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You are replying to my post about it being a success to me and how OSS doesn't need to be popular to be a success.

Being "Not profitable" is not the same as making money.

On the revenue front, Canonical’s fiscal year runs April 2010 to March 2011. Asay predicts Canonical will “do multiples over what we did last year. We’re starting from a good [revenue] number and we’ll do several times more than in the previous year.”

If Asay says they predict to make more money then last year how can you argue with that? Since they're an ltd anyway there's no way for you or I to know.

Your replies have included how it doesn't work on your hardware and some weird stats on linux popularity which I have no interest in anyway since my post was about how popularity doesn't equal success. Also web stats tell nothing about computer usage. So some % of linux users didn't get counted in the past two months.. meaningless data that you're trying to give meaning to.

Getting back on topic.. you basically didn't read my original post to begin with at all.

So I insulted you.. I called you "a whiner", and you are. You completely ignored any context to my post and went on a rant about how Ubuntu doesn't work on your laptop and because it doesn't work on your laptop it's the end of days! users are dropping like flies because Kjella can't get his laptop to work!

You complain about me insulting you then call me a "fucking retard" and a "pathetic prick". Seems to me a bit of a double standard and really you deserved being called a whiner the way you replied out of context to anything I said.

Also I'm not trying to get rid of you.. YOU YOURSELF SAID YOU DO NOT WANT TO USE IT! SO DON'T!

I dual boot to Windows 7 and I'm seriously considering abandoning Linux and just run Windows

If some thing isn't working for you to the point where you can write a four paragraphed drama piece about how it sucks so bad.. why do you bother to continue using it?!

In conclusion I think the linux community can live without negative people like yourself which contributes nothing but whining. I on the other hand have at least tried to fix problems rather then give ultimatums about going back to windows if my unique situation isn't fixed.

Actually Ubuntu Server makes gains at SUSE Linux' expense. And Canonical, IBM: Expanded Ubuntu DB2 Cloud Partnership Coming.

While I'd use Ubuntu on my desktop, I plan on installing it on my MacBook Pro, I don't know which distro I'd use for a server. I've got a PC that's almost 5 years old and I want to upgrade it as a server when I do I may try different distros.

They run it as a desktop OS that replaces Windows and requires minimal fucking around to set up and use... And there are a lot of people (myself included) who would be running Windows now if Ubuntu weren't so functional out of the box.

I'd be using MS Windows if MS weren't such dicks. I switched from Windows, to Linux first then Mac OS X, because I was sick and tired of crashes and don't like being treated like a criminal. Which is what Activation and WGA/WPA do.

Falcon

Hmm, looks like I was right. You probably googled and saw those ancient comparisons from 2007. Here is a modern day comparison showing that the binary driver rapes nouveau in 2d performance.

In terms of performance, however, it’s clear that nouveau has a ways to go, at least on my hardware. I used glxgears (yes, it’s not a good tool for benchmarking overall video performance, but it’s a useful basis for standardized comparison of FPS rates under different video drivers) to measure video frames per second under the nouveau, nv and nvidia (closed-source) drivers. The tests were run with desktop effects turned off and the system idling. The average FPS rates were as follows:
nouveau: 355.3
nv: 475.8
nvidia (version 96, from Ubuntu repositories): 1993

Hey Hairyfeet like your posts, just disagree with a few here and there, however even when I disagree I can see the experience, the real life experience in your posts.

Have to disagree with this statement:

These companies are NOT gonna release their source code, at least not now in this hostile climate, but what they WILL do is put drivers on CDs, and penguins on the boxes if you'll let them, because nobody like cutting off potential customers.

Specifically the if you'll let them part. No one is stopping them, besides perhaps Microsoft (and many would debate that...so sad ) . When you have projects like the Linux Driver Project, companies have no excuse not to make device drivers available to customers. No reasonable excuses that is.

But expecting users in 2009 with a straight face to play paperweight roulette is just truly the height of arrogance and insanity.

Perhaps suggesting PCs and hardwares might end up as paper weights was not the best choice for an analogy. As this is exactly another reason why I loath Microsoft today, thanks to Vista, though admittedly I had been burned by Microsoft multiple times before than. The BSOD, GPFs and now the blacK Screens Of Death (KSODs) that have occurred after one of Microsoft's recent auto updates.

Microsoft was more than happy to play paperweight roulette as you call it with Vista and user PCs. Though I would suggest to you that with roulette you have a chance at winning, albeit a very small one. With Vista, there was absolutely no chance the old PCs running Vista. As they say hindsight is 20/20.

Can you say Vista, I knew you could...

The best solution for all PC users for hope of NOT being left with a paperweight is to purchase a PC, whose hardware will run Linux FIRST. If you want to run Vista or Windows 7, you can always run them, but if you are smart enough to purchase hardware that will run Linux first, that same hardware will run Linux in 10 years from now, when Microsoft will obviously no longer support either Vista or Windows 7.

I would suggest buying all future PC hardware from a Linux vendor, who knows which proprietary hardware to stay away from. Two that I know of are ZaReason and System 76. Of course a forward thinking person like yourself might see this opportunity for what it is and start creating systems that will run Linux and Windows 7...just a thought!

Perhaps Linux and open source should thank Microsoft, although I am not willing to do that for at least 7 years as I reset my 7 year clock (check my other posts for info about the 7 year clock), as System76’s 1Q 2009 revenue growth — 61 percent thanks to the Vista debacle and that is only one Linux vendor.

Seriously. With Ubuntu now in a "just works" state on most hardware, and Android tested by commercial entities to work out-of-the-box fro specific hardware, there is real choice. The lower cost of slick Linux devices and PCs compared to OS X premium hardware from Apple will start to take hold this year.

Ubuntu 9.04 had a serious regression on Intel integrated graphics, as did Fedora 10. The sad part is this used to "just work" - Intel's drivers are fully open source.

Intel holds nearly 50% of the PC graphics market share. It's tough to say that it "just works" when nearly half of the latest hardware has broken graphics support - including the nearly all of the netbooks that Linux is supposed to be so great for. I find it troubling that they shipped an OS that broke graphics performance on so many systems - why did this happen now, and what prevents it from happening again?

In all seriousness, I thought the "Linux on the desktop" model was dead several years ago. I can see how Enderle's point applies to Apple, but it seems an enormous stretch to predict that consumers will generally examine the desktop market as it exists today and opt for Linux over Vista, XP, or OS X. I realize Linux has gained ground in the netbook market and done well when debuted on systems that used customized distros. What's the larger picture?

In all seriousness, Linux on the desktop spanks any version of Windows silly.

The new version of the KDE desktop, KDE 4.1.3 or later, has worked out its initial teething troubles and now represent the only GPU-accelerated desktop for Linux, and as such is easily the fastest desktop available today, bar none. Because they use software rendering, not even "lightweight" Linux desktops such as LXDE or Fluxbox are as fast. KDE4 runs all of the compiz-style bling (including the desktop cube and 4 desktops), it is scriptable, it runs KDE3 or GTK applications easily and pretty well integrated, and it has innovative new desktop facets such as strigi, nepomuk et al, and it can run Google widgets, OSX widgets or Plasmoids at the same time (KDE 4.2+).

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20081202-hands-on-kde-4-2-beta-1.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4#KDE_4.2

If you desperately need to run the odd legacy Windows application, you can very likely run it under Wine with more compatibility than Vista offers, and faster than Vista can. If it fails to run under Wine, then you can still run a version of Windows virtually using your choice of two free and open-source Virtual Machine Managers:

VirtualBox OSE
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtualbox

Kernel-based Virtual Machine
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kernel-based_Virtual_Machine
http://www.howtoforge.com/virtualization-with-kvm-on-ubuntu-8.10

Wine
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wine_(software)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wine_(software)#64-bit_applications

Significantly, just this last year or so some larger OEMs have begun to offer desktop Linux pre-installed:

http://linux.dell.com/desktops.shtml
http://blogs.computerworld.com/with_hp_in_all_oems_now_ship_desktop_linux
http://www.informationweek.com/news/hardware/desktop/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=212400561&subSection=News
http://www.workswithu.com/2008/12/12/system76-launches-biometric-ubuntu-linux-laptops/

Finally, desktop Linux has (according to some measurements anyway) finally started to gain a measurable adoption rate, just 1.5% behind that of Mac OSX:

http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_os.asp

Vendors such as Canonical are actually finally putting some effort into promoting Linux as a usable, practical desktop OS:
http://www.workswithu.com/

No-one told Linux that it was "dead on the desktop". Linux is dominant in every other area of computing, from supercomputers to clusters to servers to infrastructure machines (such as routers) to embedded devices in general (such as cellphones),

In all seriousness, I thought the "Linux on the desktop" model was dead several years ago. I can see how Enderle's point applies to Apple, but it seems an enormous stretch to predict that consumers will generally examine the desktop market as it exists today and opt for Linux over Vista, XP, or OS X. I realize Linux has gained ground in the netbook market and done well when debuted on systems that used customized distros. What's the larger picture?

In all seriousness, Linux on the desktop spanks any version of Windows silly.

The new version of the KDE desktop, KDE 4.1.3 or later, has worked out its initial teething troubles and now represent the only GPU-accelerated desktop for Linux, and as such is easily the fastest desktop available today, bar none. Because they use software rendering, not even "lightweight" Linux desktops such as LXDE or Fluxbox are as fast. KDE4 runs all of the compiz-style bling (including the desktop cube and 4 desktops), it is scriptable, it runs KDE3 or GTK applications easily and pretty well integrated, and it has innovative new desktop facets such as strigi, nepomuk et al, and it can run Google widgets, OSX widgets or Plasmoids at the same time (KDE 4.2+).

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20081202-hands-on-kde-4-2-beta-1.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4#KDE_4.2

If you desperately need to run the odd legacy Windows application, you can very likely run it under Wine with more compatibility than Vista offers, and faster than Vista can. If it fails to run under Wine, then you can still run a version of Windows virtually using your choice of two free and open-source Virtual Machine Managers:

VirtualBox OSE
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtualbox

Kernel-based Virtual Machine
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kernel-based_Virtual_Machine
http://www.howtoforge.com/virtualization-with-kvm-on-ubuntu-8.10

Wine
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wine_(software)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wine_(software)#64-bit_applications

Significantly, just this last year or so some larger OEMs have begun to offer desktop Linux pre-installed:

http://linux.dell.com/desktops.shtml
http://blogs.computerworld.com/with_hp_in_all_oems_now_ship_desktop_linux
http://www.informationweek.com/news/hardware/desktop/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=212400561&subSection=News
http://www.workswithu.com/2008/12/12/system76-launches-biometric-ubuntu-linux-laptops/

Finally, desktop Linux has (according to some measurements anyway) finally started to gain a measurable adoption rate, just 1.5% behind that of Mac OSX:

http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_os.asp

Vendors such as Canonical are actually finally putting some effort into promoting Linux as a usable, practical desktop OS:
http://www.workswithu.com/

No-one told Linux that it was "dead on the desktop". Linux is dominant in every other area of computing, from supercomputers to clusters to servers to infrastructure machines (such as routers) to embedded devices in general (such as cellphones),