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Microsoft Releases Super-Secure XP to US Air Force

Wired is reporting that Microsoft is releasing the most secure version of Windows XP ever created, but only if you are the US Air Force. "The Air Force persuaded Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer to provide it with a secure Windows configuration that saved the service about $100 million in contract costs and countless hours of maintenance. At a congressional hearing this week on cybersecurity, Alan Paller, research director of the Sans Institute, shared the story as an template for how the government could use its massive purchasing power to get companies to produce more secure products. And those could eventually be available to the rest of us. Security experts have been arguing for this "trickle-down" model for years. But rather than wield its buying power for the greater good, the government has long wimped out and taken whatever vendors served them. If the Air Force case is a good judge, however, things might be changing."

507 comments

  1. Autorun? by someone1234 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Now i see why they disabled autorun. :D

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    1. Re:Autorun? by lgw · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Maybe so. And while "the most secure XP ever" might not be that secure in absolute terms, I'm sure it's still a step forward. So even if the choice might not be ideal for the military, it really helps the average consumer (and I suspect that security wasn't the Air Force's primary concern - they just wanted to spend less on the patching treadmill). For once, I'm happy with my tax dollars at work.

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    2. Re:Autorun? by KingPin27 · · Score: 1

      Why disable autorun -- wouldn't it be nice to put in a CD of your favorite music from Top Gun and have your jet take off and "Fly By" tall buildings..
      Man all you have to do is sit back and enjoy the ride.

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    3. Re:Autorun? by courteaudotbiz · · Score: 2, Funny

      Nope, they removed the _NSAKEY. Or is it _KEY2?

    4. Re:Autorun? by TropicalCoder · · Score: 5, Insightful

      You're kidding aren't you? "85 percent of attacks were blocked after the configuration was installed". ...and the remaining 15% were not! The concept of a secure computer running Windows XP is a contradiction in terms. The military needs to do better than this, or China is gonna whup their ass.

    5. Re:Autorun? by cbiltcliffe · · Score: 3, Informative

      Modded troll by people who don't get security.

      99% secure is 100% insecure.

      It doesn't matter if there are 85% less vulnerabilities than before. The fact that there are still 15% left means a targeted attack will still succeed!

      All it takes is a single vulnerability, and you're security is useless.

      Stop using the troll mod as a replacement for either:
      "That makes me uncomfortable."
      or
      "I don't understand that."

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    6. Re:Autorun? by cbiltcliffe · · Score: 4, Funny

      You're security is useless?

      ARRRGGHH!

      Apparently, so is my grammar.

      See? Piss me off, and I can't spell.
      That must be my superhero weakness....

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    7. Re:Autorun? by Atlantis-Rising · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Next up: Why we don't lock our doors, because thieves might happen to carry lockpicks!

      After all, locks are not 100% secure, therefore, that security is totally useless, right?

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    8. Re:Autorun? by plague3106 · · Score: 1

      That depends... is the remaining 15% only explotable if you run code on the local computer, or are some of them remote exploitable?

    9. Re:Autorun? by tsm_sf · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Wrong analogy. Try: "This bucket has 85% fewer holes than Bucket XP."

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    10. Re:Autorun? by supernova_hq · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Exactly, locks (unless you pay a shitload for them) are not designed to keep people out. Any locksmith will tell you that the only thing a lock will do is make your neighbours house an easier target.

      Computer security is the same way. You *can* cracl WPA(1/2) encryption, but if you neighbour has his connection open (or is using WEP), you are not likely to become a target.

      The exception, which appears in this situation, is when you are chosen as a target due to a high payoff (military). In this case, simply being harder than your neighbour is NOT going to help you.

    11. Re:Autorun? by Onyma · · Score: 1

      "All it takes is a single vulnerability, and you're(sic) security is useless."

      You "get" security? Then you would understand that nothing is 100%, nothing.

      Everything has a 'single vulnerability' and a lot more than that, they just haven't been found yet. "Security" is relative and it works entirely on stats. How long might it take before someone finds a hole, how long might it take before someone runs enough iterations to "probably" break my password, how long might it take before someone decodes this data... it's all stats... always. And that stat is never "100% secure".

      This means 2 things. Will I take a system that is 85% more secure than what I have now? Hell yes. And will I ever stop looking for something more secure? Hell no.

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    12. Re:Autorun? by cbiltcliffe · · Score: 1

      In the case of random attacks, you're right.

      But this is the military we're talking about. Pretty much 100% of their attacks will be targeted.
      Nothing less than 100% secure will do.

      Is it possible? No. But it's certainly possible to get a hell of a lot closer than "85% less holes than regular XP!"

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    13. Re:Autorun? by icannotthinkofaname · · Score: 2, Funny

      See? Piss me off, and I can't spell.
      That must be my superhero weakness....

      Are you sure it isn't just an easter egg from when your parents raised you?

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    14. Re:Autorun? by roc97007 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Wow, that needs to pass into our lexicon. "Bucket XP".

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    15. Re:Autorun? by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 1

      Yes, they were afraid that the F-22 might be hacked by connecting a tampered USB AIM-120 flashdisk.

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    16. Re:Autorun? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If they're all 100% insecure, then why do people keep saying Linux and OSX are more secure than Windows?

    17. Re:Autorun? by Burning1 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Personally... If I'm being forced to patch a rusty old bucket, I'd rather start with the one that 85% less holes...

    18. Re:Autorun? by nabsltd · · Score: 5, Funny

      I think something like it is already there.

      I hear "bucket, it's XP" all the time around my office.

      What do you mean "you need to get your ear-ring checked?"

    19. Re:Autorun? by STSvatos · · Score: 1

      Better yet, Locks only keep Honest people out! and we all know that security crackers are "honest"...

    20. Re:Autorun? by vertinox · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Exactly, locks (unless you pay a shitload for them) are not designed to keep people out. Any locksmith will tell you that the only thing a lock will do is make your neighbours house an easier target.

      Arguably, an alarm system is more important in keeping people out than the lock on the door. If they kick down the door and a message goes off that lets them know that you know they are there and that the police are coming shortly, they usually won't stick around that long.

      Same thing applies to computer systems. It is more important to know that you have an intrusion as soon as possible than the actual prevention of the intrusion.

      Not that you want to leave the door unlocked, but rather you need the ability to lockdown and detect when someone is there when they shouldn't be.

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    21. Re:Autorun? by sgt+scrub · · Score: 1

      No sir. The thieves will just break through your windows too.

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    22. Re:Autorun? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No computer on earth is 100% secure. The only way to get a 100% secured computer is shutting it down. So by your standard all computer are 100% insecure, so we'd better stop worrying about security as it's impossible to do anything. Hmmm. Not.

    23. Re:Autorun? by kokojie · · Score: 1

      LOL, if you work in security, then you should know nothing is 100% secure. 99% is damn good

    24. Re:Autorun? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If MS engineers couldn't patch the other 15% flaws(and they created those holes to begin with), what makes you think you could?

    25. Re:Autorun? by timeOday · · Score: 5, Insightful

      99% secure is 100% insecure.

      Holding out for absolute perfection, I see. Let me know when you find it. I'm stuck here on planet Earth where nothing is 100% anything.

    26. Re:Autorun? by lymond01 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I disagree. Security is a layered thing, both in implementation and subversion. If I'm running Windows NT with no service packs and no firewall, I'm easily hacked by 90% of people.

      If I'm running Windows XP patched and firewalled, I'm easily hacked by 1% of the people. If I'm running OpenBSD fully patched with no open ports aside from SSH, I can be easily hacked by .01% of the people (likely a BSD or SSH developer who slipped in a back door).

      Nothing is 100% secure -- HOW secure you are is the important thing. If this super XP lets in 15% of attacks, you need to ask who knows and who would bother to run those attacks, as well as what other layers of security beyond the desktop are available.

      If you're running a desktop operating system "in the wild" with no patched firewall software of any kind to block basic traffic, then you should add that layer.

    27. Re:Autorun? by pyrbrand · · Score: 1

      You realize there is no such thing as 100% secure?

    28. Re:Autorun? by Facegarden · · Score: 5, Funny

      The exception, which appears in this situation, is when you are chosen as a target due to a high payoff (military). In this case, simply being harder than your neighbour is NOT going to help you.

      So, what you're saying is, we need to let our economy keep tanking until people would rather hack into Canada?
      -Taylor

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    29. Re:Autorun? by GeekWade · · Score: 1

      Next up: Why we don't lock our doors, because thieves might happen to carry lockpicks!

      After all, locks are not 100% secure, therefore, that security is totally useless, right?

      Actually, I don't lock my doors because that would mean either a broken door jam or a broken window. If they don't care about the dogs, the "Protected by S&W" & "Guns don't kill people. I kill people!" stickers, or the mail box full of gun rags, then they wont care about damaging my house to get my goodies...

    30. Re:Autorun? by sgt_doom · · Score: 1

      Well, my good fellow tsm_sf, so long as there aren't any Bit Bucket overflows.....

    31. Re:Autorun? by Paracelcus · · Score: 1

      The BEST network security is to enable your Ethernet/wifi/bluetooth connection(s) only when you need them, and use common sense when connected.

      Sensitive materials/HDD(s)should be encrypted and or obfuscated with steganography.

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    32. Re:Autorun? by huckamania · · Score: 1

      The 85% does not refer to the number of vulnerabilities, but the number of attacks, crafted by the NSA, that no longer succeeded. It also doesn't refer exclusively to Windows XP but to the Air Force's entire network, including 3rd party apps that run on XP.

      Still, I mostly agree with your point. Security should have long ago moved out onto the network, using a bump in the wire that does not connect back into the network. You can't trust security software on a client machine because once the client is infected, the security software is suspect as well.

    33. Re:Autorun? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Personally... If I'm being forced to patch a rusty old bucket, I'd rather start with the one that 85% less holes...

      It's all the same for me. I'd just replace it with a new bucket anyways.

    34. Re:Autorun? by BikeHelmet · · Score: 1

      Every OS has holes. 99.9% (aka, almost all) of software has unknown bugs/exploits.

      Just about everything is insecure - but some operating systems are so secure that no normal hacker will get in.

      BSD varients are probably about as good as it gets.

    35. Re:Autorun? by Yuan-Lung · · Score: 1

      Exactly, locks (unless you pay a shitload for them) are not designed to keep people out. Any locksmith will tell you that the only thing a lock will do is make your neighbours house an easier target. Computer security is the same way.

      Actually I'd argue there is still enough difference between the meat space analogy and actualy computer security to make it not work.

      It's a lot of work (comparatively) for a thief to physically break into a house and loot the valuables. So they actually do recon work ahead of time to ensure they have an easier target with better potential pay off.


      However, it's relatively low cost for someone with access to a botnet to just try a range of attacks on a large number of potential victims. If you are vulnerable the attack, it doesn't matter if you are "15% more secure" than the next guy. You will just both get owned.

    36. Re:Autorun? by phantomcircuit · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You *can* crack WPA(1/2) encryption

      The best known attack against WPA2 is a bruteforce attack. The basis of WPA2 in PSK mode is a 256 bit AES cipher. The key is based on both the password and the SSID (the SSID acts as a salt).

      WPA2 with a good password is a perfect example of a truly secure protocol. If you started to crack my home wireless network you might finish around the time that the run is running out of fuel and certainly long after humanity has either evolved to something entirely unrecognizable or is extinct.

    37. Re:Autorun? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And so the reason you dont get broken into is because the thieves think you're an ignorant inbred redneck with nothing worth stealing.

    38. Re:Autorun? by w0mprat · · Score: 1

      Modded troll by people who don't get security

      All it takes is a single vulnerability, and you're security is useless.

      People who don't get security don't fully grasp the way in that all software fundamentally has vulnerabilities - the more complex software becomes, up to the level of a modern operating system the more outright impossible it becomes to plug every last hole.

      Buy your measure, no software can have the secure label slapped on it. What has happened here is that Microsoft has made XP secure up to perhaps the level of Linux. *ducks* IMHO, properly hardened *nix is superior again. But for all practical purposes this version of XP would be pretty much 'good enough', and arguably more secure than some arbitrary non-hardened linux distro.

      The real criticism of the Air Force here is purely one of principal: Rather than safety in obscurity, they chose the most attacked and exploited operating system in history to run their boxes.

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    39. Re:Autorun? by geekoid · · Score: 1

      Minor correction for you:
      "Arguably, people thinking you have an alarm system is more important in keeping people out than the lock on the door."

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    40. Re:Autorun? by gwbennett · · Score: 0

      Turn up your hand grenade!

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    41. Re:Autorun? by rubycodez · · Score: 1

      but Microsoft isn't offering a patched bucket, it's more like one that now has sides with the handle, but still no bottom

    42. Re:Autorun? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What do you mean by "police".

      Sure we have an extra line on our council tax for "police" but I always assumed it was some sort of financial term. Are they related to the person that comes 8 hours after you report a burglary to tell you it's too late in the day to find fingerprints and lift the footprints in the garden because it's dark now, and oh what have you been waiting in all day for.

      They also helpfully told me as I'm not rich my stuff isn't worth them looking for.

      Nope, not bitter. NOT BITTER.

    43. Re:Autorun? by RobertM1968 · · Score: 1

      LoL!

      I'd love to see that wired shot as video instead of a pic... get to see BallmerRun (to the chair the USAF was smart enough to keep as far away from him as possible).

    44. Re:Autorun? by RobertM1968 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Nah, doesnt really work that way. With tens of thousands (or is it hundreds of thousands as I read someplace else?) of these exploits out there for Windows XP, being secure against 85% isn't saying much. Compare that to the number of exploits out there for OpenBSD (times) .01% (times) the number of possible attackers (which will give you a fraction of an exploit).

      Yes, nothing is secure, but 85%/15% is not a good ratio when compared with the number of exploits times the number of already exploited machines out there that may be attacking said 85/15 machine.

    45. Re:Autorun? by DarkOx · · Score: 2, Informative

      It depends, physical security and data security are not always comparable in that sense. Yes the obnoxious alarm and police being on the way is a problem if you need to load up 50" tv and stereo into your van while fending off the dog.

      The computer paging the owner on the other hand might not be a problem. If what I want is your identity and you have a fast connection I could copy an awful lot your how directory before you could even get to a keyboard to the machine to see what is happening, or shut it down.

      Changes are you know something about the targets you are going after. If I was cracking random windows boxes I would probably target *.doc*, *.xls*, whatever extension various tax software might use, and some other things under c:\documents and settings. Linux/Unix PCs and workstations same things only oo's extensions and /home.

      If I were attacking cooperate platforms I would be after access databases, excel sheets, on servers with "fs" in the name. Whatever ...

      You have these things scripted before you break in. These scripts can get pretty smart with a little work, probably less working the the hack itself by miles, and you can do a lots of damage in only a few seconds.

      So yea detecting an breach fast is important but keeping them out in the first place probably is more import in the networked data security world than the physical world.

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    46. Re:Autorun? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So do you then go spend $100 on a more advanced lock that is 85% secure, or do you buy a deadbolt and a chain?

    47. Re:Autorun? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Judging by my Apache logs it isn't just one attack at a time turning up. They seem to come in suites.
      A real shotgun approach. You only need one of them to overlap the 15% of vulns and they're in.

    48. Re:Autorun? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes well on my planet Earth we've invented some very cool things like superconductivity and superfluids, so I can say we have a couple of 100%s.

    49. Re:Autorun? by lgw · · Score: 1

      All boats leak. A boat floats if you can bail it faster than it leaks. Fewer holes make for less wasted effort bailing 9or in this case, lower admin costs patching).

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    50. Re:Autorun? by lgw · · Score: 1

      No system is 100% secure. Not any. Not one. That's not what security *means*. Security is the ratio of how difficult is it for an attacker to compromise you to how hard it is to do your job.

      The Air Force doesn't put anything it really considers important on machines connected to the public internet. It has other internets, only accessible from terminals guarded by guys with guns, for that purpose. Those networks are still less than 100% secure, of course. This isn't about "keep the CHinese hackers from stealing our secrets", but about "make it cheaper to admin these XP boxes: the patch treadmill sucks".

      Even if only 1 human has access to a system, that human might still choose to sell your secrets to your enemy.

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    51. Re:Autorun? by lgw · · Score: 1

      Maybe that helps a tiny bit. An attacker with real resources will burst-transmit whatever info he collects when the opportunity presents itself. Listening devices that work this way are probably older than personal computers - hardly a novel concept.

      Encryption and steganography are useless aginst a keylogger, and nearly useless against "hot theft" (disabling your USB and firewire drivers helps some there, but if keep your network turned off you probably want USB).

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    52. Re:Autorun? by lgw · · Score: 1

      Guns are a very valuable thing for a thief to steal - perhaps the best find after cash or drugs. You're a glowing target to anything *but* smash-and-grab. You also have no defense against attackers who don't read English.

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    53. Re:Autorun? by calmofthestorm · · Score: 1

      True...until you start talking about targeted attacks. They don't want to break into your neighbor's house, they want to break into YOURS.

      And against that, for a sufficiently secret thing, I'm not sure I'd trust out of the box Debian or other standard linux distros, let alone some snake oil from Redmond.

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    54. Re:Autorun? by db32 · · Score: 1

      Death is 100% certain. Are you sure you are on Earth?

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    55. Re:Autorun? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Security is still a balance. 100% security = 0% functionality. You have to examine the risks to determine what you are willing to accept.

    56. Re:Autorun? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Computer security is the same way. You *can* cracl WPA(1/2) encryption, but if you neighbour has his connection open (or is using WEP), you are not likely to become a target.

      Sure, but if you've got a reasonable key (and aren't using TKIP) that will take a matter of years, perhaps decades.

    57. Re:Autorun? by supernova_hq · · Score: 1

      Yeah, someone might steal our super-secret plans for the next gigantic robotic space arm!

    58. Re:Autorun? by supernova_hq · · Score: 1

      I was assuming the common house-number/birthday/dictionary-word password that 99% of people use.

    59. Re:Autorun? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Reminds me of an old, childish joke -

      Q. What's the difference between Windows and a bucket of shit?

      A. The bucket

    60. Re:Autorun? by jonadab · · Score: 1

      Anyone who says "99% secure is 100% insecure" clearly does not understand even the most basic principles of security. I quote from Bruce Schneier:

      "Unbreakable", "absolute", "unforgeable", and "impenetrable" are all words that make no sense when discussing security. If you hear them, you can be sure you're listening to someone who doesn't understand security or is trying to hoodwink you. Good security systems are designed in anticipation of possible failure. -- _Beyond Fear_, pp.57-58.

      99% is just about the best security you're ever going to get, and with decent defense in depth strategies, plus detection and response plans, it's very manageable.

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    61. Re:Autorun? by Elektroschock · · Score: 1

      No, that is the fundamentalist view. It is enough to increase the actual likelihood of breaches.

    62. Re:Autorun? by TheTurtlesMoves · · Score: 1

      Out of the box Linux distros have terrible security. Well most I have used with one exception -Slackware. Seriously out of the box I don't think they are any better than windows. But the difference is that I can configure it to be reasonably secure. With some effort I can get pretty secure and with a bunch of inconvenience I can get secure.

      For high security --ie Top Secret military stuff. I wouldn't assume that I could or know what to do. But I assume that even with these windows boxes, we are not talking about that kind of level of security.

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    63. Re:Autorun? by TheTurtlesMoves · · Score: 1

      So are taxes. Thats what my daddy always told me. The only thing you can be certain of is Death and Taxes.

      He also said that if its got tits or wheels, it will end up costing you a lot of money.

      True wisdom I tell you.

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    64. Re:Autorun? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If I'm running OpenBSD fully patched with no open ports aside from SSH, I can be easily hacked by .01% of the people (likely a BSD or SSH developer who slipped in a back door).

      You forgot that OpenSSH (the SSH implementation in OpenBSD and any other major BSD/Linux solution out there) and OpenBSD itself are free software. This means that (unlike with proprietary software like Buck... err, Windows), no developer can "slip in" a backdoor, because the source code is available for anyone to check.

      Nothing is 100% secure, but at least free software can be honestly checked and its security level assessed.

    65. Re:Autorun? by db32 · · Score: 1

      Well, I only object to the taxes one because there always the remote possibility that you can avoid them.

      Now...what happens if it has tits AND wheels? Or only one tit or one wheel? There seems to be some research required to determine the universal validity of this one.

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    66. Re:Autorun? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What do you mean "gonna"?

    67. Re:Autorun? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "China is gonna whup their ass."

      What do you mean "gonna"?

    68. Re:Autorun? by sjs132 · · Score: 1

      "Computer security is the same way. You *can* cracl WPA(1/2) encryption, but if you neighbour has his connection open (or is using WEP), you are not likely to become a target"

      I'd have to disagree with this...

      Your average burgelar has a finite number of chances to pick a house and break into it before arousing suspicion. That is what makes an Alarm system good, they see the sign and the indicators your alarm (or owner) is armed and will move on to the neighbors.

      But a Cyber attacker has Infiniate opertunities to penitrate a number of systems at once... If your the average script kiddie and you've got a autohacker program that is just gonna go down the list of known vulnerabilities, chances are @ 85% you'll hit one of them that it opens. Then you walk in. Considering you can setup a bot net to attack from multiple points of presence, you don't have to worry about being detected right away. AND, if your on a network with a stardardized version of software, you just eliminated 85% of work getting into the NEXT computer because you'll log how you got into the last... Next time you'll be that much faster at it.

      We are talking the Speed of light here folks... By the time I get a notification of an attack and take measures to tighten a loose firewall, etc.., it may be too late. The smart attacker will leave something behind so that when it is activiated it calls home.

      My policy @ work if someone gets a trojan from surfing, etc... Wipe and reimage. (Scorched Earth) It is the only SAFE way I see to curb repeat infections, AND even that may not work with some of the ram resident attacks that survive a reboot. (hopefully not!)

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    69. Re:Autorun? by tez_h · · Score: 1

      Holding out for absolute perfection, I see. Let me know when you find it. I'm stuck here on planet Earth where nothing is 100% anything.

      Yeah. 100% true, that.

      -Tez

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    70. Re:Autorun? by Larryish · · Score: 1

      They should unplug the network cable and fill the USB ports with epoxy. That would prevent the other 15 percent from gaining access.

    71. Re:Autorun? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You accidentally a verb.

    72. Re:Autorun? by Zero__Kelvin · · Score: 1

      "No sir. The thieves will just break through your [W]indows too."

      Yes, but they will have to pick from one of the 15% that are still vulnerable now. Don't you get it !!!???

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    73. Re:Autorun? by Hamoohead · · Score: 1

      Arguably, an alarm system is more important in keeping people out than the lock on the door. If they kick down the door and a message goes off that lets them know that you know they are there and that the police are coming shortly, they usually won't stick around that long.

      Just long enough to take your LCD tv, XBox, PS3 and computer. Best to try to ensure that kicking in your door is hard enough they will give up before the cops get there. Trust me, alarms do nothing but annoy the neighbors. My shit is still gone.

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  2. I'll be truly impressed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    When the navy puts windows on their ships.

    1. Re:I'll be truly impressed by Amouth · · Score: 5, Funny
      --
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    2. Re:I'll be truly impressed by Me-The-Person · · Score: 1

      Whoever marked this as "troll" missed the joke! I get it. Mod +Funny

    3. Re:I'll be truly impressed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Silly fool. The Navy has always had windows on their ships. Originally they ported them from British designs and called them "port-holes". What was really impressive was when they put windows on boomers. Admiral Nelson designed the Seaview around its Herculite(tm) bow windows.

    4. Re:I'll be truly impressed by cromar · · Score: 1

      WHOOOOOOOOSH

      Windows... in ships...

      ba dum-bum.

    5. Re:I'll be truly impressed by b4dc0d3r · · Score: 1

      To be fair, I think that ship's computers were comparatively secure at that point...

    6. Re:I'll be truly impressed by vertinox · · Score: 1

      When the navy puts windows on their ships.

      Personally, I'd be more impressed when the navy puts windows on their submarines.

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    7. Re:I'll be truly impressed by Amouth · · Score: 2, Informative

      it wasn't a Whooooosh.. it was truth.. and if you read it you would understand

      --
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    8. Re:I'll be truly impressed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      http://gcn.com/Articles/1998/07/13/Software-glitches-leave-Navy-Smart-Ship-dead-in-the-water.aspx?p=1

      i know feeding the trolls - but he wanted to be impressed

      From the article: "The Yorktown lost control of its propulsion system because its computers were unable to divide by the number zero, the memo said."

      All I have to say is as a tax payer, I demand that all warships should be able to divide by zero...

    9. Re:I'll be truly impressed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think the joke is:

      When the Navy puts windows on their submarines.

    10. Re:I'll be truly impressed by cromar · · Score: 1

      WHOOOOOOOOSH

      the joke is that if you put windows in ships they would leak and fill the ship with water.

    11. Re:I'll be truly impressed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, that's their own fault.

      What kind of idiot puts windows on a submarine!?

    12. Re:I'll be truly impressed by hey! · · Score: 2, Funny

      i know feeding the trolls - but he wanted to be impressed

      You mean -- he wants a squad of royal marines marching behind a drummer boy to haul him out from behind his plough, slip the King's shilling into his pocket when he ain't looking, then send him off to see the world with His Majesty's Navy?

      Well, it takes all kinds I guess.

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    13. Re:I'll be truly impressed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      portholes xp?

    14. Re:I'll be truly impressed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But then the Navy start putting screen doors on submarines. Probably not a good idea.

    15. Re:I'll be truly impressed by khayman80 · · Score: 1

      Actually, the joke is that you've either never seen a real ship (which do have windows called "portholes") or that you're confusing the term s-h-i-p with the term s-u-b-m-a-r-i-n-e.

    16. Re:I'll be truly impressed by cromar · · Score: 1

      Yes, yes. A poorly executed joke is WOOOOOOSHing over peoples' heads. Obviously my efforts here have been wasted.

    17. Re:I'll be truly impressed by PNutts · · Score: 0

      When the navy puts windows on their submarines.

      I fixed that for 'ya.

    18. Re:I'll be truly impressed by billstewart · · Score: 1

      Yes, I also thought of the Aegis system crash of a decade or so ago before realizing that WHOOOOOOOOSH was the sound of water coming in a porthole that somebody forgot to close....

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    19. Re:I'll be truly impressed by colinrichardday · · Score: 1

      Hunley, of CSS Hunley fame http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CSS_Hunley

      Of course, without windows or a periscope (or sonar) it would be difficult to direct a sub.

    20. Re:I'll be truly impressed by Tubal-Cain · · Score: 1

      WHOOSH as in the sound makes when water pours in?

    21. Re:I'll be truly impressed by xlsior · · Score: 1

      When the navy puts windows on their ships.

      ...Windows for Warships, anyone?

      http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/02/26/windows_boxes_at_sea
      http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/02/26/149209

  3. I would just love to see... by mdm-adph · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...what they did to make it secure. Is the default wallpaper black with a big picture of a lock on it?

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    1. Re:I would just love to see... by houstonbofh · · Score: 4, Funny

      I am just waiting for it to show up on the torrent sites! Secure Windows, WooHoo!

    2. Re:I would just love to see... by Keruo · · Score: 4, Interesting
      My guess would be
      • disabled non-microsoft drivers
      • removed networking
      • removed usb stack
      • removed firewire stack
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    3. Re:I would just love to see... by ionix5891 · · Score: 1

      ha! mine is blue with white text

    4. Re:I would just love to see... by Thelasko · · Score: 1

      Is the default wallpaper black with a big picture of a lock on it?

      I'm betting it's blue and has a big picture of a devil on it.

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    5. Re:I would just love to see... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...what they did to make it secure. Is the default wallpaper black with a big picture of a lock on it?

      No, it simply refuses to boot....

    6. Re:I would just love to see... by suso · · Score: 1, Funny

      ...what they did to make it secure.

      They changed the EULA to the GPL.

    7. Re:I would just love to see... by MarkRose · · Score: 1

      Well in that case, I'll just bring a pen with me and the Air Force will be mine! Mwuahahah!!

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    8. Re:I would just love to see... by mdm-adph · · Score: 1

      In Military Speak:

      • Secure "Background Concealing Image" with Microsoft BitLocker(tm) Logo
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    9. Re:I would just love to see... by LoRdTAW · · Score: 1

      No they just made an XP theme and boot screen for OpenBSD.

    10. Re:I would just love to see... by mdm-adph · · Score: 1

      Now, in the Parent's defense, he wasn't being a troll, just very obvious. Someone feel free to fix that.

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    11. Re:I would just love to see... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      it just boots to a BSOD. Nothing new here, move along.

    12. Re:I would just love to see... by jo42 · · Score: 1

      and finally, "Format C:"

    13. Re:I would just love to see... by wastedlife · · Score: 1

      What is this gibberish, did you mean to type this and have an aneurysm?

      mke2fs -j /dev/sda1

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    14. Re:I would just love to see... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My guess would be

      • disabled non-microsoft drivers
      • removed networking
      • removed usb stack
      • removed firewire stack
      • removed keyboard and mouse drivers
    15. Re:I would just love to see... by StormReaver · · Score: 1

      > My guess would be

              * disabled non-microsoft drivers
              * removed networking
              * removed usb stack
              * removed firewire stack

      You forgot one:
              * turned off the power

    16. Re:I would just love to see... by lazyforker · · Score: 1

      My guess would be

      • disabled non-microsoft drivers
      • removed networking
      • removed usb stack
      • removed firewire stack

      You forgot:

      • Removed power cable
    17. Re:I would just love to see... by PhasmatisApparatus · · Score: 1

      Most likely there will be several copies of this available starting today. Much like "Windows 8" and "Star Wars 7" are available on torrent sites.

  4. ha by nicolas.kassis · · Score: 0, Troll

    yeah, so this prove that Microsoft makes no money fixing their product. They stop when it's good enough to sell I guess.

    1. Re:ha by PGOER · · Score: 1

      I think they should fix all problems with their software before selling it...wait, who are we talking about here? Sorry I forgot, it's Microsoft.

      I think Organizations shouldn't buy an inferior product...wait, who are we talking about here? Sorry I forgot it's the Air Force.

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    2. Re:ha by supernova_hq · · Score: 1

      I think they should fix all problems with their software before selling it

      You obviously don't know the first thing about software development.

    3. Re:ha by PGOER · · Score: 1

      You obviously don't know the first thing about irony.

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    4. Re:ha by supernova_hq · · Score: 1

      My point is that mentioning Microsoft in that first line is absolutely irrelevant. No company, no matter how big or complex, will EVER make a bug-free application, let alone an entire operating system.

    5. Re:ha by PGOER · · Score: 1

      Point taken, but being XP has been out for many years already, they have already issued another OS, they are issuing MS 7, in regardless that it is software and bugs will happen, the fact that a large corporation has trouble learning from it's mistakes is mind blowing. Irony was probably the wrong word, sarcasm world more closely describe my statement.

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  5. The Obvious by Kludge · · Score: 0, Troll

    how the government could use its massive purchasing power to get companies to produce more secure products.

    Stop purchasing Microsoft products. Duh.

    1. Re:The Obvious by tritonman · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Microsoft would probably have no problem giving it to the public, but nobody would want to use it. Everyone whines about security, then they get it and they whine about having to click "allow" or "accept" on popup boxes. You can't have your cake and eat it too.

    2. Re:The Obvious by jedidiah · · Score: 0, Troll

      Sure you can!

            Just buy a Mac...

            or run any other Unix.

      Once again, we come back to the same old problem. The fact that Microsoft
      is the computing equivalent of McDonalds does not automagically mean that
      they got their dominant position through actually making a good product.
      Infact, their long held dominant position (which predates any real version
      of Windows) pretty much gaurantees that what they make is crap because they
      never had to get used to making anything better.

      When you're fat and happy and have never run a day in your life it's hard to whip yourself into shape.

      Most people simply don't have the will and Microsoft is just a human aggregate.

      Yes, Microsoft is really just that much worse than everyone else.

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    3. Re:The Obvious by TheNinjaroach · · Score: 1

      Everyone whines about security, then they get it and they whine about having to click "allow" or "accept" on popup boxes.

      But that's not security, it's annoying and it reinforces the bad habit many people have of clicking"Yes / OK / Allow" on every dialog they see.

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    4. Re:The Obvious by DerekLyons · · Score: 1

      Yup. Whether it's computer security, physical security, communications security - the more secure you are, the greater a pain in the ass it is. Whether it's checkpoints or check boxes, there's a balance between security and usefulness, and where the balance point lies varies greatly.

    5. Re:The Obvious by couchslug · · Score: 1

      "Stop purchasing Microsoft products. Duh."

      The military of all customers is in the ideal position to do this.
      Back in The Day when all we had were green screen Unix terminals, life was simple and users didn't break the system.
      Conversion is merely of giving orders to people who obey them. The military should select more secure, Open alternatives which it can tweak and control, then order users to change.

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    6. Re:The Obvious by Desolation+Row · · Score: 1

      Bzzzt. Try again.
      Ref: The Cockoo's Egg.

  6. How to secure XP by snspdaarf · · Score: 4, Funny

    But what good is XP without drivers for keyboard, CD/DVD drives, USB ports, or NICs?

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    1. Re:How to secure XP by Burkin · · Score: 2, Funny

      I thought the best way to secure a Microsoft product was to never install and run it?

    2. Re:How to secure XP by merreborn · · Score: 4, Insightful

      But what good is XP without drivers for keyboard, CD/DVD drives, USB ports, or NICs?

      In all seriousness, I'd imagine usability is likely the reason this won't see a public release -- "really secure" and "really easy to use" aren't necessarily mutually exclusive, but you can bet they sacrificed the latter for the former in this case. I'd fully expect application compatibility to take a serious hit, and for many Windows features to be cut entirely.

      This product is probably unusable for the average consumer. I'm sure there are some enterprise contexts in which it'd make perfect sense, though.

      And of course, Microsoft doesn't want to dilute Windows Vista/7 sales with a new edition of XP (which they'd have to support for years) either.

    3. Re:How to secure XP by Quantos · · Score: 1

      This is an older model, but they have some pretty fancy new ones too.
      However I find it to be the easiest way to get Windows 100% secure.

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    4. Re:How to secure XP by Amouth · · Score: 1

      i remember at a PC shop i worked at we had legit copies of 98se come in with a virus infecting one of the files already on the disk.

      while our MS Sales rep was very quick to replace them we kept one and taped it above the time clock.. just as a reminder that no mater what we do we are all doomed

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  7. Most secure ever?! by mc1138 · · Score: 1

    So that means its sitting in a box in the corner under armed guard?

    1. Re:Most secure ever?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Didn't you see the Apple commercial where PC has his own security guard who keeps asking "cancel or allow"? Obviously the Air Force did.

  8. how to do it by r00b · · Score: 0

    "How are we to secure this shit." other guy sticks gum in ethernet port, "OS secured"

  9. dead right by xzvf · · Score: 1

    If they would have used an open source operating system the results would have already been released to the public. Government money spent on an operating system is wasted when the same money contributed to open source helps citizens and indirectly the world.

    1. Re:dead right by jellomizer · · Score: 2

      It is probably a case they have a lot of Windows Apps that need to be ran, and it is cheaper to get Microsoft to secure windows then to report their products to an other OS (Who really isn't that much more secure anyways) try to get resources to secure the Open Source OS to an acceptable levels, (Or find out how to configure OpenBSD to do what you want) then pay to report all your apps and retest and security check them all again.

      What the air force is doing is Replacing the Doors/Windows and Locks from the house. Vs. Rebuilding a new one just to get the New Doors/Windows and Locks.

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    2. Re:dead right by jeff4747 · · Score: 1

      An AF-only Windows only has to support AF-approved apps.

      That makes creating a 'more secure' Windows much easier, because you can eliminate a ton of 3rd party stuff. But the public will not accept such a restricted system.

    3. Re:dead right by jonbryce · · Score: 1

      Removing support for USB mass storage devices would make it more secure, but that wouldn't be much use for the general population.

      Security for the military means things like preventing people from copying classified information. Even Open BSD would score very poorly in that respect.

  10. This is a valid business strategy by n00btastic · · Score: 1

    Giving win7 away for free, and selling 'secure' copies of XP. What better way to fight international open source adoption?

  11. Next will be Windows 3.11 by alukin · · Score: 2, Funny

    Next most secure ever release for US army will be Windows 95, then Windows 3.11 and at the top of security development ever will be release of MS DOS 1.0.

    1. Re:Next will be Windows 3.11 by jbeaupre · · Score: 0, Redundant

      Nope, 3 rocks. Used for storing integer data from 0 to 1. Raid 5 configuration.

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  12. They secured it by by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    removing the keyboard.

  13. This must mean... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    IE has been replaced with Firefox? Or perhaps it has no network capabilities whatsoever.

  14. addendum by Kludge · · Score: 1

    Seriously though, if the government purchased software from companies other than Microsoft, we would have much better competition in the marketplace and better alternative software.

    1. Re:addendum by YrWrstNtmr · · Score: 1

      Seriously though, if the government purchased software from companies other than Microsoft

      From where? If other companies produced software that did as much as the stuff out of Redmond, they might.
      The combination/interoperability (on an enterprise level) of Windows|Exchange|Office|SharePoint|ActiveDirectory|SQLServer is pretty hard to beat. Even with all the MS holes.

      Show us another OS as the base where I can build all of that. Now convince me to rebuild the thousands of the tiny office level apps (Excel/Access/PowerPoint) that people actually use every day.
      Now blow some smoke up my ass and tell me it won't take years to move just one DoD component.

      For better or worse, the Fed and DoD bought a ticket on the MS train long before there was a real alternative. Switching now would be a decade long, very expensive journey, for not that much gain.

    2. Re:addendum by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Show us another OS as the base where I can build all of that.

      The smartest thing would probably be to license google's code, and hand it to the NSA for hardening ala SElinux. Then they could start replacing functionality with webapps, one app at a time. If they build it on a sufficiently Open platform they can avoid this problem in the future.

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  15. How they made it secure by DesertBlade · · Score: 0, Troll
    • Disable autorun
    • Only allow 3 programs to run, explorer, Antivirus and firewall
    • opening any program causes blue screen
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    1. Re:How they made it secure by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      • Cancel or allow
    2. Re:How they made it secure by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Le sigh.

      The "only three programs able to run!!!!one!ZOMG!!!" thing is for "Starter Edition", which has been around for years. Have you ever even SEEN it? I don't think so. It's basically a legitimate alternative to Piracy in low-income countries, and even then it's pretty rare. I still have no clue why people assume it's for netbooks.

      The BSOD joke stopped being funny when Windows 2000 was the OS to have (Unless you were subjected to ME. If so, I pity you). XP was solid. 2003 was solid. Vista is slow if you have bad video drivers, but other than that solid. 7 is, so far, solid.

    3. Re:How they made it secure by Burkin · · Score: 1

      The BSOD joke stopped being funny when Windows 2000 was the OS to have (Unless you were subjected to ME. If so, I pity you). XP was solid. 2003 was solid.

      Yes, once Windows 2000 came out there was never BSODs ever again. Oh wait...

    4. Re:How they made it secure by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And Linux never Kernel Panics.

      And Mac OS-X never Grey Screens.

      The point isn't that they don't happen. The point is they RARELY happen, and when they do, it's usually a HARDWARE FAULT.

    5. Re:How they made it secure by Bigbutt · · Score: 1

      Still getting blue screens on my home system once in a while. Infinite loop, 0x000000ea. XP Pro with ATI card (the ATI driver is the culprit but it's still a blue screen :) ).

      [John]

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  16. Possible change? by haxxorboi · · Score: 0, Redundant

    So they disabled Autorun and made UAC even more annoying? I love this strategy!

  17. If... by slashkitty · · Score: 2, Interesting

    If they can make it more secure, why don't they offer everyone the secure version?

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    1. Re:If... by wjousts · · Score: 1

      Because then it'd become a huge target for hackers? Security through obscurity.

    2. Re:If... by Red+Alastor · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Because it's probably not the most compatible Windows and might lack some features.

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    3. Re:If... by shutdown+-p+now · · Score: 1

      If they can make it more secure, why don't they offer everyone the secure version?

      They did - it was called Vista - but users complained that it is annoying to have to click "Allow" every time a trojan asks to get installed, so it didn't quite work out.

    4. Re:If... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because of convenience. Any government site knows how to secure windows, and it's an automated process. But the it departments of those do not do it simply because whoever is in charge of said site will complain until their ears fall of if he can't run his application exactly as he does at home, on his personal computer. They will get an earful if the commander can't upload his pictures from his camera, or when he tries to install some new version of photoshop and it won't. So instead, they leave holes open. If the os comes from the factory already hardened, but won't let them change it, then the issue is solved, especially if the CTO of the Air Force decrees that everyone must use this new OS.

    5. Re:If... by hrimhari · · Score: 1

      Because there was no huge money figure being waved under Mr. Balmer's nose.

      It probably costs way more money to patch their swiss cheese than they'd get back from the possible increase in the market share or sales.

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    6. Re:If... by ensiferius · · Score: 0

      Hey buddy, are you trying to take the food out of my kids' mouths?

      Buggy software and stupid users is what keeps most windoze administrators employed.

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    7. Re:If... by timeOday · · Score: 1

      Apparently you've never worked in a secure computing environment. It's a nightmare of hassle and low productivity. Remember, information security means slowing the flow of information and intentionally making stuff not work. As much as possible, you try to only break things selectively, targeting the bad users and sparing the good users, but you can only expect so much specificity.

    8. Re:If... by geekoid · · Score: 1

      To make it highly secure, thy may have removed features most users need, possible cusomized some stacks, Removed wireless functionality, that sort of thing.

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  18. It's not a new version, it's just a configuration. by YesIAmAScript · · Score: 5, Informative

    'The Air Force, on the verge of renegotiating its desktop-software contract with Microsoft, met with Ballmer and asked the company to deliver a secure configuration of Windows XP out of the box. That way, Air Force administrators wouldnâ(TM)t have to spend time re-configuring, and the department would have uniform software across the board, making it easier to control and maintain patches.'

    So if you'd like to do it yourself, you can secure your XP too.

    http://nvd.nist.gov/fdcc/fdcc_faq.cfm

    I'm not sure super secure is the right word for this version of XP though, given that there are a lot of security features it is missing that Vista, Windows 7 and some other OSes have.

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  19. it's amazing that it was a struggle by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They shouldn't have had to been persuaded in the first place. MS should provide better defaults from the start.

    Is the default security configuration relaxed in order to save tech support costs?

    Also they should have used the secure guidelines required by the goevernment anyways - but that would assume that overpaid contractors would actually patch systems and the air force commands would enforce policy ;)

    Purchasing power should be used for making a better product, not providing a custom install.

  20. MS is probably holding the air force hostage by t0qer · · Score: 5, Interesting

    So I have this on good authority from someone who works there... A few years back the VA decided to start migrating from IIS to apache. At the same time they wanted to migrate file servers as well. When MS caught wind of this, they told the powers that be at the VA, "You drop us, and we'll audit you." Part of the contract MS holds with the VA is they're allowed to perform a license audit any time they want. The VA did its own internal investigation and figured out pretty quickly that MS had them, "Over the barrel" so to speak... I don't think the Air Force really wants to use MS stuff, but if they're in a similar situation as the VA, this doesn't bode well for them. I hope the Obama administration catches wind of this and puts a stop to this practice. It isn't right that my tax dollars are being forced into MS's pockets. I think in these rough economic times our government needs to really start exploring more OSS/free solutions out there.

    1. Re:MS is probably holding the air force hostage by Pollardito · · Score: 1

      what was the threat, the cost of the audit or what the audit might find? it seems like if it's the latter than it's their own fault.

    2. Re:MS is probably holding the air force hostage by Mr+44 · · Score: 1

      I think in these rough economic times our government needs to really start exploring more OSS/free solutions out there.

      Great point - think how good for the economy it would be if the gov't stopped buying commercial software altogether! Thousands of developers/QA/etc would soon find themselves out of jobs, and able to contribute to open source projects all day long while collecting unemployment!

    3. Re:MS is probably holding the air force hostage by gad_zuki! · · Score: 1

      Err, why arent they up on the licensing to begin with? If Obama does anything he should force them to audit and catch up so they can see the real cost of software. MS isnt necessarily the bad guy here. Afterall, the audit revealed problems. Fix your licenses then migrate away. Dont keep abusing your volume keys and putting yourself under MS's gun. This is the VA's incompetent IT staff's doing. Perhaps Obama should just fire them all and start fresh.

    4. Re:MS is probably holding the air force hostage by Archwyrm · · Score: 2, Insightful

      As a former sysadmin for an Army brigade, I can tell you that we would have failed an audit horribly as well, considering we simply installed Windows or Office or whatever on any machine whenever we needed to. In fact, probably the only machines that we could guarantee had licensed software, were the ones that came pre-installed with it from Dell.

      Then, IIRC, round about mid '03 the Army made a deal with MS where they forked over ~$400 million for unlimited installations of a long list of MS software on Army computers for a number of years. This was no doubt partly to cover the widespread unlicensed copies.

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    5. Re:MS is probably holding the air force hostage by dbIII · · Score: 1
      Licence management is often either non-existent in MS Windows shops simple because stuff will run whether it has a valid licence or not. Even where there has been an attempt to keep track of licences you will see that there are often cases where expediency has meant that someone has just got hold of install media to do a quick install of something without anyone else knowing - people assume the software is free. People also get very offended when you lock up the install media in that sort of environment. Then you get the many weird and varied licences that might have expired but have no way of knowing without the decent records many places lack. I once worked as a contractor in a place with over a hundred MS Windows machines and not a single valid licence since they hadn't renewed after three years - and people were still installing stuff because that wasn't clear until I found the expired licences.

      An audit would catch a lot of large places. Once you have enough MS machines that it is worth investigating anything other than OEM licences licencing gets complicated enough that many people ignore it beyond the steps required to get the media.

    6. Re:MS is probably holding the air force hostage by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Hostages have been rescued !"

    7. Re:MS is probably holding the air force hostage by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "On good authority" of who? A liar? The US Government has a license that covers all of Microsoft's products and it is not required to count seats. Are you so puckered up about the "quality" of your "free" software that you have to resort to lying about commercial vendors? How lame!

  21. I bet the british wished they had this... by n00btastic · · Score: 0

    I bet the British wish they had this option before they installed XP on their submarines ;)

    1. Re:I bet the british wished they had this... by Locutus · · Score: 2, Insightful

      let's see, Windows on hospital equipment recently got Conficker because Microsoft no longer provided security patches for Windows 2000 and NT. I'm now wondering how long the British Navy thinks these subs will last and how they'll deal with unpatched Microsoft operating systems running the show when Microsoft stops feeding them patches?

      Hey USAF! If you can't see the source code and see the patches for later versions, you can't have any hope of securing the system in the long run. You're only hope for security dooms you to tearing it all out and replacing it. And you know that is not going to happen and doesn't happen. Good luck with that "Super-Secure XP".

      LoB

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    2. Re:I bet the british wished they had this... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      the usaf does have a vista build, I've seen it on a few laptops that were sent in for fixing, after having their hard drives corrupted by some freak accident or stupidity...

      they are also are offering office 2007.... fwiw

    3. Re:I bet the british wished they had this... by anjilslaire · · Score: 4, Informative

      let's see, Windows on hospital equipment recently got Conficker because Microsoft no longer provided security patches for Windows 2000 and NT.

      Uh, no. The MS08-067 patch that addresses conficker was released for Windows 2000 at the same time as all the other OSes, with the exception of NT. http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/Bulletin/MS08-067.mspx

    4. Re:I bet the british wished they had this... by j79zlr · · Score: 4, Informative

      let's see, Windows on hospital equipment recently got Conficker because Microsoft no longer provided security patches for Windows 2000 and NT.

      Extended support for Windows 2000 doesn't end unitl July of 2010. The patch that fixes the exploit on Win2k is here if interested.

      As for NT, the long term support ended over 5 years ago.

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    5. Re:I bet the british wished they had this... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Locutus wrote in comment 27791085:

      Windows on hospital equipment recently got Conficker because Microsoft no longer provided security patches for Windows 2000 and NT.

      I saw that story's headline, but didn't have time to RTFA. However, it is my understanding that Windows 2000 Server and Windows 2000 Professional are still in their extended support phase, which means they do get security patches. (See #3 in Microsoft's lifecycle policy FAQ.

      Am I wrong?

    6. Re:I bet the british wished they had this... by geekoid · · Score: 1

      the military can see the source code.
      It's part of the contract.

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  22. how is this diffrent... by iccaros · · Score: 2, Insightful

    so the Air force paid MS to "lock down windows" probably to the STIG.. Instead of doing what DODIIS does and create a Install disk to be installed and tested against, so if you do have to rebuild its there... I thought that MS came up with an affordable PL3 or PL4 System, we have been working with MS for a PL3 system, but it would cost almost a million more than a comparable Trusted Solaris or SELinux solution. and be hell to administer

  23. Error in translation by gmuslera · · Score: 0

    One reporter was sure about hearing that US Air Force was starting to use XP Windows, and another wasnt so sure about the P there.

  24. AF Standard Desktop Configuration by PapaSmurph · · Score: 5, Interesting

    While this was an interesting article, the XP and the Vista versions used by the USAF are the same ones used by the general public. The only differences are the security setting, the firewall configuration, and the user configuration. No one is an admin unless they need to be, and no normal day-to-day work is done in admin mode (same thing you do in Linux, no doubt).

    I didn't know this article was going to be published, but when I found it, I was not surprised by the comments. I've been working on this program for more than 2 years. Users hate it. Developers loathe it. Network security staff loves it.

    Nothing can make Windows (or any other OS) completely secure if it's connected to a network. This is as close as the federal government as ever come.

    1. Re:AF Standard Desktop Configuration by PhxBlue · · Score: 1

      I didn't know this article was going to be published, but when I found it, I was not surprised by the comments. I've been working on this program for more than 2 years. Users hate it. Developers loathe it. Network security staff loves it.

      Which means the Air Force probably got it right.

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    2. Re:AF Standard Desktop Configuration by rs232 · · Score: 1

      I didn't know this article was going to be published, but when I found it, I was not surprised by the comments. I've been working on this program for more than 2 years. Users hate it. Developers loathe it. Network security staff loves it.

      How much is this program going to cost as compared to the $100 million the Air Force is saving in maintenance costs?

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    3. Re:AF Standard Desktop Configuration by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm going to bet the XP baseline run at the CIA is more secure.

      You still have the network connectivity issue but it's also about defense in depth.

  25. diversity is fantastic protection by wizardforce · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The airforce and the military in general would do well not to create a monoculture; especially not one based on an arguably insecure operating system that is nearing its end of life. Despite the existence of *nix alternatives that are of comparable ease of use and generally superior security and customization, the military continues to insist that using an old operating system full of flaws and actively exploited by the vast majority of malware is suitable for government use. There is something very wrong here.

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    1. Re:diversity is fantastic protection by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      oh yes, we definitely don't want a monoculture. Please make sure the poor 19 year old airman who barely knows how to install a driver in XP now must know how to do so on a Ubuntu box, a Macintosh, XP, Vista and for the hell of it, a couple Win 3.1 boxes 'just in case'. And pity the poor sergeant who is given a Powerpoint presentation by the general and has to figure out how to make it work across 4 different versions of Office, OpenOffice, etc.
      But at least we'll know when we get hacked that only part our useless network will get taken out by the bad guys.

      Networks must be useful first... or else why bother defending them?

    2. Re:diversity is fantastic protection by cyber-vandal · · Score: 1

      Until Linux or another suitable OS can flawlessly run Win32 apps and drivers the cost of migration will be too prohibitive for most organisations that depend on Win32-only applications.

    3. Re:diversity is fantastic protection by PitaBred · · Score: 1

      So leave the endpoints as Windows. Make the servers a mix. You don't have a "poor 19 year old airman" doing ALL the admin tasks.

    4. Re:diversity is fantastic protection by wizardforce · · Score: 1

      Thank you for pointing out a big chunk of the problem. The same people who have trouble with anything other than XP are going to be the same people who are responsible for infecting military computers with conficker and any number of other malware.

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    5. Re:diversity is fantastic protection by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually a system actively exploited by the vast majority of malware has a better chance to be a more secure OS than a system which there's no interest in attacking.

  26. A subtle point by Dystopian+Rebel · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "Having the most secure Windows ever" does not equate to having secure Windows.

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    1. Re:A subtle point by houstonbofh · · Score: 4, Funny

      I guess the irony of having to go to a "dirty pirate site" to get "the most secure windows ever" is lost on you. To get security, you have to steal it? (Or use %uname)

    2. Re:A subtle point by roc97007 · · Score: 1

      What we need is a motorcycle analogy!

      Back in the 1980's, a common slogan in Harley-Davidson advertisements was "The best handling bike we've ever made". Now, the FXR (1982 to around 1990, I think) was a radical change in frame design, and objectively, it did handle pretty well -- arguably better than Harleys made before and after, (my opinion) with more neutral steering and lower center of gravity that many superbikes available during that time. But at the time, it seemed like damning with faint praise.

      If a sentence translates easily to "Our best attempt at something we're not good at", one's objective expectations can't be very high.

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    3. Re:A subtle point by couchslug · · Score: 1

      ""Having the most secure Windows ever" does not equate to having secure Windows."

      "Our Nomex gasoline-soaked jock strap is much safer than our old cotton gasoline-soaked jock straps for running through camp fires!"

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  27. Really? by twmcneil · · Score: 1
    From TFA:

    "Turns out when you configure things properly and don't touch them, they actually work pretty well," Gilligan said.

    No shit Sherlock!

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    1. Re:Really? by The+End+Of+Days · · Score: 1

      But Slashdot wisdom has taught me that it's impossible to secure Windows. I suspect the entire article is bullshit. A hundred thousand screaming free software zealots and apple lovers can't be wrong.

  28. Reformat, reinstall by ndansmith · · Score: 1

    In other cases, systems that were configured securely became vulnerable later (for instance, when a system crashed and original software was re-installed without patches that had been on the system before the crash).

    The great windows tradition of "reformat, reinstall" at work. I wonder how long until this secure XP starts suffering the same fate because users find it too restrictive to do what they need.

  29. Obviously this can't work by Gallomimia · · Score: 1

    First Let me just say that all microsoft had to do to provide the airforce with a secure version of XP was to remove all of their built in backdoors and security holes introduced in order to fuel the security industry. Thanks for making millions of jobs for america and making computer users foot the bill!

    Second, obviously they can never release this Secure Microsoft program to the public. (That's such an oxymoron I had to type it slowly) Every major public release of every operating system humanity has ever come up with has been hacked, rooted, and otherwise had its security demolished.

    Releasing this system to the public will merely create a group of people bent on cracking it and then the air force won't have a secure version anymore. Pardon me for saying it, but I personally wouldn't want the air force telling me I owe them money. Brass knuckles or a baseball bat are bad enough.

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    1. Re:Obviously this can't work by secPM_MS · · Score: 4, Informative
      I am a security program manager at Microsoft. The article gets much of it wrong. The Air Force wanted the machines preconfigured to a secure configuration so that they did not have to do this configuration. Such configurations are not distributed to the general public because of the impact on generalized consumer useability. Microsoft always publishes a security guide which provides guidance on configuring systems for different threat environments. For example in the Windows Vista Security Guide, Chapter 5 is titled "Specialized Security - Limited Functionality". Such security guides exist for NT on.

      Users are free to configure their systems for higher security. Note that doing so may limit functionality you are used to. For example, you can configure your system so that all users run as normal users (no administrative functionality). Running users as normal users is part of all security guidance. Not all XP software will run if you do this. You can set IE to high security mode by default and disable Flash, etc. Doing so breaks much of the web but is more secure. You can get security, but it will impact your user experience.

      It is easier to secure Vista and 2K8 server systems.

    2. Re:Obviously this can't work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Out of curiosity, are the settings that the Air Force requested the same as the FDCC settings that are at NIST?

    3. Re:Obviously this can't work by wastedlife · · Score: 1

      This makes a lot more sense than the article. Is this the "hisecws" security policy applied by default, or a custom one for the Air Force? Will Microsoft distribute the .inf to any customers, or is it limited to them?

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    4. Re:Obviously this can't work by secPM_MS · · Score: 1

      I don't know. I am not involved with this. Clearly, the Air Force, or other customer can define what security policy they want to apply and have their systems configured to it.

    5. Re:Obviously this can't work by YrWrstNtmr · · Score: 1

      The FDCC configuration grew out of the Air Force's SDC configuration (warning, MS Word doc link).

    6. Re:Obviously this can't work by kismet666 · · Score: 1

      IMHO, you've oversimplified things. NSA, DISA, and NIST were all publishing security guidance when I helped publish Microsoft's Windows 2000 Server Security Guide in late 2002. We started working with those 3 agencies and CIS to try to get all of our guidance more closely aligned. We published the Microsoft guides for XP & 2003 in the spring of 2003. Everyone learned a great deal from one another, there are some brilliant people in NIST CSD, the NSA Blue Team, and DISA FSO. We kept meeting to figure out how to improve all of our guidance and to pursuade the Windows team to change the defaults in XP SP2 & Vista. Around 2004 the USAF & their MCS team approached us, including NSA, DISA, & NIST, to help them jumpstart their new program for securing XP. That grew into the SDC, Kenny Heitkamp and Mr. Gilligan pursuaded the OMB to start the FDCC, which used the collective knowledge of Microsoft, USAF, NIST, DISA, and the NSA to work out the details of the FDCC. At this point, the FDCC is consistent with Microsoft's guidance, but it covers more settings. The USAF's SDC is a bit more restrictive than the FDCC and it covers additional applications. DISA's checklists for XP & Vista are also a bit more restrictive than the FDCC.

    7. Re:Obviously this can't work by kismet666 · · Score: 1

      It has nothing to do with hisecws.inf. That security template was finally removed in Vista because it caused too much customer pain. Microsoft's guidance is available here: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc677002.aspx. The FDCC is here: http://fdcc.nist.gov/

    8. Re:Obviously this can't work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      For example, you can configure your system so that all users run as normal users (no administrative functionality).

      Only this example is already fundamentally wrong of the whole Windows system if you compare it to any *nix machine but you Microsoft guys keep trying to believe you did your user management right and some obscure registry settings will make the systems secure, unbelievable..

      Just my 2 cents..

      GrTZ Dwaalspoor98

    9. Re:Obviously this can't work by node159 · · Score: 1

      You can set IE to high security mode by default and disable Flash, etc. Doing so breaks much of the web but is more secure.

      And for some reason breaks local networking as well, nice one MS.

      That as side, the fact that Vista still shipped with admin as user configuration baffles me. I'm a software developer and have been running XP with LUA (limited user accounts) for years now and am baffled by the complete lack of commitment by Microsoft. The decision to drop LUA as default is baffling, as well as the requirement of Visual Studios to require admin rights (http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/vstudio/aa972193.aspx).

      The tools provided to resolve issues with existing software are mediocre at best and considering MS commitment to backwards compatibility, significantly under promoted. The concept of securing Windows without addressing everything running as admin issue (which has now changed to, 'check box to run as admin') is just a little insane.

      All I can say it, provide tool to developers and user that highlight programs that violate the most basic security principle and provide answers for potential work a rounds, outing the offenders is the only way to get this resloved.

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    10. Re:Obviously this can't work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, you might call it secure, but was undoubtedly reworked by foreign nationals to make it seem so. The World Bank found out their 'secure system' was not so secure by any means.

  30. Security measure by johnw · · Score: 1

    Don't tell me! They removed the floppy disk drive - yes?

  31. Re:It's not a new version, it's just a configurati by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I wonder if instead they slipped-in Vista and called it XP "configured" securely.

  32. You too can have your own "Super-Secure" XP setup by jdb2 · · Score: 5, Funny

    It's called running XP in VMware under Linux.

    ( Also, is it just me or does the "XP" after "Super-Secure" look like a smiley representing someone laughing their guts out? )

    jdb2

  33. bahahahahaha!! by gmarsh · · Score: 0

    *gasp*

    ahahahahahaaa!! ...

    *sigh*

  34. Rename it... by tsnorquist · · Score: 1

    How about "Microsoft Cockpits - USAF Edition". When things go to hell, the HDD pulls the handle on the ejection seat.

    1. Re:Rename it... by The+End+Of+Days · · Score: 1

      you had me at soft cock.

  35. This all sounds familiar... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This all sounds strangely familiar. Hasn't Microsoft claimed with each OS or Service Pack release that it's "the most secure Windows OS ever"?? (usually to end up putting out patches a few days later)

  36. heres a demo by FudRucker · · Score: 1, Informative
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  37. Re:If..., starts by not being an admin by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It wouldn't matter. Most users blindly run with admin privileges or have a critical application that requires it.

  38. Cat out of the bag...? by Joce640k · · Score: 1

    Next up, the Army and Navy. After that, government agencies ... finally, big businesses and the public.

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    1. Re:Cat out of the bag...? by gadget+junkie · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Next up, the Army and Navy. After that, government agencies ... finally, big businesses and the public.

      Yes, so we will be able to buy XP instead of the best and most secure OS, Vista!!!!!
      I think that this is the best own goal ever done by MS in its long life, on two counts. first, they are saying that XP is arguably more secure than vista. second, they are saying that while all organizations are created equals, some are more equal than others. Why is it that i cannot buy XP anymore, while the Air force can?
      So, I do not think that "big business and the public" will ever be able to buy that. Never. not ever. BUT, that does not mean that this will not have repercussions.Big business will use it as a lever to delay, yet again, the adoption of Vista/win7, by browbeating MS into admitting that they will support XP longer than publicly stated ( I do not think that they will leave the Air force high and dry in four years, do you?), and demanding equal treatment. moreover, I do not think it possible that this XP will not percolate in the public domain.
      One more unintended consequence: any attempt into selling Vista/win 7 by implying that Xp is less secure is meaningless now: "go tell the blue boys, then come back!"

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    2. Re:Cat out of the bag...? by dave562 · · Score: 2, Informative

      Where do you get that they are saying XP is more secure than Vista? Another angle to consider is the one that the Air Force has been running XP for a long time and all of their applications are coded to work with XP. Microsoft took the smart route and improved what the Air Force already had instead of forcing them into an upgrade. Vista very well may be more secure than XP, and Windows 7 might be more secure than both of them.

      For as long as I've been using computers, I've hated the forced upgrade cycle that Microsoft imposes on their customers. It would be nice if they would just stick to a single OS and improve it. For a lot of people, XP is good enough. It gets the job done and there isn't any reason to upgrade. If NT weren't such an insecure piece of turd, it could serve the needs of most businesses out there (just like Linux + Samba and OpenLDAP can). Having said that, I understand that a single OS isn't exactly a viable business model, unless you force people into support contracts. Given that Microsoft and Apple both charge for OS updates, I don't think that business model is going away any time soon.

    3. Re:Cat out of the bag...? by Joce640k · · Score: 1

      Really big business can play the "we're moving to Linux because it's more secure" trump card.

      I think manufacturers of stuff like medical equipment should definitely have it, too.

      I don't know how far down the pecking order it could go. I assume they did something so that ordinary people won't want it (no DirectX or something...).

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    4. Re:Cat out of the bag...? by networkBoy · · Score: 1

      What if they offered "enhancement packs" for a price?

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    5. Re:Cat out of the bag...? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Will companies or individuals sue Microsoft for selling them the old, porous XP, instead of what they have already developed and were selling what was known to be more secure? (Even if not that great.) It sure feels like a class action lawsuit will be contemplated.

      As to why they owe the gov't...remember, the DOJ kicked the judge who found MS guilty of abuse of monopoly off the case, and gave MS a punishment of, er, ah, what punishment did Microsoft get? That was worth a ton of cash, not merely in fines and more lawsuits, but in being able to continue to do business as their usual.

  39. Re:It's not a new version, it's just a configurati by Z_A_Commando · · Score: 1

    Microsoft has a slew of people who are more than happy to configure any of their software for you, for a price of course. They're called Microsoft Consulting Services (MCS). To your point, the Air Force asked Microsoft to do the configuration prior to sending them the software. Thus you have tons of features that are disabled by default on install. It's not that it's a different version of XP, it's just a reconfigured version.

    What I find questionable is the claim in the article that says to the effect "this is the way it should be" with software releases. In other words, all software should come with maximum security enabled (i.e. all or most features disabled by default) and users can pick and choose what they want to turn on. That's fine for corporations where people are paid to configure systems. However, Joe Consumer who doesn't know anything about enabling components or disabling services will find such a system completely unusable. It no longer will "Just Work".

    As far as the Air Force is concerned, getting to a consistent image across their systems should have been the goal, regardless of whether they use Microsoft to "secure" XP. It can be done without a Microsoft tech's help, as you point out. Of course, both of those are much easier said than done. Just my 2 cents

  40. OpenBSD with a WinXP theme? by daveewart · · Score: 0, Redundant

    Perhaps it's really OpenBSD, but just has a WinXP theme?!?

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    1. Re:OpenBSD with a WinXP theme? by Culture20 · · Score: 1

      And pre-pending wine to every command line?

  41. Erm, what?? by iperkins · · Score: 1

    Isn't super secure and XP an oxymoron??

  42. Win7 RC1 is out and the AF just secured XP? by schwit1 · · Score: 1

    Maybe they should have been working with MS for the past year testing and securing a Windows7 desktop config.

    1. Re:Win7 RC1 is out and the AF just secured XP? by Hadlock · · Score: 1

      NASA doesn't use bleeding edge technology, but you want our national defense system(s) to be running on it? Someone promote this man to a government military buying agent!

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    2. Re:Win7 RC1 is out and the AF just secured XP? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There old hardware can't take it and stuff for the SGC / stargate can't run windows as it is not fully x86 / x86-64 and a lot of the add on hardware has very little hope to gain a windows diver. They use a form linux with a lot in house code add to it.

    3. Re:Win7 RC1 is out and the AF just secured XP? by schwit1 · · Score: 1
      When did Vista R2 become bleeding edge technology? The issue is security ... Win7 is better on every measurable level of that criteria.

      Besides, comparing NASA systems to AF desktops is an apples to rocks comparison. A commercial OS is not used to operate combat systems ... unless you're the Navy.

    4. Re:Win7 RC1 is out and the AF just secured XP? by kismet666 · · Score: 1

      What makes you think they aren't looking at Win7 already? Why do you assume that the people who figured out the configurations for XP and Vista can't work on Win7 while the people in operations deploy and maintain the settings on the hundreds of thousands of existing machines?

  43. Another waste of taxpayer money by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I am not a windows admin (thank goodness), but I remember the windows CD comes with tools to write your own install scripts. The 'security features' in this article sound like the results of an install script. Certainly Microsoft didn't make a custom build of XP that they are going to maintain, patch, etc.

    So my question is how much did the air force pay microsoft to write them a custom install script? I'm not surprised at all that Balmer jumped at the chance.. it's the sales deal every company dreams of. Sell the same product but charge more money.

  44. Is this ... by SlashDev · · Score: 1

    .. MS's admission that an insecure OS version was purposefully released to the public?

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  45. Re:It's not a new version, it's just a configurati by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    You are about to secure Windows

    Yes No

  46. Wait a frakkin' minute... by PNutts · · Score: 0

    Does the Air Force guy on the far right look like Chief Tyrol? I would expect Baltar, but if they're going to send a skin job a Six is preferrable. Or two Eights.

  47. oh yeah! by hesaigo999ca · · Score: 1

    OK, as if, anyone smell BS here, like I do?
    Here is a link to a story of how the Air Force wanted to create a wrold botnet to control and send cyber attacks should they need them for global scale cyber warfare.
    http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/05/15/1654235

    My guess is, it was easier to get M$ to bend and rewrite certain things that would allow the Air Force to backdoor into systems, and create a buzz, saying that we now have the best and most secure version of XP EVER!, Because we bought it so much, now it is cheap, and it can be yours for the
    4 small payments of.....!!!

    If i were to buy into the propaganda, I would say, it would be much cheaper for them to install one PC properly, and close the image a bazillion times as needed and just pay a M$ license fee to do this, why rewrite the app to be more secure, it already is once the updates are all installed anyways...and your disk image would contain also all the rest of the updates for all the other apps your company would use.....

    I smell BS, lots of it!

    1. Re:oh yeah! by hesaigo999ca · · Score: 1

      sorry typos....
      > and close the image ...should read
      > clone the image

  48. Re:It's not a new version, it's just a configurati by evilkasper · · Score: 1

    Actually we were pushing a "secure" version of XP before I got out of the AF in 2006. Basically it was just locked down, if you didn't have to have it to do your job that feature/program was disabled by the security settings. I believe the image we pushed was made by the NOSC at the time. It wasn't anything you couldn't do on your own to your home computer.

  49. Sane defaults by Enderandrew · · Score: 1

    Can anyone explain why a company with the manpower and wealth of Microsoft can't just ship XP with sane security defaults out of the box for everyone else?

    This is the 21st century, right?

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    1. Re:Sane defaults by maxume · · Score: 1

      SP2 did ship with sane security defaults for normal people. Defaulting to limited user rights would have been nice, but look how poorly that went with Vista, and imagine 5 years less of 3rd party Windows software being fixed to work correctly in that environment.

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    2. Re:Sane defaults by wastedlife · · Score: 1

      Much of the problem is backwards compatibility. I recall some or all of the Win2000 source code was leaked a few years ago, and I remember the general consensus of the people that reviewed it was that the most of the bad bits come from the "nasty hacks" to get XXXXXX application working. I think Office was one of the big problems.

      Another problem is usability, many things are not locked down because they would be unusable if they weren't. Have you ever seen the "Internet Explore Enhanced Security" mode that Server 2003 defaults to? It has problems searching Google! This is because they disable nearly all scripting and plugins.

      Finally, and probably the biggest reason, is that security was not as much of a concern to people in the early 2000s when 2000 and XP were released. Microsoft just wanted to get things out as fast as possible to make more money. Now, people are worried about security, so they tried to start nearly from scratch with Vista(codenamed Longhorn at the time, I believe) to be secure and stable. It was taking too long, so they scratched it and started over from the 2003 kernel. Vista seems like it might actually be quite a bit more secure than XP, but they did a terrible job covering backwards compatibility. Instead of just cutting out all backwards compatibility, they did a hack job of it, I mean just look at all the fucking recursive junction points in the system drive(Why the fuck does robocopy back these up by default???). The fix for this in Win7? They put XP in a fucking virtual machine, but only for Professional, Enterprise and Ultimate. I haven't looked, but does anyone know if Win7 is loaded to the gills with recursive junction points?

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    3. Re:Sane defaults by kokojie · · Score: 1

      Average people do not want more security if that means sacrificing usability. The first thing I do when using a new Vista machine is disable UAC.

  50. Most secure version of Windows XP ever... by dwiget001 · · Score: 1

    that's not really saying much.

  51. 85 percent of attacks were blocked by hAckz0r · · Score: 4, Insightful

    85 percent of attacks were blocked after the configuration was installed.

    Now lets rephrase that; 15% of the attacks were still successful after a complete lock-down configuration was applied and lots of manpower went into burning custom installation disks and procedures. Is it just me or does anyone else see a problem with this?

    1. Re:85 percent of attacks were blocked by ion.simon.c · · Score: 1

      I'd have to know what percentage of the attacks were still successful on a stock, fully-patched system to know whether or not I have a problem with this.

    2. Re:85 percent of attacks were blocked by hAckz0r · · Score: 1

      This is way beyond a "stock" system, and it is fully patched by the experts from the one company that knows the most about how to protect it. But it still completely fails to protect the host against 15% of the *known attacks* in the wild? The operant word here is "known" attacks. Just do the mathematics with regards to the number of systems employed by this one particular customer. Then add in all the systems that are NOT locked down this tightly in the rest of the world. Despite all the glory that they are claiming in this news story, this is a very clear failure to protect these crucial systems and not something that I would ever associate myself with boasting about.

    3. Re:85 percent of attacks were blocked by ion.simon.c · · Score: 2, Interesting

      This is way beyond a "stock" system...

      Okay... I'd still like to see the stats for a fully patched stock system before I say "Oh, this isn't worth the effort."

      But it still completely fails to protect the host against 15% of the *known attacks* in the wild?

      Do you have a comprehensive list of those attacks? I know that I don't.
      How many of those attacks are software keyloggers? There's not a whole hell of a lot that you can do to protect against that.
      How many of them are hardware keyloggers?
      USB or FireWire DMA memory access sploits?

      We need details before we can pass judgement. Until we have these details, this "report" is just some MS PR flack flapping his gums.

    4. Re:85 percent of attacks were blocked by skogs · · Score: 1

      Exactly.

      I am air force IT. We've been rolling out "SDC" or Standard Desktop Configuration for years now. Now there is SDC II -- The Vista SDC. We also have SSC -- Standard Server Configuration.
      These really aren't much more than supported nLite windows load discs.
      The SDC has:
      -Most of the drivers we need including SATA, mobo drivers, network drivers, etc
      -Obvious fixes to password complexity that pretty much anybody can hardwire after the fact, but ours is pre-set
      -Altered admin account name, which again anybody can do after the fact but only ours is pre-loaded
      -All the current patches, usually only 5-20 updates need to be applied after installation, and those are all controlled via domain controllers and login
      -Biggest advantage really is application testing...if it works under SDC, then it works everywhere

      All this, and our networks are still ridiculously porous. I have unix and linux experience. I am also Security+ certified, among many others. My home is network secure than the Air Force. And I don't need to spend millions of dollars doing it.

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    5. Re:85 percent of attacks were blocked by hAckz0r · · Score: 1

      Okay... I'd still like to see the stats for a fully patched stock system before I say "Oh, this isn't worth the effort."

      I never said it was not worth the effort. Exactly the opposite I believe. What I was saying is that according to their own self touted PR the stats they give actually suck by the standards of anyone that has the job to protect the most vital computers in the US Government. They themselves gave the stats, so just read the article.

      Do you have a comprehensive list of those attacks? I know that I don't.

      I do, but not the specific attacks mentioned because they did not want to give away that kind of information. I happen to be an Information Security professional, but my job would not last long if I gave you any particular specifics in an open forum like Slashdot. Until you have been on a Redteam trying to subvert a network in the name of national security I guess you would not understand exactly what those statistics mean. You shoot for 0% of known vulnerabilities, not 15%. Even 1% of the know vulnerabilities is way too much risk if you understand what is at stake with this particular client, as well as many others.

      How many of those attacks are software keyloggers? There's not a whole hell of a lot that you can do to protect against that.

      They were talking about intrusion, not spyware. You need to already be on the system to install spyware, and getting on it is where the 0% counts. But yes, you can also do something about key loggers. Cell phone spyware too, but that is much more difficult and all too few people even know how vulnerable they are.

      USB or FireWire DMA memory access sploits?

      Just like any hardware exploit you need physical access. So you think you can just walk down any hallway in the Pentagon and just slip into a random office to install a hardware keylogger? No, you can't. In my memory in some offices I had an armed escort even though I had a clearance. So I'd say that is not the major concern we have, though I have to agree with you when it comes to the threat of Corporate Espionage. That is a different story. Reflashing an iPod with custom DMA aware software utilizing firewire hardware you could suck a machine's memory onto it in seconds. Passwords, encryption keys, the whole 9 yards. Oouch. But then if you have physical access to a machine then these things are real hard to stop, but that is not where the biggest threat comes from unless you are talking about an inside job.

      We need details before we can pass judgement. Until we have these details, this "report" is just some MS PR flack flapping his gums.

      As for me I just need a calculator to pass judgement based on the content of this article. Yes, they do need to be doing this, but they also need to be doing a whole lot more. The article is all about PR, and for that it fails miserably if you truly understand the threat model. btw - check out some of the other comments to my last post if you think I may just be spouting hot air. I am actually dead serious in that this story is not good news, but it is possibly headed in the right direction. Its just not enough and if anybody had a chance of doing it right Microsoft should have been able to, unless they are just not serious about doing it right.

    6. Re:85 percent of attacks were blocked by hAckz0r · · Score: 1

      Well all I can say is I feel for you. In my opinion this SDC is all about rolling out a base configuration and saving labour doing it, but what happens after that? They will go through great pains to lock things down on a host to the point of being completely unusable and then also leave holes in the network so large you could just drive a bus through it. While I am glad they are paying attention to baseline security measures it is also important to keep a view at the big picture too. You only need one weak link and with the number of machines you have to apply those patches to almost always leaves a window of opportunity. The bad guys can download the official patches, reverse the code, identify the vulnerability, and create a point and shoot exploit, all in less time than an organization your size can even roll out those same patches. Time is still on their side.

    7. Re:85 percent of attacks were blocked by skogs · · Score: 1

      amen.

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  52. Department of State has been doing this for years by preaction · · Score: 1

    The DoS Embassy office and now the Office of Alumni Affairs has been funding open-source development for a few years now. As the contractor, we get their permission to contribute their features back to the main project (in this case, WebGUI). IMHO, the US Department of State is ahead of the curve in Washington DC.

  53. Only if... by sbeckstead · · Score: 1

    It's really only that secure if it is only connected to the .mil network. Connect it to the internet and poof!

  54. Screenshot by cashman73 · · Score: 1

    Here's a link to the screenshot of the new, super secure Windows XP. ;-)

  55. Re:It's not a new version, it's just a configurati by Ash+Vince · · Score: 1

    That's fine for corporations where people are paid to configure systems. However, Joe Consumer who doesn't know anything about enabling components or disabling services will find such a system completely unusable. It no longer will "Just Work".

    Maybe Joe / Joan should just learn rather than expecting everything to just work. Or they should pay for the privilege of remaining ignorant and get someone else maintain all the computers they need to use. At least if you disable everything by default it forces them to make this choice rather than currently where they get to just blame everyone else when their identity gets stolen.

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  56. New peripherals... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    But what good is XP without drivers for keyboard, CD/DVD drives, USB ports, or NICs?

    That's not the problem, military computers do sometimes have NICs and data copying equipment on but a very strictly regulated basis and the networks are isolated. What really annoys me about this version of XP is that it finally has drivers for the motion sensor and 7.62 mm GE Minigun that started shipping as a standard issue peripheral with all secure air-force workstations about six months ago. So remember to wear your electronic ID tag at all times.

  57. Money WELL spent... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Since the Air Force has begun the transition to Vista...

  58. Makes sense by slapout · · Score: 1

    So, if you're an organization with a lot of guns and airplanes you can get a better deal from MS?

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  59. Disabling those out of the box not a bad idea by davidwr · · Score: 1

    Obviously, they didn't remove the networking stack.

    Or maybe they did, for the "out of the box configuration."

    Personally, I wish one of the Windows install options was "keyboard, mouse, video, installation media drive, installation target drive only" then let me install networking, USB, and non-driver software and stacks on an as-needed basis. This would make it much easier/safer to use Windows in embedded, industrial, and kiosk environments.

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    1. Re:Disabling those out of the box not a bad idea by Tacvek · · Score: 2, Informative

      In Windows XP Embedded, you can choose which components to install, on a significantly more fine grained scale. For example, you can leave out Windows Explorer (i.e. the icons on the desktop, task bar, and File Management tool (the my computer window, etc)). I'm not sure quite how fine grained the driver selection is, but it is still far more fine-grained than tradition XP installations. You can definitely leave out unused network stacks, etc.

      But for some reason few people seem to be aware of it, or choose to use it. I mean I've seen logic analyzers running standard OEM Windows XP.

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    2. Re:Disabling those out of the box not a bad idea by Chabo · · Score: 1

      Unplug all network cables from the machine, and shut off the wireless radio, and you pretty much have what you're asking for. Why is this insufficient?

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    3. Re:Disabling those out of the box not a bad idea by pbhj · · Score: 1

      But for some reason few people seem to be aware of it, or choose to use it. I mean I've seen logic analyzers running standard OEM Windows XP.

      $1000 [per seat presumably] for the tools. $90 per device, but you only pay it when you ship the device. ( http://blogs.msdn.com/mikehall/archive/2004/12/22/331034.aspx )

      It might be the 5MB minimum build size too it seems.

    4. Re:Disabling those out of the box not a bad idea by Firehed · · Score: 1

      Because some nitwit will come by with an infected thumb drive which will grab files and post them to some server the next time it's on an internet-enabled machine.

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    5. Re:Disabling those out of the box not a bad idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Consider the costs of OEM XP. The per unit costs for anybody other than the very largest OEMs would exceed the ~$90. A 5MB minimum build size does not matter for applications that would otherwise be shipping OEM XP. The fact that the XP builds with unnecessary drivers and components removed would inherently both more secure, and more stable should make this an obvious choice. And before you complain about the large per seat costs, consider the Visual Studio per seat costs. If companies are willing to pay that per developer, they can certainly afford to have a small team with XP Embedded seats.

  60. Simple by PPH · · Score: 1

    Just put XP on a Time Warner broadband connection. Try downloading anything as big as a virus and you'll violate the TOS.

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  61. Super-secure windows! by asm2750 · · Score: 1

    Super-secure windows = having the the power cord unpluged.

  62. The Air Force by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I am not a comm guy, but the majority of systems the AF has are simply used by Airmen to access all the "online" crap they keep mitigating to. Most personnel issues are handled online, and most information systems people have to work with are also 'online' or on the AF intranet. Given that your everyday using Airmen does not need anything more than a secure browser, some CBT (computer based training) software and MS Office; disabling anything not related is the best course they can take. Also given that the current system is infected (or was in places) the conflicker worm, and all re=writable media is (was?) banned from the network. This sounds like something that will finally let me get some work done. Your feelings of "Why not use that super secure free Open Source software!!1!!" aside, this could be a large step in increasing the productivity of the AF labor pool. g down. And why pay for something you could build yourself? What person is going to bear the responsibility for anything going down? Far better for ones career to pass the buck to someone else.

  63. Re:It's not a new version, it's just a configurati by JATMON · · Score: 5, Insightful

    if you look closely at the article, this is something that the air force did between 2005-2007. so this is actually old news. 'The Air Force began the project in 2005 and finished installing the new configuration on systems in 2007. In contracts with hardware providers it demanded that vendors pre-load the special Windows XP configuration onto systems before delivering them to the Air Force.'

  64. super secure sudo by viralMeme · · Score: 1

    "Many of the changes were complex and technical, but Gilligan says one of the most important and simplest was an obvious fix to how Windows XP handled passwords. The Air Force insisted the system be configured so administrative passwords were unique, and different from general user passwords, preventing an average user from obtaining administrative privileges. Specifications were added to increase the length and complexity of passwords and expire them every 60 days"

    Is there any way of scripting this under Linux so as to equate to this NSA locked down super secure XP

  65. no video... by mevets · · Score: 1

    I was hoping to see Balmer yelling "Gilligan!" and hitting him with the little plaque.

  66. Microsoft lobbying vs. US Air Force by janwedekind · · Score: 2, Funny

    And the US Air Force lost this fight.

  67. Don't forget "Super Unusable." by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Because that's more or less what this configuration does to your XP box.

    Trust me. Very few of you want this.
    And very few of you will want a Government IT job because of shit like this.

    Now for the rest of you super paranoid control freaks, have at it...

  68. Re:It's not a new version, it's just a configurati by thrillseeker · · Score: 1

    The Air Force began the project in 2005 and finished installing the new configuration on systems in 2007

    Wow ... and I usually only need a dozen reboots or so to get a copy of XP installed ...

  69. Federal Desktop Core Configuration by viralMeme · · Score: 1

    What operating systems have FDCC settings? Currently, FDCC settings are intended for Microsoft Windows XP Professional with Service Pack (SP) 2 or SP 3 and Microsoft Windows Vista Business, Microsoft Windows Vista Enterprise, and Microsoft Windows Vista Ultimate with SP 1.

  70. How to make a windows PC super-secure by gurps_npc · · Score: 1

    Step 1. Remove all wireless capability. Step 2. Use wax to seal all input devices except for the keyboard and the mouse. Step 3. Put a GPS unit transponder inside the device, constantly broadcasting it's location.

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  71. oxymoron bingo! by smellsofbikes · · Score: 1

    It's an Open Secret that Military Intelligence will use Super-Secure Windows XP! Then they can eat some Jumbo Shrimp while watching Virtual Porn, and when the super security is Found Missing, they will Act Natural about this Minor Crisis.
    It's my Unbiased Opinion that this will become a Tragic Comedy.

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  72. UAC in Windows XP USAF Edition by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    While it's true that they disabled Autorun in XP USAF Edition, what makes it truly secure is that they ported the Vista User Account Control to XP for the Air Force.

    Here's how it works:
    Enemy Pilot wirelessly hacks into Air Force pilot's OS and attempts to send an command to eject the pilot from the plane.

    Air Force pilot sees the following message appear on his console:

    Windows needs your permission to continue
    If you started this action, continue.
    Eject pilot seat

    To continue, type an administrator password, and then click on OK.

    Pilot clicks on Cancel, and all is good!

    However, rumors persist that they did not test the scenario where the pilot actually presses the eject button.

  73. The source code by samcan · · Score: 1

    // Top-secret!
    // Copyright 2009 Microsoft Corp.
    // Windows XP super-secure for USAF
    #include <linux.h>
    int main(){
    // start bootup
    ShowWindowsLoading();
    LoadKernel(linux);
    // show shell
    ShowGUI();
    }

  74. STEEL DOOR! by Jeremiah+Cornelius · · Score: 2, Funny

    Meet GRASS HUT!

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    1. Re:STEEL DOOR! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And we laugh at people who lock their convertibles.. with the top down!

    2. Re:STEEL DOOR! by DarkOx · · Score: 1

      You have never owned a convertible apparently. This might very with make model, hard top soft top things like that, but here is the general deal.

      *If you are worried about something in the car being stolen you lock it in the boot(trunk).
      *The remaining locks are for honest people, chances are pretty good even with the top up its way easier to gain access to the interior of the door than with a sedan and therefore bypass the lock.
      *You don't really want it locked when the top is up. Depending on your insurance, it might be better for you if someone simply opens the door to steal your $200 car stereo rather, rather than first slicing through your $500 canvas top and then opening the door. This is something you should understand.
      *To prevent the car from being stolen, a batter quick disconnect is nice. This is especially try if you have a car where the batter is mounted in the boot and is clean as opposed to under the bonnet. There is a light fused line to all power to electronics, put you pull the big steal pin out of the positive lead. If someone manages hotwire it unless they knew about that little trap and first broke into the boot as well and fixed it, as soon as they touch the starter the fuse will blow and the car will be dead.
      *Convertibles are probably always a little less secure than other cars no matter what way less secure if you don't go through a little extra trouble.

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    3. Re:STEEL DOOR! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "*Convertibles are probably always a little less secure than other cars no matter what way less secure if you don't go through a little extra trouble."

      Like owning a big dog who likes to stay in the car.
      Or this being Slashdot, perhaps a robot dog. K9?

    4. Re:STEEL DOOR! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Gee! Thanx fella.. You're a real bucketful of information there. And just a little anal.

    5. Re:STEEL DOOR! by jonadab · · Score: 1

      > To prevent the car from being stolen, a batter quick disconnect is nice.
      > This is especially try if you have a car where the batter is mounted in
      > the boot and is clean as opposed to under the bonnet. There is a light
      > fused line to all power to electronics, put you pull the big steal pin
      > out of the positive lead.

      Incidentally, what language is this? It bears such a strong resemblance to English, I suspect I could learn it with only a few years of study.

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  75. Isn't this old news? by xactuary · · Score: 0

    This news was supposed to run on April 1, not May 1.

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  76. Super Secure XP??? by thrillbert · · Score: 1

    I haven't read the article, but I can almost guess what this secure XP consists of..

    DOS 3.2
    DosShell

    And yes, I know I'm dating myself on that one, but my EDLIN is not working so I gotta go DEBUG A:\slashdot.exe.

    1. Re:Super Secure XP??? by fluffy99 · · Score: 1

      It consists of nothing more than enabling some of the already present security features. XP has a huge number of security settings that are defaulted to disabled. Stuff like syn-attack protection shouldn't break anything. Locking down registry keys like class\appid and disabling remote dcom can break things, though.

      If you truly want to go hog wild, use the DISA gold disk to enable all the settings. Or use the NSA Secure Technical Implementation Guide (STIG) to the letter. It's guaranteed to break a large portion of your software (which relied on these insecurities to work). If you're lucky the box will be partially useable afterwards.

  77. real cost of secure configuration by viralMeme · · Score: 1

    "The NSA got together with the National Institute of Standards and Technology, the Defense Information Systems Agency and the Center for Internet Security .. It then took two years for the Air Force to catalog and test all the software"

    How much would it cost the average company to hire on the equivalent of the NSA, the NIoST, the DISA, the CfIS and the US Air Force - and spend TWO YEARS in locking down the network. Anyone care to propose a tender?

    1. Re:real cost of secure configuration by kismet666 · · Score: 1

      You misunderstood, it only took a few meetings and email threads spread over month or two to figure out the settings, the hard part was testing the 1,000s of client applications in use across the network. The settings break software from a lot of vendors.

    2. Re:real cost of secure configuration by viralMeme · · Score: 1

      "the hard part was testing the 1,000s of client applications in use across the network"

      What would this cost if factored into the total cost of the project. How many people are involved in the testing. What is the methodology used?

    3. Re:real cost of secure configuration by kismet666 · · Score: 1

      I don't know.

  78. SELinux ... by terbo · · Score: 1

    A FOAF's worked on a project aimed at 'securing XP'. I do not know if it was this one.

    This friend asked the programmer if he had heard of SELinux. He said, "What?"

    Surreal.

    "the government could use its massive purchasing power to get companies to produce more secure products" - really?

    There needs to be more motivation for them to release products that are more than 'good enough'?

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  79. Re:It's not a new version, it's just a configurati by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Joe Consumer who doesn't know anything about enabling components or disabling services will find such a system completely unusable. It no longer will "Just Work".

    Mac OS X has file sharing and printer sharing and network sharing and remote connections and remote desktop and ... all disabled by default.

    Joe Consumer can enable any particular service by clicking a checkbox. The defaults for the service when enabled are sane. If Joe Consumer wants to change the defaults, doing so is (mostly) straight-forward. If there is a setting which might lead to insecurity, there is an explanatory note associated with the setting. If Joe Consumer changes a setting to a value which is less secure, there is a warning dialog.

    Mac OS X isn't perfect and there are lots of things about Apple to criticize, but with sane defaults and a straight-forward user interface with meaningfully-named options with English explanations, it can "Just Work".

  80. security program manager at Microsoft by rs232 · · Score: 4, Funny

    "I am a security program manager at Microsoft"

    I wouldn't mention this on your next job application ;)

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    1. Re:security program manager at Microsoft by kismet666 · · Score: 1

      I was a security program manager at Microsoft, I worked their for 7 years, from the worst of the worst during Nimda until a few years ago. I had a *small* roll in the company's learning how to do security more effectively. Since then I've been running my own consulting business, I've turn down projects every month becuase I'm too busy and I turn down full-time job offers with 6 digit salaries several times a year. Security Program Manager at Microsoft seems like a great thing to have a on a resume.

  81. Waste of time by will_die · · Score: 1

    The Air Force has put out the order that all systems, except those exempt for specific reasons, have to have Vista installed by the late fall of this year.
    They are not longer building standardized XP desktops, and the only special systems that could use this would have to be recertified to do so.

  82. And yet, we still use Windows 2000 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Here at US Strategic Command at Offutt Air Force base in Omaha, Nebraska (a joint command), we don't need no stinkin' Windows XP! Why, Win2k is just fine for all us folk here. In fact, we are going to SKIP windows XP and move straight to Windows Vista last year... uh I mean this year (major roll-out keeps getting pushed back-can't understand why). Yep! In the works right now. What's that? Win 7 is coming out this year? Nah. We don't need that either. We'll go to Vista instead! Keep in mind that 98% of all the machines there are still on Win2k and the Vista migration still hasn't happened in force, but there are no plans yet to skip Vista and wait for Windows 7. My guess is that they already bought the licenses for Vista, but I can neither confirm or deny that.

  83. As secure as NT? by wap911 · · Score: 1

    Remember when MS was blowing their horn about getting a "level 4" [some such] from the DoD for NT handling everything the threw at it.

    Then when MS was packing up to go home, they held up the network cable and said "oh, how silly of us, never mind".

    This does not surprise me since governments are MS #2 customer, right behind themselves.
    Do the math, all those VAR's, anti-? companies, etc, yep, "our customers wanted this"-----right.

  84. New meaning for BSOD by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Blue Sky of Death

  85. Microsoft Government Security Program by PNutts · · Score: 0

    Hey USAF! If you can't see the source code and see the patches for later versions, you can't have any hope of securing the system in the long run.

    The Microsoft Government Security Program does allow review of source code.

  86. Re:Autorun? 70's commercial, redux... by davidsyes · · Score: 1

    The CHAIR FORCE, the CHAIR FORCE
    A GREAT way of STREIF, a GREAT way of STREIffff...

    (for any of you old enough to remember the USAF commercials jingle)

    Now, mix "chair force" (seated, w/ little ground action) work style with chair-throwing generals.... hehehehe... who needs bunker busters and snazzy guidance systems when generals will be able to out-Balmer Balmer by throwing government standard chairs at quanto-molecular speeds?

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  87. Balmer, Gilligan, SuperSecure Windows XP... by Phizzle · · Score: 2, Funny

    And then I blew my morning coffee through my nose...

    --
    I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.
    1. Re:Balmer, Gilligan, SuperSecure Windows XP... by vaporland · · Score: 1

      FTFA: "We started to put discipline into what people were fielding in the way of applications," Gilligan said.

      "Little Buddy, what are you doing with the Professor's radio?" the Skipper said...

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  88. It is absolutely amazing to me by Jane+Q.+Public · · Score: 1

    ... that the Air Force would use Windows at all.

    If I were a government (or a head of government), I would NEVER allow my military or important offices use proprietary software! I want the source code in my hand, period.

    What the hell happened to our Government? When did it become such a circus of morons?

    1. Re:It is absolutely amazing to me by ClosedSource · · Score: 1

      I expect that if the government needed and wanted the XP source code, they could get it. I don't think the government would want everybody else to have access to it though.

    2. Re:It is absolutely amazing to me by YrWrstNtmr · · Score: 1

      If I were a government (or a head of government), I would NEVER allow my military or important offices use proprietary software! I want the source code in my hand, period.

      What would you have done 10-15 yrs ago? Linux was in its wildly unusable infancy. OpenOffice? Not even a wet dream yet. Apache? Ha.

      10 yrs ago, there was no enterprise level, non proprietary suite and supporting OS. Thin, green screen clients, or Windows. They made the decision to push functionality out to the desktop.

      Fast forward to 2009. MS is entrenched. Switching to something else would be a HUGE effort. At least a decade, just for one DoD component.
      You cannot, no matter how much you wish it were so, jump the tracks to another platform that easily.

    3. Re:It is absolutely amazing to me by kismet666 · · Score: 1

      The US government and many other organizations have had access to Windows source code for years. There are several source sharing programs at Microsoft for government customers, commercial customers, partners, and universies.

    4. Re:It is absolutely amazing to me by Jane+Q.+Public · · Score: 1

      There were other operating systems, some of them of Government design.

      Others have stated that Microsoft does in fact share its source code (now) with Government. Fine. But I know that was not always the case.

      I did not say it could be done instantly. But I would have started at least 6 years ago.

  89. The Yorktown by westlake · · Score: 1
    i know feeding the trolls - but he wanted to be impressed

    The Aegis Cruiser Yorktown was decommissioned in 2004 after twenty years of active service.

    The elephant can remember.

    The geek can't forget.

    In 1995 Yorktown was chose as the prototype Smart Ship. The test bed. Test beds are pushed to failure. That is their job.

    The tech was not stripped from Yorktown after 1995.

    The core technologies installed in YORKTOWN - are - a 16 workstation fiber optic Local Area Network (LAN), Integrated Bridge System (IBS), Voyage Management System (VMS), Damage Control System(DCS), Integrated Conditioning and Assessment System (ICAS), HYDRA wireless communication system, and Standard Machinery Control System (SMCS). CG 48 Guided Missle Cruiser History

    As for myself, I find this later-day example of Microsoft's performance as a naval subcontractor rather more to the point: USS George H.W. Bush (CVN 77)

  90. Problem is, you have to join the Air Force = b.s. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "If they can make it more secure, why don't they offer everyone the secure version?" - by slashkitty (21637) on Friday May 01, @02:30PM (#27790685) Homepage

    You can do it, yourself, is why... &, here is how:

    ----

    HOW TO SECURE Windows 2000/XP/Server 2003, & even VISTA, + make it 'fun-to-do', via CIS Tool Guidance (&, beyond):

    http://www.tcmagazine.com/forums/index.php?s=205e8f8ebee94af1add5ec477faf8a70&showtopic=2662

    ----

    It's doable, w/ about 1-2 hours, TOPS, of your time, in order to "security-harden" a Windows NT-based OS of modern variety, yourself... that's how/why!

    A QUOTE FROM THE ARTICLE THAT I KNOW IS NOT TRUE:

    ---

    "The only problem is, you have to join the Air Force to get it."

    ----

    How do I know? Besides the results I have seen for myself, paying clients, friends & family? Well, here is a quote from an end-user that applied that guide above in the 1st url I posted, as evidence thereof:

    ----

    http://www.xtremepccentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=7de5812b7341873cc5e6ee9582f21bf9&t=28430&page=3

    "Its 2009 - still trouble free!

    I was told last week by a co worker who does active directory administration, and he said I was doing overkill. I told him yes, but I just eliminated the half life in windows that you usually get. He said good point.

    So from 2008 till 2009. No speed decreases, its been to a lan party, moved around in a move, and it still NEVER has had the OS reinstalled besides the fact I imaged the drive over in 2008.

    Great stuff!

    My client STILL Hasn't called me back in regards to that one machine to get it locked down for the kid. I am glad it worked and I am sure her wallet is appreciated too now that it works. Speaking of which, I need to call her to see if I can get some leads.

    APK - I will say it again, the guide is FANTASTIC! Its made my PC experience much easier. Sandboxing was great. Getting my host file updated, setting services to system service, rather than system local. (except AVG updater, needed system local)"

    THRONKA@xtremepccentral.com

    ----

    "Nuff said...", as the saying goes... for now, @ least!

    APK

  91. My guess is their super secure Windows is by thetoadwarrior · · Score: 1

    A linux distro rebranded as Windows XP.

  92. but... but... but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I thought Windows 98 was the most secure version of Windows ever created! Do you mean to tell me that those bits of text that were displayed when I installed the OS were lying to me?

    1. Re:but... but... but... by ClosedSource · · Score: 1

      Are you sure they were talking about being "secure"? I remember lots of talk about stability, not so much about security. Of course Windows NT was more stable than Windows 98 but that wasn't a consumer OS.

  93. Somehow this reminds me... by AlgorithMan · · Score: 1

    Somehow this reminds me to the windows 95 installation process... which told you that it had become extremely secure...

    no, I'm serious! stop laughing!

    --
    The MAFIAA is a bunch of mindless jerks who will be the first up against the wall when the revolution comes
  94. Join The Slashdot Challenge : +1, Fun by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    crack the most secure version of Windows
    and win a trip to the
    Bahamas

    Yours In Communism,
    Kilgore Trout

  95. Oxymoron? by JustNiz · · Score: 3, Funny

    >> the most secure version of Windows XP

    Isn't that an oxymoron? Kinda like dry water?

    1. Re:Oxymoron? by w0mprat · · Score: 1
      Yes. Dry water has been observed in the lab: http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=scientists-create-dry-wat

      Isn't that an oxymoron? Kinda like dry water?

      --
      After logging in slashdot still does not take you back to the page you were on. It's been that way for 20 years.
  96. This is old news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Microsoft is not "releasing" it, they already did. The article says the process was mentioned. The Air Force is already moving to Vista.

  97. "You have to join the Air Force to get it" = b.s.! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Nothing can make Windows (or any other OS) completely secure if it's connected to a network" - by PapaSmurph (249554) on Friday May 01, @02:37PM (#27790805) Homepage

    THE MILITARY HAS GOTTEN 'SECURITY-HARDENED BUILDS' OF WINDOWS, before (circa 2004 in fact), see here:

    ----

    23 November 2004

    US military gets its own secure version of Windows

    http://www.techworld.com/opsys/news/index.cfm?newsid=2666

    ----

    & they have to, as you can all see, based on this report, yet again...

    Makes sense though - because new exploits + vulnerabilities arise, & people LEARN HOW TO "GET AROUND" RESTRICTIONS, though, many times to their OWN dismay!

    SO, that "all said & aside", & what I quoted from you? YES - I'm inclined to agree!

    (Albeit only IF a person doesn't have a "Security-Hardened" & FULLY (current) service pack + hotfix applied system, & ONLY on 1 grounds:

    That being People Themselves... (I.E.-> People "break/bend rules", ALL THE TIME, & when it gets them in a jam? Then, they call for help, & complain about Windows etc. et al))

    E.G.-> I have a pal named Jack that followed this guide I wrote, & he went from having 200+ malware infestations a week, down to maybe 1-2 a year now. He knows what did he in as well! (He has a "penchant for Pr0n", & he also used javascript almost indiscrimately/unlimitedly (is there such a word in the latter? lol) on every website he visits (this he has cut way, Way, WAY down on, & in turn, so did his infections also))...

    Still, I have evidences of folks that CAN "follow rules" (for their own good no less), & I provide THEIR results (1 of them) below, for "contrast & compare" type scenarios vs. my buddies' experience above... This guide below, really works (&, you don't have to be in the US Military to get it, you can do it, yourself):

    ----

    HOW TO SECURE Windows 2000/XP/Server 2003, & even VISTA, + make it 'fun-to-do', via CIS Tool Guidance (&, beyond):

    http://www.tcmagazine.com/forums/index.php?s=205e8f8ebee94af1add5ec477faf8a70&showtopic=2662

    ----

    It's doable, w/ about 1-2 hours, TOPS, of your time, in order to "security-harden" a Windows NT-based OS of modern variety, yourself... that's how/why!

    A QUOTE FROM THE ARTICLE THAT I KNOW IS NOT TRUE:

    ---

    "The only problem is, you have to join the Air Force to get it."

    ----

    How do I know, besides my actually SEEING the results I have seen for myself, paying clients, friends & family?

    Well, here is a quote from an end-user that applied that guide above in the 1st url I posted, as evidence thereof:

    ----

    http://www.xtremepccentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=7de5812b7341873cc5e6ee9582f21bf9&t=28430&page=3

    "Its 2009 - still trouble free! I was told last week by a co worker who does active directory administration, and he said I was doing overkill. I told him yes, but I just eliminated the half life in windows that you usually get. He said good point. So from 2008 till 2009. No speed decreases, its been to a lan party, moved around in a move, and it still NEVER has had the OS reinstalled besides the fact I imaged the drive over in 2008. Great stuff! My client STILL Hasn't called me back in regards to that one machine to get it locked down for the kid. I am glad it worked and I am sure her wallet is appreciated too now that it works. Speaking of which, I need to call her to see if I can get some leads. APK - I will say it again, the guide is FANTASTIC! Its made my PC experience much easier. Sandboxing was great. Getting my ho

  98. The Most Secure(TM) by mebrahim · · Score: 1
    Parts of the code:

    int authenticate()
    {
    return ERR_AUTHENTICATION_FAILED;
    }

    int authorize()
    {
    return ERR_ACCESS_DENIED;
    }

  99. Just Imagine by jhfry · · Score: 1

    Now just imagine what that $100 Million would accomplish if spent contributing to a free platform to which they could "own" the code.

    Let's see, they saved ~$100M on 5 years on JUST MICROSOFT LICENSES; so lets estimate its a savings of 10% (probably less) so they were spending about $1B for COTS software over 5 years, now they are only spending $750M.

    $750M would pay 1500 employees $100K/Yr for that same 5 years. At the end of 5 years, a 1500 person development team (with help from the public) would have turned out one hell of a secure linux/BSD distro. After that they could eliminate most of those positions, and stick with auditing community contributions for security reasons.

    Why the hell any agency with the resources of the US Government (or many large corporations) don't contribute to and use free software makes no sense to me. It seems like only a handful of major companies and governments are pushing for open operating systems and desktop software... but they all spend millions on web development and keep pumping money to Microsoft year after year.

    I would imagine if 5 of the top 10 governments were to get together and pool 50% of their software licensing budgets over the next 5 years, they could replace 90% of their commercial software with open alternatives that meet their needs; nearly eliminating the cost of software licensing forever. The financial benefits are nothing compared to the security and flexibility gained by owning the OS.

    It's sad that what MS did for the USAF is being touted as a "good thing"... For the amount of money that MS is making off our government I think anyone who has ever put their life on the line for our country should be entitled to Free BJ's from MS execs in Redmond. And now MS is being made to look good.

    I think the bigger story here is that the USAF was being charged over $100M in excess licensing fees because it had multiple contracts with Microsoft. And that Microsoft has been giving their largest customers a generic, bug ridden, POS OS and not been willing to respond to their largest customer's needs until now.

    What do you bet this is just a tactic to prevent the USAF from deploying their own OS as described above.

    --
    Sometimes the best solution is to stop wasting time looking for an easy solution.
    1. Re:Just Imagine by dave87656 · · Score: 1

      $750M would pay 1500 employees $100K/Yr for that same 5 years. At the end of 5 years, a 1500 person development team (with help from the public) would have turned out one hell of a secure linux/BSD distro.

      My thoughts exactly. It's amazing how much money is wasted in government.

    2. Re:Just Imagine by kismet666 · · Score: 1

      They's spend several times what you estimate in savings rewriting thier internally developed applications. Then they'd spend even more figuring out how to replace all of the commercial apps.

  100. See here then, Keruo... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "My guess would be" - by Keruo (771880) on Friday May 01, @02:22PM (#27790545)

    Something along the lines of this:

    ----

    HOW TO SECURE Windows 2000/XP/Server 2003, & even VISTA, + make it 'fun-to-do', via CIS Tool Guidance (&, beyond):

    http://www.tcmagazine.com/forums/index.php?s=205e8f8ebee94af1add5ec477faf8a70&showtopic=2662 [tcmagazine.com]

    ----

    It's doable, w/ about 1-2 hours, TOPS, of your time, in order to "security-harden" a Windows NT-based OS of modern variety, yourself... that's how/why!

    A QUOTE FROM THE ARTICLE THAT I KNOW IS NOT TRUE:

    ---

    "The only problem is, you have to join the Air Force to get it."

    ----

    SO - How do I know, besides my actually SEEING the results I have seen for myself, paying clients, friends & family?

    Well, here is a quote from an end-user that applied that guide above in the 1st url I posted, as evidence thereof:

    ----

    http://www.xtremepccentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=7de5812b7341873cc5e6ee9582f21bf9&t=28430&page=3 [xtremepccentral.com]

    "Its 2009 - still trouble free! I was told last week by a co worker who does active directory administration, and he said I was doing overkill. I told him yes, but I just eliminated the half life in windows that you usually get. He said good point. So from 2008 till 2009. No speed decreases, its been to a lan party, moved around in a move, and it still NEVER has had the OS reinstalled besides the fact I imaged the drive over in 2008. Great stuff! My client STILL Hasn't called me back in regards to that one machine to get it locked down for the kid. I am glad it worked and I am sure her wallet is appreciated too now that it works. Speaking of which, I need to call her to see if I can get some leads. APK - I will say it again, the guide is FANTASTIC! Its made my PC experience much easier. Sandboxing was great. Getting my host file updated, setting services to system service, rather than system local. (except AVG updater, needed system local)"

    THRONKA@xtremepccentral.com

    ----

    Where even "normal end-users" can get results, like that, by taking 1-2 hrs. of their time, TOPS, to apply some settings given to they by CIS Tool (a multiplatform gauge/benchmark of std. industry-based best practices for each OS platform tested)

    "Nuff said"...

    APK

    P.S.=> Following the security hardening guidelines provided by NIST can do very nearly the same thing, so, I imagine a lot of that & what is in the security guide I authored up there in the 1st URL in 2007-2008 is what has been applied to it (vs. the easily mass-deployed stock/oem std. model of XP most folks get)... and?

    THE MILITARY HAS GOTTEN 'SECURITY-HARDENED BUILDS' OF WINDOWS, before (circa 2004 in fact), see here:

    ----

    US military gets its own secure version of Windows:

    23 November 2004

    http://www.techworld.com/opsys/news/index.cfm?newsid=2666 [techworld.com]

    ----

    & they have to, as you can all see, based on this report, yet again...

    Makes sense though - because new exploits + vulnerabilities arise, & people LEARN HOW TO "GET AROUND" RESTRICTIONS, though, many times to their OWN dismay... apk

  101. And yet, some Commands still use Win2k by GeekZilla · · Score: 1

    Here at US Strategic Command at Offutt Air Force base in Omaha, Nebraska (a joint command), we don't need no stinkin' Windows XP! Why, Win2k is just fine for all us folk here. In fact, we are going to SKIP windows XP and move straight to Windows Vista last year... uh I mean this year (major roll-out keeps getting pushed back-can't understand why). Yep! In the works right now. What's that? Win 7 is coming out this year? Nah. We don't need that either. We'll go to Vista instead! Keep in mind that 98% of all the machines there are still on Win2k and the Vista migration still hasn't happened in force, but there are no plans yet to skip Vista and wait for Windows 7. My guess is that they already bought the licenses for Vista, but I can neither confirm or deny that.

    --
    Veritas patesco per quaestio questio. Truth is revealed through questions.
  102. I shudder to think... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Our military using Windows? Doesn't make me feel secure!

  103. Re:It's not a new version, it's just a configurati by geekoid · · Score: 1

    it may be, it just might not be compatible or usable by the average user.

    --
    The Kruger Dunning explains most post on /. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect
  104. Wallpaper and security by billstewart · · Score: 1

    My Windows wallpaper for the last few years has been a MacOS startup screen. People who see it do occasionally ask me when Apple made a thin black laptop (it's an IBM T41) or if I'm running a hacked MacOS.

    It does seem to have some security implications, though - something seems to have locked it into place, so even if I update the wallpaper using the normal mechanisms, the MacOS image gets restored whenever I mess with screen resolutions (e.g. plug into the LCD at work...) It happened around the time my corporate IT department locked in the screensavers with an unchangeable 10-minute timeout and password prompt.

    --

    Bill Stewart
    New Fast-Compression-only CPR http://preview.tinyurl.com/dy575ks
  105. Re:It's not a new version, it's just a configurati by tubeguy · · Score: 1

    This is where you trade money for intelligence and/or diligence. Either you pay someone to do it or figure out how to do it yourself. If you're stupid AND poor, well, good luck with that.

  106. Round 'n round with Microsoft by gringofrijolero · · Score: 1

    There's a hole in the bucket, dear Liza, dear Liza..

    --
    Todos mis movimientos están friamente calculados
  107. lool by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Window XP Pro 100% secure would mean NSA not to have access to computers world wild... do you really think that they want that?? Never! That confiker guy, the day NSA says it stops it will REALLY stop... but the president must say to NSA fu*k that guy down immediately.

  108. Re:How to make a windows PC super-secure by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    4. shred 35 times the all disk and melt it away for your breakfast, here you have a secure Windows PC :P

  109. attack data by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This may just be a ploy to get people to attack it to find the 15% where there are filters in place to capture anomalous data from certain or all sources and send it to live security auditors who will instantly issue commands to reverse any threat action.

  110. Re:"You have to join the Air Force to get it" = b. by ion.simon.c · · Score: 1

    Please explain to me why I've been running a stock (fully patched) Windows Server 2003 Enterprise installation for three years straight, have never reinstalled the OS, and have not experienced any of the dreaded "Windows is Getting Too Old" speed decreases?

    No fancy guide is required to get this performance. It's attainable out of the box. All that's needed is -as you say- user education. Don't install crapware and you're done!

  111. Re:"You have to join the Air Force to get it" = b. by ion.simon.c · · Score: 1

    Also, your guide? It's not hardening.
    Check out projects like Hardened Gentoo and Hardened Solaris. No amount of registry tweaking and software uninstallation can make Windows match up to the results from either of those projects.

  112. Super Secure My Ass..... by IHC+Navistar · · Score: 1

    Super-Secure?

    Knowing Microsoft, I'll bet their 'Super Secure' version is the equivalent of installing a cheap Chinese-made deadbolt over a spackle-encrusted lock that has already been kicked open.....

    "Pssst! The key is under the mat!"

    --
    Knowing Google's lust for data collection, the Soviet Union is still alive and well inside the psyche of Sergey Brin....
    1. Re:Super Secure My Ass..... by GeekZilla · · Score: 1

      Hey-Do live near me? That sounds like my apartment door!

      --
      Veritas patesco per quaestio questio. Truth is revealed through questions.
  113. Re:"You have to join the Air Force to get it" = b. by ion.simon.c · · Score: 1

    There's a reason why most IT professionals prefer centralized installation systems over manually walking to each of the systems that they manage and installing each piece of software a machine at a time. Distributing dynamic things such as hosts files through forum posts is generally a *really* bad plan. DNS changes *Very* quickly. Forum posts (especially identical ones spread throughout tens of forums) do not.

    If you're going to be a saviour of the computer world, get a web page, post what you have to say there, link to it, and keep it up to date. If your advice is good, you'll gain pagerank faster than just spraying copypasta across the web.

  114. In other news . . . by colinrichardday · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The Air Force has yet to explain who, if anyone, authorized the bombing of a Redmond, WA software company by a squadron of B-52s.

  115. So what torrent site.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So what torrent site can I get this on? It's not on the pirate bay. :(

  116. Only command line? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Or just the command line option?

  117. Put this in perspective by dave87656 · · Score: 1

    Folks, they're not using XP (or any Windows for that matter) for the things that really need to be secure. They are probably using a variant of BSD or Unix for those things.

    I would guess they are using XP for the masses where information security is impossible anyway.

  118. unbelievable by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Without networking, USB, and keyboard: yes, otherwise how is that possible............

  119. Two Versions. One Bucket. by Czernobog · · Score: 1

    Erm. I'm ashamed of myself.

    --
    /. Where the truth
  120. It's not about SPEED ion.simon.c (it's security) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Please explain to me why I've been running a stock (fully patched) Windows Server 2003 Enterprise installation for three years straight, have never reinstalled the OS, and have not experienced any of the dreaded "Windows is Getting Too Old" speed decreases?" - by ion.simon.c (1183967) on Friday May 01, @08:50PM (#27794633)

    This isn't about speed really, it's about securing a system by the guidelines set in CIS Tool (a security compliance audit basically, based on "industry best practices") -> http://www.tcmagazine.com/forums/index.php?s=f782d2c005c8e9d388e21ba0d2671695&showtopic=2662 (although you will notice more online IF you apply certain points from it, mainly, a custom HOSTS file)...

    ----

    "No fancy guide is required to get this performance. It's attainable out of the box" - by ion.simon.c (1183967) on Friday May 01, @08:50PM (#27794633)

    Once more? It's NOT about speed (though you WILL see more online, if you follow all/each of its points)...

    APK

  121. Link? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    anyone got a torrent file or link?

  122. E.G.- Hackers hijack DNS records 04/21/2009 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    " DNS changes *Very* quickly." - by ion.simon.c (1183967) on Friday May 01, @09:47PM (#27794995)

    That has NOTHING to do with an adbanner, bad adbanner, or bad website blocking custom HOSTS files!

    (That was the main reason & purpose of noting them in my guide)...

    E.G./I.E.-> HOSTS files that use 0, 0.0.0.0, or 127.0.0.1 (no DNS server broadcasts those, mind you) to block out known bad adbanners, bad websites, etc. et al!

    ( & the security portion of using a HOSTS file is largely that, not "hardcoding" in your favorite websites into it so you avoid DNS round-trip lookups of URL-to-IP address resolutions )...

    AND, as far as "DNS Servers changing", AND, their reliability for URL-to-IP address resolutions?

    (BOY, do they... )

    See here:

    Hackers hijack DNS records of high profile New Zealand sites

    April 21st, 2009

    http://blogs.zdnet.com/security/?p=3185

    (That's VERY recent, & only a SINGLE EXAMPLE of "DNS poisoning", & that goes on quite a lot (especially the past 6 yrs. or so now)).

    ----

    "There's a reason why most IT professionals prefer centralized installation systems over manually walking to each of the systems that they manage and installing each piece of software a machine at a time." - by ion.simon.c (1183967) on Friday May 01, @09:47PM (#27794995)

    The guide deals in things that can be "mass deployed" via Group Policies (or via logon scripts via .reg file merges, or HOSTS file copies to local machine nodes on a network, in the same manner)...

    So - how is this not the same? The guide shows a user on a single machine how to do this (& it states it is geared to single machines @ home online on the internet, though it also warns what to do, or not to do, on a LAN/WAN (especially an AD one)).

    (E.G.-> You'd "prototype" a single machine with diff. wares a particular company uses OR custom develops, & then deploy the hardened settings across the rest once you have a proven, working, & useable setup)

    APK

    P.S.-> The bottom-line however, IS that the guide's recommendations are largely "industry based practices" for the OS tested per CIS Tool, AND, that it just works!... an example thereof:

    ----

    http://www.xtremepccentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=7de5812b7341873cc5e6ee9582f21bf9&t=28430&page=3

    "Its 2009 - still trouble free! I was told last week by a co worker who does active directory administration, and he said I was doing overkill. I told him yes, but I just eliminated the half life in windows that you usually get. He said good point. So from 2008 till 2009. No speed decreases, its been to a lan party, moved around in a move, and it still NEVER has had the OS reinstalled besides the fact I imaged the drive over in 2008. Great stuff! My client STILL Hasn't called me back in regards to that one machine to get it locked down for the kid. I am glad it worked and I am sure her wallet is appreciated too now that it works. Speaking of which, I need to call her to see if I can get some leads. APK - I will say it again, the guide is FANTASTIC! Its made my PC experience much easier. Sandboxing was great. Getting my host file updated, setting services to system service, rather than system local. (except AVG updater, needed system local)"

    THRONKA@xtremepccentral.com

    ----

    apk

  123. Results users obtained say otherwise... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Also, your guide? It's not hardening." - by ion.simon.c (1183967) on Friday May 01, @08:57PM (#27794675)

    I'll have to disagree with you: It absolutely is (considering you are, for example, "fortifying" a file, like a custom HOSTS file, the registry, & others vs. known bad sites etc.) - &, especially when it gets others w/ results like this:

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    http://www.xtremepccentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=7de5812b7341873cc5e6ee9582f21bf9&t=28430&page=3

    "Its 2009 - still trouble free! I was told last week by a co worker who does active directory administration, and he said I was doing overkill. I told him yes, but I just eliminated the half life in windows that you usually get. He said good point. So from 2008 till 2009. No speed decreases, its been to a lan party, moved around in a move, and it still NEVER has had the OS reinstalled besides the fact I imaged the drive over in 2008. Great stuff! My client STILL Hasn't called me back in regards to that one machine to get it locked down for the kid. I am glad it worked and I am sure her wallet is appreciated too now that it works. Speaking of which, I need to call her to see if I can get some leads. APK - I will say it again, the guide is FANTASTIC! Its made my PC experience much easier. Sandboxing was great. Getting my host file updated, setting services to system service, rather than system local. (except AVG updater, needed system local)"

    THRONKA@xtremepccentral.com

    ----

    It most certainly is a form of "system hardening".

    (Especially considering it's not just registry reconfigurations & such, but far more!)

    AND? Hey - It just works!

    (& in my P.S. below is another example of that & how/why)

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    "No amount of registry tweaking and software uninstallation can make Windows match up to the results from either of those projects." - by ion.simon.c (1183967) on Friday May 01, @08:57PM (#27794675)

    OH, I "beg to differ", & so does NASDAQ!

    (NASDAQ sees 99.999%/fabled "5-9's" of 'uptime' that Windows Server 2003 + SQLServer 2005 have achieved for NASDAQ (The world's largest electronically traded stock exchange & a very high "tpm" environs), since 2005, on the "industrial front", for nearly 5 yrs. now)

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    NASDAQ Migrates to SQL Server 2005:

    http://windowsfs.com/enews/nasdaq-migrates-to-sql-server-2005

    ----

    &, also see here ->

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    NASDAQ Performance Statistics

    http://www.nasdaqtrader.com/Trader.aspx?id=MarketShare

    "NASDAQ is renowned for its high performance technology and has proven reliability with 99.999+% uptime. Whats more, firms count on NASDAQ for unsurpassed speed and tested capacity to execute trades quickly and efficiently."

    APK

    P.S.=> Again, & I have noted this in other posts here?

    My buddy Jack (who has a "penchant for Pr0n" & the indiscriminate usage of javascript on EVERY site he visits (bad move, because today that is one of the MAIN "delivery/attack mechanisms" used in these things being put on others' machines)) went from literally getting 200++ malwares on his system per WEEK, down to MAYBE 1-2 a year &, the couple he gets, are a result of his use of javascript (& he knows + admits it)... after his application of my guide's steps.

    Thus, once more, via such an example, albeit again (like THRONKA's written results above) from an "end-user" this time (not NASDAQ's fine example on the industrial front)?

    It works! apk

    1. Re:Results users obtained say otherwise... apk by ion.simon.c · · Score: 1

      I'll have to disagree with you: It absolutely is [hardening]

      No.
      It's only recently that Vista SP2 got a single feature that's standard in real hardened systems. Go and see what Hardened Gentoo and Hardened Solaris do. (They do many, many, things that Windows can't match!) Your "hardening" guides are nothing of the sort. The bar was raised a long time ago, and it wasn't done by anything from Redmond.

    2. Re:Results users obtained say otherwise... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, it is ion.simon.c, & in fact?

      Here is a definition of "System Hardening" from a reputable source:

      SYSTEM HARDENING:

      http://www.procinct.com/services/hardening.html

      "System Hardening is the process of evaluating a company's security architecture and auditing the configuration of their systems in order to develop and deploy hardening procedures to secure their critical resources. These procedures are customized for each business, updated as threats evolve, and automated for easy deployment and auditing. Hardening systems is a defense strategy to protect against attacks by removing vulnerable and unnecessary services, patching security holes, and securing access controls."

      ----

      Here is yet another:

      SYSTEM HARDENING:

      http://www.itcoach.com/unsafe/System-Hardening.htm

      "System hardening is a step by step process of securely configuring a system to protect it against unauthorized access, while also taking steps to make the system more reliable. Generally anything that is done in the name of system hardening ensures the system is both secure and reliable."

      ----

      All of which my guide covers in 1 way, shape, or form (many times, for many things)

      APK

      P.S.=> Better luck next time ion.simian.c: You don't have the intelligence, skills, or experience to try to "school me", so give up already... apk

    3. Re:Results users obtained say otherwise... apk by ion.simon.c · · Score: 1

      Here is a definition of "System Hardening" from a reputable source:

      ...Hardening systems is a defense strategy to protect against attacks by removing vulnerable and unnecessary services, patching security holes, and securing access controls."

      Mmmhmm. You're not patching security holes or removing vulnerable services in your "guide". You're -manually- enforcing "Least Privilege" for running services. That is something that third-party vendors should *already* be doing out of the box. (IMO, you should never purchase software from a vendor that makes its services run as the SYSTEM user.)
      Also, you can't *secure* access controls in a Windows system. Access controls are an operating system level function. The only way that you can secure them is to harden the OS itself. Projects like grsecurity and SELinux do just that. There are no such projects in the Windows world.

      Here is yet another:

      "...Generally anything that is done in the name of system hardening ensures the system is both secure and reliable."

      Oh. Okay. I'll add a blackhole entry for doubleclick.net to my hosts file. Now my system is secure and reliable.

      Your definitions suck.

  124. Duh... by BancBoy · · Score: 1

    Computer security is the same way. You *can* cracl WPA(1/2) encryption, but if you neighbour has his connection open (or is using WEP), you are not likely to become a target.

    That's why I use MAC filtering instead of WEP or WPA(1/2). It's much more secure! ;)

    --
    [UID-HeinzIntel]
  125. WoooOOo Linux got an XP gui Skin by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    WoooOOo Sounds like Linux got an XP gui Skin.
    Maybe they should have skinned Unix instead. Then maybe it wouldn't be a sad 85% secure.. Closer to 100% perhaps?
    (Sarcastic-wise Speaking)

    BTW - In reply to TimeOday: nothing is 100% secure, if it appears to be so, its insecurities are actually just 100% unknown. ( For the moment )

  126. _______ by ion.simon.c · · Score: 1

    " DNS changes *Very* quickly." -

    That has NOTHING to do with an adbanner, bad adbanner, or bad website blocking custom HOSTS files!

    ...

    Right... Spammers and advert hosts can't use DNS to change the hostname that they use to host their crap with a moment's notice.

    (That was the main reason & purpose of noting them in my guide)...

    E.G./I.E.-> HOSTS files that use 0, 0.0.0.0, or 127.0.0.1 (no DNS server broadcasts those, mind you)

    Wait, what? You're telling me that IANA doesn't hand out IP addresses that are invalid or reserved for local use to Internet-facing hosts? You *don't* say!

    to block out known bad adbanners, bad websites, etc. et al!

    See my initial paragraph. Morever, you're doing the internet a disservice by spraying copypasta across the web. What happens when some spammer registers badnews.forumhost.com and starts spreading the worm du jour from it?
    How is some clueluess user going to find the very latest copy of the hosts file that you're distributing when you've put several hundred different revisions across several thousand different forums? Is he going to go on a vision quest to compare post dates to be sure that he has the very latest one? That's why I said this:

    There's a reason why most IT professionals prefer centralized installation systems over manually walking to each of the systems that they manage and installing each piece of software a machine at a time.

    I guess that I was too subtle for you. Would you recommend to your 3000-identical-Windows-machines-at-a-site clients that they install the latest .MSI of EnterpriseApp v4.0 by burning a disc, taking it to each computer -one at a time-, logging in with a root account, open Explorer, double click the .MSI, answer the installer's questions, wait for the installer to complete, and move on to the next machine?
    Your practice of distributing identical hosts files across dozens of forums is analogous to this inefficient system administration method. How do you plan to update all of those forum posts when a new advertising server starts up? Do you intend to leave stale copies of time-critical information up for clueless users to stumble across and use?

    Why don't you emulate the practices that you claim to preach? Set up a web site. Post your advice and wares there. Link to it in forums. When the situation on the Internet changes, you can react to it immediately and be the saviour of the internet, rather than one of those who is leading clueless users astray with reams of out-of-date information.

  127. Re:It's not about SPEED ion.simon.c (it's security by ion.simon.c · · Score: 1

    You can't answer my question, can you?
    What if I told you that not only have I not seen the "Windows is Getting Old" slow-down, I haven't had a malware infection, ever? [0]
    This is on a stock -fully patched- installation of Windows Server 2003 Enterprise. No fancy guides or tools are needed to achieve this result, it's attainable out of the box. Nothing more than plain-old user education is required.

    t's NOT about speed (though you WILL see more online, if you follow all/each of its points)...

    Heh. You you can install NoScript or use Google Chrome and immediately see more speed online. No fancy guide or tool required.

    [0] I posit that much of the "Windows is Getting Old" effect is directly related to malware installed on the system.

  128. Why... by kehren77 · · Score: 1

    Why couldn't they release this as Windows 7 instead of what they are releasing which is essentially Vista SP 3?

  129. I answered w/ the quoted result of others by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "You can't answer my question, can you?" - by ion.simon.c (1183967) on Saturday May 02, @02:32PM (#27799841)

    I did, via the results others have been experiencing, quoting them & providing a url to said quote, which is a lot more reliable than your personal "anecdotal experience"... because, if your method was always the case, then nearly no computer repair shops would be in business (& many spend large tracts of their days doing virus/spyware removals etc. et al).

    Sure, I can use "personal anecdotal experience" too, just like you, also:

    E.G.-> I also have had it this way for over 6++ yrs. straight on this system, no infestations whatsoever, & 4++ more on the system before it as well! That's A DECADE OF SOLID UNINFECTED UPTIME HERE... have you even been USING COMPUTERS THAT LONG?

    (That's ON TOP of my showing you users that for more than 1-2 yrs. now experiencing the same in my last post!)

    AND?

    Maybe you have experienced that no infections/infestations, maybe you have not... who knows?

    ----

    "Heh. You you can install NoScript or use Google Chrome and immediately see more speed online. No fancy guide or tool required." - by ion.simon.c (1183967) on Saturday May 02, @02:32PM (#27799841)

    I recommend that in my guide, but, I also tell others how it's done in other browsers AND I provide a HOSTS files that covers ALL/EVERY webbound program you have (unlike plugins/addons specific to a certain browser as well - though I do recommend SOME for layered security purposes).

    I never mentioned a "Windows is getting old" effect, so... no need to cover THAT, from you.

    APK

    P.S.=> Newsflash: Ion.SIMIAN.c, give up already - you weren't born w/ the intelligence to "get the better of me"... & I severely doubt you've accomplished 1/10th of what I have in it over the past 16++ yrs. as a paid professional in this field (ranging from network admin/engineer to programmer-analyst/software engineer)... apk

    1. Re:I answered w/ the quoted result of others by ion.simon.c · · Score: 1

      I'm glad to see that you're still dodging my question.

      That's A DECADE OF SOLID UNINFECTED UPTIME HERE... have you even been USING COMPUTERS THAT LONG?

      Yes, I have. I've been using computers since the Tandy 1000 TL. That one was produced in... 1986, 1987 or so.

      I recommend that in my guide, but, I also tell others how it's done in other browsers AND I provide a HOSTS files that covers ALL/EVERY webbound program you have

      Point me to a place in any of your forum postings where you say the equivalent of "See here for a hosts file that is not out of date.".

      I severely doubt you've accomplished 1/10th of what I have in it over the past 16++ yrs.

      You and I have already talked about your accomplishments. You've demonstrated none of the knowledge that you claim to have.

  130. Yes, I am right (thanks for agreeing) Ion.SIMIAN.c by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Right... " - by ion.simon.c (1183967) on Saturday May 02, @02:20PM (#27799759)

    Yes, I am, as-per-usual, especially when I showed you how often DNS servers get hacked (just recently in New Zealand last week, see below - would you like a few more of the same, in those types of evidences?)

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    Hackers hijack DNS records of high profile New Zealand sites

    April 21st, 2009

    http://blogs.zdnet.com/security/?p=3185

    ----

    I suggest you read that, again!

    (Mainly, because that is EXACTLY what "DNS Poisoning" is about - redirecting users to a bogus website for say, www.slashdot.org, to their site loaded with malscripted traps)

    Man - At this point? I strongly suspect you do NOT know what you are talking about (& are trying to "save face" here @ this point now, with double-talk b.s.!)

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    "How is some clueluess user going to find the very latest copy of the hosts file that you're distributing when you've put several hundred different revisions across several thousand different forums?" - by ion.simon.c (1183967) on Saturday May 02, @02:20PM (#27799759)

    There is only 1, & they email me for it (otherwise, they get an older one that is VERY tiny, no need to disable the DNS client either since it is small, & it's only for speed really, by blocking adbanners in that tiny older one)...

    I.E.-> My latest one is updated, daily, from numerous reputable sources (ZDNet's Dancho Danchev, StopBadware.org, SRI, & even Spybot "Search & Destroy" lists, to name only some of them)

    ----

    "Would you recommend to your 3000-identical-Windows-machines-at-a-site clients that they install the latest .MSI of EnterpriseApp v4.0 by burning a disc, taking it to each computer -one at a time-, logging in with a root account, open Explorer, double click the .MSI, answer the installer's questions, wait for the installer to complete, and move on to the next machine?" - by ion.simon.c (1183967) on Saturday May 02, @02:20PM (#27799759)

    Man, either YOU cannot read, or you don't understand what I noted last post:

    LOGON SCRIPTS can merge .reg files settings for reconfiguration, via batch .bat or .cmd files...

    OR

    Group Policies via AD distribution can do much of this as well, and for different areas/things!

    (Have you ever done anything of this nature as a network administrator or tech? Apparently not!)

    APK

    P.S.=>

    "you're doing the internet a disservice by spraying copypasta across the web." - by ion.simon.c (1183967) on Saturday May 02, @02:20PM (#27799759)

    This guy says QUITE otherwise, take a read (opinions vary, lol):

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    http://www.xtremepccentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=813d47fae9640bf0469914bb62faf019&t=28430&page=3

    "Its 2009 - still trouble free!

    I was told last week by a co worker who does active directory administration, and he said I was doing overkill.

    I told him yes, but I just eliminated the half life in windows that you usually get.

    He said good point.

    So from 2008 till 2009. No speed decreases, its been to a lan party, moved around in a move, and it still NEVER has had the OS reinstalled besides the fact I imaged the drive over in 2008.

    Great stuff!

    My client STILL Hasn't called me back in regards to that one machine to get it locked down for the kid. I am glad it worked and I am sure her wallet is appreciated too now that it works. Speaking of which, I need to call her to see if I can get some leads.

    APK - I will say it again, the guide is FANTASTIC! Its made my PC experience much easie

  131. Re:Yes, I am right (thanks for agreeing) Ion.SIMIA by ion.simon.c · · Score: 1

    Oh, hang on. You missed my previous post. Let me repeat it.

    Oh wait... rather than repeating my previous post and duplicating a lot of effort and wasting loads of my time, let me provide you with a link to a centralized location on the web that is already hosting this information.

    http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1219095&cid=27799759

  132. Re:"You have to join the Air Force to get it" = b. by ion.simon.c · · Score: 1

    Here's something for you to think about...

    I came by the parent comment via AlterSlash. This means that the comment you posted to was of sufficient quality to rise out of the background noise of the general /. commenting public.

    Noone but me has replied to your comments.
    None of your comments here have been up-modded.
    What does this say about the quality of your advice?

  133. Quit wasting my time, you're wrong, as usual... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Mmmhmm. You're not patching security holes or removing vulnerable services in your "guide"" - by ion.simon.c (1183967) on Saturday May 02, @05:52PM (#27801155)

    On services trimming? First of all, I wrote THE OLDEST/FIRST guides for NT-based OS online, back as far as 1998 & for NTCompatible.com as "ARTICLE #1" there (& entire sites sprung up from THAT idea, "Black Viper" anyone? Proof of that alone is from NEOWIN (Who also took my guide to their site in 2001, FROM NTCompatible.com, verbatim, here -> http://www.neowin.net/news/main/01/11/29/apk-a-to-z-internet-speedup--security-text )

    Secondly - My guide DOES tell people how to "cut off" vulnerable services (by patching)

    YOU obviously haven't read it... &, are clearly talking out your behind.

    ----

    "Also, you can't *secure* access controls in a Windows system. Access controls are an operating system level function" - by ion.simon.c (1183967) on Saturday May 02, @05:52PM (#27801155)

    Man, you really DO NOT KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, do you?

    The registry &/or filesystem have a very "fine-grained" native & built in "ACL" (access control lists) for both, by groups &/or users, & you can exploit/access/use them in regedit.exe + explorer.exe, quite easily (& my guide goes thru it, + how simple it is).

    "The only way that you can secure them is to harden the OS itself. Projects like grsecurity and SELinux do just that. There are no such projects in the Windows world." - by ion.simon.c (1183967) on Saturday May 02, @05:52PM (#27801155)

    Ugh, You've GOT to be kidding me w/ that statement above!

    AGAIN:

    NT ACL's COMES NATIVE TO NT-BASED OS', & beats the hell out of chmod *NIX normal permissions alone (& ACL's on NT-based OS & controlling them? Heh, also isn't "grafted on" as a "kernel hooking" system as is SeLinux or AppArmor for Linux by the by)...

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    "Your definitions suck." - by ion.simon.c (1183967) on Saturday May 02, @05:52PM (#27801155)

    They seemed to shut you up on what "security hardening" is defined as though, & this is the best you have vs. them... & they weren't even mine, another mistake on YOUR part!

    APK

    P.S.=> Keep it up Ion.SIMIAN.c - you're failing on each point you make, post by post, all the more... how much more can you take (lol, how much more CAN I, before I die laughing!)... apk

    1. Re:Quit wasting my time, you're wrong, as usual... by ion.simon.c · · Score: 1

      First of all, I wrote THE OLDEST/FIRST guides for NT-based OS online, back as far as 1998

      Prove it. Don't just quote from or link to some web page. Prove that you wrote it.

      Secondly - My guide DOES tell people how to "cut off" vulnerable services (by patching)

      Oh. I get it. You write guides for clueless users. The stuff that I do is for folks who really know what they're doing and want to take their skills to the next level. My bad.

      Also, you can't *secure* access controls in a Windows system. Access controls are an operating system level function

      Man, you really DO NOT KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT...

      I'm a programmer. You claim to be a sysadmin. I can see how you wouldn't understand what the phrase "securing access controls" would *really* mean. Imprecise language indicates the sloppy thinking of the speaker.

      Heh, also isn't "grafted on" as a "kernel hooking" system

      You have never looked at the way SeLinux or grsecurity actually function, have you? Check it out, you'd be amazed.

      [My copypasta] seemed to shut you up on what "security hardening" is defined as though...

      Heh. I can see that you are unable to comprehend any degree of subtlety. If I didn't know better, I'd say that you were illiterate and were speaking to me through an ESL intermediary.

      Lemmy link you to what I wrote again, so you can re-read it and mull over what I said.
      http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1219095&cid=27801155

  134. You're blind, dyslexic, or a troll (see inside) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Yes, I have. I've been using computers since the Tandy 1000 TL. That one was produced in... 1986, 1987 or so." - by ion.simon.c (1183967) on Saturday May 02, @05:43PM (#27801111)

    And, evidently NOT doing much with them either... &, you surely showed your behind about ACL's in NT-based OS in your other replies too (you messed up hugely, lol, give up already).

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    "Point me to a place in any of your forum postings where you say the equivalent of "See here for a hosts file that is not out of date." - by ion.simon.c (1183967) on Saturday May 02, @05:43PM (#27801111)

    Boy, you either have not read it, or are dyslexic... see here ->

    As I said before?

    My HOSTS file's updated from sources like:

    Stopbadware.org
    SRI
    SpyBot "S&D"
    Dancho Danchev ZDNet Blog
    PLUS - Other reputable HOSTS file shown on WIKIPEDIA's entry for HOSTS files

    AND, in my posts here I said that Folks can email me for a current one, & many do -> http://www.tcmagazine.com/forums/index.php?s=8b87fa331607ccbe8078215f389936c2&showtopic=2662&st=0&start=0

    (See post #6 there, dyslexic blind man)

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    "You and I have already talked about your accomplishments" - by ion.simon.c (1183967) on Saturday May 02, @05:43PM (#27801111)

    Yes, & you have NOTHING like them (lol, so much for your WASTING TIME on PC's, all these years), see below... again!

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    "You've demonstrated none of the knowledge that you claim to have." - by ion.simon.c (1183967) on Saturday May 02, @05:43PM (#27801111)

    Funny, these say otherwise (&, they carry a lot more "weight" than your mere unqualified opinion):

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    Windows NT Magazine (now Windows IT Pro) April 1997 "BACK OFFICE PERFORMANCE" issue, page 61

    (&, for work done for EEC Systems/SuperSpeed.com on PAID CONTRACT (writing portions of their SuperCache program increasing its performance by up to 40% via my work) albeit, for their SuperDisk & HOW TO APPLY IT, took them to a finalist position @ MS Tech Ed, two years in a row).

    WINDOWS MAGAZINE, 1997, "Top Freeware & Shareware of the Year" issue page 210, #1/first entry in fact (my work is there)

    PC-WELT FEB 1998 - page 84, again, my work is featured there

    WINDOWS MAGAZINE, WINTER 1998 - page 92, insert section, MUST HAVE WARES, my work is again, there

    PC-WELT FEB 1999 - page 83, again, my work is featured there

    CHIP Magazine 7/99 - page 100, my work is there

    GERMAN PC BOOK, Data Becker publisher "PC Aufrusten und Repairen" 2000, where my work is contained in it

    HOT SHAREWARE Numero 46 issue, pg. 54 (PC ware mag from Spain), 2001 my work is there, first one featured, yet again!

    Also, a British PC Mag in 2002 for many utilities I wrote, saw it @ BORDERS BOOKS but didn't buy it... by that point, I had moved onto other areas in this field besides coding only...

    Lastly, being paid for an article that made me money over @ PCPitstop in 2008 for writing up a guide that has people showing NO VIRUSES/SPYWARES & other screwups, via following its point, such as THRONKA sees here -> http://www.xtremepccentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=ee926d913b81bf6d63c3c7372fd2a24c&t=28430&page=3

    ----

    "Nuff said", except for the quote from Shelley's poem & the film, "The Watchmen", below... lol!

    P.S.=> "My name is Ozymandias, king of kings: Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!" ... apk

    1. Re:You're blind, dyslexic, or a troll (see inside) by ion.simon.c · · Score: 1

      ...you surely showed your behind about ACL's...

      You don't understand what the phrase "securing access controls" implies. See this post for my thoughts on the mis-understanding:
      http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1219095&cid=27803057

      Point me to a place in any of your forum postings where you say the equivalent of "See here for a hosts file that is not out of date."

      [Oh, but I did say this in my original posting!]

      Ah. You are correct.

      You and I have already talked about your accomplishments

      Yes, you have NOTHING like them

      You've demonstrated none of the knowledge that you claim to have.

      Funny, these say otherwise [Long list of links snippped]

      My challenge to you to prove that you've done any of that is here:
      http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1219095&cid=27803057

  135. "My Name is OZYMANDIAS", lol... again! apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Quoting you in my subject line above, & answering:

    "None of your comments here have been up-modded." - by ion.simon.c (1183967) on Saturday May 02, @06:09PM (#27801257)

    Oh no?

    How about nearly 100 times here on this website (ranging from +1 thru +5 max)

    (Pay attention to the 4's (top one) & 3's (top one & one a few below it about my guide))...

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    +5 'modded up' posts by "yours truly":

    http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=170545&cid=14210206

    http://hardware.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=175774&cid=14610147

    http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1139485&cid=26975021

    http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1139485&cid=26974507

    +4 'modded up' posts by "yours truly":

    http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=161862&cid=13531817

    http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=167071&cid=13931198

    +3 'modded up' posts by "yours truly":

    (LOOK @ THIS NEXT ONE BELOW, ION.simiAn.c, lol)

    http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=155172&cid=13007974

    http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=166850&cid=13914137

    http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=175857&cid=14615222

    http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=273931&threshold=1&commentsort=0&mode=thread&cid=20291847

    http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1021873&cid=25681261

    +2 'modded up' posts by "yours truly":

    (LOOK @ THIS ONE NEXT BELOW ALSO, ION.simiAn.C, lol)

    http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=158231&cid=13257227

    http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=158310&cid=13263898

    http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=158231&cid=13257227

    http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=290711&cid=20506147

    http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=245971&cid=19760473

    http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=416702&cid=22026982

    http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=174759&cid=14538593

    http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=233779&cid=19020329

    (THIS ONE NEXT BELOW IS ABOUT MY GUIDE, modded up, no less... lol, despite your b.s. it never gets "modded up")

    http://ask.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=970939&cid=25093275

    http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=978035&cid=25176955

    1. Re:"My Name is OZYMANDIAS", lol... again! apk by ion.simon.c · · Score: 1

      None of your comments here have been up-modded.

      Oh no?

      How about nearly 100 times here on this website

      Whoops. Lemmy correct myself:
      "None of your comments in this thread have been upmodded. Noone but me has replied to this thread. What does that say about your advice in this thread?"

  136. SeLinux added MAC to Linux, & MAC = NT ACL's by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Prove it. Don't just quote from or link to some web page. Prove that you wrote it." - by ion.simon.c (1183967) on Saturday May 02, @11:17PM (#27803057)

    WoW... you are BLIND, DYSLEXIC, or just stupid (or, trying to 'save face' here after all your blatant screwups anyone can read which I quoted, & CORRECTED YOU ON, all thru this exchange in my posts (since I quote points you were in error on)).

    A quote from that page will do it (you just skim, shoot your mouth off, & keep SHOOTING YOURSELF IN THE FOOT, lol, while sticking your foot IN YOUR MOUTH):

    ----

    http://www.neowin.net/news/main/01/11/29/apk-a-to-z-internet-speedup--security-text

    "This is quite a read, so print yourself a copy or download to your PDA, and be amazed at what you'll learn from this collection of information that APK has gathered and put in one place

    "You have never looked at the way SeLinux or grsecurity actually function, have you?" - by ion.simon.c (1183967) on Saturday May 02, @11:17PM (#27803057)

    Question is, have YOU?

    SeLinux was built in part, for example, to addon ACL's (THE VERY THING WE WERE DISCUSSING NO LESS) TO LINUX & you said nothing like that existed on NT-based OS' & I proved you wrong there easily... @ both the registry AND filesystems levels!

    PROOF?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selinux

    (Look up "Mandatory Access Control" there, it is the analog to NT-based OS' "ACL's")

    AND, again - That NT-based OS' have had NATIVELY @ the filesystem &/or registry level, for years since its inception in beta in 1992 & Linux had to have "grafted on" by the NSA, because they knew the value of that level of control...

    ----

    "I'm a programmer" - by ion.simon.c (1183967) on Saturday May 02, @11:17PM (#27803057)

    Again, apparently?

    YOU'RE NOT A VERY GOOD ONE!

    (that... OR, you just THINK you're a programmer)

    E.G.-> You try to "put me down" for the list of accomplishments I posted here again for you, when you try this... & yet YOU HAVE NONE LIKE THEM?

    Thus?

    I.E.-> Who are YOU, to put me down then?

    (You're clearly NOT my "superior" in this art & science by any means, because others would have noticed your skills &/or accomplishments by now, after 22+ yrs. on YOUR PART around these systems. Nobody has apparently, done this for you... gee, I "wonder why"? NOT)...

    Give me a break, give us ALL a break - if you're "SO GOOD" that you can put me down, one would think YOU HAVE DONE BETTER & COULD EVIDENCE IT!

    (Clearly you cannot, because YOU HAVE NOT, & thus? Aren't one to put me down!)

    APK

    P.S.=> KEEP IT UP, Ion.SIMIAN.c: You're ruining your own reputation here no doubt, by all the mistakes you are making... it's almost funny, but now that I realize I am NOT talking to a "seasoned pro" here (especially after all of your screwups here)? I am not even laughing anymore, @/by this point! apk

  137. SeLinux added MAC to Linux, which = NT ACL's by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "You don't understand what the phrase "securing access controls" implies" - by ion.simon.c (1183967) on Saturday May 02, @11:26PM (#27803103)

    YOU had best learn what MAC (mandatory access control) is on Linux, for 1 thing (& how it is just like NT-based ACL's (access control lists))...

    SeLinux was built in part, for example, to addon ACL's (THE VERY THING WE WERE DISCUSSING NO LESS) TO LINUX & you said nothing like that existed on NT-based OS' & I proved you wrong there easily... @ both the registry AND filesystems levels this exists on NT-based OS since their inception & part of how they obtain an "Orange Book" C2 level of security!

    PROOF?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selinux [wikipedia.org]

    (Look up "Mandatory Access Control" there, because they are the analog on Linux (SeLinux to be SPECIFIC) to NT-based OS' "ACL's")

    AND, again - That NT-based OS' have had NATIVELY @ the filesystem &/or registry level, for years since its inception in beta in 1992 & Linux had to have "grafted on" by the NSA, because they knew the value of that level of control, for purposes of security on an Operating System...

    ----

    "My challenge to you to prove that you've done any of that is here:
    http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1219095&cid=27803057 "
    - by ion.simon.c (1183967) on Saturday May 02, @11:26PM (#27803103)

    Yes, and I don't think you will LIKE the answer too much, as it is shown where I wrote that, when, & it is credited to ME (APK)... from nearly 13 yrs. ago in fact, on securing AND SPEEDING UP NT-based OS!

    Here it is, again, as PROOF (& my initials are there as usual):

    ----

    http://www.neowin.net/news/main/01/11/29/apk-a-to-z-internet-speedup--security-text [neowin.net]

    "This is quite a read, so print yourself a copy or download to your PDA, and be amazed at what you'll learn from this collection of information that APK has gathered and put in one place"

    ----

    (Man - you just skim, shoot your mouth off, & keep SHOOTING YOURSELF IN THE FOOT, lol, while sticking your foot IN YOUR MOUTH (picture that)):

    So - How's your foot (and the "bitter taste of defeat"), taste? Because that is around the 5th or 6th screwup you've made here by now...

    APK

    P.S.=>

    "Ah. You are correct." - by ion.simon.c (1183967) on Saturday May 02, @11:26PM (#27803103)

    Yes, & on every point I quote + CORRECT you on... every time - again, keep it up... it's YOUR rep here, not mine, that you're ruining man... apk

    1. Re:SeLinux added MAC to Linux, which = NT ACL's by ion.simon.c · · Score: 1

      YOU had best learn what MAC (mandatory access control) is on Linux, for 1 thing...

      You really like that copypasta.
      Addressed here:
      http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1219095&cid=27803693

      Yes, and I don't think you will LIKE the answer too much, as it is shown where I wrote that, when, & it is credited to ME (APK)...

      That's not proof. I can credit anything I like to APK. Is this all that you have to show me?

      "This is quite a read, so print yourself a copy or download to your PDA...

      Again with the copypasta! This is addressed here:
      http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1219095&cid=27803693

  138. Re:SeLinux added MAC to Linux, & MAC = NT ACL' by ion.simon.c · · Score: 1

    This is quite a read, so print yourself a copy or download to your PDA, and be amazed at what you'll learn from this collection of information that APK has gathered and put in one place

    That's not proof of anything. I don't have proof of your identity. On the Internet, noone knows that you're a dog. For all you know, I'm the brains behind every commenter on /. besides yourself.

    Question is, have YOU?

    SeLinux was built in part, for example, to addon ACL's

    Aye, I have. And aye, this is correct. The point in question is your lack of understanding of how SELinux interfaces with the Linux kernel.

    ...you said nothing like that [ACL's] existed on NT-based OS'...

    Prove it.

    You try to "put me down" for the list of accomplishments I posted here...

    Prove that you've accomplished any one of the AFK things that you claim.

    Ion.SIMIAN.c: You're ruining your own reputation

    From the looks of it, this thread is a wasteland. The only folks here are me and you, hoss. If you want an audience, go back to the amateur techie boards that you like to inhabit.

  139. Ozymandias: PART #3... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "None of your comments in this thread have been upmodded. Noone but me has replied to this thread. What does that say about your advice in this thread?" - by ion.simon.c (1183967) on Sunday May 03, @12:51AM (#27803601)

    No one decided to mod it up in this exchange is all... that happens!

    BUT, I can show how many WERE modded up here:

    ----

    http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=170545&cid=14210206 (+5, AND has proof of my knowing about SeLinux as well as its mechanics, from LONG ago no less)

    http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=416702&cid=22026982 (+3)

    http://ask.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=970939&cid=25093275 (+2)

    http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1135717&cid=26941781 (+2)

    http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1218837&cid=27787281 (+2)

    http://books.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=168931&cid=14083927 (+1)

    http://ask.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=970939&threshold=-1&commentsort=0&mode=thread&no_d2=1&cid=25092677 (+1)

    http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1027095&cid=25747655 (+1)

    http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1159209&cid=27178753 (+1)

    http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=267599&threshold=1&commentsort=0&mode=thread&cid=20203061

    ----

    AND, each post I was "modded up on" above?

    Is also STRICTLY in regards to my seucurity guide!

    (So, that all "said & aside"? What's what?? 10-to-1 odds in MY favor vs. your obviously flawed assumptions it never is here on this website... vs. this time my NOT being "modded up" for posting it???)

    That's Ok, I can live w/ that... & the proof that others from this forums found it "mod-up'able" also, many times.

    Also, my security guide, to date (since late 2008), also has these "stats" to its credit:

    1.) Over 250,000++ views to its credit over 20 forums in around 1 yr's time online now

    2.) As well as it being in the TOP VIEWED in forums that have existed for years TO DECADE++ on some no less & doing that number of views in such a relatively short time vs. other posts on those forums...

    3.) Then, my guide's nearly always being used by others too (such as NEOWIN as far back as the turn of the century)

    4.) My guide being rated VERY WELL, to the point of being made an:

    a. "essential guide"
    b. "Sticky/Pinned Thread"
    c. Being well rated by those that applied it (such as THRONKA from xtremepccentral.com I posted a couple times here now vs. your opinion (a numerously erroneous one here no less on your part)).

    (WANT PROOFS OF THOSE TOO? I can supply them, quite quickly...)

    ----

    "Whoops. Lemmy correct myself:" - by ion.simon.c (1183967) on Sunday May 03, @12:51AM (#27803601)

    LOL, to that? All I can hear now, is that 'whacked' song by the "Insane Clown Posse" called "How Many Times?"... because this has to be the 7th or 8th time now corrections have been issued on your part (twice from yourself, & around 7 times now f

    1. Re:Ozymandias: PART #3... apk by ion.simon.c · · Score: 1

      No one decided to mod it up in this exchange is all... that happens!

      Riiight. It's a wasteland in here. There's noone but you and me.

      http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=170545&cid=14210206 (+5, AND has proof of my knowing about SeLinux as well as its mechanics, from LONG ago no less)

      The link to your guide is a 404. All that your link to the NSA's SELinux page demonstrates is that you've heard of it. I would expect anyone who's been reading /. for four years to be able to demonstrate that knowledge.

      Is also STRICTLY in regards to my seucurity guide!

      The loose collection of quotes and advice from knowledgeable folks in the IT field that you call a "security guide" is redundant. I can achieve the same amount of security by installing Windows, keeping it up to date, and not running shady software.

      Also, my security guide, to date (since late 2008), also has these "stats" to its credit:

      1.) Over 250,000++ views to its credit

      How many of those views resulted in a spread of useful knowledge? How many of those views resulted in someone saying, "Oh. This is just copypasta from $SECURITY_DOOD's blog."?
      I know that I have contributed to the view count of many a shitty forum post just 'cause it had a good PageRank and the preview on Google kinda looked like it would answer my question.

      over 20 forums in around 1 yr's time online now

      This is part of the problem... it's the thing that I've been oh so subtly (and then oh so bluntly) telling you from the beginning.
      What happens when your security guide is out of date? Are you planning to leave all of that stale knowledge around to mis-inform yet another clueless user? Or is your time so worthless that you'll spend it updating the copypasta that you've spread to dozen (hundreds? thousands?) of forums?

      2.) As well as it being in the TOP VIEWED in forums that have existed for years TO DECADE++

      Rage3d.com has been around for a long time. So has Phoronix. Ars Technica has been around for a long time, too. I'm sure that you'll agree that duration and quality are often not correlated.

      3.) Then, my guide's nearly always being used by others too ...
      4) ... My guide being rated VERY WELL, to the point of being made an:
      a. "essential guide"
      b. "Sticky/Pinned Thread"
      c. Being well rated by those...

      I've seen a lot of absolute trash declared "essential" and stickied on many, many forums.

      (WANT PROOFS OF THOSE TOO? I can supply them, quite quickly...)

      Wait, what? Where have you proven anything? I don't know that you're not a dog.

  140. Ok, proof: SEE NEOWIN url inside... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "That's not proof of anything. I don't have proof of your identity" - by ion.simon.c (1183967) on Sunday May 03, @01:03AM (#27803693)

    Ok - ask the guys @ NEOWIN if I wrote that guide of mine they used, for starters!

    (AND, that's only my "first round prototype" of it, from more than a decade++ ago (1997), & even THEN, it can still get a user to 67/100 on CIS Tool test, & my current guide gets you to 85-99.058/100 on it)

    Specifically, in regards to here -> http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?s=8c871266023b7d58549d7d4a7fe23f12&showtopic=602537&st=90

    First post there, in fact (nobody denied it was me, they know it is - it's the 2nd time I've made a "good guide" status there, in 7++ yrs. time)...

    Fact is?

    That very post "shut them up", the 'naysayers' there, easily... just like the definitions of "security hardening" a system did here that I put up, to you earlier... TOO easy!

    ----

    - by ion.simon.c (1183967) on Sunday May 03, @01:03AM (#27803693)

    Funny - you've made SO many screwups here, I am finding enough "amateurs" (wannabe in your case, especially about the 'programmer' part on YOUR end stating that), easily enough, here on /. ... lol!

    (After all - Nobody in publication's ever noted YOU, apparently, because I posted 10 of those for ME, but you can't even put up 1... sad! AND, you have the nerve to try to give me crap? Unbelieveable!)

    AND:

    Why are you trying to make it seem as if it is NOT worth kicking your butt in for all you have said to me, that I have shown has been not only ERRONEOUS technically on your part, but also that in your "attempts to school me", you have made a TON of errors & had to 'correct yourself'?

    (What a crock THAT 'little trick' is, & it doesn't work, lol... you STILL end up being wrong, everytime!)

    APK

    P.S.=> You're not very skilled in this art & science imo, & based on your obvious lack of visible accomplishments in this field? I can only say that, & also based upon your NUMEROUS screwups here (lol, which you try to 'correct' for, after I CORRECT YOU on where you are wrong - give up already!)... you're not even good @ debate & proving points! apk

    1. Re:Ok, proof: SEE NEOWIN url inside... apk by ion.simon.c · · Score: 1

      Ok - ask the guys @ NEOWIN if I wrote that guide of mine they used, for starters!

      So, I ask them:
      "HAY, GUYS AT NEOWIN! There's a guy who claims to call himself APK, but I don't really know if he's one guy or a bunch. Really I don't know anything about him really, cause I can't get his IP. But even if I did get his IP, that wouldn't prove anything anyway due to NAT and maybe he was using a proxy. So anyway, NEOWIN guys, did this AC on slashdot write this guide that he claims is his?"

      Are you sure that I can check with them to verify that you are who you say you are?

      - by ion.simon.c (1183967) on Sunday May 03, @01:03AM (#27803693)

      Funny - you've made SO many screwups here

      What were you quoting, again?

      Why are you trying to make it seem as if it is NOT worth kicking your butt in...

      Are you implying that you want to physically harm me?

  141. Well, ask 'em @ NEOWIN, like I said before... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "That's not proof. I can credit anything I like to APK. Is this all that you have to show me?" - by ion.simon.c (1183967) on Sunday May 03, @01:12AM (#27803715)

    Ok - AGAIN: Ask the guys @ NEOWIN if I wrote that guide of mine they used, for starters!

    (AND, that's only my "first round prototype" of it, from more than a decade++ ago (1997), & even THEN, it can still get a user to 67/100 on CIS Tool test, & my current guide gets you to 85-99.058/100 on it)

    Specifically, in regards to here -> http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?s=8c871266023b7d58549d7d4a7fe23f12&showtopic=602537&st=90

    First post there, in fact!

    (Nobody denied it was me, least of all their mods or owners, & they know it is I (APK) - it's the 2nd time I've made a "good guide" status there, in 7++ yrs. time)...

    Fact is?

    That very post "shut them up", the 'naysayers' there, easily... just like the definitions of "security hardening" a system did here that I put up, to you earlier... TOO easy!

    (Who are you trying to fool @ this point? Yourself?? Must be, because the proof's there - & your WEAK little "argument" of "Prove it's YOU who wrote that" is in little question by the people who's forums it on!)

    APK

    P.S.=> Ion.SIMIAN.c = "Capt. Carnage" from "The Watchmen"... gotta be! You LIKE "getting punished", & lol, MAINLY by your own blatant mistakes here (the biggest one being trying to get the better of ME, in debate)...

    "That's not proof. I can credit anything I like to APK. Is this all that you have to show me?" - by ion.simon.c (1183967) on Sunday May 03, @01:12AM (#27803715)

    Well, lol, there WAS this post here (lol, part of my "Ozymnndias" series here vs. yourself (showing my accomplishments in noted respected publications in this art & science (of which you have NONE like them apparently, Mr. "wannabe programmer"))):

    http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1219095&cid=27803005

    AND THIS one from here also (lol, ALSO part of my "Ozymnndias" series here vs. yourself) :

    http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1219095&cid=27803307

    (And, the day you can do more OR BETTER YET, better? Then, you can talk as you have to myself... but, try not to make so many damned errors and be so arrogant as to only admit to a couple, and then try to WEAKLY "amend your statements" afterwards... give us a break!)... apk

  142. Re:Well, ask 'em @ NEOWIN, like I said before... a by ion.simon.c · · Score: 1

    Reread my second paragraph. You seem to have missed the point:

    http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1219095&cid=27803715

    Alternatively, check out my hypothetical query to the NEOWIN folks here for an amplification of my point:
    http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1219095&cid=27804009

    Ok - AGAIN: Ask the guys @ NEOWIN...

    Copypasta, he chooses you!
    Addressed here:
    http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1219095&cid=27804009

    (the biggest one being trying to get the better of ME, in debate)...

    This isn't a debate. You're determined to ignore any points made, avoid any pointed questions asked, and deflect any criticism with reams of copypasta declaring the unverifiable glories of some guys who like to call themselves "apk".
    I'm amusing myself on a lazy Saturday evening. What are you doing?

    (showing my accomplishments...

    Prove it. Prove that they were yours. Prove that you received some token -either a meatspace or cryptographically secure one will do- that proves that you are the author of all of the documents that you lay claim to, and that people who are not you have vouched for the documents' credibility, accuracy, and usefulness, replicate it, and show it to me.
    *That* is proof. Not quotes or links.

  143. Vista. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So the base I am stationed at is trying to upgrade to Vista, no one told them the minimum spec apparently.

  144. I've proven you go "off topic" for 1 thing, + why by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Wait, what? Where have you proven anything?" - by ion.simon.c (1183967) on Sunday May 03, @02:17AM (#27803987)

    I have proven that you cannot stay on topic for 1 thing @ this point... lol!

    (AND, that you made a TON of technical errors (2 of which you admitted to, others you tried to 'amend your statements' for, which fools NOBODY, lol) & more - like you are "on the ropes" on each point you attacked me on, & now have to go "off topic" about... lmao!)

    ----

    "I've seen a lot of absolute trash declared "essential" and stickied on many, many forums." - by ion.simon.c (1183967) on Sunday May 03, @02:17AM (#27803987)

    My guide, @ nearly 40,000 views on this site alone:

    ----

    HOW TO SECURE Windows 2000/XP/Server 2003, & even VISTA, + make it 'fun-to-do', via CIS Tool Guidance (&, beyond):

    http://www.tcmagazine.com/forums/index.php?s=6d4dad3766bad13b4da1d8b4ee539d09&showtopic=2662

    ----

    Isn't one of them.

    (Here in this exchange, to that effect - Hey, I've even pasted a user's testimony to that effect from numerous systems from friends, family, & paying clients even liking its results, for going on 2++ yrs. by now, w/ NO infestations/infections, whatsoever... not bad eh? IT WORKS - 1 to 2 hrs. of your time, for what is on a decade for myself experiencing the same!)

    I.E.-> AND, How can something that helps you get up to a 99.058/100 score on the multiplatform CIS Tool, AND go beyond it even to help secure a system be? Especially coming up from BOTH the Linux AND Windows 2000/XP/Server 2003 series of this OS defaulting @ 46/100 initially?

    (That's the QUANTIFIABLE IMPROVEMENT anyone can use & see no less there that is possible!)

    LOL - in the end?

    Yes, You've seen what you've "conveniently" seen, but strangely as-per-usual, also post NO proofs of...

    Hey- You've proven yourself no 'authority' in this field, nor even recognized in publication for anything around it (I have though @ least 10x)... who are you to judge anything really, above all else?

    ---

    "What happens when your security guide is out of date? " - by ion.simon.c (1183967) on Sunday May 03, @02:17AM (#27803987)

    It doesn't really: It's very specific to an OS family & what members fall under its wing: Windows NT-based OS'...

    AND?

    It's very generic/by principals, that extend to various applications even, & future OS' (just ways of doing things that help, use patterns & settings et al).

    (PLUS, I can edit the places where it's on mostly still (some not, but most I can).

    APK

    P.S.=> Anyone can read from HERE on down -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1219095&cid=27792899 and see my quotes of YOUR replies & their errors I correct repeatedly throughout this exchange, as proof of your screwups, & in each of my posts - lol, and you now 'scrambling' to go offtopic and failing to disprove points I disproved yours with all thru this exchange: "TOO Easy"... apk

  145. 2 can play that game, Ion.SIMIAN.c (& I'll win by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Oh, hang on. You missed my previous post. Let me repeat it." - by ion.simon.c (1183967) on Saturday May 02, @05:57PM (#27801185)

    See subject-line above, & this URL, again:

    http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1219095&cid=27800951

    (As well as the rest of my reply below, in the 'P.S.' section)

    APK

    P.S.=> And, YOU had the nerve to say this:

    "You really like that copypasta." - by ion.simon.c (1183967) on Sunday May 03, @01:12AM (#27803715)

    There? Give us a break already...

    I.E.-> YOU'RE DOING THE SAME THING IN THE POST THAT'S PARENT TO MY REPLY HERE NOW, in COPY/PASTE WORK... lol!

    (I mean - Talk about the 'pot calling the kettle black')...

    URA TROLL... apk

  146. Re:2 can play that game, Ion.SIMIAN.c (& I'll by ion.simon.c · · Score: 1

    Hooray! A dead thread! I win! :D
    Now, on to the others.

  147. Re:I've proven you go "off topic" for 1 thing, + w by ion.simon.c · · Score: 1

    I have proven that you cannot stay on topic for 1 thing @ this point... lol!

    Very well.
    Here are my currently unanswered questions. Once they have been answered, I will address the rest of your points.

    Why do I have a secure and performant Windows system, when all I had to do was apply offical Microsoft patches?
    Why do you spray copypasta across forums rather than host it in a central location that's easy to manage and update?
    What, in your mind, constitutes proof of ownership?
    What, in your mind, constitutes proof of identity?
    How does your opinion on these two things compare with the high-level design of current implementations computerized authorization and resource control schemes?
    What would the consequences of designing such schemes to use your level of proof of ownershit and identity be?
    How do current implementations of SELinux interface with the Linux kernel? Be specific. Cite only from credible, verifiable sources. Descriptions of grsecurity's interface to the Linux kernel will be accepted in lieu of information about SELinux.
    How do current implementations of NTFS's ACL interface with the Windows NT kernel? Be specific. Cite only from credible, verifiable sources. Descriptions of either Windows Vista or Windows XP SP3 will be accepted.

  148. You've proved yourself an OFFTOPIC TROLL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject line: Rinse, Lather, & Repeat... for best results!

    Well, along w/ this link -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1219095&cid=27804267

    (Where I prove you are off topic)

    HEY - you win the prize: You're an "OFF TOPIC TROLL" ontop of being incorrect on many points in this exchange (hosts files anyone, to name one? Want more??)

    APK

    P.S.->

    "I'm amusing myself on a lazy Saturday evening. What are you doing?" - by ion.simon.c (1183967) on Sunday May 03, @02:36AM (#27804053)

    LOL!

    I'm feeding a way off topic troll, in yourself!

    (You're, as usual, predictable with faults & scrambling to 'save face' (don't like this? Quit while you're behind, this is your 2nd time @ me here now, & it only ends up with you with egg on your face, lol, mainly w/ techincal errors regarding this field)).

    You're a troll, rotflmao, who is now & for many posts now, so off topic he is asking ME to prove I am ME... hilarious!

    PROVE SOME THINGS TO ME FOR ONCE! You know, like Can YOU prove there is a God?

    That's for starters... See, I'd like just 1 proof from you, for once!

    (There is no qustion I provide links, quotes, & other things from very reputable sources to back myself up, everytime almost & as far as publications? I have those in my room as I speak on a bookshelf, staring @ them (books, mags, newpapers, Cd-Rom distros & more my works have been on in the arena of computer sciences))

    LOL, I provide proofs, whereas you do not (& cannot evidently) as to your expertise in this field... I do so, first, in order to bring YOU, lol, to THIS low level you are @... Pure manipulation!

    (That only happens though, each time you do this directed my way, only after making you look the fool on all of your technical errors here though - I don't think you understand - this is AMUSING to me... huge fun, albeit, @ YOUR expense (you bring it on yourself, everytime, attacking my posts here))

    (OH yea those errors of yours? Pretty huge, & many, which I corrected you on thru this exchange, and you admitted 2, & then tried to avoid the other 7-8 by now I have you in, lmao, by your trying to 'amend your statements' - give us a break, troll!)

    Above all else - Hey: See everyone? I now have a "new troll" on /., aren't I priveleged? apk

  149. From my first post down, I answered all questions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    From my first post down, I answered all questions

    http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1219095&cid=27804393

    See my subject-line above, & this URL (because unlike you? I provide proofs & answer questions):

    http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1219095&cid=27792899

    (And you had to correct youself 2x thru it, lol, + try to 'amend your questions', after other screwups on technical issues here you made (how lame, it never works, & fools no one), and I did another 10 corrections of your errors (numerous) throughout the exchange here, by now... merely easily showing you the error of your ways).

    APK

    P.S.=> Anyone is free to read from that post downwards in this exchange & decide for themselves to my last statement + subject line... & in regards to this statement from you?

    "Very well." - by ion.simon.c (1183967) on Sunday May 03, @04:08AM (#27804393)

    That's the 1 thing you haven't done... apk

  150. You're an off-topic /. TROLL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Hooray! A dead thread! I win! :D Now, on to the others." - by ion.simon.c (1183967) on Sunday May 03, @04:00AM (#27804359)

    Grow up.

    (And quit being such a troll)

    APK

  151. Grow up you OFF TOPIC /. Troll... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Are you sure that I can check with them to verify that you are who you say you are?" - by ion.simon.c (1183967) on Sunday May 03, @04:00AM (#27804359)

    Grow up, & quit being such a troll. When you are "on the ropes", you start asking stupid questions to 'stall' or otherwise troll others, just as you did here as well in this thread to others who proved you wrong -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1219095&cid=27796177

    APK

    P.S.-> Anyone here reading is free to read from my 1st post here -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1219095&cid=27792899 onwards, & make their own decisions on anything going on here &, whom has gotten the better of whom, in this exchange (like your blatant screwups on numerous technical topics & your lastly having to go "off topic" as you have, & more importantly, why)... apk

  152. Your last 'stalling trolling questions' answered by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Q.)

    "How do current implementations of SELinux interface with the Linux kernel? Be specific. Cite only from credible, verifiable sources. Descriptions of grsecurity's interface to the Linux kernel will be accepted in lieu of information about SELinux." - by ion.simon.c (1183967) on Sunday May 03, @04:08AM (#27804393)

    A.) http://209.85.173.132/search?q=cache:dmPDdpPh_Q0J:research.microsoft.com/en-us/um/people/wdcui/papers/hookmap-raid08.pdf+%22SeLinux%22+and+%22kernel+hook%22&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

    Search the term "SeLinux" there... you'll see the tracing dump I speak of next below:

    (There, YOU can see that MS themselves step-trace debugged SeLinux & the Kernel hooking methods I stated are indeed, in effect, in SeLinux)

    I'm always specific, & I provide backing links that back my points (HOSTS files, DNS Servers, login scripts useability in migrating security settings alongside Group Policy tools in Windows, & now SeLinux kernel hooking anyone? There are more in this exchange I have caught you in, in errors, by far, but... those'll do, for now!)

    ----

    Q.)

    "How does your opinion on these two things compare with the high-level design of current implementations computerized authorization and resource control schemes?" - by ion.simon.c (1183967) on Sunday May 03, @04:08AM (#27804393)

    ?

    A.) NT ACL = SeLinux MAC

    (I said that before, please: Take your alheimers/dementia/senility meds...)

    ----

    Q.)

    "Why do I have a secure and performant Windows system, when all I had to do was apply offical Microsoft patches?" - by ion.simon.c (1183967) on Sunday May 03, @04:08AM (#27804393)

    A.) Not sure - However? Did I ever say it was "out of the question" in that happening for users either?

    (ESPECIALLY if you only visit a small number of websites (that are trustworthy, & have decent owners/mods/webmasters policing them for malware) plus, actually do practice points I made in my security guide (such as email in text form only, not downloading every little app there is, or clicking on a "YOU HAVE A VIRUS: CLICK OK TO DOWNLOAD AND INSTALL 'SuperDuper AntiSpyware/AntiVirus' now", because not once have I stated that good use practices/patterns do NOT matter here, not once... & in my guide I say that in essence on many topics for safety online, today... especially today & for around 6++ yrs. now)

    ----

    Q.)

    "Why do you spray copypasta across forums rather than host it in a central location that's easy to manage and update?" - by ion.simon.c (1183967) on Sunday May 03, @04:08AM (#27804393)

    A.) Why not, first of all... Secondly, the people that NEED the stuff in my guide, are "amateur forums users" as you put them down in calling them that (especially considering how many errors I have caught you in here in yourself, 2 you admitted to, & about another 10 by now I had corrected you on (to which you tried to 'amend your questions to' later, in trying to 'save face' here with doing that (as well as your asking questions that are silly 1/2 the time, off topic for sure like this one is, & just obviously stalls for time OR to try 'bury this post').

    You're tactics don't fool anyone... you have a PATTERN of this, & I saw it in your post history (the downside of being an 'almighty registered user' here is that - I.E.-> You're VERY easily tracked!)

    ----

    Q.)

    "How do current implementations of NTFS's ACL interface with the Windows NT kernel? Be specific. Cite only from credible, verifiable sources.

  153. Re:Your last 'stalling trolling questions' answere by ion.simon.c · · Score: 1

    [ "Answer" to "Why do you consider your time to be worthless?" ]

    This answer is insufficient. Try again.

    [Your "what is proof of ownership?" question is] OFF TOPIC

    This is directly related to computer security. Re-read the first "paragraph" of this post that is enclosed in double quotes.

    [Your "what is proof of identity?" question is] OFF TOPIC

    See my previous statement.

    How does your opinion on these two things compare with the high-level design of current implementations computerized authorization and resource control schemes?

    ?

    A.) NT ACL = SeLinux MAC

    (I said that before, please: Take your alheimers/dementia/senility meds...)

    ----

    I've left this one in in its entirety to demonstrate how taking things out of context can lead to incorrect results. You answered the wrong question. Try again.

    [Your "What are the implications of your idea of auth and trust on security schemes?" question is] OFF TOPIC

    See my previous responses to your previous "...OFF TOPIC" remarks.

    [ "Answer" to "How does SELinux work?" ]

    You were asked to be specific. A cursory examination of Table 2 on Page 13 reveals two things:
    * All SELinux syscalls are glommed into an entry called "selinux ops".
    * EXT 3 Filesystem operations are classified as "kernel hooks".
    The linked paper is insufficiently specific. You would have done better by selecting the second result returned by Google for your search phrase.
    Try again. (It is suggested to the supplicant that he begin his search by downloading a recent kernel source package and examining the file "src/security/security.c".)

    [ "Answer" to "How are ACLs implemented in recent versions of Windows?" ]

    This is the opposite of specificity. Try again.

    You managed to pretty much answer one question!

    Here are my currently unanswered questions:
    Why do you spray copypasta across forums rather than host it in a central location that's easy to manage and update?
    What, in your mind, constitutes proof of ownership?
    What, in your mind, constitutes proof of identity?
    How does your opinion on these two things compare with the high-level design of current implementations computerized authorization and resource control schemes?
    What would the consequences of designing such schemes to use your level of proof of ownership and identity be?
    How do current implementations of SELinux interface with the Linux kernel? Be specific. Cite only from credible, verifiable sources. Descriptions of grsecurity's interface to the Linux kernel will be accepted in lieu of information about SELinux.
    How do current implementations of NTFS's ACL interface with the Windows NT kernel? Be specific. Cite only from credible, verifiable sources. Descriptions of either Windows Vista or Windows XP SP3 will be accepted.

  154. Your questions were answered: Go away now troll by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject-line above, & this URL (for the only answers that matter here):

    http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1219095&cid=27806379

    (I answered your questions there & that is that!)

    There, lol, I also show where & how you are wrong in this thread also... especially about SeLinux, because I stated it used "kernel hooks" (kernel patching) to achieve an ACL-like function (MAC) on a Linux rig, via SeLinux (proof of kernel hooking calls on Linux are there on that page).

    As my nephew put it? You're SO arrogant, & thought you knew this stuff, & I have shown you do not, @ least not well and at every turn now vs. your trolling attacks!

    I.E. -> You can't handle you are WRONG @ every turn here, & are trying to "troll me" (you don't seem to realize this is your 2nd "pounding" you've taken @ my hands here (& each time, you have brought it on yourself)).

    APK

    P.S.=> Go away now, little troll! Do something of note or worth with a computer, instead of trolling others... apk

    1. Re:Your questions were answered: Go away now troll by ion.simon.c · · Score: 1

      I also show where & how you are wrong in this thread also... especially about SeLinux, because I stated it used "kernel hooks" (kernel patching)

      You said more than that. From here:

      (& ACL's on NT-based OS & controlling them? Heh, also isn't "grafted on" as a "kernel hooking" system as is SeLinux or AppArmor for Linux by the by)

      My currently unanswered questions are listed at the end of this post:
      http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1219095&cid=27809231

    2. Re:Your questions were answered: Go away now troll by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1219095&cid=27806379

      Learn to read, as I covered it's MAC vs. ACL & how it is implemented via kernel hooks well enough per your quoted questions there.

      APK

      P.S.=> Want more? Talk to the NSA on SeLinux. Go away, little troll, lol... apk

    3. Re:Your questions were answered: Go away now troll by ion.simon.c · · Score: 1

      Learn to read, as I covered it's MAC vs. ACL...

      From the comment:

      A.) NT ACL = SeLinux MAC
      (I said that before, please: Take your alheimers/dementia/senility meds...)

      Um... this doesn't explain anything.
      Are you sure that you know anything about IT or computer security? Even a clueless college sophomore would be able to look up the answers to my questions in four or five hours. You've had twelve. What's wrong?

      My unanswered questions are here:
      http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1219095&cid=27809231

  155. Look them up yourself then, or read URL I put up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Even a clueless college sophomore would be able to look up the answers to my questions in four or five hours." - by ion.simon.c (1183967) on Sunday May 03, @06:05PM (#27809645)

    Then, go look them up yourself! I answered ALL questions you had, to your dismay (on DNS servers, HOSTS files, NT registry + filesystem ACL's & where you erred stating "windows has nothing like SeLinux" (it always DID in ACL's))

    PLUS, how ACL's on NT-based OS' are like SeLinux MAC, & how SeLinux is implemented via kernel hooking/patching!

    (Heck - the URL I posted you for proof of my being correct from MS states much on this, as far as details, & IF you want THAT LEVEL OF DETAIL? I won't "retype it" here, so, just read it, or again, see my last post (posting its content below for you again))

    APK

    P.S.=> Your answers, as detailed from myself as is necessary (w/ out writing a book), are here:

    http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1219095&cid=27806379

    Learn to read, as I covered it's MAC vs. ACL & how it is implemented via kernel hooks well enough per your quoted questions there.

    Again - Want more? Talk to the NSA on SeLinux. Go away, little troll, lol... apk

  156. Re:Look them up yourself then, or read URL I put u by ion.simon.c · · Score: 1
  157. Copy & Paste Troll? YOU Lose, lol... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Your answers, as detailed from myself as is necessary have been answered. See here:

    http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1219095&cid=27806379

    (Learn to read!)

    I covered SeLinux's MAC vs. ACL & how it is implemented via kernel hooks (well enough per your quoted questions there) + throughout this thread I have shown you in error about HOSTS files, DNS servers, Windows NT-based OS' having what Linux didn't (not without the kernel hook SeLinux distros)).

    (w/ out my 'writing a book' like the url next which has much about kernel hooking & how it works (since SeLinux is shown to use the methods I noted in kernel hooking EXACTLY with trace debug dump proof no less on that page of it), here -> http://209.85.173.132/search?q=cache:dmPDdpPh_Q0J:research.microsoft.com/en-us/um/people/wdcui/papers/hookmap-raid08.pdf+%22SeLinux%22+and+%22kernel+hook%22&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us because I am NOT going to rewrite that much info)

    Again - Want more? Talk to the NSA on SeLinux, or, read that url above...

    APK

    P.S.=> Go away, little troll, lol... apk

    1. Re:Copy & Paste Troll? YOU Lose, lol... apk by ion.simon.c · · Score: 1

      Examine Table 2 of that document.
      It is insufficiently detailed.

      Moreover:
      You claim to have proved things during our conversation.
      The only skill you've demonstrated is the ability to copy and paste.
      This makes you, at best, a script kiddie. At worst, it makes you -in your words- "a user".

  158. Y O U L O S E: Accept it gracefully @ least! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Your answers, as detailed from myself as is necessary have been answered. See here:

    http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1219095&cid=27806379 [slashdot.org]

    Learn to read!

    I covered SeLinux's MAC vs. ACL & how it is implemented via kernel hooks (well enough per your quoted questions there) + throughout this thread I have shown you in error about HOSTS files, DNS Servers, login scripts useability in migrating security settings alongside Group Policy tools in Windows, & now SeLinux kernel hooking anyone, as regards Windows NT-based OS' having what Linux didn't (not without the kernel hook SeLinux distros)).

    (w/ out my 'writing a book' like the url next which has much about kernel hooking & how it works (since SeLinux is shown to use the methods I noted in kernel hooking EXACTLY with trace debug dump proof no less on that page of it), here -> http://209.85.173.132/search?q=cache:dmPDdpPh_Q0J:research.microsoft.com/en-us/um/people/wdcui/papers/hookmap-raid08.pdf+%22SeLinux%22+and+%22kernel+hook%22&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us because I am NOT going to rewrite that much info)

    Again - Want more? Talk to the NSA on SeLinux, or, read that url above...

    APK

    P.S.=> Go away, little troll, & anybody is free to read this exchange, end-to-end, & to determine whom got the better of whom thru it... apk

  159. Re:Y O U L O S E: Accept it gracefully @ least! by ion.simon.c · · Score: 1

    Copypasta! He chooses you!

    You're lazy. You appear to be ignorant.
    You claim technological knowledge. I ask pointed technological questions. You refuse to answer them.
    Self-inflicted transcription errors cause you to forget what question you were replying to and respond incorrectly.

    You don't sound like an expert. You don't act like a professional. Just what *do* you do when you're not spreading your copypasta on internet forums?

    Oh, wait. Don't bother answering that. Your version of proof is inadequate for even the most basic of authentication schemes.

  160. Y O U L O S E: Accept it gracefully & calm dow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Your answers, as detailed from myself as is necessary have been answered. See here:

    http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1219095&cid=27806379 [slashdot.org]

    Learn to read!

    I covered SeLinux's MAC vs. ACL & how it is implemented via kernel hooks (well enough per your quoted questions there) + throughout this thread I have shown you in error about HOSTS files, DNS Servers, login scripts useability in migrating security settings alongside Group Policy tools in Windows, & now SeLinux kernel hooking anyone, as regards Windows NT-based OS' having what Linux didn't (not without the kernel hook SeLinux distros)).

    (w/ out my 'writing a book' like the url next which has much about kernel hooking & how it works (since SeLinux is shown to use the methods I noted in kernel hooking EXACTLY with trace debug dump proof no less on that page of it), here -> http://209.85.173.132/search?q=cache:dmPDdpPh_Q0J:research.microsoft.com/en-us/um/people/wdcui/papers/hookmap-raid08.pdf+%22SeLinux%22+and+%22kernel+hook%22&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us because I am NOT going to rewrite that much info)

    Again - Want more? Talk to the NSA on SeLinux, or, read that url above...

    APK

    P.S.=> Go away, little troll, lol... & "maintain your dignity", accept your defeat you brought on yourself here in trying to attack me, gracefully @ least! apk

  161. Re:Y O U L O S E: Accept it gracefully @ least! by ion.simon.c · · Score: 1

    So, have I tired you out yet?
    Why don't you answer my questions? There are two to which you have provided *no* answer to. There are four of which you have provided an insufficient answer. There is one which you provided a completely incorrect answer.

    Each one of these questions is something that any college sophomore could answer. You claim that you're a professional. Prove it. Answer these questions. (Two of them are open-ended questions. They ask for your opinion. How much easier could it get?)

    Here is a direct link to a post that contains the remaining questions. Good luck.
    http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1219095&cid=27809231

  162. Re:Y O U L O S E: Accept it gracefully & calm by ion.simon.c · · Score: 1

    Wow, more copypasta.

    *chuckles* There's this rule in chess... if you're down to your king, and you move between the same two spaces three times in a row, your opponent wins.

    This is the third time in a row that you've posted the same ignorant garbage.

  163. Re:Y O U L O S E: & your questions were answer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Your answers, as detailed from myself as is necessary have been answered. See here:

    http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1219095&cid=27806379 [slashdot.org]

    Learn to read!

    I covered SeLinux's MAC vs. ACL & how it is implemented via kernel hooks (well enough per your quoted questions there) + throughout this thread I have shown you in error about HOSTS files, DNS Servers, login scripts useability in migrating security settings alongside Group Policy tools in Windows, & now SeLinux kernel hooking anyone, as regards Windows NT-based OS' having what Linux didn't (not without the kernel hook SeLinux distros)).

    (w/ out my 'writing a book' like the url next which has much about kernel hooking & how it works (since SeLinux is shown to use the methods I noted in kernel hooking EXACTLY with trace debug dump proof no less on that page of it), here -> http://209.85.173.132/search?q=cache:dmPDdpPh_Q0J:research.microsoft.com/en-us/um/people/wdcui/papers/hookmap-raid08.pdf+%22SeLinux%22+and+%22kernel+hook%22&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us because I am NOT going to rewrite that much info)

    Again - Want more? Talk to the NSA on SeLinux, or, read that url above...

    APK

    P.S.=> Go away troll, lol... apk

  164. The day you have done all this? THEN, talk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "You claim that you're a professional. Prove it" - by ion.simon.c (1183967) on Sunday May 03, @08:52PM (#27811101)

    Well:

    The day you can appear in respected publications and widely recognized contests in this field (Ms Tech-Ed), or have commercially sold application code to your credit? (as I have on each of those grounds in this art & science)?

    ----

    Windows NT Magazine (now Windows IT Pro) pril 1997 "BACK OFFICE PERFORMANCE" issue, page 61

    (&, for work done for EEC Systems/SuperSpeed.com on PAID CONTRACT (writing portions of their SuperCache program increasing its performance by up to 40% via my work) albeit, for their SuperDisk & HOW TO APPLY IT, took them to a finalist position @ MS Tech Ed, two years in a row).

    WINDOWS MAGAZINE, 1997, "Top Freeware & Shareware of the Year" issue page 210, #1/first entry in fact (my work is there)

    PC-WELT FEB 1998 - page 84, again, my work is featured there

    WINDOWS MAGAZINE, WINTER 1998 - page 92, insert section, MUST HAVE WARES, my work is again, there

    PC-WELT FEB 1999 - page 83, again, my work is featured there

    CHIP Magazine 7/99 - page 100, my work is there

    GERMAN PC BOOK, Data Becker publisher "PC Aufrusten und Repairen" 2000, where my work is contained in it

    HOT SHAREWARE Numero 46 issue, pg. 54 (PC ware mag from Spain), 2001 my work is there, first one featured, yet again!

    Also, a British PC Mag in 2002 for many utilities I wrote, saw it @ BORDERS BOOKS but didn't buy it... by that point, I had moved onto other areas in this field besides coding only...

    Lastly, being paid for an article that made me money over @ PCPitstop in 2008 for writing up a guide that has people showing NO VIRUSES/SPYWARES & other screwups, via following its point, such as THRONKA sees here -> http://www.xtremepccentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=ee926d913b81bf6d63c3c7372fd2a24c&t=28430&page=3

    ----

    OR, even these many "mod ups" here on YOUR postings Ion.SIMIAN.c?

    ----

    +5 'modded up' posts by "yours truly":

    http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=170545&cid=14210206

    http://hardware.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=175774&cid=14610147

    http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1139485&cid=26975021

    http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1139485&cid=26974507

    ----

    +4 'modded up' posts by "yours truly":

    http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=161862&cid=13531817

    http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=167071&cid=13931198

    ----

    +3 'modded up' posts by "yours truly":

    (LOOK @ THIS NEXT ONE BELOW, lol)

    http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=155172&cid=13007974

    http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=166850&cid=13914137

    http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=175857&cid=14615222

    http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=273931&threshold=1&commentsort=0&mode=thread&cid=

    1. Re:The day you have done all this? THEN, talk by ion.simon.c · · Score: 1

      Prove that you are the same person that wrote those published articles, then we'll talk.

  165. Re:Y O U L O S E: & your questions were answer by ion.simon.c · · Score: 1

    Hey, look!
    It's that copypasta again.

    You must be tired. Tired and ignorant.

    You're thread's not stickied on xtremepccentral, btw. Why is that? It's not stickied over on Ars, either. Why is that? :)

  166. "My Name is Ozymandias. Look upon my works" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "You claim that you're a professional. Prove it" - by ion.simon.c (1183967) on Sunday May 03, @08:52PM (#27811101)

    I've answered ALL of your questions (the ones that matter, & I did so, w/ out writing out a book to do so), here -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1219095&cid=27806379

    HOWEVER - You by way of comparison, screwed up on several points throughout this exchange, shown by your erroneous points I quoted no less in my replies, such as:

    1.) HOSTS files -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1219095&cid=27803005
    2.) DNS Servers -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1219095&cid=27803627
    3.) Logon scripts & Group Policies usage -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1219095&cid=27800951
    4.) SeLinx being implemented via kernel hooking/kernel patching -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1219095&cid=27806379
    5.) Services patching &/or cutoffs for security -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1219095&cid=27802917
    6.) What the definition of "System Hardening" is -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1219095&cid=27800687

    (AND, more that you were incorrect on, but that list will do!)

    ----

    Also, as far as the quote of yours I put up above initially?

    The day you have appeared this many times in reputable printed publications in this art & science, + have commercially sold application code to your credit, as I have here:

    ----

    Windows NT Magazine (now Windows IT Pro) pril 1997 "BACK OFFICE PERFORMANCE" issue, page 61

    (&, for work done for EEC Systems/SuperSpeed.com on PAID CONTRACT (writing portions of their SuperCache program increasing its performance by up to 40% via my work) albeit, for their SuperDisk & HOW TO APPLY IT, took them to a finalist position @ MS Tech Ed, two years in a row).

    WINDOWS MAGAZINE, 1997, "Top Freeware & Shareware of the Year" issue page 210, #1/first entry in fact (my work is there)

    PC-WELT FEB 1998 - page 84, again, my work is featured there

    WINDOWS MAGAZINE, WINTER 1998 - page 92, insert section, MUST HAVE WARES, my work is again, there

    PC-WELT FEB 1999 - page 83, again, my work is featured there

    CHIP Magazine 7/99 - page 100, my work is there

    GERMAN PC BOOK, Data Becker publisher "PC Aufrusten und Repairen" 2000, where my work is contained in it

    HOT SHAREWARE Numero 46 issue, pg. 54 (PC ware mag from Spain), 2001 my work is there, first one featured, yet again!

    Also, a British PC Mag in 2002 for many utilities I wrote, saw it @ BORDERS BOOKS but didn't buy it... by that point, I had moved onto other areas in this field besides coding only...

    Lastly, being paid for an article that made me money over @ PCPitstop in 2008 for writing up a guide that has people showing NO VIRUSES/SPYWARES & other screwups, via following its point, such as THRONKA sees here -> http://www.xtremepccentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=ee926d913b81bf6d63c3c7372fd2a24c&t=28430&page=3

    ----

    OR, even something as simple as this many "mod ups" here, as I have:

    ----

    +5 'modded up' posts by "yours truly":

    http

    1. Re:"My Name is Ozymandias. Look upon my works" by ion.simon.c · · Score: 1

      You haven't answered the three most important questions of mine.
      Here's a link back to them:
      http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1219095&cid=27809231

      Here's a link back to my comments on your claims of credibility:
      http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1219095&cid=27812945

      Also, have you ever read the Shelley poem that you're quoting? If you have, you really should re-read it. If you do understand what Shelley was getting at, your continued quotation of it is all the more inappropriate, given the context.

  167. Arstechnica? Home of Jeremy Reimer the FAKE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "You're thread's not stickied on xtremepccentral, btw. Why is that? It's not stickied over on Ars, either. Why is that? :)" - by ion.simon.c (1183967) on Monday May 04, @02:18AM (#27812855)

    Can't get that EVERY place, but, I have on these websites:

    http://www.tcmagazine.com/forums/index.php?s=ab63b5c5b7b51bde1ed34c6db909d3a7&act=SF&f=87&st=0&changefilters=1
    http://forum.soft32.com/windows/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewforum&f=26&start=0
    http://forums.guru3d.com/forumdisplay.php?s=c90357a670c55c225331de7ca6e1d8a2&f=27&page=1&pp=25&sort=views&order=desc&daysprune=-1
    http://forums.tweaktown.com/f34/?pp=20&sort=views&order=desc&daysprune=-1
    http://www.proprofs.com/forums/index.php?s=abcd398e654a2bb1de0042564186ceeb&showforum=135

    (AND, on many others, it is in their most viewed, or "essential guides" sections...)

    ---

    "It's not stickied over on Ars, either. Why is that? :)" - by ion.simon.c (1183967) on Monday May 04, @02:18AM (#27812855)

    LOL, Arstechnica: The "private playpen" of Jeremy Reimer, the no degree in computer sciences, no certifications in computer sciences, & no years to decades of actual hands-on experience in the trenches in this art & science?

    No thank you.

    (I wouldn't associate myself w/ they by ANY means - they were caught impersonating myself on their forums, caught email harassing myself by their ISP's, & had law enforcement summoned upon them for it no less, and lastly they were caught impersonating others (via posting as them & admitting to it no less after being caught doing so @ Windows IT Pro magazine forums, no less, publicly to their humiliation worldwide))

    See here -> http://windowsitpro.com/article/articleid/41095/the-memory-optimization-hoax.html

    In regards to Arstechnica & Jeremy Reimer the blatant FAKE.

    ----

    "You claim that you're a professional. Prove it" - by ion.simon.c (1183967) on Sunday May 03, @08:52PM (#27811101)

    I've answered ALL of your questions (the ones that matter, & I did so, w/ out writing out a book to do so), here -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1219095&cid=27806379

    HOWEVER - You by way of comparison, screwed up on several points throughout this exchange, shown by your erroneous points I quoted no less in my replies, such as:

    1.) HOSTS files -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1219095&cid=27803005
    2.) DNS Servers -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1219095&cid=27798027
    3.) Logon scripts & Group Policies usage -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1219095&cid=27800951
    4.) SeLinux being implemented via kernel hooking/kernel patching -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1219095

    1. Re:Arstechnica? Home of Jeremy Reimer the FAKE by ion.simon.c · · Score: 1

      Wow, more copypasta.

      How do I know that you are who you say you are?

    2. Re:Arstechnica? Home of Jeremy Reimer the FAKE by ion.simon.c · · Score: 1

      Also, show me a copy of your conversations with law enforcement. If you tell me that you don't have any, I know that you are a liar.

    3. Re:Arstechnica? Home of Jeremy Reimer the FAKE by ion.simon.c · · Score: 1

      Also, why have you not answered my questions?

      http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1219095&cid=27809231

  168. Ask Jeremy Reimer the FAKE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "How do I know that you are who you say you are?" - by ion.simon.c (1183967) on Monday May 04, @03:16AM (#27813099)

    LOL, ask Jeremy Reimer, he is from your fav. site there, arstechnica (they KNOW who I am, much to their own dismay here -> http://windowsitpro.com/article/articleid/41095/the-memory-optimization-hoax.html )

    &

    "Also, show me a copy of your conversations with law enforcement. If you tell me that you don't have any, I know that you are a liar." - by ion.simon.c (1183967) on Monday May 04, @03:18AM (#27813101)

    All you need is @ the URL from Windows IT Pro (including discussions from email w/ the police + Reimer's ISP/BSP)

    ----

    "You're thread's not stickied on xtremepccentral, btw. Why is that? It's not stickied over on Ars, either. Why is that? :)" - by ion.simon.c (1183967) on Monday May 04, @02:18AM (#27812855)

    Can't get that EVERY place, but, I have on these websites:

    http://www.tcmagazine.com/forums/index.php?s=ab63b5c5b7b51bde1ed34c6db909d3a7&act=SF&f=87&st=0&changefilters=1
    http://forum.soft32.com/windows/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewforum&f=26&start=0
    http://forums.guru3d.com/forumdisplay.php?s=c90357a670c55c225331de7ca6e1d8a2&f=27&page=1&pp=25&sort=views&order=desc&daysprune=-1
    http://forums.tweaktown.com/f34/?pp=20&sort=views&order=desc&daysprune=-1
    http://www.proprofs.com/forums/index.php?s=abcd398e654a2bb1de0042564186ceeb&showforum=135

    (AND, on many others, it is in their most viewed, or "essential guides" sections...)

    ---

    "It's not stickied over on Ars, either. Why is that? :)" - by ion.simon.c (1183967) on Monday May 04, @02:18AM (#27812855)

    LOL, Arstechnica: The "private playpen" of Jeremy Reimer, the no degree in computer sciences, no certifications in computer sciences, & no years to decades of actual hands-on experience in the trenches in this art & science?

    No thank you.

    (I wouldn't associate myself w/ they by ANY means - they were caught impersonating myself on their forums, caught email harassing myself by their ISP's, & had law enforcement summoned upon them for it no less, and lastly they were caught impersonating others (via posting as them & admitting to it no less after being caught doing so @ Windows IT Pro magazine forums, no less, publicly to their humiliation worldwide))

    See here -> http://windowsitpro.com/article/articleid/41095/the-memory-optimization-hoax.html

    In regards to Arstechnica & Jeremy Reimer the blatant FAKE.

    ----

    "You claim that you're a professional. Prove it" - by ion.simon.c (1183967) on Sunday May 03, @08:52PM (#27811101)

    I've answered ALL of your questions (the ones that matter, & I did so, w/ out writing out a book to do so), here -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1219095&cid=27806379

    HOWEVER - You by way of comparison, screwe

    1. Re:Ask Jeremy Reimer the FAKE by ion.simon.c · · Score: 1

      Hey, it's more copypasta.
      Your copypasta/new content ratio is really high.

      Also, show me a copy of your conversations with law enforcement.

      All you need is @ the URL from Windows IT Pro...

      That link leads me to an article by the Sysinternals guy. That article is behind a paywall. This isn't a police report.

      A) You're a liar. I've interfaced with the police and have friends in the force. The action that you claim to have taken results in paper documentation.
      B) Are you claiming to be Mr. Russinovich?

      Why haven't you answered my questions?
      http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1219095&cid=27809231
      Also, did you read Shelley's poem, yet?

  169. All questions answered including Arstechnica ones by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "How do I know that you are who you say you are?" - by ion.simon.c (1183967) on Monday May 04, @03:16AM (#27813099)

    LOL, ask Jeremy Reimer, he is from your fav. site there, arstechnica (they KNOW who I am, much to their own dismay here -> http://windowsitpro.com/article/articleid/41095/the-memory-optimization-hoax.html )

    &

    "Also, show me a copy of your conversations with law enforcement. If you tell me that you don't have any, I know that you are a liar." - by ion.simon.c (1183967) on Monday May 04, @03:18AM (#27813101)

    All you need is @ the URL from Windows IT Pro (including discussions from email w/ the police + Reimer's ISP/BSP)

    ----

    "You're thread's not stickied on xtremepccentral, btw. Why is that? It's not stickied over on Ars, either. Why is that? :)" - by ion.simon.c (1183967) on Monday May 04, @02:18AM (#27812855)

    Can't get that EVERY place, but, I have on these websites:

    http://www.tcmagazine.com/forums/index.php?s=ab63b5c5b7b51bde1ed34c6db909d3a7&act=SF&f=87&st=0&changefilters=1
    http://forum.soft32.com/windows/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewforum&f=26&start=0
    http://forums.guru3d.com/forumdisplay.php?s=c90357a670c55c225331de7ca6e1d8a2&f=27&page=1&pp=25&sort=views&order=desc&daysprune=-1
    http://forums.tweaktown.com/f34/?pp=20&sort=views&order=desc&daysprune=-1
    http://www.proprofs.com/forums/index.php?s=abcd398e654a2bb1de0042564186ceeb&showforum=135

    (AND, on many others, it is in their most viewed, or "essential guides" sections...)

    ---

    "It's not stickied over on Ars, either. Why is that? :)" - by ion.simon.c (1183967) on Monday May 04, @02:18AM (#27812855)

    LOL, Arstechnica: The "private playpen" of Jeremy Reimer, the no degree in computer sciences, no certifications in computer sciences, & no years to decades of actual hands-on experience in the trenches in this art & science?

    No thank you.

    (I wouldn't associate myself w/ they by ANY means - they were caught impersonating myself on their forums, caught email harassing myself by their ISP's, & had law enforcement summoned upon them for it no less, and lastly they were caught impersonating others (via posting as them & admitting to it no less after being caught doing so @ Windows IT Pro magazine forums, no less, publicly to their humiliation worldwide))

    See here -> http://windowsitpro.com/article/articleid/41095/the-memory-optimization-hoax.html

    In regards to Arstechnica & Jeremy Reimer the blatant FAKE.

    ----

    "You claim that you're a professional. Prove it" - by ion.simon.c (1183967) on Sunday May 03, @08:52PM (#27811101)

    I've answered ALL of your questions (the ones that matter, & I did so, w/ out writing out a book to do so), here -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1219095&cid=27806379

    HOWEVER - You by way of comparison, screwe

  170. Ah, you can't afford a membership? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "How do I know that you are who you say you are?" - by ion.simon.c (1183967) on Monday May 04, @03:16AM (#27813099)

    LOL, ask Jeremy Reimer, he is from your fav. site there, arstechnica (they KNOW who I am, much to their own dismay here -> http://windowsitpro.com/article/articleid/41095/the-memory-optimization-hoax.html )

    &

    "Also, show me a copy of your conversations with law enforcement. If you tell me that you don't have any, I know that you are a liar." - by ion.simon.c (1183967) on Monday May 04, @03:18AM (#27813101)

    All you need is @ the URL from Windows IT Pro (including discussions from email w/ the police + Reimer's ISP/BSP)

    ----

    "You're thread's not stickied on xtremepccentral, btw. Why is that? It's not stickied over on Ars, either. Why is that? :)" - by ion.simon.c (1183967) on Monday May 04, @02:18AM (#27812855)

    Can't get that EVERY place, but, I have on these websites:

    http://www.tcmagazine.com/forums/index.php?s=ab63b5c5b7b51bde1ed34c6db909d3a7&act=SF&f=87&st=0&changefilters=1
    http://forum.soft32.com/windows/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewforum&f=26&start=0
    http://forums.guru3d.com/forumdisplay.php?s=c90357a670c55c225331de7ca6e1d8a2&f=27&page=1&pp=25&sort=views&order=desc&daysprune=-1
    http://forums.tweaktown.com/f34/?pp=20&sort=views&order=desc&daysprune=-1
    http://www.proprofs.com/forums/index.php?s=abcd398e654a2bb1de0042564186ceeb&showforum=135

    (AND, on many others, it is in their most viewed, or "essential guides" sections...)

    ---

    "It's not stickied over on Ars, either. Why is that? :)" - by ion.simon.c (1183967) on Monday May 04, @02:18AM (#27812855)

    LOL, Arstechnica: The "private playpen" of Jeremy Reimer, the no degree in computer sciences, no certifications in computer sciences, & no years to decades of actual hands-on PROFESSIONAL experience in the trenches in this art & science?

    No thank you.

    (I wouldn't associate myself w/ they by ANY means - they were caught impersonating myself on their forums, caught email harassing myself by their ISP's, & had law enforcement summoned upon them for it no less, and lastly they were caught impersonating others (via posting as them & admitting to it no less after being caught doing so @ Windows IT Pro magazine forums, no less, publicly to their humiliation worldwide))

    See here -> http://windowsitpro.com/article/articleid/41095/the-memory-optimization-hoax.html

    In regards to Arstechnica & Jeremy Reimer the blatant FAKE.

    ----

    "You claim that you're a professional. Prove it" - by ion.simon.c (1183967) on Sunday May 03, @08:52PM (#27811101)

    I've answered ALL of your questions (the ones that matter, & I did so, w/ out writing out a book to do so), here -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1219095&cid=27806379

    HOWEVER - You by way of compa

    1. Re:Ah, you can't afford a membership? by ion.simon.c · · Score: 1

      More copypasta?
      Seriously? I guess that when your opponent has nothing left than to scream obscenities at the top of his lungs, then you have bested him in conversation.

      Top notch. APK's copypasta is 100% the best that I have ever read. A+++, would read again.

      I'mma head to bed. I'll reply more in the evening.

      You could at least answer the two questions of mine that ask you for your opinion. I'm sure that it wouldn't take more than 30 seconds of your time.
      http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1219095&cid=27809231

  171. Re:All questions answered including Arstechnica on by ion.simon.c · · Score: 1

    This is character-for-character identical to the post here:
    http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1219095&cid=27813171

    You even duplicated your typos. Good job. Keep increasing that ratio!

  172. Re:All questions answered including Arstechnica on by ion.simon.c · · Score: 1

    Also, you didn't even read what you were replying to.
    Are you this thoughtful and careful when you give advice to new and/or clueless users?

    And, why haven't you answered my outstanding questions?
    http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1219095&cid=27809231

  173. Down goes Ion.SimiAn.c, folding under pressure! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "How do I know that you are who you say you are?" - by ion.simon.c (1183967) on Monday May 04, @03:16AM (#27813099)

    LOL, ask Jeremy Reimer, he is from your fav. site there, arstechnica (they KNOW who I am, much to their own dismay here -> http://windowsitpro.com/article/articleid/41095/the-memory-optimization-hoax.html )

    &

    "Also, show me a copy of your conversations with law enforcement. If you tell me that you don't have any, I know that you are a liar." - by ion.simon.c (1183967) on Monday May 04, @03:18AM (#27813101)

    All you need is @ the URL from Windows IT Pro (including discussions from email w/ the police + Reimer's ISP/BSP) & as far as your question from w/ in this exchange to myself of "Are you Dr. Russinovich"?

    NO, I never said I was - We'd both done paid work for a couple of the same companies @ the same time in the mid to late 1990's in this field & that how I know he, in addition to helping him find AND FIX problems in his applications, but I am not he, I am myself. One would think you'd realize that.

    ----

    "You're thread's not stickied on xtremepccentral, btw. Why is that? It's not stickied over on Ars, either. Why is that? :)" - by ion.simon.c (1183967) on Monday May 04, @02:18AM (#27812855)

    Can't get that EVERY place, but, I have on these websites:

    http://www.tcmagazine.com/forums/index.php?s=ab63b5c5b7b51bde1ed34c6db909d3a7&act=SF&f=87&st=0&changefilters=1
    http://forum.soft32.com/windows/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewforum&f=26&start=0
    http://forums.guru3d.com/forumdisplay.php?s=c90357a670c55c225331de7ca6e1d8a2&f=27&page=1&pp=25&sort=views&order=desc&daysprune=-1
    http://forums.tweaktown.com/f34/?pp=20&sort=views&order=desc&daysprune=-1
    http://www.proprofs.com/forums/index.php?s=abcd398e654a2bb1de0042564186ceeb&showforum=135

    (AND, on many others, it is in their most viewed, or "essential guides" sections... which is by far, more than YOU have shown you have done, for comparison's sake!)

    ---

    "It's not stickied over on Ars, either. Why is that? :)" - by ion.simon.c (1183967) on Monday May 04, @02:18AM (#27812855)

    LOL, Arstechnica: The "private playpen" of Jeremy Reimer (the no degree in computer sciences, no certifications in computer sciences, & no years to decades of actual hands-on PROFESSIONAL experience in the trenches in this art & science)?

    No thank you.

    (I wouldn't associate myself w/ they by ANY means - they were caught impersonating myself on their forums, caught email harassing myself by their ISP's, & had law enforcement summoned upon them for it no less, and lastly they were caught impersonating others (via posting as them & admitting to it no less after being caught doing so @ Windows IT Pro magazine forums, no less, publicly to their humiliation worldwide))

    See here -> http://windowsitpro.com/article/articleid/41095/the-memory-optimization-hoax.html

    In regards to Arstechnica & Jeremy Reimer the blatan

    1. Re:Down goes Ion.SimiAn.c, folding under pressure! by ion.simon.c · · Score: 1

      When did I say that Ars was my favourite site?
      Quote me.
      If you can't, then you're jumping to conclusions, again.

      Also, you're quoting that Shelley poem here, but not in your later responses. I assume that this means that you actually went and read it? Perhaps you discovered the lesson that we learn from comparing Ozymandias's words to the state of his works: all great human accomplishment is folly. Great buildings crumble. Great works are forgotten.
      Ozymandias wished for the reader of his words to despair when he compared the greatness of Oz's accomplishments to his own. Oz wished the reader to feel small and powerless before Oz's greatness. Yet, with the passage of time, Oz's words are now ironically appropriate. The reader has a different cause to despair, as he knows that he will suffer the same fate as Oz. Nothing that he can do will prevent the obliteration of his own works and -ultimately- himself.

      Not exactly what you wanted to say about the accomplishments you are claiming as your own, was it?

  174. Ion.SimiAn.c, the troll, folding under pressure? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "How do I know that you are who you say you are?" - by ion.simon.c (1183967) on Monday May 04, @03:16AM (#27813099)

    LOL, ask Jeremy Reimer, he is from your fav. site there, arstechnica (they KNOW who I am, much to their own dismay here -> http://windowsitpro.com/article/articleid/41095/the-memory-optimization-hoax.html )

    &

    "Also, show me a copy of your conversations with law enforcement. If you tell me that you don't have any, I know that you are a liar." - by ion.simon.c (1183967) on Monday May 04, @03:18AM (#27813101)

    All you need is @ the URL from Windows IT Pro (including discussions from email w/ the police + Reimer's ISP/BSP) & as far as your question from w/ in this exchange to myself of "Are you Dr. Russinovich"?

    NO, I never said I was - We'd both done paid work for a couple of the same companies @ the same time in the mid to late 1990's in this field & that how I know he, in addition to helping him find AND FIX problems in his applications, but I am not he, I am myself. One would think you'd realize that.

    ----

    "You're thread's not stickied on xtremepccentral, btw. Why is that? It's not stickied over on Ars, either. Why is that? :)" - by ion.simon.c (1183967) on Monday May 04, @02:18AM (#27812855)

    Can't get that EVERY place, but, I have on these websites:

    http://www.tcmagazine.com/forums/index.php?s=ab63b5c5b7b51bde1ed34c6db909d3a7&act=SF&f=87&st=0&changefilters=1
    http://forum.soft32.com/windows/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewforum&f=26&start=0
    http://forums.guru3d.com/forumdisplay.php?s=c90357a670c55c225331de7ca6e1d8a2&f=27&page=1&pp=25&sort=views&order=desc&daysprune=-1
    http://forums.tweaktown.com/f34/?pp=20&sort=views&order=desc&daysprune=-1
    http://www.proprofs.com/forums/index.php?s=abcd398e654a2bb1de0042564186ceeb&showforum=135

    (AND, on many others, it is in their most viewed, or "essential guides" sections... which is by far, more than YOU have shown you have done, for comparison's sake!)

    ---

    "It's not stickied over on Ars, either. Why is that? :)" - by ion.simon.c (1183967) on Monday May 04, @02:18AM (#27812855)

    LOL, Arstechnica: The "private playpen" of Jeremy Reimer (the no degree in computer sciences, no certifications in computer sciences, & no years to decades of actual hands-on PROFESSIONAL experience in the trenches in this art & science)?

    No thank you.

    (I wouldn't associate myself w/ they by ANY means - they were caught impersonating myself on their forums, caught email harassing myself by their ISP's, & had law enforcement summoned upon them for it no less, and lastly they were caught impersonating others (via posting as them & admitting to it no less after being caught doing so @ Windows IT Pro magazine forums, no less, publicly to their humiliation worldwide))

    See here -> http://windowsitpro.com/article/articleid/41095/the-memory-optimization-hoax.html

    In regards to Arstechnica & Jeremy Reimer the blatan

  175. Ion.SimiAn.c, master troll, folds under pressure! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "How do I know that you are who you say you are?" - by ion.simon.c (1183967) on Monday May 04, @03:16AM (#27813099)

    LOL, ask Jeremy Reimer, he is from your fav. site there, arstechnica (they KNOW who I am, much to their own dismay here -> http://windowsitpro.com/article/articleid/41095/the-memory-optimization-hoax.html )

    &

    "Also, show me a copy of your conversations with law enforcement. If you tell me that you don't have any, I know that you are a liar." - by ion.simon.c (1183967) on Monday May 04, @03:18AM (#27813101)

    All you need is @ the URL from Windows IT Pro (including discussions from email w/ the police + Reimer's ISP/BSP) & as far as your question from w/ in this exchange to myself of "Are you Dr. Russinovich"?

    NO, I never said I was - We'd both done paid work for a couple of the same companies @ the same time in the mid to late 1990's in this field & that how I know he, in addition to my helping him find AND FIX problems in his applications (never the reverse though), but I am not he, I am myself. One would think you'd realize that.

    ----

    "You're thread's not stickied on xtremepccentral, btw. Why is that? It's not stickied over on Ars, either. Why is that? :)" - by ion.simon.c (1183967) on Monday May 04, @02:18AM (#27812855)

    Can't get that EVERY place, but, I have on these websites:

    http://www.tcmagazine.com/forums/index.php?s=ab63b5c5b7b51bde1ed34c6db909d3a7&act=SF&f=87&st=0&changefilters=1
    http://forum.soft32.com/windows/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewforum&f=26&start=0
    http://forums.guru3d.com/forumdisplay.php?s=c90357a670c55c225331de7ca6e1d8a2&f=27&page=1&pp=25&sort=views&order=desc&daysprune=-1
    http://forums.tweaktown.com/f34/?pp=20&sort=views&order=desc&daysprune=-1
    http://www.proprofs.com/forums/index.php?s=abcd398e654a2bb1de0042564186ceeb&showforum=135

    (AND, on many others, it is in their most viewed, or "essential guides" sections... which is by far, more than YOU have shown you have done, for comparison's sake!)

    ---

    "It's not stickied over on Ars, either. Why is that? :)" - by ion.simon.c (1183967) on Monday May 04, @02:18AM (#27812855)

    LOL, Arstechnica: The "private playpen" of Jeremy Reimer (the no degree in computer sciences, no certifications in computer sciences, & no years to decades of actual hands-on PROFESSIONAL experience in the trenches in this art & science)?

    No thank you.

    (I wouldn't associate myself w/ they by ANY means - they were caught impersonating myself on their forums, caught email harassing myself by their ISP's, & had law enforcement summoned upon them for it no less, and lastly they were caught impersonating others (via posting as them & admitting to it no less after being caught doing so @ Windows IT Pro magazine forums, no less, publicly to their humiliation worldwide))

    See here -> http://windowsitpro.com/article/articleid/41095/the-memory-optimization-hoax.html

    In regards to Arstechnica

  176. Hypocrite (pot calling the kettle black again?) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Hey, it's more copypasta." - by ion.simon.c (1183967) on Monday May 04, @03:48AM (#27813229)

    And, you don't? B.S., & the proof of that's below, so "see subject-line above" (you hypocrite), because here is you doing it yourself:

    http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1219095&cid=27809817

    That's only once, of many times YOU have through this exchange (your typical trolling 'pot calling the kettle black').

    ----

    "Your copypasta/new content ratio is really high."" - by ion.simon.c (1183967) on Monday May 04, @03:48AM (#27813229)

    See above, dimwit... being a trolling hypocrite that can't even recall himself doing it also seems to be your specialty.

    APK

    P.S.=> Give up already, like I said before: YOU don't possess the intellect, skill, or experience to get the better of the likes of ME... apk

    1. Re:Hypocrite (pot calling the kettle black again?) by ion.simon.c · · Score: 1

      Is the the traditional form of SMB password handling secure or insecure? Why or why not?

      Or, if you don't care to answer that question, answer this one:

      If I walk up to your computer and enter the phrase "I am APK", or perhaps, "APK", will it let me into your files?
      If not, why not? :)

      Why haven't you answered the rest of my questions? Why do I have to explain them to you as I would to a two-year-old child? Why do the unified diffs of my recent comments always indicate changed lines, where yours almost always show no added or removed lines?
      You do know what a unified diff is, right?

    2. Re:Hypocrite (pot calling the kettle black again?) by ion.simon.c · · Score: 1

      How is your comment to this blog entry on-topic?
      http://blogs.msdn.com/e7/archive/2009/02/09/recognizing-improvements-in-windows-7-handwriting.aspx

      The blog entry talks about the Windows handwriting system.
      Your comment talks about changes to HOSTS file handling.

      Also, you haven't replied to any of my new posts, and have not answered my outstanding questions. What's the deal?

  177. Hypocrite (pot calling the kettle black?) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "more copypasta."by ion.simon.c (1183967) on Monday May 04, @03:58AM (#27813263)

    And, you don't? B.S., & the proof of that's below, for the 2nd time now... So again, "see subject-line above" (you hypocrite), because here is you doing it yourself:

    http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1219095&cid=27809817

    That's only once, of many times YOU have through this exchange (your typical trolling 'pot calling the kettle black').

    You're just being a trolling hypocrite that can't even recall himself doing it also, & that seems to be your specialty: Having a dim brain!

    APK

    P.S.=> Give up already, like I said before: YOU don't possess the intellect, skill, or experience to get the better of the likes of ME... apk

    1. Re:Hypocrite (pot calling the kettle black?) by ion.simon.c · · Score: 1

      *chuckles*

      Do you behave like this on the forums that you haunt when someone disagrees with you? What do you do when someone asks you questions that you're utterly unable to answer? Do you throw these copypasta tantrums? How do the mods deal with this?
      What would happen if I asked the user registered as APK on the various forums that you've advertised over the past couple of days whether he was the same person as you? Would he deny responsibility for the writings in this thread?

    2. Re:Hypocrite (pot calling the kettle black?) by ion.simon.c · · Score: 1

      I've already "gotten the better" of you. I did this the very first time that I closed a thread with you. Remember when I decided to spend three minutes with google and found your tantrums at Ars? Remember how they lead me to many of the other forums where you pitched a fit?

      From what I can see, your only "contribution" to the internet is a collation of advice from experts in the field. Much of this advice has already been encapsulated into automated tools such as spybot and adaware, rendering your collection of it useless.

      Where are your bug reports?
      Where are your vuln reports?
      Where are your software projects?
      Where are you interfacing with other knowledgeable sysadmins to increase your skills?

      Also, why haven't you answered my questions? Do I need to rephrase them to make them even easier for you to understand?
      Here's a link to them. I'm sure that you'll have a hard time finding them in this mess of a thread.
      http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1219095&cid=27809231

  178. Re:Ion.SimiAn.c, the troll, folding under pressure by ion.simon.c · · Score: 1

    Google failed to find any offical mention of your work with Russinovich.
    I've emailed Mr. Russinovich to figure out what work that you've done with him, and to see what his professional opinion is of the person that you claim to be.
    Would you care to provide me with an email address so's I can send you a copy of the conversation?

  179. Re:Ion.SimiAn.c, master troll, folds under pressur by ion.simon.c · · Score: 1

    Hey, look. MOAR copypasta.
    Have you run out of things to say? Did you run out of ideas a decade ago?

  180. Re:Ion.SimiAn.c, the troll, folding under pressure by ion.simon.c · · Score: 1

    Are you sure that you know what the various types of Windows ACL's are?
    http://forums.techpowerup.com/archive/index.php/t-25428.html

  181. Re:Ion.SimiAn.c, master troll, folds under pressur by ion.simon.c · · Score: 1

    I've been looking more closely at what you did over at Ars.

    You made 157 posts with a single nick in two days? Seriously?

  182. Your questions were answered by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "You're thread's not stickied on xtremepccentral, btw. Why is that? It's not stickied over on Ars, either. Why is that? :)" - by ion.simon.c (1183967) on Monday May 04, @02:18AM (#27812855)

    I don't believe they do that, & I can't get that EVERY place I imagine though I'd like to!

    (However, my guide IS rated "5/5 stars" there, AND is in the top 2 most viewed of all time @ that website within the forums section it is featured on)...

    NOW, for what You're asking for now? Well, it has done so in becoming an "Essential Guide", & on these websites:

    http://www.tcmagazine.com/forums/index.php?s=ab63b5c5b7b51bde1ed34c6db909d3a7&act=SF&f=87&st=0&changefilters=1
    http://forum.soft32.com/windows/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewforum&f=26&start=0
    http://forums.guru3d.com/forumdisplay.php?s=c90357a670c55c225331de7ca6e1d8a2&f=27&page=1&pp=25&sort=views&order=desc&daysprune=-1
    http://forums.tweaktown.com/f34/?pp=20&sort=views&order=desc&daysprune=-1
    http://www.proprofs.com/forums/index.php?s=abcd398e654a2bb1de0042564186ceeb&showforum=135

    (AND, as noted above? On many websites, it is in their top 1-5 most viewed usually, or "5/5 star rated" many times, would you like a list of those also?? Heh, sad really, all those years you claim to have been on a PC & yet accomplished nothing on your end apparently. I.E.-> My guide alone thus is, by far, more than YOU have shown you have ever done over 22++ yrs. on these machines on your part, for comparison's sake!)

    ---

    "You claim that you're a professional. Prove it" - by ion.simon.c (1183967) on Sunday May 03, @08:52PM (#27811101)

    See the list below, contact the magazines, publishing houses, or software companies involved @ your discretion, if you wish... professional technically means getting PAID to do a job, right? That's there below...

    AND

    I've answered ALL of your questions (the ones that matter, & I did so, w/ out writing out a book to do so), here -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1219095&cid=27806379

    ----

    HOWEVER - You by way of comparison, show you clearly are not, & screwed up on several points throughout this exchange, shown by your erroneous points I quoted no less in my replies, such as:

    1.) HOSTS files -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1219095&cid=27803005
    2.) DNS Servers -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1219095&cid=27798027
    3.) Logon scripts & Group Policies usage -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1219095&cid=27800951
    4.) SeLinux being implemented via kernel hooking/kernel patching -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1219095&cid=27806379
    5.) Services patching &/or cutoffs for security -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1219095

  183. Your questions were answered see inside by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "You're thread's not stickied on xtremepccentral, btw. Why is that? It's not stickied over on Ars, either. Why is that? :)" - by ion.simon.c (1183967) on Monday May 04, @02:18AM (#27812855)

    I don't believe they do that, & I can't get that EVERY place I imagine though I'd like to!

    (However, my guide IS rated "5/5 stars" there, AND is in the top 2 most viewed of all time @ that website within the forums section it is featured on)...

    NOW, for what You're asking for now? Well, it has done so in becoming an "Essential Guide", & on these websites:

    http://www.tcmagazine.com/forums/index.php?s=ab63b5c5b7b51bde1ed34c6db909d3a7&act=SF&f=87&st=0&changefilters=1
    http://forum.soft32.com/windows/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewforum&f=26&start=0
    http://forums.guru3d.com/forumdisplay.php?s=c90357a670c55c225331de7ca6e1d8a2&f=27&page=1&pp=25&sort=views&order=desc&daysprune=-1
    http://forums.tweaktown.com/f34/?pp=20&sort=views&order=desc&daysprune=-1
    http://www.proprofs.com/forums/index.php?s=abcd398e654a2bb1de0042564186ceeb&showforum=135

    (AND, as noted above? On many websites, it is in their top 1-5 most viewed usually, or "5/5 star rated" many times, would you like a list of those also?? Heh, sad really, all those years you claim to have been on a PC & yet accomplished nothing on your end apparently. I.E.-> My guide alone thus is, by far, more than YOU have shown you have ever done over 22++ yrs. on these machines on your part, for comparison's sake!)

    ---

    "You claim that you're a professional. Prove it" - by ion.simon.c (1183967) on Sunday May 03, @08:52PM (#27811101)

    See the list below, contact the magazines, publishing houses, or software companies involved @ your discretion, if you wish... professional technically means getting PAID to do a job, right? That's there below...

    AND

    I've answered ALL of your questions (the ones that matter, & I did so, w/ out writing out a book to do so), here -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1219095&cid=27806379

    ----

    HOWEVER - You by way of comparison, show you clearly are not, & screwed up on several points throughout this exchange, shown by your erroneous points I quoted no less in my replies, such as:

    1.) HOSTS files -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1219095&cid=27803005
    2.) DNS Servers -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1219095&cid=27798027
    3.) Logon scripts & Group Policies usage -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1219095&cid=27800951
    4.) SeLinux being implemented via kernel hooking/kernel patching -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1219095&cid=27806379
    5.) Services patching &/or cutoffs for security -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1219095

  184. Arstechnica Jeremy Reimer caught impersonating me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Arstechnica's been proven to impersonate me before, & they have done so again is all (see the windows it pro memory optimization hoax article URL I posted below for proof of that much):

    "You're thread's not stickied on xtremepccentral, btw. Why is that? It's not stickied over on Ars, either. Why is that? :)" - by ion.simon.c (1183967) on Monday May 04, @02:18AM (#27812855)

    I don't believe they do that, & I can't get that EVERY place I imagine though I'd like to!

    (However, my guide IS rated "5/5 stars" there, AND is in the top 2 most viewed of all time @ that website within the forums section it is featured on)...

    NOW, for what You're asking for now? Well, it has done so in becoming an "Essential Guide", & on these websites:

    http://www.tcmagazine.com/forums/index.php?s=ab63b5c5b7b51bde1ed34c6db909d3a7&act=SF&f=87&st=0&changefilters=1
    http://forum.soft32.com/windows/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewforum&f=26&start=0
    http://forums.guru3d.com/forumdisplay.php?s=c90357a670c55c225331de7ca6e1d8a2&f=27&page=1&pp=25&sort=views&order=desc&daysprune=-1
    http://forums.tweaktown.com/f34/?pp=20&sort=views&order=desc&daysprune=-1
    http://www.proprofs.com/forums/index.php?s=abcd398e654a2bb1de0042564186ceeb&showforum=135

    (AND, as noted above? On many websites, it is in their top 1-5 most viewed usually, or "5/5 star rated" many times, would you like a list of those also?? Heh, sad really, all those years you claim to have been on a PC & yet accomplished nothing on your end apparently. I.E.-> My guide alone thus is, by far, more than YOU have shown you have ever done over 22++ yrs. on these machines on your part, for comparison's sake!)

    ---

    "You claim that you're a professional. Prove it" - by ion.simon.c (1183967) on Sunday May 03, @08:52PM (#27811101)

    See the list below, contact the magazines, publishing houses, or software companies involved @ your discretion, if you wish... professional technically means getting PAID to do a job, right? That's there below...

    AND

    I've answered ALL of your questions (the ones that matter, & I did so, w/ out writing out a book to do so), here -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1219095&cid=27806379

    ----

    HOWEVER - You by way of comparison, show you clearly are not, & screwed up on several points throughout this exchange, shown by your erroneous points I quoted no less in my replies, such as:

    1.) HOSTS files -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1219095&cid=27803005
    2.) DNS Servers -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1219095&cid=27798027
    3.) Logon scripts & Group Policies usage -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1219095&cid=27800951
    4.) SeLinux being implemented via kernel hooking/kernel patching -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1219095&

  185. The pressure of failure gets the better of SIMIAN by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "You're thread's not stickied on xtremepccentral, btw. Why is that? It's not stickied over on Ars, either. Why is that? :)" - by ion.simon.c (1183967) on Monday May 04, @02:18AM (#27812855)

    I don't believe they do that, & I can't get that EVERY place I imagine though I'd like to!

    (However, my guide IS rated "5/5 stars" there, AND is in the top 2 most viewed of all time @ that website within the forums section it is featured on)...

    NOW, for what You're asking for now? Well, it has done so in becoming an "Essential Guide", & on these websites:

    http://www.tcmagazine.com/forums/index.php?s=ab63b5c5b7b51bde1ed34c6db909d3a7&act=SF&f=87&st=0&changefilters=1
    http://forum.soft32.com/windows/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewforum&f=26&start=0
    http://forums.guru3d.com/forumdisplay.php?s=c90357a670c55c225331de7ca6e1d8a2&f=27&page=1&pp=25&sort=views&order=desc&daysprune=-1
    http://forums.tweaktown.com/f34/?pp=20&sort=views&order=desc&daysprune=-1
    http://www.proprofs.com/forums/index.php?s=abcd398e654a2bb1de0042564186ceeb&showforum=135

    (AND, as noted above? On many websites, it is in their top 1-5 most viewed usually, or "5/5 star rated" many times, would you like a list of those also?? Heh, sad really, all those years you claim to have been on a PC & yet accomplished nothing on your end apparently. I.E.-> My guide alone thus is, by far, more than YOU have shown you have ever done over 22++ yrs. on these machines on your part, for comparison's sake!)

    ---

    "You claim that you're a professional. Prove it" - by ion.simon.c (1183967) on Sunday May 03, @08:52PM (#27811101)

    See the list below, contact the magazines, publishing houses, or software companies involved @ your discretion, if you wish... professional technically means getting PAID to do a job, right? That's there below...

    AND

    I've answered ALL of your questions (the ones that matter, & I did so, w/ out writing out a book to do so), here -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1219095&cid=27806379

    ----

    HOWEVER - You by way of comparison, show you clearly are not, & screwed up on several points throughout this exchange, shown by your erroneous points I quoted no less in my replies, such as:

    1.) HOSTS files -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1219095&cid=27803005
    2.) DNS Servers -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1219095&cid=27798027
    3.) Logon scripts & Group Policies usage -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1219095&cid=27800951
    4.) SeLinux being implemented via kernel hooking/kernel patching -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1219095&cid=27806379
    5.) Services patching &/or cutoffs for security -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1219095

  186. WRONG AGAIN, lmao: You can't even GOOGLE right by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Google failed to find any offical mention of your work with Russinovich" - by ion.simon.c (1183967) on Monday May 04, @10:57PM (#27825779)

    GOOGLE didn't fail, YOU DID (as usual, per this reply AND the list of your screwups here I enumerate below in this exchange)...

    See this -> http://www.pcmech.com/article/defragging-the-windows-page-file/ (& the comment by "SuperFluid" there)

    YOU can't even GOOGLE something right, lol...

    LOL, trouble is, you're showing yourself to be nothing more than a "I can't do anything w/out GOOGLE" type online... and, you say you're a programmer? PROVE IT (how do you like it? That's the kind of crap you've been saying to me & I provide proof below... lol, you do not & have NOTHING LIKE THE LISTS I PROVIDE BELOW, to your credit)

    ----

    "I've emailed Mr. Russinovich to figure out what work that you've done with him" - by ion.simon.c (1183967) on Monday May 04, @10:57PM (#27825779)

    For Sunbelt Software (I'll save you the time there) to whom we contracted out wares we had written, thru LC (& also MANY years later, in 2003, when I fixed up his pagedefrag program, instructing him where it was hardcoded and how/why it could adversely affect the operations of his application if people moved their pagefile.sys location (which is doable on both accounts) to another disk (he had them hardcoded to C: drive only, & it made his program fail - he emailed me back thanking me in fact).

    ----

    "You're thread's not stickied on xtremepccentral, btw. Why is that? It's not stickied over on Ars, either. Why is that? :)" - by ion.simon.c (1183967) on Monday May 04, @02:18AM (#27812855)

    I don't believe they do that, & I can't get that EVERY place I imagine though I'd like to!

    (However, my guide IS rated "5/5 stars" there, AND is in the top 2 most viewed of all time @ that website within the forums section it is featured on)...

    NOW, for what You're asking for now? Well, it has done so in becoming an "Essential Guide", & on these websites:

    http://www.tcmagazine.com/forums/index.php?s=ab63b5c5b7b51bde1ed34c6db909d3a7&act=SF&f=87&st=0&changefilters=1
    http://forum.soft32.com/windows/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewforum&f=26&start=0
    http://forums.guru3d.com/forumdisplay.php?s=c90357a670c55c225331de7ca6e1d8a2&f=27&page=1&pp=25&sort=views&order=desc&daysprune=-1
    http://forums.tweaktown.com/f34/?pp=20&sort=views&order=desc&daysprune=-1
    http://www.proprofs.com/forums/index.php?s=abcd398e654a2bb1de0042564186ceeb&showforum=135

    (AND, as noted above? On many websites, it is in their top 1-5 most viewed usually, or "5/5 star rated" many times, would you like a list of those also?? Heh, sad really, all those years you claim to have been on a PC & yet accomplished nothing on your end apparently. I.E.-> My guide alone thus is, by far, more than YOU have shown you have ever done over 22++ yrs. on these machines on your part, for comparison's sake!)

    ---

    "You claim that you're a professional. Prove it" - by ion.simon.c (1183967) on Sunday May 03, @08:52PM (#2

  187. For 12 hours everyone will see you screw up here by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Google failed to find any offical mention of your work with Russinovich" - by ion.simon.c (1183967) on Monday May 04, @10:57PM (#27825779)

    GOOGLE didn't fail, YOU DID (as usual, per this reply AND the list of your screwups here I enumerate below in this exchange)...

    See this -> http://www.pcmech.com/article/defragging-the-windows-page-file/ (& the comment by "SuperFluid" there)

    YOU can't even GOOGLE something right, lol...

    LOL, trouble is, you're showing yourself to be nothing more than a "I can't do anything w/out GOOGLE" type online... and, you say you're a programmer? PROVE IT (how do you like it? That's the kind of crap you've been saying to me & I provide proof below... lol, you do not & have NOTHING LIKE THE LISTS I PROVIDE BELOW, to your credit)

    ----

    "I've emailed Mr. Russinovich to figure out what work that you've done with him" - by ion.simon.c (1183967) on Monday May 04, @10:57PM (#27825779)

    For Sunbelt Software (I'll save you the time there) to whom we contracted out wares we had written, thru LC (& also MANY years later, in 2003, when I fixed up his pagedefrag program, instructing him where it was hardcoded and how/why it could adversely affect the operations of his application if people moved their pagefile.sys location (which is doable on both accounts) to another disk (he had them hardcoded to C: drive only, & it made his program fail - he emailed me back thanking me in fact).

    ----

    "You're thread's not stickied on xtremepccentral, btw. Why is that? It's not stickied over on Ars, either. Why is that? :)" - by ion.simon.c (1183967) on Monday May 04, @02:18AM (#27812855)

    I don't believe they do that, & I can't get that EVERY place I imagine though I'd like to!

    (However, my guide IS rated "5/5 stars" there, AND is in the top 2 most viewed of all time @ that website within the forums section it is featured on)...

    NOW, for what You're asking for now? Well, it has done so in becoming an "Essential Guide", & on these websites:

    http://www.tcmagazine.com/forums/index.php?s=ab63b5c5b7b51bde1ed34c6db909d3a7&act=SF&f=87&st=0&changefilters=1
    http://forum.soft32.com/windows/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewforum&f=26&start=0
    http://forums.guru3d.com/forumdisplay.php?s=c90357a670c55c225331de7ca6e1d8a2&f=27&page=1&pp=25&sort=views&order=desc&daysprune=-1
    http://forums.tweaktown.com/f34/?pp=20&sort=views&order=desc&daysprune=-1
    http://www.proprofs.com/forums/index.php?s=abcd398e654a2bb1de0042564186ceeb&showforum=135

    (AND, as noted above? On many websites, it is in their top 1-5 most viewed usually, or "5/5 star rated" many times, would you like a list of those also?? Heh, sad really, all those years you claim to have been on a PC & yet accomplished nothing on your end apparently. I.E.-> My guide alone thus is, by far, more than YOU have shown you have ever done over 22++ yrs. on these machines on your part, for comparison's sake!)

    ---

    "You claim that you're a professional. Prove it" - by ion.simon.c (1183967) on Sunday May 03, @08:52PM (#2

  188. See the list of Ion.SimIAn.c screwups in this post by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Google failed to find any offical mention of your work with Russinovich" - by ion.simon.c (1183967) on Monday May 04, @10:57PM (#27825779)

    GOOGLE didn't fail, YOU DID (as usual, per this reply AND the list of your screwups here I enumerate below in this exchange)...

    See this -> http://www.pcmech.com/article/defragging-the-windows-page-file/ (& the comment by "SuperFluid" there)

    YOU can't even GOOGLE something right, lol...

    LOL, trouble is, you're showing yourself to be nothing more than a "I can't do anything w/out GOOGLE" type online... and, you say you're a programmer? PROVE IT (how do you like it? That's the kind of crap you've been saying to me & I provide proof below... lol, you do not & have NOTHING LIKE THE LISTS I PROVIDE BELOW, to your credit)

    ----

    "I've emailed Mr. Russinovich to figure out what work that you've done with him" - by ion.simon.c (1183967) on Monday May 04, @10:57PM (#27825779)

    For Sunbelt Software (I'll save you the time there) to whom we contracted out wares we had written, thru LC (& also MANY years later, in 2003, when I fixed up his pagedefrag program, instructing him where it was hardcoded and how/why it could adversely affect the operations of his application if people moved their pagefile.sys location (which is doable on both accounts) to another disk (he had them hardcoded to C: drive only, & it made his program fail - he emailed me back thanking me in fact).

    ----

    "You're thread's not stickied on xtremepccentral, btw. Why is that? It's not stickied over on Ars, either. Why is that? :)" - by ion.simon.c (1183967) on Monday May 04, @02:18AM (#27812855)

    I don't believe they do that, & I can't get that EVERY place I imagine though I'd like to!

    (However, my guide IS rated "5/5 stars" there, AND is in the top 2 most viewed of all time @ that website within the forums section it is featured on)...

    NOW, for what You're asking for now? Well, it has done so in becoming an "Essential Guide", & on these websites:

    http://www.tcmagazine.com/forums/index.php?s=ab63b5c5b7b51bde1ed34c6db909d3a7&act=SF&f=87&st=0&changefilters=1
    http://forum.soft32.com/windows/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewforum&f=26&start=0
    http://forums.guru3d.com/forumdisplay.php?s=c90357a670c55c225331de7ca6e1d8a2&f=27&page=1&pp=25&sort=views&order=desc&daysprune=-1
    http://forums.tweaktown.com/f34/?pp=20&sort=views&order=desc&daysprune=-1
    http://www.proprofs.com/forums/index.php?s=abcd398e654a2bb1de0042564186ceeb&showforum=135

    (AND, as noted above? On many websites, it is in their top 1-5 most viewed usually, or "5/5 star rated" many times, would you like a list of those also?? Heh, sad really, all those years you claim to have been on a PC & yet accomplished nothing on your end apparently. I.E.-> My guide alone thus is, by far, more than YOU have shown you have ever done over 22++ yrs. on these machines on your part, for comparison's sake!)

    ---

    "You claim that you're a professional. Prove it" - by ion.simon.c (1183967) on Sunday May 03, @08:52PM (#2

  189. Ask Jeremy Reimer about impersonating me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Arstechnica people like Jeremy Reimer impersonated me on their forums & that was shown @ Windows IT Pro forums (url below) as well as his friends impersonating others & admitting to it on Reimer's own forums (lol, what a bunch of losers), & proof of that is below (anything over @ arstechnica is the same, b.s. impersonations many times of myself):

    "Google failed to find any offical mention of your work with Russinovich" - by ion.simon.c (1183967) on Monday May 04, @10:57PM (#27825779)

    GOOGLE didn't fail, YOU DID (as usual, per this reply AND the list of your screwups here I enumerate below in this exchange)...

    See this -> http://www.pcmech.com/article/defragging-the-windows-page-file/ (& the comment by "SuperFluid" there)

    YOU can't even GOOGLE something right, lol...

    LOL, trouble is, you're showing yourself to be nothing more than a "I can't do anything w/out GOOGLE" type online... and, you say you're a programmer? PROVE IT (how do you like it? That's the kind of crap you've been saying to me & I provide proof below... lol, you do not & have NOTHING LIKE THE LISTS I PROVIDE BELOW, to your credit)

    ----

    "I've emailed Mr. Russinovich to figure out what work that you've done with him" - by ion.simon.c (1183967) on Monday May 04, @10:57PM (#27825779)

    For Sunbelt Software (I'll save you the time there) to whom we contracted out wares we had written, thru LC (& also MANY years later, in 2003, when I fixed up his pagedefrag program, instructing him where it was hardcoded and how/why it could adversely affect the operations of his application if people moved their pagefile.sys location (which is doable on both accounts) to another disk (he had them hardcoded to C: drive only, & it made his program fail - he emailed me back thanking me in fact).

    ----

    "You're thread's not stickied on xtremepccentral, btw. Why is that? It's not stickied over on Ars, either. Why is that? :)" - by ion.simon.c (1183967) on Monday May 04, @02:18AM (#27812855)

    I don't believe they do that, & I can't get that EVERY place I imagine though I'd like to!

    (However, my guide IS rated "5/5 stars" there, AND is in the top 2 most viewed of all time @ that website within the forums section it is featured on)...

    NOW, for what You're asking for now? Well, it has done so in becoming an "Essential Guide", & on these websites:

    http://www.tcmagazine.com/forums/index.php?s=ab63b5c5b7b51bde1ed34c6db909d3a7&act=SF&f=87&st=0&changefilters=1
    http://forum.soft32.com/windows/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewforum&f=26&start=0
    http://forums.guru3d.com/forumdisplay.php?s=c90357a670c55c225331de7ca6e1d8a2&f=27&page=1&pp=25&sort=views&order=desc&daysprune=-1
    http://forums.tweaktown.com/f34/?pp=20&sort=views&order=desc&daysprune=-1
    http://www.proprofs.com/forums/index.php?s=abcd398e654a2bb1de0042564186ceeb&showforum=135

    (AND, as noted above? On many websites, it is in their top 1-5 most viewed usually, or "5/5 star rated" many times, would you like a list of those also?? Heh, sad really, all those years you claim to have been o

    1. Re:Ask Jeremy Reimer about impersonating me by ion.simon.c · · Score: 1

      http://windowsitpro.com/article/articleid/41095/the-memory-optimization-hoax.html
      ^^^ This. This is an article. It's not even an article that has a byline by Alex Kowalski. It's certainly not a forum.

  190. Re:Ion.SimiAn.c, master troll, folds under pressur by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Chill, mate, /b/ is being DDoSed. He'll be gone as soon as it's back. In the meantime, quit feeding the troll?

  191. "The great ion.simian.c" (NOT): Proof inside... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Arstechnica's JEREMY REIMER (a blatant FAKE) was caught red-handed alongside his friends impersonating me on his OSY website (to which his hosting provider removed large portions of his website for, lol, & his ISP nailed him for email harassing me, as well as making threats to my family no less, which got law enforcement involved in Canada (& Reimer stopped right there, lol)).

    So much for your "edited" arstechnica posts that are not even myself (they like to impersonate others, because that's ALL they have)...

    Anyhow - Here we go now, ready (as to your errors here):

    "Google failed to find any offical mention of your work with Russinovich" - by ion.simon.c (1183967) on Monday May 04, @10:57PM (#27825779)

    GOOGLE didn't fail, YOU DID (as usual, per this reply AND the list of your screwups here I enumerate below in this exchange)...

    See this -> http://www.pcmech.com/article/defragging-the-windows-page-file/ (& the comment by "SuperFluid" there)

    YOU can't even GOOGLE something right, lol...

    LOL, trouble is, you're showing yourself to be nothing more than a "I can't do anything w/out GOOGLE" type online... and, you say you're a programmer? PROVE IT (how do you like it? That's the kind of crap you've been saying to me & I provide proof below... lol, you do not & have NOTHING LIKE THE LISTS I PROVIDE BELOW, to your credit)

    ----

    "I've emailed Mr. Russinovich to figure out what work that you've done with him" - by ion.simon.c (1183967) on Monday May 04, @10:57PM (#27825779)

    For Sunbelt Software (I'll save you the time there) to whom we contracted out wares we had written, thru LC (& also MANY years later, in 2003, when I fixed up his pagedefrag program, instructing him where it was hardcoded and how/why it could adversely affect the operations of his application if people moved their pagefile.sys location (which is doable on both accounts) to another disk (he had them hardcoded to C: drive only, & it made his program fail - he emailed me back thanking me in fact).

    ----

    "You're thread's not stickied on xtremepccentral, btw. Why is that? It's not stickied over on Ars, either. Why is that? :)" - by ion.simon.c (1183967) on Monday May 04, @02:18AM (#27812855)

    I don't believe they do that, & I can't get that EVERY place I imagine though I'd like to!

    (However, my guide IS rated "5/5 stars" there, AND is in the top 2 most viewed of all time @ that website within the forums section it is featured on)...

    NOW, for what You're asking for now? Well, it has done so in becoming an "Essential Guide", & on these websites:

    http://www.tcmagazine.com/forums/index.php?s=ab63b5c5b7b51bde1ed34c6db909d3a7&act=SF&f=87&st=0&changefilters=1
    http://forum.soft32.com/windows/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewforum&f=26&start=0
    http://forums.guru3d.com/forumdisplay.php?s=c90357a670c55c225331de7ca6e1d8a2&f=27&page=1&pp=25&sort=views&order=desc&daysprune=-1
    http://forums.tweaktown.com/f34/?pp=20&sort=views&order=desc&daysprune=-1
    http://www.proprofs.com/forums/index.php?s=abcd398e654a2bb1de0042564186ceeb&showforum=

  192. Obviously arstechnica keeps impersonating apk by MEK_LoveBug · · Score: 1

    I've read the article over at windows it pro magazine since I am a subscribing member there and Jeremy Reimer, Jarrett DeAngelis, and Jay Little impersonated apk on Reimer's website and admitted to it (only after their isp's busted them for email harassing apk, and then Reimer's hosting provider for his website removed parts of Reimer's website for libelling apk as well as threatening his family like a psyhopath would which got canadian law enforcement involved (and reimer backed off fast at that point and had to or go to court and jail)). It is therefore quite obvious that moron Reimer did the same over at arstechnica, the home of the trolling loser online.

  193. It appears he did answer them, stop trolling by MEK_LoveBug · · Score: 1

    I read apk's reply and he more than answered your questions, and provided a link that actually even proves what he stated that selinux uses kernel hooking to achieve what it does on Linux, and that windows nt family of operating systems has had something like that natively already built in since day 1 in acl's. Quit trolling ion.simon.c, because you have lost miserably and make a dozen or more mistakes here and they were documented in apk's answers here which made me laugh at how badly you have done in this exchange, error after error on your end. You call yourself a programmer? You have no proof of it, where apk does, and provided it at your request. You then laughingly try to lessen what he has accomplished, because you have nothing like it. You are a jealous troll that messes up on technr ical points here as well. Grow up, accept that you lost, and move on troll. I know you are full of it and you're no longer even amusing.

  194. You're ignorant, and we are tired of you ion.simon by MEK_LoveBug · · Score: 1

    If anyone here is tired, it is us reading your repeated mistakes and off topic posts in this thread, ion.simon.c. So, ion.simon.c, You claim to be a programmer. Prove it. That's what you said to apk and he blew you away with a lot of evidence to that effect as to his professional status in this science and his accomplishments in it, as well as he showing you in error here a dozen times or more by now on technical issues being discussed. Give up, you lost badly, ion.simon.c, and it is obvious you are just trying to troll him now. I will say one thing in your defense: You are so stupid that it is hilarious watching you try to save face and cover your mistakes by trying to bury apk's replies, but as you can see, I can see and have read them also and man, did you ever lose and badly.

  195. Good Lord, go away you stupid troll ion.simon.c by MEK_LoveBug · · Score: 1

    The word MOAR doesn't exist in the english language moron. You ran out of things to say after you were caught in a dozen errors in this thread ion.simon.c and all you have is off topic evasions and attempts at burying evidences of you being in error so many times in this post that it is not even amusing anymore. You say you are a programmer. Prove it. At least apk had some evidences to that much and his accomplishments, which you have none of given that you can't produce a list of evidences like his. He did more a decade ago up to recently than you have in this science in your entire time in it. Prove otherwise.

  196. Ion.simon.c it seems you like the taste of defeat by MEK_LoveBug · · Score: 1

    He certainly shut you up about how selinux implements things like windows access control lists in mandatory access control and also that selinux uses kernel hooks which you doubted and he produced a stack trace debug dump of selinux from microsoft themselves to prove it. You tried to say "that is insufficient" only because it blew away your trolling garbage and once I read that article I actually learned a thing or two, so thanks apk. Ion.simon.c, thanks for the amusement and showing us all you are a victim of your own hubris and that you stuck your foot in your mouth a dozen times and are now off topic trolling to try to bury the evidences of your mistakes here through this posting. I read the list of errors you made here that apk put up and you are one stupid sob who claims he is a programmer (prove it, apk did, and you can't) and is clearly not.

  197. Jealous little troll ion.simon.c, step inside by MEK_LoveBug · · Score: 1

    HOSTS files are used in security, as is the other point apk covered on wfp versus how older windows did a 3 part phalanx zone defense like arrangement for securing ip traffic. It is on topic, because this is about windows and security and hosts files plus filtering are portions of microsoft windows' own security system. You stated you are a programmer in this posting and it is clear you are not and just some lying amateur, because when you asked apk to prove he is a pro in this science he did so with numerous examples and accomplishments in this science. You by the same token had nothing like them. apk more than answered your questions where you said "windows has nothing like selinux" and apk pointed out acl's and how they have been in NT\2000\XP\Server 2003 since their conception unlike Linux using kernel hooking seLinux. apk was completely correct and so much so you had to try the 'troll tactic' of saying "that is insufficient" and the article goes into it more in depth as to how kernel hooking works and proved selinux does as apk said it does, uses kernel hooks to achieve what Nt-based OS' always have had natively. Go away you jealous little nobody troll ion.simon.c, you have lost badly.

  198. I'm subscribe - I read this all at windows it pro by MEK_LoveBug · · Score: 1

    Alongside the article over at windows it pro forums called the memory optimization hoax and there apk stated the same as he has here and dr. russinovich never replied otherwise as to apk and he doing work for the same companies in the 1990s and that apk helped him find and fix problems in his pagedefrag program. That's official enough for me and please don't try to cover for your own inadequacy in computer sciences saying that's insufficient. What IS insufficient is your lack of proof you are a programmer since you ask proof of others of their roles in this science as you had to apk and he blew you away with his proofs and amount of it as well as achievements he has to his credit where you laughingly have zero to compare, let alone prove your bullshit that you are a programmer. If you are a programmer then I am Barack Obama. Give up ion.simon.c you inadequate jealous troll.

  199. Ion.simon.c you are a troll and a stupid one also by MEK_LoveBug · · Score: 1

    How apk uses P.B. Shelley's quoted excerpt fits here quite nicely. You looked upon his works and must despair, hahaha, because you have zero to compare to his rather large list of accomplishments around this science, despite you saying you have used computers since the late 1980's. I hate to point out the obvious ion.simon.c, but you have not accomplished much, otherwise you would have put up proofs of your status allegedly as a programmer in this science since you stated you are. I don't believe it because you make too many technical mistakes and I read them when apk noted them. If you are a coder then you must stink at it. You ion.simon.c claimed to be a programmer and then you asked for proof of apk's status in the science of computing. He put up so many proofs this way in the way of verifiable achievements in this science that I found it impressive in fact, especially considering he blows away anything to that effect (proving his status as a pro in this science) you had, which was, laughingly, nothing on your part ion.simon.c, so give up. You trolled and were destroyed here for it by your own stupidity and numerous errors which apk also documented and I read them. I believe you are a professional in this field as much as anyone might believe I am Barack Obama. You're nothing but a stupid troll ion.simon.c, face it.

  200. He does what anyone does to a troll like you by MEK_LoveBug · · Score: 1

    You're a troll ion.simon.c, and not very good at it either. You made so many mistakes up there that apk documented that you are just now embarrassed into having to try to goad him via your off topic trolling. Do you think you are pulling the wool over anyone's eyes here with your off topic bullshit? By no means. I read both of your statements here and apk backs everything he says where you have no proof of even your being a programmer (though you asked it of apk and he put out an impressive list of things he has done around this science, and despite your probable lie that you are a programmer when you stated it, you have nothing, not even 1 thing that was noted as good in this science, where apk had 10 of them). You can't even match the 'modded up' posts count he had and you are a registered user. Lord knows the "elitists" amongst the registered users here often avoid ac posts (like apk does) and certainly for modding them upwards. You should be able to blow his mod up posts count away, however as usual, you have no proof of your doing better. Typical troll is what you are and not even good at that just judging by the counts of errors you have made here on things technical in this discussion.

  201. You only got the better of yourself, troll by MEK_LoveBug · · Score: 1

    What a joke you are ion.simon.c in saying you got the better of apk. Is making mistakes now considered getting the better of people around this website? Because your mistakes here: [list]1.) HOSTS files -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1219095&cid=27803005%5B/list%5D [list]2.) DNS Servers -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1219095&cid=27798027%5B/list%5D [list]3.) Logon scripts & Group Policies usage -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1219095&cid=27800951 [list]4.) SeLinux being implemented via kernel hooking/kernel patching -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1219095&cid=27806379%5B/list%5D [list]5.) Services patching &/or cutoffs for security -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1219095&cid=27802917%5B/list%5D [list]6.) What the definition of "System Hardening" is -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1219095&cid=27800687 [list]7.) Your 1st post thought my guide was about speed, & instead it is about security -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1219095&cid=27794633%5B/list%5D [list]8.) Here was your FIRST instance of "correcting yourself"/admitting I was correct -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1219095&cid=27803103%5B/list%5D [list]9.) Here was where you FIRST asked me to "prove who I am" -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1219095&cid=27804053 (give us all a break!)[/list] [list]10.) Here you said I was not enforcing policies in my security guide, & you made another mistake on that -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1219095&cid=27801155%5B/list%5D [list]11.) Here was your 2nd instance of "correcting yourself" (amending your questions to try to "make me wrong" & you failed again) -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1219095&cid=27803601%5B/list%5D 12.) YOU also said my guide being posted here NEVER gets "modded up"? I showed QUITE the contrary here -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1219095&cid=27803307%5B/list%5D [list]13.) You're clear INABILITY to even GOOGLE something right, @ the top of THIS post - http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1221343&threshold=-1&commentsort=0&mode=thread&cid=27831377%5B/list%5D Show whom got the better of whom, and it doesn't look at all like you got the better of apk, in fact it seems to be quite the reverse with that list of errors you have made here, along with false accusations you had to 'correct' and admit later you were wrong on a few times according to those url's above and your own quoted words in them. Give up you trolling loser, and prove you are a programmer since you asked apk to do so and he put out a list of proofs that were impressive I felt, whereas you had nothing even remotely like the 10 he had and you cannot even match apk's mod up posts count here and he is an ac no less (and everyone knows the "elitis

  202. Re:Arstechnica Jeremy Reimer caught impersonating by ion.simon.c · · Score: 1

    What's a BSP?

  203. He answered your other questions, stop trolling by MEK_LoveBug · · Score: 1

    Your questions have been answered as well as your being shown in error here repeatedly ion.simon.c in the post parent to your own as well as many times in this thread where you were shown to have accused apk of things regarding his hosts file (which you admitted you screwed up on) and also about his security guide (where you stated he did not go into things like securing services or disabling vulnerable ones). You either skim, or are just another losing his ass troll who is now going off topic to try to troll others even more. You are a programmer you say? Prove it (that's what you said to apk and he blew you away with a quite impressive list of accomplishments to his credit, where you laughingly have not even a single one). You are a pitiful example of how low a human being can be ion.simon.c and thus I cannot even credit you as being a good troll. You can't match your opponents achievements, and also have made more mistakes than he did on technical issues (only thing is, apk has not made a single one yet, inclusive especially of his stating how selinx works via kernel hooks and you tried to say Microsoft's debug dump of selinux showing kernel hooking is insufficient? Give us a break you know nothing troll ion.simon.c)

    1. Re:He answered your other questions, stop trolling by ion.simon.c · · Score: 1

      Woo. You *do* have an account here. Good job.

      Also, you may wish to start folks from the beginning, sockpuppet. ;)

  204. ion.simon.c you are not even a good troll by MEK_LoveBug · · Score: 1

    Oh, this is good. How would you know that if you said you cannot see it? It's an article by Dr. Mark Russinovich and it is where Jeremy Reimer, Jarrett DeAngelis, and Jay Little (artechnica members all) were caught libelling, threatening apk and his family no less (that is when the law got involved and it stopped all 3 of them cold) and where each of the was caught impersonating not only apk, but also a Mr. Marty Meszaros, and then with them posting as others under "alternate guises" as they called them and were then caught admitting to it (waarheid=veritas) over at Jeremy Reimer's own forums at his osy website. These arstechnica morons are as laughable as you are ion.simon.c and I suspect you are just another one like them. A jealous scumbag who has never accomplished anything worth noting by those in publication in this science, which apk has shown us a ton of he has from as far back as 13 years ago or more, and you have not a single thing like them to your credit by way of comparison. Prove to us you are a programmer, and even if you can, which I doubt? I would just say as was said to you here a few times now, that you're not good at it or you would have been recognized as that by those in the media around this science. You are a troll and not even good at that.

  205. Re:Ion.SimiAn.c, master troll, folds under pressur by MEK_LoveBug · · Score: 1

    That dumbass ion.simon.c can't even google something right, lol, see here - http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1219095&cid=27831079 lmao unbelievable, and this moron ion.simon.c says he is a programmer? No way. He's another done nothing useful or good with his life troll is all.

  206. Even I know that one troll by MEK_LoveBug · · Score: 1

    Even I know that. It's an acronym for a "broadband service provider" troll. You're the googler here though you messed up on something as simple as that too, lol, here - http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1221343&cid=27831377 You say you're a coder and you don't know that? You really are a lame liar ion.simon.c so take your "I am a programmer" trolling lie someplace else. You are too stupid to fool any of us and especially at this point. Now I am trolling you and laughing at you, because you say you are a programmer and you cannot even google something properly. I'll give you one thing. You are amusing in a fool's kind of way. You keep making mistakes and making your opponent look all the more stronger in your doing so. You tried to take on a tiger by taking it by its tail and are now reaping the rewards of that (you look like a stuttering mistake making idiot).

  207. You're the "google expert" lol not by MEK_LoveBug · · Score: 1

    See here troll - http://www.bitpipe.com/tlist/Broadband-Service-Providers.html Then again we already know you can't even get a google query right from this example of that here on this forums - http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1221343&cid=27831377 where you said you went looking for something involving the ac apk helping Doctor Mark Russinovich with his work in pagedefrag and it was right there once he proved you can't even run a query right on Google. You say you're a programmer in this thread, prove it (after all, you asked that of apk and he did with an impressive and overwhelming list of proofs to that effect, and you by comparison have nothing to your credit). Go away troll. You're no programmer, ha, you can't even get a google query correct.

  208. Give us a break ion.simon.c by MEK_LoveBug · · Score: 1

    rotflmao @ ion.simon.c, you said this - "'ve already "gotten the better" of you" here - http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1219095&cid=27825529 and I hate to tell you the obvious, but far from it. Looks to be the other way around in fact, with the ac apk trashing you and mostly with your own mistakes which I found rather funhy. Also, when the ac apk posted this in reply - http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1221343&cid=27831377 showing all the technical mistakes you made, even something easy like querying google for pete's sake, you messed up large. You state you're a programmer, so I will just say what you kept repeating endlessly to apk, which is prove it. You kept acting the ass afterwards, even after the ac apk put up quite the impressive list of times his works and wares have been in written publications or doing well at respected technical contests like Microsoft TechEd too, in the sciences of computing from as far back as 13 years ago up until present time or near to it in 2007 or 2008. You by way of comparison are unable to do anything like that despite your stating you have been at this since the 80's in that exchange. Based on all of this, there is no way you could ever successfully convince me that you are a programmer. You can't even query google right.

  209. Re:Ion.SimiAn.c, master troll, folds under pressur by ion.simon.c · · Score: 1

    *grins* I'm as cool as a cucumber. It's this AC and his sockpuppet that seems to have lost it.

    Anyway, good luck with this guy. He's pretty thick-headed. Lemmy know how it turns out?

  210. Re:Ion.SimiAn.c, master troll, folds under pressur by MEK_LoveBug · · Score: 1

    http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1219095&cid=27837223 sure you're cool as a cucumber (in a furnace), because you are making one screwup after another, just as you did here - http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1221343&cid=27831377 where all of your errors so far in this exchange have been exposed. You can't even query google properly and that was shown in the second url I posted. You say you're a programmer but there is no way you have tried to prove that though you demand it of others, and even if you could, based on your poor performance here it is obvious you are either not one and are lying or are crappy at it. Your choice, there are no other options so pick one. That's how many options I will leave you based on your errors and false accusations here and your inability to even query google right or know the meaning of simple acronyms like bsp which you had to ask for and I answered it for you and I am just a user.

  211. No I think the summary of your errors here will do by MEK_LoveBug · · Score: 1

    http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1221343&cid=27831377 and you can call me all the names you wish, you are reduced to name calling like most frustrated children or noobs in this science are when they mess up and shoot their mouths off while inserting their foot into their mouth as you have with false accusations, technical errors on the topics, and most of all your trolling here (you certainly are not big on proof though you demand it of others and they provide it) I mean, least of all the statement you made that you are a programmer, because no programmer I know would screw up as much as you have on this forums in 2 to 3 days time as you have been shown to do in the posting above). Happy now, with your trolling? See what it got you? You are running yourself off this forums with screw ups and it is hilarious. Anyone is free to read the link I just posted for a good laugh though it comes at the expense of your reputation on slashdot. You brought it on yourself troll.

  212. ion.simon.c = troll by MEK_LoveBug · · Score: 1

    Loved your performance (or rather, lack of it on your part ion.simon.c) here - http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1221343&cid=27831825 nice of you ion.simon.c to make so many errors and false accusations that you ion.simon.c had to later admit you were wrong on here in this exchange. It's all there in black and white as proof that you made it too easy for the ac apk to tear you apart with ease, and believe me, it give us reading a good laugh,though at your expense ion.simon.c . You only brought the can of whoop ass the ac apk brought out on you, yourself, by trolling him. By the way, you claim to be a programmer? Prove it. You had the ac apk do that and he put up a list of 10 proofs that you had nothing like it to compare with from yourself though you say you have been using computers since the 1980's. I can now never believe that just based on the list of your errors in this thread in the link I posted just above. You're a troll.

    1. Re:ion.simon.c = troll by ion.simon.c · · Score: 1

      Prove that I am not the Alex Kowalski that that AC claims to be. :)

  213. ion.simon.c = troll by MEK_LoveBug · · Score: 1

    What an idiot you are ion.simon.c for this statement - "Are you implying that you want to physically harm me?" from the post I am replying to of yours now. How on earth can anyone do that online, when they are not physically present to do so? You really are stupid. I've known plenty of little punks like you my entire life and sooner or later their wise ass remarks and snide buffoonery online gets them into a jam in the real world, everytime. I wager strongly you've had your ass beaten more than once a few times because of your pussy like behaviour and apparently you don't learn from it. Keep it up because I can promise you 1 thing that sooner or later your woman like ways will get your ass beaten in the real world because a moron like you definitely is not smart enough to avoid it as you create your own hassles as you have here and you are losing this debate badly evidenced here where all of your errors in this very thread are listed - http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1221343&cid=27831377

  214. Spare us ion.simon.c you troll by MEK_LoveBug · · Score: 1

    Prove you are a programmer,first. After all, I see you nearly constantly asking for many proofs here and on many things, which the ac apk did provide at your request. All your bullshit doesn't make me not believe the list of accomplishments the ac apk posted, along with all the errors you made here - http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1221343&cid=27831377 were listed to satisfy your request. You are nothing but another troll trying to save face here and you are not doing a good job of it. You are now off topic as is your usual also. I took a few minutes and I looked at your posting history. You have a pattern you try to repeat and it makes you extremely predictable. For example, when you are losing a debate, you start asking for "more detail" and you get supplied backing data that is detailed and you say it is not enough? Spare us. Poor little troll ion.simon.c, you are only fooling yourself, not us readers. Go away now troll, hide your head in shame. I state that since your performance in the link above which replies to you via quotes of your own words no less doesn't show any of us reading otherwise. It's shameful, and if you are a programmer (which I strongly doubt due to your list of errors in that url above as well as lack of proof you are, which is what I am asking for now). You lose, and don't have the good sense to realize it. Worse yet, you brought it on yourself and made horrendous technical errors and you try to do your trolling techniques and they keep burying you here, even moreso. It's your funeral.

  215. OK I will email him and ask him a question by MEK_LoveBug · · Score: 1

    OK I will email him and ask him a question. I found his email in his guide over at tech connect magazine and will email him a question and if you do not answer it correctly here, and he does answer the email, then we shall find out who is who. Fair enough? I know that will work because you do not have his email account to access as your own. You must think people are stupid you troll. Time to show you just how stupid you really are with this little test.

    1. Re:OK I will email him and ask him a question by ion.simon.c · · Score: 1

      Believe it or not, all this might prove is that you spoke with the creator of those forum posts. It doesn't prove or disprove anything about the identity of the contributor to those articles and software projects in the mid-to-late 1990's.
      Your standards of proof, just like those of the AC who claims to be APK, are inadequate.

      Anyway, I've been reading this. Perhaps you and the AC that I've been conversing with [0] might wish to read it as well and mull over what it has to say.

      [0] I have a strong suspicion that you and the AC are one and the same person. If the AC is the fellow who went by the name of Alecstarr over on Ars and many other forums, this sort of behaviour is his MO.

    2. Re:OK I will email him and ask him a question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "I have a strong suspicion that you and the AC are one and the same person" - by ion.simon.c (1183967) on Wednesday May 06, @01:17AM (#27842127)

      Suspect ALL you want to Ion.SIMIAN.c, because I can just use your own stupid "defense" against you, of:

      "PROVE IT"...

      So, why don't you go & do that, along with proving you are a professional programmer, after all, you like proof (I gave it, why are you running from MY QUESTIONS? LOL, we ALL know why @ this point, especially based on your "blunder list", here -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1221343&cid=27831377 )...

      (So, I am merely asking the same from you, AND giving you a dose of your own medicine in the process (multitasking attack, gotta love it)).

      ----

      "If the AC is the fellow who went by the name of Alecstarr over on Ars and many other forums, this sort of behaviour is his MO." - by ion.simon.c (1183967) on Wednesday May 06, @01:17AM (#27842127)

      As usual: Pitiful, predictable, & "giving away" his own "modus operandi"... You don't get it, do you about MEK_LoveBug?

      He's a subscriber @ Windows IT Pro mag & said so, here:

      http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1219095&cid=27836731

      MEK_LoveBug later also noted that THE ARSTECHNICA TROLLS actually use those 'puny tricks', & laughingly were caught in it by ME no less, there, in his post here on /.:

      http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1219095&cid=27837799

      ----

      It's easy to beat trolls like you. I lured them there, so they cannot hide it via edits or posting as me... lol, on another forums where they HAVE NO CONTROL!

      (That's how you beat trolls like the lamos @ arstechnica)

      E.G. -> Lure them outside of their "private playpens", & destroy them!

      (Which is what I am letting YOU do, to YOURSELF, per this url, lol -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1221343&cid=27831377 ) because they'll screw up and do so, everytime).

      I.E.-> MEK_LoveBug stated that he read it, so you can't "twist him" dumbo, & you're not fooling he apparently, + thus, anyone else (That's the problem with trolls like you: They're just plain stupid)!

      Ask Jeremy Reimer from arstechnica about it why don't you? LOL...

      APK

      P.S.=> I have to hand 1 thing to MEK_LoveBug: He sure got a "rise" out of you, because suddenly now, hours later? You're replying to weakly try to defend yourself again...

      (I'll have to look his posts over again to see what it is that "got this rise outta you", & use it further against you... as usual, for that reaction I can use? Thanks to you for being dull-minded as per usual, & thanks to MEK_LoveBug for getting you so 'riled up' with whatever he said, that it got you to "come out of hiding", lol... hilarious!)...

      Now keep this in mind - I warned you not to try "get the better of me", but no, you had to be a troll! apk

  216. ROTFLMAO (great job MEK_LoveBug, in your posts) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1219095&cid=27839929 that is going to put your rather unintelligent question to rest, and I got the email MEK_LoveBug, and you obtained the answer from me as well. So, what answer would that be, ion.SIMIAN.c? Won't you tell us??

    (You're driving yourself out of here, and I am loving EVERY SECOND OF IT - you just don't seem to get it, do you??? I do "get off" on putting little "not men" like you, right out, on ALL possible fronts (wish you were where I could reach you in person though, because that'd be REALLY fun then - too bad!))

    ----

    By the by, ion.SIMIAN.c - I saw this come out of you in a post here:

    "You made 157 posts with a single nick in two days?" - by ion.simon.c (1183967) on Tuesday May 05, @04:20AM (#27827795)

    You really ARE "transparent" aren't you?

    You're stating that (the nick part) only tells me you're just another "multiple guises online" loser!

    One just like Jeremy Reimer, Jay Little, & Jarrett DeAngelis who did the same thing, & were caught in it + forced to finally admit they not only impersonated me, but also were busted posting under different usernames, so they could try to "gang up on me" - GOOD, I welcome that too, as it only makes me look better blowing away an entire horde than it does 1 person only.

    (Especially Jarrett DeAngelis, who tried to lie about who he was, & where he was from (but he had NO idea how easily I can determine that once I set my mind to it))

    HE tried to do over @ the windows it pro magazine forums, lie like hell @ first... when he was caught? His credibility was shot & he knew it, and along with that went his nerve...

    I trashed them all, RIGHT out of there, even to the point where the doctoral candidate student J. DeAngelis started agreeing with MOST of what I said, & I shut off FatBoy "Jay Little" with his own errors on Exchange Server (despite his braggadocio of "I AM AN EXCHANGE EXPERT" literally coming from him, first... so much for the "experts of arstechnica", eh?).

    You're just like them, only even more stupid. I.E.? You're TOO easy!

    APK

    P.S.=> MEK_LoveBug, in case I don't get to tell you this? Thanks! You did a great job driving this weasel right out of here and you shut him up, perfectly, throughout all of your "scathing" replies (I'm impressed - most trolls don't "fold under pressure" as easily as this blatantly stupid & weak dolt, ion.siMIAN.c has)... apk

    1. Re:ROTFLMAO (great job MEK_LoveBug, in your posts) by ion.simon.c · · Score: 1

      Are these your words in this thread, or were you being impersonated?
      http://episteme.arstechnica.com/6/ubb.x?q=Y&a=tpc&s=50009562&f=12009443&m=545092007

    2. Re:ROTFLMAO (great job MEK_LoveBug, in your posts) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They impersonate me on their forums and elsewhere, haven't you learned that? Read MEK_LoveBug's post here:

      http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1219095&cid=27837799

      (LOL, hilarious... & no, I didn't click on that link of yours.

      Why?

      Well - I can't trust them to not be looking @ the logs to get my IP address to try to attack me for one thing, not that they'd get thru, but I am intelligent enough to know how to AVOID being lured to a place that is NOT out for my 'best interests'...

      (AND, another would be that much of what comes from arstechnica is from the likes of no degree or certs in comp. sci. or MIS even, no years to decades of hands on experience, or original work at all, in the likes of Jeremy Reimer for example. I don't go to Doctors that have not actually practiced medicine professionally in other words)).

      APK

      P.S.=> In other words, yes, it's a safe bet that might be one of the posts they impersonated me in, but, since I won't click on it? I cannot guarantee it either.

      E.G. (from arstechnica) -> I have 1 bookmarked where I called this guy "GOD" there (what kind of megalomaniac or egotist names himself that? Blasphemous!) the

      "God that has never created anything, but, you have to have FAITH in him, in that he KNOWS WHAT HE IS TALKING ABOUT, with programming"

      & lol

      "GOD's code is TRULY FREE OF BUGS - the code with no lines in it, has no bugs - another one of 'GOD's miracles"...

      (LOL, I have this archived in its original form someplace it was so funny... so, what did the arstech gang go & do? Put MY NAME on his 'foaming @ the mouth' raging spittle spewing profane replies...

      He came out roaring, along with his other "friends" who defended him (that I discovered use the SAME EMAIL ADDRESS, lol, in other words it WAS GOD in ALL GUISES, lol, so to speak)... ROTFLMAO - Ah, it was classic! That, in turn, got him FOAMING with rage, a "real rise" came outta he, just like YOU today after MEK_LoveBUg's trashing of you... funny the similarities there, eh?

      ----

      I also note YOU are running from BOTH myself & MEK_LoveBug asking you now for some proofs... proof you are indeed, a professional programmer (after all, you claimed it & asked ME for proof of it

      (So... where's yours? Same place as the list of achievements in this science you DO NOT HAVE??)

      I'm telling anyone here reading, 1 thing:

      TROLLS, like ion.SIMIAN.c here? TOO Easy... to easy to goad, manipulate, & show them for who they REALLY are (despite them saying "I am a programmer" as ion.SIMIAN.c here says he is, but strangely, avoids HIS BIG THING, of "prove it"))... apk

    3. Re:ROTFLMAO (great job MEK_LoveBug, in your posts) by ion.simon.c · · Score: 1

      How could the Ars folks differentiate between your IP and mine?

      Moreover, why wouldn't you browse the forums through Tor? That works just fine.

    4. Re:ROTFLMAO (great job MEK_LoveBug, in your posts) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "How could the Ars folks differentiate between your IP and mine?" - by ion.simon.c (1183967) on Wednesday May 06, @02:12AM (#27842383)

      Uhm, easy: The IP address octets would be different (duh, obvious)... :)

      (E.G.-> You go & talk to them, let's say you have now... the thread has to be old in this case, I have not been there since 2001 posting iirc, & it's SO OLD THEN, it would be as you would say & did - a "wasteland thread"... So, on their end? Well, you see 2 IP's come back hitting the page, say, yours & mine?? Attack both OR ask you what YOUR IP was, & attack mine... get it??? To outthink the trolling opponent like you or they???? Think what they might try, & avoid it like mad! Pretty simple actually, beat them at a dumb game & don't fall for it - it bugs them to NO end!))

      Truthfully, by this point, as far as the "arseholes" ?(not all of them just the ones I have named & a few others (who are probably they posting under "alternate guises" as J. DeAngelis or Waarheid=Veritas=Reimer called it, but not those NOT involved in the example I used from Windows IT Pro?)

      I must actually THANK YOU for in your mentioning them, FIRST here!

      Just so I could further expose their crap to anyone reading here first of all...

      I ONLY DO SO IF SOMEONE MENTIONS THEM FIRST THOUGH, usually, like 9/10 times type odds!

      (or, asks who would be bothering me online, & they kept up a campaign of libel directed my way on their forums, the only place they can control it, because they surely showed their behinds over @ Windows IT Pro Magazine forums, lol, for over a decade. Talk about "online internet psycho-stalker freaks", so when I expose them? It's for their OWN GOOD, exposing them to a dose of their OWN medicine, & where THEY CANNOT CONTROL IT (which I know, irks the HELL out of them, especially Jeremy Reimer)).

      APK

      P.S.=>

      "Moreover, why wouldn't you browse the forums through Tor? That works just fine." - by ion.simon.c (1183967) on Wednesday May 06, @02:12AM (#27842383)

      Yet again, along with your accusing me of using alternate guises online to do bad things like trolls are known for + your saying "multiple nicks" &

      ----

      Also/By the way, again? You asked for proofs from me, you obtained them... now, both myself & others are asking of PROOFS FROM YOU:

      http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1219095&cid=27839849

      Answer won't you?

      You stated I ran from questions (& copy + pasted, I have to with you, you ask questions that are long ago answered here & in the links I put up as verification like on SeLinux + MAC/ACL similarities between SeLinux bearing distros & NT-based OS) - you now, once more, fail to "practice what you preach" once more... PROVE IT! I have to get ready for "earning my keep" & making money now, so, adios... apk

    5. Re:ROTFLMAO (great job MEK_LoveBug, in your posts) by ion.simon.c · · Score: 1

      Where's the copypasta that you promised me? I have a new reply to someone who's not you. It's more than an hour old.

    6. Re:ROTFLMAO (great job MEK_LoveBug, in your posts) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Where's the copypasta that you promised me? I have a new reply to someone who's not you. It's more than an hour old." - by ion.simon.c (1183967) on Wednesday May 06, @02:52AM (#27842609)

      I'm in NO hurry here... why? Well, because of your "almighty registered user status":

      http://slashdot.org/~ion.simon.c/comments

      (1 thing I don't think you & yours who are registered here, realize, is that in your doing so? YOU have become MASSIVELY & easily trackable here... think about it! So, if you're going to "troll" others, as you have myself here? I wouldn't recommend making it so easy for me to not only "troll you back", but also to point out what is in the URL link in my 'p.s.' below)

      APK

      P.S.=> I'd check those again were I you, because I am "holding to my word", & you only brought it on yourself by trolling me here, and based on your performance (lol, your lack thereof rather)?

      After all, the "bottom-line" here, is this - Anyone reading here or in your future posts can read this:

      http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1221343&cid=27831925

      and determine for themselves if you are a professional programmer or not, & easily (you're not - no coder I know would make such an abundance of mistakes, & you keep avoiding what you are so "BIG" on, which is asking for proof... I prove I did so @ your request, humoring/indulging you, because I do backup what I state (you clearly? DO NOT!))... apk

  217. Ion.SIMIAN.c: I'll make you a PROMISE (see my ps) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    LMAO... again, you're just giving away your "modus operandi", w/ your:

    ----

    "It's this AC and his sockpuppet" - by ion.simon.c (1183967) on Tuesday May 05, @06:19PM (#27838853)

    Comment, just as you did here:

    "157 posts with a single nick in two days?" - by ion.simon.c (1183967) on Tuesday May 05, @04:20AM (#27827795)

    ----

    In stating "I only used 1 nick to do so" -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1219095&cid=27827795 (at this point, it is obvious to myself you are a multiple identity online troll is all).

    Trolls: They're ALL the same, & usually TOO stupid to realize they give away how they operate (while trying to sound "cool & collected" as ion.SIMIAN.c has in the post I am replying to now here)

    It was terribly funny how MEK_LoveBug beat the HELL out of you all thru this exchange, & so BADLY, you've run from commenting tonite...

    I mean - you ordinarily 'stick it out' even though you mess up badly (too bad you finally realized your "trolling jedi mind tricks" don't work on me, they only make me more determined to do you in here is all, & I LOVE KNOCKING TROLLS FLAT OUT).

    HOWEVER? Well, no small wonder that you ran, after this:

    http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1221343&cid=27831925

    (LMAO!)

    Remember: YOU BROUGHT THIS ON YOURSELF!

    I mean, hey - From near the get-go here, I tried to warn you, leave me be, don't mess with me & that you don't possess the intellect, experience, or skill to drag me down to YOUR level & get the better of me (the level you are at, of a lying trolilng scumbag, & that kind tries to "drag you down to their level & beat you with experience")... Sorry to disappoint you, but it'd most likely take somekind of skull trauma to make me have a "10 below plantlife IQ" like yours has shown itself to be, & when I get asked for proofs? I provide them, unlike yourself

    (So, prove to us, for once, that you are a professional programmer as you stated, won't you? YOU asked ME for proofs of that, I backed up my words & provided them... you clearly demand proofs from others when you are "going down" in threads, so, let's see some PROOF FROM YOU, of your words, for once...)

    APK

    P.S.=> Ion.SIMIAN.c, this wasn't as fun as I thought it would be... mainly, because You're "TOO Easy", too stupid, and too uncool not to do this to, but, you also were TOO easy to destroy (you did THAT, only to yourself too, mind you, with massive errors here)

    So, thus "you reap what you sow" & I promise you something, right now:

    That posting of mine that shows your errors in this exchange? Well, that is going to go into EVERY ONE OF YOUR POSTS here, until you can't stand it anymore, & change your nick/handle here (I've done it before to trolling weakling wannabe's like you here, and elsewhere, so it's nothing new to me (getting rid of "trolling pests" like you? MY SPECIALTY, & I delight in it))... apk

  218. Re:Ion.SIMIAN.c: I'll make you a PROMISE (see my p by ion.simon.c · · Score: 1

    Are saying that you're going to dump your copypasta into every post that I make from here on out? Oh, the horror.
    If you are serious about this, do add a link to your very first comment, so's bored folks with an hour to kill can see the entire thread in all its glory.

  219. NOW I KNOW YOU'RE NOT A PROGRAMMER by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "How could the Ars folks differentiate between your IP and mine?" - by ion.simon.c (1183967) on Wednesday May 06, @02:12AM (#27842383)

    The short & sweet version? The IP address would be different (duh!)

    LOL, man, you just ASKING that, tells me worlds on the question MEK_LoveBug & I have been asking that YOU provide proof of, see my subject line as to the "pronosis" thusfar, & you're leading me to THAT as a diagnosis by your evasion of it (though YOU "DEMAND" proof from others, & when you get it, your "that is not enough detail" trolling b.s. doesn't work (it may on the weak minded, but "Jedi Mind Tricks" don't work on me (they sure do you though, lol)).

    I posted a longer version, regretting it now (might give a dullard like you, ideas) as it outlined what I strongly suspect you might try, the link you posted being VERY old & all, it would be child's play to track, as it would be what YOU called this thread here "a wasteland" & not many viewing it.

    APK

    P.S.=>

    "Moreover, why wouldn't you browse the forums through Tor? That works just fine. - by ion.simon.c (1183967) on Wednesday May 06, @02:12AM (#27842383)

    Listen, you keep "showing me your tell"... I'll give you some free advice - don't try to "play smart" with me, I warned you of that by the 3rd post here of mine iirc... In the end? I'll just turn it against you (you're doing quite nicely on that on that account, per this -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1221343&cid=27831925 LOL!)

    You've already alluded to your "modus operandi" here via this below already:

    ----

    "You made 157 posts with a single nick in two days?" - by ion.simon.c (1183967) on Tuesday May 05, @04:20AM (#27827795)

    ----

    You really ARE "transparent" aren't you? You're stating that from the quote of your words above just now (the nick part) ontop of your use of TOR onion routers (why not mention anonymous proxy lists too?) only tells me you're just another "multiple guises online" loser and it probably does anyone reading also!

    Damn, you are not only an amateur @ computing saavy, but also LIFE imo @ this point - CLUE: YOU can't outfox "the fox".

    Your puny moves? They're ones just like Jeremy Reimer, Jay Little, & Jarrett DeAngelis who did the same thing, & were caught in it + forced to finally admit they not only impersonated me, but also were busted posting under different usernames, so they could try to "gang up on me" - GOOD, I welcome that too, as it only makes me look better blowing away an entire horde than it does 1 person only.

    (Especially Jarrett DeAngelis, who tried to lie about who he was, & where he was from (but he had NO idea how easily I can determine that once I set my mind to it))

    HE tried to do over @ the windows it pro magazine forums, lie like hell @ first... when he was caught? His credibility was shot & he knew it, and along with that went his nerve...

    I trashed them all, RIGHT out of there, even to the point where the doctoral candidate student J. DeAngelis started agreeing with MOST of what I said, & I shut off FatBoy "Jay Little" with his own errors on Exchange Server (despite his braggadocio of "I AM AN EXCHANGE EXPERT" literally coming from him, first... so much for the "experts of arstechnica", eh?).

    You're just like them, only even more stupid. I.E.? You're TOO easy! apk

    1. Re:NOW I KNOW YOU'RE NOT A PROGRAMMER by ion.simon.c · · Score: 1

      No, no, no.
      How do they know *your* IP address?

    2. Re:NOW I KNOW YOU'RE NOT A PROGRAMMER by ion.simon.c · · Score: 1

      And, moreover, what would they *do* with your IP address if they had it?
      You're a security expert, and they're a bunch of wannabes, remember?

  220. We want YOUR proofs 1st, ion.simIAn.c by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Both MEK & I are asking for what you are "big on" now though, since you said it yourself:

    "Your standards of proof, just like those of the AC who claims to be APK, are inadequate." - by ion.simon.c (1183967) on Wednesday May 06, @01:17AM (#27842127)

    You always state you want proof, well, since you said you are a programmer? PROVE IT!

    (He wrote me, asked me a question, I gave an answer... can you tell he & I what that answer is, also?)

    APK

    P.S.=> You had ME do the same, so, now "the shoes on the other foot"... After all, you said you were a professional programmer, so, prove it! apk

    1. Re:We want YOUR proofs 1st, ion.simIAn.c by ion.simon.c · · Score: 1

      If you were smart, you'd write up a little script that scraped my user page for new posts every ten minutes or so and posted some of your copypasta to each one.
      If you were *really* smart, you'd do all this through a good proxy, so the admins here wouldn't catch on.

      Let's see how smart you are. :)

      Also, I have outstanding questions:
      http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1219095&cid=27809231

      Until they are answered to my standards, I have nothing more for you.

  221. Yes, yes, yes... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1219095&cid=27842631

    Re-read it, drink it in, & digest it... it's ALL there, so, perhaps "hooked on phonics" might be in order for YOU!

    APK

  222. No more question/answer 2 you, & proof from U! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1219095&cid=27842631

    Re-read it, drink it in, & digest it... it's ALL there, so, perhaps "hooked on phonics" might be in order for YOU!

    PLUS, MEK_LoveBug and myself have been asking for what you are "BIG ON" & demanded from myself... proof! Proof you are indeed a professional programmer... so, I put out mine, where is yours?

    (Same place as you list of accomplishments in this field that's bigger OR better than my own I had to produce as one of your "requirements"??)

    APK

    P.S.=> By this point, I've answered ALL of your questions here, so your trolling "delaying tactics" are over with, you get no more evasive questions of yours answered by myself - & that is that.

    Anyone interested can read this URL & judge "whom is getting the better of whom" via this URL (pretty much says it all):

    http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1221343&cid=27831925

    (AND, based on your sheer number of TECHNICAL ERRORS in this exchange? I'd nearly guarantee they're NOT going to say YOU got the better of ME - unless being incorrect on many things has become "the new win" lately, that is... & I do not believe it has!)

    apk

  223. Layered security, NTLMv1 & v2, LanMan, Server by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Not much!

    Especially after this:

    ----

    HOW TO SECURE Windows 2000/XP/Server 2003, & even VISTA, + make it 'fun-to-do', via CIS Tool Guidance (& beyond):

    http://www.tcmagazine.com/forums/index.php?s=d92e1af0e02fb341317f7d617b83fdfd&showtopic=2662

    ----

    As I don't advertise shares here, via cutting off the "SERVER service" alone can do...

    That's as far as getting to my data on disk!

    (However, there are vulnerabilities that aren't disclosed either so, I avoid giving away information I don't have to such as my IP addres, ala your SMB question for example, & NTLMv1 vs. NTLMv2 issues (version 1 had DES encryption usage vulnerabilities in LanMan networking (NetBIOS stuff & good ole' port 139 &/or 445)))

    That's the thing, the stuff NOBODY has disclosed or discovered that you can BANK on it, some people DO know about, + how to exploit it!

    (NULL session hacks, anyone? I'm easily immune to that also, since I am a single machine only here (online on the internet single system), & my server service is stalled (saving RAM + other forms of I/O also)... Plus, other settings too, which are EASILY controlled via registry hacks, just like using NTLMv1 vs. NTLMv2, & they have GUI fronts for the latter alongside Group Policies you can set on them also (as well as local policies))...

    "Layered security" is the trend, & I go into ALL of this, in the URL above...

    (Still, one never knows, & I am just being safe!)

    APK

    P.S.=> I have NO need, desire, or sufficient motivation to visit arstechnica, sorry... & just being safe, & avoiding potential hassles is all! apk

  224. Layered security, NTLMv1 & v2, LanMan, Server by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Not much!

    Especially after this:

    ----

    HOW TO SECURE Windows 2000/XP/Server 2003, & even VISTA, + make it 'fun-to-do', via CIS Tool Guidance (& beyond):

    http://www.tcmagazine.com/forums/index.php?s=d92e1af0e02fb341317f7d617b83fdfd&showtopic=2662

    ----

    As I don't advertise shares here, via cutting off the "SERVER service" alone can do...

    That's as far as getting to my data on disk!

    (However, there are vulnerabilities that aren't disclosed either so, I avoid giving away information I don't have to such as my IP addres, ala your SMB question for example, & NTLMv1 vs. NTLMv2 issues (version 1 had DES encryption usage vulnerabilities in LanMan networking (NetBIOS stuff & good ole' port 139 &/or 445)))

    That's the thing, the stuff NOBODY has disclosed or discovered that you can BANK on it, some people DO know about, + how to exploit it!

    (NULL session hacks, anyone? I'm easily immune to that also, since I am a single machine only here (online on the internet single system), & my server service is stalled (saving RAM + other forms of I/O also)... Plus, other settings too, which are EASILY controlled via registry hacks, just like using NTLMv1 vs. NTLMv2, & they have GUI fronts for the latter alongside Group Policies you can set on them also (as well as local policies))...

    "Layered security" is the trend, & I go into ALL of this, in the URL above...

    (Still, one never knows, & I am just being safe!)

    APK

    P.S.=> I have NO need, desire, or sufficient motivation to visit arstechnica, sorry... & just being safe, & avoiding potential hassles is all!

    And, don't avoid the question MEK_LoveBug and I have been asking you for (which is what you demanded from myself & I put it up, PROOFS): Provide proof you are what you claim you are in being a professional programmer... apk

  225. NTLMv1 weak DES (LanMan-NETBIOS-139/445 ports) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Is the the traditional form of SMB password handling secure or insecure? Why or why not? - by ion.simon.c (1183967) on Monday May 04, @10:08PM (#27825411)

    Insecure due to incorrect DES encryption handling, NTLMv2 is the way... changeable in Secpol.msc "Network Security:" sections of it. In fact, see my guide below for specifics!

    (I wrote about this years to DECADES ago &? In both versions of my security guide, give me a break - Learn to READ... please.)

    ----

    "And, moreover, what would they *do* with your IP address if they had it?" - by ion.simon.c (1183967) on Wednesday May 06, @03:37AM (#27842843)

    Not much! I.E.-> About as good a performance out of the arstechnica gang, as you did here -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1221343&cid=27831925 lmao!

    AND, I can say that... Especially after this:

    ----

    HOW TO SECURE Windows 2000/XP/Server 2003, & even VISTA, + make it 'fun-to-do', via CIS Tool Guidance (& beyond):

    http://www.tcmagazine.com/forums/index.php?s=d92e1af0e02fb341317f7d617b83fdfd&showtopic=2662

    ----

    As I don't advertise shares here, via cutting off the "SERVER service" alone can do...

    That's as far as getting to my data on disk!

    (However, there are vulnerabilities that aren't disclosed either so, I avoid giving away information I don't have to such as my IP addres, ala your SMB question for example, & NTLMv1 vs. NTLMv2 issues (version 1 had DES encryption usage vulnerabilities in LanMan networking (NetBIOS stuff & good ole' port 139 &/or 445)))

    That's the thing, the stuff NOBODY has disclosed or discovered that you can BANK on it, some people DO know about, + how to exploit it!

    Another E.G. -> NULL session hacks, anyone?

    I'm easily immune to that also, since I am a single machine only here (online on the internet single system), & :

    ----

    1.) My server service is stalled (saving RAM + other forms of I/O also + I don't need to share anything)

    2.) I manually stop shares as well, via:

    NET SHARE ADMIN$ /DELETE
    NET SHARE IPC$ /DELETE
    NET SHARE DFS$ /DELETE
    NET SHARE COMCFG$ /DELETE
    NET SHARE FAX$ /DELETE
    NET SHARE NETLOGON /DELETE
    NET SHARE PRINT$ /DELETE
    NET USE * /DELETE

    3.) I also disable File and Print sharing + Client for Microsoft Networks & disable NetBIOS over Tcp/IP here, via IP settings dialogs in the Local Network connection

    4.) Plus, other settings too, which are EASILY controlled via registry hacks, just like using NTLMv1 vs. NTLMv2, & they have GUI fronts for the latter alongside Group Policies you can set on them also (as well as local policies)...

    ----

    (That all only takes me minutes, as I have much of the gui tools memorized once I am in them, & the registry settings .reg file mergeable easily, automating the entire process into minutes of work. Layered Security @ work & it works...)

    "Layered security" is the trend, & I go into ALL of this, in the URL above...

    (Still, one never knows, & I am just being safe, smart, & cool as I don't go looking for trouble with idiots, but I won't "lay down like a dog & roll over" for them either, but then, you know that now, don't you? LOL!)

    APK

    P.S.=>

    "You're a security expert, and they're a bunch of wannabes, remember?" - by ion.simon.c (1183967) on Wednesday May 06, @03:37AM (#27842843)

    I have NO need, desire, or sufficient motivation to visit arstechnica, sorry... & just being safe, & avoiding potential hassle

  226. Not much can be done vs. this setup by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And, moreover, what would they *do* with your IP address if they had it?" - by ion.simon.c (1183967) on Wednesday May 06, @03:37AM (#27842843)

    Nothing, as nothing can get thru this kind of setup with a semi-saavy user even -> http://www.tcmagazine.com/forums/index.php?s=0e0939a8079638d64fd73a81b7f302dc&showtopic=2662

    (Still, I don't take chances, & I don't invite trouble or start it for no good reason either)

    ----

    "You're a security expert" - by ion.simon.c (1183967) on Wednesday May 06, @03:37AM (#27842843)

    If you say so, & thank you I suppose.

    ----

    and they're a bunch of wannabes, remember?" - by ion.simon.c (1183967) on Wednesday May 06, @03:37AM (#27842843)

    Again, not everyone there is like Jeremy Reimer, Jay Little, or Jarrett DeAngelis (or you, what with your 'sock puppet', TOR, & single nick references, showing us all YOUR tell & modus operandi)...

    APK

    P.S.=> Answer the question MEK_LoveBug & myself asked of you, which is what YOU are "big on" in PROOF (which I provided, now it's YOUR TURN) -> Prove to us all you are a professional programmer, since you stated you were & demanded it of myself... I wish you do better though, than you did here -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1221343&cid=27831925 , lol! apk

  227. We'll never see YOUR PROOF will we, ion.simIAn.c? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Until they are answered to my standards, I have nothing more for you." - by ion.simon.c (1183967) on Thursday May 07, @12:59AM (#27855779)

    Your questions were ALL answered here:

    http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1219095&cid=27853857

    and, here:

    http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1219095&cid=27806379

    If you want more detail than that? I'd suggest looking @ articles on NT ACL's (Dr. Mark Russinovich did an entire series of them, and they take up MANY PAGES (which is not what I am willing to do here, because it'd take several posts to fit even 1 in I imagine).

    Those articles go into more detail, & each deals in things like:

    1.) ACL Editor Documentation
    2.) The mechanisms of NT's robust security system (SIDS, Access Tokens, C2 Security, Impersonation, Security Descriptors, Priveleges, & Policies).

    However, as noted by the subject-line here? YOU are avoiding a simple question, & something you demand of others: PROOF!

    (Proof that you are indeed, a professional programmer, since you stated you were & demanded it of myself, and I provided some proofs thereof)

    APK

    P.S.=> Then again, we've already seen your "fine performance" on things technical in this list of that, here:

    http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1221343&cid=27831925

    apk

  228. It appears YOUR PROOFS will never appear here by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Until they are answered to my standards, I have nothing more for you." - by ion.simon.c (1183967) on Thursday May 07, @12:59AM (#27855779)

    Your questions were ALL answered here:

    http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1219095&cid=27853857

    and, here:

    http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1219095&cid=27806379

    If you want more detail than that? I'd suggest looking @ articles on NT ACL's & Security (Dr. Mark Russinovich & Windows IT Pro magazine (as Windows NT magazine, Windows 2000 magazine as their title back then) did an entire series of them, and they take up MANY PAGES (which is not what I am willing to do here, because it'd take several posts to fit even 1 in I imagine)).

    Those articles go into more detail, & each deals in things like:

    1.) ACL Editor Documentation
    2.) The mechanisms of NT's robust security system (SIDS, Access Tokens, C2 Security, Impersonation, Security Descriptors, Priveleges, & Policies).

    However, as noted by the subject-line here? YOU are avoiding a simple question, one both myself and MEK_LoveBug wanted answered by you, & funny you do that, when PROOF is clearly something you demanded of others all throughout this exchange...

    (Proof that you are indeed, a professional programmer, since you stated you were & demanded it of myself, and I provided some proofs thereof)

    APK

    P.S.=> Then again, we've already seen your "fine performance" on things technical in this list of that, here:

    http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1221343&cid=27831925

    apk

  229. No, you're only showing us your tell... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Listen, you keep "showing me your tell"... I'll give you some free advice - don't try to "play smart" with me, I warned you of that by the 3rd post here of mine iirc... In the end? I'll just turn it against you (you're doing quite nicely on that on that account, per this -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1221343&cid=27831925 LOL!)

    You've already alluded to your "modus operandi" here via this below already:

    ----

    "Moreover, why wouldn't you browse the forums through Tor? That works just fine." - by ion.simon.c (1183967) on Wednesday May 06, @02:12AM (#27842383)

    "You made 157 posts with a single nick in two days?" - by ion.simon.c (1183967) on Tuesday May 05, @04:20AM (#27827795)

    "It's this AC and his sockpuppet" - by ion.simon.c (1183967) on Tuesday May 05, @06:19PM (#27838853)

    "Also, you may wish to start folks from the beginning http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1219095&cid=27792899 sockpuppet. ;)" - by ion.simon.c (1183967) on Tuesday May 05, @06:21PM (#27838879)

    Hey, I'm ALL for that & I'll wholeheartedly agree with you for once on that much - I welcome ANYONE reading this, ever, to read this exchange from the beginning & see who did what + whom "got the better of whom"... absolutely!

    ----

    This whole "bent" of yours, without proof? It's only showing us, how you yourself, operate...

    (I.E.-> You don't know me personally nor you have no proof of myself doing this (which is what you demand of others & I provided all questions answered you asked (minus writing out a small book, which is rare for me to NOT do actually), & proofs that I am indeed a pro in this field after you had accused me of not being so no less... and you fail to provide the same despite your claim of being a pro coder? Please...))

    Man, lol... You really ARE "transparent" though... aren't you?

    I mean, hey - You're stating that stuff, those methods alone, from the quotes of your words above just now (the nick, + socket puppet ones), ontop of your use of TOR onion routers (why not mention anonymous proxy lists too)?

    That all only tells me you're just another "multiple guises online" loser, and it probably does anyone reading also!

    CLUE: YOU can't outfox "the fox"... ( &, "I see you")

    I mean, lol... Your puny moves you make & clues you give that "show your tell" here?

    They're exactly like the ones just like Jeremy Reimer, Jay Little, & Jarrett DeAngelis of arstehnica (whom YOU brought up here first no less) who did the same thing, & were caught in it + forced to finally admit they not only impersonated me, but also were busted posting under different usernames, so they could try to "gang up on me" - GOOD, I welcome that too, as it only makes me look better blowing away an entire horde than it does 1 person only.

    (Especially Jarrett DeAngelis, who tried to lie about who he was, & where he was from (but he had NO idea how easily I can determine that once I set my mind to it))

    HE tried to do over @ the windows it pro magazine forums, lie like hell @ first... when he was caught? His credibility was shot
    & he knew it, and along with that went his nerve...

    I trashed them all, RIGHT out of there, even to the point where:

    A.) The Notre Dame postgrad masters/doctoral candidate student J. DeAngelis started agreeing with MOST of what I said

    B.) I shut off FatBoy "Jay Little" with his own errors on Exchange Server (despite his braggadocio of "I AM AN EXCHANGE EXPERT", following me around to other forums afterwards and getting himself banned there and losing once more on technical issues being discussed since he went into posts I had made

  230. secure by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I heard they distributed a blank CD. pretty damn secure

  231. You're a liar ion.simon.c by MEK_LoveBug · · Score: 1

    I know that YOU are a liar by this point, Ion.simon.c because you avoid my question to you asking for proof of your professional status as a programmer. It is obvious by now that though you demand proof from others you are unwilling or unable (the latter in this case) to provide proofs yourself. You are trying to get the better of your betters and it cost you your reputation here because you lied about being a professional programmer and are unwilling to disprove my statement calling you a liar. After seeing the list of errors you made I was almost certain you lied about being a programmer and now I have no doubt that you are not a programmer because you evade answering a simple question asking you for proof of if you are a programmer or not. I also just watched the film THE WATCHMEN and the very beginning of the film where THE COMEDIAN is trying to defeat OZYMANDIAS reminds me of this exchange between the ac apk and yourself, and you are definitely THE COMEDIAN in this case (except you are not funny and the beating you are taking isn't even funny anymore)

  232. Gigabyte IRAM, Windows & Linux ring a bell? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "I've already "gotten the better" of you. I did this the very first time that I closed a thread with you" - by ion.simon.c (1183967) on Monday May 04, @10:20PM (#27825529)

    Oh, really? Is that why you RAN from these 3 simple questions there:

    http://hardware.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1061185&cid=26161101

    AND, Just like there? You are running from SIMPLE questions, where you called the Gigabyte IRAM a "finicky piece of trash", but that piece of trash works FINE on Windows... & yet, it does not on Linux!

    Explain that, & it appears the "finicky piece of junk", IS LINUX, not Windows OR the IRAM...

    (And, just like the 3 questions I asked you there, and you RAN from them also? You're also running from the ones in my p.s. below now, avoiding them @ any cost as you did those above...)

    Who are you trying to fool here?

    (ROTFLMAO... "too easy")

    APK

    P.S.=> Like I told you around my 2-3rd post here? I'll outsmart you, & largely with your own screwups, as I did here in the end of this -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1229883&cid=27930695 which was, again "TOO easy"... apk

  233. Linux, & the Gigabyte IRAM "ring a bell"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "I've already "gotten the better" of you. I did this the very first time that I closed a thread with you" - by ion.simon.c (1183967) on Monday May 04, @10:20PM (#27825529)

    Oh, really? Is that why you RAN from these 3 simple questions there:

    http://hardware.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1061185&cid=26161101

    ----

    Answer this simple set of questions, enumerated 1-3 below, since you said the "Gigabyte IRAM is a 'finicky piece of trash'" etc. et al on your part:

    After all, you said this, here, in this very discussion:

    ----

    http://hardware.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1061185&cid=26102285

    "Heh. The i-RAM is a finicky chunk of trash."- by ion.simon.c (1183967) on Saturday December 13, @09:55AM (#26102285)

    ----

    So, since you said that? Well, back it up, vs. these 3 simple questions you now refuse to answer:

    1.) Does the IRAM run on Windows reliably? ANSWER = YES...

    2.) Does the IRAM run on Linux reliably?? ANSWER (per your sources no less) = NO...

    3.) Since the IRAM runs on Windows well, but not Linux, well... what is the "piece of trash" here (what is it YOU called the IRAM? A "finicky piece of trash"??)??? ANSWER (obviously) = LINUX...

    Ah, yes: Nothing like trashing another "arstechnica wannabe", publicly, online... & your SILENCE vs. those questions? IS GOLDEN... lol!

    APK

    P.S.=> As the saying goes? "TOO easy"... apk

    ----

    AND, Just like there? You are running from SIMPLE questions, here in the url in my p.s. below!

    Who are you trying to fool here?

    Clearly, once more/again - YOU PLAYED YOURSELF with another lie, or rather it seems in YOUR case, ion.SIMIAN.c, a delusional mind on your part... because anyone can see you RUN LIKE A BEYOTCH from valid questions you screw up on, badly... above, & in my p.s. below!

    (ROTFLMAO... "too easy")

    APK

    P.S.=> He's certainly NOT a programmer (though he CLAIMS HE IS, & evidently, not much of a techie even either per the IRAM exchange above as well) because, after all?

    Well, he asked ME for proof of that on my part, & I freely provided it... however, you ask ion.SIMIAN.c to do the same? You get evasions, like here (@ least 6-7 times now he has evaded this no less) -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1229883&cid=27930929 ... TOO easy! apk

  234. Go away botmaster ion.simon.c by MEK_LoveBug · · Score: 1

    You sound like a botmaster who is trying to convince others that running unsecured is enough so he can take advantage of them being unsecured as the ac apk outlined how to do it along with his written quoted testimonials of others who have been free of such things as malwares for going on 2 years currently because of them applying his guide. I used it also and I used to be infested by bad ad banners and bad websites but the ac apk's advice of just turning off javascript has me not getting any infections like I used to. His ideas work and I am not a computer guru by any stretch of the imagination. I am glad I used his guide. Go away botmaster ion.simon.c, please.