Domain: seattlewireless.net
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Re:NAN
This sound like what the SeattleWireless network is doing but on a larger scale. http://www.seattlewireless.net/
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We figured this out about a year ago.
The whole idea of trusting the wire is a pretty bad one.
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Yeah, already in progress..
SeattleWireless and PersonalTelco are already doing it. Go read.
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From the owner of the First Node of NYC wirelessI put of the first NYCwireless node 3 1/2 months ago (after seeing the article about Seattle Wireless here) so I thought I would respond to some of the valid the comments.
* As far as violating the terms of service, most of the internet connections we are using we are ok, since we are not reselling the service, only sharing it to the our immediate friends and neighbors. Providers may choose to change there terms of services though. We are paying for this service, and choosing to let people use bandwidth we have already bought.
* As far as the network getting used by to many users and becoming useless. Most of the access points have Linux or FreeBSD machines as gateways. If this becomes an issue we will just install traffic shaping software on the gateway. The goal is not to provide you with a superfast connection that will make you give up your home cable modem and DSL line to sit in the park (though that would be nice). The goal is to provide a public free open wireless network for anyone to use. Even if the network gets saturated and we are only providing each person with 10kBytes/sec, that is still double the speed of dialup and adequate for web browsing and email. I watch the bandwidth usage very carefully, and people have been very good about using the free network.
* Wireless is not a replacement for a wired network, and free networks are not a replacement for commercial networks. That being said we are never going to replace commercial wired networks. We can provide an alternative for you to use though.
If your interested in starting a project in your area, do it.
1. Put up a simple web page on geocities or something.
2. Start a mailing list on Yahoo Groups
3. Post links to your website on the Seattle Wireless and Personal Telco web pages. -That is how NYCwireless (originally RooftopsNYC) got started.
-Maybe there is a group in your area, check: Personal Telco Wireless Communties List
If your in New York City, your welcome to use my node at 84th Street and Lexington Ave. Relax at the corner, or have a coffee at the coffee shop.
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From the owner of the First Node of NYC wirelessI put of the first NYCwireless node 3 1/2 months ago (after seeing the article about Seattle Wireless here) so I thought I would respond to some of the valid the comments.
* As far as violating the terms of service, most of the internet connections we are using we are ok, since we are not reselling the service, only sharing it to the our immediate friends and neighbors. Providers may choose to change there terms of services though. We are paying for this service, and choosing to let people use bandwidth we have already bought.
* As far as the network getting used by to many users and becoming useless. Most of the access points have Linux or FreeBSD machines as gateways. If this becomes an issue we will just install traffic shaping software on the gateway. The goal is not to provide you with a superfast connection that will make you give up your home cable modem and DSL line to sit in the park (though that would be nice). The goal is to provide a public free open wireless network for anyone to use. Even if the network gets saturated and we are only providing each person with 10kBytes/sec, that is still double the speed of dialup and adequate for web browsing and email. I watch the bandwidth usage very carefully, and people have been very good about using the free network.
* Wireless is not a replacement for a wired network, and free networks are not a replacement for commercial networks. That being said we are never going to replace commercial wired networks. We can provide an alternative for you to use though.
If your interested in starting a project in your area, do it.
1. Put up a simple web page on geocities or something.
2. Start a mailing list on Yahoo Groups
3. Post links to your website on the Seattle Wireless and Personal Telco web pages. -That is how NYCwireless (originally RooftopsNYC) got started.
-Maybe there is a group in your area, check: Personal Telco Wireless Communties List
If your in New York City, your welcome to use my node at 84th Street and Lexington Ave. Relax at the corner, or have a coffee at the coffee shop.
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Pardon Me
There are motley crews beaming no-cost broadband in several dozen cities around the world. Unless they've managed to slather the entire Lower East Side with access points and get a fair number of end-user type participants, what the hell is so special about New York's version of this idea?
I'm doing this in Chicago (things are moving slowly). My personal favorites in the community wireless world are Seattle Wireless and Green Bay Professional Packet Radio (GBPPR has some great tech and a very experimental bent, but they won't give you the time of day unless you can convert mw to dBm in your head... fine with me).
The way DSL is going, I can't wait for stuff like this to pick up some momentum. -
you don't need their infrastructure..
If you and a few of your local crazy-ass friends got together, you could make your own wireless LAN. Check out what the folks in seattle have done.
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Alternative to DSL
You could always set up a Seattle Wireless-type setup by doing an 802.11b point-to-point link from your office building (if you have line of sight) or get a few neighborhood friends to buy some access points & wireless cards, attach dialup modem proxies to the newly-created network, modify some open proxy software to somehow combine the multiple dialup connections into an equivalent of a DSL, OR find a nearby company with a fat pipe and an unsecured network and use a laptop connected to 2 wireless cards to act as a repeater stashed in a nice waterproof box and some directional antennas between you and the fat pipe.
OR, you could just get a cable modem.
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Re:That's nothing, We've been doing 11 MB/s
Check out http://www.seattlewireless.net. They've been doing a community wireless service for a few years now with great success.
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Re:Wireless internet available for free!Yep, there surely are many community-based wireless networks. Some of them are:
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No Starbucks if you live in these neighborhoods...University Park has a LOT of information on PUBLIC wireless access initiatives in various communities. Other than Colleges, it appears that Seattle is leading the way
...Luckily for me
... I live in Seattle, and my Linksys card is on the way. -
Antenna?
I hope they find a way to keep it up there. It would be funny if the seattle wireless guys used it as an antenna. Technological advances indeed.
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803.11b
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Seattlewireless.net
Any one interested in this technology should check out Seattlewireless.net we are a group building a free wireless network in the seattle area. Along the same lines as consume and other projects, however our mission is not based on internet access, but to create a network unto its own based on 80211b technology. We plan to have internet gateways present on our network, however we would like to see a local/free/public wireless network that had its own web its own irc, quake servers etc... Check it out for more info.
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Wireless MANWe're setting up a free wireless Metropolitan Area Network.
interested?
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SeattleWirelesscheck out SeattleWireless.
They are using the canberra plans to make helical antennae and set up a city-wide wireless network.
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Apple Airport is Orinoco based.They've got the same card. guaranteed.
If this is just for your house, go for the airport. It's got plenty of range and it is a _lot_ cheaper.
If you're in Seattle or want a ton of wireless links, check out http://seattlewireless.net/
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SeattleWireless
We're working on a free public wireless network in Seattle.
see http://seattlewireless.net/