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Re:Staying Competitive: Europe vs. USA by sumdumass · 2006-01-15 12:00 · Score: 1 · on Galileo Sends Its First Signals

So you might ask, how come that you can find such damning data on a site called "gunowner.org" ? And how can they use them to support the idea that gun control = higher crimes ? Easy: they conflate homicides with suicides ! When you add suicides to homicides, you find fewer victims in the US than in other countries ! Ergo, gun control kills people, QED !

So, in these wonderfull socialist guncontrol happy countries the argument stands as if you count the people who cannot take it anymore and kill themselves, you get a higher rate then if you don't count them so we have to seperate them. I think we are missing somethign here also. It doesn't answer how the homicide or suicide is commited. They could be with baseball bats or AXES or guns. But this isn't the point of my post at all.

My reply was to a post that said

Americans conveniently overlook the fact that Europeans have chosen to be a bit more socialist in their economic policies in order to build kinder and gentler societies. Just compare the crime rates between the USA and Europe. The Europeans have largely succeeded.

I seem to think they didn't succeed at anything by this other then burdoning thier citizens. I came to this conclusion by comparing crime rates as he asked. Others in this thread are skirting around this issue because one of the links I provided was from a pro-gun-site. I posted that after I found links in the original site to be dead. Concentrating on different types of crime does nothing to negate the fact that "reported" crime is higher in EU countries then the US. They may not be as violent but they are still crimes.

So asuming your stats are corect,(I believe you have no reason to lie but i didn't check), We can make any number of statments about this. One might be that if you are lucky enough not to kill yourself, you are less likley to get killed by others while more likley to have some crime comitted agasint you in EU countries then USA. Don't confuse some site i linked to, with me arguing that gun control kills. It was just support that the crime rates are higher or the same in some situations.

Re:"Private" Streetlamp Wi-Fi Networks by exp(pi*sqrt(163)) · 2005-06-11 09:24 · Score: 1 · on Municipal Wi-Fi Networks in London, Alexandria

Try shouting at them!

Re:Told to IGNORE RATINGS by Anonymous Coward · 2005-03-03 04:37 · Score: 0 · on British Goverment to Reshape BBC Governance

Exactly. This article has more about that.

My ORIGINAL link--avoid the ad by bonch · 2005-02-18 13:39 · Score: 5, Informative · on Star Wars Episode III To Open Cannes

Not sure why my submission was switched around to link to an IGN article that linked to the ThisIsLondon, which would have bypassed the big ad you're forced to click through. I also didn't say Cannes had "gone to the dark side"--the original article was cheesy enough.

Re:Is this news? by jgardn · 2004-09-30 17:15 · Score: 2, Informative · on Senator Alleges White House Wrote Allawi's Speech

I'll debate you on the facts.

First, we have not killed thousands of innocents. Sure, maybe during Vietnam or the Korean War or World War II, but not during the Iraq wars. I'd like to see your source. The reason we don't hear about it is because it hasn't happened. That's the same reason why you haven't heard about the six billion dollars I made selling lemonade.

If you would like to know who has killed thousands of innocent Iraqis, look to Saddam Hussein. Look at the mass graves. (link, link, and link) Look at the torture he has inflicted. (link, link, link)

I don't know how that even compares to the limited number of casualties that the US Forces caused. It doesn't even compare with what happened at Abu Ghraib. Nevertheless, America as a country is pursuing justice. Already, one of the perpetrators has been heavily sentenced. The others will be punished shortly. At least they get a fair trial.

Now, I know I won't sway you with my words or my evidence, because you have already seen the evidence. You are like the monkey who refuses to see and hear the atrocities committed against the people in Iraq. You then turn around and make a mountain out of a molehill, comparing the abuse that some prisoners suffered at the hand of American soldiers to the torture and suffering that Saddam caused.

I looked for accurate data on the number of civilians killed in Iraq by American soldiers. There is no such number reported anywhere. And the numbers of civilians killed isn't even accurate. Some say 25,000. Others say 6,000. Which one is right? Why are they so different? It's easy. They are not accurate. No one has done an actual body count. No one has done a count where civilians were distinguished from terrorists, insurgents, and the Iraqi military. Unfortunately, you can't ask the dead whether they were innocent or a terrorist. And you can't tell by what clothes they were wearing or even their age.

Your lies stop here.

It's way too expensive also. by wackoman2112 · 2003-07-03 03:48 · Score: 5, Interesting · on Lexmark DMCA Case Winds On

According to ThisIsLondon, Ink for home printers are 7 times more expensive than vintage champagne.

They also claim that ignoring low ink warnings can double the life of ink cartridges. I wish I could ignore the warnings, as my Lexmark printer forbids me to print once 75% of ink is gone!

Those greedy pigs!

It's way too expensive also. by wackoman2112 · 2003-07-03 03:48 · Score: 5, Interesting · on Lexmark DMCA Case Winds On

According to ThisIsLondon, Ink for home printers are 7 times more expensive than vintage champagne.

They also claim that ignoring low ink warnings can double the life of ink cartridges. I wish I could ignore the warnings, as my Lexmark printer forbids me to print once 75% of ink is gone!

Those greedy pigs!

Re:Waiter ! by frieked · 2003-07-03 03:24 · Score: 4, Informative · on Lexmark DMCA Case Winds On

Here's the article he's getting his info from in case anyone is interested.

Yep by md81544 · 2003-06-11 10:50 · Score: 2, Funny · on FTC Wants Secret Spam Investigation Powers

I'm comfortable with this... in fact I'm hoping this is what the alleged death chamber at Guantanamo Bay is earmarked for.

Reported Earlier by Townshend · 2003-03-09 09:13 · Score: 1 · on Surgeon Says Face Transplants a Reality

This was reported earlier in This Is London: http://www.thisislondon.com/news/articles/3609267? source=Evening%20Standard. No reg required ;-).

( .hj by Anonymous Coward · 2002-07-31 18:56 · Score: -1, Offtopic · on Matchbox -- a Small Footprint Window Manager

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What do you think of that? by Mulletproof · 2002-05-21 04:06 · Score: 0, Offtopic · on A New Kind of Science

This has nothing to do with the post. It has everything to do with how a rant on a two year old bad movie can get posted, but a story on genetic manipulation won't. Yes, it's grousing, but dammit, i'm tired of this crap. So here it is in all it's off-topic glory...

The picture alone is worth the read. An Isreali genetics expert has engineered the worlds first naked chicken. This new breed of chicken has no feathers, grows faster and produces less fast than the average clucker. He's almost kinda cute in a tasty, space alien sort of way...

Fascism must stop right here, right now by October_30th · 2002-04-22 03:23 · Score: -1 · on Zope Bible

Sayings of Le Pen.

Re:Terrorist threat? by BlueUnderwear · 2002-01-12 00:12 · Score: 2 · on Computer Chips Exploding for Science

Yes, of course they would. The same way that they put explosives in shoes. "They" being of course the terrorists.

And compare london... by jim68000 · 2000-05-30 20:13 · Score: 1 · on The High Cost of Valley Living

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