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Their Cell Network Is Up, Prolly Good For Now
At the speed the revolution is moving for the moment, particularly from the east, I think internal comms is more important than external internet access. And, from the film foreign correspondents have broadcast, it looks like the cell network is still up. So, prolly good to go for now.
For the sake of argument, a 200km link is theoretically possible, based on the 125mi link record established during the 2005 Defcon Wi-fi shootout. They were using 10 and 12' satt dishes, and barely managed simple ssh console connections using unamplified wi-fi. With the heights quoted, I'm going to make a wild-ass guess that there isn't going to be sufficient fresnel clearance to prevent significant reflective signal fade over the Med between Cyrenica and Crete. But, with a few watts amplification, who knows?
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How is this a significant development?
It's long been common knowledge that Wifi can travel over long distances. If you have line of sight transmitting any type of radio signal over long distances is relatively easy. Actually someone has already one-upped this Japanese company - These guys transmitted a Wifi signal over 125 Miles!
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Re:big or small targets?
When is Cisco, D-Link, Netgear, going to learn to turn on encryption by default?
It still astounds me that computers seem to halve people's intelligence. What is WEP going to get you?
Yes, I just karma whored a google search for "WEP encryption break".
Also, I don't use WEP at home, nor do I use any kind of encryption by default at work for our ethernet. In fact, I've only heard of things that are by default encrypted like interbank communication, and I would assume the military might use some encryption between some links, but its not universal.
So please, WAP manufactures, start doing what none of us already do on a daily basis. It will improve security. -
Re:Cool!Hey check it out: That was me in one of those planes. This feat was accomplished before Wi-Fi Toys was on sale, but we used the same procedures in the plane-to-plane link as in the car-to-car links.
Here's a collage (from a powerpoint show) of some of those pics.--
carbolic/Mike O.
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Re:What about...Good ideas! Related to the simple controller concept, check out what they are doing over at the Center for Embedded Networked Censors, they are using Wi-Fi for a lot of sensing systems - a bit like the "smart dust" concept that hits the news every so often.
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carbolic/Mike O.
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Re:Burrrrr!Actually, it's an off-the-shelf Radio Shack $10 soldering iron. The point was to use easy-to-find gear to make the hack work. I used the same iron in these projects.
As for your other points: Step 7 == Tin The Shield, LMR-100 is the most common pigtail for "low-loss" at 2.4GHz, FCC regs tend to encourage experimentation (debateable), and the frikken thing worked over 1 Mile - depsite the under-engineered design flaws.
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Re:I have a question
...since the horizon on flat ground is 25 miles away, how did they manage 55 miles? Must have been some hills involved? If so, then the distance as the crow flies would perhaps be less than 55.1 miles...
Some pics here http://www.wifi-toys.com/wi-fi.php?a=articles&id=2 3 give you a clue. And this caption from the comic strip: "I've got it! There's a secondary road up a canyon that should get you 55 miles away"
Seriously though, we're never going to be talking about inclinations of greater than 10 degrees are we? -
Similar ProductsYesterday on The Screen Savers they pointed out a for-pay satellite viewer that appears to do the same thing as this NASA viewer. Keyhole LT is a consumer-licensed viewer for about $40 and is a way smaller download with a free trial mode. The resolution is not spy-on-your-neighbors great. But you can see who has pools on your block and how many cars are parked in the driveway along with topography data and flyover modes.
For a high-res view but user-interface nightmare, GlobeXplorer has free and subscription imagery online that incorporates aerial photography for less than 1 meter resolution (like way zoomed in.)
Of course, what roxorz is that the NASA prog is free. At least for now!
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carbolic
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Re:DF for wifiNah man. Too slow.
I prefer an Electric Skateboard
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carbolic
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Re:DF for wifiNah man. Too slow.
I prefer an Electric Skateboard
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carbolic
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Re:DF for wifiYes! There's several, of what I call, AP Games using wireless access points. NZWireless in New Zealand performed a treasure hunt in their home town. My pals and I designed a capture the flag game where you drive around the city trying to find an access point. And the traditional foxhunt (or RunningMan) where you seek to find a single AP moving around in an erratic fashion. I prefer using a car since I live in L.A. and don't walk.
In Chapter 11 of my book, Wi-Fi Toys, I describe some of these DF-based AP games in great detail. I love it how these guys are breaking the rules with traditional wireless.
Instead of using access points for boring Internet access, these guys are going extreme and creating a giant video game.
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carbolic
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Re:Let me put what he's saying into geek-talkHe's also talking about *convenience*. By delivering several high-quality HD formatted movies and other content on a hard drive or other flexible media (remember he isn't locked into hard disks yet) he is making it easy to obtain a suite of movies or customizable content (Season 1 of Seinfeld, please.)
If this delivery method is combined with a PVR like TiVo, you can get a bunch of movies that look great on a 65 inch wide screen HDTV. And you only have to order once.
Pirates will always be in the picture, but if it's very convenient, the masses will choose high quality simplicity for their big screen fetish.
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Carbolic
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Re:Creeping Change?Consider how much eBay has to deal with. They are the single biggest online entity in sheer dollar volume with millions of customers. Yet they still try to keep the community the focus. I think that's prevalent even with all of the creeping changes. eBay doesn't want to alienate its own clientelle. That's a noble effort, even with all of the glitches that surround giganticness.
I suspect eBay will treat Cragslist clientelle in the same fashion - community first. Yet, they will be able to bring more recognition (and cities) with their marketing might and R&D dollars.
btw: For a Really Great Look into eBay's origins and culture, check out the book "eBoys" about the early days of eBay and Benchmark Capital, its VC backers.
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carbolic
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Re:i'm suspect at the lack of details.I was there - holding the Nokia out in front of me. TechTV was there filming the test from both sides. It will appear on The Screen Savers at some point.
We used a high gain, 19dBi, panel antenna attached to a Linksys Class 1 Bluetooth adapter - picture.
Using this equipment, last week we transferred a few pictures from 3300 feet (1 km). This week we bluesnarfed from about 5300 feet (1.08 miles).
The whole point of these experiments is to show that Bluetooth can go a lot further than previously suspected. Witness the 55.1 mile link using 30 mw wifi.
Lack of details is because it's in Wired News. Look for a writeup on www.wifi-toys.com later today.
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Carbolic
wifi-toys.com
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Re:i'm suspect at the lack of details.I was there - holding the Nokia out in front of me. TechTV was there filming the test from both sides. It will appear on The Screen Savers at some point.
We used a high gain, 19dBi, panel antenna attached to a Linksys Class 1 Bluetooth adapter - picture.
Using this equipment, last week we transferred a few pictures from 3300 feet (1 km). This week we bluesnarfed from about 5300 feet (1.08 miles).
The whole point of these experiments is to show that Bluetooth can go a lot further than previously suspected. Witness the 55.1 mile link using 30 mw wifi.
Lack of details is because it's in Wired News. Look for a writeup on www.wifi-toys.com later today.
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Carbolic
wifi-toys.com
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Re:i'm suspect at the lack of details.I was there - holding the Nokia out in front of me. TechTV was there filming the test from both sides. It will appear on The Screen Savers at some point.
We used a high gain, 19dBi, panel antenna attached to a Linksys Class 1 Bluetooth adapter - picture.
Using this equipment, last week we transferred a few pictures from 3300 feet (1 km). This week we bluesnarfed from about 5300 feet (1.08 miles).
The whole point of these experiments is to show that Bluetooth can go a lot further than previously suspected. Witness the 55.1 mile link using 30 mw wifi.
Lack of details is because it's in Wired News. Look for a writeup on www.wifi-toys.com later today.
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Carbolic
wifi-toys.com
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Re:i'm suspect at the lack of details.I was there - holding the Nokia out in front of me. TechTV was there filming the test from both sides. It will appear on The Screen Savers at some point.
We used a high gain, 19dBi, panel antenna attached to a Linksys Class 1 Bluetooth adapter - picture.
Using this equipment, last week we transferred a few pictures from 3300 feet (1 km). This week we bluesnarfed from about 5300 feet (1.08 miles).
The whole point of these experiments is to show that Bluetooth can go a lot further than previously suspected. Witness the 55.1 mile link using 30 mw wifi.
Lack of details is because it's in Wired News. Look for a writeup on www.wifi-toys.com later today.
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Carbolic
wifi-toys.com
bluedriving.com
