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This is just a red herring to hide their real plan: export the communist godless religion of political correctness to the west and watch them implode.

Well, I've run into the first and the last, although it was a horseshoe magnet rather than a fridge magnet. Never had anyone staple a floppy, but one woman was complaining because her "hard drive" (the 3.5" floppy) wouldn't go in the drive any more. She had noticed that the aluminum slide could pull back to expose the media, so to make sure no dust got in it she taped it shut.

She was the assistant to one of the executives, and kept all the important correspondence she generated on the floppy because she'd been told by some random person at her church that if she copied it to the network it could "get lost". We never could convince her otherwise (bunch of godless heathens that we were), so we surreptitiously copied the floppy and then made sure that the drive failed.

What about the bones? Just because they are there does not mean we have accurately determined how old they are. Some proponents of science place more faith in its determinations than your most devout follower of religion. Science is supposed to be about discovery. Testing of the world around us to learn more about it. Unfortunately it was hijacked long ago by self absorbed, godless fools with an agenda and any hope of objective discovery went by the boards when that happened.

Sounds like you don't know much about socialism. Common and co-operative ownership of the means of production hardly equates to the elite knowing what is best for you.

Their test of socialism is based solely on "is money which is taken from my pockets ending in pockets of the richer then me or in pockets of the poorer then me". If the rich are getting that money, it is all normal and natural. If the poorer are getting it, that is godless socialism! There has to be a social pyramid and consistent one way (up) flows of work and money (yeah I know, you work for money, but you also spend it, too, and it all ends up on the top).

Think about it like natural selection- those with foresight and enough sense to listen to the experts can really put themselves in a good position for the future. This is the perfect time to hedge your bets and invest in various technologies and industries which will become much more valuable in the future. Meanwhile, the deniers will continue based on the belief that it won't happen, and when it does happen they're the ones who will get the pointy end of the stick.

Sorry.. I think that's optimistic..
I can't help but think about what happened to those women who, 500 years ago, were experts in herbology, had sense enough to study medicine, and were known to be better informed than their fellow villagers.
They were either asked to go for a swim, or to join a bonfire as the guest of honour.. see also Malleus Maleficarum .

Who knows, some 21st century Tomás de Torquemada might want to re-print that disgusting book.. but now with "Those Evil Godless Marxist Hippy Scientists That Deny Us Our Economic Freedom" as the protagonists..

You seem to be forgetting something fairly important. Our modern notions of ordered liberty, the rule of law (and not of men) equality before the law, even freedom of religion are all the product of the religious men (sorry ladies, that happened later) of the time. It gave the world wonders. Meanwhile every social system constructed by the godless has quickly degenerated into a Hell on Earth. Not saying that it must be so, but to ignore history doesn't sound very 'reality based' to me. At a minimum it should at least cause a bit of pause, some humility and some deep thoughts as to why that is true.

A person who honestly believes truth does not exist is criminally insane and should be restrained for life. Pushing an innocent old person in front of a bus or setting fire to house while the residents sleep is wrong , that will always be true. The reason that people like the idea that truth does not exist it they think it frees them from moral obligation.

No, those points are not always true, and the term "true" is better defined before you use it this way. What if the old innocent person has a terminal and painful disease, and a loving friend or relative has this as the only way to end the suffering that has rendered their life useless misery? What if the residents of the house have a disease so dangerous that there can be no risk of allowing it to escape the building? There's far more nuance here, but what we can do is use reason to establish a common morality that most people would agree upon, even if there's no magical force in the universe to give it legitimacy.

I recall a thought experiment in which the reader has to design the society in which they'll live, but they can't know which position in society they themselves will occupy, leading most people to devise a society in which life at all levels is as fair as it can be. I'd bet these societies, given some thought, would be far superior to anything mandated by the Bible. Funny you should mention slavery, as slavery would probably not figure highly in them. The reason why some people deny the existence of universal truth is because they lack the arrogance to make such unfounded assertions - particularly when universal truth is a fancy way of saying "here's how I think things should work".

If you believe that socialism is a monolithic entity that strives for godless communism, well, you've just not read your Bible or studied the lives of the early Christians. The sharing of resources, which was not always voluntary, was a common feature of the groups. Acts 4:32?

Illuminati? BAH.

All right-thinking people, like George C Scott, know that the source of all ills of the world is The Phone Company.


I blame this squarely on the lack of faith in God in these godless times.
Used to be, when random bad shit befell you, say, if Aunt Macey[1] was hit by a bus, we'd just blame god. Errr, chalk it up to His inscrutable plan. Uhm, blame the devil.

These days, the Bilderbergers^W Illuminati serve as a secular devil that some of the weak-minded blame for all the random bad shit that happens in the world.

My point being that sometimes stuff just seemingly randomly happens. Sometimes it's bad. People like to view the universe as rational and purposeful, so they look for a cause to random bad shit.


[1] we all know that she should have checked both ways more carefully before crossing the street. And maybe not drank as much before Noon.

A person who honestly believes truth does not exist is criminally insane and should be restrained for life. Pushing an innocent old person in front of a bus or setting fire to house while the residents sleep is wrong , that will always be true. The reason that people like the idea that truth does not exist it they think it frees them from moral obligation. Patriotism is not bigotry , godless communism , the end goal of socialism is. To make war on a country because you don't like the way they live is bigotry , America is the only reason there is a free world. If you think patriotism is bigotry I suggest you move because when it comes time to choose you have to be willing to die for your beliefs and make sure your enemy dies for his. People with the attitude you have exposed are cowards who prefer slavery to death.

But, in America "You have the right to remain stupid!"

We got rights and stuff. Better to exercise my right to stupid than a godless heathen like them scientific types.

It has been secular, but if people demand more religion in government, it can happen, over time. Heck, all you really need is a few more SCOTUS justices to rubber-stamp anything the religious right wants, even if that means overturning prior rulings, plus a President that's willing to enforce religious rulings. It could happen sooner than you think.

Secession didn't work well the first time for several reasons: 1) slavery was a major issue in the war, and since it was so obviously morally wrong, it brought a lot of support on the northern side. We probably don't have any issues like that right now which would make lots of people want to take up arms to keep another part of the country from leaving. 2) It hadn't been that long since the War of 1812; there was probably still fear than Britain would try to retake the "colonies" if they were too weak, so unity was seen as necessary by many. There's no one that's going to invade and take over part of the US today, even if it did secede. 3) the North had a very strong industrial economy, so it could afford to finance the war effort. Today, our economy is not doing well, and is based on nothing really; we no longer have a strong manufacturing economy and the future looks grim. A civil war would cause immediate economic collapse, much worse than just letting the breakaway republics go. Finally, just how many people do you know who'd sign up to carry a rifle and fight against other Americans (perhaps in a separate region) so they can't secede? Most conservatives are constantly making comments about wishing California would fall into the ocean or otherwise leave the country. I really don't think there'd be a lot of support for using force to keep this place together if regions started trying to break away. Instead, a lot of people would be happy that they wouldn't have to share a country with "those dumb bible-thumping rednecks in Alabama or Kentucky" or "those godless atheists and homosexuals in California".

Silence, pagen windows user! Go back to your multi-core, hyper-threaded godless monstrosities and do not speak ill of the closeness of the OS to the hardware at a cheap price!

Off topic but:
1) Most conceptions end in failure. It is around 80% in nature (from high school biology) - so "god" decided the result. When you use advanced science to prevent nature's course you are going against "god's intent" and anybody who thinks "god" is working by using godless science is beneath intelligent discussion. Often ironically, the god's will argument is used on the pro-life position at the same time.

2) Severity of deformations is impossible to quantify since there will be no agreed upon position. This is a nation where a brain dead woman can't be allowed to die without a national political fight - oddly enough, the whole debate was framed wrong: she was already dead. Point is the fight will never end and comes down to beliefs since there is no 100% accepted authority (science only makes it a little easier.)

3) Consciousness does not exist in babies; chimps are more conscious and smarter - we do experimentation on them. Point is - I use cognitive development as a threshold which is consistent with our other existing positions. You use a baseless religious position you were indoctrinated into thinking a few human cells (with 46 chromosomes) are human. BIG BIG difference between human cells and a human. I find that a bit funny in itself since the majority of cells within a human are NOT human cells! (see gut symbiosis.) Back on point:

WHERE WE DRAW THE LINE greatly differs and no position has a 100% accepted authority. It comes down FAITH or an educated guess. It is NOT CONSTITUTIONAL to establish religious laws; when you define life based on FAITH you are imposing a religious belief onto others.
QED.
Yes, it is that simple to win the debate; you can't impose your religious belief (when is it a person) as law onto others.

It's an American missile. ...

So there you have it. 1700 miles per second. That'll put the fear of God into those godless commies.

But second is also used in the Socialist International (SI) System. To be truly American you would have to replace it with something more patriotic.

m is metre moron

It's an American missile. Why would they be talking in weird foreign measurements? I mean, "metre"?! R before E? Who spells like that? Sounds like some kind of cheese-eatin' surrender-monkey socialist kind of measurement. Certainly not the kind of measurement that freedom lovin' people from the Good ol' USA would use.

So there you have it. 1700 miles per second. That'll put the fear of God into those godless commies.

(I was going to mark my original post as sarcasm but I thought, "Nah. People will get it.")

He gives a wonderful explanation of the Nocebo effect in this video of Nerdstock: 9 Lessons and Carols for Godless People, televised on BBC4, December 2009. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1Q3jZw4FGs

Edward George Ruddy died today! Edward George Ruddy was the Chairman of the Board of the Union Broadcasting Systems, and he died at eleven o'clock this morning of a heart condition, and woe is us! We're in a lot of trouble!

So. A rich little man with white hair died. What has that got to do with the price of rice, right? And *why* is that woe to us? Because you people, and sixty-two million other Americans, are listening to me right now. Because less than three percent of you people read books! Because less than fifteen percent of you read newspapers! Because the only truth you know is what you get over this tube. Right now, there is a whole, an entire generation that never knew anything that didn't come out of this tube! This tube is the Gospel, the ultimate revelation. This tube can make or break presidents, popes, prime ministers... This tube is the most awesome God-damned force in the whole godless world, and woe is us if it ever falls in to the hands of the wrong people, and that's why woe is us that Edward George Ruddy died. Because this company is now in the hands of CCA - the Communication Corporation of America. There's a new Chairman of the Board, a man called Frank Hackett, sitting in Mr. Ruddy's office on the twentieth floor. And when the twelfth largest company in the world controls the most awesome God-damned propoganda force in the whole godless world, who knows what shit will be peddled for truth on this network?

So, you listen to me. Listen to me: Television is not the truth! Television is a God-damned amusement park! Television is a circus, a carnival, a traveling troupe of acrobats, storytellers, dancers, singers, jugglers, side-show freaks, lion tamers, and football players. We're in the boredom-killing business! So if you want the truth... Go to God! Go to your gurus! Go to yourselves! Because that's the only place you're ever going to find any real truth.

But, man, you're never going to get any truth from us. We'll tell you anything you want to hear; we lie like hell. We'll tell you that, uh, Kojak always gets the killer, or that nobody ever gets cancer at Archie Bunker's house, and no matter how much trouble the hero is in, don't worry, just look at your watch; at the end of the hour he's going to win. We'll tell you any shit you want to hear. We deal in *illusions*, man! None of it is true! But you people sit there, day after day, night after night, all ages, colors, creeds... We're all you know. You're beginning to believe the illusions we're spinning here. You're beginning to think that the tube is reality, and that your own lives are unreal. You do whatever the tube tells you! You dress like the tube, you eat like the tube, you raise your children like the tube, you even *think* like the tube! This is mass madness, you maniacs! In God's name, you people are the real thing! *WE* are the illusion! So turn off your television sets. Turn them off now. Turn them off right now. Turn them off and leave them off! Turn them off right in the middle of the sentence I'm speaking to you now! TURN THEM OFF...

Nope, not me...went to a christian school for a year, somehow the gaybashing and hatefull didnt quite fit the bill...

Which...according to the logic of my fellow atheist means its appropriate to denounce them as false christian unless they turn into the Landover Baptists.

Yep, religion is damaging and dangerous because of blind dogmas that ....lets challenge them into making a choice between becoming godless or just bastards...

If anything....I hate ATHEIST! IM A SELF LOATHING ATHEIST...."HAY! THUNDERF00T HERE LIKE MY VIDEO"..."NOW YOUR AN RATIONALIST!"

Oh and your're a cunt and blinded by bromides and social hysteria....just...some feedback for you there.

Yes, tax is an unfortunate reality of ownership of many things. One of the ways governments raise money is to tax the ownership of vehicles and property. If the government didn't tax those things then they would tax something else in stead, like petrol or bibles or babies or baby bibles. Governments do this ostensibly to pay for bombs, bomb delivery devices and uniformed marchers. If you want to have the benefit of being able to bomb who you want and have your marching people march in foreign places then you will probably need to have taxes, bombs don't build themselves you know! Uniformed marchers tend to make more uniformed marchers but they take a while to bake and some-one else has to make the uniform, usually some stinky felon who has be remanded in a lovely quiet private residence/workplace that has free food, bed and washing facilities.

Children, on the other hand, are registered so that Santa can keep track of them on his naughty/nice machine and the registry of marriages are an extension of Santa's policy of tracking children's parents to make sure they don't move to some sinful godless place like Canada, where the gays can get married, or someplace as awful as Europe, 'cause we all know its full of sinners there, Santa doesn't even stop in most of those countries.

And *why* is that woe to us? Because you people, and sixty-two million other Americans, are listening to me right now. Because less than three percent of you people read books! Because less than fifteen percent of you read newspapers! Because the only truth you know is what you get over this tube. Right now, there is a whole, an entire generation that never knew anything that didn't come out of this tube! This tube is the Gospel, the ultimate revelation. This tube can make or break presidents, popes, prime ministers... This tube is the most awesome God-damned force in the whole godless world, and woe is us if it ever falls in to the hands of the wrong people, and that's why woe is us that Edward George Ruddy died. Because this company is now in the hands of CCA - the Communication Corporation of America. There's a new Chairman of the Board, a man called Frank Hackett, sitting in Mr. Ruddy's office on the twentieth floor. And when the twelfth largest company in the world controls the most awesome God-damned propoganda force in the whole godless world, who knows what shit will be peddled for truth on this network?

So, you listen to me. Listen to me: Television is not the truth! Television is a God-damned amusement park! Television is a circus, a carnival, a traveling troupe of acrobats, storytellers, dancers, singers, jugglers, side-show freaks, lion tamers, and football players. We're in the boredom-killing business! So if you want the truth... Go to God! Go to your gurus! Go to yourselves! Because that's the only place you're ever going to find any real truth.

But, man, you're never going to get any truth from us. We'll tell you anything you want to hear; we lie like hell. We'll tell you that, uh, Kojak always gets the killer, or that nobody ever gets cancer at Archie Bunker's house, and no matter how much trouble the hero is in, don't worry, just look at your watch; at the end of the hour he's going to win. We'll tell you any shit you want to hear. We deal in *illusions*, man! None of it is true! But you people sit there, day after day, night after night, all ages, colors, creeds... We're all you know. You're beginning to believe the illusions we're spinning here. You're beginning to think that the tube is reality, and that your own lives are unreal. You do whatever the tube tells you! You dress like the tube, you eat like the tube, you raise your children like the tube, you even *think* like the tube! This is mass madness, you maniacs! In God's name, you people are the real thing! *WE* are the illusion! So turn off your television sets. Turn them off now. Turn them off right now. Turn them off and leave them off! Turn them off right in the middle of the sentence I'm speaking to you now! TURN THEM OFF...