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The color of someone's skin or sound of their accent must never constitute probable cause.

But they do. A few links to reduce your faith in our government:

New Jersey: "Yes, we racially profile"
USA: Race, Rights, and Police Brutality

These are both articles from Smokedot, but they link to external (i.e. reliable :) sources.
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The color of someone's skin or sound of their accent must never constitute probable cause.

But they do. A few links to reduce your faith in our government:

New Jersey: "Yes, we racially profile"
USA: Race, Rights, and Police Brutality

These are both articles from Smokedot, but they link to external (i.e. reliable :) sources.
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The color of someone's skin or sound of their accent must never constitute probable cause.

But they do. A few links to reduce your faith in our government:

New Jersey: "Yes, we racially profile"
USA: Race, Rights, and Police Brutality

These are both articles from Smokedot, but they link to external (i.e. reliable :) sources.
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The War on Drugs in nonsense. In my opinion, it's causing more problems in this country than anything else right now - and it's causing a whole hell of a lot of problems. From corruption in government to the losses of individual Constitutional rights, everybody is getting screwed except for those making money from it (Government and large corporations).

And come on, Timothy, you need to read Smokedot more - we ran this story on Wednesday :P
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The War on Drugs in nonsense. In my opinion, it's causing more problems in this country than anything else right now - and it's causing a whole hell of a lot of problems. From corruption in government to the losses of individual Constitutional rights, everybody is getting screwed except for those making money from it (Government and large corporations).

And come on, Timothy, you need to read Smokedot more - we ran this story on Wednesday :P
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Smokedot ran this article recently:

All Amtrak Passengers under DEA Surveillance

People just seem completely unaware of what is going on to their rights behind their backs in the name of a war against drugs (the war against civil rights).

I came across this thread today that captures nicely the seriousness of the present situation.

...the government's behavior as "Neo-Nazi." Anti-drug propoganda is everywhere, and the opinion that a lot of people have is that drug use impinges upon American prosperity, whereas in Nazi Germany the Jews were blamed as the obstacle to German prosperity. We have a tradition of persecuting people for their actions (victimless or not) in this country, just as the Germans had a long history of persecuting Jews. I think we will see where the govt stands on this issue when the Supreme Court rules on the California medical marijuana statute. If the MJ Tax Act gets upheld, I will begin seriously considering moving to Canada or Europe, where people seem to retain some of their rights.

Although it is an extreme comparison, there is a strong grain of truth.

Smokedot ran this article recently:

All Amtrak Passengers under DEA Surveillance

People just seem completely unaware of what is going on to their rights behind their backs in the name of a war against drugs (the war against civil rights).

I came across this thread today that captures nicely the seriousness of the present situation.

...the government's behavior as "Neo-Nazi." Anti-drug propoganda is everywhere, and the opinion that a lot of people have is that drug use impinges upon American prosperity, whereas in Nazi Germany the Jews were blamed as the obstacle to German prosperity. We have a tradition of persecuting people for their actions (victimless or not) in this country, just as the Germans had a long history of persecuting Jews. I think we will see where the govt stands on this issue when the Supreme Court rules on the California medical marijuana statute. If the MJ Tax Act gets upheld, I will begin seriously considering moving to Canada or Europe, where people seem to retain some of their rights.

Although it is an extreme comparison, there is a strong grain of truth.

Smokedot ran this article recently:

All Amtrak Passengers under DEA Surveillance

People just seem completely unaware of what is going on to their rights behind their backs in the name of a war against drugs (the war against civil rights).

I came across this thread today that captures nicely the seriousness of the present situation.

...the government's behavior as "Neo-Nazi." Anti-drug propoganda is everywhere, and the opinion that a lot of people have is that drug use impinges upon American prosperity, whereas in Nazi Germany the Jews were blamed as the obstacle to German prosperity. We have a tradition of persecuting people for their actions (victimless or not) in this country, just as the Germans had a long history of persecuting Jews. I think we will see where the govt stands on this issue when the Supreme Court rules on the California medical marijuana statute. If the MJ Tax Act gets upheld, I will begin seriously considering moving to Canada or Europe, where people seem to retain some of their rights.

Although it is an extreme comparison, there is a strong grain of truth.

> See here for details.

It's /. vs Kuro5hin and ... ~. wins? what a great plug for Smokedot! Hoorah for the little guy!

> See here for details.

It's /. vs Kuro5hin and ... ~. wins? what a great plug for Smokedot! Hoorah for the little guy!

Smokedot: Stop the war on drugs. Slashdot style.

Try visiting . for more background on this phenomenon.

MarijuanaNews
DRCNet
Smokedot

Now, please educate yourself, come back, and lets have a nice discussion.

If the War on Drugs is so absurd, why is the U.S.A. wasting millions of dollars on such a futile war?

Simple. Money and Power. This money being "wasted" is your(taxpayers) money not the governments. Why should they care if it's wasted they still get power and control.

I'd like to hope the WOD had good intentions by trying to help people. It's too bad it has turned into a big joke that the american public still supports b/c of constant propaganda. Drugs are bad... mmmkay!

Do some research, you will find that infact the government has been lying to you, and here is a study done in New Mexico recently that even tells us this. This study was commisioned by the govener of New Mexico. Cheers.

Not to mention Smokedot the best one of all, also runs on slash.

I was at the Smithsonian awhile back, and they had on display the actual executive order that FDR signed to put Japanese-Americans into deterrment camps. I read it, and no where did it say "Go out and put all Japanese-Americans into camps". What it did say, was that military authorities could designate secured areas, and they could then decided who had access to these secured areas. That as all they needed to do what they wanted.

As far as criminal forfeiture goes, under drug laws you can be accused of possession, or distribution, and have all of your property confiscated. This happens before you go to trial. If you are found innocent, or even if they drop charges and never go to trial, they still keep your stuff. You have to sue to get it back, and good luck on ever seeing it again. This is one of the things that those of us against the War on Drugs (WOD) are fighting.

Budcub
Smokedot

That is indeed how I finally got the bugger to boot, thanks to some very similar (and helpful advice from DJBongHit on IRC, after trying to install RedHat7.0, which was so screwed up that the install program barely worked, and the screen didn't redraw properly. It booted, but it was whack.

Unfortunately, I'm still a bit of a newbie, and haven't braved the compiling of the kernel yet, but I willdo soon, I'm sure. :)

Cheers, Joshua

Terradot

whiteboard with shared virtual consoles so that two+ users can see apps run in addition to the plain-text whiteboard stuff. don't run as root by default tight integration w/ a kick-arse vpn layer

any sort of auto-load-and-execute-unknown-code winbloze crap those god-damned paperclips!

3.5 SOFTWARE ARCHITECTURE The Carnivore software consists of four components 1. TapNDIS driver (written in C) derived from sample source code provided with Win32 Network Driver Interface Specification (NDIS) Framework (WinDis 32), a product of Printing Communications Associates, Inc. (PCAUSA, http://www.pcausa.com) The license for WinDis 32 prevents the FBI from releasing the source code for this driver, and possibly for TapAPI.dll, to the public. The relevant portions of the WinDis 32 license are shown in Appendix D. 2. TapAPI.dll (written in C++) provides the API for accessing the NDIS driver functionality from other applications. 3. Carnivore.dll (written in C++) provides functionality for controlling the intercept of raw data. 4. Carnivore.exe (written in Visual Basic) is the GUI for Carnivore.

Thanks. I'm glad to know we have all these h4x to choose from.

I guess there's already some feeb h4x0r rewriting carnivore to detect these things.

I also know not to worry because some genius (you or someone else...) will come up with more.


In 1999, marijuana killed 0 Americans...

In other words, how far can I trust him as an ally.

Oops, guess I'm too late...


In 1999, marijuana killed 0 Americans...

This planet's already been fscked up as a result of our last century of spiting it.

So now we can mine asteroids and it's too expensive to bring the goodies back to Terra. Next logical extension, let's move to space.

We can do all the dirty work there in the giant vacuum, and let the ecosystems of Terra begin to heal. Maybe we'll learn some respect for life in the thousands of years we'll have to spend in exile...

We'll have to be careful with asteroid mining though, changing the mass and trajectory of objects in such a wonderfully stable orbital system. If we use an unstable O/S, we might end up crashing Terra into Io or something worse. Keep working on that kernel!



In 1999, marijuana killed 0 Americans...

try here

By the way, SP!



In 1999, marijuana killed 0 Americans...

Of course, the gram is not a measure of wieght, per say.

Ouch! Flamebait? Damn, these moderators suck tonight. I would have modded you up & had a hard time deciding between "Insightful" and "Funny".



In 1999, marijuana killed 0 Americans...

When the Allies broke the Enigma's complex coding scheme, they were able to intercept and decrypt strategic Nazi communiques, eventually leading to Herr Hitler's suicide and an Allied victory.

Herr Doctor Spelunkenzweis, primary counsel for the late Hitler, claims that such blatant disregard of the creator's exclusive rights to his Intellectual Property is intolerable and that the perpetrators must be used as an example.

The late Hitler is seeking an already-controversial list of damages, including ownership of all assets of modern England, France, Austria, Italy, Holland, Luxembourg, Belgium, Poland, Libya, and Ethiopia, as well as a written apology from the ghosts of the Right Honorable Winston Churchill and President Franklin Roosevelt.

chmod 0644 natalie_portman.jpg

...'til I make millionz of bux0rz so I can buy one of these things. Maybe then Natalie Portman will come over. Then I'll sell her 3-D nude image to all of you other geeks for mucho $$$. I'll be richer than Gates in no time....

In 1999, marijuana killed 0 Americans...

ever since the mid-1980s, when Automated Fingerprint Identification Systems (AFIS) began to emerge...

The strongly held belief among FPEs that latent fingerprints can be matched to one person alone, wrote David Stoney in a 1997 legal practice manual, is "the product of probabilistic intuitions widely shared among fingerprint examiners, not of scientific research."

...proficiency tests reveal high rates of error by FPEs.

But forensic fingerprint identification is supposed to compare two different impressions from the same finger. As Stoney noted, "No two things, no two representations of this person's signature, no two representations of their fingerprint will be exactly alike." The test, therefore, ought to have used two different impressions from the same finger to establish a baseline score for a match. "It is really shocking," Stoney testified, "to see something presented...that doesn't have that basic element of forensic examination in part of the study."

Exception in article: ns9999184 : org.xml.sax.SAXException: FWK005 parse may not be called while parsing.

You forgot organized crime, the mafia, la cosa nostra, etc...
During the early 1980's, when things such as the Iran/Contra affair were being investigated, as well as the Propaganda 2 (do a google on "P2"), the trails seemed to vanish inside the Vatican. Been there? It takes about twenty minutes to circumnavigate the entire country on foot. Tiny, but powerful.

Oh, and the largest collection of stolen art in the world--kinda makes the Nazis look like boy scouts.

In 1999, marijuana killed 0 Americans...

I found this one rather amusing... Ahhh, Photoshop.

Joshua

This war on hacking is gonna be just like the war on drugs. Suspects have no rights. The law is supreme and those who represent the law have supreme power. Speak against them and you will be branded a deviant, a criminal sympathizer, and perhaps much worse.

The War on Drugs has resulted in a much more powerful police force and much weaker rights than we previously had. The government used the War on Drugs to justify civil forfeiture laws which allows local and federal agencies to confiscate your property merely upon suspiscion that it was used in a crime--and they never have to give it back even if you are proven innocent! Here's the real kicker: The agencies (local and/or federal) get to keep your property for their own use, or sell it. In states that restrict this kind of behavior, municipalities can team up with a federal agency such as the DEA or FBI to circumvent these restrictions so they still can get a slice of the pie. In almost all cases where the person is found to be innocent the property is still not returned.

The government obviously feels the need to police the Internet, and have expressed the need for more resources to do it. A War on Hacking modeled after the War on Drugs is the winning formula for them to accomplish this.

If you want to learn the history that we were not taught, but are likely doomed to repeat, check out:

"civil forfeiture" on Google
LibertyBoard.org

Smokedot.org - Smokedot links to a lot of great articles on War on Drug issues as well as other stuff. It's not just for stoners ya'know.

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DARE Should Be Discontinued

The War on Drugs and DARE are failures

Reality Check Due In Drug Prevention
The New York Times
By Richard Rothstein

September 27, 2000 - Drug use by our youth is a problem that cries out for commitment, diligence, and honesty by school administrators and elected officials. Instead, for far too long, our drug-prevention policies have been driven by mindless adherence to a wasteful, ineffective, feel-good program, Drug Abuse Resistance Education DARE. DARE has been a huge public-relations success, but a failure at accomplishing the goal of long-term drug-abuse prevention.

Before taxpayers' money is spent for drug prevention, any program receiving the funds should prove its worth.

Our school administrators and elected leaders should insist on no less. However, with DARE, the moneyas well as the crucial opportunities to implement programs that actually workhas been blown.

In a recent guest column appearing in this newspaper, Glenn Levant, the president of DARE America, stated that "DARE has become the most successful drug abuse and violence reduction program in the nation..." He is accurate, but only if "success" is based on the amount of tax and foundation money spent on a program or the number of schools that have used the program.

However, if "success" is based on the effectiveness of a program in reaching the goal of reduced drug abuse over the long-term, DARE has been a dismal failure, according to numerous published studies.

In a Kokomo, Ind., study, researchers found that the level of drug use among DARE graduates was almost identical to the usage among non-DARE students. The only statistically meaningful difference was that more DARE students reported recent use of marijuana than those who had not been through the DARE program.

The Department of Justice commissioned the Research Triangle Institute RTI to evaluate DARE. Its published findings reflect that DARE students use more marijuana than non-DARE students.

The RTI concluded that DARE's core-curriculum effect on the use of other drugs, except tobacco, is not statistically significant. According to the RTI, DARE might very well be taking the place of other, more beneficial, drug-prevention programs that adolescents otherwise could be receiving.

When the City of Oakland decided to dump DARE after spending more than 600,000 per year, the director of Oakland's Family Council on Drug Awareness noted, "The bottom line is that DARE is an expensive program that seems to be making the situation worse."

In the longest follow-up study conducted regarding the effectiveness of DARE, the results of which were published in the Journal of Consulting and Clinical Psychology, the researchers noted that "[t]he widespread popularity of DARE is especially noteworthy, given the lack of evidence for its efficacy." They repeated the findings of many other researchers: "[T]he preponderance of evidence suggests that DARE has no long-term effect on drug use."

After it became apparent I was going to terminate Salt Lake City's involvement in the DARE program, several people came to complain at the City Council meeting on July 11. Among them were the director of DARE for the state of Utah, officers of the Utah Council for Crime Prevention, several DARE officers, and a member of the Salt Lake City School Board. Although they all spoke passionately for the continuation of DARE, not one of them made reference to any research published in a peer-reviewed journal demonstrating the effectiveness of DARE. In fact, the Salt Lake City school board member said she was "appalled" because I provided my research to the school board, yet she failed to mention any research to support her apparently intuitive notion that DARE accomplishes its objective.

Drug prevention is too important to be left to those who refuse to become familiar with the research -- or with the availability of other programs that have been proved to work. The DARE program, and those who have advocated it to the exclusion of effective programs, should be held accountable to the public.

Most important, our community should demand that our schools replace DARE with research-based programs that will help us attain our goal of significantly reduced drug abuse among our youth.

Among those programs are Life Skills Training LST, Students Taught Awareness and Resistance STAR, and Athletes Training and Learning to Avoid Steroids ATLAS. I have provided information concerning these programs and their effectiveness to the Salt Lake City school board.

Our common goal is to cut drug abuse among our youth.

A means of helping to accomplish that goal is to implement in our schools drug-prevention programs that actually work. Those who fail to insist on effective drug-prevention programs in our schools are betraying our youth and our community.

And those who are unfamiliar with the research and insist on retaining DARE in our schools simply because it is a "popular" program are not part of the drug-abuse solution; they are part of the problem.

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DARE Should Be Discontinued

The War on Drugs and DARE are failures

Reality Check Due In Drug Prevention
The New York Times
By Richard Rothstein

September 27, 2000 - Drug use by our youth is a problem that cries out for commitment, diligence, and honesty by school administrators and elected officials. Instead, for far too long, our drug-prevention policies have been driven by mindless adherence to a wasteful, ineffective, feel-good program, Drug Abuse Resistance Education DARE. DARE has been a huge public-relations success, but a failure at accomplishing the goal of long-term drug-abuse prevention.

Before taxpayers' money is spent for drug prevention, any program receiving the funds should prove its worth.

Our school administrators and elected leaders should insist on no less. However, with DARE, the moneyas well as the crucial opportunities to implement programs that actually workhas been blown.

In a recent guest column appearing in this newspaper, Glenn Levant, the president of DARE America, stated that "DARE has become the most successful drug abuse and violence reduction program in the nation..." He is accurate, but only if "success" is based on the amount of tax and foundation money spent on a program or the number of schools that have used the program.

However, if "success" is based on the effectiveness of a program in reaching the goal of reduced drug abuse over the long-term, DARE has been a dismal failure, according to numerous published studies.

In a Kokomo, Ind., study, researchers found that the level of drug use among DARE graduates was almost identical to the usage among non-DARE students. The only statistically meaningful difference was that more DARE students reported recent use of marijuana than those who had not been through the DARE program.

The Department of Justice commissioned the Research Triangle Institute RTI to evaluate DARE. Its published findings reflect that DARE students use more marijuana than non-DARE students.

The RTI concluded that DARE's core-curriculum effect on the use of other drugs, except tobacco, is not statistically significant. According to the RTI, DARE might very well be taking the place of other, more beneficial, drug-prevention programs that adolescents otherwise could be receiving.

When the City of Oakland decided to dump DARE after spending more than 600,000 per year, the director of Oakland's Family Council on Drug Awareness noted, "The bottom line is that DARE is an expensive program that seems to be making the situation worse."

In the longest follow-up study conducted regarding the effectiveness of DARE, the results of which were published in the Journal of Consulting and Clinical Psychology, the researchers noted that "[t]he widespread popularity of DARE is especially noteworthy, given the lack of evidence for its efficacy." They repeated the findings of many other researchers: "[T]he preponderance of evidence suggests that DARE has no long-term effect on drug use."

After it became apparent I was going to terminate Salt Lake City's involvement in the DARE program, several people came to complain at the City Council meeting on July 11. Among them were the director of DARE for the state of Utah, officers of the Utah Council for Crime Prevention, several DARE officers, and a member of the Salt Lake City School Board. Although they all spoke passionately for the continuation of DARE, not one of them made reference to any research published in a peer-reviewed journal demonstrating the effectiveness of DARE. In fact, the Salt Lake City school board member said she was "appalled" because I provided my research to the school board, yet she failed to mention any research to support her apparently intuitive notion that DARE accomplishes its objective.

Drug prevention is too important to be left to those who refuse to become familiar with the research -- or with the availability of other programs that have been proved to work. The DARE program, and those who have advocated it to the exclusion of effective programs, should be held accountable to the public.

Most important, our community should demand that our schools replace DARE with research-based programs that will help us attain our goal of significantly reduced drug abuse among our youth.

Among those programs are Life Skills Training LST, Students Taught Awareness and Resistance STAR, and Athletes Training and Learning to Avoid Steroids ATLAS. I have provided information concerning these programs and their effectiveness to the Salt Lake City school board.

Our common goal is to cut drug abuse among our youth.

A means of helping to accomplish that goal is to implement in our schools drug-prevention programs that actually work. Those who fail to insist on effective drug-prevention programs in our schools are betraying our youth and our community.

And those who are unfamiliar with the research and insist on retaining DARE in our schools simply because it is a "popular" program are not part of the drug-abuse solution; they are part of the problem.

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Drugs are so bad for you because if you use them you go to jail. What a great argument!

What circular argument would you use if drug users didn't have to go to jail? How would you demonize drug use if decriminalization continues?

Vote YES on Proposition 36 in California!

The war on drugs is as intense as ever.
The political smoke is so thick (no pun intended) that nobody can tell if drug use is going up or down

The war on drugs is a total pathetic failure that deserves to be eliminated with all haste. Some other places in the world realize that "getting people with the program" probably shouldn't involve kicking down their door and throwing them in a federal prison so lonely inmates pay spiders for sex.

The libertarian party is on the rise, and to a certain extent the socialists and the greens as well. And what have we heard from their mouths? "I will grant an unconditional pardon to all non-violent convicts upon entering the oval office".

Check out Smokedot for more info on different perspectives on the War on Drugs.

You're asking did DARE succeed? I'ts a small component of a massive system that has totally fallen on its ass. So I would say no, all DARE did was give a few cops extra drinking money.

You mean the joke of a NIDA study saying that 4 caged spider monkeys would rather choose to get high than sit in the cage bored? Shit, if I were in a cage from which I could not escape, with nothing but food, water & a lever that made me trip, you're damn right I'd be pushing that lever....

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TheDude
Smokedot
Drug Info, Rights, Laws, and Discussion

You mean the joke of a NIDA study saying that 4 caged spider monkeys would rather choose to get high than sit in the cage bored? Shit, if I were in a cage from which I could not escape, with nothing but food, water & a lever that made me trip, you're damn right I'd be pushing that lever....

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TheDude
Smokedot
Drug Info, Rights, Laws, and Discussion

OK, so maybe drunks aren't the most favored of soceity's peoples (don't get me started on who's the favored of society), but they aren't thrown in jail for drinking either. If they go out and drink-n-drive, then yeah, they're jailed. But pot-smokers can't even enjoy a puff at home without risking arrest. Tell me there's nothing wrong with that.

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TheDude
Smokedot
Drug Info, Rights, Laws, and Discussion

One thing I don't understand is why everybody around here seems to be favoring Gore over Bush. True, I would never in a million years vote for someone as mind-bogglingly stupid as Bush, but I would also never vote for Gore - he is extremely in favor of censorship, and his wife Tipper is even worse. True, she won't have any real power if Gore is elected, but she will have way too much pull. She is a very dangerous woman.

Why is censorship so bad? You tell me.
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find quite some info on Smokedot.org. Also uses slashcode.

//rdj

Woohoo! great question! You should also point people to SmokeDot. There is a great article there written by TheDude about how Mary Jane was criminalized; read both part 1 and part 2.

Woohoo! great question! You should also point people to SmokeDot. There is a great article there written by TheDude about how Mary Jane was criminalized; read both part 1 and part 2.

Woohoo! great question! You should also point people to SmokeDot. There is a great article there written by TheDude about how Mary Jane was criminalized; read both part 1 and part 2.

I've got an LX164 (600mhz EV56, 512MB of RAM, 8GB SCSI drive) and it's the sweetest machine I've ever had, and one of the fastest ones I've ever used (the only faster one was an Alpha I got the opportunity to play around with at Goddard Space Center, which was a dual 600mhz Alpha with 4GB of RAM :-)

I have to admit, I don't use it as my main machine, mostly because I use 3D Studio and Painter 6 often and don't have NT for Alpha. But it's the workhorse around here - it's our IP Masq box, Samba server, web server, FTP server, SMTP server, and POP/IMAP server, and it used to be the home for Smokedot until our DSL got cut off. When i do hook my 19" monitor up to it and use X, it is FAST. Blindingly fast. I didn't think it was humanly possible for X with Helix Gnome to go so fast, but it's much faster and more responsive than my roommate's Athlon 800 running either Win2k or Linux, and it just blows my P2 350 out of the water.

Conclusion? Any geek who runs Linux would be, IMHO, much happier with an Alpha than x86. I run RedHat, but I know Debian and SuSE both have Alpha distributions, as well as Free- and NetBSD. Every open source program I've tried on it has worked great - some of them give warnings on compile which seem to indicate that they're not 64-bit clean, but they work fine nonetheless. It's also got a ridiculous number of PCI/ISA slots and drive bays - 10 full-height drive bays, 4 ISA, and 6 PCI slots.

The only issue is games - I haven't seen a single commercial game which has a Linux/Alpha port, which kinda sucks. It would make a sick gaming platform, especially now that the SRM compatibility problems with nVidia cards have been fixed.

Not to mention the fact that any CPU with 4MB of L2 cache is good in my book :-)
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heh whoops, apparantly targeting links to new windows doesn't quite work right here. Here are the links:
SmokeDot
The Stuff

The media/government doesn't want to recognise the obvious pattern here. They preach that drug addiction follows money. While this is a good coincidence and while money enables one to buy more drugs, it's not as if the mystical dot-com dream boy they seem to like to trumpet so much nowadays wakes up the morning after his IPO with a million dollars and having never experimented with drugs before or used drugs, runs out to a shady coffee bar and becomes a cocaine addict. No, this "dot-commer" (god I hate that phrase) used drugs all through high school, college, his first working years and right up to the day when he went IPO. Drugs AND money follow _intelligence_. This is not a beleif.. this is not a spin to put on the situation, this is a fact. And there is nothing wrong with it! The drugs that help these programmers stay up until 6 in the morning enable them to be MUCH more productive! The drugs that these people take on the weekends at parties help these people relax and enjoy themselves much in the same way that alcohol does, and in the same way as alcohol, these drugs must be used in moderation. Sure, there will be the few cases where someone loses control, someone fucks up and takes too much due to stupidity or lack of information about the drug they are taking or through addiction, but that is the exception to the rule. These are the same people that would die 10 years later in a drunk driving accident or because their bodies fail after constant alcoholism, but since this country is so wrapped up in the War on Drugs and Barry McCaffery's holy war of Publicity, the media will take the few exceptions and trumpet them as some sort of endemic.

To quote the prophet Bill Hicks, "If you don't beleive drugs have done some good things for us, do this for me, go home tonight and take all your records, all your tapes and all your CDs and burn them. Because you know all of those artists who have made all of that great music that has enhanced your lives, RRRRRRRRRRRRRRREEEAL fuckin high on drugs."

to get more info on Bill Hicks, check out Sacred Cow Productions
Also, check out SmokeDot, a Slash-based forum on drug information at www.smokedot.org

//Phizzy

http://smokedot.org/