Re:No mention of public wardriving websites?
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I didn't include any of the upload/plotting sites like yours, nodedb, wigle.net, and others. Partly because I am a purist that prefers to gather and plot the data myself. Partly because it's a DIY book and the chapter was devoted to showing people how to make their own maps. And partly because of the unknown privacy implications of gathering and sharing this type of data in raw form. In any case, your site is a useful tool among others and should not be overlooked when that topic is being discussed.
btw, I support what you are doing. The SOCALWUG access point was one of your early data points: June 2002!
Many of the projects in the book have been done before. This isn't an engineering reference. But like you said, it shows you how it is done, and give links and stuff.
Hey check it out: That was me in one of those planes. This feat was accomplished before Wi-Fi Toys was on sale, but we used the same procedures in the plane-to-plane link as in the car-to-car links.
Here's a collage (from a powerpoint show) of some of those pics.
Good ideas! Related to the simple controller concept, check out what they are doing over at the Center for Embedded Networked Censors, they are using Wi-Fi for a lot of sensing systems - a bit like the "smart dust" concept that hits the news every so often.
Actually, it's an off-the-shelf Radio Shack $10 soldering iron. The point was to use easy-to-find gear to make the hack work. I used the same iron in these projects.
As for your other points: Step 7 == Tin The Shield, LMR-100 is the most common pigtail for "low-loss" at 2.4GHz, FCC regs tend to encourage experimentation (debateable), and the frikken thing worked over 1 Mile - depsite the under-engineered design flaws.
Yesterday on The Screen Savers they pointed out a for-pay satellite viewer that appears to do the same thing as this NASA viewer. Keyhole LT is a consumer-licensed viewer for about $40 and is a way smaller download with a free trial mode. The resolution is not spy-on-your-neighbors great. But you can see who has pools on your block and how many cars are parked in the driveway along with topography data and flyover modes.
For a high-res view but user-interface nightmare, GlobeXplorer has free and subscription imagery online that incorporates aerial photography for less than 1 meter resolution (like way zoomed in.)
Of course, what roxorz is that the NASA prog is free. At least for now!
Yes! There's several, of what I call, AP Games using wireless access points. NZWireless in New Zealand performed a treasure hunt in their home town. My pals and I designed a capture the flag game where you drive around the city trying to find an access point. And the traditional foxhunt (or RunningMan) where you seek to find a single AP moving around in an erratic fashion. I prefer using a car since I live in L.A. and don't walk.
In Chapter 11 of my book, Wi-Fi Toys, I describe some of these DF-based AP games in great detail. I love it how these guys are breaking the rules with traditional wireless.
Instead of using access points for boring Internet access, these guys are going extreme and creating a giant video game.
He's also talking about *convenience*. By delivering several high-quality HD formatted movies and other content on a hard drive or other flexible media (remember he isn't locked into hard disks yet) he is making it easy to obtain a suite of movies or customizable content (Season 1 of Seinfeld, please.)
If this delivery method is combined with a PVR like TiVo, you can get a bunch of movies that look great on a 65 inch wide screen HDTV. And you only have to order once.
Pirates will always be in the picture, but if it's very convenient, the masses will choose high quality simplicity for their big screen fetish.
Consider how much eBay has to deal with. They are the single biggest online entity in sheer dollar volume with millions of customers. Yet they still try to keep the community the focus. I think that's prevalent even with all of the creeping changes. eBay doesn't want to alienate its own clientelle. That's a noble effort, even with all of the glitches that surround giganticness.
I suspect eBay will treat Cragslist clientelle in the same fashion - community first. Yet, they will be able to bring more recognition (and cities) with their marketing might and R&D dollars.
btw: For a Really Great Look into eBay's origins and culture, check out the book "eBoys" about the early days of eBay and Benchmark Capital, its VC backers.
Re:i'm suspect at the lack of details.
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I was there - holding the Nokia out in front of me. TechTV was there filming the test from both sides. It will appear on The Screen Savers at some point.
We used a high gain, 19dBi, panel antenna attached to a Linksys Class 1 Bluetooth adapter - picture.
Using this equipment, last week we transferred a few pictures from 3300 feet (1 km). This week we bluesnarfed from about 5300 feet (1.08 miles).
The whole point of these experiments is to show that Bluetooth can go a lot further than previously suspected. Witness the 55.1 mile link using 30 mw wifi.
Lack of details is because it's in Wired News. Look for a writeup on www.wifi-toys.com later today.
Humphrey is totally in the field with his Tom's Hardware write-ups. Remember when he was the pilot Warflying over LA?
Later that day, I talked to the fed who got nabbed in that spot the fed video. He was running Kismet when he got called up. Others around him whispered "He can't be a fed, he's running Kismet". Don't be fooled. I think some of these fed types dig technology as much as any hacker.
The Bluesniper rifle by the guys at Flexilis is so cool - I built the bluetooth gear for them from the kits on my bluedriving.com site. And I had a chance to look through the scope at DefCon, but didn't get to bluesnipe anyone with it yet.
The Shmoo Group has another rad wireless sniper rifle they showed at DefCon. (I think the Flexilis guys got the bag on Shmoo this time for walking in the first day carrying the rifle.) Check out Shmoo's build-it instructions: LINK
These two rifles are very similar - it's what's hooked up to them that matters. The Shmoo group used a Wi-Fi system with a 27 dB amplifier, while the Flexilis group used a Class 1 Bluetooth USB adapter modded with a cable and bluedriving software. (Note: I put together the wireless hardware used on the the Bluesniper rifle.)
Don't forget that they tried it with the 600mw amp, got a signal and won, then DISCONNECTED THE AMP to use the plain old 30mw Lucent Orinoco card!
Lucent Orinoco - the original wardriver's card.
And another tidbit: The Lucent card was installed in the Lucent PCMCIA to USB converter connected to the laptop. And I think the laptop was running a software access point.
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btw, I support what you are doing. The SOCALWUG access point was one of your early data points: June 2002!
Many of the projects in the book have been done before. This isn't an engineering reference. But like you said, it shows you how it is done, and give links and stuff.
Here's a collage (from a powerpoint show) of some of those pics.
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Check out this NPR radio segment where Peter Rojas of Engadget talks about hardware hacking the iPod and other stuff.
As for your other points: Step 7 == Tin The Shield, LMR-100 is the most common pigtail for "low-loss" at 2.4GHz, FCC regs tend to encourage experimentation (debateable), and the frikken thing worked over 1 Mile - depsite the under-engineered design flaws.
Wow! I watched this get posted live in an interview with CmdrTaco. Mod--
For a high-res view but user-interface nightmare, GlobeXplorer has free and subscription imagery online that incorporates aerial photography for less than 1 meter resolution (like way zoomed in.)
Of course, what roxorz is that the NASA prog is free. At least for now!
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I prefer an Electric Skateboard
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In Chapter 11 of my book, Wi-Fi Toys, I describe some of these DF-based AP games in great detail. I love it how these guys are breaking the rules with traditional wireless.
Instead of using access points for boring Internet access, these guys are going extreme and creating a giant video game.
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carbolic
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If this delivery method is combined with a PVR like TiVo, you can get a bunch of movies that look great on a 65 inch wide screen HDTV. And you only have to order once.
Pirates will always be in the picture, but if it's very convenient, the masses will choose high quality simplicity for their big screen fetish.
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It's funny because it says "Anonymous Coward"!
I suspect eBay will treat Cragslist clientelle in the same fashion - community first. Yet, they will be able to bring more recognition (and cities) with their marketing might and R&D dollars.
btw: For a Really Great Look into eBay's origins and culture, check out the book "eBoys" about the early days of eBay and Benchmark Capital, its VC backers.
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We used a high gain, 19dBi, panel antenna attached to a Linksys Class 1 Bluetooth adapter - picture.
Using this equipment, last week we transferred a few pictures from 3300 feet (1 km). This week we bluesnarfed from about 5300 feet (1.08 miles).
The whole point of these experiments is to show that Bluetooth can go a lot further than previously suspected. Witness the 55.1 mile link using 30 mw wifi.
Lack of details is because it's in Wired News. Look for a writeup on www.wifi-toys.com later today.
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bluedriving.com
Later that day, I talked to the fed who got nabbed in that spot the fed video. He was running Kismet when he got called up. Others around him whispered "He can't be a fed, he's running Kismet". Don't be fooled. I think some of these fed types dig technology as much as any hacker.
The Bluesniper rifle by the guys at Flexilis is so cool - I built the bluetooth gear for them from the kits on my bluedriving.com site. And I had a chance to look through the scope at DefCon, but didn't get to bluesnipe anyone with it yet.
The Shmoo Group has another rad wireless sniper rifle they showed at DefCon. (I think the Flexilis guys got the bag on Shmoo this time for walking in the first day carrying the rifle.) Check out Shmoo's build-it instructions: LINK
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Also, antennas do not amplify signals, the can only increase gain by shaping the beam pattern. The effect can be the same, though.
Lucent Orinoco - the original wardriver's card.
And another tidbit: The Lucent card was installed in the Lucent PCMCIA to USB converter connected to the laptop. And I think the laptop was running a software access point.
These guys did all the right things.