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the pope? Why not go back to how the Fascists defined corporativism.

"Under fascist corporatism, sectors of the economy were divided into corporate groups, whose activities and interactions were managed and coordinated by the government. The idea was to split the difference between socialism and laissez faire capitalism, letting the state control and direct the economy from the top-down without itself owning the means of production. Mussolini's official title was "commander and chief of the economy" among others!

The National Council of Corporations was the government body in charge of managing Italy’s economy, and At its inauguration, Mussolini stated, “The [NCC] is to the Italian economy what the Chief of Staff is to the Army: the thinking brain that prepares and coordinates.”

The idea was that this body would negotiate contracts and centrally plan production throughout the economy, regulating the sectors of art, industry, agriculture, trade, comm-unication, transportation, and finance — thus settling disputes, producing social harmony, and generating economic efficiency.
In reality, it did none of this, and the system was used for rent-seeking, and to reward friends and crush enemies of the government."

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You can't compare anything but murder because the categories are different. I personally have been the victim of two crimes which would be reported as violent crime in England, which I reported to the local cops, but were not included in these statistics. In addition to these two crimes I mentioned, my sister has been mugged three times in DC and NYC.

If you want a anti-gun-control person's takedown of this particular statistic I refer you to:
http://blog.skepticallibertari...

The GP did not say murder rates. He said violent crime rates. Even the most conservative comparisons I can find, which attempt to compare like types of crimes in UK and USA (because they are classified differently), shows at least 200% more violent crime in the UK compared to the USA.

http://www.politifact.com/trut...
http://blog.skepticallibertari...
etc, etc.

In which case you would expect somewhere like the UK to be overrun by gun crime as guns are "easy for bad guys to get" are you can be 100% sure no one (including most of the police) will have a gun.

But that is not the case. The UK has a higher violent crime rate than U.S. does, but then the UK define violent crime as "looking at you funny". Skepticallibertarian.com guesses at about double the rate of violent crimes in the UK to the US if you compared the same numbers (I don't know how neutral that is as a source). But then only 1/2 the number of murders.

I'm an American, I've been to the UK. I used to live in LA, only place I was ever victim to violent crime (a mugging by knife) was in London. Never been mugged in the US, not even when living in LA.

I lived in one of England's larger cities for 18 years, and London for another 10, and the only time I've been a victim of crime is when someone stole my bicycle (when it was locked in the street). Anecdotes are a bit pointless.

But of course you guys always focus in on gun violence which is lower there, but ignore violent crime in general, which isn't.

That claim floats around, but it's not valid. See http://blog.skepticallibertarian.com/2013/01/12/fact-checking-ben-swann-is-the-uk-really-5-times-more-violent-than-the-us/ -- the US has a violent crime rate of 446/100,000. The UK classifies a much, much wider group of crimes as "violent", including things like “possession of an article with a blade or point,” and causing “public fear, alarm, or distress,” which gives a figure of 2034. The blog author concludes that the UK rate using US definitions would be at the lower end of the range 271-776.

Liberals let their feelings dictate their actions, regardless of the consequences.

Ah the evul libruls. What about the commie-nazis?

. That is why the UK has higher violent crime rates than the US,

lolwut?

The obvious search turns up this first:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-25671/Violent-crime-worse-Britain-US.html

Which is, of course the daily fail. Quoting from that has about as much credibility as quoting from the National Inquirer.

If you read a sendible analysis, then you get:

http://blog.skepticallibertarian.com/2013/01/12/fact-checking-ben-swann-is-the-uk-really-5-times-more-violent-than-the-us/

which paints a very different picture.

Violence ALWAYS follows disarmament.

In the UK, violent crime has been reducing both before and after the 1997 gun ban. The gun ban didn't appear to make a significant change on the trend.

Violent crime rates cannot be compared because all countries use different definitions. Murder rates can, and there the US is doing pretty abysmal.
http://blog.skepticallibertarian.com/2013/01/12/fact-checking-ben-swann-is-the-uk-really-5-times-more-violent-than-the-us/
Yes I know the above is a comparison between the UK and the US but it still supports my point.

Britain so doesn't have more violent crime. (Source.)

For FSM's sake, stop believing what you hear from talking heads on TV, or read on websites sourced from the Daily Mail.