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Monolith Appears In Seattle

LordXarph writes: "AP reports that on new year's day 2001, a 6 foot tall monolith has appeared in seattle. If Monolith Software weren't based in Seattle, I would be worried." Anyone have pictures of this thing? It makes me want to hum Particle Man by They Might Be Giants. Oh wait- Wrong song.Update: 01/03 04:39 AM by H :Check out the picture that a number of people sent in.

306 comments

  1. one comment says it all by holzp · · Score: 1

    cool. whomever you were.

    1. Re:one comment says it all by Presence2 · · Score: 1

      Actually, the article states that they replaced sod around the area, indicating that some digging must have been done. To prevent it from tipping, support rods HAD to be used. Twit.

  2. My God! by sharkey · · Score: 3

    ......It's full of stars!

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    1. Re:My God! by mrs+clear+plastic · · Score: 1

      Its full of dot com pink slips

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    2. Re:My God! by sharkey · · Score: 1

      And...
      ....software patents.

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    3. Re:My God! by DeltaStorm · · Score: 1

      My God.... It's full of Starbucks!

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  3. What, are we supposed to go throw bones at it? by plover · · Score: 2

    and did anybody look inside?

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    1. Re:What, are we supposed to go throw bones at it? by sharkey · · Score: 1

      Make sure you plug your ears before Earthrise!

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    2. Re:What, are we supposed to go throw bones at it? by Black+Parrot · · Score: 3

      The funny thing is, the original wasn't really supposed to put the apes on the road to technological civilization. What they saw was just the screensaver; they read their own message in to it.

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  4. Oh great! by ansonyumo · · Score: 1

    An instrument of evolution in the birthplace of M$ and grunge music. We're doomed.

    1. Re:Oh great! by Panaflex · · Score: 1

      The birthplace of M$?

      Albuquerque, NM.

      Pan

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    2. Re:Oh great! by ansonyumo · · Score: 1

      Yeah, that was where the first office was, but I think you could argue that M$ was born at Lakeside.

    3. Re:Oh great! by PhilBrut · · Score: 1

      > An instrument of evolution in the birthplace of M$ and grunge music. We're doomed.

      So it's the birthplace of grunge and where MS currently lives? I think they both need all the help they can get :)

  5. TYPO IN POST by B00yah · · Score: 1

    According to Yahoo! (the link in the article), the monolith is 9 ft tall...just nitpicking...:)

    1. Re:TYPO IN POST by ethereal · · Score: 2

      CmdrTaco should have known that the dimensions would have to be 1x4x9 - how hard is it to remember 1^2 x 2^2 x 3^2 if you've seen the movie?

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    2. Re:TYPO IN POST by gorgon · · Score: 1

      Except that what alien worth it salt would measure their monolith in feet?

      "That fat, dumb, and bald guy sure plays a mean hardball."

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    3. Re:TYPO IN POST by Speare · · Score: 2

      It's not the feet, it's the ratio between the measurements. It could be 1 : 4 : 9 cubits or zoinkles or leagues, it doesn't matter. Those measurements would show to some other race that the makers knew MATH.

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    4. Re:TYPO IN POST by bobthemonkey13 · · Score: 1

      It wouldn't have to be feet; 1 : 4 : 9 is a ratio.

    5. Re:TYPO IN POST by xmedar · · Score: 1

      Except that what alien worth it salt would measure their monolith in feet?
      Yeah, if it was NASA they'd measure different sides in different units...

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    6. Re:TYPO IN POST by larkost · · Score: 1

      but... you keep forgetting that the dimensions of the monoliths were 1x4x9 by 16! 16 of course being the temporal measurement/dimension. I guess you had to read all the books (I am not sure that this was in 2001 or in 2061, it was not in the movie though...)

    7. Re:TYPO IN POST by gorgon · · Score: 1

      I know the ratio is 1:4:9. I was replying to ethereal who implied that it wouldn't make sense for the monolith to be about 6 feet tall. My point was it didn't really matter how big any particular direction was, but that the ratio had to be right. So I agree with you totally, its not the feet.

      "That fat, dumb, and bald guy sure plays a mean hardball."

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  6. Here's a picture by GregWalrath · · Score: 1

    A link to our local paper with the picture of the thing:

    http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/cgi-bin/WebObje ct s/SeattleTimes.woa/wa/gotoArticle?zsection_id=2684 66359&text_only=0&slug=mono02m&document_id=1342575 98

    1. Re:Here's a picture by sulli · · Score: 4
      Well, here's an actual picture:

      Actual Picture

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  7. Microlith ? by Allocator+Buddy · · Score: 2

    6 feet with a dumb look ? Must be Bill Gates...

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  8. Link to picture by Relim · · Score: 5

    Here's a picture of the monolith in the Seattle Times.

  9. Forgot the HTML - sorry by GregWalrath · · Score: 2

    The link again. Click that for the picture.

  10. There's only one because... by Akardam · · Score: 4

    ... it's the first year of the new Millenium.

    Next year there'll be two, the next, three, the next, four, and so on.

    By the end of the Millenium, we'll have Monoliths across America, and God will reach down and start the biggest domino effect in the history of the world!

    1. Re:There's only one because... by centauri · · Score: 1

      Actually, monoliths reproduce at a geometric rate. However, they prefer to gobble hydrogen, so perhaps we're safe.

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    2. Re:There's only one because... by bobthemonkey13 · · Score: 5

      All these worlds are yours -- except Seattle. Attempt no landings there.

    3. Re:There's only one because... by KFury · · Score: 4

      Actually, monoliths reproduce at a geometric rate.

      Like Starbucks. Sure, it started out with just one in Seattle, but then there's 2, then 4, then 8, and before you know it, they'll be everywhere.

      Kevin Fox

    4. Re:There's only one because... by Yottabyte84 · · Score: 1

      You should let AOLiza out more :) What's her screen name BTW? (not that I think you'll tell me...)

  11. Wrong link by B00yah · · Score: 1

    This is the right link:
    http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/cgi-bin/WebObje ct s/SeattleTimes.woa/wa/gotoArticle?zsection_id=2684 66359&text_only=0&slug=mono02m&document_id=1342575 98

  12. The only one? by A_Mythago · · Score: 1
    The fact a 9-foot monolith appeared in Seattle is not really the suprising thing...I am suprised we have not seen a rash of "monolith-like" objects sprouting up around the world.

    Of course maybe a higher power is trying to "encourage" Microsoft to evolve into a higher lifeform (open source of course)

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  13. Uhhh.... by myosin · · Score: 1

    A *six foot* tall monolith. I could pull a bigger monolith out of my butt.

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    1. Re:Uhhh.... by TheWhiteOtaku · · Score: 1
      Whatever, I'd love to see that happen.

      Actually nevermind, I wouldn't. I'm sure you can do it though.

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    2. Re:Uhhh.... by myosin · · Score: 1

      I just saw the photos. Ive changed my mind, its actually 9 foot tall.... that could cause some bruising.

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    3. Re:Uhhh.... by TheWhiteOtaku · · Score: 1

      Still, six foot tall is pretty hefty for anal removal I would think.

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    4. Re:Uhhh.... by toneby · · Score: 1

      how large would a foot with shoesize 6 be? probably alot smaller than that monolith, and probably possible to pull out of your butt (not that I intend to try, or want to see anyone do it... ;).

    5. Re:Uhhh.... by TheWhiteOtaku · · Score: 1

      Right...

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  14. Squares of the first three integers? by centauri · · Score: 1

    Are the proportions one by four by nine? I hope to see it tonight and measure it.

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    1. Re:Squares of the first three integers? by hugg · · Score: 2

      It is a shame, however, that the aliens chose English units... not that I'm Canadian or anything...

    2. Re:Squares of the first three integers? by Bonker · · Score: 1

      The aliens did not use english measurements. The first monolith on Earth stood (at least as displayed in the movie) about twice as tall as the austrolapithicines that it altered. The second monolith (TMA 1) appears to stand between 10 and 20 feet.

      TMA 2, its big brother in orbit around Jupiter (On the surface of Titan in the novel) measured over 2 kilometers.

      All monoliths are but reflections of a grander design and one monolith, since they are self-replicating, can give birth to more. The dimensions 1 x 4 x 9 are just that, proportions.

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    3. Re:Squares of the first three integers? by NineNine · · Score: 1

      That's what my girlfriend said.

    4. Re:Squares of the first three integers? by po_boy · · Score: 2
      Do Canadians use different prime numbers than the rest of the world? They're weirder than I thought.

      1,4, and 9 are prime where you are? damn, that is weird.

    5. Re:Squares of the first three integers? by bobthemonkey13 · · Score: 1

      So in Canada, 3 ^ 2 = 6?

    6. Re:Squares of the first three integers? by FigWig · · Score: 1

      Canadians have 21 amino acids.

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  15. I might be in awe... by boinger · · Score: 1
    ...if it was a little larger than 6 foot.

    It's not like the size was hard to estimate in Kubrick's film...It was certainly bigger than 6 feet tall.

    And if it had a big Space Fetus...that would make me more impressed, too.

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    1. Re:I might be in awe... by boinger · · Score: 1

      Ah, so sue me. At first glance (from a picture NOT linked to, yet) it looked smaller than "proper". Whoops.

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  16. Story and Picture Link by Luminous · · Score: 2
    Here's a link that works. Monolith Story with picture

    Not as impressive as I had hoped.

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    1. Re:Story and Picture Link by Ross+C.+Brackett · · Score: 2

      Of course it's not impressive - it was taken by some lowly newspaper photographer. Fortunately, I found a picture from a better angle taken by a pro, right here. See the difference a professional photographer can make?

    2. Re:Story and Picture Link by Luminous · · Score: 2

      LOL! And look the zoo let out all the monkeys for the great monolith event.

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    3. Re:Story and Picture Link by nyet · · Score: 1

      Was it in danger of being trod upon by a dwarf?

  17. Proportions by Bazman · · Score: 3

    But does it have the 1x4x9 proportions?

    Baz

    1. Re:Proportions by Glytch · · Score: 1

      From the picture, it looks pretty close. Anyone live in Seattle who's got a measuring tape and too much time on their hands?

    2. Re:Proportions by Luminous · · Score: 2

      And would the proportions include the section embedded in the soil? Better uproot the whole thing to get the real answer.

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    3. Re:Proportions by Sabalon · · Score: 1

      Nope...it's been formatted to fit your reality and run in the allotted time.

    4. Re:Proportions by zuvembi · · Score: 1

      Oooh, ooooh, Mr. Carter, Mr. Carter, that would be me. But right now I'm at work. Hmm, maybe I'll head down their after work and see how big it is...

      I still think I prefer the statue of Lenin (direct from Russia), or the Troll under the bridge in Fremont though.

    5. Re:Proportions by Paradise_Pete · · Score: 1
      Oooh, ooooh, Mr. Carter, Mr. Carter, that would be me.

      That's Sergeant Carter to you, son. Now drop and give me twenty!

    6. Re:Proportions by zuvembi · · Score: 1

      Doh, I was thinking of 'Welcome Back, Kotter'. Which would be "Ooo, Ooo, Mr. Kotter, Mr. Kotter" Not Mr. Carter. Ah well such is life.

    7. Re:Proportions by squidfood · · Score: 5
      Well, I just walked down with my trusty tape measure (can see the hill from my office building) and the official size:

      1.0ft x 4.0ft x 8.5+ft

      My ruler goes to 1/16 inches and it was accurate to that level---don't have micrometers to examine further. It was buried slightly at an angle, so I couldn't determine the height.

      It's oriented N/S, but with the sun at its current height there's at least one "sunrise over monolith" place to stand.

      I would have dug it up to determine the height, but there was a crowd there, mostly dog-walkers. I got involved with a conversation with Fido and Rex about the trival 12th-dimensional spacetime rotation required to unify...oh, that's right, you haven't touched it yet.

    8. Re:Proportions by squidfood · · Score: 2

      A followup: just finished re-orienting the rotated tape-measure, and the true dimensions are 1.0 x 4.0 x 9.0 x 16.0 x 25.0 x 36.0 x 49.0 x whups gotta run, i just figured out my tax return...

    9. Re:Proportions by TheWhiteOtaku · · Score: 1
      And we can assume that about a half a foot was buried (though one hopes it was a bit more.)

      At least whoever put it up got the dimensions right, I'd be sorta disappointed if they didn't.

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    10. Re:Proportions by squidfood · · Score: 2
      Weeell, measuring the 4 and 9 dimensions were probably only accurate to 1/4inch or so (hard to get the tape perfectly perpendicular-my error not the builder's error) but I also had a plastic ruler that was 1.0ft (marked and sqaured on the edges) and the thing was exactly 1.0 so I thought feet was a good measure to keep it in.

      Just goes to show, Imperial measures were the work of God (or at least space aliens). Show those EU b@Stards that want us to measure things in kilograms a thing or two...

    11. Re:Proportions by squidfood · · Score: 1

      You earthlings, you think the universe revolves around you, why would we build the 1:10:101 ratio in a base-10 based measurement system, i don't know...

    12. Re:Proportions by squidfood · · Score: 1

      whups! That's 1:100:1001, of course! silly me typing too fast...

    13. Re:Proportions by breser · · Score: 2
      I went down there and measured tonight as well. It was nearly 1.0ft x 4.00ft but on the height I came up with 106 inches or 8.83 ft. I'd guess between the ground and the part that's buried it's still darn close to the proportions.

      On the other sides though it was slightly over by like a 16th of an inch.

    14. Re:Proportions by Ig0r · · Score: 1

      A ratio, by definition, is relative.
      That means it doesn't matter what units you use.

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    15. Re:Proportions by gnarly · · Score: 1
      > That's 1:100:1001

      More properly, thats:

      1^10 : 10^10 : 11^10

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    16. Re:Proportions by Chagrin · · Score: 1

      But this one goes to 1/16

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    17. Re:Proportions by SubtleNuance · · Score: 2

      Did you tap it? How heavy was the gauge metal used? Did it sound light/hollow/tinny when tapped? or was it a heavier gauge and felt more dense...?

      For the record: Thanks to whoever did this - the world needs more randomness like this.. kudos friend.

    18. Re:Proportions by squidfood · · Score: 1
      Couldn't tell, 'cause it was frictionless...

      Actually, it was hollow, but of a fairly thick steel, what you might call "public sculpture grade."

      When you tapped it, the sound wasn't tinny or light, sort of heavy like a bell (tho' not in tune).

  18. A picture would be nice by tswinzig · · Score: 1

    How could someone write a news story about this and not include a picture???

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    1. Re:A picture would be nice by Alomex · · Score: 1
      How could someone write a news story about this and not include a picture???

      Which IMHO means that some content creation companies still don't get the web.

      Just recently President Clinton pardoned 500 or so criminals. None of the web news items contained the whole list of names... In a newspaper you must certainly wouldn't print the whole list. On the web you must certainly include a link to the whole list.

      I'm interested only because of a friend...really... ;-)

  19. A picture of it, from the Seattle Times by Tairan · · Score: 1
    is over on my web server here

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  20. And another... by Booker · · Score: 4
    is here

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    1. Re:And another... by Black+Parrot · · Score: 1

      And here's another mystery monolith that appeared in England a few decades ago, but apparently didn't get a proper stream of respect from its discoverers.

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  21. It's more like... by *BBC*PipTigger · · Score: 1

    I'm sorry Dave...
    The correct answer is:
    The Monolith Got Me High
    Thanks for playing! =)

    It's funny that the TMBG add is up top now too! =) TTFN.

    -PipTigger

  22. It's 9 feet tall, not 6 by petrov · · Score: 1

    According to both the AP story and the Seattle Times one, the monolith is 9 feet tall, not 6 as slashdot reports.

    Insert irritated comment about the factual quality of slashdot stories and the corresponding decline of western civilization.

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  23. Re:Can you imagine .. by Kierthos · · Score: 1

    If there is a Communist conspiracy to take out M$, then I will gladly be a Communist.

    Kierthos

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  24. Well yeah, ny GOD man! by stefanlasiewski · · Score: 2
    and did anybody look inside?

    You know what's inside...

    It's full of stars!

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  25. SpeakEasy Cafe & the Monolith by LionKimbro · · Score: 5

    I suspect that the folk behind the SpeakEasy cafe are behind this;

    I walked by the cafe with my girlfriend on New Years [wanting to visit the staff], and they noted that they were closed for New Years Eve and New Years. It said, "Come see us at the Monolith Party!", or something like that.

    They're crazy, interesting, and rich enough to pull off something like this. I'd say: Quite possibly (likely?) it was them..!

    1. Re:SpeakEasy Cafe & the Monolith by TheWhiteOtaku · · Score: 1

      Jeez, that's pretty anti-climatic, to have this mysterious monolith appear and have it all be a promotion for some dumb cafe. I guess it just shows what a mindless society we've become when ever something like this is an advertisement.

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    2. Re:SpeakEasy Cafe & the Monolith by SPYvSPY · · Score: 1

      Especially when you discover that they're a national ISP as well as a cafe. Oh well.

    3. Re:SpeakEasy Cafe & the Monolith by Paradise_Pete · · Score: 1
      have it all be a promotion for some dumb cafe

      Why be so cynical?
      Maybe they just did it because they thought it would be fun. Ya know, like hacking used to be.

    4. Re:SpeakEasy Cafe & the Monolith by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      *sigh* You won't find the name "speakeasy.org" on the Monolith or the planning announcements. If the sign had said "closed for Christmas" would you assume they're sponsoring Santa Claus' flight?

    5. Re:SpeakEasy Cafe & the Monolith by Black+Parrot · · Score: 1

      > Jeez, that's pretty anti-climatic, to have this mysterious monolith appear and have it all be a promotion for some dumb cafe.

      Well, in the movie it turned out to be just a promotion for an intergalactic hotel.

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    6. Re:SpeakEasy Cafe & the Monolith by TheWhiteOtaku · · Score: 1

      Lol yah, that was great. But this is barely better.

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    7. Re:SpeakEasy Cafe & the Monolith by WillAffleck · · Score: 2

      Actually, they're not just a National ISP, not just a cafe, they're:

      a place to do performance art;

      a place to have a band play;

      a place to have an art show;

      a place to host the Green Party of Seattle's Election Night Victory Party on Nov. 5, 2000;

      an intergalactic ISP (entrance behind the bar);

      right next to the coolest pool hall that Seattle ever had;

      and a bunch of troublemakers.

      But it wasn't them, that was just some of the Monolith people from the parade ...

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    8. Re:SpeakEasy Cafe & the Monolith by SPYvSPY · · Score: 1

      How romantic! I'm swooning in my Teva's. Hurry, pour me another half-caf soy latte before pass out from excitement about pool halls and internet cafes.

    9. Re:SpeakEasy Cafe & the Monolith by WillSeattle · · Score: 2

      Hurry, pour me another half-caf soy latte before pass out from excitement about pool halls and internet cafes.

      Sorry, we gave up soy lattees for the Druidic Solstice. You'll have to get a Silk lattee instead.

      That said, Seattle may have Monoliths, but it has fewer Internet cafes than any town in the French West Indies does.

      Not to mention fewer pool halls than in the South of France.

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  26. For the record... by Conspiracy_Of_Doves · · Score: 1

    The monolith in the book wasn't black. It was transparent almost to the point of being invisible.
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    1. Re:For the record... by Zagadka · · Score: 1

      The first monolith in 2001 was transparent, and later became black. It was only black in the movie because it wasn't feasible to haul around a 20' tall slab of glass...

      Incidently, something that reflects no light is black, not nearly invisible... unless it's on a perfectly black background. When the monoliths were black, they were supposed to reflect no light, but again, that wasn't feasible for the movies. (and it probably would've been confusing for viewers too... there would be fewer depth cues due to the lack of different shading)

  27. "Theme song?" by jkujawa · · Score: 2

    The "theme song from 2001" is "Also Sprach Zarathustra", by Richard Strauss.

    Sigh.

    1. Re:"Theme song?" by john.wingfield · · Score: 1

      To be exact, it's the just first movement (quite short) of a nine movement work.

  28. 1 4 9 by gnarly · · Score: 1
    > Are the proportions perfect squares?

    Seattle Times gives dimesions as: "roughly nine feet tall and several feet wide" However a crude estimate of the image suggests that indeed the dimesions are 1x4x9 feet.

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  29. Seattle likes monoliths. by Tairan · · Score: 2
    They have an entire park of them. Meadowdale Playfields has 16 statues in it. I don't know if this is the same place the 2001 monolith is located, but.. A story about the park can be found here. I think it's pretty cool. If I was the mayor / town council of anywhere, I would have done something like this - except a little more permanent, with nice material. Hey - kudos to the person/thing/ that did this one! ( has anyone touched it yet?)

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    1. Re:Seattle likes monoliths. by Poisoned+Coyote · · Score: 1

      The park you mentioned is in Lynwood, which is outside of Seattle by about a 15 minute drive. However, in the very same Magnuson park where the monolith was erected, they have this sculpture made of retired submarine fins

  30. Re:Monilith pics by Skyshadow · · Score: 1
    Gee, the monolith isn't at all what I expected it to be.

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  31. NINE feet tall... not SIX. by Speare · · Score: 5

    That's one short man in the photo if it's only six feet tall.

    Didn't see whether the other axes were FOUR feet by ONE foot, but it looks plausible.

    (In Clarke and Kubrick's films, as well as Clarke's books, the monoliths' measurements were in the ratio of 1 : 4 : 9, the squares of the first three positive integers, presumably as a sign that the creator was aware of the universality of mathematics as a way of communicating between evolved species.)

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    1. Re:NINE feet tall... not SIX. by fm6 · · Score: 3
      Been a while since I read the book, but I seem to recall something about it being necessary for the sides to have that ratio, and that anybody who understood how the monolith worked would see this. Of course, we puny humans are incapable of such insight....

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    2. Re:NINE feet tall... not SIX. by MadEagle · · Score: 2
      Can I resist? Nnnnnnnnnnnnngggggg ... no, I can't, sorry! 1 : 4 : 9 are actually not only the squares of the first three positive integers but also the squares of the first three negative integers.

      MadEagle

      *turns and runs away to avoid being smacked to death with a book about algebra*

    3. Re:NINE feet tall... not SIX. by Black+Parrot · · Score: 1

      > In Clarke and Kubrick's films, as well as Clarke's books, the monoliths' measurements were in the ratio of 1 : 4 : 9, the squares of the first three positive integers, presumably as a sign that the creator was aware of the universality of mathematics as a way of communicating between evolved species.

      Ape #7: Gee, guys. It's half an ape-cubit thick, half an ape-fathom wide, and two apes high.
      Ape #3: Apes are the measure of all things!

      [Two million years pass...]

      Controller #7: Burn in three... two... one... go!
      Controller #3: Roger, there's our delta of three cubits per heartbeat.

      [Two days pass...]

      Lander #7: Slam!
      Controller #3: Damn!

      [In an observation station orbiting Jupiter...]

      Higher Intelligence #7: Damn!
      Higher Intelligence #3: I told you we should have made it a cube. Oh-oh. Just got word that the Yggrsngl are going to try again in Seattle. Wonder what kind of 1337 f0015 they expect to produce at this late date?

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    4. Re:NINE feet tall... not SIX. by Lotek · · Score: 1

      According to the article, it is actually nine feet tall. the second picture (linked up above) seemes to be of the correct proportions.

    5. Re:NINE feet tall... not SIX. by kaphka · · Score: 4
      (In Clarke and Kubrick's films, as well as Clarke's books, the monoliths' measurements were in the ratio of 1 : 4 : 9, the squares of the first three positive integers, presumably as a sign that the creator was aware of the universality of mathematics as a way of communicating between evolved species.)
      Then again, wouldn't an evolved species use metric?
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    6. Re:NINE feet tall... not SIX. by interiot · · Score: 1

      Notice the word ratio? The choice of the units is left to the creator and doesn't matter much. Though a 9cm x 4cm x 1cm monolith might be slightly less impressive.
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    7. Re:NINE feet tall... not SIX. by bellings · · Score: 1

      So... are you saying aliens don't use metric?

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    8. Re:NINE feet tall... not SIX. by jmp100 · · Score: 1

      That would sort of imply that the species in question had ten fingers or tentacles or dicks or whatever they would count on. If you convert 1'x4'x9' into meters, you still have the exact same ratio, just with decimals.

    9. Re:NINE feet tall... not SIX. by kaphka · · Score: 1
      Though a 9cm x 4cm x 1cm monolith might be slightly less impressive.
      Yes, but imagine a 9m x 4m x 1m one.

      The fact remains, though, that the monolith is nine feet tall. If we assume that (within the silly little universe of my comment) the monolith builders actually did use metric, that would mean that the architect actually said, "Okay, let's make this side exactly 2.7431999818948802 meters long..." Seems pretty unlikely. It's safe to conclude that whoever built this monolith was not thinking in metric.

      Also, it was a joke.
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    10. Re:NINE feet tall... not SIX. by Rob+Wilderspin · · Score: 1

      The monolith in 2001 actually extended in many dimensions, with ratios of increasing integer squares into each one. Normal humans could only see the first three, 1:4:9.

    11. Re:NINE feet tall... not SIX. by snookums · · Score: 1


      Acutally, the monolith has 0 size in the fourth dimension, so nobody forgot anything ;)

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    12. Re:NINE feet tall... not SIX. by TheCrayfish · · Score: 1


      Don't you mean the last three negative integers?

      The Crayfish


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    13. Re:NINE feet tall... not SIX. by JCCyC · · Score: 1
      Actually, the monolith has 0 size in the fourth dimension, so nobody forgot anything

      You mean, it only existed during an infinitely small period of time? WOW, the photographer must have SOME reflexes!

  32. Re:That is assuming.. by arseonick · · Score: 1

    And the `holes' would be?

  33. Thirsty by okmar · · Score: 1

    "...but several plastic bottle-cap rings littered the ground, suggesting it was thirsty work for whoever installed it."

    this is mysteriously similar to the findings of cigarette butts on the floor of a bar after closing. Hmmm.


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  34. A.C. Clarke to "Milk This Crap For All It's Worth" by tenzig_112 · · Score: 3
    Arthur C. Clarke has a full schedule his novel's titular year. He'll rake in enough cash this year to buy a whole closet full of surongs.

    The new commercial for Ford:

    The David Bowman look-alike floats up to the monolith in his pod. SFX: breathing.

    "My God ... it's full of cars."

    Voice Over: "That's right! We're clearing out the over-stock for the 2002's!"

    full story

    Ridiculopaths R us

  35. Yahoo Pic by ChaoticPup · · Score: 1

    Ummm, there was already a link to a pic on Yahoo. Different from the Seattle Times, BTW.

    Click the "Photos" link above the article, and scroll down a couple pics.

    Or, if you want a direct link, click this (no, it's not that damn goat thing).

    -- CP

  36. Wrong year by El+Puerco+Loco · · Score: 2

    Didn't they find the monolith in 1999 on the moon (i assume before the moon was blown out of earth's orbit by that massive nuclear waste explosion) in the movie? apparently, someone was just too lazy to pay attention to details. I mean come on, we've know how to get stuff to the moon since the late sixties. nobody puts in any effort these days.

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    1. Re:Wrong year by ForceOfWill · · Score: 1

      In the book(s), there was more than one monolith, and I think they found one in Africa (presumably the same one the monkeys found). And besides, no one would have seen it on the moon, and no one would have gotten it if it came in 1999 (well maybe a few people with nothing better to do... ;)

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  37. Seattle likes public art. by Speare · · Score: 2

    Seattle has one of the most progressive government programs I've ever heard: they decree that 1% of the annual budget must be spent on public art. Statues, murals, sculptures of all sorts, everywhere you go. It's really pretty cool to have real art that's not hidden away. (Even if one or two particular pieces don't tickle your fancy.)

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    1. Re:Seattle likes public art. by Begin2See · · Score: 1

      Not too far from Seattle, in Silverdale, WA, is monument park (website here). This shows a lot of other big black monoliths left over from the cold war.

    2. Re:Seattle likes public art. by karmma · · Score: 1
      Public art is different from publicly-funded art. Public art is fine. I think the monolith is actually quite cool. But I'm glad I didn't pay for it.

      The government has no business spending my money on art. If I want art, I'll buy it. Or if some patron wants to buy it or create it and put it on display, then I may or may not look at it -- my choice.

      Life determines the amount of discretionary spending in which I may indulge. After food, shelter and clothing, I should choose how the rest of my money is spent. And if it is to be spent on art - then it should be spent on art that I enjoy.

    3. Re:Seattle likes public art. by Speare · · Score: 2

      Public art is different from publicly-funded art. Public art is fine. I think the monolith is actually quite cool. But I'm glad I didn't pay for it.

      If you're in Seattle, your tax revenues ARE going to the art funds. Maybe you DID pay for that monolith; the artist hasn't been revealed yet.

      The government has no business spending my money on art. If I want art, I'll buy it. Or if some patron wants to buy it or create it and put it on display, then I may or may not look at it -- my choice.

      Certainly a valid opinion, but here's mine. Cities are communities, and taxes go to build all aspects of the community. That means zoning to keep industrial waste more-or-less out of your front yard, fixing potholes, providing parks and recreational areas, and yep, you guessed it, public art. So that's publically funded public art. And if you don't like the 'foo' at 'Baz & Main', then write a letter to your city council. Personally, if you don't like a few surprises in art, I'd rather you just find some other community where you can be a curmudgeon to your heart's content.

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    4. Re:Seattle likes public art. by lucidvein · · Score: 1

      Well, we liked public art until recently. Now we're a "world class" city and find it more suitable to fund privately held ventures like the sports stadiums and department store facelifts. Seattle has fallen behind what once was the leading edge of community supported arts. Other cities (San Francisco, San Jose, Federal Way WA) now have 2% or more for the arts programs modeled after ours.

      Not that we aren't trying. I think the money just went to everyones head.

      More info can be found in the March 2000 issue of Metropolitan Living.

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  38. Re:Link to picture - 9ft? by Sebastopol · · Score: 1

    Is it 9ft tall, but is 3' of it underground? perhaps that is what keeps it from falling over and squashing the little child in the photo... not that that wouldn't be cool... but still.
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  39. Damn it, we're all doomed! by jayhawk88 · · Score: 1

    A monolith appears, and here we are, with not one computer virus dangerous enough that we have to keep it on a secret vault on the moon. Honestly, the worst virus we have now simply delete a few files, corrupts some Jpegs, or maybe emails itself to others. How are we going to stop this monolith when it tries to blow us all up without an ultra-dangerous virus?

    Oh well, we're lucky in one regard: it appeared in Seattle. If any new viruses are developed capable of taking out the monolith, chances are they'll have something to do with software out of Redmond.

    1. Re:Damn it, we're all doomed! by Cironian · · Score: 1
      Honestly, the worst virus we have now simply delete a few files, corrupts some Jpegs, or maybe emails itself to others. How are we going to stop this monolith when it tries to blow us all up without an ultra-dangerous virus?

      Somewhere aboard the mothership of an alien invasion fleet headed for earth:

      Important Alien: "Finally we have arrived. Prepare our fighters for launch!"

      Not-so-important Alien: "Umm, sir? Remember that big JPEG showing all our attack plans?"

      IA: "Yes? What about it?"

      NSIA: "Well, I cant find it anymore... Ever since I looked at those mails telling me how to Conquer Worlds Fast And Pick Up Antarean Chicks."

      IA: "Well, you made a backup of such an important file of course?"

      NSIA: "Umm..."

  40. What were the measurements? by EXTomar · · Score: 2

    I can't be the real deal if its proportional dimensions aren't perfect squares(1x4x9). Anyone actually take the measurements of the thing?

    Seriously, this is pretty cool move on who ever did this(especially if it was God or ET). They obviously like A Clarke's work.

  41. Someone over at CNN got it by grumbly · · Score: 1

    Check out where CNN filed the story. While its not exactly your normal technology sotry given enought time it might be.

    1. Re:Someone over at CNN got it by generic-man · · Score: 1

      What's even weirder is the fact that Reuters (which originally wrote the article) put it in the "Politics" section. How is this political? Maybe they should put it in Washington, D.C., to make Dubya evolve.

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  42. Humanity needed extra help by The+Salamander · · Score: 1

    They knew we weren't going to find the one on the moon any time soon, so they sent this one to help us along.

  43. Re:holes by DFaraway · · Score: 1

    We do see evolution today, that's part of how we know about it. If you want to start from the idea that you're going to prove the existence of God from your belief in God, you're already too screwed up in the logic department to be taken seriously. Read some real biology, why don't you? Try the National Council for Science Education -- not whatever idiot medieval superstition you happen to buy into. And of course "descendage" isn't a word. How on earth do you expect to be taken seriously if you can barely write your own language?

  44. Wrong height by BMonger · · Score: 1

    It's 9' tall I believe... not 6' as stated above...

  45. Has Taco learned nothing? by piku · · Score: 1

    Asking the Slashdot crowd if they have any pictures? Why not just make slashdot.org redirect to goatse.cx?

  46. several yahoo news photos of the seattle monolith by trb · · Score: 2

    here's the collection of yahoo pics of the monolith.

  47. 2001 meets Apple meets 1984 by aozilla · · Score: 2

    On January 24 Datacloud will introduce JANNA. And you'll see why 2001 won't be like '2001'.

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  48. You know, it's not JUST "theme from 2001" by D.+Mann · · Score: 3
    Denny Sargent couldn't resist humming the theme to ''2001: A Space Odyssey,'' when he walked up to touch the imposing object, which stands on a grassy knoll in Magnuson Park like the movie's enigmatic extraterrestrial guardian.


    I wish people would realize that it's not JUST the "theme from 2001," it's a piece of music called "Also Sprach Zarathrusta" by Richard Strauss.
    1. Re:You know, it's not JUST "theme from 2001" by SPYvSPY · · Score: 1

      It's also a collection of notes played in a particular sequence at certain intervals. Is he supposed to mention that as well?

    2. Re:You know, it's not JUST "theme from 2001" by Greyfox · · Score: 4

      Personally I think the Monkees theme song ("Hey-Hey We're the Monkees") would have been a much better fit for the opening sequence...

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    3. Re:You know, it's not JUST "theme from 2001" by istartedi · · Score: 2

      Oh brother. Next thing they'll probably try to tell us that the shuttle docking music was actually written about a river or something.

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    4. Re:You know, it's not JUST "theme from 2001" by Paradise_Pete · · Score: 1
      Well put. Much better than the smartass comment I was going to make.

    5. Re:You know, it's not JUST "theme from 2001" by Black+Parrot · · Score: 2

      > I wish people would realize that it's not JUST the "theme from 2001," it's a piece of music called "Also Sprach Zarathrusta" by Richard Strauss.

      It's also the soundtrack to about 32,000 commercials I've seen in the last 32 years.

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    6. Re:You know, it's not JUST "theme from 2001" by Raunchola · · Score: 2

      Yeah, and it's also Ric Flair's entrance music :)

      Your point?

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    7. Re:You know, it's not JUST "theme from 2001" by jje · · Score: 1

      ...and it was also in The Incredible Machine (can't remember whether it was 1 or 2) in a level where you had to build a machine to fire a rocket. Of course there it was done as MIDI in the age of FM synthesis [shiver!].

      http://mp3.com/jje

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  49. The actual creators of the Seattle Monolith... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5


    ...are at http://www.isupportthemonolith.org/. No joke. These really are the people. ;-)

    This project has been ongoing for months in the Seattle area. On New Year's Eve, a parade/protest/whatever was organized from Capitol Hill in Seattle (the "Bohemian" Neighborhood) up and down its main street and then into downtown Seattle. The parade was in support of the monolith that was going to be emplaced at an unknown location. We were supposed to have a wooden faux monolith with us but the cops confiscated it. The real monolith was put into place while this was going on.

    1. Re:The actual creators of the Seattle Monolith... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1
      The parade was fun (though the cops in riot gear front and center on Pike St weren't the most politically astute choice for Mayor "Not a Wimp" Schell). Protest signs included
      • STOP THE BAD
      • BLAH BLAH BLAH
      • EVERYTHING'S FINE!
      • HAS ANYONE SEEN MY KITTY?
      • NOBODY MOVE! I DROPPED A CONTACT!
      • MY GOD! IT'S FULL OF SHIT!
      • IS THIS THING ON?
      • I CAN'T FEEL MY LEGS

      One of my girlfriends reads seattle-announce@burningman.com, and here's the announcement:

      IT'S TIME TO EVOLVE!
      Sunday, December 31
      Gather 9 p.m., Seattle Central Community College

      Last year, Some People gathered on Capitol Hill to celebrate the dawning of the new millenium. They had built the Bridge to the 21st Century and began marching it about, aimless only in the sense that no one was in charge. Some People brought their friends, wore stilts and strange costumes, made music with buckets, ate fire, drank booze, sang sweet and screamed loud, waved nonsense banners high and proud, and made sure they were alive. By the time they all started dancing down Pine, Some People were several hundred strong, filling the street from curb to curb and wondering what was going to happen. More People joined them every minute. The police blocked streets FOR them, not against them.

      This year, it's time to evolve. We're going to carry a monolith through the streets of Seattle, and as 2001 is born in our time zone, call to the aliens with our monolith's glorious light and our own joyous noise. Join us, with your costumes, instruments, aliveness, friends, noise, and sense of adventure.

    2. Re:The actual creators of the Seattle Monolith... by BigBlockMopar · · Score: 2

      isupportthemonolith.org seems to be registered in Seattle... :)

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    3. Re:The actual creators of the Seattle Monolith... by tesserae · · Score: 2
      Yep, it's interesting: if you go to that http://www.isupportthemonolith.org/ site, it has a link to "http://www.iopposethemonolith.org"... which resolves to

      http://www.speakeasy.org/~priapus/monolith.htm

      Nope, it's not associated with Speakeasy... heh, heh...

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    4. Re:The actual creators of the Seattle Monolith... by JudeFly · · Score: 1

      Now everyone knows who to sue when it topples crushes someone!!!

    5. Re:The actual creators of the Seattle Monolith... by Jace+of+Fuse! · · Score: 1

      We know the actual creators aren't Microsoft.

      It's been standing for 3 days and that kind of uptime doesn't come out of anything from Microsoft.

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  50. It's all fun and games... by centauri · · Score: 1

    ... until it tips over onto someone.

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  51. Re:holes by Jazu · · Score: 1

    Australopithecines(sp?), Homo Habilis, Homo Erectus, Neanderthals. There's no line of descendage, but there is a line of ancestry! And there have been many fossils! You've never heard of Lucy? Or do you think she was planted in Africa by satan?

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  52. hey thats not a monolith! by Cookie+Monster · · Score: 5

    It's just an unfinished Domino peice.
    (or it will be soon after a geek gets
    their hands on some black n white paint)

    It's only a matter of time :)

    Other tricks to do... glue a monkey toy to the top, make it output funny noises randomly, etc.

  53. Just don't forget! by Pope · · Score: 2

    Jan 12 is HAL's birthday!

    PS: None of the monoliths in the movie were 1:4:9 because they didn't look right on camera.

    Pope

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    1. Re:Just don't forget! by Mr.+Slippery · · Score: 1
      Jan 12 is HAL's birthday!
      Mine too. (If you can't buy me a drink in person, you could always send me the price of one via PayPal. B-)

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  54. Re:holes by Tony-A · · Score: 1

    Man did not evolve from monkeys. Both man and monkeys evolved from a common ancestor, something like a three-toed tree sloth, IIRC.

  55. Boris the Sprinkler new years show by nosegoblin · · Score: 1

    I went to this local show for new years, and the lead singer of this one band, who is always dressing weird, dressed like the monolith from 2001 and played the whole show like that. To make this clear, he jumped around on stage for about an hour in a cardboard box painted black! Just thought someone might find that useless piece of information interesting.

    -NG

  56. Proof at last! by spagthorpe · · Score: 1
    I've accused the idiot programmers at M$ being a bunch of hairy, imbecilic, incompetent apes before, who couldn't even use the tools they had around them. This just proves it!

    WWJD -- What Would Jimi Do?

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  57. Re:Arthur C Clarke. by ColdGrits · · Score: 1

    wtf?

    Seattle isn't that far from Sri Lanka?!?!

    Have you ever actually SEEN a map of the world?

    Sri Lanka is nearly half way round the globe from Seattle!!!

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  58. Message from the monolith... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    ALL THESE CITIES ARE YOURS EXCEPT SEATTLE USE THEM TOGETHER USE THEM IN PEACE Obviously the monolith knew about the WTO riots :)

  59. Prepare for the end! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3

    The end of high prices!

    Seriously, does this remind anyone of a Simpsons episode? ;)

  60. It's true size revealed... by squidfood · · Score: 2

    Well, I just walked down with my trusty tape measure (can see the hill from my office building) and the official size:

    1.0ft x 4.0ft x 8.5+ft

    My ruler goes to 1/16 inches and it was accurate to that level---don't have micrometers to examine further. It was buried slightly at an angle, so I couldn't determine the height.

    It's oriented N/S, but with the sun at its current height there's at least one "sunrise over monolith" place to stand.

    I would have dug it up to determine the height, but there was a crowd there, mostly dog-walkers. I got involved with a conversation with Fido and Rex about the trival 12th-dimensional spacetime rotation required to unify...oh, that's right, you haven't touched it yet.

    1. Re:It's true size revealed... by xpenguin+dude · · Score: 1

      Well on yahoo they say its 9 feet tall, so it's gotta be 1x4x9


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    2. Re:It's true size revealed... by Controllers · · Score: 1

      All I want to say is thank you for finding out the real size of the monolith. It seams that the media doesn't care about the ratio but we sure do!! Thanks again. JNS

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  61. Typical. by SPYvSPY · · Score: 1

    Seattlites are so provincial. They have a talent for priding themselves on very unremarkable things with an earnestness and arrogance previously reserved for the French.

    You call that tin can propped in the midst of that cow pasture a monolith? Come visit me in New York City sometime. I'll show you some monoliths.

    1. Re:Typical. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      New Yorkers are so provincial. They have a talent for priding themselves on very unremarkable things with an earnestness and arrogance previously reserved for Seattlites.

    2. Re:Typical. by FatHogByTheAss · · Score: 1
      Absolutely. We get realy sick and tired of people moving out here and then doing nothing but bitch about how much better it was wherever the hell they just came from.

      But you stay out there in New Youk. It's better there. You'd hate it here. Realy.

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  62. Re:Okay, time for the nitro... by sqlrob · · Score: 1
    If man evolved (and is evolving), then it is a fact that one race or another is superior.

    Guess what, one race IS superior to another.

    However, it depends on conditions. And that is made almost moot with all the advances that man had made.

    For example, mister caucasian. Go spend some time in subsaharan Africa. Good chance you'll be toast. Now try it with AC and sunblock.

    Now, if you mean morally superior, not a chance.

  63. Me = Dumbass by TheWhiteOtaku · · Score: 1

    I'm an idiot. A promotion for an ISP. Whatever. It's not really the point.

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    1. Re:Me = Dumbass by jidar · · Score: 1

      What did you think it was going to be aliens? Of course someone did it as art or a promotion, what difference does it make though? It's cool in and over itself.

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    2. Re:Me = Dumbass by TheWhiteOtaku · · Score: 1

      I was just kinda hoping it would be something other than a corporation that did this. You know like an artist or something? Someone who won't reap financial rewards.

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    3. Re:Me = Dumbass by FatHogByTheAss · · Score: 1
      What, so artists should work for free?

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    4. Re:Me = Dumbass by TheWhiteOtaku · · Score: 1

      No, but it should be artists, and not a bunch of scheming marketeers.

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    5. Re:Me = Dumbass by SPYvSPY · · Score: 1

      No need to self-depricate. I just discovered that they are one in the same yesterday. BTW, I like your nick.

    6. Re:Me = Dumbass by LionKimbro · · Score: 3

      Somehow, I don't think you've ever met the SpeakEasy crew...

      I find it rather laughable to believe that this is "scheming marketeers"...

      The SpeakEasy staff are the most environmentally (both social and ecological environments) conscious people I have ever met.

      Their cafe is an incredible place.

    7. Re:Me = Dumbass by Fishstick · · Score: 2

      No, but I had the mental image of a bunch of students doing this as a prank. A couple of art students working on this for a few months and then someone borrowing their dad's 1/2 ton and a bunch of guys driving out to the park in the middle of the night to plant this thing.

      I guess it is not the end of the world if it was the work of an internet cafe or something, just kind of takes the gleam out of my eye as I chuckle about someone just going out and pulling this _cool_ prank vs some commercial enterprise doing this for publicity (if that is in fact their motivation)

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  64. More pictures: by Egorn · · Score: 1
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  65. Its 9 feet not 6 feet by bdigit · · Score: 1

    "SEATTLE (AP) - A 9-foot-tall steel monolith mysteriously appeared in a city park, just in time for 2001." One after another with the mistakes, how bout we start reading the links before we accepted these articles cmdrtaco?

  66. Re:A.C. Clarke to "Milk This Crap For All It's Wor by munehiro · · Score: 1

    maybe a commercial for MicroSoft should sound like this:

    "My god... It's full of bugs!"
    Voice Over: "Yes, and they are copyrighted too"

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  67. requisite mastercard ad parody by griffjon · · Score: 2

    --Cost of steel and welding supplies: $1,245.
    --Cost of labour on New Years Eve: $724
    --Cost of having an entire city gape blankly at a hunk of steel, without a bone in sight: priceless.

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    1. Re:requisite mastercard ad parody by jidar · · Score: 1

      Oh man am I sick of priceless parodies.

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    2. Re:requisite mastercard ad parody by m00t · · Score: 1

      Actually, I think the labor was free. I'll have to ask how much the supplies were, I'll post it when I get home... ;)

    3. Re:requisite mastercard ad parody by vibrisa · · Score: 1

      From the horse's mouth -- cost is about $300 total.

  68. Re:Okay, time for the nitro... by Ig0r · · Score: 1

    Actually, just so you know, a more diverse spece is more likely to survive a devistating disaster.
    A "pure" spece would be extremely prone to plague and genetic diseases (like how hemophilia was so common in inbreeding royal families).

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  69. quote by LordXarph · · Score: 1

    the quote "If monolith software weren't based in seattel, I would be worried" came from Taiki. I included it because if it didn't have a somewhat witty comment, it would not have been posted. -Lx?

  70. Monolith in Seattle. by problah · · Score: 1

    I thought people would like it. Thank the Anarchists.

  71. Department of Redundancy Department. by Ando[evilmedic] · · Score: 1

    Thank you for being the ninth person to restate this fact.

    If you are going to post, please read what has already been said.

    - Ando

  72. alright! 9 ft already!! by LordXarph · · Score: 1

    I knew I was going to screw something up, glad I'm not with NASA.

    Oh wait, they can't measure either.

    My bad.

  73. Gee, what happens in 2010? by RAruler · · Score: 1

    My guess is, someone decides to turn Jupiter into a sun, just for kicks.

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  74. Monolith Picture by theheadandfriends · · Score: 1

    I didn't bother to look around to see if anyone else had posted one, but there's a pic of it on one of the local news sites. Here.

  75. Particle man... by TeldakSS · · Score: 1

    Hey! I have an idea! West Seattle has some sculptures as you drive into it, and they're people walking on logs, aptly name "Walking on logs." They dress them up.....Mayyyyybe...Dress the monolith up? Particle man....

  76. Are there geeks in Seattle? by small_dick · · Score: 2

    One has to wonder...I have yet to see a mpeg of a bunch of geeks in ape suits tossing bones around this thing.

    In a more geeky locale, I bet we would have pics of such an event by now.

    What? No costume shops in Seattle? Or just no geeks?



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    1. Re:Are there geeks in Seattle? by FatHogByTheAss · · Score: 1
      No geeks. We are eminently cool, and would kick sand in your face, were there a sandy beach here.

      Also, we're very handsome.

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    2. Re:Are there geeks in Seattle? by Riktov · · Score: 1

      Oh, there are plenty of geeks. They need to get down to Archie McPhee's on the double, that's all.

  77. nasdaq by rajinikanth · · Score: 1

    the monolith sits on top of where nasdaq was buried. my stocks are all govindaa govindaa!

  78. SpeakEasy Cafe? Nope. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3

    As an employee of Speakeasy, I can safely say that the monolith was not a promotion item, nor is Speakeasy affiliated with the monolith or its appearance. A number of us did attend a certain parade/public revelry/gathering that was to have a wooden monolith replica burnt in effigy at its culmination. Hence the sign.

    1. Re:SpeakEasy Cafe? Nope. by TheWhiteOtaku · · Score: 1

      So it was Monolith software. I thought so.

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    2. Re:SpeakEasy Cafe? Nope. by Poisoned+Coyote · · Score: 1

      As another employee of Speakeasy.net, I can verify that this is not any kind of promotion or publicity stunt for the company. Also, I highly doubt that Monolith productions had anything to do with it either.

  79. Re:Arthur C Clarke. by Paradise_Pete · · Score: 1
    I think he was being sarcastic.

  80. A monolith appeared and... by LordOfYourPants · · Score: 1

    1 million monkeys logged onto their 1 million computers to compose 1 million comments about the article.

  81. Re:Canadian know by 10Brett-T · · Score: 1

    1 is generally not considered prime because it only has one factor.

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  82. The Music by FrankDrebin · · Score: 1

    ...Particle Man by They Might Be Giants...

    ...the theme to 2001: A Space Odyssey...

    The classical piece is called Also Sprach Zarathustra by Richard Strauss. check here

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  83. SI by voidware · · Score: 1

    you idiots this is 2001, we use the metric system now!

  84. Big deal - we've had one in Boston since 1976 by drwho · · Score: 1
    Yup...I've even seen some monkey's chucking bones.

    MonoLith and I don't mean ML.ORG

  85. Correction... by Schwarzchild · · Score: 2
    it's a piece of music called "Also Sprach Zarathrusta" by Richard Strauss.

    Actually, that's "..Zarathustra" and not "...Zarathrusta". :)

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    1. Re:Correction... by jafac · · Score: 3

      heh, Also Sprach Zarathrusta sounds like the name of a highbrow porno flick.

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    2. Re:Correction... by biglig2 · · Score: 1

      More appropriate for the docking scene surely - "Captain, fire the Zara-thrusta's"

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  86. Incredible by derrickh · · Score: 1
    This the the ultimate prank. It's been 40 years in the making. I'm gonna do the same thing next.....damn.

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  87. not a monolith by jafac · · Score: 2

    "lith" is latin for stone.

    We know it's made of stainless steel, not stone therefore it's not a monolith.

    Which begs the question - who assembled it? IIRC, welding stainless steel requires some special equipment - TIG welder, instead of your typical arc welder or oxy-aceteline setup. Okay, I guess you can pick up a TIG welder at Ace hardware. . .

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    1. Re:not a monolith by cthugha · · Score: 1
      "lith" is latin for stone.

      We know the Linux kernel is made of something called "machine code", which is formed by artificial processes from a substance called "source code", not stone, therefore, why do some people insist on calling their kernels "monolithic"?

    2. Re:not a monolith by Stultus · · Score: 1

      Sorry, "lith" is from the greek "lithos" for stone.

      Greek rocks!

  88. You people will mod up ANYTHING. by Ando[evilmedic] · · Score: 1

    I appeal to you moderators, to stop the fiasco of redundancy. Whoever gave this a

    (2, Insightful)

    is going straight to hell after they're finished their measley existence here.

    - Ando

  89. Monolith = Lithtech by TheWhiteOtaku · · Score: 1

    Hmmmm, maybe it's a promotion for Monolith Software's Lithtech engine, since the only thing it can render without crashing is a big untextured block.

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  90. The Bomb! by FatHogByTheAss · · Score: 1
    Mabey they should see how long it takes to get SPD out to beat it into submission.

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    1. Re:The Bomb! by WillAffleck · · Score: 2

      Maybe they should see how long it takes to get SPD out to beat it into submission.

      Nah, first they have to surround it with four squads of police officers, tear gas it, block off all the exits, and then take away it's rights of free speech.

      Then they can bring in the robot tank they bought. Gotta justify that big waste of money somehow.

      After all, it might be a bomb.

      But, I have a simpler solution - check the version number - if it's a point zero release, it's a bomb, if it's a point one or higher it's mostly harmless.

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  91. Why feet? by xant · · Score: 5

    Wouldn't an advanced alien species measures things in meters? Or have they not converted over yet, either?
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    1. Re:Why feet? by RovingSlug · · Score: 1

      It doesn't matter. The object's second and third largest dimensions are 4 and 9 times the length of the smallest dimension, respectively - regardless of the particular units. Meters are just as arbitrary as feet, anyway. For humans, meters are nice because the system of measurement they're commonly used in exploit powers of 10 (mega, kilo, milli, micro, etc). But, there's nothing to say that base-10 is intuitive to aliens, who probably don't have 10 fingers and toes.

    2. Re:Why feet? by bellings · · Score: 2

      So, are you saying that if the aliens had three fingers on each hand and foot, they'd use the imperial measurements of three + three + three + three = twelve inches to a foot? And three feet to a yard?

      Because, then, you see, for the aliens, feet would be nice since they exploit the power of three, and base three might be intuitive to aliens. Wow. I'm glad we haven't converted in the US yet. We're getting ready for our alien masters!

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    3. Re:Why feet? by Bush+Pig · · Score: 1

      Actually, metres _aren't_ entirely arbitrary - IIRC the metre was originally intended to be some tiny negative power of ten fraction of the length of the meridian of Paris (only they fucked it up).

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    4. Re:Why feet? by MadAhab · · Score: 1
      Damn that's funny.

      I wish I had points to give but I don't. Though it might be even better if they had three fingers on each of their four hands.

      Boss of nothin. Big deal.
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    5. Re:Why feet? by BinxBolling · · Score: 1
      Wouldn't an advanced alien species measures things in meters? Or have they not converted over yet, either?

      I know you're joking, but several people have made comments like this, and there seems to be this lurking assumption that the metric system is somehow more "rational" or less arbitrary than other systems.

      Why would an alien species use the metric system? A meter is defined as "the distance traveled by light in a vacuum during a period of 1/299,792,458th of a second", and a second, in turn, is defined as "the duration of 9,192,631,770 periods of the radiation corresponding to the transition between the two hyperfine levels of the ground state of the cesium-133 atom".

      Now aren't those some weird constants in those definitions? That's because the original definition of the meter and second are actually "one ten-millionth of the distance from the north pole to the equator, along the meridian passing through Paris", and "1/86,400th of a solar day", respectively. The definitions based on physical constants were only made later. To an advanced spacefaring civilization, basing a unit of length some physical attribute of a particular planet is just as silly and provincial as basing it on the physical attribute of a particular person (i.e. the king).

      The only non-arbitrary part of the metric system is the factor-of-10 relationship between different units of the same type. And that's still a little arbitrary: A factor of 10 makes sense to us because we use the decimal system, which is something that, in turn, we do because we have 10 fingers. To an alien race that has 16 tentacles, it's a bit inconvenient.

      In measurement, what's important is that everyone use the same standard. That is the primary reason to go with metric: most other people already do. The intrinsic qualities of the system are far less important.

    6. Re:Why feet? by Arielholic · · Score: 1

      No, alien species measure things in 'beerbottlethrows'. But actually, this doesn't really matter, as it's only about the 1:4:9 relationship... I do wonder, however, why alien species keep referring to this solarsystem as 'Sol' without ever speaking to a human before...

      -Iwan

    7. Re:Why feet? by lazybeam · · Score: 1
      A meter is a device that measures things, not a unit of measure!

      One should measure things in metres. That makes much more sense.

      Besides, a metre is based on a measurement of Earth (although miscalculated) so would not have the same length. Imperial units are also derived from "sensible" origins, but they do not go as easily between units (eg how many square feet in an acre; how many square metres in a hectare)
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    8. Re:Why feet? by Fishstick · · Score: 2
      >of the length of the meridian of Paris

      Nope, you don't hardly get any less arbitrary than that, do ya? ;-) A unit of measure based on 1/4 of the circumference of the Earth isn't going to be any less arbitrary to ET than the length of some Royal English Dude's, erm... foot.

      "The distance from the pole to the equator was divided into ten million parts to constitute the meter "

      Now, if you came up with a measure that was based on the wavelength of light emitted by Hydrogen fusion or some other such pan-galactic standard, then you could argue non-arbitrary! :-)

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    9. Re:Why feet? by JCCyC · · Score: 1
      Because if it was 1x4x9 m^3 it would be fucking huge, fall over in the wind and crush somebody's dog.

      Well, it seems it can crush somebody's dog the way it is. If it was 9m high it could crush Bill Gates, Steve Ballmer and a couple of grunge bands in one fell swoop.

  92. Ok it was me. by RainbowSix · · Score: 1

    Ok, it was me. I was hoping it would fall on somebody, but we glued it in too tightly.. bah humbug
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  93. argh! by syrinx · · Score: 1
    I so submitted this earlier.

    Oh well. I wonder if the monolith has a ratio of 1x4x9..

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  94. Actually.... by Rakefighter · · Score: 1

    Mololith Software is based out of Bellevue, Washington...a reasonably distant suburb of Seattle. I should know, I work for the company that sells them their workstations and various parts. :) (www.computerstop.com, for those of you who doubt)

    int break_spirit()
    {
    crush_nutz(left_nut,right_nut);
    return(1);
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  95. Bellevue is Hell by FatHogByTheAss · · Score: 1
    Seattle is a nice city with some cuture.

    Bellevue is a concocted strip mall full of souless yuppie scumbags in oversized SUVs sipping lattes and yacking on celphones.

    If you work there, I pity you. If you live there, I hate you.

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    1. Re:Bellevue is Hell by Rakefighter · · Score: 1

      Geez...don't get judgemental or anything. You're right about the strip malls...Bellevue is home to the yuppies. But you shouldn't hate me because I live here with them. I live here because it's convienient, and cheap (I have two room-mates)...not because I'm a yuppie. Be more careful about who you pass judgement on, and why. It could help you some day.

      int break_spirit()
      {
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    2. Re:Bellevue is Hell by FatHogByTheAss · · Score: 1
      Judgemental is my thing!

      I'll take your word that yer not a yuppie scumbag, but I've got my eye on ya. One word about upgrading the Explorer, and yer outta here.

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    3. Re:Bellevue is Hell by hyperstation · · Score: 1

      i'd rather live in white trash renton than bellevue...hehe i used to work at casa d's taqueria on bellevue way

    4. Re:Bellevue is Hell by FatHogByTheAss · · Score: 1
      I be an Enumclaw High School Graduate.

      WooHoo!

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    5. Re:Bellevue is Hell by Rakefighter · · Score: 1

      Genuine Sammamish High Nerd/Outcast here... ;) `Course I make more money than all those people, now....

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    6. Re:Bellevue is Hell by ogre2112 · · Score: 1

      You nailed it right on with the Explorer thing . . SOunds like a guy I work with.

  96. Re:Canadian know by po_boy · · Score: 2

    um, I was pretty much worried about the 4 and 9.

  97. Infernal Noise Brigade by newandcreative · · Score: 1

    I was part of the march before and part of the party after words. I'm sure it was Members of the Infernal Noise Brigade(former !Tchkung! members) and local Anarchists who setup the Monolith, they where keeping it secret for fear of being busted by the police. I heard they police and confiscated it, but it's nice to here that they got it up.

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  98. Thank-you by Ando[evilmedic] · · Score: 1

    Thanks

    - Ando

    1. Re:Thank-you by bugg · · Score: 1
      Five of your past six posts have been nothing but criticizing posts. Stop whining and start contributing.

      As for the mistake issue, I do admit that I don't need it pointed out to me by everyone on slashdot that CmdrTaco fouled up, but the easier solution would be for the slashdot editors to do some minor proofreading; mistakes like this could be made much more rare; if you don't want posters posting without at least reading the article, then you shouldn't want editiors doing the same.

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    2. Re:Thank-you by TheLink · · Score: 1

      You're being redundant yourself.

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  99. I bet this was... by Barbarian · · Score: 2

    I wouldn't be surprised if this was local engineering students pulling this off---if so, it would be in the tradition of the finest hackers as started by MIT.

  100. AP Photo of Monolith by John+Mulligan · · Score: 1
    You can check out the AP Photo of the monolith. The caption reads:
    Joy Mallory and her daughter, Nakesha Beith, 4, test the sturdiness of a mystery monolith as other curious spectators circle the 9-foot-tall steel sculpture which stands on a grassy noll in Magnuson Park, Tuesday, Jan. 2, 2001, in Seattle. No one knows who installed the sculpture, reminscent of the structure in the landmark science fiction movie, "2001 : "A Space Odyssey''. The unmarked sculpture appears to have been put in place on New Year's Eve. There is no plaque or other clue to the sculptor. (AP Photo/CherylHatch)
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  101. installed anonymously? by marnold · · Score: 1

    What if it fell over and crushed someone? Who would I sue?

  102. A great pic of it! by OtakuMan · · Score: 2
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  103. monolith burger by druglord0 · · Score: 1

    anyone remember monolith burger from Space Quest 3?

  104. Re:A.C. Clarke to "Milk This Crap For All It's Wor by franksbiyatch · · Score: 1
    Obviously you do think it warranted a response since you did just that.

    And who is "we?" Are you representing the ./ community or the various entities that reside in your alleged mind?

    bwahahaha... rancor and divisiveness generate hits!

  105. Re:1x4x9... by domc · · Score: 1

    I'd love to see what your girlfriend's hoo-haa looks like. Oh, I forgot, you don't have one.

    domc

  106. Is it magnetic? by raygundan · · Score: 2

    Has anybody bothered to check if it's magnetic or not? Sounds like it's made of steel, so it's possible-- but I'm curious to see how far they went.

  107. Why I love living here by zzyzx · · Score: 2
    1. Re:Why I love living here by ogre2112 · · Score: 1

      Starmen.. Woooooo :)

      Thanks for the pics

  108. Hmmm... by zhensel · · Score: 1

    /me notices glaring similarities between AP article at yahoo! (http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/ap/20010102/us/monol ith_mystery_1.html) and Seattle Times article (http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/cgi-bin/WebObjec ts/SeattleTimes.woa/wa/gotoArticle?zsection_id=268 466359&text_only=0&slug=mono02m&document_id=134257 598). Now, why again did they bother to teach us the evils of plaigarism in middle school when it is clearly practiced in the real world? Of course, I could be wrong and Mr. Higgins is just an AP writer in addition to his job in Seattle and he chose to hack apart his story and take a second cut at it to make a more terse version better suited to the AP's qualities. Then again... who knows?

  109. Re:Arthur C Clarke. by Dwarth · · Score: 1

    I'm sure he was :o)

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  110. Re:holes by TheLink · · Score: 1

    Allegedly slowly.

    We don't even know if evolution goes fast or slow.

    I'm inclined to believe it's more usual for it to go in spurts.

    e.g. when the females and males suddenly decide that "hey that looks sexy/cool/good" things can change quite rapidly.

    Cheerio,
    Link.

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  111. public access supports the monolith by lucidvein · · Score: 3
    I read this comment earlier today and thought for sure it would get moderated above zero...

    The important information... www.isupportthemonolith.org/


    Anyway, Deface the Nation, a public access news show which lampoons the media has been promoting this since the anniversary of WTO/N30. Great show if you're in the area. The soundman for their DTN was driving around with a mock monolith on his car until the police stopped him and then tried to confiscate his hammer.

    We need a bit more humor in this city again. It's getting a little too serious. So cheers to all involved.
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    1. Re:public access supports the monolith by WillAffleck · · Score: 2

      Nah, if we get a sense of humor, noone on slashdot will get the point that we had a parade with the monolith at 9pm on New Year's to mess with people's minds and then put it up somewhere else for the same reason.

      Just like we did when we had Santarchy, where me and some of my friends (big pic with fire) rampaged thru Seattle dressed as Santas. Some more pics were at Santa John's website.

      It's a joke, people!

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  112. Seattle Times workers are on strike by criticalrealist · · Score: 1

    Please honor the picket line.

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  113. Obviously... by vagn · · Score: 1

    it's some lame MS marketing ploy. People may not be able to see it, but the dogs can tell.

  114. Ouch! by Tablizer · · Score: 1

    That would sort of imply that the species in question had ten fingers or tentacles or dicks or whatever

    I would hate to be plundered and raped by such a species.

  115. Well, it's no MPEG but.... by Jason+Levine · · Score: 1

    How's this? ;-)

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  116. ummm .... no .... by taniwha · · Score: 1

    it would just imply it had FEET ... (as opposed to meters ...)

  117. Re:screwed up by Kyobu · · Score: 1
    OK, here's an example. Darwin's finches. They're birds that live in the Galapagos Islands, and there are several varieties, and they evolve visibly over the course of small numbers of years. You can go there, and then return ten years later, and they will be different. Not enough for ya? OK then, here are whole new species: Oenothera gigas, a variant of the evening primrose. Here's what the talk.origins FAQ has to say about it (http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-speciation.ht ml):
    While studying the genetics of the evening primrose, Oenothera lamarckiana, de Vries (1905) found an unusual variant among his plants. O. lamarckiana has a chromosome number of 2N = 14. The variant had a chromosome number of 2N = 28. He found that he was unable to breed this variant with O. lamarckiana. He named this new species O. gigas.

    Still not enough? Then how come you still believe in gravity? After all,

    And the sun stood still, and the moon stayed, until the people had avenged themselves upon their enemies.
    Joshua 10:13
    Even if you accept the circumlocutory explanation that the Bible isn't saying that the sun orbits the earth, but that its position is just relative to the earth, the fact still remains that the Bible claims that the sun stopped. This is not possible. If that were true, then without the centripetal force acting on the sun (or on Earth), they would have crashed into each other. Clearly, they did not. If your faith in the absolute literal truth in the Bible is insufficient to make you not believe in gravity, then how come evolution is different? Both are theories, with a whole lot of supporting evidence. Note that "theory" does not mean "guess" or "hypothesis." A theory is a hypothesis with tons of backup.

    To digress a little, I noticed that your accusation of an ad hominem argument was directly preceded by an ad hominem argument. Slick there, buddy.

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  118. How accurate is this monolith? by Gendou · · Score: 2
    I'm wondering if the artists had the technology to increase the dimentions of this object beyond three. The dimentions of this thing should actually be:

    1 : 2^2 : 3^3 : ... : (n-2)^2 : (n-1)^2 : n^2

    ...where n -> infinity. :-)

    1. Re:How accurate is this monolith? by Beinoni · · Score: 1

      Well, since we're dealing with apes here, and their favorite activity is to pick nits: The third quantity in your sequence should be 3^2, in order to be consistent with both the original and the rest of your sequence. Thhhhbpppt.

    2. Re:How accurate is this monolith? by darrad · · Score: 1

      I dunno, but if you are going to flaunt your superior intellect, I would suggest using the spell checker....

    3. Re:How accurate is this monolith? by Gendou · · Score: 1

      As if you've never spelled dimension with a 't' before. :-P

  119. They're taking it down by Tsuran · · Score: 2
    I heard this on the local (Seattle) news tonight:

    The Monolith apparently doesn't conform to safety codes or something (it wasn't mounted right) and they'll be taking it down.

    Meanies.

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  120. ... aren't just from Capitol Hill ... by WillAffleck · · Score: 2

    On New Year's Eve, a parade/protest/whatever was organized from Capitol Hill in Seattle (the "Bohemian" Neighborhood) up and down its main street and then into downtown Seattle.

    Ahem. Fremont is Seattle's bohemian neighborhood, Capitol Hill is Seattle's gay and alternative neighborhood.

    Everyone knows that.

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    1. Re:... aren't just from Capitol Hill ... by FallLine · · Score: 2

      Ahem. I used to live in Capital Hill. It's neither gay nor bohemian, only certain clusters of it are. Like some parts of Broadway and the surrounding areas have a high gay population, but others have no more than most any other area (especially relative to Seattle in general)

    2. Re:... aren't just from Capitol Hill ... by WillSeattle · · Score: 1

      Ahem. I used to live in Capital Hill. It's neither gay nor bohemian, only certain clusters of it are.

      Well, sweetie, you just haven't been paying attention. It's flamin' gay, or lesbian. After all Seattle has the second highest lesbian percentage of population of any major US city, and a lot of them live on Capitol Hill.

      Note I didn't include Pill Hill or Montlake or any of the adjacent neighborhoods.

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    3. Re:... aren't just from Capitol Hill ... by FallLine · · Score: 2
      Well, sweetie, you just haven't been paying attention. It's flamin' gay, or lesbian.


      Or maybe you just don't know it as well as you think you do. I lived there for 7 years, I know full well what is and is not there. Granted, there are still _some_ in many areas, but not more so than other parts of the country, and especially not more than Seattle on average. If you venture a little further North than Volunteer Park (or even adjacent parts of Federal Avenue), for instance, you'll find some very nice / conservative houses. Likewise, if you step back away from those little clusters surrounding Broadway, particularly to the more expensive parts, you'll find a dramatic difference. And yes, I have been back there since, those neighborhoods are largely the same, only substantially more expensive.

      Put simply, you're over-generalizing. You might say Capital Hill, when taken on whole has a larger gay presence than other parts of Seattle (because of those clusters), but you're simply wrong if you imply that the entire neighborhood is "flaming."
    4. Re:... aren't just from Capitol Hill ... by WillAffleck · · Score: 1

      If you venture a little further North than Volunteer Park (or even adjacent parts of Federal Avenue), for instance, you'll find some very nice / conservative houses. Likewise, if you step back away from those little clusters surrounding Broadway, particularly to the more expensive parts, you'll find a dramatic difference.

      Yup, mostly owned by gays and lesbians. Who have more disposable income. I've been there.

      But if you go north, that's Montlake, and that ain't Capitol Hill. And if you go east, again, you're in another neighborhood.

      I've taught Junior Achievement all around there (e.g. Garfield), my son went to Lowell for some of his first year, and I've been on the PTSA there too.

      If we were to take a measure, we'd say it's way more flaming than anywhere else in Seattle.

      Which is maybe why some of those people like cool stuff like Monoliths. Even if they only lasted for a day.

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      Will in Seattle
    5. Re:... aren't just from Capitol Hill ... by FallLine · · Score: 2

      BS. I used to live there. You don't know what you're talking about.

    6. Re:... aren't just from Capitol Hill ... by salyavin · · Score: 1

      Or perhaps you just weren't aware.

  121. Bellevue is to Seattle as the Monolith is to HAL by WillAffleck · · Score: 2

    OK, geography lesson.

    Seattle is on the West Side of Lake Washington.
    Mercer Island is in the middle of Lake Washington.
    Bellevue and Redmond are on the East Side of Lake Washington.

    Just think Seattle = New York and Redmond = Trenton and you'll get the idea. Except it's reversed, since it's the West Coast.

    The Monolith is in Seattle. Bill Gates is in Redmond. Oh, ok, that cheesy suburb right off of I-520, but same concept. And, sometimes, just to be nice, we let Bill Gates come to Seattle to pretend he has culture.

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  122. Seattle Must Have Public Art or Else! by WillAffleck · · Score: 2

    Certainly a valid opinion, but here's mine. Cities are communities, and taxes go to build all aspects of the community. That means zoning to keep industrial waste more-or-less out of your front yard, fixing potholes, providing parks and recreational areas, and yep, you guessed it, public art. So that's publically funded public art. And if you don't like the 'foo' at 'Baz & Main', then write a letter to your city council. Personally, if you don't like a few surprises in art, I'd rather you just find some other community where you can be a curmudgeon to your heart's content.

    Wait, it's not just Monoliths, it's also Monorails that Seattle needs, wants, and desires.

    And, we actually have a 2 percent for art requirement in King County. Not just your paltry one percent - two percent.

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    Will in Seattle
  123. Metric or English Monolith? by WillAffleck · · Score: 2

    ouldn't an advanced alien species measures things in meters? Or have they not converted over yet, either?

    They made it easy for the people who are Microserfs. The rest of the Seattlites can do metric, it's just those wannabes across the lake who can't.

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    1. Re:Metric or English Monolith? by WillSeattle · · Score: 1

      Let me respectfully say that you don't speak for all of Seattle. Quit pretending to.

      By definition, Microserfs from across the lake are not Seattleites. Therefore, they are not members of the class which is Seattle, and are hence second-class citizens.

      Note that you can be a Microserf and live in Seattle. These are first class citizens, and include many of my friends, neighbors, and acquantances. They know metric.

      It's just the wannabees who live on the Eastside who don't know metric.

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  124. Darn, you let the Monolith out of the bag ... by WillAffleck · · Score: 2

    There go our plans for world domination.

    We figured with Bush as President he'd be clueless as to geometric progression, which would give us enough time to get monoliths in all 51 states.

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    Will in Seattle
  125. It's a publicity stunt by Frank Blethen by WillAffleck · · Score: 2

    Really. Now that the Seattle Post-Intelligencer has settled it's strike, the Seattle Times (which is still on strike) needed to do something to raise it's circulation and page hits, since most of us are only getting the Seattle P-I now.

    You'll see Frank out at the Monolith with his shotgun, trying to shoot it, just like he did his neighbors dogs when they wandered onto his property.

    Just lift up the Monolith and look for the union label.

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    Will in Seattle
  126. Antenna? by TermAnnex · · Score: 1

    I hope they find a way to keep it up there. It would be funny if the seattle wireless guys used it as an antenna. Technological advances indeed.

  127. Arthur C. Clarke to sue... by jgdobak · · Score: 1

    ...Due to a patent he holds on monoliths in a 1:4:9 configuration, in conjunction with the number 2000.

    Well, as soon as he finds out who to sue, anyway.


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  128. Wrong color. by ixian · · Score: 1

    That's nice, but they got the color wrong. The monolith was made out of non-reflective black material. Nobody knew just what that material was, but it certainly was not steel, or looked like steel.

  129. Re:what's up? by wumingzi · · Score: 1

    Actually, I'd say that going to a web site run by a union-busting company is a Good Thing. You are using their resources while not contributing a thing back to them.

    If ya click on one of their banner ads though, you're gonna burn in Hell.

    j.

  130. Re:Well yeah, my GOD man! by Soruk · · Score: 1

    My GOD! ... It's full of GEEKS!

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  131. wrong by Boolean · · Score: 1

    In the movie, yeah, its black, non-reflective, yada yada, but in the book its translucent.

    If you think you know what the hell is going on you're probably full of shit. -- Robert Anton Wilson

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    1. Re:wrong by ixian · · Score: 1

      Ok, maybe. To be honest, I have not read the 2001 book, just watched the movie. But I have read 2010, 2061, and 3001. The monoliths were bescribed as black and non-reflective in the other three books. AFAIK, while the movie was based on the first book (which was more like a movie script), the latter books were more influenced by the movie. On the other hand, Arthur C. Clarke stated himself that the different books take places in different universes or dimentions, so they don't relate to each other 100%. Which means that if, whoever it was who installed the Seatle Monolith, based it on the first book, you are correct and the monolith should've been transparent (like made out of glass or summin :), and if he/she based it on the movie or the latter books, I'm right. In any case, whoever installed the monolith screwed up, cuz it's neither transparent nor black and non-reflective.

  132. I can spell, I swear by FallLine · · Score: 1

    Capitol.

  133. Must be there as a result of time and chance! by anomaly · · Score: 1

    I am cetain that this will be marked as a troll, but seriously -

    How can it be that we are all so interested in determining WHO placed this simple monolith, when we blindly accept that life on earth - far more complex than a monolith - is here by chance?

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  134. Looks damgerous like it might fall over... by SlushDot · · Score: 2
    From the picture, it looks somewhat unstable and able to be tipped over easily with enough force to crush someone.

    I'm suing the aliens for gross negligence. As restitution, I get their flying saucer.

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    1. Re:Looks damgerous like it might fall over... by j-pimp · · Score: 1

      it was implanted in the ground

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  135. Re:screwed up by umrguy76 · · Score: 1

    You will notice, however, that the finch is still a finch. It has not "evolved" but merely retained a certain characteristic or variation. Now if the finch turned into a fish and swam away from the island, then I would be impressed.

  136. Re:holes by MadAhab · · Score: 1
    The only hole is you.
    1. You are trolling, therefore you are an asshole.
    2. Your tired repetition of creationist dogma proves that you, yourself, are sufficiently stupid to be the missing link, and therefore the hole.
    Damn, this stupid evolution thread didn't last so long. Why the hell are there so many posts on this story?

    I also note that you claim there is a clear explanation, but you don't state it. Yeah, you are really scientific. Loser.

    Boss of nothin. Big deal.
    Son, go get daddy's hard plastic eyes.

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  137. Another picture by gwizah · · Score: 1

    this ones diffrent

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  138. Aide for the President-elect by Ch3t · · Score: 2
    Perhaps we should let the President-elect touch the monolith. Maybe place it in the Oval Office. Better yet, let him use it as a desktop.

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  139. Too easy by CustomDesigned · · Score: 1

    I would be more impressed if the monolith were *solid* steel. :-)

  140. Re:screwed up by Xiombarg · · Score: 1
    Let me start by saying, I agree with your basic stance on Evolution and disagree with Biblical "truth" in any case.

    But I thought I'd bring up the point that the sun could "stop" from our point of view, if the Earth's rotation halted for some reason. The moon would even appear to have stopped to those not paying close attention to it's position in the sky, as long as the event only lasted a day or two at the most (the moon has an orbital period of about 28 days, or very roughly 13 degrees per day.) There would be no catastrophic effect from any of this unless the rotation of the Earth stopped very suddenly. (Ouch!)

    Anyway, you should revise the second part of your argument a bit.

    - Xiombarg

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  141. Story - Monolith in Seattle draws crowds by WillSeattle · · Score: 1

    There's a story on Yahoo about the Monolith in Seattle drawing crowds. With quotes from locals.

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  142. Bah, 3 dimensional peons by Otto · · Score: 2

    Who says that the ratio only had three dimensions to it?

    1:4:9:16:... are the correct dimensions..
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  143. It's a sign, alright. And I know what it means! by rf600r · · Score: 1

    It's a sign!

    It symbolizes a slow news-day at Slashdot.

    I can feel it, can't you?

  144. Monolith is gone. by percival · · Score: 1

    From an e-mail I just received:

    Thank you for your message about the monolith sculpture in Magnuson Park.

    I wanted to let you know that the monolith has disappeared from the park as mysteriously as it appeared. When Parks workers went out to the site early this morning, they discovered that the monolith was gone, and in its place was a broken red rose. So the mystery deepens!

    As you may know, we were considering what to do with the sculpture, and hadn't made a final decision on whether to keep it or remove it.

    Thanks again for letting me know your views.

    David Takami Superintendent's Office Seattle Parks and Recreation 100 Dexter Ave. N., Seattle 98109 (206) 684-8020; fax: (206) 233-7023

    Don't know what to make of this...
  145. Gone but at least we got video by WillAffleck · · Score: 2

    Yes, it is gone, but here is a story (with video) on local TV channel KOMO 4 about it.

    arf arf arf

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    Will in Seattle
  146. Re:screwed up by danderson · · Score: 1

    If I understand you correctly, you are willing to consider - at least for the sake of argument - that God can stop the Earth from spinning, but not keep it from colliding with the Sun. If He can do one, He can certainly do the other.

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  147. It's gone. by MsWillow · · Score: 1

    The monolith vanished. Oh well. Then again, the original vanished, too, so maybe, just maybe ... :)

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    1. Re:It's gone. by Goatse.cx+Girl · · Score: 1

      Man, you are really stupid. I hope you realize that. Well, here's to you!!


      Please, for the love of GOD, shut the fuck up and die!!



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  148. Monolith is GONE! by antdude · · Score: 2

    story. DOH!

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  149. No white needed... by Sodium+Attack · · Score: 2

    ...it's the double-zero, of course.

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