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At one point back in the '90s, the highway speed limit in Montana was "reasonable and prudent".

Do you know how I can tell you've never driven in "reasonable and prudent" Montana? There are no speed limits except for trucks. So therefore, how could the posted speed limit be 65?

http://www.us-highways.com/montana/reasonable.htm
http://www.us-highways.com/montana/mtspeed.htm

However, that law doesn't appear to be in effect anymore. reasonable and prudent was literally, what you and the officer agree is a safe speed due to the conditions. If it is 80, go 80.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speed_limits_in_the_United_States#Montana

Do you know how I can tell you've never driven in "reasonable and prudent" Montana? There are no speed limits except for trucks. So therefore, how could the posted speed limit be 65?

http://www.us-highways.com/montana/reasonable.htm
http://www.us-highways.com/montana/mtspeed.htm

However, that law doesn't appear to be in effect anymore. reasonable and prudent was literally, what you and the officer agree is a safe speed due to the conditions. If it is 80, go 80.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speed_limits_in_the_United_States#Montana

Have mod points right now, but wanted to get your 10+ year old stale knowledge updated a bit instead.....Actually, Montana has had a set speed limit since May 28, 1999 as Montana was threatened by the federal government that it would withhold all highway funding unless Montana would enact speed limits. Just FYI, this is one of the main ways the federal government controls state governments; by withholding funds.

Take a look at http://www.us-highways.com/montana/mtspeed.htm for more info on current Montana speeds based on type of vehicle. In case you don't want to click the link, this means that for cars during daylight hours, the maximum speed limit on interstate highways is 75 mph (or 120.7008 kph).

In addition, during the time when Montana "didn't have a speed limit", the rule of the road during daytime driving was to drive in a "Reasonable and Prudent" way. Requiring people to THINK when driving is so much safer.

Here is the text from http://www.us-highways.com/montana/reasonable.htm

What was Reasonable and Prudent?
Basic Rule Speed Restriction

Motorists were to comply with the "basic rule" speed limit when they drove, in a manner that did not unreasonably endanger other highway users. To ensure this, drivers were to be constantly alert to changing traffic conditions and adjust their speed as conditions varied. These conditions were numerous and could change rapidly. Thus drivers were to be alert for:

        * the amount and type of traffic sharing the highway with them. The traffic could have been heavy or light and may have included trucks, cars, motorhomes, farm equipment, and motorcycles.
        * changing weather conditions that could have affected driver visibility and road conditions. These conditions could have included fog or snow and road surface conditions such as water or ice.
        * the type of vehicle they were driving, particularly the condition of their brakes and the weight of their vehicle, which affects braking ability.
        * the character of the highway they were driving. Drivers were to adjust their speed for hills or for winding and narrow roads.
        * the presence of intersections, railway grade crossings or pedestrians.

Driving in a careful and prudent manner, complying with the basic rule, required drivers to be constantly alert and mindful of their personal responsibility not only for their own safety but also for that of other highway users.

Have mod points right now, but wanted to get your 10+ year old stale knowledge updated a bit instead.....Actually, Montana has had a set speed limit since May 28, 1999 as Montana was threatened by the federal government that it would withhold all highway funding unless Montana would enact speed limits. Just FYI, this is one of the main ways the federal government controls state governments; by withholding funds.

Take a look at http://www.us-highways.com/montana/mtspeed.htm for more info on current Montana speeds based on type of vehicle. In case you don't want to click the link, this means that for cars during daylight hours, the maximum speed limit on interstate highways is 75 mph (or 120.7008 kph).

In addition, during the time when Montana "didn't have a speed limit", the rule of the road during daytime driving was to drive in a "Reasonable and Prudent" way. Requiring people to THINK when driving is so much safer.

Here is the text from http://www.us-highways.com/montana/reasonable.htm

What was Reasonable and Prudent?
Basic Rule Speed Restriction

Motorists were to comply with the "basic rule" speed limit when they drove, in a manner that did not unreasonably endanger other highway users. To ensure this, drivers were to be constantly alert to changing traffic conditions and adjust their speed as conditions varied. These conditions were numerous and could change rapidly. Thus drivers were to be alert for:

        * the amount and type of traffic sharing the highway with them. The traffic could have been heavy or light and may have included trucks, cars, motorhomes, farm equipment, and motorcycles.
        * changing weather conditions that could have affected driver visibility and road conditions. These conditions could have included fog or snow and road surface conditions such as water or ice.
        * the type of vehicle they were driving, particularly the condition of their brakes and the weight of their vehicle, which affects braking ability.
        * the character of the highway they were driving. Drivers were to adjust their speed for hills or for winding and narrow roads.
        * the presence of intersections, railway grade crossings or pedestrians.

Driving in a careful and prudent manner, complying with the basic rule, required drivers to be constantly alert and mindful of their personal responsibility not only for their own safety but also for that of other highway users.

Care to cite a source or provide an example? In 1999 the unrestricted speed limit on public highways was eliminated after 4 years of Montanabahn. There may be other "areas" but they are likely a) race tracks or b) off-road.

http://www.us-highways.com/montana/mtspeed.htm

That was Montana from 1995-1999.

Misleading statistic. You're referring to the number of miles rather than the number of roads, which is not as accurate. According to http://www.us-highways.com/us1830.htm*, 323 national highways account for about 150 000 miles. So yes, it's a lot of roadway, but it's not that many roads compared to how many there must be across the country. I'm sure even a small suburban area has more roads than that.

On the other hand, the point still stands that there are a lot of roads - it's the small ones in suburban areas that probably cause the most trouble (I'm guessing) since there's much more of them, they tend to have stranger geometries, there's less traffic so there's less need to send someone out with a GPS to map it (or however the mapping is done).

On a side note, has the GP tried to e-mail Google to try to get the mapping error fixed?

*Used that site instead of Wikipedia cause the data was easier to import into a spreadsheet.

Until I see the video I will give them the benefit of the doubt about being safe. Many people think driving fast equates to being irresponsible. It is not that simple. Sure the risk is higher the faster you go, but how many of you have driven well over 100 mph for 100s of miles.

Theoretically they could have completed this in a mini van. The obstacle was not traffic it was being caught. The rules they broke are arbitrarily set, and the parent poster is short chill-pills. IMHO, does not warrant a felony.

Many years ago in most western states the speed limit was 'reasonable and prudent.' The capabilities of the automobiles in the 50's to early 60's were just awful. 4 wheel drum brakes, bias-ply tires, and poor suspension.

Point is when the limits were highest the cars ability to brake, turn and stop were the WORST. Driving faster than the current speed limits is not harmful.

Montana defined 'Reasonable and Prudent' - now history
http://www.us-highways.com/montana/reasonable.htm

Not exactly.

Standard's regional operating companies grew stronger than ever after the break-up and simply absorbed the little guys---a small reminder that anti-trust campaigns are notoriously short-lived and rarely end as they begin---and a lesson in history for the Geek who still believes that the break-up of Microsoft would have been a good thing.

Whatever Happened to Standard Oil? A highly abridged history of the petroleum companies that have used the 'Standard' brand name.

If there's no speed limit (montana speed limits), is it really speeding?

Montana's speed limit for autos during the day was "Reasonable and Prudent"

Info and definition of reasonable and prudent

Of course no one wanted to drive there anymore, cause honestly, who wants to be a prude?

And that's why they had to change it, due to lack of drivers

-Mikey P

Well, you don't see Standard Oil selling kerosene as such since it was broken up as a monopoly in 1911
- but you can bet SOMEBODY sells a heck of a lot of kerosene since it's used as jet fuel.

Nobody stays on top forever. In fact, the really big dogs who like to abuse their power are the ones who tend to fall apart the fastest.

Microsoft is a big, inflexible company. I'm not saying they're going to go chapter 11 or anything, but I do believe that they might become startlingly irrelevant in a very short amount of time like IBM did in the 80's-90's. Ironically, for IBM, it was an inability to see the OS as the real market; for MS, it'll be an inability to see that the OS is no longer the real market...

A government decreed break up of a company worked for Standard Oil.