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The RIAA wanted this kind of a system last summer, back when Napster was arguing that it would not be able to effectively filter songs without completely shutting down the service. The filters that are already in place have so far proven Napster correct; people are either getting around the filters or not using Napster anymore. As I wrote in September, if I were a more cynical person, I would think that this move by the RIAA is intended to hurt Napster and independent artists and not to protect copyrights. Actually, I am a more cynical person, and "protecting copyright" at the expense of someone else's rights is like preventing automobile accidents by forcibly shutting down all roads.

My college has some courses similar to that which you mention, and believe it or not, it's a part of the history department...

You'd better be referring to Crossfire, and I use the same nick in relation to that as I do on /., but without the underscores...

If you aren't referring to Crossfire, you should be!

I should probably point out that I've never run into problems with the CCC (and I'd like to keep it that way) but I still don't like the power that they've taken for themselves in that AUP. It's overly broad.

I am actually a student at WPI doing one of my three major academic projects, the IQP, as a study of network use policy in competitive-level engineering and liberal arts schools.

After interviewing the senior system administrators at WPI, I have come to the conclusion that WPI operates as a laissez-faire environment emulated under a benevolent dictatorship. If memory serves, the network administrator used to work under a similar position under a defense contract firm, and has systems in place that could easily enable the staff to lock down practically every action that occurs on the WPI network.

But even though locking the network down could make his life a lot easier, he doesn't. He usually only puts his foot down in the path of anything that directly impedes academic activity. In the vast majority of cases, this means excessive bandwidth consumption. That, in it of itself, is good policy.

The problem is that this good system sits entirely on top of the staff's good will. Under the present AUP, the staff could radically change the system environment without violating a single rule, and as far as I can tell, the WPI administrative faculty wouldn't give a damn.

Still, you're going to find an interesting dichotomy among these schools. While my team is still researching this premise, it seems a very clear possibility that those schools with the heavier-handed policies offer their students the most protections. If some third party company or individual comes to WPI complaining about activity, even illegal activity from the campus network, the sysadmin staff will not reveal the perpetrator's information unless presented with a subpoena. When sent threatening correspondence from the RIAA, WPI hardly flinched.

A more liberal school which allows virtually any activity, claiming, for all intents and purposes, a common carrier status may be far more likely to reveal information to third parties, making the student directly responsible for any activity.

I'm not one to say which is better. I know I feel very comfortable using WPI's top-notch network. Where else can a club make money using WPI resources to host an FPS shooter tournament[If you're in the Boston or Greater Worcester area, drop me an e-mail for details]?

-Adam "Roxton" Augusta
Lord Captain of the Queen's Armies

I am actually a student at WPI doing one of my three major academic projects, the IQP, as a study of network use policy in competitive-level engineering and liberal arts schools.

After interviewing the senior system administrators at WPI, I have come to the conclusion that WPI operates as a laissez-faire environment emulated under a benevolent dictatorship. If memory serves, the network administrator used to work under a similar position under a defense contract firm, and has systems in place that could easily enable the staff to lock down practically every action that occurs on the WPI network.

But even though locking the network down could make his life a lot easier, he doesn't. He usually only puts his foot down in the path of anything that directly impedes academic activity. In the vast majority of cases, this means excessive bandwidth consumption. That, in it of itself, is good policy.

The problem is that this good system sits entirely on top of the staff's good will. Under the present AUP, the staff could radically change the system environment without violating a single rule, and as far as I can tell, the WPI administrative faculty wouldn't give a damn.

Still, you're going to find an interesting dichotomy among these schools. While my team is still researching this premise, it seems a very clear possibility that those schools with the heavier-handed policies offer their students the most protections. If some third party company or individual comes to WPI complaining about activity, even illegal activity from the campus network, the sysadmin staff will not reveal the perpetrator's information unless presented with a subpoena. When sent threatening correspondence from the RIAA, WPI hardly flinched.

A more liberal school which allows virtually any activity, claiming, for all intents and purposes, a common carrier status may be far more likely to reveal information to third parties, making the student directly responsible for any activity.

I'm not one to say which is better. I know I feel very comfortable using WPI's top-notch network. Where else can a club make money using WPI resources to host an FPS shooter tournament[If you're in the Boston or Greater Worcester area, drop me an e-mail for details]?

-Adam "Roxton" Augusta
Lord Captain of the Queen's Armies

I am actually a student at WPI doing one of my three major academic projects, the IQP, as a study of network use policy in competitive-level engineering and liberal arts schools.

After interviewing the senior system administrators at WPI, I have come to the conclusion that WPI operates as a laissez-faire environment emulated under a benevolent dictatorship. If memory serves, the network administrator used to work under a similar position under a defense contract firm, and has systems in place that could easily enable the staff to lock down practically every action that occurs on the WPI network.

But even though locking the network down could make his life a lot easier, he doesn't. He usually only puts his foot down in the path of anything that directly impedes academic activity. In the vast majority of cases, this means excessive bandwidth consumption. That, in it of itself, is good policy.

The problem is that this good system sits entirely on top of the staff's good will. Under the present AUP, the staff could radically change the system environment without violating a single rule, and as far as I can tell, the WPI administrative faculty wouldn't give a damn.

Still, you're going to find an interesting dichotomy among these schools. While my team is still researching this premise, it seems a very clear possibility that those schools with the heavier-handed policies offer their students the most protections. If some third party company or individual comes to WPI complaining about activity, even illegal activity from the campus network, the sysadmin staff will not reveal the perpetrator's information unless presented with a subpoena. When sent threatening correspondence from the RIAA, WPI hardly flinched.

A more liberal school which allows virtually any activity, claiming, for all intents and purposes, a common carrier status may be far more likely to reveal information to third parties, making the student directly responsible for any activity.

I'm not one to say which is better. I know I feel very comfortable using WPI's top-notch network. Where else can a club make money using WPI resources to host an FPS shooter tournament[If you're in the Boston or Greater Worcester area, drop me an e-mail for details]?

-Adam "Roxton" Augusta
Lord Captain of the Queen's Armies

Examples of each level of offense are given. Certainly, this list cannot completely list all violations; it can only show the areas into which violations might fall and attempts to offer guidelines about which action might fit into the area. CCC is the arbiter of the severity of the violation.
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Minor offense:
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Storage of copyright materials, only if it appears to have been possible that someone else might have stored the materials on the system (e.g. due to careless security of the system).
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Major offense:
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Storage of copyright materials, where it appears that the individual stored the material by their own hand. The materials might not have been absolutely known to have been copyright violations.
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Termination offense:
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Storage of copyright materials, where it appears that the individual stored the material by their own hand, where the copyright was obvious. Software packages are obvious violations, since anyone who ever saw a software distribution would be aware that the materials were not to be distributed.
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Pictures or sounds would only fall under major offenses, since they are not usually so definitively labeled. If we can determine that the picture came from a magazine or the sounds came from a CD, that would be a termination offense, since those media would be labelled as copyrighted sources.

The result will be termination of connectivity; note that networking fees are not refundable. An application for connectivity will not be accepted within a calendar year of the termination.

You are not allowed to exercise fair use rights to copyrighted material, exercising these rights is a termination offense! If you rip a CD that you own willfully to your own computer you are violating the WPI terms! Notice it never says the files have to be publically accessable, just that the files are stored on your computer! It also never states that you may store copyrighted files that you are legally entitled to - any copyrighted file counts!

Storing copyrighted files period is a major offense?!? Damnit, I suppose I'll have to delete my Windows install, my Linux install, my Office install, my Netscape install, ... all copyrighted, all legally installed! Not to mention the many .c and .pl files that I've written that are Copyrighted - by me. In fact, if any copyrighted file shows up on your machine, you can be disconnected - for the entire year - without hope of arbitration, and without getting the $250/$500 (10Mb/s or 100Mb/s connection) fee back. This would seem to give them way over-reaching power to disconnect anyone, since most systems don't like running without the copyrighted BIOS software... (Since it never specifies persistant storage, it would appear playing a DVD or a CD via computer also counts!)

If that weren't enough, the prefix says that this list does not list all violation! Not only that, but they are sole judge and jury as to the severity of the offense. I better not piss off anyone in the CCC!

What's even more annoying is that the residential policy is not mentioned on the network signup form or any of the ResNet pages!

Examples of each level of offense are given. Certainly, this list cannot completely list all violations; it can only show the areas into which violations might fall and attempts to offer guidelines about which action might fit into the area. CCC is the arbiter of the severity of the violation.
...
Minor offense:
...
Storage of copyright materials, only if it appears to have been possible that someone else might have stored the materials on the system (e.g. due to careless security of the system).
...
Major offense:
...
Storage of copyright materials, where it appears that the individual stored the material by their own hand. The materials might not have been absolutely known to have been copyright violations.
...
Termination offense:
...
Storage of copyright materials, where it appears that the individual stored the material by their own hand, where the copyright was obvious. Software packages are obvious violations, since anyone who ever saw a software distribution would be aware that the materials were not to be distributed.
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Pictures or sounds would only fall under major offenses, since they are not usually so definitively labeled. If we can determine that the picture came from a magazine or the sounds came from a CD, that would be a termination offense, since those media would be labelled as copyrighted sources.

The result will be termination of connectivity; note that networking fees are not refundable. An application for connectivity will not be accepted within a calendar year of the termination.

You are not allowed to exercise fair use rights to copyrighted material, exercising these rights is a termination offense! If you rip a CD that you own willfully to your own computer you are violating the WPI terms! Notice it never says the files have to be publically accessable, just that the files are stored on your computer! It also never states that you may store copyrighted files that you are legally entitled to - any copyrighted file counts!

Storing copyrighted files period is a major offense?!? Damnit, I suppose I'll have to delete my Windows install, my Linux install, my Office install, my Netscape install, ... all copyrighted, all legally installed! Not to mention the many .c and .pl files that I've written that are Copyrighted - by me. In fact, if any copyrighted file shows up on your machine, you can be disconnected - for the entire year - without hope of arbitration, and without getting the $250/$500 (10Mb/s or 100Mb/s connection) fee back. This would seem to give them way over-reaching power to disconnect anyone, since most systems don't like running without the copyrighted BIOS software... (Since it never specifies persistant storage, it would appear playing a DVD or a CD via computer also counts!)

If that weren't enough, the prefix says that this list does not list all violation! Not only that, but they are sole judge and jury as to the severity of the offense. I better not piss off anyone in the CCC!

What's even more annoying is that the residential policy is not mentioned on the network signup form or any of the ResNet pages!

they describe their hardware in the faq. however, as i recall from attending a talk hemos gave a few weeks back at wpi, those stats are all out of date. i think the ram in those boxen has doubled since the last update to the desciption, and is about to do so again.

...that can be found here. It's a college research project (by me and another person actually) that studies cross platform design, current software used for cross platform design and solutions to problems and design issues. It's a 90 page .pdf file. It also includes a survey on cross platform design and it's results. We did the research project in order to try and find out why many commercial companies do not create cross platform software, and to find solutions to the problems they claim. It is an interesting read I think.

P.S. Currently this is the next to final draft.

Personally, i think that WPI has a pretty good AUP, (which is not to say i haven't had problems with netops regarding a few violations, only one of which i was actually responsible for.) it doesn't say that they can read our email personal files and other miscellany, and it requires us not to go poking around. However, it doesn't say that they can't.

how do you feel about policies like that? It doesn't guarantee our privacy, but it doesn't infringe on it either. Is lack of a guarantee an implicit infringement?

Personally, i think that WPI has a pretty good AUP, (which is not to say i haven't had problems with netops regarding a few violations, only one of which i was actually responsible for.) it doesn't say that they can read our email personal files and other miscellany, and it requires us not to go poking around. However, it doesn't say that they can't.

how do you feel about policies like that? It doesn't guarantee our privacy, but it doesn't infringe on it either. Is lack of a guarantee an implicit infringement?

(And don't both posting ways around this - I know, I know, change your NIC and steal someone else's port (bad idea), IP masqing (requires someone with two adapters), and other ways that are against the acceptable usage policy anyway.)

For real fun, try the Iron Chef Drinking Experience.

http://www.wpi.edu/~riffraff/irongame.html
http://www.ironchef.com/irongame.shtml

God does not play dice with the universe. Albert Einstein

The first thing Linux needs to do is get a set of standards and stick with it. Too many distributions are too different. Many require their own configuration programs, directory structure and package managers. It makes going from one distro to another a huge chore in relearning the Linux distro. We can't have distributions branching off into multiple directions, we need to have a concerted effort and come up with standards so that all distributions work fundamentally the same. Instead of distros competeing with each other and working on their own projects and their own "standards", people should work together so that Linux can advance faster.

See with windows, every OS is the same, things like tech support, installing programs and helping new users do something is much easier on windows because everyone will know just how windows will work and how to get something done. With Linux you got different directory structures, different configuration program and config scripts, different package managers... How is someone suppose to help someone solve a problem in Linux when they can't even figure out how to get something to work on their distro!

Right now I'm doing a research project on cross platform development. One of the major reasons why companies don't create commercial products for linux is that they can't support the product on Linux systems do to the lack of standards and knowledge of Linux.

Anything that results in a move to kernel space execution and then back to user space execution is a call for a reschedule in a pre-emptive system. In the example, data coming from the ethernet device would cause an interrupt, the ethernet module would handle the data input, and then a reschedule would occur.

(And yes, Linux is round-robin - it chooses the order and length of timeslices based on some fancy stuff, but once you're through that, it's just round-robin. To those from WPI, I have only two words: "Fossil Lab.")

We need a new protocol for micropayments - something other than HTTP. Something designed for transactions - ensuring that both the client and server agree that the transaction is complete before it happens. That feature is missing in HTTP. Once you've sent the 200 OK packet, you've assumed the client agrees - the problem comes when the OK message never makes it to the client. The client then hits "stop" and presses the button again - in some cases, resulting in the action being done twice.

Then you have the problem of actually serving a micropayment - where does the money come from? Do you have a company that serves micropayments, where users have to pay for the service? Other problems come if you want to accept multiple forms of currency. I'm sure readers in Europe would just love being forced to open an account somewhere with American dollars. A Web-wide form of "currency" could either help or hinder - or you could simply auto-convert given some official rate from somewhere.

If you actually want to create a working micropayment system, you'll need to create some form of task group to look into it. The answer to the question you asked is that there are both political and technical problems that need solving before such a system can be created. The only way to implement micropayments well is via a brand new infrastructure. And that'll cost money and time.

The biggest issue that needs to be addressed in development is to design the games to be platform independant. You will not get any developers to create games specifically for linux, you will have to get them to create games for both linux and windows at the same time, or at least port their game from windows. The problem this leads to is that developers are not going to rewrite their game twice, hence the creation of companies like Loki, so the best thing developers need to do is to write their game for multiple platforms at the same time, using cross platform libraries(SDL is a very popular one) or better design techniques. There is alot of FUD about cross platform development (extreme performance loss, difficulty in designing...). Currently there is an interesting college research project going on that gives alot of good information about this topic. The server for research project goes up and down a lot so keep trying...

To this extent Open Source projects could be a great tool, as he/she could learn programming skill, and also how to communicate with others and appreciate their input as well as his/her contribution. Isolation leads very often to egotism, as my best friend (prodigy material) who attends Harvard can be. This is not your problem, but the value of people working together should be a lesson learned in school, although it is infrequently left to the student to discover.

Show him/her how parts of the kernel work, explain how Apache succeeds, show him/her slashdot and how geeks get together in large numbers too. Take him/her to COMDEX or one of those.

2 coal plants to replace the failed Chernobyl one emit 10.4 tons of uranium and 25.6 tons of thorium, and a total of 34,200 millicuries (34 curies) of radiation per year. So operating for a million years they would emit 34 million curies.

8 tons of Chernobyl fuel was blasted out of the plant, in addition to radioactive gas leaks. "Several million curies" to "50 million curies" were released.

If you want to see my screen shot of the EXACT SAME thing, then check it out. Notice I chose the contents page. Or if you don't believe that, try the Title page. Yes, the period is missing on the Read Aloud part. But it's still listed there.

That screen shot is real - whether they are serious or not is another question.

If you want to see my screen shot of the EXACT SAME thing, then check it out. Notice I chose the contents page. Or if you don't believe that, try the Title page. Yes, the period is missing on the Read Aloud part. But it's still listed there.

That screen shot is real - whether they are serious or not is another question.

for all those looking for more info, check out the lab's homepage http://fossil.wpi.edu. and also a little thanks to prof finkel for making the last project NOT involve a thousand reboots.

My school, WPI, recently received a grant from the NSF to build a Linux lab, which includes about 30 PIII-600mhz machines run SuSE 6.4, each of which is assigned to a pair of people to do with as they wish for the term. Last term it was used by the OS I class, followed by Distributed Systems (OS II) this term. The experience of coding low-level operating system software and in the process modifying the kernel yourself was in invaluable experience.

There was an internal error and one of the windows you were using will be closed. It is recommended that you save your work, close all programs, and then restart your computer.

If you don't believe me, look at this.

And if you'll excuse me, I need to save my work, close all programs, and restart my computer.

"I've always wondered why nobody has ever actually used nuclear explosives in civil engineering projects, if (and this is a BIG if) the blasts can be made reasonably radiologically clean."

it amazes me a little that someone talks about "radiological clean" blasts. There are no radiological clean nuclear blasts in nature and it is stupid to claim such thing.

The poster to whom you refer said reasonably clean, and made it a hypothetical. It'd be fine if it only produced a little residual radiation, since small amounts of radiation are good for you and might even reduce the local cancer risk. See any book or study on radiation hormesis; radiation is one of the many things that are deady in high doses but beneficial in low doses.

Here's the medical definition of hormesis.

Here's a Japanese study verifying radiation hormesis in laboratory animals.

Here's a page on radiation hormesis in humans.

During College we used Quake2 and the Build editor from Duke Nukem for walkthroughs of theatrical set designs. The actors and directors could check out all the passages behind the set and they could tell what sight-lines they would have to deal with.

We also used it for Virtual sets that we could project up on the back of the physical set and the actors could interact live with the Virtual set via the VR operator.

That's not quite entirely correct:

1. The energies of an atom is quantized.

2. Three-dimensional space is also quantized. See Zeno's Paradox.

Does anyone know if time is similiary quantized?

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"The issue today is the same as it has been throughout all history, whether man shall be allowed to govern himself or be ruled by a small elite." -- Thomas Jefferson

The only way people get estimates to the contrary is by doing a straight-line estimation. So if being forced to drink ten gallons of water all at once drowns 99/100 people, being forced to drink a half gallon is assumed to drown 1/20th as many (about 5 people) and so on down the line; a straight-line estimate would allow you to deduce that even a cup of water a day is more deadly than no water at all. This is obviously the wrong way to estimate how dangerous water is; it's also the wrong way to estimate the danger of radiation (both ionizing and non-ionizing).

Here's a Japanese study called verifying radiation hormesis in laboratory animals.

The medical dictionary definition of hormesis is: "An effect where a toxic substance acts like a stimulant in small doses, but it is an inhibitor in large doses."

This page has some interesting examples, including the following:
Radiation hormesis in cancer mortality was found in 32,000 United States and 22,000 British military observers of atmospheric nuclear explosions (Robinette et al., 1985; Darby et al., 1988). The cancer mortality rate of Canadian military observers was only 88% of carefully selected military controls (Raman et al., 1987). The leukemia mortality rate of the Canadian observers was only 40% of that of the unexposed controls. In each study the cancer motality rate of exposed personnel was lower that that of the general population.

The cumulative data represents about 100,000 acutely exposed persons in four countries. This is convincing evidence that whole body exposure to low doses of ionizing radiation do not cause increased mortality. The supporting animal data showed that both acute and chronic exposure to low dose irradiation decreased cancer mortality (Luckey 1990, 1993). The combined animal and human results provide impressive evidence that cancer mortality is decreased by acute exposure to low doses of ionizing radiation.

There is quite a bit of evidence to suggest that small amounts of ionizing radiation help prevent cancer. The cancer rate might be a lot lower if there were more background radiation. If so, then even cellphones that produced ionizing radiation would still benefit rather than harm their users. You might want the one that gives the highest dose, to improve your health!

Here's a Japanese study called verifying radiation hormesis in laboratory animals.

The medical dictionary definition of hormesis is: "An effect where a toxic substance acts like a stimulant in small doses, but it is an inhibitor in large doses."

A relevant text (recommended on the web but I haven't read it) is:
Kondo, S.; Health effects of low-level radiation.
Osaka, Japan: Kinki University Press; Madison, WI: Medical Physics Publishing Co., 1993.

This page has some interesting examples, including the following:
Radiation hormesis in cancer mortality was found in 32,000 United States and 22,000 British military observers of atmospheric nuclear explosions (Robinette et al., 1985; Darby et al., 1988). The cancer mortality rate of Canadian military observers was only 88% of carefully selected military controls (Raman et al., 1987). The leukemia mortality rate of the Canadian observers was only 40% of that of the unexposed controls. In each study the cancer motality rate of exposed personnel was lower that that of the general population.

The cumulative data represents about 100,000 acutely exposed persons in four countries. This is convincing evidence that whole body exposure to low doses of ionizing radiation do not cause increased mortality. The supporting animal data showed that both acute and chronic exposure to low dose irradiation decreased cancer mortality (Luckey 1990, 1993). The combined animal and human results provide impressive evidence that cancer mortality is decreased by acute exposure to low doses of ionizing radiation.

That's not as bad as this, when Hemos posted the same story, twice. The double stories stayed up for quite a while, until finally someone took the second one down.

While it was an interesting article, the NY Times needed comments from 7 people to put together what has already been said about the issue of file sharing by many other people over the past few months. I even covered most of the more interesting points in a Napster article I wrote a few weeks ago. Of course, I'm not a US Senator or the RIAA's cast-iron bit-, er, president, yeah, um, president...

1. http://xgov.net/dvd/DeCSS.zip and http://xgov.net/dvd/decss.tar.gz
   
   
2. http://www.2600.com/news/1999/11 12-files/DeCSS.zip/ and http://www.2600.com/news/1 999/1112-files/css-auth.tar.gz
   
3. http://douglas.min.net/~drw/css-auth/
   
4. http://www.devzero.org/freecss.html
   
5. http://www.chello.nl/~f .vanwaveren/css-auth/css-auth.tar.gz
   
6. http://www.geociti es.com/ResearchTriangle/Campus/8877/index.html
   
7. http://www.angelfire.com/mt/popefelix/
8. http://www.vexed.net/CSS
   
9. http://members.brabant.chello.nl/~j.vr eeken/
   
10. http://www.dvd.eavy.de/css-auth.tar.gz and http://www.dvd.eavy.de/DeCSS.zip
    
11. http://www.eavy.net/stuff/dvd/css-aut h.tar.gz and http://www.eavy.net/stuff/dvd/DeCSS.zip
    
12. http://frozenlinux.com/local/decss/in dex.html
    
13. http://www.unitycode.org/
    
14. http://dirtass.beyatch.net/decss.zip
    
15. http://decss.tripod.com/index.html
    
16. http://www.free-dvd.org.lu/
    
17. http://www.angelfire.com/in2/mirror/
    
18. http://batman.jytol.fi/~vuori/dvd/
    
19. http://www.zpok.demon.co.uk/deCSS/CSS.ht ml
    
20. http://plato.nebulanet.net:88/css/
    
21. http://www.logorrhea.com/main.html
    
22. http://people.delphi.com/salfter/LiVi d.tar.gz
    
23. ftp://193.219.56.32/pub/dvd/LiVi d.CVS-11.06.tar.gz and ftp://193.219.56. 32/pub/dvd/LiVid.CVS-11.06.css-stuff-only.tar.gz
    
24. http://merlin.keble.ox.ac.uk/~a drian/css/index.html
    
25. http://www.dvd-copy.com/
    
26. http://www.zip.com.au/~cs/dvd/css /css-auth.tar.gz and http://www.zip.com.au/~cs/dvd/css/DeCSS .zip
    
27. http://www.sent.freeserve.co.uk/css -auth.tar.gz and http://www.sent.freeserve.co.uk/DeCSS.zip
    
28. http://www.lemuria.org/DeCSS/
    
29. http://members.theglobe.com/avoiderm an/dvd.htm
    
30. http://humpin.org/decss/
    
31. http://www.twistedlogic.com/htm l/tl_archive_map.htm
    
32. http:/ /munitions.polkaroo.net/software/algorithms/stream ciphers/decss.tar.gz
    
33. http://muni tions.dyn.org/software/algorithms/streamciphers/de css.tar.gz
    
34. http://uk1. munitions.net/software/algorithms/streamciphers/de css.tar.gz
    
35. http://muni tions.firenze.linux.it/algorithms/streamciphers/de css.tar.gz
    
36. http://www.irgendeinedomain.de/decs s/index.html
    
37. http://therapy.endorphin.org/DVD/
    
38. http://killer.discordia.ch /Politics/Copyprotection.phtml
    
39. http://linuxvideo.org/
    
40. http://www.geocities.com/SiliconV alley/Port/3224/
    
41. ftp://ftp.one.net/pub/user s/dmahurin/files/software/dvd/
    
42. ftp://ftp.charm.net/pub/usr/home/dutch/ or http://www.charm.net/~dutch/
    
43. http://dsl129.drizzle.com:2001/downlo ads/DVD/
    
44. http://perso.libertysurf. fr/ortal98/dvd_rip/decss_12b.zip
45. http://users.drak.net/bem ann/software/css/css-auth.tar.gz and http://users.drak.net/bemann/so ftware/css/DeCSS.zip
    
46. http://www.angelfire.com/movies/decss
    
47. http://www.angelfire.com/myband/decss/
48. http://josefine.ben.tuwien.ac.at/~davi d/dvd/
    
49. http://www.c0ke.com/DVD/
    
50. http://rockme.virtualave.net/
    
51. http://amor.rz.hu-berlin.de/~h0444t2v/
52. http://www.quintessenz.at/q/index.html
53. http://www.dvdlinks.co.uk/css/
    
54. http://www.fortunecit y.com/tinpan/tylerbridge/679/dvdcss.html
    
55. http://www.crosswinds.net/~valo/DeCSS/
56. http://members.home.com/christopherlee/ dvd/
    
57. http://members.xoom.com/freedecss/
    
58. http://63.225.181.97/decss/
    
59. ftp://alma.dhs.org/pub/DVD/
    
60. http://www.dynamsol.com/satanix/DeCSS.zip and http://www.dynamsol.com/satanix/css -auth.tar.gz
    
61. http://mun itions.cifs.org/software/algorithms/streamciphers/ decss.tar.gz
    
62. http://www.able-towers.com/~flow/
    
63. http://www.cgocable.net/~jdionne/css/
    
64. http://people.mn.mediaone.net/bojay/s lashdot/
    
65. http://www.capital.net/~mazzic
    
66. http://24.108.23.121/DeCSS/
    
67. http://ananke.hack.pl/
    
68. http://www.geocities.com/donotsueme/
    
69. http://members.tripod.com/donotsueme/
    
70. http://donotsueme.homepage.com
    
71. http://www.homestead.com/donotsueme/ index.html
    
72. http://donotsueme.freeservers.com/
    
73. http://www.angelfire.com/punk/donotsueme/
    
74. http://www.rz.uni-frankfurt.de/~marsie/
    
75. http://209.178.22.9/protest/
    
76. http://www.bard.org.il/~marc/dvd
    
77. http://www.geocities.com/RainFor est/4360/decss.zip
    
78. http://www.altern.com/tfagart/decss.zip
    
79. http://www.itouch.net/~jm/dvd.html
    
80. http://ils.unc.edu/inls183/resources .shtml#DVD
    
81. http://avdira.cc.duth.gr/~kkonstan/css/
    
82. http://www.multimania.com/sxpert/decss/
    
83. http://www.posexperts.com.pl/peopl e/wrobell/css/
    
84. http://www.koek.net/dvd/
    
85. http://www.cyberchrist.org/freecss.html
    
86. http://www.ozemail.com.au/~cybe rchrist/freecss.html
    
87. http://www.planet.net.au/~coram/
    
88. http://www.geek.co.il/css/
    
89. http://www.datacomm.ch/adrien/decss/ index.html
    
90. http://home.rmci.net/bert/fuckthelawyers/
    
91. http://unimatrix.dyndns.org/fucklawyers/
    
92. http://www.isn.net/~dsimeone/DeCSS.zip
93. http://logical-solutions.com.au/DeCSS.zip
    
94. http://www.sarahandcasey.com/decss/
    
95. http://www.fsp.com/
    
96. http://www.warren-wilson.edu/~echerry/dvd
    
97. http://www.mafkees.com/dvd
    
98. http://dB.org/dvd/
    
99. http://dcwi.com/~wench/decss
    
100. http://dvdcss.newmail.ru
     
101. http://www.subcor.com
     
102. http://www.frankw.net/decss
     
103. http://danger-island.com/~dav/any.lawyer.who/quote s.this.url/gives.permission/for .his.residence.to.be.searched/any.bootleg.audio/vi deo/tape.found/nullifies.legal.and.moral .standing/
     
104. http://www.fortunecity.com/vi ctorian/parkwood/95/DVD/
     
105. http://www.asleep.net/dvd
     
106. http://members.xoom.com/NiKeX
     
107. http://www.geocit ies.com/ResearchTriangle/Station/2819/index.html
     
108. http://www.execpc.com/~unicorn/dvdmirr or.htm
     
109. http://members.xoom.com/chapter3/Mamma No.htm
     
110. http://wiw.org/~drz/css/
     
111. http://merlinjim.freeservers.com/dvd/
     
112. http://www.visi.com/~adept/liberty
     
113. http://mikedotd.penguinpowered.com/deccs
     
114. http://www.ct2600.org/2600-DVD.html
     
115. http://magic.hurrah.com/~fireball/dvd/
116. http://www.jonhanson.com/dvd
     
117. ftp://ftp.foon.net/pub/decss
     
118. http://osiris.978.org/~brianr/css/
     
119. http://earnestdesigns.com/dvd
     
120. http://www.satl.com/~satlpop6/
     
121. http://xempt.darpa.org:81/decss/
     
122. ftp://cm-d0415.resnet.ucsc.edu/p ub/css-auth.tar.gz
     
123. http://www.mit.edu/afs/sipb/user /mycroft/css-auth/
     
124. http://www.eyrie.demon.co.uk/derek/dvd/c ss
     
125. http://ananke.hack.pl
     
126. http://budice.ancients.net/www.free -dvd.org.lu/
     
127. http://defiance.darktech.org/decss/
     
128. http://kesagatame.tripod.com
     
129. http://www.angelfire.com/pokemon/decss
130. http://www.gnosis.cx/download/DeCSS.zip
     
131. http://bone.powersurfr.com/DeCSS/
     
132. http://wakeupthe.net/dvd/
     
133. http://everest.yooniks.org/dvd
     
134. http://cubicmetercrystal.com/decss/
     
135. http://analyzethis.acmecity.com/triboro /90/
     
136. http://homepages.together.net/~ib nzahid/DeCSS.zip
     
137. http://www.save2600.8m.com
     
138. http://people.ne.mediaone.net/dantepsn/
     
139. http://members.xoom.com/mxpxguy/dvd/
     
140. http://decss.fall0ut.com
     
141. http://vedaa.tripod.com/decss.html
     
142. http://members.xoom.com/iox
     
143. http://www.hackunlimited.com/dvd/
     
144. http://hem.fyristorg.com/police/css.htm
     
145. http://elknews.netpedia.net/dvd/
     
146. http://www.idrive.com/decss/web
     
147. http://quintessenz.at/q
     
148. http://www.clug.com/~vodak/dvd/
     
149. http://www.nacs.net/~vodak/dvd/
     
150. http://ny2600.iwarp.com
     
151. http://www.wpi.edu/~nassar/dvd/
     
152. http://www.glue.umd.edu/~castongj
     
153. http://www.geocities.com/cold_dvd/
     
154. http://www.projectgamma.com/deccs/
     
155. http://members.xoom.com/mogreen/decss/
156. http://thrash.webjump.com/decss.zip
     
157. http://www.angelfire.com/de2/decss/dec ss.htm
     
158. http://www.krackdown.com/decss
     
159. http://www.ithink.org/dvd/
     
160. http://www.fortunecit y.com/skyscraper/motorola/1415/decss.htm
     
161. http://chaz.fsgs.com/misc/DvD/
     
162. http://www.linuxstart.com/~kv ance/projects/decss.html
     
163. http://www.darkkingz.com/DeCSS.zip
     
164. http://come.to/intelex
     
165. http://ebmedia.net/dvd/
     
166. http://www.geocities.com/decss_forever/
     
167. http://revolution.3-cities.com/~spack/dv d/
     
168. http://www.geocities.com/Sili conValley/Software/8762/
     
169. http://members.xoom.com/s_o_sam/help.html
     
170. http://smokering.org
     
171. http://www.sent.freeserve.co.uk/css -auth.tar.gz
     
172. http://dlsf.org
     
173. http://home.rmci.net/bert/dvd
     
174. http://thrash.webjump.com/decss.zip
     
175. http://linux.uci.agh.edu.pl/~outlaw/ decss.html
     
176. http://debian.mps.krakow.pl/mirror/css/
     
177. http://www.fission.org/~mangino
     
178. http://212.187.12.197/decss/
     
179. http://www.clarkson.edu/~andrixjr /decss/DeCSS.zip
     
180. http://www.geocities.com/Capitol Hill/1583/dvd.html
     
181. http://members.xoom.com/freedecss/
     
182. http://www.csd.net/~cgadd/dvd.htm
     
183. http://www.members.home.net/normanlorrai n/
     
184. http://home.swipnet.se/~w-18931/decss/
185. http://home.soneraplaza.nl/qn/prive/v alhalla/
     
186. http://www.robotslave.net
     
187. http://www.angelfire.com/punk/freedom/
188. http://www.corova.com/dvd/
     
189. http://2600.dk/mirrors/css/
     
190. http://dvdcrack.homepage.com
     
191. http://www.copkiller.org
     
192. http://www.worldcity.nl/~frank/dvd
     
193. http://members.xoom.com/iamkeenan/master/
     
194. http://www.adulation.net/css/
     
195. http://homepage.interacces s.com/~mycroft/decss/DeCSS.zip
     
196. http://underground.pl/dvd/
     
197. http://members.xoom.com/nyc2600
     
198. http://zerosoft.hypermart.net/warez/ DVDcrK.txt
     
199. http://www.deforest.org/CSS
     
200. http://nickd.org/decss
     
201. http://www.xenoclast.demon.co.uk/main.ht ml
     
202. http://www.ctol.net/~ross/css-auth.tar.gz
     
203. http://www.xenoclast.demon.co.uk/main.ht ml
     
204. http://www.ctol.net/~ross/css-auth.tar.gz
     
205. http://www.geocities.com/SiliconV alley/File/3635/
     
206. http://members.xoom.com/a1010_2000/
     
207. http://decss.globalservice.hu/
     

http://www.wpi.edu/~dpotter/decssruling .txt.

This is just the ruling gotten from http://www.nysd.usco urts.gov/courtweb/pdf/D02NYSC/00-08118.PDF in text form. (As much spacing as possible is maintained.)

I was confused about your gripe until you made this statement. See, my school, WPI, has a senior-year project as well, called the Major Qualifying Project, or MQP, that every student must complete. (I start mine in a few weeks!) Your clinic sounds very similar to the MQP - a company sponsors it but you get school credit rather than money - but no one complains about it. But now I see the difference - we can do a research project instead, it's totally up in the air.

I thought about applying to Harvey Mudd...

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Right now, they aren't even space-effective. The current working fuel-cell car are basically a drivers area, with the rest of the area normally reserved for passengers taken up by fuel-cells. They won't really be feasible for another 20-30 years optimistically, quite probably longer. I know that some work related to fuel cells is being done at WPI, but all they have about it is this short piece. I went looking for more details, but the "Center for Fuel Cell Studies" link (located here) is greyed out. (As is the fuel cell laboratory link...)

Right now, they aren't even space-effective. The current working fuel-cell car are basically a drivers area, with the rest of the area normally reserved for passengers taken up by fuel-cells. They won't really be feasible for another 20-30 years optimistically, quite probably longer. I know that some work related to fuel cells is being done at WPI, but all they have about it is this short piece. I went looking for more details, but the "Center for Fuel Cell Studies" link (located here) is greyed out. (As is the fuel cell laboratory link...)

Right now, they aren't even space-effective. The current working fuel-cell car are basically a drivers area, with the rest of the area normally reserved for passengers taken up by fuel-cells. They won't really be feasible for another 20-30 years optimistically, quite probably longer. I know that some work related to fuel cells is being done at WPI, but all they have about it is this short piece. I went looking for more details, but the "Center for Fuel Cell Studies" link (located here) is greyed out. (As is the fuel cell laboratory link...)

I've just recently updated my web page (http://www.wpi.edu/~dpotter/, /. it and die as I'll lose my account) to support both IE, Netscape 4, and Mozilla through use of Javascript. Disable Javascript, though, and it won't work. I have to use Javascript to detect the browser version and then route around incompatibilities in both browsers. (Look at the .css file and you'll notice that I've copied a basic style rule to many elements because Netscape 4 doesn't follow the inheritance rule properly - very annoying.)

At one point, I was ready to throw in the towel with the XML web page and just say "IE only" but I can't because the company I work for uses Netscape 4.73 as their standard browser! (And, BTW, so does the armed forces :).) It's now being designed by someone else though (probably a good thing), and I think he's just using very basic HTML.

At one point, I was ready to write my own browser to properly support CSS. In fact, I am writing my own parser/renderer to support CSS2 - it's not available anywhere yet, but it's in Java (for now, maybe in C++ later), and when it's ready (it's really, REALLY, in early stages right now), I'll release it under the GPL (sorry BSD fans :)). It's very, VERY annoying to try and create a web page that utilizes the features specified in standards at least two years old, just to find that nobody actually supports them.

On that note, Mozilla's HTML/CSS support looks very, very nice, and I can't wait for Mozilla to be ready for prime-time. Keep up the good work, Mozilla! Submit bugs to help them!

I thought eek, so much so that I'm pestering my school (which is normally sealed tight as drum in respects of security) to get on the ball. Maybe they have a solution, but i ain't obvious to me. In regards to the whole SSH/telnet argument.
Well, our school supports both, and even though they don't go out of their way to get people to use SSH most do [probably because its WPI] and those who don't run risk/could care less. In terms of things that _don't_ matter, ICMP is completely firewalled outside of the intranet and overall im impressed.

Now its time for my point:
I go to a tech school and many of us know tux by his first name, BUT when i visit _other_ schools [liberal arts type stuff that i dont know dick about] its surprising how much people just don't care about their security, and education will not wash there, because the users just dont care as long as they get their pr0n and mp3s...
sigh what to do

I've been looking for a project to do for my college's MQP and this seems like an interesting thing to do for it. Just what would be required for this? Right now all I'm thinking is a bunch of perl scripts, but I'm sure it would evolve to something more complex than that. What is all the stuff that needs to be stored and searched through? More importantly how big is the demand for a Web Based Helpdesk?

-Mongoose
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I've been looking for a project to do for my college's MQP and this seems like an interesting thing to do for it. Just what would be required for this? Right now all I'm thinking is a bunch of perl scripts, but I'm sure it would evolve to something more complex than that. What is all the stuff that needs to be stored and searched through? More importantly how big is the demand for a Web Based Helpdesk?

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It may sound archaic, but I just go to Bookmarks:Edit Bookmarks and make catagories by hand. After that, unless I make a subfolder, they aren't catagorized, but it works... I have some 300+ bookmarks and could probably find any one with a limited search time.

It's really the only way for me to do it... I also extract all the links for my Random Link Generator (yeah, I know, inspired use of perl... took about 5 minutes work).

But I do add a good 5-10 links per day from various weblogs. Even a little catagorization can cut down on search time when I look through my Bookmarks menu, even if it's not that great.

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I suppose that the free distribution part of it is the best thing. If you had to go to their site any time you wanted to watch the movie, it would get a tad annoying. But the fact that they could be making money of this (supposedly) but are giving it away instead... gold.

<shameless plug>
In a related topic, my friends and I are releasing videos we make in the same manner. They're funny, trust me... and there will be more as time goes on, too. From a link on my home page you can download (and freely distribute) what movies we have.
</shameless plug>

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I think Tux will be fine on his own. Take a look at This.

And as for the concept of the SATs et al testing "what you need to know to succeed in college," they do no such thing. Again from personal experience. I was in Johns Hopkins University's Center for Talented Youth program. A prerequisite for admission to said program was scoring at least 430 on the old Verbal and 500 on the old Math SAT at the time I participated. Some of us did fabulously well in life. Some of us who were big fish in small ponds in high school got to college and realized that we might be intelligent, we might be brilliant standardized-test takers, but we didn't know how to study! I was screwed the first time I had to write a research paper in college. Didn't know what in the H-E-double hockey sticks I was doing. I also tested out of (or nearly so) classes that I really should have taken, and the holes in my mathematical, scientific, and music theory background came back to haunt me again and again in college.

I was also in the Johns Hopkins CTY program. I had the highest math score in my state (NH: 720) but couldn't really afford the actual summer camp, so I didn't go. I did well on my actual SAT scores a few years later, and got accepted to WPI. Your big-fish comment certainly holds water (forgive the pun): I'm typically acing my CS and technical classes, but often the tests are hard because I can't study too well. Also, now I have a huge research paper to do and I feel horribly lost.

Our education system is a tad screwy, I'd say.

http://www.multimania.com/sxpert/decss/

http://www.posexperts.com.pl/peopl e/wrobell/css/

http://www.koek.net/dvd

http://logical-solutions.com.au/DeCSS.zip

http://www.sarahandcasey.com/decss/

http://www.fsp.com

http://www.warren-wilson.edu/~echerry/dvd

http://people.mn.mediaone.net/bojay/s lashdot/

http://www.mafkees.com/dvd

http://members.tripod.com/donotsueme/

http://donotsueme.homepage.com

http://donotsueme.freeservers.com/

http://www.rz.uni-frankfurt.de/~marsie/

http://dB.org/dvd/

http://dcwi.com/~wench/decss

http://www.capital.net/~mazzic

http://dvdcss.newmail.ru

http://www.subcor.com

http://www.frankw.net/decss

http://danger-island.com/~dav/any.lawyer.who [...]

http://www.fortunecity.com/vi ctorian/parkwood/95/DVD/

http://www.asleep.net/dvd

http://members.xoom.com/NiKeX

http://www.geocit ies.com/ResearchTriangle/Station/2819/index.html

http://www.execpc.com/~unicorn/dvdmirr or.htm

http://members.xoom.com/chapter3/Mamma No.htm

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http://wiw.org/~drz/css/

http://merlinjim.freeservers.com/dvd/

http://www.visi.com/~adept/liberty

http://mikedotd.penguinpowered.com/deccs

http://www.ct2600.org/2600-DVD.html

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http://hem.fyristorg.com/police/css.htm

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http://www.idrive.com/decss/web

http://www.chello.nl/~f.vanwaveren

http://quintessenz.at/q

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http://www.nacs.net/~vodak/dvd/

http://ny2600.iwarp.com

http://www.wpi.edu/~nassar/dvd/

http://www.glue.umd.edu/~castongj

http://www.geocities.com/cold_dvd/

http://www.projectgamma.com/deccs/

http://members.xoom.com/mogreen/decss/

http://thrash.webjump.com/decss.zip

http://www.angelfire.com/de2/decss/dec ss.htm

http://www.krackdown.com/decss

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http://www.fortunecit y.com/skyscraper/motorola/1415/decss.htm

http://chaz.fsgs.com/misc/DvD/

http://www.linuxstart.com/~kv ance/projects/decss.html

http://www.darkkingz.com/DeCSS.zip

http://come.to/intelex

http://ebmedia.net/dvd/

http://www.geocities.com/decss_forever/

http://revolution.3-cities.com/~spack/dv d/

http://www.geocities.com/Sili conValley/Software/8762/

http://members.xoom.com/s_o_sam/help.html

http://www.vexed.net/CSS/

http://smokering.org

http://www.sent.freeserve.co.uk/css -auth.tar.gz

http://home.rmci.net/bert/fuckthelawyers

http://dlsf.org

http://home.rmci.net/bert/dvd

http://thrash.webjump.com/decss.zip

http://linux.uci.agh.edu.pl/~outlaw/ decss.html

http://debian.mps.krakow.pl/mirror/css/

http://www.mindspring.com/~stonethrower

http://www.geocitie s.com/SiliconValley/Hardware/6188/index.html

http://matt.frogspace.net/css/

ftp://www.spamshack.net/pub/dcss/

http://werewolf12.cjb.net

http://isupport2600.8m.com

http://imezok.tripod.com/Untitled.txt

http://warpedreality.members.easyspace. com/

http://w1.1634.telia.com/~u163400190 /DeCSS.zip

http://ts1.online.fr/dvd/

http://homepages.go.com/homepage s/4/0/3/403_error/

http://members.xoom.com/maud123/Home/C SS.htm

http://xtreme2k.8k.com/DeCSS

http://hackingdvd.homestead.com

http://www.geocities.com/soho /studios/6752/index.html

http://www.geocities.com/corporatemin dcontrol

http://darklord.darkthrone.com/user s/smith/dvd/

http://thrash.webjump.com/decss.zip

http://www.twistedlogic.com/archive/dvd

http://www.image.dk/~mbp

http://www.divisionbyzero.com/decss/

http://decss.cx

http://kevins.ne.mediaone.net/~kevins/dv d/

http://friko6.onet.pl/war/mkochano/

http://planeta.clix.pt/DJ_AmAzInG/DVD/

http://noc.res.cmu.edu

http://www.kiss.uni-lj.si/~k4ef1890/css/

http://hackingdvd.homestead.com

http://www.uwm.edu/~zachkarp/index.html

http://st-bart.net

http://decss_files.tripod.com

http://wakeupthe.net/dvd/

http://www.angelfire.com/punk/freedom/

http://www.corova.com/dvd/

http://2600.dk/mirrors/css/

http://dvdcrack.homepage.com

http://www.copkiller.org

http://www.worldcity.nl/~frank/dvd

http://members.xoom.com/iamkeenan/master/

http://www.adulation.net/css/

http://homepage.interacces s.com/~mycroft/decss/DeCSS.zip

http://underground.pl/dvd/

http://members.xoom.com/nyc2600

http://zerosoft.hypermart.net/warez/ DVDcrK.txt

http://www.deforest.org/CSS

http://members.xoom.com/freedvdinfo/

http://www.geocities.com/Sili conValley/Software/3971/

http://24.114.168.235/public/css.htm

http://fairuse.freeservers.com/

http://jupiter.spaceports.com/~decss

http://www.c0ke.com/DVD

http://2600.bigfuc.com

http://www.crosswinds.net/oakland/~ahrendt/Lawyers _are_scu m-sucking_pigs [...]

http://sdf.lonestar.org/~egg/

http://cssalgorithm.8m.com

http://www.duffbrew.com/decss/

http://heavymusic.8m.com

http://www.oblivion.net/~amar/css

http://www.charm.net/~dutch

http://members.tripod.com/ny2600/

http://www.angelfire.com/ny3/ny2600/

go.to/nairos

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http://www.csd.net/~cgadd/dvd.htm

http://theannux.homestead.com/decss.html

http://members.aol.com/elktonstalkers/CS S/

http://pages.hotbot.com/edu/silex/mir ror.html

http://budsmoker.com/sites/decss/

http://www.geocities.com/watice2/

http://home.att.net /~phreakonaleash/ccs_mirror--screw_the_feds/

http://DECSS-Baby.tripod.com/

http://decss.cyvoid.net

http://www.azillionmonkeys.c om/qed/recess_for_css.html

http://www.reapers.org

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http://www.halma.nl/~bb

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http://www.angelfire.com/pe/sh3/deccs/

http://www.angelfire.com/el ectronic/icebandits/dvd.html

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Temporary restraining order DENIED!

Thanks to the efforts of the Electronic Frontier Foundation and the organization and support provided by a few of our fellow defendants we are still here! Another hearing is scheduled for January 14th.

We would like to point out to all of the mirror sites with things like "fuck the lawyers" on them that it is because of a generous group of lawyers that we are still here. These lawyers are working for free (or much less than they could get by going over to the Dark Side) and don't deserve this kind of abuse.

Here is the EFF's stance on this case.

Save a copy of this web page now!

We have just been informed that the DVD Copy Control Association is seeking a restraining order against us (named as "Doe 28") for distributing DeCSS and linking to pages that distribute it and linking to pages that link to pages that distribute it.

Section 48 of this request states that we supposedly "have received notice through the MPA and refused to remove the information at issue". This is absolutely false! We have never received any such request (from the MPA or anybody else for that matter) and we obviously were not given the opportunity to refuse! Either Jared Bobrow needs to go back to law school or the DVD CCA needs to get a new firm. This is the kind of sloppy work that could get an important document thrown out.

Here is a 2600 story on this.

Explanation on legality of this information

The software (source as well as binaries) offered on this site can be freely redistributed because it was published under the GNU General Public License. The purpose of this software is not illegal copying of DVD disks. It is meant to provide information necessary to be able to program a DVD player for Linux. To do this, the CSS system needs to be incorporated in the player. Recently the (very weak) DVD content scrambling system was deciphered, freeing the way for a Linux DVD player. The CSS system is not a copy protection system, since it does not prevent copying of the disk. Writing information about the way an encryption scheme functions is completely legal. The source code and binaries on this site are completely legal too, since they contain no code from the DVD consortium or its members. The sources and programs on this site were written by third parties using clean-room reverse engineering methods which are (ready?) completly legal.

Attention www.rhythm.cx was hosting a list of mirrors for these files. That list of mirrors has been replaced with a page reading "This site has been taken down for legal reasons." Here's what the maintainer put on the site the day it was shut down:

NOTE (Thu, Nov 11, 12:17pm EST): I've recently been informed that a law firm which is likely to be one that would try get these mirrors taken down has been visiting this mirror site as well as others. With that said, there is a possibility that I may have to remove this site in the near future because like everyone else, I can't afford to go to court to fight it. Luckly, it seems fairly unlikely that any law firm will ever be able to get rid of all these mirrors at this point (there are currently 41 in 8 different countries and this list is growing every day). However, I have only seen very few mirror _lists_ like this one anyplace. If anyone has the resources, it might be wise to mirror this list of mirrors as well so that the right people will still know that these mirrors exist.

Here is a 2600 story with more details on how rhythm.cx was shut down.

Current Mirrors Last updated: Wed, Jan 19, 12:13am EST
Numbers are only for the maintainer's convenience

We apologize for the length of time between updates. This list has gotten quite large and thus more difficult to maintain.

Much thanks to this site for listing mirrors of the mirror lists.

1. http://www.humpin.org/decss/DeCSS.zip and http://www.humpin.org/decss/decss.tar.gz
   
   
2. http://www.2600.com/news/1999/11 12-files/DeCSS.zip/ and http://www.2600.com/news/1 999/1112-files/css-auth.tar.gz
   
3. http://douglas.min.net/~drw/css-auth/
   
4. http://www.devzero.org/freecss.html
   
5. http://www.chello.nl/~f .vanwaveren/css-auth/css-auth.tar.gz
   
6. http://www.geociti es.com/ResearchTriangle/Campus/8877/index.html
   
7. http://www.angelfire.com/mt/popefelix/
8. http://www.vexed.net/CSS
   
9. http://members.brabant.chello.nl/~j.vr eeken/
   
10. http://www.dvd.eavy.de/css-auth.tar.gz and http://www.dvd.eavy.de/DeCSS.zip
    
11. http://www.eavy.net/stuff/dvd/css-aut h.tar.gz and http://www.eavy.net/stuff/dvd/DeCSS.zip
    
12. http://frozenlinux.com/local/decss/in dex.html
    
13. http://dirtass.beyatch.net/decss.zip
    
14. http://decss.tripod.com/index.html
    
15. http://www.free-dvd.org.lu/
    
16. http://www.angelfire.com/in2/mirror/
    
17. http://batman.jytol.fi/~vuori/dvd/
    
18. http://www.zpok.demon.co.uk/deCSS/CSS.ht ml
    
19. http://plato.nebulanet.net:88/css/
    
20. http://www.logorrhea.com/main.html
    
21. http://people.delphi.com/salfter/LiVi d.tar.gz
    
22. ftp://193.219.56.32/pub/dvd/LiVi d.CVS-11.06.tar.gz and ftp://193.219.56. 32/pub/dvd/LiVid.CVS-11.06.css-stuff-only.tar.gz
    
23. http://merlin.keble.ox.ac.uk/~a drian/css/index.html
    
24. http://www.dvd-copy.com/
    
25. http://www.sent.freeserve.co.uk/css -auth.tar.gz and http://www.sent.freeserve.co.uk/DeCSS.zip
    
26. http://www.lemuria.org/DeCSS/
    
27. http://members.theglobe.com/avoiderm an/dvd.htm
    
28. http://remco.xgov.net/dvd/
    
29. http://www.twistedlogic.com/htm l/tl_archive_map.htm
    
30. http:/ /munitions.polkaroo.net/software/algorithms/stream ciphers/decss.tar.gz
    
31. http://muni tions.dyn.org/software/algorithms/streamciphers/de css.tar.gz
    
32. http://uk1. munitions.net/software/algorithms/streamciphers/de css.tar.gz
    
33. http://muni tions.firenze.linux.it/algorithms/streamciphers/de css.tar.gz
    
34. http://www.irgendeinedomain.de/decs s/index.html
    
35. http://therapy.endorphin.org/DVD/
    
36. http://killer.discordia.ch /Politics/Copyprotection.phtml
    
37. http://linuxvideo.org/
    
38. http://www.geocities.com/SiliconV alley/Port/3224/
    
39. ftp://ftp.one.net/pub/user s/dmahurin/files/software/dvd/
    
40. ftp://ftp.charm.net/pub/usr/home/dutch/ or http://www.charm.net/~dutch/
    
41. http://dsl129.drizzle.com:2001/downlo ads/DVD/
    
42. http://perso.libertysurf. fr/ortal98/dvd_rip/decss_12b.zip
43. http://users.drak.net/bem ann/software/css/css-auth.tar.gz and http://users.drak.net/bemann/so ftware/css/DeCSS.zip
    
44. http://www.angelfire.com/movies/decss
    
45. http://www.angelfire.com/myband/decss/
46. http://josefine.ben.tuwien.ac.at/~davi d/dvd/
    
47. http://www.c0ke.com/DVD/
    
48. http://rockme.virtualave.net/
    
49. http://amor.rz.hu-berlin.de/~h0444t2v/
50. http://www.quintessenz.at/q/index.html
51. http://www.dvdlinks.co.uk/css/
    
52. http://www.fortunecit y.com/tinpan/tylerbridge/679/dvdcss.html
    
53. http://www.crosswinds.net/~valo/DeCSS/
54. http://members.home.com/christopherlee/ dvd/
    
55. http://members.xoom.com/freedecss/
    
56. http://www.dynamsol.com/satanix/DeCSS.zip and http://www.dynamsol.com/satanix/css -auth.tar.gz
    
57. http://mun itions.cifs.org/software/algorithms/streamciphers/ decss.tar.gz
    
58. http://www.able-towers.com/~flow/
    
59. http://www.cgocable.net/~jdionne/css/
    
60. http://people.mn.mediaone.net/bojay/s lashdot/
    
61. http://www.capital.net/~mazzic
    
62. http://24.108.23.121/DeCSS/
    
63. http://members.tripod.com/donotsueme/
    
64. http://donotsueme.homepage.com
    
65. http://www.homestead.com/donotsueme/ index.html
    
66. http://donotsueme.freeservers.com/
    
67. http://www.angelfire.com/punk/donotsueme/
    
68. http://www.rz.uni-frankfurt.de/~marsie/
    
69. http://209.178.22.9/protest/
    
70. http://www.bard.org.il/~marc/dvd
    
71. http://www.geocities.com/RainFor est/4360/decss.zip
    
72. http://www.altern.com/tfagart/decss.zip
    
73. http://www.itouch.net/~jm/dvd.html
    
74. http://ils.unc.edu/inls183/resources .shtml#DVD
    
75. http://avdira.cc.duth.gr/~kkonstan/css/
    
76. http://www.multimania.com/sxpert/decss/
    
77. http://www.posexperts.com.pl/peopl e/wrobell/css/
    
78. http://www.koek.net/dvd/
    
79. http://www.cyberchrist.org/freecss.html
    
80. http://www.ozemail.com.au/~cybe rchrist/freecss.html
    
81. http://www.planet.net.au/~coram/
    
82. http://www.geek.co.il/css/
    
83. http://www.datacomm.ch/adrien/decss/ index.html
    
84. http://home.rmci.net/bert/fuckthelawyers/
    
85. http://unimatrix.dyndns.org/fucklawyers/
    
86. http://www.isn.net/~dsimeone/DeCSS.zip
87. http://logical-solutions.com.au/DeCSS.zip
    
88. http://www.fsp.com/
    
89. http://www.warren-wilson.edu/~echerry/dvd
    
90. http://www.mafkees.com/dvd
    
91. http://dB.org/dvd/
    
92. http://dcwi.com/~wench/decss
    
93. http://dvdcss.newmail.ru
    
94. http://www.subcor.com
    
95. http://www.frankw.net/decss
    
96. http://danger-island.com/~dav/any.lawyer.who/quote s.this.url/gives.permission/for .his.residence.to.be.searched/any.bootleg.audio/vi deo/tape.found/nullifies.legal.and.moral .standing/
    
97. http://www.fortunecity.com/vi ctorian/parkwood/95/DVD/
    
98. http://www.asleep.net/dvd
    
99. http://members.xoom.com/NiKeX
    
100. http://www.geocit ies.com/ResearchTriangle/Station/2819/index.html
     
101. http://www.execpc.com/~unicorn/dvdmirr or.htm
     
102. http://members.xoom.com/chapter3/Mamma No.htm
     
103. http://wiw.org/~drz/css/
     
104. http://merlinjim.freeservers.com/dvd/
     
105. http://www.visi.com/~adept/liberty
     
106. http://www.ct2600.org/2600-DVD.html
     
107. http://magic.hurrah.com/~fireball/dvd/
108. ftp://ftp.foon.net/pub/decss
     
109. http://osiris.978.org/~brianr/css/
     
110. http://earnestdesigns.com/dvd
     
111. http://www.satl.com/~satlpop6/
     
112. ftp://cm-d0415.resnet.ucsc.edu/p ub/css-auth.tar.gz
     
113. http://www.mit.edu/afs/sipb/user /mycroft/css-auth/
     
114. http://www.eyrie.demon.co.uk/derek/dvd/c ss
     
115. http://ananke.hack.pl
     
116. http://budice.ancients.net/www.free -dvd.org.lu/
     
117. http://kesagatame.tripod.com
     
118. http://www.angelfire.com/pokemon/decss
119. http://www.gnosis.cx/download/DeCSS.zip
     
120. http://bone.powersurfr.com/DeCSS/
     
121. http://wakeupthe.net/dvd/
     
122. http://cubicmetercrystal.com/decss/
     
123. http://analyzethis.acmecity.com/triboro /90/
     
124. http://homepages.together.net/~ib nzahid/DeCSS.zip
     
125. http://www.save2600.8m.com
     
126. http://people.ne.mediaone.net/dantepsn/
     
127. http://members.xoom.com/mxpxguy/dvd/
     
128. http://decss.fall0ut.com
     
129. http://vedaa.tripod.com/decss.html
     
130. http://members.xoom.com/iox
     
131. http://www.hackunlimited.com/dvd/
     
132. http://hem.fyristorg.com/police/css.htm
     
133. http://elknews.netpedia.net/dvd/
     
134. http://www.idrive.com/decss/web
     
135. http://www.clug.com/~vodak/dvd/
     
136. http://www.nacs.net/~vodak/dvd/
     
137. http://ny2600.iwarp.com
     
138. http://www.wpi.edu/~nassar/dvd/
     
139. http://www.glue.umd.edu/~castongj
     
140. http://www.geocities.com/cold_dvd/
     
141. http://www.projectgamma.com/deccs/
     
142. http://members.xoom.com/mogreen/decss/
143. http://thrash.webjump.com/decss.zip
     
144. http://www.angelfire.com/de2/decss/dec ss.htm
     
145. http://www.ithink.org/dvd/
     
146. http://www.fortunecit y.com/skyscraper/motorola/1415/decss.htm
     
147. http://www.linuxstart.com/~kv ance/projects/decss.html
     
148. http://www.darkkingz.com/DeCSS.zip
     
149. http://ebmedia.net/dvd/
     
150. http://www.geocities.com/decss_forever/
     
151. http://revolution.3-cities.com/~spack/dv d/
     
152. http://www.geocities.com/Sili conValley/Software/8762/
     
153. http://smokering.org
     
154. http://www.sent.freeserve.co.uk/css -auth.tar.gz
     
155. http://dlsf.org
     
156. http://home.rmci.net/bert/dvd
     
157. http://thrash.webjump.com/decss.zip
     
158. http://linux.uci.agh.edu.pl/~outlaw/ decss.html
     
159. http://debian.mps.krakow.pl/mirror/css/
     
160. http://www.fission.org/~mangino
     
161. http://212.187.12.197/decss/
     
162. http://www.clarkson.edu/~andrixjr /decss/DeCSS.zip
     
163. http://www.geocities.com/Capitol Hill/1583/dvd.html
     
164. http://www.csd.net/~cgadd/dvd.htm
     
165. http://www.members.home.net/normanlorrai n/
     
166. http://home.swipnet.se/~w-18931/decss/
167. http://home.soneraplaza.nl/qn/prive/v alhalla/
     
168. http://www.robotslave.net
     
169. http://www.angelfire.com/punk/freedom/
170. http://www.corova.com/dvd/
     
171. http://2600.dk/mirrors/css/
     
172. http://dvdcrack.homepage.com
     
173. http://www.copkiller.org
     
174. http://www.worldcity.nl/~frank/dvd
     
175. http://members.xoom.com/iamkeenan/master/
     
176. http://www.adulation.net/css/
     
177. http://homepage.interacces s.com/~mycroft/decss/DeCSS.zip
     
178. http://underground.pl/dvd/
     
179. http://members.xoom.com/nyc2600
     
180. http://zerosoft.hypermart.net/warez/ DVDcrK.txt
     
181. http://www.deforest.org/CSS
     
182. http://www.xenoclast.demon.co.uk/main.ht ml
     
183. http://www.ctol.net/~ross/css-auth.tar.gz
     
184. http://www.xenoclast.demon.co.uk/main.ht ml
     
185. http://www.ctol.net/~ross/css-auth.tar.gz
     
186. http://www.geocities.com/SiliconV alley/File/3635/
     
187. http://members.xoom.com/a1010_2000/
     
188. http://decss.globalservice.hu/
     
189. http://members.xoom.com//_XMC M/madasian2000/index.htm
     
190. ftp://ftp.firehead.org/pub/
     
191. http://www.koek.net/dvd
     
192. http://www.mindspring.com/~stonethrower
     
193. http://www.geocitie s.com/SiliconValley/Hardware/6188/index.html
     
194. http://matt.frogspace.net/css/
     
195. ftp://www.spamshack.net/pub/dcss/
     
196. http://imezok.tripod.com/Untitled.txt
     
197. http://warpedreality.members.easyspace. com/
     
198. http://ts1.online.fr/dvd/
     
199. http://homepages.go.com/homepage s/4/0/3/403_error/
     
200. http://members.xoom.com/maud123/Home/C SS.htm
     
201. http://xtreme2k.8k.com/DeCSS/
     
202. http://hackingdvd.homestead.com/
     
203. http://www.geocities.com/corporatemi ndcontrol/
     
204. http://www.geocities.com/SoHo /Studios/6752/index.html
     
205. http://darklord.darkthrone.com/user s/smith/dvd/
     
206. http://www.image.dk/~mbp
     
207. http://www.divisionbyzero.com/decss/
     
208. http://decss.cx/
     

In this paper you can read about implementation in FPGA.