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Re:Lies, bullshit, and more lies ...
I took my time to review their claims that H1-B visas create jobs for american workers: http://www.renewoureconomy.org...
Here's an example of research they quote: http://immigrationworksusa.org...
Executive summary: companies that hire H1-B workers also hire US workers. Similarly if companies hire H1-B workers they lay off fewer domestic workers. There exists a strong correlation (or "association" in their terms) between hiring via H1-B visas and hiring locally. Claims that H1-B hiring directly causes jobs to be created for US workers are not substantiated by any research I could find.
Now, I'm only an armchair social scientist whereas authors of these studies are named as "Harvard professors" and such so I have no idea why they avoid absolutely obvious conclusion that successful and growing companies like to hire workers from both pools! I'll speculate that these companies prefer hiring workers who are more pliable, cheaper, easier to fire - ideally identured and that they also prefer keeping wages low. That makes companies more successful and profitable. Everyone knows that if a company is profitable it will aim to expand and to hire more workers - but to claim that company will hire expensive workers when cheap ones are available is moronic.
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Re:Half-true
In other words, you only want White, Immigrants, no ones with a little brown in their skin.
Think you need to see the countries of origin on page 9
But the study is still logically wrong. It concludes "immigrants name on patents = immigrants needed for patents". Faulty logic. Just because there is an immigrants name on a patent, along with a dozen other names, does not mean that patent would not exist without immigrants. I could do the same study, but conclude that non-immigrants are crucial for patents, because 95% of the 2011 US patents had at least one non-immigrant inventor listed.
Besides study is biased, put out by pro-immigration group: " The Partnership for a New American Economy.... will pursue Congress and the White House to enact legislation which will create "a path to legal status for all undocumented immigrants now in the United States".[2] The partnership will seek to influence "by publishing studies, conducting polls, convening forums, and sponsoring public education campaigns".[1]"
So this is, basically, SPAM, on the front page of /. -
Re:The Partnership for a New American Economy
Any time I parse something like "(Partnership).*(American|(Econom(y|ic)))", I immediately lump it into the right wing propoganda bin.
The Partnership for a New American Economy sounds more corporatist than hard-right; there's more than one right-wing propaganda bin, and they're not in, for example, the right-wing nativist bin.
(Oh, and given who heads up the list of co-chairs, the "chair" part is a bit amusing....)
They're the same bin.. The nationalist right is just a PR front for the corporatist right, designed to fool the masses into voting against their own economic and social interests.
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Re:The Partnership for a New American Economy
Any time I parse something like "(Partnership).*(American|(Econom(y|ic)))", I immediately lump it into the right wing propoganda bin.
The Partnership for a New American Economy sounds more corporatist than hard-right; there's more than one right-wing propaganda bin, and they're not in, for example, the right-wing nativist bin.
(Oh, and given who heads up the list of co-chairs, the "chair" part is a bit amusing....)
They're the same bin.. The nationalist right is just a PR front for the corporatist right, designed to fool the masses into voting against their own economic and social interests.
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Re:The Partnership for a New American Economy
Any time I parse something like "(Partnership).*(American|(Econom(y|ic)))", I immediately lump it into the right wing propoganda bin.
The Partnership for a New American Economy sounds more corporatist than hard-right; there's more than one right-wing propaganda bin, and they're not in, for example, the right-wing nativist bin.
(Oh, and given who heads up the list of co-chairs, the "chair" part is a bit amusing....)
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Re:The Partnership for a New American Economy
Any time I parse something like "(Partnership).*(American|(Econom(y|ic)))", I immediately lump it into the right wing propoganda bin.
The Partnership for a New American Economy sounds more corporatist than hard-right; there's more than one right-wing propaganda bin, and they're not in, for example, the right-wing nativist bin.
(Oh, and given who heads up the list of co-chairs, the "chair" part is a bit amusing....)