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Citation: https://rockhall.com/inductees...

Doesn't exist. Look at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame: https://rockhall.com/inductees.... Do you agree with all of these? Can you name some that should be there, or perhaps should be there instead?

It looks to me like the first 6 inductees are all games even many non-gamers would have heard of. MY MOM knows about WoW, she's in her 70s and the only video game she has ever played is Words with Friends. I guarantee you that she and most people like her wouldn't know any other MMO.

>As a professional "graphics artist type" I take a offense at that. What if I were to ask about the computer coders types making the kind of buggy crap they do now with [whatever language you like]?

Well, if it was useless, poorly coded and I was inflicting it on other people, I would be ashamed - except I don't see why I would put it out there in the first place.

http://www.karenkaram.co.uk/index2.html
http://www.raspini.gr/
http://www.rockhall.com/rockimmortal/home.html

Stuff like this has no reason to exist. The first two have maybe a slight excuse, because they are the sites of designers or something and they want their sites to reflect their real-world bad taste. But the last one is absolutely gratuitous as well as awful.

> Why don't these fuckups just bite the bullet and admit that their records don't sell because their records are crap?

Yawn .. I can assure you that they arnt the slightest bit interested in selling millions of records. What they are interested, however, is to avoid sucking the very well paid dicks you seem to eager to suck. Unfortunately for you, lots of people are willing to suck the dicks' of the rich and famous (read: the multimillion disc sellers), so just pray they're still rich by the time you reach the front of the line. (Of course, this won't be a problem so long as they dont release any crap like Joni Mitchell or Tom Petty did, right?)

> Why don't these fuckups just bite the bullet and admit that their records don't sell because their records are crap?

Yawn .. I can assure you that they arnt the slightest bit interested in selling millions of records. What they are interested, however, is to avoid sucking the very well paid dicks you seem to eager to suck. Unfortunately for you, lots of people are willing to suck the dicks' of the rich and famous (read: the multimillion disc sellers), so just pray they're still rich by the time you reach the front of the line. (Of course, this won't be a problem so long as they dont release any crap like Joni Mitchell or Tom Petty did, right?)

At The Rock & Roll Hall of Fame & Museum (Shockwave required)

Click "Explore The Timeline." A pop-up window loads the timeline app. Wait for a map of music styles to display, then browse around a bit to get the feel of the thing.

Now for the fun: type out "malkovich" to enter you-know-what mode. Type again to return to normal mode.

After spending several consecutive 14-hour workdays massaging a giant text database, we added this hack solely to amuse ourselves. Interesting to see the same idea spring up independently, elsewhere.

Pardon me TWO hit-wonder. I stand corrected. BTW, I went to their official site to listen to some music, but those 1 minute Real streams didn't do the music much justice. Maybe I'll use Napster tonight and see if the are any good...

For a better list of artists who got pimped and shoved back on the street, visit here.

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"no-cost product" ... WHAT?!?! Did you just say that the life of an artist and their work is absolutely worthless?

No, you're reading your assumption that I'm a grumpy pirate into your argument. The product itself costs the creator NOTHING to reproduce a billion times over and spread throughout the world. Yes, there are fixed costs on producing content, but given the multiplying effects of digital media, that is the only cost in creating a product. So that is the only cost that needs to be covered to continue production.

I'm amazed at how much contempt for the artist I am discovering in these discussions, it is truly amazing.

No, it is not contempt for the artist. It is contempt for the people who control the artists and convince them to sign over the rights to their own work, in exchange for the promotional efforts and industry ties that all but guarantee a good selling album. They also convince the artists to sign away their next 5 albums, so in case the first one makes it big, the artist can't go and find a better deal. That is where the contempt is.

So by making Lambourghinis $200k, they are "controlling" my "access" to it? Excuse me, but no.

Umm that seems like a pretty good control of access, no? Besides, please don't try and bring products where scarcity is a concern into the argument, they don't apply. Unless you happen to know where I can download a Ferrari...

How does this have any bearing at all on the current discussion?

This is what the current discussion is about. Remember at the beginning of my first comment when I said "You forgot about the Internet." You're trying to do it again.

Instead of being a constructive atmosphere, you choose to represent the Internet as a place where if you want to create, good, we'll steal every single thing you do and rape you dry and we don't give a fuck about your life.

Or perhaps it would be a bit more like that other thing where people have released their creation to the Net. That Linux thing. Where nobody cares about Linus, or Alan, or Richard, or Miguel, or Rasterman. It's a freakin' cult of personality. Kind of like music should be, no? I guess I was raping Phish when I plunked down $175 to get in a gate to see them play (multiple that by 75,000 and tell me you can't make money giving away music). Yea, those idiots, releasing all that music on the Net to make their fans happy. What a crazy idea!

That might work for Morissey, but it won't work for many others.

Give me a list of those that have tried, and I'll believe you. Give me a list of big bands who have made their music free to all (just to listen to, mind you) and has failed because of it. I'll be right here waiting...

You just shot a huge load with that statement. You are assuming everyone is stupid enough to be duped by advertisment, you're assuming people are watching those advertisements, you'r eassuming a whole assload of things which boil down to a simple point: You believe people are stupid and that companies only have to spend a few bucks to get them hooked. I believe this is true for a large quantity of human beings. I also believe that those human beings deserve exactly what they get from the big corporations.

Aah, this is where we differ. I, being the happy-go-lucky person I am, would rather the poor unguided souls NOT support repressive regimes and line the pockets of immoral record executives. You think that's great. It's not your responsibility, or even a worthwhile undertaking, to educate others about the effects of their apathy. I guess if that's where you want to stand , so be it.

The big question here is, what was the last band that failed that the record companies supported?

hmm, Vanilla Ice, Milli Vanilli, New Kids on the Block, Poison, Debbie Gibson, oh, here's a nice list

Fine, just ingore my point

No prob, it was a weak point. Unless you think that *every* story was told and every *painting* was done for the sole reason of education.

They'd then stick a nice big spear through your skull when you ask them why they waste time hunting while they could be painting pretty pictures and then letting other people have them without trade.

Wow, they had the Internet back then? Awesome (remember my first sentence waay back when, something about remembering something...).

There will be a future on the Internet of protected content.

Perhaps, but not for music.

You will hate it, you will rail against it, which is why it WON'T happen.

Sit back and wait. Wait and watch.

YOU do that, I've got better stuff to do.

hmmm If you do art for arts sake, well, masturbation is fun but empty.

I saw this on one of your other threads. Now I know why you don't get it.

ALL HAIL THE PROFIT MOTIVE, ITS THE ONLY REASON ART GETS DONE!
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