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Re:Persecution of Christians
Nope. The position you advocate would result in Americans holding themselves higher than other nations, something that has been disallowed for some time now. Americans are not permitted to think themselves better than anyone. As a matter of fact, Americans are always worse. Why?
A pervasive argument appearing in the post-colonial paradigm is that of Moral Equivalence. In the case of Islamic terrorism the dynamics of moral equivalence can be seen among some figures of the western intelligentsia in their vociferous moral indignation at the behavior of Western nations that, they allege, led to acts of terror, and their understanding attitude towards the terrorist acts themselves (HRC). Even if they do not intentionally excuse terrorism, such writers produce the unhappy consequence of explaining Islamic terrorism in terms of Western misdeeds and faults, and of framing the debate in terms of what the West did to deserve such attacks and, therefore, reverse the moral equation. The Westâ(TM)s âoewrongsâ come to be seen as more reprehensible than the reaction (however âoeharshâ and inexcusable) by terrorists. The easy moral challenge is: âoeAre we not hypocrites, when we do the same thing?â
At some level, this is a pathology of self-criticism (MOS) â" it is all our fault, and if we were better, then we could fix everything. Meanwhile, while we demand the highest standards of ourselves, we treat the terrorists as morally challenged, who canâ(TM)t even understand the questions of intention and cannot be expected to self-criticize. We become incapable of making the distinction between victims and perpetrators, and end up blaming the victim.
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Re:Persecution of Christians
Nope. The position you advocate would result in Americans holding themselves higher than other nations, something that has been disallowed for some time now. Americans are not permitted to think themselves better than anyone. As a matter of fact, Americans are always worse. Why?
A pervasive argument appearing in the post-colonial paradigm is that of Moral Equivalence. In the case of Islamic terrorism the dynamics of moral equivalence can be seen among some figures of the western intelligentsia in their vociferous moral indignation at the behavior of Western nations that, they allege, led to acts of terror, and their understanding attitude towards the terrorist acts themselves (HRC). Even if they do not intentionally excuse terrorism, such writers produce the unhappy consequence of explaining Islamic terrorism in terms of Western misdeeds and faults, and of framing the debate in terms of what the West did to deserve such attacks and, therefore, reverse the moral equation. The Westâ(TM)s âoewrongsâ come to be seen as more reprehensible than the reaction (however âoeharshâ and inexcusable) by terrorists. The easy moral challenge is: âoeAre we not hypocrites, when we do the same thing?â
At some level, this is a pathology of self-criticism (MOS) â" it is all our fault, and if we were better, then we could fix everything. Meanwhile, while we demand the highest standards of ourselves, we treat the terrorists as morally challenged, who canâ(TM)t even understand the questions of intention and cannot be expected to self-criticize. We become incapable of making the distinction between victims and perpetrators, and end up blaming the victim.
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Re:Persecution of Christians
Nope. The position you advocate would result in Americans holding themselves higher than other nations, something that has been disallowed for some time now. Americans are not permitted to think themselves better than anyone. As a matter of fact, Americans are always worse. Why?
A pervasive argument appearing in the post-colonial paradigm is that of Moral Equivalence. In the case of Islamic terrorism the dynamics of moral equivalence can be seen among some figures of the western intelligentsia in their vociferous moral indignation at the behavior of Western nations that, they allege, led to acts of terror, and their understanding attitude towards the terrorist acts themselves (HRC). Even if they do not intentionally excuse terrorism, such writers produce the unhappy consequence of explaining Islamic terrorism in terms of Western misdeeds and faults, and of framing the debate in terms of what the West did to deserve such attacks and, therefore, reverse the moral equation. The Westâ(TM)s âoewrongsâ come to be seen as more reprehensible than the reaction (however âoeharshâ and inexcusable) by terrorists. The easy moral challenge is: âoeAre we not hypocrites, when we do the same thing?â
At some level, this is a pathology of self-criticism (MOS) â" it is all our fault, and if we were better, then we could fix everything. Meanwhile, while we demand the highest standards of ourselves, we treat the terrorists as morally challenged, who canâ(TM)t even understand the questions of intention and cannot be expected to self-criticize. We become incapable of making the distinction between victims and perpetrators, and end up blaming the victim.
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Lies ?
We try to make better guesses on whether someone is a mass-murderer, based on past behavior
They ... well I really can't describe it any better than this : http://www.speroforum.com/site/article.asp?idartic le=6845
And we also tell them that newspapers lie for political correctness, then don't fix the mess they create :
http://michellemalkin.com/archives/006452.htm
Or worse :
http://www.seconddraft.org/movies.php
Or worse :
http://eureferendum.blogspot.com/2006/08/corruptio n-of-media.html
And then you read your headline again ... then think 5 seconds on who is more honest
-> the policeman that can get fired when he steps a toe out of line and checks airline passengers
-> or the reporter who is not checked by anyone, a sensationalist, and has a political affiliation
Then you think another 5 seconds. -
Re:Real accurate "history"
Yeah, the Palestinians, like all Muslims, are famous for their honesty and factual accuracy. They never fabricate Israeli "atrocities" and spread disinformation. That famous instance where a father and his son were behind cover and shot by IDF forces was staged (see for yourself). Their entire existence is nothing but a lie, and their only purpose in life is to exterminate Israel (giving up Gaza didn't help the Israelis very much). It's kind of sad, actually.
As a rule of thumb, you should not trust anything a Muslim says. This observation is based on not only experience, but the fact that taqiyya is a way of life for them, and they harbor a childish victim mindset where absolutely everything that's wrong in the universe is always the infidel's fault. They're hopeless.
I now predict that some leftist will start drooling with rage, mod me -1 Troll, break his keyboard and then cry himself to sleep. It's certainly easier than actually presenting arguments. -
Re:I for one...
Don't forget welcoming their friends:
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You're Obviously Not Tuned to the Events
Say what you will about should/would/could, but in this case there is a bit too much staged photography by the Reuters team in Lebanon. There are too many shots that seem to be true, as well as plenty photographs from Qana that make you wonder when you see all of them, since they tell a story that doesn't add up to the individual description associated to each photo by the photographer (look for White Shirt and Qana).
Furthermore, arab resistance forces (aka terrorists) have used deception in order to shape opinion in the west. Check this out.
As far as right-wing conspiracies go, well, it is apparently a fact that only right-wing blogs touch this issue, while left-wingers either don't touch it, or simply wail about the poor children.
If Adnan Hajj is a CIA operative, then I have to say that the whole scheme isn't working, since most of the world is convinced there was a massacre in Qana, when in fact the evidence is very bogus. -
SeeAlso: Mohammed Al-Dura and the "Jenin Massacre"
Two of history's worst atrocities - not because anything happened, but because of what the Islamic terror brigades tried to say had happened, going so far as to fake it.
But this is what the Palestinians do every day. You can check out the raw footage for yourself.
They lie and lie, and get away with it. Following the famous line of Joseph Goebbels that the people will believe any lie if it is repeated often enough.
Here's what you do:
Start by reading the Koran. There's nothing better than the words of the great proph^H^H^H^Hpedophile Mohammed saying to kill the jews, the jews and christians are apes and pigs, and on down the line. Oh, and that whole "yellow stars of david" thing? Sorry Adolf, Mohammed beat you to that by about 1200 years or so.
Then take a look at the rest of the Muslim religion. There's not a reformist imam, not even a moderate imam, out there. All these photos, the new Qana hoax with the bodies dug from graveyards and paraded in front of the media that Hezbullshit forces were holding at gunpoint, follow the Islamic doctrines of Taqiyya and Kitman: that it is a Muslim's duty to lie in order to make Islam look better or to help attacks upon infidels succeed.
Islam is the Arab version of the National Socialist Party. The only question remaining for the civilized world is whether we Chamberlain ourselves yet fucking again.