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Re:Where are the drives?
"the Serial ATA-based drives will likely carry just a $10 premium over their Ultra ATA/100 siblings, Eisman says."
From tech-junkie.com
as posted here.
It's funny how often slashdot readers ask questions that were just posted on slashdot. :) -
Re:nVidia (the company) Sucks
Acompany isn't bending backwards to lend/give you a board for review purposes and you say the "company sucks"? From the spelling and language in your post, I hope that isn't the business perception Nvidia have of you.
Welcome to the unsexy, hard-slugging world of getting product reviews on smaller sites. I take it you have been running TargetPC for quite some time now, I certainly have with Tech-Junkie . The question any company will ask themselves is "what is in it for me?". They are a business not a charity. Quite frankly, if I was running a company like Nvidia I would only send my review products to the larger sites because a review on AnandTech and TomsHardware will cover the vast majority of issues. With some exceptions, smaller sites tend to have weaker editorial content and weaker visibility.
Sites love to get hardware or software because its the material that drives readership, companies send out products because it provides additional visibility and advertising. With big ticket items like a new GeForce board, competition is really tight and often smaller sites will get squeezed out. That's the reality. -
Re:Oh you mean like this...
We did a little round of computer shooting about a year ago.
We placed a 486 CPU chip on a board and fired a 0.22 into it. Also shot up laptops, monitors and other computer gear.
As expected, the 486 shattered. I shot a video and encoded it in QuickTime MOV format. We couldn't run any benchmarks on the remains though. The whole article starts here.
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Re:Oh you mean like this...
We did a little round of computer shooting about a year ago.
We placed a 486 CPU chip on a board and fired a 0.22 into it. Also shot up laptops, monitors and other computer gear.
As expected, the 486 shattered. I shot a video and encoded it in QuickTime MOV format. We couldn't run any benchmarks on the remains though. The whole article starts here.
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Re:Oh you mean like this...
We did a little round of computer shooting about a year ago.
We placed a 486 CPU chip on a board and fired a 0.22 into it. Also shot up laptops, monitors and other computer gear.
As expected, the 486 shattered. I shot a video and encoded it in QuickTime MOV format. We couldn't run any benchmarks on the remains though. The whole article starts here.
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My quiet case project : it's an answer ... sort of
Well, it seem these days, most of the power user just care to get something like 200fps in Quake III. Why ? Beat's me ! I'm not on a quest to get the ultimate frame rate, I just want my box to be quiet as possibly can be.
To help you understand my take on the subject, here is the background
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My PC has the following components :- A OEM case
- A 235W OEM power supply
- ASUS P3B-F
- Intel Pentium II rated 400Mhz @ 400Mhz
- A cheap OEM SECC2 Heat-Sink made of aluminum
- A 128MB CAS2 no-name DIMM
- Two 32MB CAS3 Samsung DIMM slowing down my memory timing, but preventing the appearance of the all mighty evil SwaP
- A ATI All-In-Wonder Rage128 16MB
- A Creative SoundBlaster Live! Value
- A Realtek 8139 Ethernet NIC
- My beloved USR 56Kbps ISA Real Modem. Sorry but to me a component that uses CPU power to do it's processing instead of taking the load off is not worthy of being in my computer. Not to mention the M$ Win part...
- A Creative 48x CD-ROM drive. It's the loudest damned thing in my computer when it's spinning
- A Quantum Fireball AS PLUS 40GB (7200RPM) in a removable tray
- A Quantum Fireball CX1 10GB (5400RPM) mounted inside the case
- Of course the stupid old 1.44 MB floppy drive only used for booting Tomsbrt in case of emergency
Soon to be
:
- A Adaptec 2940UW
- A Diamond Monster 3D II for Glide games
It turn out that the Quantum Fireball AS makes less noise than the Quantum Fireball CX1. I still have to figure it out
...I use my PC for
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- Running Linux and learning as much as time allows me (Jez I had so much time when I was a student... Think of all the time I wasted in High-School running the evil W monster)
- Doing some gaming i.e. : Diablo II, Unreal, UT, Undying (Although that thing is going to cost me a new box)
- Spending numerous nights filling my brain @ Slashdot, Tomshardware, Anandtech, Arstechnica, StorageReview, Developper.Intel.com, and most importantly, hounding the web for all the case manufacturers and their take at a quiet box.
As I'm writing this post, that is probably going to be the base documentation for my Silent Case Project, you're guessing that my sleepless night of browsing have not yielded the desired result.
I've check out many options such as water cooling, moving the PC to the closet, returning to the forest where a PC is pretty far from your everyday quest for survival. None of them suits me.
The objective of my project is to build a case that meets the following criteria
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- A silent as possible
- Accessible
- Provides sufficient ventilation to maintain all the components running within thermal specs
- Be light enough to be easily transportable (Let's not forget the Lan parties
;-)
To attain those goals I have to
:- Read all I can about noise, sound, aerodynamics, PC specs
- Find suitable materials : A case is not just a protection against unwanted fingers and dust ; it must provide EMI shielding, proper grounding, resist to impacts, and fit into my conception of the king of object you want in your bedroom (If you were thinking about plywood and a box of rusted leftover nails, forget it)
- Find the tools or the companies or individuals with the means to work the materials I choose to build the casing
For the sound isolation I was thinking about some kind of foam. Mineral lint would be affective but that takes too much space and it's not the kind of thing I want beside my bed. Form the casing itself, metal is almost inevitable if you want EMI shielding and grounding. And as for you who wonder why I have not mentioned water cooling yet, the greatest source of noise is not my CPU cooler and your just moving the problem out of the case (Nice ; you have water heating up but unless your reservoir is like a bathtub or something you will have to transfer the heat for the water to the air).
That about as far as I am. If you have any idea that might help me, please fell free to send me some bits forming ASCII characters at Prozzaks@operamail.com
To finish up, here is a list of thing that might help people wanting to achieve similar goals
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- http://www.formfactors.org/ You should be able to find all the documents regarding the ATX form factor and thermal design guides. A must if you want to build a quiet PC.
- http://developer.intel.com/ Intel has contributed a great deal to the ATX definition ; here you will find many relevant documents including thermal design guides for all Intel processors.
- Etract from my favorite's :
Hardware\cases PC CASE
Fong Kai
PowerOn
Enlight Corporation
dir.yahoo Enclosures Manufacturers
procase
YY Computer
Psi
IN WIN
Amtrade
American Suntek
Addtronics
A-Top Technology, Inc
Nikao
Palo Alto Products
Antec
Lian-Li
amaquest
Koolance
Quietpc
PC Power & Cooling
Hardware\Heat Sinks ALPHA
Cooler Master
AVC
ekl
GlobalWIN
globefan
RDJD
Foxconn
Spring Spread
Sanyo Denki
TITAN
TaiSol
ChipCoolers
Orb a
ElanVital
Hardware\Info\Form Factor Platform Development Support
SSI
WTX
Hardware\Info\Standards Fibre Channel Industry Association
PCI SIG
RAB
serialata
SPEC
Hardware\Info\Storage RAID.edu
Hardware\Info\Cours CS 252 - Graduate Computer Architecture
Hardware\Info The PC Guide!
Hardware Bible
FullOn3D
developer.intel.com
HwB The Hardware Book
United Overclockers
Ars Technica
Tech-Junkie
HardwarePub
Webopedia
Illustrated Guide to the PC Hardware
SysOpt
2CPU
Ace's Hardware
Technical Support - RaidHelp v1.0 - Free RAID Technology Guide
Computer Architecture
OPENCORES.ORG
TechFest
MidWest Micro Support
Hardware\Resalers GeekTek!
Micro-Bytes
ALCO
ABC Micro
2CoolTek
Plycon Computers
TCWO
ABC Micro - Lprix
Case Outlet
The Chip Merchant, Inc
Cimsys
OrdiGros
ALIENWARE
SHENTECH
FireStorm
Hyper Microsystems
TWEAKBOX
Hardware\Reviews Tom's Hardware Guide
Sharky Extreme
StorageReview
HardOCP
AnandTech
SystemLogic
x-bit labs
Active-Hardware
FiringSquad
SocketA
Overclockers Australia
HEXUS
dansdata
SysReview
Hardware\Manufacturers AMD
ASUS
Belkin
MassMultiples
Promise
StarTech
VIA Technologies, Inc
ABIT Computer Corp
Comcase
Micron Semiconductor
ECS
Hardware Freeboxen
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OC possibilities....*grins*
I can just imagine it know...
Cries of "I have 12 fans on my computer" from all the OC sites will rapidly be replaced by "I have 300,000 fans on my computer!" However, things like Sub-zero alcohol cooled PC's will never change.
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Conclusion?All in all, it's been demonstrated that a system can actually run at sub zero temperatures.
Um, if that was the whole point of this experiment....wasn't it a bit redundant? I mean, people have chilled their systems beyond this point, many with better results. What was the point?
Anyway, the technique they used wasn't a very good one. The best way to cool a system is DIRECT CONTACT. They placed the motherboard in a bag, and submerged the bag in the chilled alcohol. No doubt, the cool air surrounding the bag lowered the temperature of the board (obvious by the overclocking results), but this is definitely inferior to less elaborate set-ups where cooling is *directly* applied to the system's components.
The results of this experiment weren't all that impressive.
This group was also risking the actual computer system BIG time. The fact they had to [try to] seal the board from the liquid makes this a risky undertaking. I'd feel more comfortable giving my board a bath in something a bit less conductive, like Mineral Oil.
Plus, they like to destroy working laptops. Okay, I can see the 286's being whacked, but those 386's could be used for SOMETHING other than target practice, no?
-- Give him Head? Be a Beacon?