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You joke, but Westinghouse already is selling TVs that require an activation code before they will receive over the air broadcasts. The codes are currently free. http://westinghousedigital.com/support/tunercode/

OTA broadcast reception is the primary purpose of a TV.

Westinghouse doesn't fab LCD panels do they?

Well, you could simply declare that multiple monitors is for losers and get a QuadHD (3840x2160) LCD instead, like say this one. It's only supposed to set you back 50,000$ or so. A 2160 cinema projector can easily set you back a few hundred thousands if that's not enough. There's always options if you have enough money...

Buy two, or even three, use in portrait mode. Two will get you 2400x1920, a little square for my liking, three will get you 3600x1920, for only $150 more than the 2560x1600 Apple ($650 apiece).

In contrast, the Apple 23" has less viewing angle, no HDMI (nor indeed anything but DVI), twice the response time. Design looks good, but so does the Westinghouse.

I know I'm happy with it.

DVI-D x 2 (HDCP support) / RCA (L/R) x 2 DVI1 & DVI2 supports up to 1080P

https://www.westinghousedigital.com/pc-44-7-42-108 0p-monitor.aspx

While this probably isn't a brand that people search out, it's a solid monitor that has three digital inputs: 1 HDMI, 2 DVI; and it has several analog inputs: 1 vga, 2 component, 1 svideo, 1 composite. All three digital inputs have HDCP, which I know people may baulk at, but the bottom line is that you'll need that support for HD-DVD and Blu-Ray players. My cable box is only capable of 1080i, but I have connected two of my PC's to it and get true 1920 x 1080 resolution, which was reason enough for me to buy it. I had a 10 year-old CRT-based TV and wanted a new HDTV I could hang on the wall to eliminte my entertainment center. When you can get a 42" LCD (no burn-in worries for console or computer use) with 1080p output for a bit over $1500 US, why on earth would you spend more $$ to get something with lower resolution ? Maybe there are very few things that use 1080p right now, but I expect to use this for more than 5 years, and I'm sure in 2 years it will be common place. I consider $1500 to be a huge (bordering on excessive) expense for a TV, so I want it to last a long time. So having 1080p will not leave me wishing I had higher resolution down the line. It's less expensive than most other brands, even in the 37" range, and prices keep dropping....

I spent nearly 5 months looking for a TV which had a NATIVE 1080p resolution (1920x1080) and that would accept a 1080p signal on component, DVI and HDMI inputs. I was never able to find one that supported 1080p over component inputs but I finally found an affordable unit in the Westinghouse LVM-42w2 that did provide all the other functionality that I wanted.

I didn't find any sets during my research that could accept 1080p over component cables even in the $6K to $10K range.

My guess is that Microsoft will release a new cable in either VGA, DVI, or HDMI format in order to allow people to actually enjoy the benefits of a true 1080p signal.

About a month ago, after wanting a flat panel television for 10+ years, I bought the Westinghouse LVM-42w2. Far as I know it does support 1080p over all its inputs that it would apply to. Here is a link about the monitor (yes, no tuner built in):

http://www.westinghousedigital.com/pc-44-7-42-1080 p-monitor.aspx

I currently have my XBOX 360 setup for 1080i, and my computer hooked up over DVI. I have a dual montior setup, so the LVM-42w2 gets my secondary desktop at 1920*1080 and my 20'' widescreen (Dell) gets 1680*1200 or something similar. .

However, maybe I am wrong, but I thought the 360 did not upsample DVD's, only games. I can not remember where I read that. Anyway, I am very happy about this coming upgrade as I am sure while maybe minor to my eyes, it will still be appreicate.

By the way, for those wanting to know. I got it at Best Buy (yeah yeah I know I know), for 1700 dollars. Delivered next day. Also, I had to look online for what other users had done for the settings, and followed them and that helped greatly. As for the supposed power issue, I have version 1.0 (I think they are up to 1.16 or something), and never had it happen to me. But if it does, Westinghouse will come and flash your monitor for you to fix it.

Both the VGA cable and the Component cable do support 1080p. The only issue is that most of the 1080p TVs sold do not support 1080p over component. There are some exceptions, but generally they don't. But there's a lot more TVs that accept VGA and DVI, which will handle 1080p fine.

This still doesn't answer the ICT question of course, so we should assume that ICT protected movies wont work. It sucks, but the less DRM support around, the better.

After checking bestbuy.ca and futureshop.ca I found 1 1080P HDTV and it was not 1000 bucks, it wasn't even close.. I've only seen a 1080p TV in a super high end audio/video store.

One 1080p TV from Outpost.com (Fry's Electronics) for under $1000 right here.

http://shop3.outpost.com/product/4860630?site=sr:S EARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG

Too bad it won't take a 1080p signal. You've fallen for one of the great wonders of the video world, advertising scalled inputs resolutions while actual native input resolution being something different hidden amongst the fine print.

Westinghouse Digital has almost single-handedly pulled retail prices for quality flat panels down to earth. Its first breakthrough, a little more than a year ago, was the LVM-37W1, a 37" 1080p model which by Christmastime was selling for $1,600. Just a couple of months ago, it released the LVM-47W1, a 47" 1080p model which Crutchfield sells for $2,499 with free shipping and no sales tax outside Virginia. (Who could have imagined a 47", 5"-thick panel that can handle 1920x1080 for under $5,000 a year or even six months ago?!?)

Attaching the panel to a MythTV system and using Bob deinterlacing to double the framerate results in true 1080p video output from ordinary 1080i content that's *better* than anything else out there.

Westinghouse Digital has almost single-handedly pulled retail prices for quality flat panels down to earth. Its first breakthrough, a little more than a year ago, was the LVM-37W1, a 37" 1080p model which by Christmastime was selling for $1,600. Just a couple of months ago, it released the LVM-47W1, a 47" 1080p model which Crutchfield sells for $2,499 with free shipping and no sales tax outside Virginia. (Who could have imagined a 47", 5"-thick panel that can handle 1920x1080 for under $5,000 a year or even six months ago?!?)

Attaching the panel to a MythTV system and using Bob deinterlacing to double the framerate results in true 1080p video output from ordinary 1080i content that's *better* than anything else out there.

Very savvy consumers will hack together ["PC-TV hybrid"] setups themselves.

Yes, we are indeed building them ourselves. However, we are doing so primarily because we can't find what we want on sale anywhere for any price. The below is an adapted version of a recent Usenet post of mine describing what I have come to daily take for granted with my high-definition MythTV setup:
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. . . MythTV works, and works well, for those who are interested in a "HD TiVo" without any of TiVo's limitations. I must admit to chuckling whenever I see a question in alt.tv.tech.hdtv or elsewhere asking how to record from a HD video source with a computer in terms that make it clear the poster and the respondents view the task as something akin to cavemen discovering fire.

I work long, long hours and, when I get home, often don't have any more energy left to do more than want to just relax in front of the tube. When I do so, I want to have as much choice in what to watch as possible. Let me tell one and all of what I with 100% reliability do with my MythTV setup every day:

• Push a button on the remote[1] to wake the 47" 1080p[2] LCD panel[3] from its DPMS slumber.
• Pick from a gigantic library[4] of high-definition programs that MythTV constantly adds to[5] based on my choices.[6]
• While playing the program, rewind, fast-forward, and jump to arbitrary points as desired. I can also adjust the playback speed anywhere from 0.5X to 2X without affecting audio pitch.[7]
• I can push a button to instantly and accurately skip over commercials.[8] If I've gone too far, another button will skip me back to the previous spot.
• If I exit a recording, the next time I watch it the playback will continue where I left off.[9]
• If I ever need to restart MythTV, pushing a button on my remote twice within three seconds will cause it to do so.[10]
• If I want, I can run MythTV on my MacBook and watch the exact same programs[11] with the exact same elegant and attractive user interface.[12]
• All this time, MythTV is silently recording yet more for me to watch.[13]

If any of this intrigues you, I recommend visiting:

• The MythTV Wiki and the mythtv-users mailing list archive, the two largest repositories of MythTV knowledge.
• The terrific Fedora Core-based installation guide I used.
• A well-regarded MythTV reference design for those who want to either buy it off the shelf from the vendor or build it themselves. I'm neither a customer nor an employee; all I did for my own setup was buy a Sony Pentium 4 system on sale at Fry's then add the video card, ATSC capture card, gigabit Ethernet card, remote, and NAS. However, in retrospect, there's something to be said for buying at once all the parts except the NAS in one convenient, already-integrated form.

[1] Home Theater Master MX-500 universal remote. I programmed it using a $30 infrared keyboard/mouse combo.

[2] MythTV does an *excellent* job of deinterlacing 1080i recordings into 1080p for those displays that can handle it. Any Nvidia video card from the FX5200 to the present will work.

[3] Westinghouse LVM-47W1. Under $2500 from Crutchfield for 1080p LCD goodness.

[4] MythTV tells me that I have "242 programs, using 1.7 TB (427 hrs 33 mins) out of 1.8 TB (54 GB fr

Here's my current gaming rig, I need SLI to drive the very high resolution 37"(1920X1080) display (anti-aliasing etc.)

CPU: AMD 3700+ SD Overclocked to 2530mhz (230X11 Aircooled 80mm @ 5,500RPM w/ 4 Heatpipes 1.456V 36C/44C) (very loud, my PC is in a seperate sound isolated room...I have been considering water cooling but have yet to take the plunge)
Board: ASUS A8N-SLI Deluxe
RAM: 4 X 512 OCZ Platinum EL Rev. 2 TCCD (230mhz 2,3,3,5 Aircooled NB 2.8V 37C/41C)
Video: 2 X eVGA 7800GT SLI (stock)
Drive: 74GB WD Raptor
Sound: Sound Blaster X-Fi XtremeMusic + PA2v2 Headphone Amp + Sennheiser HD595 Headphones
PSU: Antec TRUEPOWERII TPII-550 550W Power Supply (not recommended, poor quality control on these...some are fine others are not...I got a not)
Case: CM Stacker
Display: Westinghouse 37" 1920X1080 LCD (best purchase of my life)

37" may seem too large for a PC display, but I sit back in a reclining chair with a viewing distance of about 6 feet. It's so comfortable I can game for 16 hours straight(which I do on occasion).

It's a sweet setup...I'm CPU and fsb limited but I can play almost all games at max settings 1920X1080. Low resolution emulated games (Dos, MAME, Atari ST, NES, commodore, amiga, apple IIgs) etc. all look great on this screen.

And herein lies the problem. The component standard supports 1080p, but almost no consumer equipment does. And I recall reading somewhere (sorry no link) that the low-end PS3 won't either, as its analog encoder isn't capable of it. Nowhere has Sony claimed that the low-end PS3 could do 1080p in any way.

Not that it really needs to. 1080i still looks pretty good for most things, and most game developers would opt for 720p & fancier effects over a plainer 1080p picture. Even movies will look fine, a 1080i segmented-frame signal is as good as 1080p, for a progressive-frame source like film at least.

The one real problem is the ICT, the "flag of Damocles" the studios hold over us. That's enough reason to avoid any non-HDMI movie system IMHO, unless you're OK with also buying a real HDMI player when they inevitably bring it in.

Westinghouse makes a very nice 42" LCD with 1080p resolution. (on both DVI and HDMI connectors) http://www.westinghousedigital.com/c-7-1080p-monit ors.aspx Maybe the HP is the only 65" monitor with 1080p?

In my opinion, based on owning one, I think this is the best:

http://www.jvc.com/product.jsp?productId=PRD420850 2&pathId=125

56" to 70" 1080p, excellent color and contrast, no burnin (from what I hear). I don't know of any video technology that comes close to JVC's implementation of LCoS.

Smoke random crap scraped off the street much? Specs here. Note the "1 HDMI(R)-HDCP" at the top of the list.

Now, it's not 65 inches, which may be what the article author had originally meant by their statement.

The core of our system is the HP Pavilion MD6580N 65" Widescreen Rear-Projection DLP display device. It is currently the only consumer monitor that can accept full 1080p via its HDMI inputs, allowing it to display every last line of high-definition's maximum resolution of 1920x1080.

Except I'd rather eventually watch King Kong on HD-DVD on a 30" than a 19" monitor. Before you tell me to get an HDTV, I'll point out that most of the lower-end models don't actually do true 1080i, let alone 1080p. Furthermore, I don't have the budget to buy a 1080p HDTV and two 19" LCDs. So the sweet spot in the middle could be the Dell 30".

I just bought a brand spanking new LCDTV. Of course, as I'm accustomed, a good 1/4 of the manual was dedicated to the V-Chip function. Never mind explaining how the Clock/Phase on the VGA input works. Anyway I have *never*, and I mean *ever* met *anyone* who used the (mandatory in the U.S.) V-chip.

My personal favorite? If you forget the parental code for the unit, you must put in the 'secret' code. Which is, I shit you not, 0 ... 0 ... 0 ... 0. See the documentation (page 26 of the PDF).

What kind of people honestly go out and spend almost 1,000$ USD on a card every year? What benefits are there? Despite the fact that these hot, sexy cards come out, I don't see any real push to get software out that uses them.

You need a card like this, or two 7800gts in SLI to run games on this badboy.

4XAA at 1920X1080 can send your comp to its knees.

I purchased the Westinghouse LVM-37w1 a few months back from Best Buy for the then-low price of $1850 (I also got 18-months same-as-cash and $120 in gift certificates).

Most slashdotters would probably be surprised to find out that connecting their PC using the RBG or DVI inputs of most HDTVs isn't all it's cracked up to be. I probably spent a year or so researching my next television and something I learned (by visiting AV Science forums) was that using the analog input on most TVs limits you to to a 4:3 resolution of 1024 x 768 or 1280 x 1024. Using DVI was hit and miss: Depending on the make and model of the television, you'd either get a blank screen or be limited to 4:3 resolutions.

There didn't seem to be a television that was completely PC-friendly. Samsung DLPs seemed to be the closest to plug-and-play as you could get. You had to change some settings on the TV and mess around with your display drivers, but you could make full use of every pixel on the screen. The same couldn't be said with most other HDTVs on the market.

Until I'd come across this thread.

Anyway, when I went to check the Westy out it was next to a 37" Sharp AQUOS which is considered by many to be "the best" in it's category. But you know what? After I spent 40 minutes twiddling around with the settings on both televisions I came to the conclusion that while the Sharp had the better picture quality, it wasn't $2000 better. (The 37" Sharp was being sold at $4000 at the time.) There were other factors as well. The native resolution of the Sharp was 1366 x 768 (whereas the Westinghouse runs at 1920 x 1080) and from what I've read at the AVSForums, all the Sharp LCDs are unable to be used as PC monitors without purchasing a Gefen HDCP compliant DVI switch which "fixes" the EDID data coming from the display.

As a television, the "Westy" doesn't have the best picture quality I've seen. (It's black-levels could be better.) But it's not bad, either. As a PC monitor, it's untouchable. It's useful to have so much screen real-estate for coding. And for gaming? Well, Half-Life 2 at 1920 x 1080 is incredible.

Note: The westy doesn't have a tuner (HD or otherwise), hence why it's labeled as a "Video Monitor".

My wife and I were discussing the purchase of a 37" 1080p lcd monitor and mounting it in our bedroom mainly for watching dvd's. I thought that it would be cool to mount a Mac Mini in the wall in order to hide all the wires, and use the bluetooth keyboard and mouse to control it from across the room (in the bed, specifically).

I agree that there are better alternatives...for example: This will give you 30 inches of realestate at 1080i, be HDtv ready and have all the fun things like picture in a picture. Plus that doesn't leave you with a black dividing line down the center of your screen and it does it at a similar price. Granted that it doesn't have as good of a resolution, but given the other things it makes it worth it unless you're doing heavy graphics work.