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Re:mysterious
My money says he could probably have gotten what he needed from the Medibuntu archives.
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Re:Oh, sweet irony... thou name art WinderzIdiot, they aren't even close to being the same thing. The Klite codec pack is a collection of codecs wrapped in a fairly hostile windows installer - gstreamer is a multimedia API. Gstreamer is a great API, that's getting better and more popular by the minute. And Ubuntu might want to consider moving the fluendo gstreamer mp3 package into restricted or main and install by default. By similar I meant the large collection of gstreamer packages that Ubuntu creates for codecs, bundled into -good, -bad, and -ugly, but mostly w32codecs, which is nearly EXACTLY like K-Lite, without the spyware. While it's not terribly hard to find infringing users once you nab the server, I don't think the codec owners are likely to go as far as RIAA has in suing their users.
And as I already said, end users don't care -- they want zero cost software, so they'll continue to download warez and ignore intellectual property, and generally ignore efforts to fix the legal code they live under. The people who host should care whether they have permission to distribute things they don't own, as should the people who believe that the GPL should be respected. The GPL provides extra rights above and beyond simple fair use to all people on the basis of copyright; the way to promote it certainly not by disrespecting other people's copyright.
Mplayer hosts several binary codec packages. It's not clear to me whether they have rights to distribute copies of someone else's codecs, and it seems like the sort of thing that they should have better documentation of. If they do in fact have permission to redistribute those DLLs, then Ubuntu may have a chance to provide these in multiverse.
Medibuntu is the group currently hosting w32codecs and other things Ubuntu refuses to package "for legal reasons". They provide the software under a bullshit "it's up to you to determine whether this software is legal for you." They can do this because they don't have to worry about taking an entire distro down with them; Ubuntu is gaining more and more OEM support, and it's likely causing Microsoft pain at contract negotiation time. I'd think if Ubuntu went around distributing Microsoft software within Ubuntu, or even adding the Medibuntu repo by default, they'd quickly find out how many lawyers the 10 million in the Ubuntu Foundation's name would garner them. -
Re:"...could provide..."Automatix only exists because there is a need for it. If it's so simple to make the package provide the functionality, why hasn't anyone done it? Automatix seems to be the (only?) ones who have tried to do something that many people need. Medibuntu.
Just add it it to your apt repositories.
Like this: http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repository.php
It gives you correct access to this list of stuff: http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/packages.php
Perfectly legal for all of us non-US residents.
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Re:"...could provide..."Automatix only exists because there is a need for it. If it's so simple to make the package provide the functionality, why hasn't anyone done it? Automatix seems to be the (only?) ones who have tried to do something that many people need. Medibuntu.
Just add it it to your apt repositories.
Like this: http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repository.php
It gives you correct access to this list of stuff: http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/packages.php
Perfectly legal for all of us non-US residents.
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Re:"...could provide..."Automatix only exists because there is a need for it. If it's so simple to make the package provide the functionality, why hasn't anyone done it? Automatix seems to be the (only?) ones who have tried to do something that many people need. Medibuntu.
Just add it it to your apt repositories.
Like this: http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repository.php
It gives you correct access to this list of stuff: http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/packages.php
Perfectly legal for all of us non-US residents.
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Re:Not optimistic about the US1. Playing DVDs in the US remains a problem. I know that Linspire is going to address this, but this is a huge issue. Install Medibuntu. 2. VPN is a pain. Apparently Network Manager doesn't work right if you have a static IP address! I spent a *lot* of time trying to get VPN to work before I discovered this. Yes, it's a reported bug. NetworkManager, IMHO, is an utter peice of shit. Disable it an you'll be much happier. My box currently is VPN'd into three OpenVPN networks and one Cisco VPN network (with vpnc). Took only a few minutes to set up (no command line necessary, you can edit the files with gEdit if you want). 3. Reliable power management, i.e. suspension and hibernation. It's crash city when I suspend or hibernate. Yes I have the latest BIOS. No, I'm not willing to buy a new machine. And yes, I'm sure there are many machines where power management works properly, but I'm also sure there are many machines like mine. I agree. Power management support on Linux is absolutely pathetic. 4. The general polish of the Gnome interface is low compared to Windows and OS X. (Yes, I've also looked at KDE.) When I switch users, why do I have to log in twice? Really? Ubuntu's Gnome makes Mac OS X and Windows XP / Windows Vista seem like inconsistent cheap hacks.
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Re:Nice Writeup
The next time you try it, you might want to add this repository. It has deb packages specifically for Ubuntu. I got skype, googleearth, and a couple of other things you won't find in Ubuntu's regular repositories.
deb http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/ edgy free non-free
deb-src http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/ edgy free non-free
Of course, the next time you try it, it will probably not be 'edgy' or 'feisty', but whatever the next code name is. Or hell, maybe the next time you try it skype will be opensource and software patents will be gone, and we won't need these alternative repositories anymore. One can always hope. -
Re:Nice Writeup
The next time you try it, you might want to add this repository. It has deb packages specifically for Ubuntu. I got skype, googleearth, and a couple of other things you won't find in Ubuntu's regular repositories.
deb http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/ edgy free non-free
deb-src http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/ edgy free non-free
Of course, the next time you try it, it will probably not be 'edgy' or 'feisty', but whatever the next code name is. Or hell, maybe the next time you try it skype will be opensource and software patents will be gone, and we won't need these alternative repositories anymore. One can always hope. -
Re:Automatix? UghExactly. The only reason 90% of people use Automatix is to install codecs, but it's actually easier to install codecs directly than it is to install Automatix. Here's where you should go to install codecs:
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormat s
Here's the important part:
Click Applications Add/Remove. In the top right, change the setting to "All available applications". Then select Other in the left panel and then select the Ubuntu restricted extras package. Click OK.
To play most DVDs you'll need the libdvdcss2 package. This package is available using Medibuntu. This is a third party package, and not supported by Canonical. Here's a direct link to libdvdcss2:
i386: http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/pool/feisty/free /i386/libdvdcss2_1.2.9-2medibuntu2+build1_i386.deb
amd64: http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/pool/feisty/free /amd64/libdvdcss2_1.2.9-2medibuntu2+build1_amd64.d eb
Save it to your desktop, then right click and hit Install. That's all you need to do to get codecs for everything. Please, people, avoid Automatix. -
Re:Automatix? UghExactly. The only reason 90% of people use Automatix is to install codecs, but it's actually easier to install codecs directly than it is to install Automatix. Here's where you should go to install codecs:
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormat s
Here's the important part:
Click Applications Add/Remove. In the top right, change the setting to "All available applications". Then select Other in the left panel and then select the Ubuntu restricted extras package. Click OK.
To play most DVDs you'll need the libdvdcss2 package. This package is available using Medibuntu. This is a third party package, and not supported by Canonical. Here's a direct link to libdvdcss2:
i386: http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/pool/feisty/free /i386/libdvdcss2_1.2.9-2medibuntu2+build1_i386.deb
amd64: http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/pool/feisty/free /amd64/libdvdcss2_1.2.9-2medibuntu2+build1_amd64.d eb
Save it to your desktop, then right click and hit Install. That's all you need to do to get codecs for everything. Please, people, avoid Automatix. -
Re:Automatix? Ugh
I agree - I cringed when I read that - irresponsible!
I've used EasyUbuntu and the MediUbuntu repositories to get all the same jobs done safely - I would recommend those options instead of Automatix -
Re:iPods, iTunes and Digital Cameras?
iPod: works out of the box
DigiCam: the very vast majority works out of the box (and simpler than Windows, plugging it in opens a management app)
iTunes: complain to Apple and/or help her a bit: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormat s/iTunesMusicStore
Multimedia: 7.04 will prompt you and offer to install support for proprietary codecs. DVD needs a tiny bit of help: http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/ -
Re:Automatix?
The only thing one really needs in general (apart from special requirement for specific apps) is medibuntu: http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/
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Re:Why not link directly to the story?the one that Just Works, OOTB, Zero Conf', includes the nVidia driver, mp3 player (MAD, please, lest I burn mine ears), support for all video formats in all the players, configured right - that is, no "-vo not valid" in mplayer or "can't load wmdmod.dll" in xine.
- OOTB? "Out of the Blue"? Sorry,cannot help here.
- Zeroconf: yup
- nVidia: yup. Note: the nVidia driver was always included in Ubuntu, it was just not totally foolproof to enable it. Now it is.
- mp3: yup
- Video formats: yup. Note: not in all the players, just in gstreamer (works great). xine-backend users need to follow a few simple steps
- All layers configured right: first of all, I never had the problems with mplayer and xine you described. However, it is pretty unreasonable to demand form Ubuntu to have all players configured correctly. Ubuntu has a list of supported software, you can demand that this works. For unsupported stuff, file bug reports and contribute fixes
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Re:Might take some searching:
Although I think the Debian/Ubuntu PLF mirrors are down at the moment
This may help: http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/ -
Re:I don't get why they would use Ubuntu...In Ubuntu or Kubuntu you need to replace both GNOME and KDE to get something stable. They apply a bunch of experimental patches to "improve" the experience, but the patches often creates more bugs. Hmm. Have you actually used Ubuntu? With both Dapper and Edgy the Gnome desktop works perfectly out of the box. Better than any other distro I've tried, and I've been using Linux as my primary OS since '96. KDE in Dapper worked well, though I dropped it in favor of Gnome due to how nice Gnome was in Dapper. KDE was my desktop of choice since '99, BTW. I haven't tried KDE with Edgy, but I do use several KDE apps (Quanta, Krita, Kate (gEdit sucks, IMHO), etc) and they work very well.
I know with Fedora, the Gnome desktop was very irritating (still is with FC6). It's KDE wasn't usable which is why the first thing I did to a Fedora install is replace it's KDE with the kde-redhat builds.
With Ubuntu I have not had these problems. There also seems to lack mature features for installing 3rd party content. This might not be much of a problem for really basic desktop user It's easy to install third party software. For example, download a .deb for Exaile or Opera. Double click it and it will install. If you want libdvdcss2 and w32codecs, for example, add one line* to add Medibuntu and you're good.
* Here is that one line:
deb http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/ edgy free non-free
Also, Ubuntu contains a massive amount of packages. Just make sure to enable Universe, Multiverse, and Backports (these are all official but are commented out by default in /etc/apt/sources.list). Just take a look:
user@localhost:~$ apt-cache pkgnames|wc -l
26362
That's 26,362 packages... but for a standard Linux users not being able to install and run tar-balls is a real problem What are you talking about? apt-get install build-essentials and you get the base packages for building source files. Though due to the massive amount of packages available it's not really necessary to build much from source. (ubuntu doesn't even include /usr/local to PATH!) Bullshit.
user@localhost:~$ echo $PATH /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin: /sbin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games
and they have obscured everything but /home and /mnt in the file-browsers I have not experienced that with Nautilus or the command line. -
Re:I don't get why they would use Ubuntu...In Ubuntu or Kubuntu you need to replace both GNOME and KDE to get something stable. They apply a bunch of experimental patches to "improve" the experience, but the patches often creates more bugs. Hmm. Have you actually used Ubuntu? With both Dapper and Edgy the Gnome desktop works perfectly out of the box. Better than any other distro I've tried, and I've been using Linux as my primary OS since '96. KDE in Dapper worked well, though I dropped it in favor of Gnome due to how nice Gnome was in Dapper. KDE was my desktop of choice since '99, BTW. I haven't tried KDE with Edgy, but I do use several KDE apps (Quanta, Krita, Kate (gEdit sucks, IMHO), etc) and they work very well.
I know with Fedora, the Gnome desktop was very irritating (still is with FC6). It's KDE wasn't usable which is why the first thing I did to a Fedora install is replace it's KDE with the kde-redhat builds.
With Ubuntu I have not had these problems. There also seems to lack mature features for installing 3rd party content. This might not be much of a problem for really basic desktop user It's easy to install third party software. For example, download a .deb for Exaile or Opera. Double click it and it will install. If you want libdvdcss2 and w32codecs, for example, add one line* to add Medibuntu and you're good.
* Here is that one line:
deb http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/ edgy free non-free
Also, Ubuntu contains a massive amount of packages. Just make sure to enable Universe, Multiverse, and Backports (these are all official but are commented out by default in /etc/apt/sources.list). Just take a look:
user@localhost:~$ apt-cache pkgnames|wc -l
26362
That's 26,362 packages... but for a standard Linux users not being able to install and run tar-balls is a real problem What are you talking about? apt-get install build-essentials and you get the base packages for building source files. Though due to the massive amount of packages available it's not really necessary to build much from source. (ubuntu doesn't even include /usr/local to PATH!) Bullshit.
user@localhost:~$ echo $PATH /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin: /sbin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games
and they have obscured everything but /home and /mnt in the file-browsers I have not experienced that with Nautilus or the command line. -
Re:DEsktop Linux has grown up.
the only program I compile by hand is hot-babe
No need: http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repository.php