING on breathing. You want to get more oxygen to your brain; apparently the shallow breathing of anxiety increases anxiety.

    3) If you can get to a water fountain, a cold drink might help. I find that cold, sugary drinks are soothing---just no caffeine.

    4) If you can get to a quiet, relatively isolated place, that might help too.

    5) Keep reminding yourself that this really sucks, but it is just a panic attack and you're not going crazy and you're not going to have a heart attack.

    Long term:

    1) Get enough sleep, eat properly, exercize, and cut back on caffeine. (Sorry, this is what works. I was hoping for smoking, boozing, downing Krispe Kreme donuts and freebasing chocolate covered espresso, but no such luck.) As an aside: if you're smoking pot (especially if you're a habitual user), you may find it necessary to stop.

    2) If the attacks continue, you'll want to get with a therapist who can help you figure out what your triggers are and how to work through them.

    3) If you have panic with depression, I recommend meds. They have their downsides, to be sure, but they have made a huge difference. (Be forewarned that the first med you've been prescribed will work quite right.)

    Of course, I'm not an MD---just a Ph.D. (in philosophy) who has some personal experience with this. YMMV, and be sure to get professional help if this becomes more than a one-off.

    --
    "Every decent man is ashamed of the government he lives under." - H.L. Mencken
    1. Re:Empathy by Foggerty · · Score: 1

      Just to add to the above re breathing (my Father has an anxiety disorder - I have a mild one), thats very good advice.
      An ex of mine once had a panic attack and I pretty much talked her down by getting her to focus on her breathing. "In through the nose, out through the mouth, keep looking at me" It works for two reason:

      a) When having a panic attack you tent to hyperventilate (sp?) and so lose oxygen, which just makes things feel worse
      b) Having something to focus on, ANYTHING other than what is making you anxious helps. Anxiety/panic tends to be nasty in that you start to focus on something, worry about it and so focus more on it. Focusing on your breathing can break that cycle. Sounds odd but it does work.

      I'd also like to re-enforce what a few other people have said: panic attacks don't mean your nuts (you calling my dad nuts? Huh?) it's propablly just an indication that you're heavily stressed and not dealing with it (and are probablly not aware of just how much stress you're putting yourself under).

    2. Re:Empathy by mr.hawk · · Score: 1

      Very good advice!

      I experienced my first panic attack "out of the blue" almost twenty years ago. Over the years I learnt to recognize and somewhat limit their impact. To reduce the number of attacks I'd generally avoid stressful situations and just generally try to slow down. Like the parent says, find the triggers and remove them.

      It was only quite recently (five years ago) that I finally rooted out the major trigger - caffeine! Ever since I completely removed my caffeine intake I haven't even been close to triggering an attack. Stressful situations that used to trigger attacks are no longer a problem after abolishing caffeine. I also find my physical and mental stamina to be way better without caffeine than with it. In addition, the hit I get from the caffeine the few odd times I use it is way more effective and controllable.

      So, if you're a habitual user of caffeine; drop the habit and see if it helps. Just remember that caffeine exists in so many more places than coffee and soft drinks!

    3. Re:Empathy by Fulkkari · · Score: 1

      Absolutely don't close your eyes! If you are sitting on a chair, put your head between your knees and look down. If you are standing, try to sit down. Take slow deep breaths. Don't think! Just focus on breathing and you will soon see the panic attack end, although you will probably feel weak and sweaty and have a headache afterwards.

      Panic attacks occur when your body is preparing for major physical activity. This means that your pulse will increase and you will start to breath faster. It is triggered in situations when you feel some sort danger. In the past this would mean a life-threatening situation where you would prepare yourself to defend yourself (like a bear attacks you or something). In the modern society however, this "feature" is pretty useless, but mostly harmless. The problem occurs when it is triggered by a false positive, a completely safe situation, like an exam.

      You don't want more oxygen to your brain. Actually you want less oxygen. Do a test: sit down and start breathing faster than you normally would. This is called hyperventilation and this is what you normally do during panic attacks. After a while you will then see all the same symptoms that occur during panic attacks. This is a great way to create your own panic attacks, and learn how to handle in such situations. Become familiar with the symptoms and most of all, learn to breath slowly! (This is why some people recommend to breathe in paper bags, I've heard - to decrease the amount of oxygen in your blood)

      PS. When I was still learning how to handle panic attacks, I always had a bottle of water with me. If I'm standing and can't sit down, I always try to move around (do physical activity). Your body is preparing for major physical activity, remember? It is feature, not a bug.

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    4. Re:Empathy by hahiss · · Score: 1


      Actually I don't think we disagree too much here; I was thinking not that people hyperventilate (which obviously isn't good!) but that there's a tendency NOT to breathe frequently enough---if you're having racing thoughts and are overwhelmed, breathing frequency AND depth can go down. But you're right, you can get too much O2.

      But if a person's panic attacks are caused/exacerbated by stimulation, closing one's eyes and moving to a darkened quiet room can be very soothing. (And if you're in a crowded lecture hall, closing your eyes means you don't look around Of course, if you're standing up or driving, I recommend that you sit down or pull over first.

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      "Every decent man is ashamed of the government he lives under." - H.L. Mencken
    5. Re:Empathy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Been there too - this advice is really good. Learning how to do the breathing thing is key. The only thing I'd add is

      1) Take it seriously.
      It might not just go away - one panic attack tends to lead to another. See a doctor and follow their advice. It worked for me.

      2) Don't take it too seriously.
      These things can do you no harm - it's a mental state you can escape - essentially you are a perfectly well person. There's no reason why you won't put this completely behind you.

      "The Anxiety and Phobia Workbook" ed. Edmund J. Bourne is a great resource you can pick up from Amazon too. It focusses on practical help and how to put panic attacks behind you.

      Good luck.

    6. Re:Empathy by Fulkkari · · Score: 1

      Having your eyes closed after the panic attack is something I do myself. However during the attack I think it is better to have the eyes open and try to fight unconsciousness and the feeling of loosing of control. By closing the eyes, I at least feel an increase of dizziness rather than decreasing. But if you feel better with closing you're eyes, I'm not going to argue with that. Not all panic attacks are the same, and one should find a way of handling that suits.

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    7. Re:Empathy by Znork · · Score: 1

      "You want to get more oxygen to your brain; apparently the shallow breathing of anxiety increases anxiety."

      Actually, IIRC, what happens is the body stress system prepares for fight/flight response, which increases breathing rate as the body _thinks_ it will need more oxygen. As there usually is no strong physical exertion, the blood CO2 level falls, leading to pH changes, the end result being dizziness, faintness and tingling in the extremities, etc.

      So, unless doing calisthenetics or running laps (or you have, for example, a boar to wrestle with) seem like a good idea, you need to normalize the breathing, as the bodys response systems isnt set at the correct level for sitting still. Learning basic rules like square breathing (4 seconds inhale, 4 seconds hold, 4 seconds exhale, 4 seconds hold) can help, as it should be closer to the usual balance. The old paper bag technique can also work (partially re-inhaling your exhaled air will allow CO2 to remain balanced even when overbreathing).

      It's quite frightening (as it's more or less raw fear), but it's a perfectly natural response to excessive stress that's just not very adapted to modern life.

    8. Re:Empathy by hahiss · · Score: 1


      Yeah, no doubt! But what really makes me feel better is the xanax . . . .

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      "Every decent man is ashamed of the government he lives under." - H.L. Mencken
    9. Re:Empathy by GWBasic · · Score: 1
      I'm not quite sure if I've had "classic" panic attacks, but whenever I've had problems with anxiety, it was due to problems in my social life. This occured when I graduated from school, because the social structure of my jobs were quite different from what I was used to at school.

      As an aside: if you're smoking pot (especially if you're a habitual user), you may find it necessary to stop.

      What's funny is that the anxiety that I had was party related to stopping; I was no longer seeing my friends from college on a regular basis. When I moved into an apartment close to my college, (and restarted the noted lifestyle,) the anxiety went away.

  30. I KInda Disagree by Greyfox · · Score: 4, Interesting
    But I think you're on the right track:

    1) Cut out on sugary drinks completely. They're empty carbs that make you jittery during the day and mess up your teeth. The jury's still out on caffiene I like it, but don't OD on the stuff. It's just as hard to focus through caffiene jitters as it is through soft drink jitters.

    2) Going to sleep early: Good. Taking drugs to get to sleep early: Bad. I've noticed that if I take something like nyquil I have a much harder time getting up the next morning, no matter what time I go to bed. Unless the exam's at 6am, I wouldn't suggest going to bed any earlier than 9pm, but I wouldn't suggest pushing it much later either.

    3) Orange juice good. It's a full day's supply of vitamin C. High protien breakfast also good. While some people prefer steak and eggs, I like steak and steak. Or oatmeal.

    4) Exercise also good. A little exercise in the morning always seems to wake me up. If you're on a cool campus you can go straight from your steak and steak breakfast to the gym for a quick round of kick boxing, then you'll be set to face whatever challenges the day brings!

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    1. Re:I KInda Disagree by Deltaspectre · · Score: 1

      It really depends on the kind of person you are as for the nyquil/related. One regular adult sized serving of nyquil will have me out of it for around 3-5 days, so lately if I've had to take it, I'll take a childs serving or less.

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    2. Re:I KInda Disagree by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      >1) Cut out on sugary drinks completely. They're empty carbs that make you jittery during the day and mess up your teeth ...
      > 3) Orange juice good

      Make up your mind. Orange juice is sugar water with a vitamin C tablet. There's about at much sugar in OJ as in Coke. (checking fridge) 36 grams/12 oz (OJ), 39 grams/12 oz Coke.

      Point 1 is correct.

    3. Re:I KInda Disagree by Greyfox · · Score: 1

      Yeah, actually I limit myself to one glass of OJ once every week to two weeks. Which isn't anywhere near the 3 coke a day soft drink habit of some of my co-workers. If you're preparing for a test you might go ahead and treat yourself, but I wouldn't do it every day. Some dietician suggested a glass of skim milk instead, but I can't stomach the stuff personally. I stick to water most of the time (3 litres a day for super-awesome-healthyness!)

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      I'm trying to teach myself to set people on fire with my mind... Is it hot in here?

    4. Re:I KInda Disagree by Mia'cova · · Score: 1

      Um, sugar's a good start when it comes to basic survival. There's nothing unhealthy about a glass of orange juice. Do you think 112 cals/glass is going to give you diabetes? Limiting yourself to one glass every two weeks sounds anorexic, not health conscious... Not to be hostel but come on... are we not being a wee bit paranoid? Hell, water it down a little if you don't think your body is up to the challenge of 21 grams of sugar. I need energy in my system to have a clear head. A good well rounded meal with plenty of real fruit/veg juices and milk really helps me feel good. Limiting yourself to drinking water and vitamin pills all day seems silly to me. I really only go for water when at the gym/pool where I wouldn't be able to stomach the sweet. Mind you, something more watered down like the odd gatorade/whatever can really hit the spot there too.

      But yea, lots of water is great. Clearly 3 litres of a thick sweet orange juice would be really pushing it. I'm just saying that cutting back to the point where you're essentially removing juice from your diet is extreme. I think most nutritionists would disagree with you there.

      Source: http://www.nutritiondata.com/facts-B00001-01c20Vr. html

    5. Re:I KInda Disagree by WFFS · · Score: 2, Interesting

      All of that is good. However, the trick I found is to eat some chocolate, preferably DURING the exams. The phenyl-ethylamine stimulates the brain, and the seratonin can help prevent depressive symptoms. Plus it has caffiene! My first uni maths exam, I had a massive panic attack. Every exam after that I ate some chocolate, and never had an attack again.

    6. Re:I KInda Disagree by Greyfox · · Score: 1

      I do get some sugar in my diet. There was a time when I was drinking nothing but soft drinks at work, and it'd be pretty easy to lapse into that behavior again. So I try to lean toward keeping it a treat rather than get into the habit of having one or more a day.

      --

      I'm trying to teach myself to set people on fire with my mind... Is it hot in here?

    7. Re:I KInda Disagree by Greyfox · · Score: 1

      If chocolate works for you that's great. I hope you're getting the good stuff though, rather than that waxy crap from the uni junk food machine. While the average student might find it difficult to part with $5 for a bar of imported Valrona, that one bar is easily superior to the 5 bars of ugh that the money would buy from the snack machine for the same amount of money. You might be able to find a US supplier for less money too. I think that'd make an excellent quest: Evaluate all local and foreign producers of chocolate to find one that delivers excellent price versus quality!

      --

      I'm trying to teach myself to set people on fire with my mind... Is it hot in here?

    8. Re:I KInda Disagree by pixelguru · · Score: 1

      As someone who has had to completely eliminate caffeine from my diet due to panic attacks, I'm living proof that the human body CAN function normally without caffeine. I've met people who live normally on a very reduced carb diet that is almost completely sugar-free.

      I've never heard of a person who could do both and still summon the energy to keep their heart beating.

  31. Don't stress, get sleep by scdeimos · · Score: 5, Insightful

    YMMV, but as a survivor of several panic attacks over the years I have found that they've usually been brought on by combinations of stress and lack of sleep. My suggestions:

    • Learn to compartmentalize: keep work/school worries at work/school, don't bring them home with you.
    • Realize you what can and can't do: There will always be some things beyond your control, so don't worry about them.
    • Don't lose sleep: If you're feeling tired during your days at work/school, go to bed earlier at night, try taking (natural) things to help you get to sleep like warm milk, valerian extract, whatever works for you.
  32. Meditate (kinda) by trainsnpep · · Score: 2, Informative

    Seriously. I learned it in 7th grade health. I'm a sophomore comp sci major at a major research university. I don't know if it's "real" meditation, but it works. You don't need to spend an hour doing it. You don't even need to spend 15 minutes. Only about 5.

    Here's a sort of crash course based on what I've found works best for me as a short break in those gruelling 3 (or more) hour exams:

    Sit up. Close your eyes. Take deep slow breaths in through your nose and out through your mouth. Let your body feel all the feelings you ignored (one at a time), moving from the bottom up. Feel the shoes on your feet all the way up to the hair on your head that your body ignored. Don't smell things if you know they're not cool. Taste if you can. Listen to the tiny sounds in the room. Make sure you're still taking deep slow breaths. Think yourself through it. Think about how irrational it is to panic. Think about how even if you don't get a perfect score, in the long run, it won't matter that much. Now come out of it just as slowly as you went into it: put out your irrational thoughts. Let go of the feelings you were just paying attention to. Breathe normally. Open your eyes. Go at your test again.

    It may sound like a crock, and it did to me at first, but it may work.

    --
    --<Mike>--
    1. Re:Meditate (kinda) by Hast · · Score: 1

      Personally I don't like the "feel your body" type mediation exercises.

      Two that work better for me is to either breathe slowly and count down from 100 with each breath. Try to only think of the number you are on, if you get distracted start from 100 again.

      The second (and my favourite) is to concentrate on your breathing. Try to breath in - hold your breath - and breath out, while doing this try to meke each of the three steps take the same amount of time. (So count in your head.) This really helps me focus on not thinking about anything else and can work great for calming down.

      I typically use that (or similar breath in - breath out) exercises if I get annoyed by something stupid in every day life. Such as getting stuck in the slowest queue at the supermarket.

  33. Sleep... an no redbull by saurabhdutta · · Score: 1

    Sleep... as much as you can before your exam. Thats the single most inmportant thing to cope with exam panic attacks. Happened to me a year back. had 2 exams back to back on the same day. Stayed up all night. Prepared nicely. Ended up getting D in both the papers (Power Systems and High velocity fluids). Also seek medical attention if necessary. A tab of nexito/xanax do work in cooling you down. Also never ever take red bull before any paper. Fks up with your system. Thoughts just dont flow. Anyway, if nothing works, just go drunk to the exam.

  34. I had a panick attack before one exam by Spy+der+Mann · · Score: 1

    I hadn't had any before, I'm sure it was stress related to other situations. Anyway, i was so panicked that I never went there. Turns out that I knew all the questions, so i lost a gold opportunity. So, I presented the next exam, and failed :-/ But who cares, I repeated the course (yes, lost a semester) and passed :)

    So, chill out, the world's not gonna end - i mean, you aren't Jesus saving the world. It's just a freaking exam. Take it easy, ok? The only people who have died because they didn't pass are usually japanese students - and that's because they kill themselves in shame. (yeah, weird guys).

    So, take my advice. ENJOY! Whether you pass or fail, ENJOY! Later you'll miss school time when you have to work 8 or 10 hours a-day :P

    Joke aside, I really don't know what's going on with society. Suddenly this exam thing looks like you're ruining your life if you fail. I recall a video that a guy didn't complete college and his life wasn't ruined. He still got a decent job, and managed to live a happy life.

    So my advice is: Rethink your priorities, take a deep breath, and stop pressuring yourself that much.

  35. might i suggest... by matty+is+for+lovers · · Score: 1

    I was diagnosed with social anxiety disorder some years ago, and certainly know what your going through. Since this isn't something that seems to happen frequently to you, talking to a doctor probably isn't needed. However I'm actually going to say (as someone who is on medication) the "pop a pill before the exam" thing might not be a best idea depending on you. People tend to forget these are drugs mess with very sensitive brain chemestry. Just cause these are legal and generally don't hurt people if they take a small dose doesnt make them right for everyone. What I use for time to time panic attacks is this stuff called "Bach's Rescue Remedy". You can get it in a health food store, it's an herbal remedy that I swear by, and know quite a few people who I never expected who also use it. Its about 20 USD per small vial or spray bottle, calms you down in about 20 minutes. great for general case of presentation nerves, too. If that isn't your style, you could always just take a moment to pause and say, "calm down, this is not the end of the world". (Especially if your a decent student like so many /.-ers. Ü )

  36. mod parent up (n/t) by Johnny+Doughnuts · · Score: 1

    Cat doesn't have my tongue, /.

  37. Never had a panic attack by caffiend666 · · Score: 1

    I've never had a panic attack; I just suffer from anxiety. Strange how some of my best moments turn into anxious nightmares really fast. When I start getting anxious about tests or work, I sit back and think about it from this perspective. If I can list how and why I got questions wrong, or why I can't figure out a question, I realize I'm probably doing better than the other students. Knowing where you are getting behind, is better than people who never really realize they are behind. Once I realize I've probably set the curve, I relax and take the rest of the period to check and do what I can. Thinking to myself that I know what is going on, makes some of the best moments of my life. Especially when they let me relax on some of the best days of my life. You could laugh and think that the panic is just a sign you are getting warmed up. Those tests do matter, but in the end you will not remember most of them, even a few months from now. Doing the best you can and the best of anyone around you, should be an awesome feeling. If it is not a great feeling, pretend it is one and you'll fool yourself pretty quickly. YMMV

    --
    Here's to losing my Karma Bonus again....
  38. Think of it as good training.... by HotNeedleOfInquiry · · Score: 1

    Someday you'll be in the real world and you'll get the call that your mission-critical project that just deployed crashed/wedged/can't restore it's database. Someone is loosing thousands of dollars an hour and you have to jump on a plane and fix it in the middle of the night. On that plane flight, you'll realize that the exam wasn't such a big deal after all, and you'll handle the current problem OK as well. Just suck it up and do it. That's what we all have to do...

    --
    "Eve of Destruction", it's not just for old hippies anymore...
  39. better living through chemistry! by one-eye-johnson · · Score: 1
    1. Re:better living through chemistry! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Beta blockers are junk. I tried some to calm my nerves from severe stress (hearth beatings, back pains, stomach pains, ...). They work just a little, but they are addictive, in that if you stop, it comes back worse :/

      I discovered the ultimate "beta-blocker" all on my own (thanks to the internet): brain control and breathing exercises. Doesn't even take me more than a minute now to calm my body and get rid of all stress and panic. The brain is much more capable of removing stress and panic than anything else. Severe stress and panic attacks are a thing of the past for me now. You need to know how to control your brain, as any other bodypart.

      You can even use the panic attack in you advantage! Well, not the panic part, but the "fight or flight" relex. It gets your body into shape at once, with adrenaline and painkillers. This can actually help you in sports, if you don't need your brain, but just all the (dumb) power your body has to offer.

  40. My experience by LihTox · · Score: 1

    I have suffered from panic attacks in the past, including a week-long low-grade panic during a trip to North Carolina early in my post-doc. It has helped to me to learn as much about panic as I could. I like to think of them as being like a mental cramp, particularly a cramp in a muscle which you can't stretch (I get cramps under my jaw, for instance): there's nothing you can do to stop the cramp, but it won't do any permanent damage, so all you can do is ride it out. Same with panic: you can't fight it, you just have to ride it out. (This article may be helpful too.)

    Although I am still an anxious person by nature, I haven't had a panic attack in a couple of years, and I've been off all anti-anxiety medication for the past year. It's not easy, but learning to treat the panic attack like a mere inconvenience is the best way to get over them. There are many techniques which can help you do that, which I won't go into here. If you're of a scientific bent, you might try analyzing the panic attack as an eyewitness in the name of science ("Fascinating, my heart rate seems to have increased...."). A good therapist can help you learn appropriate coping strategies. If you find yourself prone to frequent panic attacks, then a short-term anti-anxiety medication like Xanax can be a huge relief while you develop said coping strategies; said medication is meant for use as needed (like an aspirin, although more addictive) rather than for long-term or daily use.

    And, while panic attacks don't have to make sense, it might be a good idea to think about whether there are any big stresses in your life which you may be bottling up. Something to do with databases, maybe? (Maybe you're worried about the U.S. government storing information about you, or the insecurity of credit card numbers in corporations' databases, or something. :)

    1. Re:My Experience by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      I recently started taking beta blockers and experienced an almost complete disappearance of all panic symptoms. Beta blockers work by limiting the heart's ability to respond to adrenalin, preventing the big andrenalin "kick" that starts a panic attack. They have worked very well for me. And they don't impair my cognitive ability at all. Talk to your doctor first, of course.
      No no no, been there, done that. You just try to take away the symptoms, but that's not good enough. You have no idea how much adrenaline and other stuff a healthy body can pump into your bloodstream. While beta blocks did work a little for me, I got almost addicted to them. Couldn't get off them without severe stress symptoms, and there wasn't even any reason for stress anymore.

      Unfortunately, I am still stuck with all of the learned avoidance behaviors of the last 8 years, so while I don't have panic attacks any more my life is still negatively impacted. Cognitive therapy has been very helpful in this regard. My greatest regret is not dealing with this immediately. Panic/Anxiety is a problem that can grow if left untreated, which is sad because it is usually very treatable.
      My solution was simple: philosophy, meditation, breathing exercises. I see the big picture now, I've taken a completely different position on life itself. My brain doesn't panic that easily anymore, and if it does, I can get myself in a perfect calm and relaxed state in less than a minute. No silly exam can bother me, when I see the big picture. Learn to use your brain as any other organ, controlled breathing, meditation and even simple mantras can influence your brain, and get you into another "state". Observe your brain when you're panicing, bored, horny, exited, happy, relaxed... You'll see that these "states" have a function, and CAN be controlled, if you want it. This is part of knowing yourself. You have to gain independance. If you're curious enough, you'll start digging deeper, and raise "the big questions of life". I lost the last shred of catholic fear indoctrination, and am a free man now. You'll come to you own conclusions, whatever they are, and what they are doesn't matter, as long as they are yours.

      So in short: Seek yourself and seek enlightement.
  41. Fear is the mindkiller by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just say to yourself:
    "I will not fear
    Fear is the mindkiller,
    Fear is the little death
    That brings total Oblivion
    I will permit my fear to pass
    Over me and through me
    And where it has gone
    I will turn the inner eye
    Nothing will be there
    Only I will remain."

    Repeat several times.

  42. Keep Your Routine by omgwtfbbqn00b · · Score: 1

    I tend to get very stressed before tests and especially finals (though I'm only a high school sophomore/junior next year so take this for what it's worth). I find that if I try to do anything special before the exam it makes me feel stressed because I'm treating the exam as a Big Deal. If I don't vary my routine and just show up for the exam like it were any other class, I'm calm and not about to rip my hair out. This has served me well, though obviously YMMV and these other posters definitely know what they're talking about better than I do.

  43. panic attack is a fight-or-flight phenomena by nido · · Score: 1

    Whenever a situation is interpreted as threatening in some manner, the body tends to go into a fight-or-flight response. So-named because it (the body) gets ready to fight or run away. Or freeze. What happens is the blood that used to be flowing to all parts of your brain retreats to the "reptilian brain" at the base, and to the arms & legs.

    To draw the blood back into your forebrain, you can take the pads of your index and middle fingers and place them gently between your eyebrows and hairline. After a bit you'll feel a steady thump-thump-thump. When you have proper blood flow in your grey matter, everything just works better.

    When I first started doing this particular exercise, it took quite a while at times to find the pulse. But now it's almost instantaneous. I guess I've re-trained my body to keep its thinking skills whenever a stressful situation occurs.

    --
    Learn the rules so you know how to break them properly.
    www.teslabox.com
  44. I had ONE panic attack by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My apologies for being a bit cryptic, and posting AC. Still, this may be useful.

    I was in an uncomfortable situation, and in possible real danger, and the terror struck. TERROR, you don't know what it means until you feel it. Anyway, I realized the feeling was all in my head (and adrenal glands) and went someplace safer (Burger King, actually, terrified by the cashier, who I assumed could see my fear), and I ACTED NORMAL. Knowing that the panic was not needed to assure my survival, I calmed down after a while and went home. I did NOT get into the feedback loop of being afraid of being afraid. And it never happened again. Not even in extremely life-threatening situations I later found myself in.

    To sum up - it's NOT useful to panic, unless it makes you run away from the lions. When you have an attack, THINK - "Hmm, I'm feeling quite terrified. I'm going to ignore it. Now, what's the mask on a /16?"

  45. Go to student health center by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Go to your student health center and discuss your situation with the staff. Get an appointment with both a physician (MD) and a psychologist (PhD), and see if medications or therapy would work best for you--this is a decision you have to make, so participate in it! Most of all, ignore most of the advise given in this forum, since you should seek the advise of a professional.

  46. I totally disagree... by PsychoSkorp · · Score: 1

    Ideally, each tip makes sense. The problem is that most students are not able to spend that much time preparing for that one exam. Most of my fellow students are also concerned with the research paper that is due the day before, and the presentation that they have to give later that afternoon, etc. Finals week, in my experience, is a blur of studying, writing, preparing, and meeting deadlines. If you haven't made a conscientious effort to study, keep up on homework, and do what you can to complete a significant portion of your final projects before finals week, you are doomed anyways. The reality of college is that you are going to be scrambling to finish everything that is assigned and get that last bit of studying in before your exams. This very often involves caffeine consumption and sleep loss. If it was just one exam, and you had nothing else to worry about, sure, you could plan a few days around it. A water fast would be lovely. Sleep the day away before the exam. I do believe that Tylenol PM would make the average student a little groggy in the morning, more than OJ could counteract. In fact, there is the additional risk of sleeping through the alarm clock.

  47. Stress, Distress and Eustress by DynaSoar · · Score: 1

    Stress is the body's reaction to environmental pressure. It causes various physiological responses. In and of themselves, these are neutral. The mind interperates those responses, particularly if it is primed to react a certain way. If it interperates them negatively, you end up in distress. If, instead, you interperate the response as a motivating factor, ie. a positive force, that's called eustress. Most people never learn they have a measure of control over how they experience stress. Doing so can not only solve/prevent the sort of experience you had, but can provide you with a way to handle things even better than your usual competent fashion.

    The guy who came up with the idea of stress -> eustress/distess is Hans Selye. Look him up on Wiki and such. He wrote a whole book about it, but like many such concepts it's doesn't take a book's worth of information to grasp it.

    I know about this stuff because I'm a psychologist. I know it works because I have generalized anxiety disorder, and have frequent panic attacks. When I don't have anything to aim it at, I have to take anxiolytic meds. When I can aim it something, I can do lots of stuff really, really well, and quickly.

    Learning how to do this requires (1) learning early detection of oncoming stress, and (2) practice interperating it as a motivator (ie. excietment, focus, flow, etc.). The former depends on you learning what your specific reactions are. The latter takes practice at imposing your will on your thinking; imagery and actively focusing your attention on that imagery are key.

    Besides all that stuff, there's also a fact that few people ever learn: how you feel and how you're doing are not the same thing. Most people go through life gauging how they're doing by how they feel, and act accordingly. When you understand that you can feel like shit and still do well, then you can learn to do well despite how you may feel at the time. This is all just a matter of taking responsibility for how you feel and act. A lot of people don't care for that level of responsibility. They'd rather blame external factors. Hey, it's a choice.

    --
    "I may be synthetic, but I'm not stupid." -- Bishop 341-B
  48. Re:If you study in Sydney, Aus by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm curious to know why this was marked as a troll. Offtopic maybe, but I wasn't joking. I'm pretty sure this girl studies at UNSW in Sydney.

  49. Caffeine is bad, but take meds?? by PsychoSkorp · · Score: 0, Troll

    Seems to be the general response in this forum. I am no great advocate of caffeine, however, I am less of an advocate of popping any sort of pill to "get through the hardships of life." We live in a pharmeceutical drug-culture in which any of our problems can be easily diagnosed and rectified by a proper, legal, pill. IMO this is total BS, and if you can't deal with what you are doing, and where you are, then maybe it is a sign that you aren't where you should be. Taking a pill to dull that realization won't help you in the long run.

  50. Just ignore it by JDisk · · Score: 1

    Just to be a bit contrarian to most of the posts: If this was the fist time and you normally have no problems with exams, just ignore it. It might not happen again.
    I have had this happen once, in a quite unimportant test. Panic and total blackout. I managed to literally write my name and like five words in a 3 hour test. Afterwards, I talked with several teachers and my parents (both teach as well). They all agreed: it happens, but normally only once. So I tried to relax, ignore the F on that test and just go on.
    Well, it worked. For years afterwards (up to and including my PhD defence), I would worry a bit about it happening again, but it never did.

    If the attack happens again, I would definitely start looking for professional help, but up to then, just relax. Worrying too much, doing lots of research and trying to remember all sort of tricks might just increase your anxiety.

  51. for me by joe+155 · · Score: 1

    I'm sorry for you; I've only ever had two panic attacks but I know that they are not very nice; the first time I was lucky enough to be in hospital so the hyper-ventialating didn't cause me to pass out, the second time I was on my own and blacked out (guess I was lucky to not have any serious injury).

    I've recently finished my second year of my degree but I had a little worry issues when I was doing my exams... If I tell you how I went about doing it you can just do the opposite... I started revising on the day of the exam (which makes you even more nervous then the exam starts at 9.30am) - this is a bad idea. Ideally you would know everything you feel you need to know the night before and then in the morning (after a good nights sleep) you would wake up and read over your condensed notes once and get on your way with enough time to not have to worry about being late.

    I hadn't been eating 3 meals a day for a few weeks... this was causing me very bad stomach aches and feelings of sickness, which makes everything worse... 3 meals a day is very important - you might feel like dinner (by that I mean the midday meal) isn't important but if you keep missing it you'll really feel it.

    Thirdly, and maybe most importantly, when you get in make a plan of the questions you are going to answer or jot down main points you think you might forgett (I don't know how your exam is structured, mine is 4 questions in 3 hours so I can do this easily... if you have a lot it might not be feasable.

    Anyway, just some advice... someone should learn from my example because god knows I won't...

    --
    *''I can't believe it's not a hyperlink.''
  52. Coming from someone who has never had one... by vga_init · · Score: 1

    Quick disclaimer: I've never had a panic attack while awake. I've suffered several night terrors in my adolesance, which I consider to be like panic attacks while you're sleeping (this could be a flawed analogy, but hey--I'm not a professional. And it damn sure feels like how I make it sound.).

    Lenghty disclaimer: I'm not a good student. I haven't been for several years. My grades faltered in high school but were perfectly decent in hindsight. In college my grades polarized; some classes were easy A's while others were dead failures. I don't like doing work that I don't want to do; if a subject interests me, I'll devour it. If it doesn't, I lack the discipline to study. I'm aware that I have a problem, but I haven't gotten over it yet.

    Additional warning: This post is a lenghty reiteration of the "stop caring" post.

    That being said, I've been accused of being an intelligent person. I excelled in my studies up until the point where I couldn't just ace everything without trying. In some ways, my gifts might have caused me to become lazy and complacent, something I regret. The classmates I knew who got the best grades were also noticeably less intelligent than a lot of people I knew who were getting less done.

    Now, it seems to me that you are a good student. I like that. However, from my own limited perspective, this little tidbit may lend some insight into the reason why you've had a panic attack. You have discipline, you are a good worker, and naturally you are under a lot of stress.

    Your work ethic demands that you get things done. If you are overwhelmed or feel like you can't do something, the panic attack is the ultimate consequence that you've been fighting to avoid by doing your studies. The fact that you have never had one before suggests to me that you've done a great job of keeping yourself in the groove. You can't stay in it all the time--it happens.

    What most people on Slashdot are suggesting is that you take some measures to get yourself back into the groove. I guess healthy people do this, but is that really going to get to the heart of the problem? It sounds like you need an attitude change.

    Never in my life have I had trouble taking exams. I just take them. Lots of people preoccupy themselves with things that fall outside the scope of the exam itself. They can't get out of their head how good they'll do on the exam. Some people count questions they don't know and try to figure out their grade before they even turn the damn thing in. Some people think about what will happen if they fail, or how great they'll feel when they're done, or mommy and daddy--hell, I have no idea. Whatever it is you're thinking about, STOP. The piece of paper in front of you is now your world. First you read it, then you write (or mark something). That's some basic I/O there. If you continue to feel anxiety while engaging in this behavior, you're not doing it correctly.

    Yeah, we all want to be like linux--it's true. Don't get me wrong--linux is great, but now you've got to be DOS. You are DOS, and the exam is your dot ee ex ee. Comprende? Sorry, I'm tired.

    Also, while you're at it, pick up the Bhagavad Gita. Read it; live by it.

    Remember that worrying reduces your performance. So does worrying about worrying. And worrying about not worrying. Don't worry; just forget about it. Either you can do the exam, or you can't. If you can't, at least find ways to amuse yourself. I've written in a lot of jokes into exams I've done poorly on. You may have just failed, but at least you'll brighten your day and the day of whoever grades it. Do the world a favor!

    Don't second guess yourself. Just do it. Think of Master Yoda in a Nike commercial.

    Also, don't overburden yourself. You might be doing that too.

    Peace.

    1. Re:Coming from someone who has never had one... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow.

      That was the most unfocused, incoherent, rambling monologue that I've read on /. in a long time--perhaps ever.

      I had quite a list of things to say about it, including some rather unflattering inferences about your life, personality, and future. However, I deleted them all because they came off as mean-spirited. Nonetheless, I believe you really need to apply some self-discipline to your life, starting with your thoughts and your speech. Also, step away from pop culture--it's mind candy that will rot your brain, if you don't keep it in check.

  53. Re:A knew a lot of guys like you at Uni by SamNmaX · · Score: 1

    I don't think it is fair to assume that he is a bad programmer because he tries to get good grades and got very nervous during a test.

  54. Re:A knew a lot of guys like you at Uni by QuantumG · · Score: 1

    I didn't suggest he was. I said that the people who don't need to try end up being the best programmers. Those who are always working their hardest end up as go-getter managers who don't need to code.

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    How we know is more important than what we know.
  55. surprised !!!! by viskiush · · Score: 1

    surprised that this happens in the west too. so far i used to think exam day cying and anxiety were all an indian phenomena and that there was very little pressure on the students in the west. over here suicides coz of low marks are everyday sights.

  56. Be happy you're not in China. by Ash-Fox · · Score: 1

    You can only take the Chinese university entrance examinations. If you fail them. That's it (knowledge obtained from other Slashdot articles).

    --
    Change is certain; progress is not obligatory.
  57. Or realize it's always fixable... by vistic · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Well you can always adopt the attitude of "well, i'll die someday and this test won't matter in the long run, the world will forget about me, and then the world itself will end someday... in the grand scheme of things i am not that important, let alone this stupid test..."

    Ok maybe that's not good advice...

    But seriously... I was a Physics major... couldn't handle it and dropped out. I was working full time and slowly downgraded my plans for my future. I was resigning myself to be content with mediocre jobs and low pay, and decided that friends were what would really make me happy.

    But then I snapped out of it and realized I was settling for less. I went back, switched to Computer Science and it's all been good. I even had some REALLY bad semesters, but the thing is that I know now that (at least academically, if not in other areas of life such as love...) no matter how bad you screw things up, you can always recover from it, if you're willing to put in some extra work and get determined.

    So when you're doing an exam... just remember that if you do bad, it probably isn't determining your entire grade for the class (if you're doing college in the USA), and even if you do bad in the class you can probably retake it... or take a minor hit in your GPA and make up for the loss with another class you do well in.

    I know failure can seem daunting and horrible. But some people like me who have done it enough times (failed at things in life) know that it's not the end of the world, and you might end up learning something from it, or get to know yourself better... so it's not a total loss. It's life experience.

    It's hard to explain this to people who only get A's their entire life and SERIOUSLY think they're life will end if they get a B. In the end, you're better off being kind to yourself.

    1. Re:Or realize it's always fixable... by Glonoinha · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Quite a few of the responses here are focusing on a particular symptom (the panic attack during the exam) and overlooking the context of the issue (the entire semester.)
      Perhaps it isn't that he is being too hard on himself, but that he isn't being hard enough on himself (but doing it constructively.)

      In the military there is a saying : "Train hard, fight easy."

      What this means is - if you can condition yourself via repeated very difficult exercises to be able to operate and function in those difficult situations, you will be able to function under pressure. If your training (studying) is even more difficult than the situation you will encounter when it counts (battle, or the exam) then your exam will be easier (less stress, less pressure, easier questions) than you have been experiencing during training (studying) and you will breeze through it.

      When I was a competitive swimmer (years ago) the longest race I ever swam was 200 meters - on competition day I might even swim less than that for the entire day : a 100m and a 50m.
      But every day during practice I would swim upwards of 3200m over the course of an hour. The coach would yell at us, push us harder, have us swim laps with only our legs (arms behind our backs), have us hold folding chairs over our heads in the deep end while we used only our legs to keep our head, arms, shoulders (and the chairs) out of the water for ten minutes at a time. After a month or two of high intensity training, race day was something we looked forward to - not only to compete, but because it was the easiest day of the swim season.

      Same thing with military guys. The guys that are calm and can function reliably when someone is shooting at them - they are calm because the ONLY thing they have to deal with is someone shooting at them. During training someone was shooting at them, a gunny was screaming in their face, they were doing push-ups / sit-ups until they puked, they were carrying around telephone poles as a team through pounding surf in the ocean, they were living on three hours or less of sleep per night for weeks at a time, and they were doing it all while eating grubs and worms and whatever crap the can find or kill or catch with no way to prepare it (under nourished.) Compared to how they trained, fighting on the battlefield is a cake-walk.

      Effective studying in college isn't reading a book by yourself in the quiet library until your eyes glaze over.
      Effective studying is creating an environment where you are mentally challenged by forcing yourself to demonstrate an understanding - a MASTERY of the material. Sit round robin with a few other students from class and go through the chapter, subject by subject, and have each person be the 'target' - the others ask him a question on the topic and he has to answer it, demonstrate his knowledge on the subject. Do not allow anyone to pass (skip a question,) force him to read the material until he understands it and can explain it to the satisfaction to the others. Let the questions get harder and harder, and pile on the peer pressure. Let the only response to 'I don't know' be 'well motherfucker you better figure it out now with the book in your hands and people here to help you learn it, because it is going to be on the exam.' The harder you are on each other during those study sessions, the easier the exam will be - for two reasons : during the exam it is quiet time without your peers putting the pressure on you (just you and the pencil and the paper), and also because you will have already worked through the thought processes in order to come up with the correct answers, not only for the questions you had to answer but for all the questions all the others had to answer - in watching them get it right or wrong, you will have seen several different perspectives and approaches on the problem, learning not only the correct answer, but the correct approach to get the answer. In doing so, you will have developed a mastery of the material and it will be obvious when you exhibit that mastery

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    2. Re:Or realize it's always fixable... by Fengpost · · Score: 1

      I totally agree with the parent here. By going well beyond expected performance in training, you will perform well in the crux situation.

      I would like add more thing, immerse yourself with the task at hand. Focus yourself on the present moment of doing the particular question, block everything out, even the fact that it is an exam. I know it sounds a zen kind of thing, but it works with martial artist, mountaineers and others. Oh, just to be sure you do not loose the track of time.

      Good luck.

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  58. Sip from your water bottle! by grolschie · · Score: 1

    A few years ago I got into my first computer science exam, panicked and couldn't even write my own name, let alone answer all the easy questions. Never having had a panic attack before, I didn't know what was going on. But I knew that if I left the room, I'd fail. So basically I decided to sit, face straight ahead and do NOTHING but look into space and sip from my water bottle. About 1/2 an hour later, I was calm enough to at least try to look at the questions and maybe give them a go - nothing to lose. I could've easily answered them in other circumstances, but my head was so cloudy that it was real slow going. Thinking through the most simple sentences was a major struggle. Had to read the most simple questions over and over. I kept sipping though. I got through much of the exam paper and passed.

  59. Break it down by Alicat1194 · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Another post mentioned the 'fight or flight' response that is triggered during panic attacks. I've been experiencing panic attacks since the 2nd grade (hereditary, thanks Dad!), and have found that once I have an 'exit strategy' of sorts worked out, it helps to calm everything down.

    Basically, assuming you can't head the attack off at the pass, once it's in full swing, just tell yourself '5 more minutes (or questions), and then I'll leave'. Once the five minutes is up, reassess and see if you can hack another 5, and so on.

    (It can also help if you make sure you sit in a seat with decent airflow around it. The fresh air helps to get enough oxygen where it's needed, which makes you feel a lot better)

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  60. Beta blockers by MMC+Monster · · Score: 1

    A beta blocker (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beta_blocker) should help. Take one a couple hours before the exam. I should warn you to try one out on a day when you are not doing anything, first, to make sure you can tolerate the dose you get. Also, while people on chronic beta blockers can drive and operate heavy machinery, you probably shouldn't be driving around for a few hours after taking one if you only take them sporadically.

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  61. My experience by spurdy · · Score: 1

    I've dealt with panic attacks in different situations, the most typical being singing on stage in front of hundreds of people. In my situation, I found that the attack begins with a wave of fear shortly after I begin doing the thing I fear. Then, I focus on the fear which leads me to worry that it will get worse, which of course it does, and it feeds on itself until it gets totally out of control.

    I learned that beforehand, I need to do some anxiety management, like focusing on breathing, conscious relaxation of muscle groups, etc. A therapist can help you with these excercises. They don't eliminate the anxiety, but they do bring the level down "a notch". Don't believe that you can eliminate the anxiety, at least overnight, but focus on "management" as the key.

    Then, when I get on stage, I remind myself that I will probably feel a wave of fear and that when I do, (1) it's perfectly normal, (2) it's just a feeling that will pass. That way, I'm not caught off guard when/if it does come.

    If it happens, I focus on my breathing (some researchers believe that it's lack of oxygen that sets the whole thing in motion in the first place), and I try to "lose myself" in the music. That gives my mind something else to focus on besides my panicky feelings.

    Since I started doing this I've not had any panic attacks. But I realize that I probably will at some point in the future, and that when I do, I'll just manage it as best I can, and remember that even if I fall off the stage due to panic, it's not the end of the world.

    I wish you luck in dealing with your panic attacks. Just remember, there are lots of people who deal with them--don't think there's anything wrong with you.

  62. Register with Disability Services by vorpal22 · · Score: 1

    I'm assuming that you're a university student? If so, your school likely has a service for people with physical, mental, and emotional disabilities. Get registered with them, and they'll provide you with accomodations that will remove a lot of the stress of taking exams and help you in case you have another panic attack.

    Seriously, the exact same thing happened to me during a PhD Topology midterm last November. I went in having studied hard to what was likely to be an easy exam. For some reason, I panicked, and an hour later all I'd done is begun each question about five times over without making any progress. I bombed the exam, which was something that had never happened to me before. Someone recommended I check out disability services. I was registered with them a few weeks later and granted a private room with extra time (in the case of another panic attack) to reduce my exam anxiety, and it worked brilliantly. At least at my school, the fact that you are registered with them is not broadcast, either: while some of your professors may discover that you are, you'd be surprised at how many people need special accomodations, and it'll certainly never appear on your transcripts.

    If you think that it would benefit you, I can't recommend it enough.

    As for general panic suggestions, the thing to remember about panic attacks is that they cannot physically harm you in any significant way, and that they cannot last more than about 30 mins. The buildup and the aftereffects may make them seem considerably longer, but your body can only physically maintain extremely elevated levels of anxiety for short amounts of time. If panic attacks become a problem for you in the future, these are very important things to keep in mind.

    Best of luck!

  63. Just Relax by Braedley · · Score: 1
    From the sounds of it, you felt fairly confident going into this exam, and from my experience, that means your panic attack was triggered by one of two things: you were thrown a curveball halfway through the paper, or you had built up stress from previous exams, and this was just the straw that broke the camels back.

    If the first posibility is the case, then there's not much you can do about it except try to keep it from getting to you. If on the other hand the second posibility is what caused your panic attack, there are loads of thing you can do to prevent it from happening again. Most importantly, I think, is that you be relaxed before, during, and after each exam. It's important that we get a little stress now and again, but too much is damaging to our health. The not caring approach mentioned earlier is very good for right after the exam. I, however, prefer to spend time with frineds after an exam, and if the exam schedule permits, throwing back a couple of cold ones. This is especially true if I want to just forget those three hours of my life so that they can't bother me at my next exam. For you, do anything that you know relieves stress for you. Breathing deeply, working out, whatching tv, whatever works for you.

  64. Don't Care? by ggKimmieGal · · Score: 1

    I see a lot of comments out there about no caring and to use some kind of substance to help you before a test. I think people tend to forget what school is lie after they are done. Unfortunately, school is important when you are there.

    If this is the first time this has ever happened to you, calm down. Longer tests are far more stressful than a two hour test. I panicked on a formal methods test that took me about four hours. I knew the information. I had studied just as I always do. It was just after four hours I was tired and stressed. After that, I went back to my dorm and took a nap. I felt much better. Since this is the first time it has ever happened, do not worry about it. Unless you set up some kind of mental fixation, it probably will not ever happen again.

    The best thing you can do is get plenty of sleep. Do not cram the morning of the test. Sleep in. You'll feel great when you go in to take the test.

  65. Counselling/Health Services by gregbaker · · Score: 1

    Your University will almost certainly hve some kind of Heath/Counselling services on-campus. Go and talk to them.

    Seriously. I have tried to convice a lot of students to do so--those that do at least end up taking some positive steps. Many have an "I'm not crazy" reaction to the idea which is unfortunate. You aren't crazy, but they can help in ways that others cannot.

    These people spend their days dealing with students and related problems--they should have something useful to say. I generally advise students to go to them over outside counsellors because of their expertise and narrower focus.

    Your CS department or University may have academic advisors who can be of some help too. Particularly if they are full-time advisors (as opposed to faculty members who advise as part of their duties).

  66. Re:Test Preparation -- The geek way by MADnificent · · Score: 1

    I do stress much more for my exams, but the geek way does work too! My planning:

    • During the year, I try to see how much I have to study for a course.
    • 3 weeks before the exams begin, start to stress like a nutcase.
    • Study rather much during those weeks to get the rhythm up.
    • Third day before the exam, I start stressing... Mostly I just stress, trying to get ready for three days of utter madness.
    • Second day before the exam, start thinking "This is impossible"
    • Last day know for sure that it is impossible.
    • During this extreme stress I study during the night and try sleep for 3-5 hours.
    • Get up one hour before the exam, take a quick look at your course

    You will obviously be totally fucked up! There is no way to stress anymore, your body doesn't even really know where it is. See the questions, answer what you can (which is pretty fair, 'cause your body has no reason at all to think about anything else).

    For one or the other reason, I think you might not get high grades anymore ;-) But the exam really feels like one big trip, so you won't be stressing...

  67. You don't have a disease or disorder... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You got stressed out. You let it get to you. Don't fall into this BS trap of "Oh, I have a disorder!" That's just an excuse people use to avoid taking responsibility for themselves.

    I know it's all PC to be "feel good" and talk about chemical imbalances and other such BS; did you know that the only way to actually clinically diagnose a chemical disorder is to cut open the brain of a dead person? Any doctor who tells you different is a liar, as it's all based on what you say you feel like and their assumptions. There is no way to actually confirm the diagnoses it until you are dead, so anyone that tells you that is your problem and doesn't tell you it's an assumption is a bad doctor - run away. People actually think you can "test" for these sorts of things with urine or blood when the fact is all they can do is ask loaded questions like, "Do you ever feel stressed out at work?"

    Pressure is a bitch. Just like not everyone is built physically to be a marathon runner, not everyone is able to handle the same amount of stress. That's why not everyone can be a CEO or a doctor or any other high-pressure profession.

    "Panic attack", "meltdowns", and the like are usually really people who just try to take on too much and can't handle it. Learn your limitations, and don't let a doctor medicate you out of them. A test is SUPPOSED to increase your anxiety. That's the point. If you freaked out because you had to decide between a cheeseburger and a hot dog at a BBQ then you've got a problem that may require medication; otherwise, you just need to deal with it.

    So chin up, stop whining, and move on with life. Unless you want to become one of those poor, medicated schlubs who walk around thinking that all their problems in life are because of "chemical imbalances" and without pills they can't handle it. Just like people who are drunks and say, "I can't help it! It's a DISEASE!" as an excuse for their problems, it's a dis-service to those who actually do have medical issues that threaten their lives.

    Remember, it's all in your mind...and despite what some weak people may say, YOU CAN CONTROL IT, unless you are one of the tiny percentage of humans who really is mentally insane (serial killers and the like).

  68. Exercise! by MBCook · · Score: 1

    I don't get panic attacks, but here is the advice that I've heard and I think it makes quite a bit of sense.

    Exercise. Get your heart REALLY GOING.

    Now this is designed for people who get panic attacks more regularly, so I don't know how much it will help you, but I think it could. The idea here is that when you have a panic attack your heart starts racing and you start feeling like you're going to die from it because it can be a terrifying thing. So by exercising and really getting your heart going on a regular basis, you experience this more often. Now I'll warn you this will probably be uncomfortable or scary at first because you'll immediatly equate it with another panic attack. You'll have to push through that.

    By doing this, you learn what it feels like when your heart is really racing and that it's not such a scary thing. This way the next time you have a panic attack (if you do) instead of telling yourself "I'll be OK" and feeling like you're going to die or have a heart attackc, you'll be telling yourself "I'll be OK, this isn't so bad, my heart is just racing." The more panic attacks you have after you try this and it works, the better they are supposed to be. Since you get through one, then another, then another you learn they are not so bad and it gets easier and easier to deal with them. You may end up not having them, or they may simply be very easy (relativly) to deal with so they no longer interfere with what you're doing.

    I hope this works for you. I've heard the advice numerous times as well and people who have used it saying it works. Hopefully you'll never need it (isolated incedent), but here it is.

    And of course, exercise is always good for you too.

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  69. How I coped by buk110 · · Score: 1

    Nothing helped take the edge off before a test better than a shot of whiskey and a smoke....

  70. Gee thanks by HalAtWork · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Get a girlfriend (or boyfriend depending on your preferance), drink some beers, wine or whatever you like and enjoy college, this is your LAST chance. The real world is a lot tougher and a lot less fun until you become a billionare or die :)

    My school teachers had always been telling students that elementary school is easy compared to junior/high school and that we had better enjoy it while we can because it was about to get a lot tougher. So I started dreading high school. Then in high school they started saying the same thing about college, and that college was as close as the real world could get in school, and that we had better work hard to get into the right one and do the right thing because our life depends on it, otherwise we'll be working at gas stations. So I started dreading college. Then in college they stopped holding our hand or putting guns to our heads to come to school and do assignments, so since I dreaded college and its assignments so much, to stop being stressed out I simply didn't pay attention to it because I couldn't handle the dread and pressure. Then I dropped out of college. Saying shit like "It's your last chance, it'll get a lot tougher!" is not going to make someone do something better, it'll simply impede them like it did me. Now I'm having a hell of a time.

  71. Drugs and talk therapy. by crmartin · · Score: 1

    Okay, first off, the person who said "just stop caring" and all the people who modded him up are idiots.

    Panic and Anxiety disoreders are not a joke. They are a poorly understood physiological problem that is (as you discovered) way unpleasant.

    I'm guessing the special process includes a medical and/or psychiatric examination, but if not, hie thyself off to a doctor.

    Don't associate it with the test --- it's not actually all that highly correlated with stress. I had a panic attack, my first one, in church during a boring sermon.

    There's a good page on panic attacks at Web MD.

  72. Recognize Your Performance by bryanporter · · Score: 1

    Anxiety is an interesting beast. To a point, anxiety actually increases performance; beyond a certain point, anxiety dramatically reduces performance. Personally, I've always had problems with anxiety during tests; the most effective means I've found to combat it is to recognize when I'm beginning to lose control of my anxiety level. When I see that begin to happen, I take steps to calm myself down; I repeat to myself that I'm well prepared for the material at hand, that I've studied an appropriate amount, and that should I fail in this endeavor it is not for lack of preparation.

    Anxiety is actually a pretty interesting topic; I've read articles in the past where they studied the anxiety levels of NASCAR racers and fighter pilots, and found that the level of anxiety which reduces performance in those peoples is radically and unexplainably high; essentially, they are neurologically wired to cope with high-stress environments. Not everyone is; some people find ways to adjust to high-stress environments, and others don't. Invariably, the exact method that works for you will be a personal one.

  73. I also wrote databases today! by drac0n1z · · Score: 1

    Am in South-Africa and I wrote databases today, Oracle sql ect.. I didnt study! Will pass on a participation mark which is sky high.

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  74. My Experience by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've had panic/anxiety disorder for the last 8 years.

    "Stop caring" is a stupid, flip answer. This entire thread is filled with bad responses. Panic disorder is a real problem, and has real, proven solutions.

    I recently started taking beta blockers and experienced an almost complete disappearance of all panic symptoms. Beta blockers work by limiting the heart's ability to respond to adrenalin, preventing the big andrenalin "kick" that starts a panic attack. They have worked very well for me. And they don't impair my cognitive ability at all. Talk to your doctor first, of course.

    Unfortunately, I am still stuck with all of the learned avoidance behaviors of the last 8 years, so while I don't have panic attacks any more my life is still negatively impacted. Cognitive therapy has been very helpful in this regard. My greatest regret is not dealing with this immediately. Panic/Anxiety is a problem that can grow if left untreated, which is sad because it is usually very treatable.

  75. A shot of vodka by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    30-40 minutes before the exam. It wont make you drunk or effect you that much (if you know the material) but it will loosen you up a bit.

    This is particularly useful for presentations also. Dont forget a breath mint though :)

  76. seek professional help by v1x · · Score: 1

    Many of the comments here seem helpful, but bear in mind that your situation may not be exactly the same as those of others in this forum; so what worked for others may not necessarily work for you. Besides, if you have been a consistently high-scoring student who has never faced such a problem before, there may be other things going on in your life that have nothing to do with the exam itself.

  77. Advice from a PA sufferer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Some good advice so far on the thread, I'll throw my own in the mix..

    Not that it makes me an authority on the matter, but I've had some really first class panic attacks. The first one sent me to the hospital (I walked there) thinking that I had a major blood sugar problem. My heart rate and blood pressure were both over 200, I felt like I was walking along a tightrope with insanity beneath and a strong wind blowing. When the nurse brought me in to sit me down my whole body was visibly palpitating like I'd just drank a thousand cups of coffee. The skinny on the situation, looking back at it all, was that I was in a boring job as a sysadmin that I knew was ending in six months so, being a young male, I decided I'd party for the remainder of tenure. Each night was a tour of the bars and each morning the hangover was treated with a few bong hits followed by a cup of coffee on an empty stomache. Off I went to work with the headphones cranking, thinking I was the coolest kid in town. It really should be no surprise that one day my physiology finally went bankrupt the way it did.

    You might be thinking, "what a loser, I've nothing to learn from this guy." but the truth is that regardless of how your first PA was triggered, the anxiety cycle is similar for everyone. It's great that you know what you're dealing with after your first attack. I spent weeks in an unbearable state of despair thinking that I'd done "permanent brain damage." I went to a psychiatrist for numerous sessions, read books on the matter, participated in online communities, and now, a couple years later, I feel like I'm finally comfortable back in my own skin.

    My advice:

    - The fear of another PA is often what kicks people into a vicious anxiety loop right after their first PA. The moment your heart rate ticks up in a stressful situation you think "oh no, here it is again" and sure enough your fear of the fear sets off a PA. Breaking that cycle is not easy and there has been some good advice so far. Learning to meditate is important as is making sure you're eating well (get rid of caffeine and sugary foods), getting enough protein, etc. Exercise goes a long way to stabilizing emotions and will make you feel comfortable with your body operating in a high gear. Once you learn to flow *with* the current of anxiety and accept that it is not dangerous to you then you will treat its arrival with more of a "blah, I have to hang out with this stupid thing for 5 minutes, then it will go" rather than seizing on it and thinking "anything but this!!!"

    - I was totally against pills for a long time thinking that I'd be popping them for the rest of my life or that it was a way of cheating that wouldn't address the real underlying issue. But the fact of the matter is that they're a useful tool which, used judiciously with other techniques, can help you get back on your feet. Xanax helped me deal with flying again (the thought of having a PA on a plane would keep me awake at night) and I use a tiny dose of Propranolol, a heart medication that blocks the effects of adrenaline, when I have to present or, as was the case recently, when I was interviewed by the news. Note that I *rarely* take the xanax and will probably graduate from the propranolol at some point but just knowing I have my little pharmacy in my wallet makes me feel better.

    - Keep a journal. Jot down how you felt that day, what you did, how you're feeling about tomorrow. Note your diet, sleeping pattern, etc.

    - I'm guessing if you're in school you're still quite young but take the time to reflect on your life and what sort of framework you've established for yourself on the inside. Do you feel you have to be the best at everything? Are you constantly gnawing away at where life will take you next? Sometimes anxiety and panic are the result of internal or external pressures that are not being handled correctly.

    - Finally, take it easy.. take time for yourself. You've been bruised and pampering yourself a little is in order.

    Good luck, you'll get through.

  78. Drop out of school? by themusicgod1 · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Mabye you should admit that you're not capable of thriving in a modern world and admit that you might just be stupid? I read through pretty much every thread posted and not one person has suggested that the guy might be a washout, deserving failure in life, and a cheap chinese bullet to the back of the head, or mabye just to be castrated and sent to work in a nike sweatshop in exchange for someone more deserving of the priviledge of an education?

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  79. Phobia, Phobophobia and dealing with it by Qbertino · · Score: 1

    I've suffered from extreme phobia attacks during a large portion of my teen ages. They are extremely nasty - I know what you are talking about. To all the ones not knowing: they are basically a horror trip without bad drugs. Not that I've ever taken drugs, but I can hardly imagine anything worse than these phobia attacks. I eventually managed to overcome them and now am basically phobia-free. Every once in a while - maybe once in a decade - they return and show a slight effect but since I know how to deal with them they go away quick.

    Here's the deal:
    1.) You say you are safe in the saddle in the field your studying in and are usually a high profile student. This indicates unconcious psychological stress that has been building unattended at the border to your subconcious and now, in a situation that maybe has changed only slightly for you, surface and rear their ugly head. Double check your biography. Maybe something happend recently, maybe you even just read an article or saw a news report that triggered existencial fear in you and now all of a sudden the sum of all fears (no pun intended) outweighs the self-confidence you've gotten so comfortable with. It sometimes is just that easy. For instance me: Conracts are running dry, no new on the horizon for the last 6 weeks, a good client/friend went broke and allthough it was all only a matter of time and I'm actually doing better than the most people around me I suddenly get the creepies. Check what's going on around you and on your inside and find that dark spot. That will be the first step.

    2.) We fear the unknow. It's allways that way. Learn to know the unknow which you fear. If your closing in on your degree and suddenly exams become a serious thing and you lose your cool and break: Practice doing exams! Maybe it really is the time for you to take a deeper insight into the mechanisims of academics and the tough thing they can be. There are countless ords who feel what you feel since the fifth grade. For you it's new. Use you skills and brains to take on the challenge. Some people deal with it by not doing exams and taking a job at McDonalds instead. Maybe you love what you do so much that you fear to lose it if you fail. Here's a secret for you: Academia, no matter how comfortable you felt with it up to now, doesn't care a flying f*ck about wether people love what they do or not. Take this from a guy who's programmed for the largest part of his life and gets weird looks when he applies for admittance at a university only because he doesn't have the german standard A-Levels. No matter how exorbitantly you fail, you'll *allways* be able to do what you love. 10 years from now no one will care how good or bad you passed your exams. Get through with them and do something productive if they're bugging you to much.

    3.) There is a science that deals with elementary fears of the unknown. It's called Philosophy. I recommend reading anything from Alan Watts. It was he that ended my phobias instantly. Carnegies "How to stop worrying and start living" is more of the simple kind but very good aswell. It's not one of the best selling books of the entire history of mankind without a reason. If you consider jumping the postive thinking revival hype thats flooding the upper class and academic US right now (so I've heard and read in a current article) I strongly suggest Marie 'Shakti' Gawains all-time classic "Creative Visualisation". It's dirt-cheap, a little more than 100 pages thick and contains everything you'll ever need to know about positive thinking. It's Shakti Gawain and Alan Watts that brought me through some psychologically very tough times.

    4.) Exercise, Performing Arts and Zen Buddisim or any mixture of those can help a great deal. They get you in touch with the spiritual world - ofter better and faster than the other solution: religion - and get your brain chemistry back in line. Join a chorus, do some Aikido (doing that myself, great thing that), join a local street-climbing/'urban-ninja'/parcour crew (that's currently the hippest I'd say) o

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  80. Don't go any further by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you can't handle the pressure of a single exam, don't go any further with your course studies. If you have a problem with a single exam, just wait until you're a professional.

  81. sex is helps also by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Getting laid helps a lot.

    Or if you prefer something less physical, talk to your parents, friends, or siblings. Support from those close to yourself helps relieve stress and calm your nerves.

  82. Don't cram, just take the exam by syukton · · Score: 1

    The purpose of an exam is to evaluate your abilities. Not just your abilities on one special day that you've prepared for, but your abilities overall, in general, on any given day. If you want to get a good picture of what your true skill set is, there is one thing that you absolutely need to not do: exam cram.

    I find that with not cramming comes a great deal less stress and anxiety. I view the exam as just another test, and I know that whatever I score on that test will be an indicator of my skill level on any given random tuesday. When I'm out in the real world, I'm not going to cram before a meeting, I'm either going to be on the ball or I'm not, and if I'm not then perhaps I should consider a new line of work. So if I'm not going to do anything special to prepare in the real world, why do anything special to prepare for the exam? This doesn't mean that you shouldn't study, but rather that you shouldn't study any more than you intend to study regularly for the rest of your mortal life.

    You can look at it this way though: if you put all your hopes and dreams into that one exam and you panic like a child when things don't go your way, how are you going to handle a rough business meeting? Maybe you'd be better-off as an artist...

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    Reinvent the wheel only at either a lower cost, greater effectiveness, or your own personal enrichment and satisfaction.
  83. Drugs by nurb432 · · Score: 1

    Just tell your doc you have panic attacks, and he will gladly give you something to calm you down.

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    ---- Booth was a patriot ----
  84. I've Been There by The+Slashdolt · · Score: 1

    I've read many of the threads already posted and this is not an uncommon occurrence. Lets just start with the fact that you are not crazy. Panic attacks are not that uncommon. There are many routes to take to solving this problem. My attacks were bad in college followed by a severe attack at my first job. I hate to tell you this, but you've got a battle with your mind on the horizon. After that first panic attack life is going to be hell for a while. Every situation triggers another attack. The fear of another attack brings on another attack. It's a viscious cycle. I am somewhat surprised by your early recognition, but so much the better for you. I spent years thinking I was brain damaged, retarded, insane, etc. Let me assure you that it is unlikely that you are any of these things. Let me also assure that these attacks will pass. For most people avoiding caffeine!, alcohol, and sugar in that order is enough to cure this problem. For me, the major culprit was caffeine. I did not completely give up caffeine, but I control it. I recognized its affects on me and limit myself to one cup of tea a day. The affects of the caffeine in tea are slower than they are with coffee. Recognize that you are different from your friends, not necessarily in a bad way, but you will be affected by substances differently than they will. Such is life.

    If you'd like a shoulder to lean on send me an email at logicalmind@<the name of googles email service> and I will get in touch with you.

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    mp3's are only for those with bad memories
  85. We all panic by gvc · · Score: 2, Insightful

    We all panic. Most of us are overwhelmed by it from time to time. Some people experience it daily and and are barely able to function in life because of it. Others are able to control it -- at least is most situations -- to the extent that it doesn't overtly affect their performance.

    I suggest that first of all you accept that it will happen. Of course try to recognise the situations leading up to it and try to develop coping mechanisms. The coping mechanisms will have to be things you've worked out in advance because when you're in a state of panic you're not in any position to do so.

    I think it is valuable to use your experience (and others') to develop understanding -- for others and for yourself. There's litte point in saying "I [they] should [should have] done this [that] instead" -- you [they] are [were] simply unable. Some people really are just as panicked as this every day of their lives, and equally unable to cope. This does not mean they are lazy or hopeless or even crazy. You're privileged -- you've made it to college and you're studying something you love. I assume that you're female, so you've done this in spite of a social environment that is not 100% inviting. Obviously you have all the necessary raw materials to be able to cope in stressful situations -- reflect on some such situations and try to figure out what you did.

    What do I do? That's hard to articulate. I'm a big believer in exercise -- walking, running, swimming. Do it regularly and before you notice you are in a potentially panic-inducing situation. Even if you feel you don't have time because you have an assignment, cramming, etc. At least that's what I do. If I have a stressful event on the horizon and only get to bed at 2 a.m. I'm better off getting up at 6 instead of 7 and having a run. An extra hour's (fitful) sleep isn't going to do me the good that the exercise will. And maybe it'll translate into a much better hour's sleep the next night.

    Others here have advocated drugs. Drugs can help in certain situations and for certain problems, but I would not advocate them as a first line of defense. Booze, valium, etc are just depressants. They are unlikely to be strong enough to overcome your angst, but they will certainly affect your performance. SSRIs -- Prozac, Effexor, etc -- can work remarkably well for anxiety. But they are not "pop one when you feel jittery" treatments. And they can have very bad effects. If you are bipolar, they may well exacerbate the problem a lot.

    Enuring yourself to particular situations can help. Stage fright is a good example. Put yourself in speaking situations as opposed to avoiding them. Eventually things get better. I guess you can't replicate exam situations exactly but maybe try a programming contest or something that you wouldn't otherwise enjoy -- if you experience some of the same feelings, this might give you a sandbox in which to experiment with various strategies.

    Sorry if this rambles. I think the theme is that you have to discover what works for you. By all means solicit and consider opinioons such as the ones that you receive here. Since your panic occurs in relatively rare situations it is tough to know exactly what is going to work. I am pretty sure that somebody else's solution applied on an ad hoc basis will not work.

  86. Panic Attacks can be serious by FuzzyDaddy · · Score: 1
    Panic attacks are serious business. Test nervousness is one thing, and if that's the beginning and end of the problem I'm sure you will find a way to cope with it. Use the "special consideration" - I personally think all college level exams should be administered without time limits.

    However, if you had a heart pounding, sweating, feeling like you might die type of panic attack, I'd strongly suggest you talk to a doctor or psychiatrist about it. It's a serious disorder, and a treatable one, as long as you recognize and do something about it. It can be pretty debilitating if you don't, and it can have an onset in early adulthood.

    Either way, good luck. Don't let it get in the way of enjoying what you're learning.

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    It's not wasting time, I'm educating myself.
  87. panic attack solutions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    I've suffered panic attacks for years. The best remedy for instant results, is to shake up your reality tunnel: Go to the washroom, splash water on your face, do some mild stretches (even whilst sitting still in your chair), breathe slowly and deeply and calmly until your chest is relaxed, scrunch up your face muscles until you feel silly. Anything to break the tension of the "flight or fight" mechanism.

    Good luck ;)

  88. Hmm... by ivan256 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Really, it couldn't hurt for you to get professional help. But in the meantime you may want to learn some things that change your mindset a bit...

    I am a distinction / high distinction student

    The fact that your question starts with that tells me that you really focus on that... Perhaps to the point of obscession. Once you get that diploma, no employer that you'll ever want to work for is likely to ask you about your GPA or any of that crap. Some other people here are, both jokingly or not, telling you to give up on caring... You don't have to do that, but you can realize that there's nothing to worry about. Exams aren't going to ruin your life, even if you fail them.

    More than anything though, you should talk to a professional. Most people here, myself included, are talking out their asses. There could be some serious medical consequences that you're not going to find out about here.

  89. hmm.. by woolio · · Score: 1

    3) ... While some people prefer steak and eggs, I like steak and steak. Or oatmeal.

    You forgot the most important side dish to "steak-and-steak" ... ...

    STEAK!

  90. Art of Living course by Steeltoe · · Score: 2, Informative

    A course in Art of Living, there's probably one near you (link in my .sig). It is tools to give you more energy, courage and dispassion, to survive the next exam.

    A secret lies in the breath. We're not really aware of our breath during the day, usually not. So, with breathing exercises we can unleash alot of what is holding us back, and release stress, toxins and fear from the body.

    An advice on here was to not care. But I think this is not entirely accurate, because I think you naturally care. A more precise word is the ancient word of dispassion. Not being attached to the result, but just doing what you can and see what happens. It is a good attitude. Dispassion is actually caring, but not getting tangled up with lots of expectations and attachments. This makes you free from having to think about working, always feeling guilty you haven't worked enough, etc. Such thinking can tire and psyche you out alot more than the actual work itself!

    You can also start attaching positive thoughts to it. Often we harp in our minds again and again about how we suck at certain stuff, that we're not "able" to handle it like the others, comparing and alienating ourselves, etc, etc. Instead, you can find the positive stuff about the subject and yourself. Ie, you have handled many exams fine before, no matter what you will still survive, people shouldn't love you for your results or for any reason, you're good at this stuff because you DO care, etc, etc..

    Whenever you feel anxious again, take your focus to your breath. You have more than enough time during an exam to do this too. When the thoughts wander off the breath, just take it back. With practice this is simple and can make you go through any feelings without panic, so that they get released.

    A full Art of Living course will give many tools to overcome obstacles and finally surpass even your wildest expectations.

  91. How to regain focus by Half+a+dent · · Score: 2, Interesting

    This works for me.

    When your mind just goes blank, think of some really lame pop song and after a verse of that your brain snaps back into focus.

    The downside could be that you have an annoying song playing in your head for a few hours! But hey if you pass the exam it is worth it (just about!).

  92. How about "do your best...." by 1iar_parad0x · · Score: 1

    "If you've done you're best, that all that matters."

    The problem may be that the poster grew up in an environment were praise and affection were based on achievements. Thus, driving the poster's desire to constantly succeed. I don't know. However, the poster needs to adopt the attitude that "doing her best is what's really important, and anybody who expects more is an ass."

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    What do you mean my sig is repetitive? What do you mean my sig is repetitive? What do you mean....
  93. Do something else by Don853 · · Score: 1

    I've never had a panic attack, so I can't speak completely from experience, but I am firmly in the camp that stressing out too much about a test hurts your chances. Some level of fear is good, it makes you prepare, but as you've seen, too much can be very detrimental.

    The obvious first course of action is to know the material well, never miss class unless you absolutely have to, and do all your assignments. This helps you have a good base of knowledge, so there won't be as much you need to learn right before the test. I like to try to get a good night's sleep before a final.

    Unless it's an early test, I will study more the day of the test, but I always stop an hour or two before, and do something completely different, like play video games or cook myself a meal, that gets my mind off the subject for a while, and requires enough attention to actually change what I'm thinking about. The meal helps doubly, since you need the energy to keep you going for a three hour (or longer) exam, unless you're someone who gets sick to the stomach with stress.

    The first thing I always do with a test is page through it, see how long it is and what looks easy and what looks hard. Do the easy things, and the quick points, first, then go back and work through things that are more difficult. Don't add up your points as you go - that'll only make you more nervous. Every half an hour or hour, I'll just stop for a few seconds and stare at the ceiling to keep myself from getting overworked and keep myself thinking clearly.

    And remember, if you think the test is hard, chances are everyone else does too, and a 50 ain't bad if the average is 42.

  94. Get a prescription for anti-anxiety drug by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Most doctors will be willing to perscribe lower powered anti-anxiety drugs that don't require you to take them all the time like ativan or lorazapan. This can help you if you have an episode (or if you can't sleep) and it can give you a sense of control of the situation. You can be comforted to know you have a pill that can help you at your disposal rather than feeling helpless to stop the situation. They are also very cheap in most places. Good for breakups too haha, but beware of the multiplyer effect with alcohol.

  95. Some Weirder Tips by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    1. Eat a banana before the exam. This sounds stupid, but a banana is just enough - and just the right kind - of food to keep you alert in the exam without destroying your nerves with caffeine or sugar. Also, having a pretest ritual of eating a banana puts you in the proper mindset to take the test. I didn't even like bananas until I learned that distance runners often eat a banana before going for long morning runs, and I figured if it can help you run ten miles it might also keep me going for a two-hour linear algebra exam.

    2. Have fun with the test. Does you music theory professor think putting the Beatles on his final will update his image? Does your mechanics professor give stupid premises for what amounts to solving some simple algebra? And if the test is incredibly hard, think of all the kids who never come to class and how bad they're sweating now. Is that stoned looking kid walking in 30 minutes late and the professor is refusing to give him a test? Comedy gold, even if it is a little cruel. If you're that kid who never came to class, marvel at how you can answer some of the questions even though you've never wasted the hours that all the other study-drones have. These kind of things have always put me at ease and in a better mood, so even if I don't know all the answers I don't waste time agonizing over it.

  96. watch out... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    i am quite shocked how many people recommended drinking - or even worse, self-medication - as a relaxing strategy. while it is probably tempting (very simple), that's a very dangerous route to take and will likely make your current problems worse. the other common recommendation seemed to be "stop caring". again, probably not the healthiest thing to do. what about "learn accepting the way things are and work from there".

    while you may eventually need some professional help, my recommendation is some reading: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1401307787. see if this strategy helps you become a calmer person. there's certainly no one-size-fits-all solution and you may have to find a psychiatrist to help you. most universities here (canada) offer psyciatric service or other forms of counseling to their students.

  97. Caffeine by i_am_not_a_script_03 · · Score: 1

    In contrast to many of the posts I've read, for me, cutting out caffeine seems to be a trigger.
    I drink around 4 -6 cups a day and I've found that, whenever I try and quit, the panic attacks hit me. Could be withdrawal though.
    Lack of sleep is also a trigger for me. Too much alcohol .....planes....
    I've always found things like taking deep breaths never work for me. I need to stand up, walk/get out of the place where the attack started and find myself an ice cold drink.
    Water..or preferably beer :).

  98. Deal it with self discipline by Phoe6 · · Score: 1

    You got to remember that dealing with these kind of situations in a day or two is not possible. You have to put a prolonged effort so that the next time an emotional disturbance strikes in whatever form you are ready to recognize it,face it and deal with it.
    Discipline yourself with your study, work and choose the well treaded and solid path. Understand and know the things for certain. Dont put half measures anywhere. These are the cause of trouble. You have a half measure here, another one there and you endup in trouble somewhere. Point to note: Do a solid work(preparation) all the time.

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    Senthil
  99. This is my process for exams by ma11achy · · Score: 1

    I've been studying and doing exams on and off, for the past eight years,
    studying for an Associates Degree and then a B.Sc (Hons) in I.T - this is my final year.

    I'm good at my job (Unix Sysadmin) and enjoy my work, and I'm not
    usually stressed out during the work day.

    Over the past eight years, I have trembled every year at
    exam time. I absolutely hate them.

    But, I developed a system to revise and prepare for the exam,
    so that I would be ready when the time came. Note: My course is modular.

    My system is simple, estimate the amount of work required for a course
    and aim to finish the material one month before exam time. For a full-time student, create enough time for one month's revision, if possible.

    Then, revise by skimming the notes taken for each section for approximately one week to quickly complete the module.

    Download/purchase/acquire past exam papers and study what questions
    appear over a set number of years, say 2000 - 20005. You will almost
    always notice a pattern. Then, do all of the questions listed on the
    exam papers (4 exam papers miminum, 5 preferred).
    Pick out the questions that appear most often throughout the years and
    do these again.

    Then, on the day before exam day, quickly skim through the *entire* course notes/material and aim to finish around 5 or 6PM. Then, do
    something relaxing that takes your mind off the exam. Go to the gym, watch TV, go see a move, or play a game. Do *not* get drunk or go on a bender. Go to bed early and try to get a good night's sleep, without any chemicals.

    Get up the morning of the exam and skim through all the material again.

    This is as prepared as I could be. Maybe it'll work for you.

    Good luck on the next attempt.

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    Eagles may soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines
  100. See a doctor by Jerim · · Score: 1

    Panic attacks can be treated with medication. There is no shame in it. Also, you could be showing signs of fatigue. College can wear people out. Maybe your body is getting exhausted, which is triggering the panic attacks and not the test. The test is just the final straw, as your body strains to recall everything.

    Either way, go see a doctor. The panic attacks could be a sign of a vitamin deficiency, not enough sleep, or any number of other ailments.

  101. My solution by shortergirl06 · · Score: 1

    I have anxiety just stepping into a class room, so tests are hell. One way that I've managed to controll it is to suck on fruity cough drops (the pectin type), and play with silly putty during the test. It works like a stress ball, and the cough drops are just another thing to play with. If the teachers allow it (ask on the first day) I listen to my iPod. I listen to the same genres as when I do homework. Tecno for coding, rock for math, jazz for English. It helps me get into the right frame of mind, and music has always been a calming thing for me.

  102. QUIT NOW!!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you can't handle an exam in (*snicker*) school, you'll never be able to handle real life.

  103. Just nerves, or something deeper? by Spunk · · Score: 1

    A lot of the responses so far have been along the lines of "relax, it's just a test," and others have been "see your doctor, there's a chemical explanation." Depending on the circumstances, it could be either of these, but it sounds like the latter makes sense for you. Considering that this test appears to be nothing special and it's in a class you don't have a problem with, something other than typical test-jitters seems to be at play here. Medication really helped my ex-girlfriend with this sort of thing. Maybe there's one that's appropriate for you, or maybe counseling will help. Anyway, seeing a doctor and a therapist sounds like a good plan.