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If you want to see a 3rd world country, come to the US, and visit the 80% of it that still doesn't have cell phone coverage, or the east side towns where people live from hand to mouth. It's a quite different picture frow what Hollywood and Fox shows.

The standard way of measuring cell phone coverage is by percentage of population not area. That's why Sweden when it auctioned off the 3G licenses said that the guy who covers the most of our population get the license. See: http://www.tele2.se/kundservice/tackningskarta.html and http://www.telia.se/privat/kundservice/support/mobiltelefoni/tackningskarta/ that seems to be better than ~70% area coverege, I thought it was worse...

Yeah, not much of an "investor" myself but I got a bunch of shares but from the beginning I wasn't supposed to buy them until closer to MeeGo release, and this was while I still thought it would get released in the beginning of 2011.

But then some stupid bank recommended it raising price by quite a lot. So by stupid impulse I bought because I didn't wanted to buy at an even higher price later, stupid. The next day the new CEO stuff came out which would had been an awesome opportunity for sale but I didn't. Bought more like around three weeks ago when they where lower again but didn't sold while I had a profit then either and now they are even cheaper again :D

But I don't want to get even more just in case.. I think. Because I don't trust they will ever become _TEH AWESOME_.

Could have had one part which I would keep into the future and one part which I eventually swing-traded in case the price will keep on doing what it does now. If it would start to go up I would still had some and if it would had dropped down then I could just had bought more for the next movement upwards. Anyway, boring stock :D

Sure MeeGo may work but on the other hand I wanted the price to drop enough because everything would be so much fail, which it is, but it's not as good now when I own them ;D

And last I heard MeeGo 1.2 was supposed to have all applications and come by April so that mean phones then? Summer 2011? H2 2011?

I've got no problem keeping them into end of 2011-2012 but Nokia is really superior at screwing up :D

Release _ONE_ phone with their new OS?
Keep developing Symbian?
Don't get into Android to?
Delay N8 by like half a year?
Delay (?) MeeGo to?

Awesome :D

It's like the opposite of Apple ;)

They got quite a bit of cash though so I guess they can survive doing lots of stupid things for a while. But they better do something right to ;)

Atleast the N8 is rather popular here.
#3 http://katshing.se/
#2 http://www.telia.se/privat/produkter_tjanster/mobilt/produkterocherbjudanden/
#2 http://www.prisjakt.nu/kategori.php?k=103&o=lokal_rank
#2 http://www.phonehouse.se/Mobiltelefoner/Mobilvaljare

I assume the Telia and phonehouse links is in order at least.

So after iPhone4 + Nokia 1616 (250 SEK = 36 dollar with no subscription) on the first one, HTC Desire HD on the second and third and HTC Gratia on the last one.

If only it had MeeGo, or was the E7 at least ;D

Time will tell :)

this is already a reality in sweden for $140/month by "telia".

sorry but the link is in swedish, try babelfish :)
http://www.telia.se/privat/produkter_tjanster/bredband/bredbandvianatverksuttaget/fiberlan/

Have a look at Telia's coverage map for Sweden. Notice all that green? That is where your phone will work. Population density in the north is lower than 2 humans per square kilometer. Are there maps like these for the US?

Some 95% of swedens (20 inhabitants/km2, 31 in the us) population is covered by 3g...

http://www.telia.se/privat/produkter_tjanster/mobilt/tackningskartor/tackningskarta3g-gsm/
http://www.tre.se/templates/Page.aspx?id=172
http://www.telenor.se/250.jsp

(disclaimer: Translated by me (poorly)
source: http://www.telia.se/privat/kundservice/telia_cogent.page?sl=teliase_aktuelltprv1

"Vad är det som har hänt?
Torsdag 13 mars kl 23.00 stängde Cogent, en amerikansk Internet Service Provider (ISP), förbindelserna mellan TeliaSonera International Carrier (TSIC) och dem. Frånkopplingen innebär att del av Telia kunder inte kommer att nå en del av Cogents kunder."

What have happened?
Thurs. 13th of March ar 11.00 PM Cogent, an american ISP, closed the connection between TSIC and them. The disconnection results in that some of Telia's costumers won't be able to reach some of Cogent's costumers.

Varför har problemet uppstått?
Det rör ett så kallat peering-avtal.

Why have the problem come about?
It has to do with a so called peering-agreement.

När blir problemet löst?
Vi kan ännu inte säga när problemet blir löst, men den viktigaste trafiken kommer gå via alternativa vägar.

When will the problem be solved?
We cannot say when it will be solved, but the most important traffic will go by alternate routes.

Vilka kunder drabbas och hur?
Du som kund kan drabbas om du försöker besöka en sajt som inte har någon "alternativ väg", det vill säga den nås endast via Cogent eller Telia. Detta är ett mycket begränsat antal webbplatser.

Which costumers are being affected and how?
You as a costumer can be affected if you try to visit a site that does not have an "alternate route", in other words it can only be reached by way of Cogent or Telia. This is a very limited number of websites.

Har ni styrt om trafik eller kommer ni att göra det?
TeliaSonera International Carrier har ingen möjlighet att styra om så kallad peering-trafik.

Have you re-routed traffic or will you do so?
TSIC has no possibility to re-rout so called peering-trafic.

Är det första gången som Telia har detta problem med Cogent?
Ja, det stämmer.

Is this the first time that Telia has this problem with Cogent?
Yes, that is correct. /translation

I reside in Stockholm, Sweden and get about 13/1 Mbit from my provider (Bredbandsbolaget - litteraly the Broadband Company) thru DSL. It's not from the Landline-operator (Telia). I pay 399 sek, which is roughly $50 including VAT. There are cheaper operators, but I like the fact that I don't have DHCP. Prices go down to about 299 SEK ($40). I don't really know anyone surfing with less than 8Mbit either... 0,5Mbit isn't very popular here... It's dirt cheap though, $20. Much of the progress Sweden has seen in pricing and speed has been due to the goverment giving subsidies for building in rural areas and because Bredbandsbolaget seemed to make it their business to give everyone 10Mbit (this was about 6-7 years ago) thru Ethernet. A year ago they upped all their customers (Ethernet-customers) to 100/10... Thanks!

Of course, the ISP:s aren't refusing to identify customers because they're a bunch of swell guys. They make a bunch of money selling fast broadband connections, where the faster ones are primarily used by file sharers. Forwarding warning letters would also be a bunch of extra work, and they have nothing to gain - they'll just lose customers.

The only solution is legal download services. TV shows, which make up a large part of the traffic, are distributed in an antiquated fashion, and the technology is here to change that.

Imagine if music was distributed the same way that TV shows are. The new song of your favourite artist would only play on radio stations in the US, where it's interrupted by commercials halfway through. After a couple of months it'd start to play on radio stations in the rest of the world. Only after a year would you be able to buy the CD in a store, but it would be protected by DRM so you couldn't pick it up a few months early on your visit abroad. Bizarre, isn't it?

Let's hope iTunes TV download service turns out well, so we can finally get fast, legal downloads at a decent price.

When GSM positioning appeared a few years back, finding your friends was one of the "cool" things you could do. I don't know if it really took off, but a colleague of mine used it to track her teenage daughter (who hadn't figured out you could turn it off...).

The service is still available with Telia.

Lalallaal ;)

I pay 100 SEK (around 11) extra per month for GPRS connectivity with Telia. That includes 5 MB of data (I think), any more is charged extra. It works well and I think it's an okay deal.

In Stockholm, Sweden, the city ran fibre everywhere in rings around the city, and then set up Stokab A/B to run the infrastructure, and sell access to it on a non-discriminatory basis. It is important to note that this is in no way related to the Swedish telephone company, Telia which can buy transit across this fibre, but also has to compete with other telecomm companies that use this fibre.

That's how it is supposed to be done: a separate, disinterested company running and selling acess to the infrastructure, with service companies competing with each other on top of that.

The frustrating thing for me is watching the City of Palo Alto, California (a neighboring city), which also has a fibre infrastructure, but they keep arguing over what to do with it, and thus do nothing!

This is not the first time this has happened. If you read Telia's press release they state "SAS will be the first European airline to implement this wireless technology on board their planes." If you read on a bit into the Tenzing site, Air Canada is starting a free Beta test of this technology here.

Now I fly a lot and this sounds like it's really going to take off, pardon the pun, but why are Air Canada and SAS the first? I would have expected this from one of the bigger airlines like United or something. Air Canada is a member or United's Star Aliance though. I guess if this works well, we may see this everywhere!

Dissenter

here in sweden, one of telco companies (telia) is offering some kind of voice over ip telephony. this thing is called "mikrosamtal" and is much cheaper than ordinary telephony. right now you can only call outside of sweden with "mikrosamtal" and quality is somewhat worse than ordinary telephony but i'm happy to use it because i get to pay 50% less for every call. most of the time you dont even hear difference.
so voice over ip works.

if you know swedish you can find more info on http://www.teli a.se/bvo/info/gen_info.jsp.html?OID=72622&CID=-233 65

• Phones are almost always sold together with a subscription, which makes the cost of the actual phone very small, but on the other hand ties the customer up for some period of time. The cheapeast phones are around 1 SEK (roughly 13 cents US), but you need to add the cost of the subscription to that. It is still possible to buy phones without a subscription, but few do because of the perceived high price.
• You can buy a phone with a special SIM card that includes phone time, so you don't need a subscription. Such phones are often tied for 12 months to the provider.
• Also, the costs for making calls vary greatly among countries here. Among the Nordic countries, I think Sweden is the most expensive country to call in. For me, for example, a call during day time (7 AM to 7 PM) costs 5.50 SEK per minute (that'd be rougly 60 cents US).
• I don't know how many networks and/or providers there are in other Nordic or European countries, but in Sweden there are basically three GSM providers: Telia, Europolitan and Comviq. Each of these three have more or less nation-wide coverage in their own networks. Roaming between nets is illegal.