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> They didn't embrace any of the common standards that were emerging.

Yes, they did--they embraced Intel/DOS/Windows. Didn't help them much.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commodore_PC_compatible_systems
http://amiga.resource.cx/exp/a2286at

That's why you got one of these:

http://amiga.resource.cx/photo...

No ram issues. :) And with an A500+, you got 1MB of chip ram. :)

I have an 8 Meg expansion card for the 2000, I only got as far as I needed
http://amiga.resource.cx/searc...

1 this is A500 expansion
2 this is fast ram expansion, Amiga stores images/sounds in the chip ram (separate memory bus) so even if you had third party sram expansion it would do nothing for you because pictures and music was stored in different part of the computer. Amiga rasterizer and sound chips had no access to fast ram (where this particular sram extension installs). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
3 again - what you described (reset to rip memory content) _never_ required special memory type. You could do it on C64, Amiga, Atari, even consoles.
4 pointing at third party products to corroborate your faulty memory is like claiming Honda Civics came with Spoon engines, T66 turbo, NOS, and MoTeC system exhaust.

Got a late start eh, I don't think many on /. haven't worked on computers

cute :)

I get it man, you miss remembered something and now just cant let go. Its ok, its not the end of the world. I will leave you and your cognitive dissonance in peace.

so again, there never was any sram in amigas

I have an 8 Meg expansion card for the 2000, I only got as far as I needed
http://amiga.resource.cx/searc...

ps: I fix computers on a component level since nineties :/

Got a late start eh, I don't think many on /. haven't worked on computers

there is no sram in amigas (except for 768 bytes of palette inside Lisa chip)
The difference between sram and dram is _not_ that one of them can keep the data over a reset, its that one of them keeps data without explicit _refresh cycles_ when rest of computer is powered down completely. Reboot is not doing ANYTHING to ANY type or ram. Resetting a running computer without stopping current program was standard on Intel 286 (dram simms) when switching from protected mode back to real addressing: https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.c... Windows 2 and XMS could do it multiple times per second, this was early nineties.

This is Amiga 3000 dram: http://www.ubbcentral.com/stor...

as seen on page 6 of schematic http://www.amigawiki.de/dnl/sc...
here is detailed specs: http://amiga.resource.cx/mod/a...
and here a definition of "static column mode" in case you would somehow think this means SRAM: https://www.jedec.org/standard...
even scan doubler FRAM is based on DRAM

so again, there never was any sram in amigas

ps: I fix computers on a component level since nineties :/

Yes, I realise that it was hyperbole, but now you've got me started and I won't be able to stop.

It's actually pretty straightforward:

Amiga, Inc., which is Bill McEwen's company and the current holder, outsourced hardware manufacture to a venerable Amiga hardware add on company, EyeTech. The result was the AmigaOne, a PPC-based system that iterated the natural direction in which Amiga hardware addons had developed throughout the nineties. The operating system, AmigaOS 4, was outsourced to Hyperion Entertainment. (AmigaOS 4 also runs on the Pegasos computers made by Genesi, an off-brand effort that is similar. Genesi also sells their own OS, MorphOS, which does not run on the AmigaOne.)

Leaving Genesi out of the equation, there are really just the two companies, one for hardware and one for software. Amiga, Inc. just holds the brand name. The machines actually are logical successors to the classic Amigas, but to an outsider they look strange because there are several generations of expansion cards and off-brand machines in between, such as the DraCo. Some AmigaOnes even have slots for inserting classic Amiga components to improve compatibility.

The Commodore USA story is also pretty simple: they just sell low-end PCs in kitschy boxes.

So, really, four things to keep track of in the current ecosystem, and only two that actually produce anything of worth. The tricky detail is that Eyetech has recently been replaced by another company, A-Eon, but it's still the same hardware lineage. Amiga users are divided between classic purists, MorphOS enthusiasts, and AmigaOS 4 enthusiasts, with a small group who use a multiplatform open source OS called AROS. (And, yes, all of it is outdated, overpriced, and underpowered.)

My A500 had 4 expansion ports via this card... http://amiga.resource.cx/photos/busconverter,1

Mine, in the basement. Set up and running, though.

Feb 1996 A1000 with a Microbotics Starboard 2 with BATTERY BACKED REAL TIME CLOCK! W00T!

Pretty much stock. So floppy disks matter to me. You might say that this subject is relevant to my interests.

He didn't say it was a stock 1200. Maybe he had a Blizzard PPC with Blizzardvision graphics card?

The logo on the box says "patent pending". Good luck. Check out DKB's Battdisk for the Amiga, from 1987 or so. http://amiga.resource.cx/exp/search.pl?product=bat tdisk

Copy Kickstart on to this, then use it to boot and you could boot an Amiga 3000 in 3-5 seconds. Wonderful device.

[Note: DKB = Dean K. Brown's company that did some real nice, and popular, hardware for the Amiga.]

-Charles

was totally linear video (meaning you had to have a source deck and a record deck) it couldn't even capture video clips.

You are correct, but only partially. Yes, the Video Toaster was for linear video editing only. That is until you added the Video Toaster Flyer to your Amiga rig, which would allow you to do non-linear video editing and capture video on up to 21 SCSI disks.

The Video Toaster was originally brought out to go inside the A2000, then the top of the Amiga line. Commodore, in what was probably their largest blunder (because the VT was the best reason that ever came along to purchase an Amiga), then brought out the considerably more powerful A3000, whose case design would not allow for a VT to be installed (although there were various kludges). -g

The Video Toaster was originally brought out to go inside the A2000, then the top of the Amiga line. Commodore, in what was probably their largest blunder (because the VT was the best reason that ever came along to purchase an Amiga), then brought out the considerably more powerful A3000, whose case design would not allow for a VT to be installed (although there were various kludges). -g