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gottabeme on "honesty" (not) & hypocrisy (LOL)
It's not Linux being used for that @ NASDAQ, fact!
"Yeah, it's only what Google, Yahoo, Facebook, NYSE, NASDAQ, etc. use on their servers - by gottabeme (590848) on Wednesday July 06, @08:16AM (#36670630)
FROM -> http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2282088&cid=36670630
Instead - Try it's Windows Server 2003 + SQLServer acting as "the OFFICIAL TRADE DATA DISSEMINATION SYSTEM" @ NASDAQ instead!
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NASDAQ Migrates to SQL Server 2005:
http://www.windowsfs.com/enews/nasdaq-migrates-to-sql-server-2005
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and here:
NASDAQ Uses SQL Server 2005 Ã" Reducing Costs through Better Data Management:
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(In fact, It's been running 24x7 in fail-over clusters for coming up on a DECADE NOW in fact... check the Microsoft "GET THE FACTS" pages @ MS!)
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"Until you're willing to argue logically and honestly, we can't make any progress in the discussion." - by gottabeme (590848) on Wednesday July 06, @08:27AM (#36670680)
Yea... tell me about it, & call me a hypocrite again!
(E.G./I.E.-> I called you a liar, because you ARE A LIAR on NASDAQ running Linux (epsecially when it fell "agreus style" FLAT ON ITS FACE 2nd day on the job @ LSE!)).
I call a spade, a spade... simple!
You can "redeem yourself" (lol, not - your blunder on NASDAQ alone blew you away)!
Go on... Prove the data from SECUNIA.COM on Linux unpatched security vulnerabilities is indeed, inaccurate - show us the CVE's you said that show they are patched!
I suspect that's another LIE from you, and you talked of "honesty"?? Please...
Again - "Put up, or SHUT UP"...
( & not your inaccurate LIES about things... I want to see CVE data that shows the data from SECUNIA is inaccurate!)
APK
P.S.=> "Put up or SHUT UP" & no more NASDAQ lies... or what I suspect is yet another lie out of you here next:
PROVE IT, because YOU SAID THIS:
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"Secunia's statistics are incorrect and out-of-date. I checked some of the CVEs for Linux, and Secunia lists them as unpatched, while Googling the CVEs shows that they were patched a long time ago." - by gottabeme (590848) on Sunday July 03, @09:44PM (#36649602)
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Prove it... Show us that data then - why do you keep "RUNNING" from doing that? Because it's another LIE from you, like the one on NASDAQ??
In fact - I can show EASY workarounds for the 2 remote errs in Windows (they don't affect home PC's even if they're setup right for security, that is, or even corporate workstations) the same for the 3 local ones...
(Funny part is 1 is caused by Apple softwares!)
* SO - Can you show the same for the 17++ errors in Linux, WHICH DO HAVE A REMOTE SECURITY VULNERABILITY UNPATCHED ALSO! Because I can show this, from a source YOU TRIED TO USE WITH STALE OLD DATA from 2004, & here is more current info. on that note:
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http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/06/10/domains_lamped/
PERTINENT QUOTE:
"Phishers compromise LAMP-based websites for days at a time and hit the same victims over and over again, according to an Anti-Phishing Working Group survey. Sites built on Linux, Apache, MySQL and PHP are the favoured targets of phishing attackers"
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... apk
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"Run, Forrest - RUN!!!" Part #3... lol! apk
It's not Linux being used for that @ NASDAQ, fact!
"Yeah, it's only what Google, Yahoo, Facebook, NYSE, NASDAQ, etc. use on their servers - by gottabeme (590848) on Wednesday July 06, @08:16AM (#36670630)
FROM -> http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2282088&cid=36670630
Instead - Try it's Windows Server 2003 + SQLServer acting as "the OFFICIAL TRADE DATA DISSEMINATION SYSTEM" @ NASDAQ instead!
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NASDAQ Migrates to SQL Server 2005:
http://www.windowsfs.com/enews/nasdaq-migrates-to-sql-server-2005
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and here:
NASDAQ Uses SQL Server 2005 Ã" Reducing Costs through Better Data Management:
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(In fact, It's been running 24x7 in fail-over clusters for coming up on a DECADE NOW in fact... check the Microsoft "GET THE FACTS" pages @ MS!)
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"Until you're willing to argue logically and honestly, we can't make any progress in the discussion." - by gottabeme (590848) on Wednesday July 06, @08:27AM (#36670680)
Yea... tell me about it, & call me a hypocrite again (I called you a liar, because you ARE A LIAR on NASDAQ running Linux (epsecially when it fell "agreus style" FLAT ON ITS FACE 2nd day on the job @ LSE!)). I call a spade, a spade... simple!
You can "redeem yourself"... prove the data from SECUNIA.COM on Linux unpatched security vulnerabilities is indeed, inaccurate - show us the CVE's you said that show they are patched!
Again - "Put up, or SHUT UP"...
( & not your inaccurate LIES about things... I want to see CVE data that shows the data from SECUNIA is inaccurate!)
APK
P.S.=> "Put up or SHUT UP" & no more NASDAQ lies... or what I suspect is yet another lie out of you here next:
PROVE IT, because YOU SAID THIS:
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"Secunia's statistics are incorrect and out-of-date. I checked some of the CVEs for Linux, and Secunia lists them as unpatched, while Googling the CVEs shows that they were patched a long time ago." - by gottabeme (590848) on Sunday July 03, @09:44PM (#36649602)
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Prove it... Show us that data then - why do you keep "RUNNING" from doing that? Because it's another LIE from you, like the one on NASDAQ??
In fact - I can show EASY workarounds for the 2 remote errs in Windows (they don't affect home PC's even if they're setup right for security, that is, or even corporate workstations) the same for the 3 local ones...
(Funny part is 1 is caused by Apple softwares!)
* SO - Can you show the same for the 17++ errors in Linux, WHICH DO HAVE A REMOTE SECURITY VULNERABILITY UNPATCHED ALSO! Because I can show this, from a source YOU TRIED TO USE WITH STALE OLD DATA from 2004, & here is more current info. on that note:
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http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/06/10/domains_lamped/
PERTINENT QUOTE:
"Phishers compromise LAMP-based websites for days at a time and hit the same victims over and over again, according to an Anti-Phishing Working Group survey. Sites built on Linux, Apache, MySQL and PHP are the favoured targets of phishing attackers"
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... apk
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"Put up, or SHUT UP" & no more NASDAQ lies
Yes, you DO have to prove this:
"I already explained how Secunia is not a valid source for your arguments. I don't need to refute its data because it itself is invalid." - by gottabeme (590848) on Wednesday July 06, @08:16AM (#36670630)
Ok, "sure" (sarcasm) - PROVE IT, because YOU SAID THIS BEFORE THAT:
"Secunia's statistics are incorrect and out-of-date. I checked some of the CVEs for Linux, and Secunia lists them as unpatched, while Googling the CVEs shows that they were patched a long time ago." - by gottabeme (590848) on Sunday July 03, @09:44PM (#36649602)
Prove it... show us that data then - why do you keep "RUNNING" from doing that? Because it's another LIE from you, like the one on NASDAQ?? (See below).
In fact - I can show EASY workarounds for the 2 remote errs in Windows (they don't affect home PC's even if they're setup right for security, that is, or even corporate workstations) the same for the 3 local ones...
(Funny part is 1 is caused by Apple softwares!)
* SO - Can you show the same for the 17++ errors in Linux, WHICH DO HAVE A REMOTE SECURITY VULNERABILITY UNPATCHED ALSO!
APK
P.S.=> Or, are you going to be as "accurate" as you were ABOUT NASDAQ USING LINUX?
See here on that account folks & get read to laugh:
"Yeah, it's only what Google, Yahoo, Facebook, NYSE, NASDAQ, etc. use on their servers - by gottabeme (590848) on Wednesday July 06, @08:16AM (#36670630)
Instead - Try it's Windows Server 2003 + SQLServer acting as "the OFFICIAL TRADE DATA DISSEMINATION SYSTEM" @ NASDAQ instead!
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NASDAQ Migrates to SQL Server 2005:
http://www.windowsfs.com/enews/nasdaq-migrates-to-sql-server-2005
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and here:
NASDAQ Uses SQL Server 2005 â" Reducing Costs through Better Data Management:
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(In fact, It's been running 24x7 in fail-over clusters for coming up on a DECADE NOW in fact... check the Microsoft "GET THE FACTS" pages @ MS!)
"Put up, or SHUT UP"... & not your inaccurate LIES about things... I want to see CVE data that shows the data from SECUNIA is inaccurate!
... apk
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How'd Linux do @ LSE & NASDAQ?
IT FAILED 2nd DAY ON THE JOB:
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NOW on NASDAQ?
WRONG - Where you said NASDAQ uses Linux? Oh, really?? LMAO (wrong):
"Yeah, it's only what Google, Yahoo, Facebook, NYSE, NASDAQ, etc. use on their servers
- by gottabeme (590848) on Wednesday July 06, @08:16AM (#36670630)
Instead - Try it's Windows Server 2003 + SQLServer acting as "the OFFICIAL TRADE DATA DISSEMINATION SYSTEM" @ NASDAQ instead!
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NASDAQ Migrates to SQL Server 2005:
http://www.windowsfs.com/enews/nasdaq-migrates-to-sql-server-2005
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and here:
NASDAQ Uses SQL Server 2005 â" Reducing Costs through Better Data Management:
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(In fact, It's been running 24x7 in fail-over clusters for coming up on a DECADE NOW in fact... check the Microsoft "GET THE FACTS" pages @ MS!)
* Man... LMAO!
APK
P.S.=> Small wonder it's also doing "SO WELL" here too on this note as a server also:
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http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/06/10/domains_lamped/
PERTINENT QUOTE:
"Phishers compromise LAMP-based websites for days at a time and hit the same victims over and over again, according to an Anti-Phishing Working Group survey. Sites built on Linux, Apache, MySQL and PHP are the favoured targets of phishing attackers"
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... apk
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Proofs of how NASDAQ uses MS OS & servers... a
"MS also has a case study showing that SQL Server is used by NASDAQ not in the real-time transactions but in reporting after the trade" - by UnknowingFool (672806) on Monday October 25, @10:28AM (#34011858)
Correction: You failed to see that I wrote that MS' OS is used as "the official trade data dissemination system", @ NASDAQ, because that is what I said it acted as there, and in a stable 24x7 uptime fashion, and that is all... and yes, I have proofs below.
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http://www.microsoft.com/sqlserver/2005/en/us/cs-financial-roi.aspx?pf=true
"NASDAQ Deploys SQL Server 2005 to Support Real-Time Trade Booking and Queries"
NASDAQ, which became the worlds first electronic stock market in 1971, and remains the largest U.S. electronic stock market, is constantly looking for more-efficient ways to serve its members. As the organization prepared to retire its aging large mainframe computers, it deployed Microsoft® SQL Server 2005 on two 4-node clusters to support its Market Data Dissemination System (MDDS). Every trade that is processed in the NASDAQ marketplace goes through the MDDS system, with SQL Server 2005 handling some 5,000 transactions per second at market open. SQL Server 2005 simultaneously handles about 100,000 queries a day, using SQL Server 2005 Snapshot Isolation to support real-time queries against the data without slowing the database. NASDAQ is enjoying a lower total cost of ownership compared to the large mainframe computer system that the SQL Server 2005 deployment has replaced."
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NASDAQ Migrates to SQL Server 2005:
http://windowsfs.com/enews/nasdaq-migrates-to-sql-server-2005
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NASDAQ Uses SQL Server 2005 - Reducing Costs through Better Data Management:
"NASDAQ, the worlds first electronic stock market replaced its aging mainframe computers with Microsoft® SQL Server 2005 on two 4-node clusters to support its Market Data Dissemination System (MDDS). Every trade processed in the NASDAQ marketplace goes through the system with Microsoft® SQL Server 2005 handling some 5,000 transactions per second at market open. The system also responds to about 10,000 queries a day and is able to handle real-time queries against data without slowing the database down."
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So, there you are: Evidence(s) of MS doing well for NASDAQ acting as the "official trade data dissemination system" there, and doing so stably also... &, if you saw that video @ youtube I put up in my 1st post you replied to? You'd see that is how it was used at LSE also (the main man intereviewed stated it thus no less).
I had posted this data years ago here http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1290967&cid=28571315 and even begore that, but the Linux "FUD" still goes on (and surprise, surprise: I am also a Linux fan as well (kernel 2.6.35/KUbuntu 10.10 64-bit user here daily, in a dual boot configuration alongside Windows 7 64-bit). I just don't like when the "Penguins" around here attempt to spread disinformation/misinformation.
P.S.=> So, again, & in agreement with the man I replied to: Personally, & especially based on the evidences here (the thread topic itself, & the NASDAQ data I just provided here)?
Well - I think a great deal of stability & uptime has to do a LOT with the skills of those architecting a system, first, AND later those that have the task of maintaining it also (this means the network engineering staff AND coding t
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Quit trying to put words in my mouth
"That's all great, but the MDDS is just a reporting system. It does not handle trades." -
All the TRADE data goes thru it, @ this rate, @ the NASDAQ reported (by NASDAQTRADER) 99.999% uptime & yes, I know that it is a part of NASDAQ's many systems but no single one runs the show there either
(I never said it was anything but the OFFICIAL TRADE DATA DISSEMENATION SYSTEM, so again - QUIT TRYING TO PUT WORDS IN MY MOUTH I NEVER STATED, for the 10th time now):
http://www.windowsfs.com/enews/nasdaq-migrates-to-sql-server-2005
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NASDAQ Migrates to SQL Server 2005
Sunday, January 1, 2006, 12:00"NASDAQ has replaced aging Tandem mainframes used to disseminate market data with Microsoft SQL Server 2005 running on the Microsoft Windows Server 2003 Enterprise Edition operating system. The system runs on two 4-node Dell PowerEdge 6850 clusters.
The system supports NASDAQs Market Data Dissemination System (MDDS). Every trade that is processed in the NASDAQ marketplace goes through MDDS, and MDDS keeps the official daily record of all trades. To support MDDS, SQL Server 2005 handles approximately 5,000 transactions per second at market open.
The system also simultaneously handles about 100,000 queries a day using the SQL Server 2005 Snapshot Isolation feature a feature that allows real-time queries against the data without slowing the database. NASDAQ identified Snapshot Isolation as a key benefit early on.
We saw an early demonstration of Snapshot Isolation and knew this was the solution we needed to run queries against real-time data without slowing the delivery of trading data. It has worked perfectly for us, said Ken Richmond, vice president for software engineering, market information systems at NASDAQ.
Snapshot Isolation works by allowing multiple users to view data concurrently without locking other users out of it. It uses a temporary database that holds updated data for each transaction.
Meanwhile, Richmond also noted that the system is cutting costs in comparison to the Tandem Enscribe system that it replaced.
Ten years ago NASDAQ earned about one penny per trade. Today we make about one-tenth of a penny per trade. SQL Server 2005 is helping us meet our goals of offering our customers more while charging them less, he said. Richmond called reducing costs one of the primary drivers for the project.
The SQL Server 2005 development tools have also cut developers time in creating and customizing new solutions, he said, in part through simplified testing and debugging. A recent project that would have been exceedingly difficult with the old system took just three or four days.
Mission critical implementations like NASDAQs MDDS are giving Microsoft traction in the database race against IBM and Oracle. In 2004 (before SQL Server 2005s official launch), Microsoft led database vendors in terms of growth of market share, with 18 percent growth over 2003, according to Gartner"
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APK
P.S.=> Why is this guy trying to say I said things other than what I said? This was my init. statement & he even admits I never said anything but rather "implied it" (could it be his reading comprehension? I can't think of anything else) -> Windows Server 2003 + SQLServer 2005 (in failover clusters) since late 2005, acting as the official dissemination system of official trade data & it is PART of the 99.999% uptime WHOLE there, and it deals with ALL trade data no less... apk
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NASDAQ another Stock Exchange does well
"Stock Exchange, like many transaction based business, needs real time systems and Windows 2003 plus SQL" - by ihavenospine (541249) on Friday July 03, @09:52AM (#28571113)
Correct, & agreed, 110% (with evidence thereof): NASDAQ is an example of this, & yes - NASDAQ has maintained the "fabled '5-9's" of 99.999% uptime on Windows Server 2003 + SQLServer 2005 (in failover clusters) since late 2005, acting as the official dissemination system of official trade data:
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FIRST - the actual PROOF of that "stability/uptime":
http://www.nasdaqtrader.com/Trader.aspx?id=MarketShare
"NASDAQ is renowned for its high performance technology and has proven reliability with 99.999+% uptime. Whats more, firms count on NASDAQ for unsurpassed speed and tested capacity to execute trades quickly and efficiently."
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NASDAQ Migrates to SQL Server 2005:
http://windowsfs.com/enews/nasdaq-migrates-to-sql-server-2005
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NASDAQ Uses SQL Server 2005 - Reducing Costs through Better Data Management:
"NASDAQ, the worlds first electronic stock market replaced its aging mainframe computers with Microsoft® SQL Server 2005 on two 4-node clusters to support its Market Data Dissemination System (MDDS). Every trade processed in the NASDAQ marketplace goes through the system with Microsoft® SQL Server 2005 handling some 5,000 transactions per second at market open. The system also responds to about 10,000 queries a day and is able to handle real-time queries against data without slowing the database down."
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Case Studies - Financial Services:
http://www.microsoft.com/sqlserver/2005/en/us/cs-financial-roi.aspx?pf=true [microsoft.com] [microsoft.com] [microsoft.com] [microsoft.com]
"NASDAQ Deploys SQL Server 2005 to Support Real-Time Trade Booking and Queries
NASDAQ, which became the worlds first electronic stock market in 1971, and remains the largest U.S. electronic stock market, is constantly looking for more-efficient ways to serve its members. As the organization prepared to retire its aging large mainframe computers, it deployed Microsoft® SQL Server 2005 on two 4-node clusters to support its Market Data Dissemination System (MDDS). Every trade that is processed in the NASDAQ marketplace goes through the MDDS system, with SQL Server 2005 handling some 5,000 transactions per second at market open. SQL Server 2005 simultaneously handles about 100,000 queries a day, using SQL Server 2005 Snapshot Isolation to support real-time queries against the data without slowing the database. NASDAQ is enjoying a lower total cost of ownership compared to the large mainframe computer system that the SQL Server 2005 deployment has replaced."
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AND, "There ya are"... Evidence of the possible stability, security, & speed on Windows, AND, in a high tpm environs (and, in a Stock Exchange, specifically)...
(Keeping stable & running F A S T, + "24x7", & for 1/2 a decade++ going strong, acting as the official trade data dissemination system for NASDAQ!)
APK
P.S.=> Personally, & especially based on the evidences here (the thread topic itself, & the NASDAQ data I just provided here)?
Well - I think a great deal of stability & uptime has to do a LOT with the skills of those architecting a system, first, AND later those that have the task of maintaining it also (this means the network engin
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NASDAQ going on 5++ yrs. stable on Windows
"Looking at other exchanges, there are trading platforms that have been able to last 10+ years while scaling quite well." - by Jerky McNaughty (1391) on Friday July 03, @09:40AM (#28571007)
NASDAQ is an example of this, & yes: NASDAQ has maintained the "fabled '5-9's" of 99.999% uptime on Windows Server 2003 + SQLServer 2005 (in failover clusters) since late 2005, acting as the official dissemination system of official trade data:
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NASDAQ Migrates to SQL Server 2005:
http://windowsfs.com/enews/nasdaq-migrates-to-sql-server-2005
&/or
NASDAQ Uses SQL Server 2005 - Reducing Costs through Better Data Management:
"NASDAQ, the worlds first electronic stock market replaced its aging mainframe computers with Microsoft® SQL Server 2005 on two 4-node clusters to support its Market Data Dissemination System (MDDS). Every trade processed in the NASDAQ marketplace goes through the system with Microsoft® SQL Server 2005 handling some 5,000 transactions per second at market open. The system also responds to about 10,000 queries a day and is able to handle real-time queries against data without slowing the database down."
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Case Studies - Financial Services:
http://www.microsoft.com/sqlserver/2005/en/us/cs-financial-roi.aspx?pf=true [microsoft.com] [microsoft.com] [microsoft.com] [microsoft.com]
"NASDAQ Deploys SQL Server 2005 to Support Real-Time Trade Booking and Queries
NASDAQ, which became the worlds first electronic stock market in 1971, and remains the largest U.S. electronic stock market, is constantly looking for more-efficient ways to serve its members. As the organization prepared to retire its aging large mainframe computers, it deployed Microsoft® SQL Server 2005 on two 4-node clusters to support its Market Data Dissemination System (MDDS). Every trade that is processed in the NASDAQ marketplace goes through the MDDS system, with SQL Server 2005 handling some 5,000 transactions per second at market open. SQL Server 2005 simultaneously handles about 100,000 queries a day, using SQL Server 2005 Snapshot Isolation to support real-time queries against the data without slowing the database. NASDAQ is enjoying a lower total cost of ownership compared to the large mainframe computer system that the SQL Server 2005 deployment has replaced."
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NOW - the actual PROOF of that "stability/uptime":
http://www.nasdaqtrader.com/Trader.aspx?id=MarketShare
"NASDAQ is renowned for its high performance technology and has proven reliability with 99.999+% uptime. Whats more, firms count on NASDAQ for unsurpassed speed and tested capacity to execute trades quickly and efficiently."
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AND, "There ya are"... Evidence of the possible stability, security, & speed on Windows, in a high tpm environs, keeping stable & running F A S T 24x7 for 1/2 a decade++ going strong, acting as the official trade data dissemination system for NASDAQ!
APK
P.S.=? Personally, & especially based on the evidences here (the thread topic itself, & the NASDAQ data I just provided here)? Well - I think a great deal of stability & uptime has to do a LOT with the skills of those architecting a system, first, AND later those that have the task of maintaining it also (this means the network engineering staff AND coding teams around said projects), as well as their personal work-ethics - not so much on the Opera
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Got proof of MacOS X running a stock exchange?
"OSX *can* pull five nines. it's only on windows where five nines of reliability are fabled." - by RyuuzakiTetsuya (195424) on Tuesday June 23, @03:00PM (#28443103)
Fabled? Not really! AND??
This is no mere "FABLE", but instead, reality (provable, concrete, & verifiable reality):
NASDAQ proves it... of course, this is also contingent upon the team adminning it as well (keep this in mind, with ANY OS)
Here is an example of NASDAQ's uptime, AND stability, in a high tpm environs, industrially (using Windows no less):
NASDAQ keeps on running 24x7, into the fabled "5-9's" of 99.999% uptime using Windows Server 2003 + SQLServer 2005 (in failover clusters) since late 2005, acting as the official dissemination system of official trade data:
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NASDAQ Migrates to SQL Server 2005:
http://windowsfs.com/enews/nasdaq-migrates-to-sql-server-2005
&/or
NASDAQ Uses SQL Server 2005 - Reducing Costs through Better Data Management:
"NASDAQ, the worlds first electronic stock market replaced its aging mainframe computers with Microsoft® SQL Server 2005 on two 4-node clusters to support its Market Data Dissemination System (MDDS). Every trade processed in the NASDAQ marketplace goes through the system with Microsoft® SQL Server 2005 handling some 5,000 transactions per second at market open. The system also responds to about 10,000 queries a day and is able to handle real-time queries against data without slowing the database down."
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Case Studies - Financial Services:
http://www.microsoft.com/sqlserver/2005/en/us/cs-financial-roi.aspx?pf=true
"NASDAQ Deploys SQL Server 2005 to Support Real-Time Trade Booking and Queries
NASDAQ, which became the worlds first electronic stock market in 1971, and remains the largest U.S. electronic stock market, is constantly looking for more-efficient ways to serve its members. As the organization prepared to retire its aging large mainframe computers, it deployed Microsoft® SQL Server 2005 on two 4-node clusters to support its Market Data Dissemination System (MDDS). Every trade that is processed in the NASDAQ marketplace goes through the MDDS system, with SQL Server 2005 handling some 5,000 transactions per second at market open. SQL Server 2005 simultaneously handles about 100,000 queries a day, using SQL Server 2005 Snapshot Isolation to support real-time queries against the data without slowing the database. NASDAQ is enjoying a lower total cost of ownership compared to the large mainframe computer system that the SQL Server 2005 deployment has replaced."
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SO, that all "said & aside" - You want PROOF of that "stability/uptime", you say?
OK, see here -> http://www.nasdaqtrader.com/Trader.aspx?id=MarketShare
"NASDAQ is renowned for its high performance technology and has proven reliability with 99.999+% uptime. Whats more, firms count on NASDAQ for unsurpassed speed and tested capacity to execute trades quickly and efficiently."
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What I'd like to see is actual proof of MacOS X pulling that "fabled '5-9's", albeit in a HIGH TPM environs that has run for 1/2 decade++ or more, & just as stably + secure as NASDAQ has seen...
You have me wrong I think (& my replies MAY have given you that impression):
I don't "hate *NIX"!
In fact, it, along with VAX's VMS (on a VAX-1180 in the early to mid 1980's) is where I started i
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Re:Upgraded
"No Windows system is stable that long at a time" - by T Murphy (1054674) on Monday May 11, @11:45AM (#27907843)
NASDAQ says, & proves, quite otherwise!
Here is an example of NASDAQ's uptime, AND stability, in a high tpm environs, industrially (using Windows no less):
NASDAQ keeps on running 24x7, into the fabled "5-9's" of 99.999% uptime using Windows Server 2003 + SQLServer 2005 (in failover clusters) since late 2005, acting as the official dissemination system of official trade data:
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NASDAQ Migrates to SQL Server 2005:
http://windowsfs.com/enews/nasdaq-migrates-to-sql-server-2005 [windowsfs.com] [windowsfs.com]
&/or
NASDAQ Uses SQL Server 2005 - Reducing Costs through Better Data Management:
http://blog.sqlauthority.com/2007/09/17/sqlauthority-news-nasdaq-uses-sql-server-2005-reducing-costs-through-better-data-management/ [sqlauthority.com] [sqlauthority.com]
"NASDAQ, the worlds first electronic stock market replaced its aging mainframe computers with Microsoft® SQL Server 2005 on two 4-node clusters to support its Market Data Dissemination System (MDDS). Every trade processed in the NASDAQ marketplace goes through the system with Microsoft® SQL Server 2005 handling some 5,000 transactions per second at market open. The system also responds to about 10,000 queries a day and is able to handle real-time queries against data without slowing the database down."
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Case Studies - Financial Services:
http://www.microsoft.com/sqlserver/2005/en/us/cs-financial-roi.aspx?pf=true [microsoft.com] [microsoft.com] [microsoft.com]
"NASDAQ Deploys SQL Server 2005 to Support Real-Time Trade Booking and Queries
NASDAQ, which became the worlds first electronic stock market in 1971, and remains the largest U.S. electronic stock market, is constantly looking for more-efficient ways to serve its members. As the organization prepared to retire its aging large mainframe computers, it deployed Microsoft® SQL Server 2005 on two 4-node clusters to support its Market Data Dissemination System (MDDS). Every trade that is processed in the NASDAQ marketplace goes through the MDDS system, with SQL Server 2005 handling some 5,000 transactions per second at market open. SQL Server 2005 simultaneously handles about 100,000 queries a day, using SQL Server 2005 Snapshot Isolation to support real-time queries against the data without slowing the database. NASDAQ is enjoying a lower total cost of ownership compared to the large mainframe computer system that the SQL Server 2005 deployment has replaced."
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SO, that all "said & aside" - You want PROOF of that "stability/uptime", you say?
OK, see here -> http://www.nasdaqtrader.com/Trader.aspx?id=MarketShare [nasdaqtrader.com] [nasdaqtrader.com] [nasdaqtrader.com]
"NASDAQ is renowned for its high performance technology and has proven reliability with 99.999+% uptime. Whats more, firms count on NASDAQ for unsurpassed speed and tested capacity to execute trades quickly and efficiently."
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So much for your humor... because, in the end? That's ALL it is... poor humor.
APK
P.S.=> I'm going to take a risk, & assume you're another "Pro-*NIX" sheep - &, thus, that you're ignorant of HOW to keep a Windows system running in a stable high performing fashion... &, yes, that happens. Stability, security, AND performance often are determined by the person(s) running the Windows (or even *NIX variant systems) & taking care of/administering them... apk
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Results users obtained say otherwise... apk
"Also, your guide? It's not hardening." - by ion.simon.c (1183967) on Friday May 01, @08:57PM (#27794675)
I'll have to disagree with you: It absolutely is (considering you are, for example, "fortifying" a file, like a custom HOSTS file, the registry, & others vs. known bad sites etc.) - &, especially when it gets others w/ results like this:
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"Its 2009 - still trouble free! I was told last week by a co worker who does active directory administration, and he said I was doing overkill. I told him yes, but I just eliminated the half life in windows that you usually get. He said good point. So from 2008 till 2009. No speed decreases, its been to a lan party, moved around in a move, and it still NEVER has had the OS reinstalled besides the fact I imaged the drive over in 2008. Great stuff! My client STILL Hasn't called me back in regards to that one machine to get it locked down for the kid. I am glad it worked and I am sure her wallet is appreciated too now that it works. Speaking of which, I need to call her to see if I can get some leads. APK - I will say it again, the guide is FANTASTIC! Its made my PC experience much easier. Sandboxing was great. Getting my host file updated, setting services to system service, rather than system local. (except AVG updater, needed system local)"
THRONKA@xtremepccentral.com
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It most certainly is a form of "system hardening".
(Especially considering it's not just registry reconfigurations & such, but far more!)
AND? Hey - It just works!
(& in my P.S. below is another example of that & how/why)
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"No amount of registry tweaking and software uninstallation can make Windows match up to the results from either of those projects." - by ion.simon.c (1183967) on Friday May 01, @08:57PM (#27794675)
OH, I "beg to differ", & so does NASDAQ!
(NASDAQ sees 99.999%/fabled "5-9's" of 'uptime' that Windows Server 2003 + SQLServer 2005 have achieved for NASDAQ (The world's largest electronically traded stock exchange & a very high "tpm" environs), since 2005, on the "industrial front", for nearly 5 yrs. now)
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NASDAQ Migrates to SQL Server 2005:
http://windowsfs.com/enews/nasdaq-migrates-to-sql-server-2005
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&, also see here ->
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NASDAQ Performance Statistics
http://www.nasdaqtrader.com/Trader.aspx?id=MarketShare
"NASDAQ is renowned for its high performance technology and has proven reliability with 99.999+% uptime. Whats more, firms count on NASDAQ for unsurpassed speed and tested capacity to execute trades quickly and efficiently."
APK
P.S.=> Again, & I have noted this in other posts here?
My buddy Jack (who has a "penchant for Pr0n" & the indiscriminate usage of javascript on EVERY site he visits (bad move, because today that is one of the MAIN "delivery/attack mechanisms" used in these things being put on others' machines)) went from literally getting 200++ malwares on his system per WEEK, down to MAYBE 1-2 a year &, the couple he gets, are a result of his use of javascript (& he knows + admits it)... after his application of my guide's steps.
Thus, once more, via such an example, albeit again (like THRONKA's written results above) from an "end-user" this time (not NASDAQ's fine example on the industrial front)?
It works! apk
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Re:Wait a second... Yes, regarding Windows
"The sad thing about Windows NT is that the design was pretty good, the implementation was OK, but the default security policy is totally useless" - by Jacques Chester (151652) on Tuesday April 28, @06:32AM (#27743403)
That's PRETTY EASILY ALTERED (well, IF you have a basic understanding of what's going on, userrights + ACL's &/or PORTS wise (IANA lists & NTFS + Registry level security etc. et al)), & the CIS Tool, a multiplatform "benchmark" of security compliance, based on "industry best practices", no less, & that's well respected enough for that purpose!
(CIS Tool truly makes it as simple as it gets to do MOST of what's needed for securing a Windows NT-based OS easily (and, other OS platforms also)... the evidence thereof, from an end-user's results after applying it (& more) shows that cleanly enough).
First though?
An example of uptime, AND stability, in a high tpm environs, industrially:
NASDAQ keeps on running 24x7, into the fabled "5-9's" of 99.999% uptime using Windows Server 2003 + SQLServer 2005 (in failover clusters) since late 2005, acting as the official dissemination system of official trade data:
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NASDAQ Migrates to SQL Server 2005:
http://windowsfs.com/enews/nasdaq-migrates-to-sql-server-2005 [windowsfs.com]
&/or
NASDAQ Uses SQL Server 2005 - Reducing Costs through Better Data Management:
http://blog.sqlauthority.com/2007/09/17/sqlauthority-news-nasdaq-uses-sql-server-2005-reducing-costs-through-better-data-management/ [sqlauthority.com]
"NASDAQ, the worlds first electronic stock market replaced its aging mainframe computers with Microsoft® SQL Server 2005 on two 4-node clusters to support its Market Data Dissemination System (MDDS). Every trade processed in the NASDAQ marketplace goes through the system with Microsoft® SQL Server 2005 handling some 5,000 transactions per second at market open. The system also responds to about 10,000 queries a day and is able to handle real-time queries against data without slowing the database down."
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Case Studies - Financial Services:
http://www.microsoft.com/sqlserver/2005/en/us/cs-financial-roi.aspx?pf=true [microsoft.com] [microsoft.com]
"NASDAQ Deploys SQL Server 2005 to Support Real-Time Trade Booking and Queries
NASDAQ, which became the worlds first electronic stock market in 1971, and remains the largest U.S. electronic stock market, is constantly looking for more-efficient ways to serve its members. As the organization prepared to retire its aging large mainframe computers, it deployed Microsoft® SQL Server 2005 on two 4-node clusters to support its Market Data Dissemination System (MDDS). Every trade that is processed in the NASDAQ marketplace goes through the MDDS system, with SQL Server 2005 handling some 5,000 transactions per second at market open. SQL Server 2005 simultaneously handles about 100,000 queries a day, using SQL Server 2005 Snapshot Isolation to support real-time queries against the data without slowing the database. NASDAQ is enjoying a lower total cost of ownership compared to the large mainframe computer system that the SQL Server 2005 deployment has replaced."
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SO, that all "said & aside" - You want PROOF of that "stability/uptime", you say?
OK, see here -> http://www.nasdaqtrader.com/Trader.aspx?id=MarketShare [nasdaqtrader.com] [nasdaqtrader.com]
"NASDAQ is renowned for its high performance technology and has proven reliability with 99.999+% uptime. Whats more, firms count on NASDAQ fo
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Re:Wait a second... Definitely: Read here vs. that
"I thought Windows was secure. Why not use that? *cough* *cough*" - by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 28, @05:30AM (#27743003)
Yes, why not? Especially w/ results like these (from BOTH 'end users', & from a high tpm (transactions per minute) industrial environs):
NASDAQ keeps on running 24x7, into the fabled "5-9's" of 99.999% uptime using Windows Server 2003 + SQLServer 2005 (in failover clusters) since late 2005, acting as the official dissemination system of official trade data:
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NASDAQ Migrates to SQL Server 2005:
http://windowsfs.com/enews/nasdaq-migrates-to-sql-server-2005
&/or
NASDAQ Uses SQL Server 2005 - Reducing Costs through Better Data Management:
"NASDAQ, the worlds first electronic stock market replaced its aging mainframe computers with Microsoft® SQL Server 2005 on two 4-node clusters to support its Market Data Dissemination System (MDDS). Every trade processed in the NASDAQ marketplace goes through the system with Microsoft® SQL Server 2005 handling some 5,000 transactions per second at market open. The system also responds to about 10,000 queries a day and is able to handle real-time queries against data without slowing the database down."
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Case Studies - Financial Services:
http://www.microsoft.com/sqlserver/2005/en/us/cs-financial-roi.aspx?pf=true [microsoft.com]
"NASDAQ Deploys SQL Server 2005 to Support Real-Time Trade Booking and Queries
NASDAQ, which became the worlds first electronic stock market in 1971, and remains the largest U.S. electronic stock market, is constantly looking for more-efficient ways to serve its members. As the organization prepared to retire its aging large mainframe computers, it deployed Microsoft® SQL Server 2005 on two 4-node clusters to support its Market Data Dissemination System (MDDS). Every trade that is processed in the NASDAQ marketplace goes through the MDDS system, with SQL Server 2005 handling some 5,000 transactions per second at market open. SQL Server 2005 simultaneously handles about 100,000 queries a day, using SQL Server 2005 Snapshot Isolation to support real-time queries against the data without slowing the database. NASDAQ is enjoying a lower total cost of ownership compared to the large mainframe computer system that the SQL Server 2005 deployment has replaced."
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SO, that all "said & aside" - You want PROOF of that "stability/uptime", you say?
OK, see here -> http://www.nasdaqtrader.com/Trader.aspx?id=MarketShare [nasdaqtrader.com]
"NASDAQ is renowned for its high performance technology and has proven reliability with 99.999+% uptime. Whats more, firms count on NASDAQ for unsurpassed speed and tested capacity to execute trades quickly and efficiently."
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AND, now, from an end-user's perspective, once Windows has been "security-hardened" (& CIS Tool helps make THAT an 'easier job' for end-users too)?
See this -> http://www.xtremepccentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=e8281208df2ccba74470d6c68e047d40&t=28430&page=3
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"ts 2009 - still trouble free!
I was told last week by a co worker who does active directory administration, and he said I was doing overkill. I told him yes, but I just eliminated the half life in windows that you usually get. He said
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"Better technology" ?? Proof otherwise, inside...
"Microshaft and The-Cult-of-Apple - have made it nearly impossible to let better technology succeed." - by filesiteguy (695431) on Thursday April 23, @09:53PM (#27697105) Homepage
"Better technology"?
It's going to be "tough sledding" convincing anyone of that, after this:
(Especially since the 'topic @ hand' is stock exchanges)
And on that note/in THAT arena? Well, take a read below next:
NASDAQ keeps on running 24x7, into the fabled "5-9's" of 99.999% uptime using Windows Server 2003 + SQLServer 2005 (in failover clusters) since late 2005, acting as the official dissemination system of official trade data:
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NASDAQ Migrates to SQL Server 2005:
http://windowsfs.com/enews/nasdaq-migrates-to-sql-server-2005 [windowsfs.com] [windowsfs.com]
&/or
NASDAQ Uses SQL Server 2005 - Reducing Costs through Better Data Management:
"NASDAQ, the worlds first electronic stock market replaced its aging mainframe computers with Microsoft® SQL Server 2005 on two 4-node clusters to support its Market Data Dissemination System (MDDS). Every trade processed in the NASDAQ marketplace goes through the system with Microsoft® SQL Server 2005 handling some 5,000 transactions per second at market open. The system also responds to about 10,000 queries a day and is able to handle real-time queries against data without slowing the database down."
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Case Studies - Financial Services:
http://www.microsoft.com/sqlserver/2005/en/us/cs-financial-roi.aspx?pf=true
"NASDAQ Deploys SQL Server 2005 to Support Real-Time Trade Booking and Queries
NASDAQ, which became the worlds first electronic stock market in 1971, and remains the largest U.S. electronic stock market, is constantly looking for more-efficient ways to serve its members. As the organization prepared to retire its aging large mainframe computers, it deployed Microsoft® SQL Server 2005 on two 4-node clusters to support its Market Data Dissemination System (MDDS). Every trade that is processed in the NASDAQ marketplace goes through the MDDS system, with SQL Server 2005 handling some 5,000 transactions per second at market open. SQL Server 2005 simultaneously handles about 100,000 queries a day, using SQL Server 2005 Snapshot Isolation to support real-time queries against the data without slowing the database. NASDAQ is enjoying a lower total cost of ownership compared to the large mainframe computer system that the SQL Server 2005 deployment has replaced."
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You want PROOF of that "stability/uptime", you say?
OK, see here -> http://www.nasdaqtrader.com/Trader.aspx?id=MarketShare
"NASDAQ is renowned for its high performance technology and has proven reliability with 99.999+% uptime. Whats more, firms count on NASDAQ for unsurpassed speed and tested capacity to execute trades quickly and efficiently."
APK
P.S.=> Any *NIX being "better technology" than THAT from above? Well, that'd be purely opinion, only (vs. facts above)... apk
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Quite the opposite Rioting Pacifist
"Didn't atleast one of those suffer major down time after switching from unix to windows?" - by RiotingPacifist (1228016) on Thursday April 23, @07:16PM (#27695839)
NASDAQ keeps on running 24x7, into the fabled "5-9's" of 99.999% uptime using Windows Server 2003 + SQLServer 2005 (in failover clusters) since late 2005, acting as the official dissemination system of official trade data:
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NASDAQ Migrates to SQL Server 2005:
http://windowsfs.com/enews/nasdaq-migrates-to-sql-server-2005 [windowsfs.com] [windowsfs.com]
&/or
NASDAQ Uses SQL Server 2005 - Reducing Costs through Better Data Management:
"NASDAQ, the worlds first electronic stock market replaced its aging mainframe computers with Microsoft® SQL Server 2005 on two 4-node clusters to support its Market Data Dissemination System (MDDS). Every trade processed in the NASDAQ marketplace goes through the system with Microsoft® SQL Server 2005 handling some 5,000 transactions per second at market open. The system also responds to about 10,000 queries a day and is able to handle real-time queries against data without slowing the database down."
+
Case Studies - Financial Services:
http://www.microsoft.com/sqlserver/2005/en/us/cs-financial-roi.aspx?pf=true
"NASDAQ Deploys SQL Server 2005 to Support Real-Time Trade Booking and Queries
NASDAQ, which became the worlds first electronic stock market in 1971, and remains the largest U.S. electronic stock market, is constantly looking for more-efficient ways to serve its members. As the organization prepared to retire its aging large mainframe computers, it deployed Microsoft® SQL Server 2005 on two 4-node clusters to support its Market Data Dissemination System (MDDS). Every trade that is processed in the NASDAQ marketplace goes through the MDDS system, with SQL Server 2005 handling some 5,000 transactions per second at market open. SQL Server 2005 simultaneously handles about 100,000 queries a day, using SQL Server 2005 Snapshot Isolation to support real-time queries against the data without slowing the database. NASDAQ is enjoying a lower total cost of ownership compared to the large mainframe computer system that the SQL Server 2005 deployment has replaced."
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You want PROOF of that "stability/uptime", you say?
OK, see here -> http://www.nasdaqtrader.com/Trader.aspx?id=MarketShare
"NASDAQ is renowned for its high performance technology and has proven reliability with 99.999+% uptime. Whats more, firms count on NASDAQ for unsurpassed speed and tested capacity to execute trades quickly and efficiently."
APK
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"Moving away from Windows is necessary" = b.s.
"Moving away from Windows is simply necessary judging by the kinds of attacks described" - by erroneus (253617) on Saturday April 18, @07:13PM (#27631191) Homepage
No, it's not, IF you know how to secure it, per a guide such as this one -> http://www.tcmagazine.com/forums/index.php?s=ced36a7f152cf6e6f138af849a4fe3a7&showtopic=2662
Where people who have used it (end users-wise), have gotten results such as this one:
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"Its 2009 - still trouble free!
I was told last week by a co worker who does active directory administration, and he said I was doing overkill. I told him yes, but I just eliminated the half life in windows that you usually get. He said good point. So from 2008 till 2009. No speed decreases, its been to a lan party, moved around in a move, and it still NEVER has had the OS reinstalled besides the fact I imaged the drive over in 2008.
Great stuff!
My client STILL Hasn't called me back in regards to that one machine to get it locked down for the kid. I am glad it worked and I am sure her wallet is appreciated too now that it works. Speaking of which, I need to call her to see if I can get some leads.
APK - I will say it again, the guide is FANTASTIC! Its made my PC experience much easier. Sandboxing was great. Getting my host file updated, setting services to system service, rather than system local. (except AVG updater, needed system local)"
THRONKA @ xtremepccentral.com
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And, as far as stability/uptime, AND SECURITY, in a corporate environs (and, in a high tpm example no less)?
Look no further than NASDAQ, here:
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NASDAQ Migrates to SQL Server 2005:
http://windowsfs.com/enews/nasdaq-migrates-to-sql-server-2005 [windowsfs.com] [windowsfs.com] [windowsfs.com]
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Where Windows Server 2003 + SQLServer 2005 does, and has done for YEARS now mind you, a great job of being the official disseminator of trade data @ NASDAQ, running into the "fabled 5-9's" of 99.999% uptime for years now, 24x7, via failover clustering... that was back in 2006 (possibly earlier, as that is only the date of the article)...
Best of ALL? Hey, it's Windows!
(Which means you probably already own & are familiar w/ Microsoft + Win32 applications on every level of use there is...)
APK
P.S.=> How secure an OS is, is dependent on the person(s) running the machine/network, & their diligence as well as "know-how"... this extends to ANY OS there is, period, and you ALL know it (despite the "Pro-*NIX" bias this website has bigtime)... additionally?
The ONLY reason Linux is not as victimized, is because it is less used. Now, make Linux take as much share of the market as Windows enjoys? Linux WILL be hit as hard, if not harder...
I.E.-> Today's malware makers are after your personal information and monies, after all, & they shoot @ the largest target there is - Windows!
I mean, hey - the very fact that webbrowsers on Linux can run Javascript alone indicates they are just as vulnerable, via the webbrowsers themselves, as is Windows...
(& please, don't try to tell us "*NIX is invulnerable", because this -> http://blogs.zdnet.com/security/?p=3157 clearly shows otherwise, & is only a "portent of things to come")... apk
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"Windows should be ruled out" = b.s.
"One thing which is absolutely clear; Windows should be ruled out" - by rtfa-troll (1340807) on Sunday April 19, @04:16AM (#27634457)
Not if you know how to secure & administer it, properly (this goes for ANY OS out there mind you), per a guide such as this one:
http://www.tcmagazine.com/forums/index.php?s=7e43749a95b34ffdc7e782a0d5bedc58&showtopic=2662
Where users who have applied it have experienced results such as this one:
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"Its 2009 - still trouble free!
I was told last week by a co worker who does active directory administration, and he said I was doing overkill. I told him yes, but I just eliminated the half life in windows that you usually get. He said good point. So from 2008 till 2009 No speed decreases, its been to a lan party, moved around in a move, and it still NEVER has had the OS reinstalled besides the fact I imaged the drive over in 2008.
Great stuff!
My client STILL Hasn't called me back in regards to that one machine to get it locked down for the kid. I am glad it worked and I am sure her wallet is appreciated too now that it works. Speaking of which, I need to call her to see if I can get some leads.
APK - I will say it again, the guide is FANTASTIC! Its made my PC experience much easier. Sandboxing was great. Getting my host file updated, setting services to system service, rather than system local. (except AVG updater, needed system local)"
THRONKA @ xtremepccentral.com
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And, as far as the stability AND SECURITY of a Windows machine, in a HIGH TRANSACTIONS-PER-MINUTE (TPM) ENVIRONS? Look no further than NASDAQ:
(Because, for stability? Windows has DEFINITELY "made it", & well (w/ proof thereof below) in that area, as well, per this evidence thereof)
Windows Server 2003 + SQLServer 2005 does, and has done for YEARS now mind you, a great job of being the official disseminator of trade data @ NASDAQ, running into the "fabled 5-9's" of 99.999% uptime for years now, 24x7, via failover clustering... that was back in 2006 (possibly earlier, as that is only the date of the article):
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NASDAQ Migrates to SQL Server 2005:
http://windowsfs.com/enews/nasdaq-migrates-to-sql-server-2005 [windowsfs.com] [windowsfs.com]
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Best of ALL? Hey, it's Windows!
(Which means you probably already own & are familiar w/ Microsoft + Win32 applications on every level of use there is...)
APK
P.S.=> The ONLY reason Linux is not as victimized, is because it is less used... make Linux take as much share of the market as Windows enjoys? Linux WILL be hit as hard, if not harder...
I.E.-> Today's malware makers are after your personal information and monies, after all, & they shoot @ the largest target there is - Windows!
I mean, hey - the very fact that webbrowsers on Linux can run Javascript alone indicates they are just as vulnerable, via the webbrowsers themselves, as is Windows...
(& please, don't try to tell us "*NIX is invulnerable", because this -> http://blogs.zdnet.com/security/?p=3157 clearly shows otherwise, & is only a "portent of things to come")... apk
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Windows Server 2k3 fully security hardened/patched
See subject-line: It will do the job, securely (this often depends as much on the person(s) administrating the system &/or network around it, as much as staying current w/ systemcode security patches also), if one follows a guide for that (down to the workstation network node levels, from servers on down, to all endpoints) such as this one:
http://www.tcmagazine.com/forums/index.php?s=041749be01ad8c44e0f3e7ae54129780&showtopic=2662 [tcmagazine.com]
Where Windows NT-based OS' were shown to score (up from the default of 46.xxx/100, which Linux systems score by default as well) 87-99.058/100 scores, @ both the server and workstation levels on the CIS Tool multiplatform security compliance system.
Also, for stability, Windows has "made it" in that area, as well, per this evidence thereof:
Windows Server 2003 + SQLServer 2005 does, and has done for YEARS now mind you, a great job of being the official disseminator of trade data @ NASDAQ, running into the "fabled 5-9's" of 99.999% uptime for years now, 24x7, via failover clustering... that was back in 2006 (possibly earlier, as that is only the date of the article):
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NASDAQ Migrates to SQL Server 2005:
http://windowsfs.com/enews/nasdaq-migrates-to-sql-server-2005 [windowsfs.com] [windowsfs.com]
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Best of ALL? Hey, it's Windows!
(Which means you probably already own & are familiar w/ Microsoft + Win32 applications on every level of use there is...)
APK
P.S.=> One thing I like about Windows, @ least up to Windows Server 2003 (which installs by default, as a 'workstation/pro' desktop model, to which you add "back-office" enterprise-class apps onto, only if needed, later?)
Well mainly is that
(Once they went w/ the VMS underpinnings design of NT 3.x, I knew they had a winner (when I tried NT 3.51), & that ran pretty good on a 486 66mhz 32mb RAM machine)...
There are a couple things, mainly the HOSTS file in VISTA mostly I don't like (no longer being able to use the more efficient 0 based Blocking IP address in a HOSTS file, vs. the larger, slower, & more bloating on disk 0.0.0.0, & worse so, 127.0.0.1 on all accounts), so, that's why I am not going to include it as a recommendation here...
(Others might cite things like DRM, messing around w/ OpenGL, the 3 driver/3 level defense in the IP stack on filtering being another, vs. VISTA/Server2k8/Windows 7 using the SINGLE layer based WFP instead (one I think is VERY debatable in fact), & as well as things I am not even stating that I could not think of @ least, offhand)... apk
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Windows Server 2k3 fully patched/security hardened
See subject-line: It will do the job, securely (this often depends as much on the person(s) administrating the system &/or network around it, as much as staying current w/ systemcode security patches also), if one follows a guide for that (down to the workstation network node levels, from servers on down, to all endpoints) such as this one:
http://www.tcmagazine.com/forums/index.php?s=041749be01ad8c44e0f3e7ae54129780&showtopic=2662
Where Windows NT-based OS' were shown to score (up from the default of 46.xxx/100, which Linux systems score by default as well) 87-99.058/100 scores, @ both the server and workstation levels on the CIS Tool multiplatform security compliance system.
Also, for stability, Windows has "made it" in that area, as well, per this evidence thereof:
Windows Server 2003 + SQLServer 2005 does, and has done for YEARS now mind you, a great job of being the official disseminator of trade data @ NASDAQ, running into the "fabled 5-9's" of 99.999% uptime for years now, 24x7, via failover clustering... that was back in 2006 (possibly earlier, as that is only the date of the article):
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NASDAQ Migrates to SQL Server 2005:
http://windowsfs.com/enews/nasdaq-migrates-to-sql-server-2005 [windowsfs.com]
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Best of ALL? Hey, it's Windows!
(Which means you probably already own & are familiar w/ Microsoft + Win32 applications on every level of use there is...)
APK
P.S.=> One thing I like about Windows, @ least up to Windows Server 2003 (which installs by default, as a 'workstation/pro' desktop model, to which you add "back-office" enterprise-class apps onto, only if needed, later?)
Well mainly is that "Windows" has come a LONG ways since Windows 3.0, which was my first version I tried!
(Once they went w/ the VMS underpinnings design of NT 3.x, I knew they had a winner, & that ran pretty good on a 486 66mhz 32mb RAM machine)...
There are a couple things, mainly something done to the HOSTS file in VISTA mostly I don't like (no longer being able to use the more efficient 0 based Blocking IP address in a HOSTS file, vs. the larger, slower, & more bloating on disk 0.0.0.0, & worse so, 127.0.0.1 on all accounts), so, that's why I am not going to include it as a recommendation here...
(Others might cite things like DRM, messing around w/ OpenGL, the 3 driver/3 level defense in the IP stack on filtering being another, vs. VISTA/Server2k8/Windows 7 using the SINGLE layer based WFP instead (one I think is VERY debatable in fact), & as well as things I am not even stating that I could not think of @ least, offhand)... apk
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Re:Microsoft Begs Win 7 Testers To Clean Install
"Is as secure? Uhhhhh - you'll have to offer more than a "take my word" statement to that effect. Windows what, is as secure as what, exactly? You are hoping that Win7 is as secure as SEL?" - by Runaway1956 (1322357) on Thursday April 09, @04:13PM (#27523671) Homepage
Windows IS easily as secure as an SeLinux kernel hook addon bearing Linux distro in fact, if not moreso, once they are security hardened, & that IS what SeLinux adds onto "normal Linux" distros!
(I say this, because the highest score I have seen on the CIS Tool multiplatform benchmark of security test based on "industry best practices" for each OS tested's security settings/configurations, was 90/100, whereas I have seen & done a Windows 2000 Professional system up to 99.058/100, & a Windows Server 2003 (server-class) OS up to 86/100 (& ALL of them, inclusive of *NIX distros, usually score 46/100 or so, outta-the-box/oem-stock configured))
The evidence to this is here -> http://www.xtremepccentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=c92dde4c57f7304da17d4f3b38fef1e3&t=28430&page=3f &, even more of it exists in reply to your next statement I will quote next:
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"Ahem. You'll excuse me if I wait for a LOT of people to start saying so? Experience teaches us that every time Microsoft enhances their security, first, people defeat that security on their own machines, then the crackers defeat that security from the outside." - by Runaway1956 (1322357) on Thursday April 09, @04:13PM (#27523671) Homepage
To that? Read this user's testimonial of NO VIRUS/TROJAN/SPYWARE/ROOTKIT/MALWARE-IN-GENERAL infestations for more than 1++ yrs. strong now for himself, his family, & his paying client(s) as well, after the security guidance of CIS Tool & a guide I authored, which he used & followed to the letter in detail:
PERTINENT QUOTE/EXCERPT EVIDENCE THEREOF:
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"Its 2009 - still trouble free!
I was told last week by a co worker who does active directory administration, and he said I was doing overkill. I told him yes, but I just eliminated the half life in windows that you usually get. He said good point.
So from 2008 till 2009 No speed decreases, its been to a lan party, moved around in a move, and it still NEVER has had the OS reinstalled besides the fact I imaged the drive over in 2008.
Great stuff!
My client STILL Hasn't called me back in regards to that one machine to get it locked down for the kid. I am glad it worked and I am sure her wallet is appreciated too now that it works. Speaking of which, I need to call her to see if I can get some leads.
APK - I will say it again, the guide is FANTASTIC! Its made my PC experience much easier. Sandboxing was great. Getting my host file updated, setting services to system service, rather than system local. (except AVG updater, needed system local)"
THRONKA @ -> http://www.xtremepccentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=c92dde4c57f7304da17d4f3b38fef1e3&t=28430&page=3
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AND, as far as addtional stability &/or security, albeit, this time on the "industrial front", in a high-transaction 24x7 operation? Witness Windows Server 2003 + SQLServer 2005 acting as the OFFICIAL disseminator of trade data @ NASDAQ for over 5++ yrs. now, w/ uptime going well into the "fabled '5-9's'" of 99.999% uptime:
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NASDAQ Migrates to SQL Server 2005:
http://windowsfs.com/enews/nasdaq-migrates-to-sql-server-2005
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(Linux being 'superior to that' is a judgement call, & one that largely depends on the person/team(s) admin'ing it also... this goes for A
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Re:2000 = no DEP & no TcpChimney IP parameters
"from your reference, which says 2000 "does not run background apps" - by perryizgr8 (1370173) on Friday March 27, @12:04PM (#27358537)
Perry, Windows 2000 DOES run backgrounded tasks (such as drivers, services, & even apps via the registry "run areas" & startup groups)... &, just like Windows XP, Server 2003, VISTA, Server 2008, & Windows 7 do (as did Windows 9x, NT 3.5x-4.0, etc.)... pre-emptively no less.
They most likely meant "not as many backgrounded apps" by default, such as services (because 2000 has a LOT less of those than XP does by default).
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"of course i've not used 2000, that's why i was asking." - by perryizgr8 (1370173) on Friday March 27, @12:04PM (#27358537)
Fair enough then, now that I am aware of it... I gave you only SOME differences between Windows 2000 & its descendants in Windows XP/Server 2003/VISTA/Server 2008, & Windows 7 - &, there are others...
(Fact is, I gave you BOTH protective AND performance gaining ones & ones actually IN FAVOR of XP/Server2003/Server 2006/VISTA/Windows 7, in fact.)
Were I to choose "the best overall OS" that MS has, right now?
Windows Server 2003 SP#2 fully hotfix patched.
Secure & stable enough to keep NASDAQ running 24x7, to the fabled "5-9's" of 99.999% uptime because Windows Server 2003 + SQLServer 2005 does, and has done for YEARS now mind you, a great job of being the official disseminator of trade data @ NASDAQ, running into the "fabled 5-9's" of 99.999% uptime for years now, 24x7, via failover clustering... that was back in 2006 (possibly earlier, as that is only the date of the article):
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NASDAQ Migrates to SQL Server 2005:
http://windowsfs.com/enews/nasdaq-migrates-to-sql-server-2005 [windowsfs.com]
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As well as users (once they "security-harden" their Windows NT-based OS per this guide I wrote up in late 2007 (an extension of the older guide I wrote up for security & speedup of Windows NT-based OS' from NTCompatible.com circa 1998 &/or NeoWin forums guides, circa 2001, copied verbatim from my NTCompatible.com model no less & rated well) seeing NO malware infestations once they applied that guide of mine's points, for more than 1++ yrs. now of faster, stable, trouble-free operation:
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HOW TO SECURE Windows 2000/XP/Server 2003 & even VISTA, + make it "fun-to-do", via CIS Tool Guidance (& beyond):
http://www.tcmagazine.com/forums/index.php?s=9783f30ecf36d1be841544233b95fdf8&showtopic=2662&st=0&start=0 [tcmagazine.com]
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USER FEEDBACK/TESTIMONIAL:
(Using a verbatim quote/User Testimonial, of 1++ yr. virus/spyware/trojan/rootkit/worm/malware-in-general trouble-free stable, fast, & secure operation as the result while using Microsoft Windows once security-hardened)
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"Its 2009 - still trouble free!
I was told last week by a co worker who does active directory administration, and he said I was doing overkill. I told him yes, but I just eliminated the half life in windows that you usually get. He said good point.
So from 2008 till 2009. No speed decreases, its been to a lan party, moved around in a move, and it still NEVER has had the OS reinstalled besides the fact I imaged the drive over in 2008.
Great stuff!
My client STILL Hasn't called me back in regards to that one machine to get it locked down for the kid. I am glad it worked and I am sure her wallet is appreciated too now
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Os/2 & VMS also live on in Windows NT-based OS
"VMS isn't dead either. It's still supported for VAX, Alpha and Itanium hardware, although you can only buy new Itanium systems running it. Somewhat ironically, the 4-ring protection model introduced with the 80386 was designed to make porting VMS to Intel chips (from VAX) easier. Instead, VMS went to Alpha, which only had two protection modes..." - by TheRaven64 (641858) on Thursday March 26, @02:21PM (#27345419) Homepage
Agreed, & that's one I've had exposure to, from the midrange &/or mainframe world in the 1980's - 1990's as well... &, it also "lives on" in other ways, per my subject-line in my reply here:
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"It's still supported for VAX, Alpha and Itanium hardware, although you can only buy new Itanium systems running it. Somewhat ironically, the 4-ring protection model introduced with the 80386 was designed to make porting VMS to Intel chips (from VAX) easier. Instead, VMS went to Alpha, which only had two protection modes..." - by TheRaven64 (641858) on Thursday March 26, @02:21PM (#27345419) Homepage
However, since this is about PC OS' I would think, though the title doesn't say so specifically, but those are mostly the examples we've been shown? I think this one's about PC OS' I.E.-> Moreso than those for mainframes & midranges, like IBM System 34/36/38's & AS400 (now called zOS iirc)?
Imo, this is sort of important (as to VMS and OS/2 "still living on"):
That OS, in (OS/2) by IBM + Microsoft, became a good part of the Windows NT-based OS family by Microsoft really, & I really liked it, &, there is a reason I mention it.
(GammaTech Utilities backup & disk defrag come to mind, good stuff that rounded Os/2 2.0-Warp 4 out nicely!)
Also in the Windows NT-based OS family by Microsoft, what other OS ontop of Os/2 are in its foundations??
You guessed it:
VMS by Digital
(Since its designer/architect (D. Cutler) was from DEC... )
So, VMS & OS/2 aren't "really totally dead", either, if you think about it.
"Old Chevy's never die: They just get faster"
As the saying goes!
(I suppose, that I could also say that "Windows 95 lives on" in the GUI interface as well I suppose, but, that's technically not an OS, only a shell for it... & even things from UNIX are part of it, such as the BSD IP stack, but again, not an OS)
APK
P.S.=> Thought I'd add that all in, as to my thoughts on Os/2 &/or VMS still "living on" & how/why, as well as being in agreement - albeit, in a slightly different way, because they helped shape the most used Operating System on the planet in Windows NT based ones which run on the most used hardware platform on the planet in x86 that keeps NASDAQ going 24x7 to the "fabled '5-9's'" of 99.999% uptime via failover clustering in combination w/ SQLServer 2005 acting as the official trade data dessimination system for they -> http://windowsfs.com/enews/nasdaq-migrates-to-sql-server-2005 , as well as being shown (once security-hardened) to be virus/trojan/malware/spyware free for 1++ yrs. (&, for myself, the same & for more than a decade so for myself in fact) here -> http://www.xtremepccentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=df24f74dc34060c57fa9e14fb57e5a87&t=28430&page=3 as well as being extremely stable & with faster performance after tuning... apk
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Re:the workaround is bad design
"Microsoft runs a proprietary show where they 'set the standard' themselves" - by TheMMaster (527904) on Thursday March 19, @02:48PM (#27259629) Homepage
They sure do, and that standard runs on a good 95% of the world's PC's, from home user systems, up thru departmental LANs, & right up into enterprise-wide WANs + Back Office server type applications, on the most used hardware platform there is for personal computers & servers, in x86...
A standard that acts as the official disseminator of trade data @ NASDAQ using Windows Server + SQLServer 2005, & it has done so via failover clustering, for years now in a stable & consistent manner, running into the fabled "5-9's" of 99.999% uptime, since 2006 to present day:
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NASDAQ Migrates to SQL Server 2005:
http://windowsfs.com/enews/nasdaq-migrates-to-sql-server-2005 [windowsfs.com]
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AND, that stability also has been seen by end-users, once they FULLY 'security-harden' their Windows NT-based OS of modern variety, as shown here via quoted testimonial:
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HOW TO SECURE Windows 2000/XP/Server 2003 & even VISTA, + make it "fun-to-do", via CIS Tool Guidance (& beyond):
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USER FEEDBACK/TESTIMONIAL:
(Using a verbatim quote/User Testimonial, of 1++ yr. virus/spyware/trojan/rootkit/worm/malware-in-general trouble-free stable, fast, & secure operation as the result while using Microsoft Windows once security-hardened)
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"Its 2009 - still trouble free!
I was told last week by a co worker who does active directory administration, and he said I was doing overkill. I told him yes, but I just eliminated the half life in windows that you usually get. He said good point.
So from 2008 till 2009. No speed decreases, its been to a lan party, moved around in a move, and it still NEVER has had the OS reinstalled besides the fact I imaged the drive over in 2008.
Great stuff!
My client STILL Hasn't called me back in regards to that one machine to get it locked down for the kid. I am glad it worked and I am sure her wallet is appreciated too now that it works. Speaking of which, I need to call her to see if I can get some leads.
APK - I will say it again, the guide is FANTASTIC! Its made my PC experience much easier. Sandboxing was great. Getting my host file updated, setting services to system service, rather than system local. (except AVG updater, needed system local)"
THRONKA @ xtremepccentral.com
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As the saying goes?
"Nuff said"
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"THIS is why a) microsoft can't ever truly fix something and b) why using proprietary software screws over the user." - by TheMMaster (527904) on Thursday March 19, @02:48PM (#27259629) Homepage
That's funny: I don't see NTFS hosing people over like this ext4 fsync data-loss related problem...
APK
P.S.=> You can say what you wish in reply, I won't be there to see it. What I do know, is the facts noted above (& you are welcome to dispute them (to no avail, because facts ARE FACTS, & this article's topic even BACKS my 2nd statement in & of itself))... apk
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Re:Diebold and ATM message protocols ..
"To further quote your pointless reference..."
'The advanced Windows-based ATMs coming into use now mean the ATM is technologically close to the Internet banking channel, since both use client/server applications, TCP/IP, and other modern computing methods'
Top 10 Reasons for Using Microsoft Windows on ATMs
'unlike Linux, the Windows OS features systems management, security, and software distribution tools within the OS kernel, easing integration with a bank's existing infrastructure while obviating the need to purchase additional components, or build them from scratch' -
Re:The best things in life...
"Linux being a higher quality product--especially for the data center" - by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 16, @09:15AM (#27209055)
That's funny, because Windows Server 2003 + SQLServer 2005 does, and has done for YEARS now mind you, a great job of being the official disseminator of trade data @ NASDAQ, running into the "fabled 5-9's" of 99.999% uptime for years now, 24x7, via failover clustering... that was back in 2006 (possibly earlier, as that is only the date of the article):
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NASDAQ Migrates to SQL Server 2005:
http://windowsfs.com/enews/nasdaq-migrates-to-sql-server-2005
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(Linux being 'superior to that' is a judgement call, & one that largely depends on the person/team(s) admin'ing it also... this goes for ANY OS out there, not just Windows or *NIX variants)
As far as 'superiority' of Linux, why is it that you guys (*NIX people here) "beat your heads on the wall" in this posting here @
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Locking Down Linux Desktops In an Enterprise?
http://linux.slashdot.org/linux/09/03/09/236230.shtml
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There? Well, I saw a truckload of *NIX folks that just couldn't come up with easy answers to that question!
"Every OS to its right place" I say in response to your statement I quoted...
I.E.-> Whatever does the job @ reasonable cost & that your teams of techs/admins can handle also... each OS has its 'niches', where it fits, the best (purely a relative term)...
APK
P.S.=> On a closing note: Nothing like "chasing those upward modded posts" eh, fellow A/C? Especially IF you say something "Pro-*NIX" here, you can almost guarantee that the Linux 'leg-humpers' will 'mod you up' for it... that's one of the only "bitches" I have on this site, & I am not alone in it (well, that & discovering some posters here like to maintain alternate registered accounts to mod themselves up with that is -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1147437&cid=27056793 in "The End of Days" ) apk
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Re:More proof, just to BURN YOUR F.U.D. spreader A
http://www.gridtoday.com/grid/354702.html
http://www.internetnews.com/ent-news/article.php/3 491491
WoW... 2 dead links: Proud of you, that one, lol... I can't reach them, so, how can you show me this "proof" of yours, vs. this (and your OLD stale data, that's older than mine, here):
I read the link you posted, FROM MARCH 21 2005, vs. the one I POSTED, from November 2005... lol! Mine's oh, what... 8 months more current than yours?
YOU'RE OUTTA DATE/STALE, buddy!
Here's more:
Hey, tomhudson (43916), some vintage quotes of yours:
"That is a total lie. Not for trades. Nasdeq has never used either Tandem computers or Windows boxes for trades. Ever. Those Tandem computers that were replaced with Windows boxes never handled trades." - by tomhudson (43916) on Monday August 06, @07:08PM (#20135985)
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"The machines "disseminating the data" are not the same machines doing the trades. So yes, you ARE full of crap. Enjoy it." - by tomhudson (43916) on Monday August 06, @03:39PM (#20133501)
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Ok, you asked for it, here it is (others here CAN READ, you know, I'll let them judge (how's that))?
Securities: NASDAQ Migrates to SQL Server 2005:
"The system supports NASDAQs Market Data Dissemination System (MDDS). Every trade that is processed in the NASDAQ marketplace goes through MDDS, and MDDS keeps the official daily record of all trades. To support MDDS, SQL Server 2005 handles approximately 5,000 transactions per second at market open."
http://www.windowsfs.com/eNews/tabid/112/articleTy pe/ArticleView/articleId/933/Securities-NASDAQ-Mig rates-to-SQL-Server-2005.aspx
Dig this, bro, & dig it good:
EVERY TRADE pal, & its data... every trade goes THRU Windows Server 2003 & SQLServer 2005... you b.s. artist/"F.U.D." spreader, that had the sheer NERVE to call me names, & a shill above all else!
Also?
Note this part of it, too: "MDDS keeps the official daily record of all trades.", lol...
(Again - PROVE otherwise, to all of us reading here - you tried, but with STALE data, outdated stuff below!)
Hmmm, I see now, why you have TROLL in your signature here: YOU CAN'T HANDLE TRUTH, even if proven from reliable/reputable sources!
Read on, McDuff (proof of it is earlier & BELOW, verbatim, from one of the architects (Ken Richmond) of the system, AND that ALL DATA for trades passes thru MDDS, & from reputable sources no less):
First of all: NOTICE THE DATE OF YOUR initial "PROOF" (it is less current than mine was, which disputes AND disproves yours):
LOL!
The quote I cite below, is From RIGHT here (& FAR MORE CURRENT THAN YOUR MARCH 21st 2005 dated data, as this is from NOVEMBER 2005):
http://www.computerworld.com/databasetopics/data/s oftware/story/0,10801,106050,00.html
"Nasdaq replaced aging Tandem mainframes used to disseminate market trade data with a SQL Server 2005 system that handles 5,000 transactions per second and 100,000 queries a day and can scale up to 8 million new rows of data per day, according to Ken Richmond, vice president of engineering for the stock exchange."
Now, take a peek @ this above again ESPECIALLY ITS DATE, vs. your "proof" again, mine @ Nov2005, vs. yours @ Mar2005 (stale/old), also, because it further disproves your reply in an attempt to debate the above (your saying every trade did not go thru MDDS etc. in essence?)? Now if you are dyslexic? That is excusable... otherwise it is NOT!
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Your ideas -
More proof, just to BURN YOUR F.U.D. spreader A$$
Hey, tomhudson (43916), some vintage quotes of yours:
"That is a total lie. Not for trades. Nasdeq has never used either Tandem computers or Windows boxes for trades. Ever. Those Tandem computers that were replaced with Windows boxes never handled trades." - by tomhudson (43916) on Monday August 06, @07:08PM (#20135985)
&
"The machines "disseminating the data" are not the same machines doing the trades. So yes, you ARE full of crap. Enjoy it." - by tomhudson (43916) on Monday August 06, @03:39PM (#20133501)
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Ok, you asked for it, here it is (others here CAN READ, you know, I'll let them judge (how's that))?
Securities: NASDAQ Migrates to SQL Server 2005:
"The system supports NASDAQs Market Data Dissemination System (MDDS). Every trade that is processed in the NASDAQ marketplace goes through MDDS, and MDDS keeps the official daily record of all trades. To support MDDS, SQL Server 2005 handles approximately 5,000 transactions per second at market open."
http://www.windowsfs.com/eNews/tabid/112/articleTy pe/ArticleView/articleId/933/Securities-NASDAQ-Mig rates-to-SQL-Server-2005.aspx
Dig this, bro, & dig it good:
EVERY TRADE pal, & its data... every trade goes THRU Windows Server 2003 & SQLServer 2005... you b.s. artist/"F.U.D." spreader, that had the sheer NERVE to call me names, & a shill above all else!
(Again - PROVE otherwise, to all of us reading here - you tried, but with STALE data, outdated stuff!)
Hmmm, I see now, why you have TROLL in your signature here: YOU CAN'T HANDLE TRUTH, even if proven from reliable/reputable sources!
Read on, McDuff (proof of it is above, verbatim, from one of the architects of the system, AND that ALL DATA for trades passes thru MDDS, & from reputable sources no less):
First of all: NOTICE THE DATE OF YOUR initial "PROOF" (it is less current than mine was, which disputes AND disproves yours):
The quote I cite below, is From RIGHT here (& FAR MORE CURRENT THAN YOUR MARCH 21st 2005 dated data, as this is from NOVEMBER 2005):
http://www.computerworld.com/databasetopics/data/s oftware/story/0,10801,106050,00.html
"Nasdaq replaced aging Tandem mainframes used to disseminate market trade data with a SQL Server 2005 system that handles 5,000 transactions per second and 100,000 queries a day and can scale up to 8 million new rows of data per day, according to Ken Richmond, vice president of engineering for the stock exchange."
Now, take a peek @ this, also, because it further disproves your reply in an attempt to debate the above (your saying every trade did not go thru MDDS etc. in essence?)? Now if you are dyslexic? That is excusable... otherwise it is NOT!
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Man, tomhudson (43916)... & I have to tell you this, you upset the hell out of me, with your flaming name-tossing b.s. directed my way, your posting your b.s. 2x here in this thread, & above all else?
YOU lowered me to YOUR level @ times here - the ONLY accomplishment you managed!
Your ideas of what runs things too in systems like that (front ends only from your perspective & how I understood your reply)?
WELL, apparently from what I read from you (YOU, as an admitted "maintenance coder" apparently from what you literally stated? Well, I design/write OR co-write, that level of application & have for 15++ years as a pro, per my other reply to you here, of "Enterprise Class level" apps like this, for many Fortune 100-500 companies no less, for "mission critical apps" of this nature)?
WAY, way, off... per the further proofs I am submitting here on this note.
APK
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Re:Kind of sensible
"Now, if they were moving over to Windows or something, then we could worry." - by ajs318 (655362) on Monday April 30, @07:47AM (#18925959)
It seems that a 24x7 high transaction in NASDAQ runs fine on a completely Windows Server 2003 environment (using failover clustering) with Microsoft SQLServer 2005 running the backend DB engines and IIS running the webserver side (stable too):
http://www.windowsfs.com/eNews/tabid/112/articleTy pe/ArticleView/articleId/933/Securities-NASDAQ-Mig rates-to-SQL-Server-2005.aspx
Why would anybody worry about using a Windows Server 2003 OS, when Microsoft has many companies (of highly business critical uptime nature and in high transaction environs, not just NASDAQ) running its wares (Operating System AND Database Engine) in such environs, and in a stable consistent manner? -
Re:NYSE: Microsoft (R) powered (R)
Actually, SQL Server 2005 is used by NASDAQ, not the NYSE - they are two completely different trading systems. The Dow Jones is an index of select stock listed on the NYSE.
The machines that calculate the Dow Jones Industrial Average are IBM hardware running Unix.
SQL Server running NASDAQ: http://www.windowsfs.com/eNews/tabid/112/articleTy pe/ArticleView/articleId/933/Securities-NASDAQ-Mig rates-to-SQL-Server-2005.aspx
IBM Unix Machines running NYSE and calculating the Dow Jones, as pointed out by another poster: http://www-03.ibm.com/industries/financialservices /doc/content/news/pressrelease/1567015103.html