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Yeong Yang A201-X03?
For anyone wondering what the heck this is, you can look here.
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But how quiet is it?
Sounds interesting, but how quietly does it run? The article never mentions noise/quiet. The case comes with 2 6cm fans; are they needed? The PSU is a 200W microATX that comes with the case; is it quiet? The AthlonXP 1.47GHz runs pretty hot; what kind of CPU cooler does it need, and how quiet is that? A noisy media PC is not much fun...
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Re:welding atx cases together
No need to weld anything. Check the Yeong Yang cube case (02 serie), or the Chenbro server line. Plenty of room in any of those (up to 12 5 1/4 bays in the SR101).
But I think the original poster asked for a case with bays not only facing in front, but also either up or on the side (so his cables would go in different directions and be less cluttered).
For that, one of the small P4 cases recently featured on Slashdot might be useful, as a secondary case, or any minitower for that matter. -
YY-A102
Yeong Yang makes some awesome Tiny Cases that are Function and Expandable. Here is the one I use, they have others though too. YY-A102 MicroATX case
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Re:Um...it looks like....the cube.I'm really disappointed with the new design. It looks... alien. Don't get me wrong, it's cool, but I've always admired the cute, beetle-like shape of the old iMac. The new design looks like a crab's eyestalk or something. Ick. I'm sorry if Apple never intended to become the "cute PC" company, but the iMac is the cute computer... no PC chassis is so adorable. I'm being completely serious, of course -- you either love the iMac look or you hate it, but we who love it do so with a passion. What other computer has such personality?
I don't own an iMac, but I've really come to appreciate its cuteness over the years. Don't laugh -- sure, a computer's chassis may not have much to do with its speed or utility, but in the modern office, computers are more than machines, they're pieces of furniture. I like the old iMac because, as a piece of furniture, it gives any room a modern, happy-go-lucky feel that makes me smile. Anyway, I was going to by a new iMac this summer, and I was very excited to hear the LCD iMac rumors. But now, I'll probably buy from the stocks of current iMacs, which I except to be deeply discounted.
Yeah, yeah, I know -- the new iMacs don't just feature a new chassis, they have G4s as well. But they start at $1200, and if I'm going to spend that kind of cash, why not spend an extra few hundred dollars and get a PowerMac? This works in reverse, too... not only will Apple scare off first-time computer buyers and educational customers with the higher price tag, but they risk cutting into their low-end PowerMac market too.
Have you seen the concept art recently posted on MacOSRumors? Now that is cool, and is much closer to what I expected Apple to release. It's simple, cute, and takes stylistic hints from both the older iMac and the new PowerBook. The design seen in Time Canada, though, bears little resemblance to other Apple hardware, except of course the silver color. (The silver is cool, but I wish they had kept the fun colors. Why can't they have two color options: silver for a professional look, and colors for fun?) The new design looks like a bicycle helmet with a dentist's mirror protruding from the crown.
I feel that, for once, Apple will have aesthetics going against them. The G4 Cube, old iMac, PowerMac G4, PowerBook G4, and new iBook look so amazing that even the most staunch PC bigot has to admit that they look nice. But the new iMac? Eh... I live in DC, just a few minutes away from the Tyson's Corner Apple Store, and I can easily imagine the uninterested mallgoer's reaction. "Wow, look at that thing... it's interesting, like a piece of modern art, and I might go inside for a closer look. But do I want to bring the new iMac inside my home? No, of course not." In Apple's effort to stand out, they have finally overstepped their stylistic bounds and will now pay the price.
One thing is certain: Time, in Canada or elsewhere, will never again be given such "exclusives" by Apple. I simply cannot believe how amazingly stupid that was, releasing the pics early. From a strict financial standpoint it may have seemed like a good idea... I mean, yesterday I didn't even know that Time Candada had a website, and today they have ten of my page hits for their advertisement impression revenue. But Apple will never again give Time such courtesy, and might possibly even take legal action. Of course, ATI fucked up, and their chips can still be found in new Macs today, but journalists are easier to blacklist than industry partners.
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Try this case from Yeong Yang
I like THIS case. It'll fit a normal micro ATX MB and you're not confined to special low profile cards, or limited expansion slots. And it looks a helluva lot better than that shit above.
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Making a small PCActually I'm making a small living room PC right now. So far I have
- an Intel D810EMO mainboard.
- a Maxtor 531dx hard drive. (slim and durable)
- I am considering at this Elan Vital MF-1 case.
For those that are interested here are a few other links to small case manufacturers.
Case Manufacturer listing
Morex/ProCase
In Win
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My quiet case project : it's an answer ... sort of
Well, it seem these days, most of the power user just care to get something like 200fps in Quake III. Why ? Beat's me ! I'm not on a quest to get the ultimate frame rate, I just want my box to be quiet as possibly can be.
To help you understand my take on the subject, here is the background
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My PC has the following components :- A OEM case
- A 235W OEM power supply
- ASUS P3B-F
- Intel Pentium II rated 400Mhz @ 400Mhz
- A cheap OEM SECC2 Heat-Sink made of aluminum
- A 128MB CAS2 no-name DIMM
- Two 32MB CAS3 Samsung DIMM slowing down my memory timing, but preventing the appearance of the all mighty evil SwaP
- A ATI All-In-Wonder Rage128 16MB
- A Creative SoundBlaster Live! Value
- A Realtek 8139 Ethernet NIC
- My beloved USR 56Kbps ISA Real Modem. Sorry but to me a component that uses CPU power to do it's processing instead of taking the load off is not worthy of being in my computer. Not to mention the M$ Win part...
- A Creative 48x CD-ROM drive. It's the loudest damned thing in my computer when it's spinning
- A Quantum Fireball AS PLUS 40GB (7200RPM) in a removable tray
- A Quantum Fireball CX1 10GB (5400RPM) mounted inside the case
- Of course the stupid old 1.44 MB floppy drive only used for booting Tomsbrt in case of emergency
Soon to be
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- A Adaptec 2940UW
- A Diamond Monster 3D II for Glide games
It turn out that the Quantum Fireball AS makes less noise than the Quantum Fireball CX1. I still have to figure it out
...I use my PC for
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- Running Linux and learning as much as time allows me (Jez I had so much time when I was a student... Think of all the time I wasted in High-School running the evil W monster)
- Doing some gaming i.e. : Diablo II, Unreal, UT, Undying (Although that thing is going to cost me a new box)
- Spending numerous nights filling my brain @ Slashdot, Tomshardware, Anandtech, Arstechnica, StorageReview, Developper.Intel.com, and most importantly, hounding the web for all the case manufacturers and their take at a quiet box.
As I'm writing this post, that is probably going to be the base documentation for my Silent Case Project, you're guessing that my sleepless night of browsing have not yielded the desired result.
I've check out many options such as water cooling, moving the PC to the closet, returning to the forest where a PC is pretty far from your everyday quest for survival. None of them suits me.
The objective of my project is to build a case that meets the following criteria
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- A silent as possible
- Accessible
- Provides sufficient ventilation to maintain all the components running within thermal specs
- Be light enough to be easily transportable (Let's not forget the Lan parties
;-)
To attain those goals I have to
:- Read all I can about noise, sound, aerodynamics, PC specs
- Find suitable materials : A case is not just a protection against unwanted fingers and dust ; it must provide EMI shielding, proper grounding, resist to impacts, and fit into my conception of the king of object you want in your bedroom (If you were thinking about plywood and a box of rusted leftover nails, forget it)
- Find the tools or the companies or individuals with the means to work the materials I choose to build the casing
For the sound isolation I was thinking about some kind of foam. Mineral lint would be affective but that takes too much space and it's not the kind of thing I want beside my bed. Form the casing itself, metal is almost inevitable if you want EMI shielding and grounding. And as for you who wonder why I have not mentioned water cooling yet, the greatest source of noise is not my CPU cooler and your just moving the problem out of the case (Nice ; you have water heating up but unless your reservoir is like a bathtub or something you will have to transfer the heat for the water to the air).
That about as far as I am. If you have any idea that might help me, please fell free to send me some bits forming ASCII characters at Prozzaks@operamail.com
To finish up, here is a list of thing that might help people wanting to achieve similar goals
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- http://www.formfactors.org/ You should be able to find all the documents regarding the ATX form factor and thermal design guides. A must if you want to build a quiet PC.
- http://developer.intel.com/ Intel has contributed a great deal to the ATX definition ; here you will find many relevant documents including thermal design guides for all Intel processors.
- Etract from my favorite's :
Hardware\cases PC CASE
Fong Kai
PowerOn
Enlight Corporation
dir.yahoo Enclosures Manufacturers
procase
YY Computer
Psi
IN WIN
Amtrade
American Suntek
Addtronics
A-Top Technology, Inc
Nikao
Palo Alto Products
Antec
Lian-Li
amaquest
Koolance
Quietpc
PC Power & Cooling
Hardware\Heat Sinks ALPHA
Cooler Master
AVC
ekl
GlobalWIN
globefan
RDJD
Foxconn
Spring Spread
Sanyo Denki
TITAN
TaiSol
ChipCoolers
Orb a
ElanVital
Hardware\Info\Form Factor Platform Development Support
SSI
WTX
Hardware\Info\Standards Fibre Channel Industry Association
PCI SIG
RAB
serialata
SPEC
Hardware\Info\Storage RAID.edu
Hardware\Info\Cours CS 252 - Graduate Computer Architecture
Hardware\Info The PC Guide!
Hardware Bible
FullOn3D
developer.intel.com
HwB The Hardware Book
United Overclockers
Ars Technica
Tech-Junkie
HardwarePub
Webopedia
Illustrated Guide to the PC Hardware
SysOpt
2CPU
Ace's Hardware
Technical Support - RaidHelp v1.0 - Free RAID Technology Guide
Computer Architecture
OPENCORES.ORG
TechFest
MidWest Micro Support
Hardware\Resalers GeekTek!
Micro-Bytes
ALCO
ABC Micro
2CoolTek
Plycon Computers
TCWO
ABC Micro - Lprix
Case Outlet
The Chip Merchant, Inc
Cimsys
OrdiGros
ALIENWARE
SHENTECH
FireStorm
Hyper Microsystems
TWEAKBOX
Hardware\Reviews Tom's Hardware Guide
Sharky Extreme
StorageReview
HardOCP
AnandTech
SystemLogic
x-bit labs
Active-Hardware
FiringSquad
SocketA
Overclockers Australia
HEXUS
dansdata
SysReview
Hardware\Manufacturers AMD
ASUS
Belkin
MassMultiples
Promise
StarTech
VIA Technologies, Inc
ABIT Computer Corp
Comcase
Micron Semiconductor
ECS
Hardware Freeboxen
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Re:I Want one???
Apart from that obvious point, where can I get some of those parts down under???
Well, the site being Slashdotted, I've only managed to get a very small section of the jpg. However, the top corner of the case looks like the black version of the Yeong Yang YY-0221 case I'm using right now. You should be able to find someone to who imports it.
If it is the same case, it's not suprising to me that they replaced the power supply. The PS that came with mine is loud. I intend to replace it as soon as I have the money.
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Yeong Yang casesAlmost forgot... Yeong Yang makes some of the l337est cases I've ever seen. The FlexATX (wow!) and Mini NLX form-factor cases are pretty slick (if you can find a decent mainboard that size), but nothing beats the "borg cube" case!
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Ellison: How are you gentlemen !! All your database are belong to us -
Yeong Yang casesAlmost forgot... Yeong Yang makes some of the l337est cases I've ever seen. The FlexATX (wow!) and Mini NLX form-factor cases are pretty slick (if you can find a decent mainboard that size), but nothing beats the "borg cube" case!
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Yeong Yang casesAlmost forgot... Yeong Yang makes some of the l337est cases I've ever seen. The FlexATX (wow!) and Mini NLX form-factor cases are pretty slick (if you can find a decent mainboard that size), but nothing beats the "borg cube" case!
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Re:So where *is* the hardware?
For a set-top sized box, I would use the NLX form factor. This is an industry standard by the same people responsible for ATX, but it's better. All desktops should be NLX because ATX REALLY SUCKS for anything but towers. The only (very unfortunate) drawback is that NLX seems to be harder to find despite being superior to micro/mini ATX for compact systems.
NLS motherboards are about 20 by 25-30 cm (8 by 10 or 11 inches). They have no slots and an edge connector on one side that plugs into the slot of an acocmpanying riser card. PCI cards plug in horizontally--parallel to the motherboard.
Many NLX cases (and industrial racks) allow the motherboard to be removed by loosening 2 thumbscrews. To add DIMMs, you can pull out the motherboard out COMPLETELY without removing ANY cards or cables--sometimes without even opening the case! Yeong-Yang makes a pretty little VCR-sized NLX case. NLX desktop cases are compact, quiet and easy to maintain (No, I don't sell them. I just think they are neat.)
As for the NLX motherboards, they usually come with matching riser cards. Asus, Gigabyte or Intel should have them, although they are not as common as ATX and may cost a bit more. The rest is just normal commodity hardware (TV tuner/capture, DVD player, huge hard drive etc.).
I have been thinking of building such a system for a year or two now. Maybe someone else will try now... -
Re:Style over substance?"Quarter of an hour?" I can recompile 2.2.* and rebuild my object files while reheating my coffee. I guess that makes me a technology "have?"
:-)With my current primary PC, I settled for a compromise between looks and functionality and got an Antec SOHO server case. It has two 80mm fan mounts at the anterior, two 80mm fan mounts at the posterior, a detachable, locking side panel, and a neat sliding "drive rail" system for the 5.25" bays. It's also very roomy. At $80 before shipping, it wasn't cheap, but it was definitely worth it.
While I know it's irrational, I just love cool looking case. My next PC will likely live in a Yeong Yang YY-8201 (miniNLX form factor) if I can find a decent mainboard for it.
All generalizations are false.
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New Demotivators
In case anyone's wondering why no lithographs for the new Demotivators, I mailed them last week to ask. Apparently, something like 50% of the last batch accounted for 90% of their sales, so they're seeing what's popular amongst the new ones before producing the big lithographs.
On a totally unrelated note, check out this for a weird case. Not so much an Apple as a Bean.
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The Best Case in the World
Is the Yeoung Yang Cube Server in the balck color, just got mine and it is now known as the Borg. Big, beautiful, black, lots of room, and it makes an excellent foot rest. More pictures at www.caseoutlet.com
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Black cube (ish)http://www.yeongyang.com/yy0110.html
It's a bit expensive for the build quality, but it's almost cubic, has 13 drive bays (6x5.25, 7x3.5), and is sitting on my desk, waiting to be filled and named.
monolith anyone?
-StE ishamael@erroneous.demon.co.uk